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00:50:05 *** Nat_aS has quit IRC 00:53:22 *** Nat_aS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:17:33 *** Frankr has quit IRC 06:25:49 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:10:37 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:18:37 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 702:7ded501b7e74: Change: Small tracking table adjustments XoberhuemerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/7ded501b7e74 09:18:37 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 703:0d45e6cdc0da: Feature: Graphics for association tank car &... XoberhuemerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/0d45e6cdc0da 09:18:37 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 704:e00c0fcf6f87: Fix: Ignore new NML cache files XoberhuemerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e00c0fcf6f87 09:18:39 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 705:31c86b24a8c0: Change: Reduced width, uniform height templa... XoberhuemerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/31c86b24a8c0 09:21:01 <Brot6> cets: update from r701 to r705 done (196 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r705 09:46:08 <Alberth> svn still fails for me 09:52:53 <Alberth> hmm, https and http fail as well :p 11:18:40 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:31:23 *** Frankr has quit IRC 11:55:38 <Ammler> Alberth: svn? which http? 11:56:28 <Alberth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml 11:57:49 <Alberth> ssh://hg@hg.openttdcoop.org/nml 11:58:07 <Alberth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/ 11:58:07 <Ammler> what IP do you get? 11:58:32 <Alberth> % host hg.openttdcoop.org 11:58:32 <Alberth> hg.openttdcoop.org is an alias for dev.openttdcoop.org. 11:58:32 <Alberth> dev.openttdcoop.org has address 178.63.83.101 11:58:56 <Ammler> ok, you seem to have dns issue, can't influence that 11:59:14 <Alberth> ok, just wait thus 12:00:42 <Ammler> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1710/ 12:00:49 <Ammler> well, your dns is broken 12:00:57 <Ammler> you could also fix it ;-) 12:01:03 <Ammler> ttl is 600 12:01:14 <Ammler> and as you see on my paste all nameserver report right 12:03:05 <Alberth> but I don't query where you do 12:04:55 <Rubidium> Alberth: congratulations 12:04:59 <Ammler> how does that matter? 12:05:23 <Rubidium> you likely have an ISP that does override the TTL of DNS records 12:05:34 <Ammler> TTL is 600, so every nameserver on this world should refresh openttdcoop dns in 10mins 12:05:35 <Alberth> Rubidium: xs4all :) 12:06:00 <Rubidium> what does dig hg.openttdcoop.org tell you? 12:06:42 <Ammler> but my local host without host did just show the wrong ip too 12:06:57 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1711/ 12:07:31 <Rubidium> interesting... I'd've expected the 600 to be much bigger 12:07:50 <Rubidium> although, 192.168.178.1 is a local DNS server 12:09:26 <Rubidium> could you try dig hg.openttdcoop.org @194.109.104.104 ? 12:09:41 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:09:54 <Alberth> quak 12:10:00 <Rubidium> <moin> 12:10:06 <frosch123> hai :) 12:10:17 <Ammler> I assume that is your router? 12:10:26 <frosch123> no, it's myself 12:10:50 <Ammler> oh, and hello Fröschli 12:10:56 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1712/ 12:11:03 <frosch123> i have no highlight on that one :p 12:11:23 <Alberth> highlighting is overrated :) 12:11:41 <Rubidium> Alberth: so your ISP is caching badly from somewhere 12:12:03 <Rubidium> Ammler: when did you change the 178.x.y.z to 5.x.y.z? 12:13:07 <Ammler> 24h 12:13:11 <Rubidium> Alberth: looks like the 'perfect' time to use hosts (or complain to xs4all) 12:13:17 <Ammler> aroundish 12:13:36 <Ammler> more 30h 12:13:38 <Rubidium> hmm, not half a week ago? That sucks :( 12:14:02 <Ammler> I changed ttl around half a year ago 12:14:17 <Rubidium> TTL is pointless... 12:14:29 <Rubidium> ... if the ISP overrides/ignores it 12:14:44 <Ammler> well, I seriously would not like to support such isps 12:15:43 <Alberth> 10 minutes for a hostname to live is sort of ridiculous imho 12:16:01 <Ammler> there are dsndns with around 2mins 12:16:06 <Rubidium> Alberth: it's essential for migrations 12:16:13 <Ammler> dyndns* 12:16:31 <Rubidium> if ISPs limit this to days or weeks, it means that *all* customers of that ISP are caught up in migration issues 12:16:37 <Alberth> Ammler: yep, and people synchronizing time with the atomic clock every hour 12:16:40 <Ammler> schere.no-ip.org. 60 IN A 5.9.88.173 12:18:13 <Ammler> Alberth: how does your is support such dosmains? 12:18:21 <Ammler> p 12:18:53 <Alberth> Ammler: I don't know, I am not an ISP nor do I have interest in becoming one 12:20:46 <Ammler> well, it could also be the nameserver you get is broken 12:20:55 <Ammler> you just have bad luck 12:25:23 *** SmatZ- is now known as SmatZ 13:01:38 <Ammler> Alberth: in your case, you should change your nameserver, you could use 8.8.8.8 for example 13:01:54 <Ammler> (don't use your isp nameserver) 13:03:17 <Ammler> oh, and don't forget to report the issue 14:00:17 *** Nat_aS has quit IRC 14:00:21 *** NataS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:12:34 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:08:14 <Hirundo> I just noticed, I committed NML r2000 yesterday :-) 17:12:58 <Terkhen> congrats :) 17:17:14 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 706:77880f521b8e: actually remove ignored files XEddiX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/77880f521b8e 17:18:00 <Hirundo> ah well, perhaps it gets done at some point, perhaps it doesn't 17:18:47 <Hirundo> generally FOSS projects are never done 17:19:36 <Brot6> cets: update from r705 to r706 done (196 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r706 17:19:37 <Hirundo> NML won't ever get done as long as mr quak keeps commiting shiny new NewGRF features to openttd from time to time ;-) 17:20:50 <frosch123> well, you and yexo are also able to put work on yourself that way :p 17:20:55 <Brot6> cets: update from r701 to r706 done (196 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r706 17:22:00 <Hirundo> you have a highlight on quak? 17:23:09 <frosch123> yup :p 17:23:40 <Hirundo> hmm... so my attempt to avoid a needless highlight failed :p my bad 17:24:03 <frosch123> usually "quak" is directed towards me :p 17:32:08 <Ammler> you need to call him Fröschli, if you don't want to disturb him 17:38:22 <Hirundo> that is 'little frog' or something? 17:48:36 <frosch123> it's swiss 17:56:03 <Hirundo> frosch123: Why is there no equivalent of station var 49 that starts counting from the middle? 17:56:32 <frosch123> just use var 40 :p 17:56:50 <frosch123> there are dozen of variants 17:56:57 <frosch123> even more with secondary scopes :p 17:57:05 <Hirundo> Of course the information is mostly redundant 17:58:00 <Hirundo> But it makes the spec not completely orthogonal, it would be easier if it was 17:58:47 <Hirundo> Basically there are two starting points (top tile, middle) and three edge detection methods (end of station, different station spec, different direction) 17:59:49 <Hirundo> My idea was to make all those 40+x variables a single var in NML, with parameters to determine the actual nfo var to use 18:00:47 <Hirundo> Else there would be 7 nibbles * 5 nfo vars = 35 different NML vars to code and document 18:12:25 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:13:41 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 18:28:25 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4218 (New): Let Devzone also make .tar XTransportmanX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4218 19:01:53 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:07:27 <Hirundo> Ammler: I'm getting a 'Connection refused' error when trying to push/pull to/from openttdcoop server 19:09:40 <Hirundo> Connections over http work fine, but https://push.openttdcoop.org doesn't work 19:21:11 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2001:3d0fdb010616: Add: 'default'-callback for stations, so it's pos... XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/3d0fdb010616 19:21:11 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2002:5193017e7004: Add: Station variable 0x40 and its friends (platf... XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/5193017e7004 19:21:16 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4218: Let Devzone also make .tar XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4218#change-11527 19:21:31 <Hirundo> ^ Now it works again, strange 19:24:04 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4218: Let Devzone also make .tar XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4218#change-11527 19:24:28 <Ammler> Hirundo: what IP do you get for it? 19:26:02 <Hirundo> Now: 5.9.88.188 19:26:18 <Hirundo> I'm didn't check before, when it didn't work 19:28:26 <Ammler> so your push was via http? 19:29:47 <Hirundo> https 19:34:34 <Ammler> so you can't reproduce the error you reported 30mins ago? 19:42:53 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4218: Let Devzone also make .tar XTransportmanX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4218#change-11528 19:44:02 <Hirundo> Ammler: Nope, else I couldn't have committed NML r2001 and r2002 19:45:22 <Ammler> well, there is ssh 19:46:45 <Hirundo> hmm... no I tried a couple of times and I get a mixture of 'Connection refused', 'Connection timed out' and a normal (working) response :S 19:46:57 <Hirundo> no->now 19:54:15 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4218: Let Devzone also make .tar XTransportmanX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4218#change-11528 20:11:06 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:42:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2003:2024663a31f7: Add: Global constants for some station vars. 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XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/2024663a31f7 20:52:19 <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4218: Let Devzone also make .tar XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4218#change-11529 21:00:32 *** Frankr has quit IRC 21:19:24 *** Zuu has quit IRC 21:40:05 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:48:09 <Frankr> Guys is Devzone down? 21:55:20 <planetmaker> not for me 21:56:07 <Frankr> oh its fine now 22:38:55 <Frankr> planetmaker does it work for you now? 22:42:55 <planetmaker> yes 23:01:15 <Ammler> Frankr: what is not working? 23:01:44 <Frankr> website and hg pull for me 23:01:57 <Ammler> what ip get you for it? 23:02:27 <Frankr> which? 23:02:35 <Ammler> both 23:04:21 <Ammler> a paste of your "hg paths" might also be useful 23:05:58 <Frankr> ok 23:06:31 <Frankr> the website is 178.63.83.101 23:07:22 <Frankr> same for hg 23:09:02 <Frankr> my hg paths are default = http://hg.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset 23:09:03 <Frankr> default-push = https://frank:***@push.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset 23:09:06 <Ammler> ok 23:09:10 <Ammler> so it is a dns issue 23:09:25 <Frankr> yes 23:09:43 <Ammler> you wanna fix it or workaround it? 23:10:19 <Frankr> well a fix would be better i don't need to push right now 23:10:33 <Ammler> then you should tell that your isp 23:10:35 <Ammler> :-P 23:10:53 <Ammler> workaround is to define your own nameservers 23:11:00 <Ammler> like google: 8.8.8.8 23:11:55 <Frankr> lol, ok 23:12:00 <Ammler> you aren't the first here having bad isp 23:12:41 <Ammler> we should change ip every month or so, just to force the people to care about 23:12:52 <Frankr> it works at times which is wierd 23:13:13 <Ammler> yeah the isp might have servers which are ok, some aren't 23:13:46 <Ammler> usually people get around 2-3 of them 23:14:13 <Ammler> you could also edit your local hosts file 23:14:26 <Ammler> just remember to remove it again 23:15:02 <Ammler> in _any_ case, it is nothing we can do about :-) 23:15:26 <Ammler> well, I could setup an altennative address 23:15:36 <Frankr> ok, cheers. I'll sort it another time, :) 23:16:14 <Ammler> yeah, it shouldn't hurt, you don't want to rlease beta? 23:16:59 <Ammler> tomorrow, the old server is down, then 2 more servers are gone 23:17:00 <Frankr> no, i've rearranged the plane list in to alphabetical order that's all so nothing major, :) 23:17:34 <Frankr> you fully moved now then? 23:18:07 <Ammler> we fully moved yesterday 23:18:46 <Ammler> I just played around with proxy which got troubles 23:18:57 <Frankr> Ah, cool 23:19:45 <Frankr> I would imagine the Beta will be release in the next few days