Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 24th July 2012:
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06:14:00  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 799:497a65c178ec: Codechange: add a tanker graphics file XandythenorthX @
06:14:00  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 800:b971cef3fe4a: Codechange: some probably foolish refactoring of how capacities ar... XandythenorthX @
06:16:55  <Brot6> FISH - fish_buy_menu_old.png XandythenorthX @
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06:26:30  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 801:1dd38e923bb7: Codechange: add code support for tankers XandythenorthX @
06:26:30  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 802:542b484f76aa: Codechange: remove a print statement XandythenorthX @
06:26:30  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 803:73cec28d9ccf: Fix: add a missing graphics template to repo XandythenorthX @
06:31:19  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 804:ed6c0922fc46: Codechange: remove non-tanker graphics support from tanker templat... XandythenorthX @
06:35:03  <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4084: depot blender challenges XAlberthX @
06:40:22  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 805:4d40221fa595: Codechange: add a new graphics template for gcvs XandythenorthX @
06:40:22  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 806:05398c28bf3a: Cleanup: remove unneeded graphics template XandythenorthX @
06:41:34  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 807:a984ac3fa4b1: Codechange: add to .hgignore XandythenorthX @
06:52:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #4091 (New): nmlc writes '' in working directory XAlberthX @
06:53:16  <Alberth> that might be a more permanent solution :)
06:56:35  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 808:4727c2fd3e84: Codechange: remove tanker graphics support from gcv graphics templ... XandythenorthX @
06:56:35  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 809:62676b9f74fa: Codechange: enforce that capacity_cargo_holds and capacity_tanks a... XandythenorthX @
07:43:08  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 810:23c8374958e7: Codechange: sanitise how tank capacity is calculated XandythenorthX @
07:45:03  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 811:8275395c9ae8: Codechange: remove unneeded subtype strings XandythenorthX @
07:50:23  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 812:9dd0dc1c1209: Cleanup: remove unneeded template for autorefitting XandythenorthX @
07:59:42  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 813:c045a1c4dc19: Codechange: rename a buy menu string XandythenorthX @
08:09:13  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 814:0d067b8f9380: Change: set default cargo correctly for 'tanker' XandythenorthX @
08:20:34  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 733:1c72c6f92e89: Feature: Use sprites for cargo refitted passenger MUs XXotic750X @
08:23:08  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 734:15561f980083: Feature: Use sprites for early wagons XXotic750X @
08:50:58  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4092 (New): Wrong comment in tropic road file XAlberthX @
08:51:51  <Brot6> FISH - buy_menu_test.png XandythenorthX @
08:53:11  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 32:9748a595f68e: Add: Roads XAlberthX @
08:54:17  <Brot6> FISH - buy_menu_test_2.png XandythenorthX @
08:55:10  <Terkhen> lots of commits lately :P
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09:11:29  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4092 (Closed): Wrong comment in tropic road file XAlberthX @
09:11:29  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 980:135f0b074676: Fix #4092: Wrong comment (Alberth) XplanetmakerX @
09:11:29  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4092 (Closed): Wrong comment in tropic road file XplanetmakerX @
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09:14:11  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #4091: nmlc writes '' in working directory XHirundoX @
09:14:21  <Hirundo> Alberth: ^^
09:16:37  <Alberth> thanks
09:17:32  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 815:cb1777b28655: Change: give the Nagasaki Tanker a name XandythenorthX @
09:17:54  <Hirundo> Problem is, I think, that you don't always have write access to the NML installation dir
09:18:18  <Alberth> how is that a problem?
09:18:44  <Alberth> it does not hold for me btw
09:18:45  <Hirundo> That would be the most obvious platform-independent place for such a file
09:19:24  <Alberth> you'll have to generate the file during install
09:19:39  <Hirundo> good point
09:19:58  <Alberth> but it baheves strangely iirc
09:20:02  <Alberth> *behaves
09:27:15  <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4088 (Closed): wrongly sloped rail and tunnel entrance XzephyrisX @
09:30:34  <planetmaker> Alberth, I gave you commit access to opengfx :-)
09:31:04  <planetmaker> and good morning everyone here :-)
09:31:12  <Hirundo> good morning
09:31:49  <Xotic750> g'morning
09:32:11  <Alberth> tbh, I have lost track which repos I am supposed to modify myself and which not
09:33:13  <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4084: depot blender challenges XzephyrisX @
09:39:39  <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4084: depot blender challenges XAlberthX @
09:44:02  <Hirundo> hmm python negative list indices are tricky
09:44:27  <Alberth> :)
09:44:35  <Hirundo> list = list[:-offset_from_end] fails in the 0-case
09:46:22  <Alberth> then it also fails for the other cases, doesn't it (offset_from_end == 1) means [:-2] to me
09:46:49  <Alberth> /[()]//
09:46:58  <Alberth> s/[()]//
09:46:59  <Brot6> Alberth meant: "/[)]//"
09:55:21  <Hirundo> list[:-num_to_remove_from_end]
10:00:31  <Alberth> fair enough :)
11:08:51  <planetmaker> Alberth, I think I found the solution how to build zbasebuild: creating a "main" repo which has zbase, opengfx and zbasebuild as its sub-repos
11:09:00  <planetmaker> then non of the relative paths need changing in zbasebuild
11:09:32  <Alberth> s/non/none/  :)
11:09:32  <Brot6> Alberth: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
11:09:38  <planetmaker> :-)
11:09:44  <planetmaker> silly brot ;-)
11:09:51  <Alberth> so a zbasebuilbbuild :p
11:09:56  <planetmaker> kinda, yeah
11:09:58  <Alberth> s/bb/db/
11:09:58  <Brot6> Alberth meant: "so a zbasebuildbuild :p"
11:10:50  <Alberth> sounds like an interesting approach )
11:11:00  <planetmaker> the make in the then new main repo just needs "make -C zbasebuild/Makefile" or similar
11:11:02  <Hirundo> higher order repositories? o_0
11:11:08  <planetmaker> kinda yeah, Hir
11:11:16  <planetmaker> *Hirundo,  :-)
11:13:33  <Alberth> planetmaker: can you adjust the path of the roadworks machine ?
11:13:48  <Alberth> it's too long :)
11:13:52  <planetmaker> hu?
11:14:21  <planetmaker> what's wrong with long path names?
11:15:04  <Alberth>
11:15:04  <planetmaker> (besides that it breaks multiple file archives for ancient tar versions)
11:15:12  <Alberth> oh, different paths :)
11:15:30  <Alberth> I mean the path traveled by the roller machine
11:16:22  <planetmaker> Alberth, that screenshot shows that the ground tile for the road works is no ground tile. Thus it glitches
11:16:45  <planetmaker> the fence should be lower
11:16:51  <Alberth> yeah, the idea is nice though
11:18:49  <planetmaker> Ok, so does anything else need changing than the ground sprite?
11:19:04  <planetmaker> (I'm not sure I understand your question or whether it was a joke :-) )
11:20:54  <Alberth> path of the yellow machine is somewhat too long, can it be adjusted?
11:21:34  <Alberth> if the ground sprite is altered, this problem may of course disappear
11:21:53  <planetmaker> path... file path? When it moves in the game?
11:22:00  <planetmaker> is that where my confusion comes from?
11:22:14  <Alberth> movement in the game
11:22:28  <planetmaker> :-) Ok. That's different. I thought file path :-D
11:23:02  <Alberth> yeah, you needed a big push to get off that track :)
11:23:02  <planetmaker> I don't think it can be changed as that's hard coded. You can only vary the relative placement to the tile
11:23:16  <planetmaker> aka change offsets
11:23:37  <Alberth> ok, "no" thus, I suspected that already
11:23:58  <planetmaker> yes. It's one of these "TTD did it this way" things which are not (yet?) configurable
11:24:29  <Alberth> I modified the offsets somewhat, but it won't stay inside the gates(?)
11:25:23  <Alberth> the gates also glitch with the stadium behind it, so they need modification anyway, I think
11:25:24  <planetmaker> it won't stay inside
11:25:43  <Alberth> I'll make an issue
11:25:44  <planetmaker> yes. A ground tile is a ground tile. And may have no height (extend beyond flat tile)
11:26:25  <planetmaker> which is for instance the whole issue with the none-Zephyris ground tiles. They're all non-flat with that grass
11:31:18  <planetmaker> none / non. I never know which and where :-)
11:33:40  <Alberth> none is a word, and non is a prefix afaik
11:34:12  <Alberth> gates appear to be fences which indeed seems a better word :)
11:35:47  <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4093 (New): roadworks glitches XAlberthX @
11:36:39  <Alberth> oh, I was doing road level crossings :)
11:43:59  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 33:4b22dbe5b0c3: Add: some road level crossings, roadworks XAlberthX @
11:45:44  <planetmaker> :-)
12:06:28  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 735:f9bfc9416637: Feature: Use sprites for early wagons and climates with... XXotic750X @
12:43:32  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 816:5f24ec55b40a: Change: add a bunch of large coastal tankers XandythenorthX @
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13:17:48  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 817:ab55d3b6327f: Fix: so, disabling the default road vehicles wasn't very desirable XandythenorthX @
14:53:33  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 34:876ef5b3070c: Add: Street lights, baseplate of non-drive-through RV stops. XAlberthX @
15:18:01  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1942:a3ce42602f47: Add: Use some mask sprites in the regression test... XHirundoX @
15:18:01  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1943:f9884be589c9: Codechange: Use an array of bytes instead of list... XHirundoX @
15:18:15  <Hirundo> Alberth: More goodies ^^
15:18:54  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1945:7fb7542bafe9: Codechange: Also use byte arrays when manipulatin... XHirundoX @
15:18:54  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1944:d67938c214c6: Codechange: Optimize transparency detection durin... XHirundoX @
15:18:54  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1946:eb50507e0154: Codechange: Don't even bother making a list of pi... XHirundoX @
15:18:56  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1947:59e955468fc9: Codechange: Optimize LZ77 compression a bit. XHirundoX @
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15:21:21  <Alberth> Hirundo: nice !
15:21:33  <Hirundo> Could you do a bit of profiling for me?
15:22:16  <Alberth> 'time' before and after, or more precise?
15:22:16  <Hirundo> I'm interested in the difference between -c (crop, cache), -nc (crop, compressed, no cache) and -nuc (crop, uncompressed, no cache)
15:23:06  <Hirundo> Only -nc should be cup-of-coffee-compatible now
15:23:36  <Hirundo> Best approach is probably 'time make' with NML_FLAGS set in Makefile.local
15:23:58  <Alberth> I'll run some 'nmlc' commands manually
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16:37:34  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1948:f6b7600133fa: Fix #4086: Allow using constants > 255 as variabl... XHirundoX @
16:37:34  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #4086 (Closed): Use variable 7B for passing constants > 255 to 60+x varia... XHirundoX @
16:40:02  <Alberth> First -c test done :)
17:04:19  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 632:b1992e1f9f33: Lang: Fix typo Dutch XfoobarX @
17:10:59  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 633:5b960e75a3b9: Change: rename TRAXX F140 MS2 to NS Hispeed 186 XfoobarX @
17:58:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #4046: Reuse real sprites in container 2 GRFs XHirundoX @
19:16:08  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains renders - Revision 31:475c2fd7b797: Add: Template for monorail work XXotic750X @
19:16:08  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains renders - Revision 32:2f832cf4f577: Fix: Miscoloured uprights that should be in CC1 XXotic750X @
19:16:08  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains renders - Revision 33:8dae79054c2e: Update: Modernisation of monorail passenger mode... XXotic750X @
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20:15:44  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains renders - Revision 34:8f8eaf073663: Update: Render of livestock fix and modernised m... XXotic750X @
20:42:04  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 736:ba7229843cf6: Update: Fixed sprites for livestock and modernised mono... XXotic750X @
20:43:45  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 737:8923b1e667c3: Merge with default XXotic750X @
20:49:58  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 818:856ed4d99a01: Fix: dos palette conversion XandythenorthX @
20:49:58  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 819:ad36bb9b1813: Change: support for handling model life (Eddi) XandythenorthX @
20:59:12  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 820:b34070b2007b: Fix: model life was using vehicle life value from config XandythenorthX @
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