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00:21:40  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 692:ec606acfef4b: B737-500 No NFO Standard XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/ec606acfef4b
00:31:01  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r691 to r692 done (304 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r692
00:34:42  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 693:28fb9355e71f: Fixing Error on sprite 648 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/28fb9355e71f
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00:43:21  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r692 to r693 done (369 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r693
00:48:56  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 694:998b691a583a: More Update and fix on A319 nof XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/998b691a583a
00:56:06  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r693 to r694 done (239 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r694
00:59:48  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 695:61f24a4ac590: Corrected Unexpected data error on line 245 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/61f24a4ac590
01:05:56  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 696:0f4ba69dcf35: Added Blimps To NFO settings and corrected Skylift ... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/0f4ba69dcf35
01:07:33  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r694 to r695 done (238 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r695
01:09:59  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r695 to r696 done (242 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r696
01:14:49  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 697:2a49fb9bb783: Playing around with skylift name deinfe error XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/2a49fb9bb783
01:19:33  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 698:edbb87a030e1: Playing around with skylift name define error part ... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/edbb87a030e1
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01:23:00  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r696 to r697 done (242 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r697
01:28:11  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r697 to r698 done (242 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r698
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07:16:55  <planetmaker> Ammler: I didn't add relative paths in the form of opengfx = ../opengfx due to the fact, as you said, it doesn't generally allow cloning
07:18:14  <Ammler> did you test that?
07:19:07  <Ammler> I just quoted something
07:19:23  <planetmaker> No, but to me it feels wrong to create 3 parallel dirs when I just ask to clone one repo
07:21:21  <Ammler> he, that is what your config looks like
07:21:56  <Ammler> you need to clone every repo seperate
07:28:07  <planetmaker> Hu?
07:28:22  <planetmaker> if you clone zbuild, it will clone zbuild and the 3 sub repos
07:28:25  <Ammler> I am not able to clone zbuild
07:28:35  <Ammler> (via http)
07:28:49  <planetmaker> worked for me when I setup the stuff iirc
07:29:17  <Ammler> which is obvious, as you use absolute paths
07:29:52  <planetmaker> what we might try is in the [subpath] section like opengfx = ../opengfx
07:30:24  <planetmaker> how do you try to clone it ammler?
07:31:33  <Ammler> hg clone https://rhodecode.openttdcoop.org/zbuild
07:31:48  <planetmaker> hm
07:32:27  <Ammler> I would like to know, why relative paths shouldn't work
07:32:35  <Ammler> for me it looks like you didn't even try it
07:33:43  <planetmaker> yes. when I clone zbuild, I don't want it to modify my checkout of opengfx. That's right, too
07:33:53  <planetmaker> thus the opengfx is a sub-repo in a sub-path of zbuild
07:34:12  <planetmaker> And it's wrong to create three parallel dirs when I ask to clone into a specific dir
07:34:33  <planetmaker> read also the recommended setup for sub repos on selenic's website. zbuild follows that
07:35:07  <Ammler> well, I should not care, it is your project, I just can say, you are wrong :-)
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07:35:45  <Ammler> and it does not work
07:35:45  <planetmaker> good. then I'm wrong in your eyes. But I didn't find proof that I'm wrong nor see how or why tbh
07:36:15  <planetmaker> it worked when I setup the stuff
07:36:18  <Ammler> thry to clone the repo via the url above
07:36:51  <Ammler> it will not fail because of http, it fails because ot doesn't find the subrepo
07:37:49  <planetmaker> that's what the [subpaths] section is meant for
07:37:50  <Ammler> I also don't understand what you mean with creating dirs
07:38:11  <Ammler> with the subrepo test we did, it worked without
07:38:40  <Ammler> Well, I thought you knew about that test
07:39:30  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/subtest
07:40:36  <Ammler> planetmaker: the question is why do you prefer to configure special rules before trying the easy way
07:44:49  <planetmaker> like that, Ammler? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1626/
07:47:19  <planetmaker> hm... aber maybe like the last commit
07:47:35  <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 35:f767a09641fd: Change: Add relative sub paths XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/f767a09641fd
07:47:49  <planetmaker> and now cloning works again
07:49:00  <planetmaker> better, Ammler?
07:52:07  <Ammler> well, that as adding another special case
07:52:46  <planetmaker> what do you want? the first section changed to ../XX ?
07:53:10  <planetmaker> As said: I don't like that. As it creates on the side cloning stuff outside the designated dir
07:53:56  <planetmaker> "Relative paths of the form "foo = ../foo" will not generally allow clones to be cloned "
07:54:08  <Ammler> now it clones another opengfx
07:54:09  <planetmaker> from http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Subrepository#Use_a_thin_shell_repository_to_manage_your_subrepositories
07:54:12  <Webster> Title: Subrepository - Mercurial (at mercurial.selenic.com)
07:54:13  <Ammler> instead cloning my already existing opengfx
07:54:24  <planetmaker> I don't need to try it to then know it's a bad idea in cases which maybe my single test would not cover
07:54:31  <Ammler> it might work, but it is not perfect :-)
07:54:33  <planetmaker> yes, it does that, I know
07:54:51  <planetmaker> and as I just quoted: your "solution" is explicitly discouraged by hg devs
07:55:25  <planetmaker> thus would be anything than perfect
07:55:25  <planetmaker> yes, you get a new clone of each subrepo here and now
07:55:25  <planetmaker> that's wanted
07:56:32  <Ammler> ok, but at least you don't need to provide the ssh paths anymore
08:01:30  <Ammler> well, I know, you are always happy, if someone else says it is bad, I would prefer an explaination :-P
08:02:25  <Ammler> a new clone is fine, the issue is just that it clones from remote isntead relative
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08:06:42  <Ammler> anyway, cloning via rhodecode works
08:07:02  <Ammler> so we could at least use it for anonymous chckouts
08:08:18  <Ammler> I just need to learn about celery and rabbitmq
08:09:02  <planetmaker> Ammler: after all it's still one repository. Thus it makes sense to get them from one source :-)
08:09:20  <planetmaker> your local clones might well miss the required revisions. Thus getting it from the same server makes sure you have those
08:09:42  <planetmaker> it's how it *must* work as vcs to ensure that you get a complete checkout of the repo with full integrity
08:16:05  <planetmaker> Ammler: and the explicit server path configuration as I have it in .hgsub is also the recommended way to setup it on servers like ours
08:16:45  <planetmaker> though... maybe we could remove it and symlink it server-side
08:16:52  <planetmaker> symlink repos
08:17:47  <Ammler> not needed anymore as you added the new rules
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09:08:56  <Brot6> zbuild: update from r34 to r35 done (1169 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/r35
09:10:03  <planetmaker> hm, one hour build time :-O
09:24:25  <Ammler> half an hour per run...
09:26:44  <Ammler> does grf2html still make sense?
09:31:12  <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 36:4f25a783f4d4: Change: add files list for publisher XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/4f25a783f4d4
09:42:15  <planetmaker> in principle it still makes sense. You mean it doesn't show the 32bpp?
10:20:46  <planetmaker> hm, Ammler, can we restore the dutchstationset repo? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchstations/repository
10:30:17  <Ammler> hmm, svn down
10:30:25  <Ammler> I have once copied svn to our server
10:30:31  <Ammler> so it should still be available
10:30:42  <Ammler> but maybe there is also a hg convert
10:31:12  <Ammler> hmm
10:33:51  <Ammler> no hg convert
10:34:11  <Ammler> I don't restore svn, but I might be able to convert the svn repo
10:35:16  <Ammler> -rw-r--r-- 1 svn svn 190749282 Aug 16  2010 ottdc.svn.dump
10:41:38  <Ammler> it looks like we (I) have already setup svnserver, just no clue anymore how to start it
10:52:20  <Brot6> zBuild - Bug #4140 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4140
10:52:21  <planetmaker> he
10:57:04  <Ammler> did you get a request to restore it?
11:00:36  <Ammler> zbuild never really worked, we just ignored the error yet
11:00:54  <Ammler> and I have no clue, why
11:06:27  <planetmaker> Ammler, there's a thread about dutchstations
11:06:42  <planetmaker> and foobar noted that the repo does not exist anymore. Which should not exist with projects hosted by us
11:07:01  <planetmaker> he assumes it's temporary glitch.
11:14:35  <Ammler> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/dutchstations
11:14:55  <Ammler> hmm, removing the branch
11:15:48  <planetmaker> uh, was?
11:17:34  <Ammler> refresh
11:18:16  <Ammler> svnserve -d -r repositories/main/
11:18:34  <planetmaker> uhm... why removing?
11:19:22  <Ammler> -X might be good
11:19:38  <Ammler> planetmaker: already done :-)
11:23:16  <Ammler> XeryusTC: we changed vcs of dutchstations to mercurial
11:24:07  <XeryusTC> ok
11:24:07  <Ammler> planetmaker: will you notify forums?
11:24:26  <Ammler> oh, XeryusTC is on :-)
11:24:54  <XeryusTC> yeah
11:25:02  <XeryusTC> but i´m not really developing grfs anymore
11:25:39  <Ammler> :-D
11:26:25  <Ammler> maybe add foobar as manager to the project
11:28:52  <planetmaker> he just linked to it. He has no intention of developing it
11:30:59  <Ammler> well, not as dev, as manager
11:32:33  <Ammler> (of course, with notify him, anyway all _I_ can do is done
11:33:25  <Ammler> hmm, if I am on it, is there another svn repo to convert?
11:33:45  <planetmaker> all of them? :D
11:33:59  <planetmaker> (dunno)
11:34:04  <Ammler> well, all of them are in the dump
11:36:25  <Ammler> hg@dev:~> svn list svn://localhost/grfdev
11:36:27  <Ammler> dutchstations/
11:36:27  <Ammler> earlyhouses/
11:36:29  <Ammler> frenchtowns/
11:36:30  <Ammler> logic/
11:36:32  <Ammler> lumbermill/
11:36:33  <Ammler> oldbridge/
11:36:35  <Ammler> opengfx/
11:36:37  <Ammler> swisstowns/
11:36:38  <Ammler> total_bridges/
11:36:39  <Ammler> hg@dev:~> svn list svn://localhost/tools
11:36:41  <Ammler> autopilot/
11:36:42  <Ammler> autostart/
11:36:44  <Ammler> dev_scripts/
11:36:49  <Ammler> ottdserver/
11:36:49  <Ammler> sh-scripts/
11:36:49  <Ammler> webconfig/
11:36:50  <Ammler> webconfigurator/
11:36:52  <Ammler> total_bridge?
11:37:35  <Ammler> tbrs is already converted
11:37:41  <planetmaker> any reason to not make available all?
11:37:54  <Ammler> you mean, setup svn again?
11:38:15  <Ammler> feel free to, I don't (already said :-P
11:39:01  <planetmaker> why not?
11:39:09  <Ammler> first I would like to get hg running
11:39:32  <Ammler> svn needs apache which needs another vm
11:39:40  <Ammler> and and and
11:40:06  <Ammler> the linking to redmine etc., just ask TB how well that works :-)
11:40:38  <Ammler> as said, I am not against it, I just don't do it myself
11:40:48  <planetmaker> ah, apache was the culprit. That might be a good reason not to
11:41:12  <Ammler> I would also rather setup git
11:41:29  <planetmaker> yes, would be nice
11:41:31  <Ammler> (which I also already have done, basically)
11:41:54  <Ammler> with rhodecode, this might be easy
13:08:06  <Ammler> planetmaker: will you fix building from source bundle or shall I disable it?
13:08:19  <Ammler> (zbuild)
13:08:36  <Ammler> make: *** No rule to make target `sprites/png/terrain/waterfeatures/waterfeatures.xcf2png', needed by `Makefile.dep'.  Stop.
13:09:04  <Ammler> I will at least update the spec so you get those errors in the log
13:09:15  <planetmaker> sounds like it should then fail for opengfx, too?
13:09:20  <planetmaker> but that works...
13:12:48  <Ammler> did you try to build from the zbuild source bundle yourself?
13:12:57  <planetmaker> no(t yet)
13:13:20  <planetmaker> though I suppose it might fail. Does the CF barf on it though? Didn't seem so far it does
13:17:10  <Ammler> the paths to the logfile are a bit complicated, I would prefer using a macro there
13:17:37  <Ammler> I don't like those "../../" paths
13:18:13  <Ammler> (same issue in opengfx)
13:30:49  <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 37:b9c7cede6243: Change: cleanup paths XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/b9c7cede6243
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14:49:52  <Brot6> zbuild: compile of r37 still failed (#4140) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/ERROR/r37
14:56:41  <Rubidium> what is causing this compile failure?
14:57:20  <Ammler> well, last error is from me
14:57:33  <Ammler> but it never was able to build from source bundle
14:57:41  <Rubidium> the log is complaining about a *-source.tar.xz, but it is in the push directory
14:58:24  <Rubidium> also, would it be useful to touch all the pngs in the opengfx directory to prevent rebuilding them?
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17:36:58  <Ammler> planetmaker: you didn't answer my question, shall I disable building from source or will you fix it?
17:37:21  <Ammler> (I have no clue, why it doesn't work)
17:37:44  <Ammler> hmm, I comment out the file for now
17:38:05  <Ammler> so it will still be built and you can see, if it works
17:38:13  <Ammler> but it does not cause as error
17:46:54  <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 38:a110d6e22b03: Change: disable check for successful install XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/a110d6e22b03
17:50:59  <Alberth> more zbuild devs!
17:55:51  <Rubidium> so many uncoded sprites! :(
18:01:16  <Alberth> right are you working on something?
18:03:47  <Rubidium> musa
18:04:48  <Alberth> ok :)
18:09:47  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4141 (New): revising 748 XRvP93X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4141
18:41:11  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 890:4cbe34844dee: Add: source graphics file for WSF Rhodendron ferry (will be rename... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/4cbe34844dee
18:41:11  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 891:6e2e1368ac27: Add: exports of various renders for sharing with other contributor... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6e2e1368ac27
18:42:56  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 892:cd7507ede8ea: Add: temp graphics for Rhodendron ferry so set won't fail to build XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/cd7507ede8ea
18:42:56  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 893:68d0e29212d7: Change: work in progress to add 'Rhodendron' WSF vehicle ferry (wi... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/68d0e29212d7
18:46:34  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4142 (New): CRJ 100/200 XRvP93X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4142
18:49:33  <Alberth> some houses do not make sense :(
18:58:40  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #4143 (New): Pixel comments from v453000 XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4143
19:00:27  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #4133 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4133#change-11313
19:13:00  <Brot6> zbuild: update from r35 to r38 done (1170 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/r38
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19:42:04  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 100:47c84f0edbbe: Add: Various temperate houses XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/47c84f0edbbe
19:42:04  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 101:bad6ea686096: Fix: sprites in towns/temperate/1456-1457 are in fact 1454 a... XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/bad6ea686096
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19:53:58  <Ammler> planetmaker: you see, the source bundle is quite small :-)
19:56:33  <Ammler> oh, and the error log should output the error why it fails
19:58:14  <Ammler> the error log cleanup is after the error, that is why the gimp output is still in
21:19:46  <Brot6> zbuild: update from r33 to r38 done (1170 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/nightlies/r38
21:22:01  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: execution expired
21:34:59  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r686 to r698 done (242 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/r698
21:41:37  <Brot6> fish: update from r888 to r893 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r893
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21:47:56  <Brot6> rust: compile of r23 still failed (#4102) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/rust/nightlies/ERROR/r23
21:48:33  <Brot6> make-nml: compile of r14 still failed (#4048) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/make-nml/nightlies/ERROR/r14
21:49:32  <Brot6> dach: compile of r54 still failed (#4104) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dach/nightlies/ERROR/r54
21:49:50  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: dutchtrains
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22:53:14  <Beardie> Hi does anyone know why i can't add error.log to the repostiry?
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23:29:40  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 699:d1beabd56ab7: adding skylift 150 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/d1beabd56ab7
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23:37:19  <Beardie> hey Frankr lol
23:38:09  <Frankr> hello Beardie
23:39:06  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 700:b383b3f4efc2: Corrected a Error For 7F English NFO XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/b383b3f4efc2
23:39:11  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r698 to r699 done (238 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r699
23:39:42  <Beardie> I closed MSN Frankr
23:39:45  <Beardie> O look my revision are coming up yeah
23:39:50  <Beardie> 238 Warnings! lol
23:41:15  <Frankr> Oh god
23:41:25  <Frankr> i don't remember leaving it in this mess
23:41:37  <Beardie> lol
23:41:56  <Beardie> syas there is a error on sprite 1
23:41:59  <Beardie> line 1?
23:42:01  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 701:cbef87e1ed14: Corrected ID ordering for IL86 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/cbef87e1ed14
23:42:57  <Frankr> well look at line 1
23:43:25  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r699 to r700 done (237 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r700
23:43:42  <Beardie> r700 error log should tell me
23:43:54  <Beardie> Warning on sprite 1 (level 1).
23:44:06  <Beardie> See Here Frank -> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r700/log/worldairlinersset-r700-build.err.log
23:45:47  <Frankr>     1 * 392	 08 07 "W" A5 00 01 is line 1 on mine
23:45:49  <Beardie> /!!Warning (219): There was no Action 14 specifying the palette.     1 * 393	 08 07 "W" A5 00 01
23:47:24  <Frankr> sorted now?
23:47:32  <Beardie> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action14
23:47:40  <Beardie> no i need to learn about action 14 lol
23:49:41  <Beardie> it comes before action 8 apprently which we have lol
23:50:43  <Frankr>     1 * 392	 08 07 "W" A5 00 01
23:50:44  <Frankr>  "World Airliners Set Alpha Release" 00
23:50:45  <Frankr>  "Coded: " 89 "Beardie, DJNekkid, Frank and yorick\n"
23:50:47  <Frankr>  98 "Graphics: " 89 "Beardie, Dimme, EXTSpotter, Faddypainter, Frank, Giles, Simozzz, Trainboy2004 and Vlad\n"
23:50:48  <Frankr>  94 "           Most graphics originally from PikkaBirds AV8 Set, please credit when using them. Full Details of all Contributers can be found in the README file\n"
23:50:50  <Frankr> 8E B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 20 20 B7 00
23:50:59  <Frankr> that is technically the whole of line 1
23:52:30  <Beardie> yeah i got it
23:52:34  <Beardie> i added a new line in
23:52:42  <Beardie> 1*392 14 etc
23:52:43  <Beardie> action 14
23:52:53  <Beardie> defines the palete is it dos or windows we used?
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23:53:58  <Frankr> i don't remember lol
23:54:14  <Beardie> well can't not but try now lol
23:54:18  <Frankr> you were the guy who set the pallete
23:54:39  <Beardie>     0 * 4	 9C 00 00 00     act(14) "C" "INFO"                  "B" "PALS" \w1 <palette>                  00              00     act(08) 07 "W" A5 00 01
23:54:56  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 702:28d53520f55c: changed header to add action 14 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/28d53520f55c
23:55:03  <Beardie> act(08) is action 8 which changes to "1 * 392	 08 07 "W" A5 00 01"
23:57:00  <Beardie> building now lol
23:58:17  <Beardie> invalid action byte :(
23:58:25  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 703:3e60a4341044: changed header to add action 14 part 2 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/3e60a4341044

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