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00:00:39 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1997:367854788949: Add: Base-station variables for airports and stat... XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/367854788949 00:40:18 *** planet has quit IRC 01:04:24 <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1049 to r1050 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1050 01:04:25 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1050:ed16580fcf69: Split B772 into Variants XFrankX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/ed16580fcf69 01:08:57 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1051:e3a2364a0d96: Changes to Coding Table 772ER, LR, 773ER Added XFrankX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/e3a2364a0d96 01:09:10 <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1050 to r1051 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1051 01:25:21 *** Frankr has quit IRC 05:40:50 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:57:39 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:11:52 *** Zuu has quit IRC 07:58:19 *** Guest7626 is now known as planetmaker 09:26:27 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:32:47 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:35:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:55:04 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:01:27 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:22:56 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:39:29 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1052:19cd36028d77: Remved 2 A340-300 Repaitns BEcuase they Never Exsi... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/19cd36028d77 11:39:29 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1053:7164be481fb5: Removed the Two Greyscale PCX pretending to be Rep... 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^ 18:07:58 <frosch123> convert 5245564d to ascii 18:09:11 <frosch123> id is stuff like "INFO", "DESC" and such 18:09:20 <frosch123> type "B" is type "B" :p 18:09:27 <frosch123> either your id is wrong 18:09:29 <frosch123> the type is wrong 18:09:39 <frosch123> or you are using it in the wrong position in the a14 tree 18:10:33 <Rubidium> REVM ? 18:10:45 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/basecosts/nightlies/r26/log/basecosts.nfo 18:11:27 <frosch123> it's MINV, not MVER 18:13:14 <frosch123> 1 * 68362 14 "C" "INFO" <- haha, so you need container 2 for that a14 :p 18:13:39 <Rubidium> more importantly you haven't added URL_ ;) 18:26:46 <Ammler> mayonaise 18:26:58 <Ammler> so is the GRFID an issue? 18:27:10 <Ammler> ah 18:27:26 <Ammler> never mind :-P 18:27:58 <Ammler> Rubidium: shouldn't nforenum alert this? 18:28:15 <Ammler> container 2 needs grfv8, right? 18:28:45 <Rubidium> Ammler: no 18:28:51 <Rubidium> (to both) 18:29:38 <Ammler> first time I need openttd to debug grfdev :-) 18:29:42 <Rubidium> I don't think nforenum is coded to fully parse and understand the action 14 data; mostly because it's defined as general structured data 18:30:20 <Rubidium> secondly, container version and grf version are not linked 18:30:20 <frosch123> yeah, it would just need double maintaining 18:30:33 <Rubidium> grfv2 in container v2 is perfectly possible 18:30:53 <Ammler> changing MVER to MINV didn't help 18:30:56 <Ammler> hmm 18:30:57 <frosch123> Ammler: it you want to retain chillpp compatibility, you might want to split the a14 into multiple a14 18:31:08 <frosch123> so you don't need container 2 18:31:11 <Ammler> I don't really need 18:31:23 <Ammler> the old grf is still available 18:31:28 <Yexo> <frosch123> Ammler: it you want to retain chillpp compatibility, you might want to split the a14 into multiple a14 <- wasn't a14 designed so this shouldn't be necesary? 18:31:41 <Ammler> I am not the guy who wants to delete old grfs on bananas :-P 18:31:57 <frosch123> Yexo: ammler wrote a a14 which is bigger than 64kb 18:32:06 <frosch123> so he needs container 2 18:32:08 <Yexo> ah :) 18:32:25 <frosch123> but splitting the a14 would result in the same bevaviour with container 1 18:32:32 <Ammler> well, basically that a14 is made by the wikianer 18:34:24 <Frankr> what an action 14 btw, :) 18:34:48 <Ammler> dbg: [grf] [basecosts.grf:1] DecodeSpecialSprite: Tried to read past end of pseudo-sprite data 18:35:07 <Ammler> Frankr: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/basecosts/nightlies/r26/log/basecosts.nfo 18:35:27 <Rubidium> Ammler: frosch123 already told you about that 18:35:35 <Ammler> container 2? 18:35:43 <Ammler> but do I need to define that manually? 18:35:44 <Rubidium> or splitting the a14 into two parts 18:36:04 <Ammler> I expected grfcodec to set when needed :-P 18:36:26 <Rubidium> grfcodec is too dumb for that 18:36:28 <frosch123> he, so it did not even complain? :p 18:36:44 <Ammler> as said, need openttd to debug it 18:36:54 <Rubidium> especially since it was 'designed' to just make a 8bpp GRF by default 18:38:37 <Ammler> and I would have no clue, how to split a14 PARM into multiple sprites 18:40:47 <Rubidium> then use container v2 18:41:51 <Rubidium> and set minver in bananas appropriately (1.2 r23887) 18:45:19 <Ammler> hmm, how do I define container 2? 18:45:42 <frosch123> command line option 18:46:12 <Ammler> ah grfcodec 18:50:10 <Ammler> but I assume, it is also a bit silly to use grfv7 with container v2? 18:54:59 <Ammler> mäh, I still get that error 19:02:05 <Ammler> dbg: [grf] [basecosts-dev.grf:1] DecodeSpecialSprite: Tried to read past end of pseudo-sprite data <-- if I still get that error, also with -g2, what could be wrong? 19:02:47 <Alberth> never coded a newgrf, but it sounds to me like too few bytes in one of the sprites 19:03:03 <Alberth> does nforenum give any hint? 19:03:20 <Ammler> dbg: [grf] [basecosts-dev.grf:1] DecodeSpecialSprite: Handling action 0x14 in stage 0 19:03:22 <Ammler> dbg: [grf] [basecosts-dev.grf:1] String was not terminated with a zero byte. 19:03:43 <Ammler> there are more debug levels than 3 for grfs 19:04:08 <Ammler> how do I find that string? 19:04:26 <Alberth> oh, you're doing nml? 19:04:54 <Alberth> nmlc --nfo x.nfo x.nml ; nforenum x.nfo ? 19:05:21 <Ammler> no, that is nfo 19:05:42 <Ammler> nforenum and grfcodec show no error 19:06:09 <Frankr> Your not just missing a simple 00 at the end by any chance i had a similar error i think 19:06:20 <Alberth> :( 19:06:46 <Ammler> Frankr: at which end? 19:07:52 <Alberth> is the source somewhere online? 19:07:59 <Frankr> well i haven't looked through all the action 14 but i can in a sec for you 19:09:48 <Ammler> Alberth: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1722/ 19:10:02 <Ammler> the nfo is there too 19:12:52 <Ammler> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/raw/1723 nfo only 19:13:18 <Ammler> also strange is that I set grfv8 but header is version 7 19:15:48 <Frankr> I think it should be 3 00 on each rather than 2 19:16:18 <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Version_numbers <- Ammler: please read up on container version, grf version and nfo version 19:17:58 <frosch123> Ammler: anyway, it might as well be a bug of grfcodec 19:18:10 <frosch123> so, does decoding the grf result in a a14 of same size? 19:18:19 <frosch123> or is truncated/corrupt? 19:18:35 <frosch123> i doubt anyone encoded a psuedo sprite bigger than 64kB up to now 19:19:50 <frosch123> i mean, even the coop pastebin cannot handle such big data :p 19:19:58 <frosch123> (hint: your paste above is truncated) 19:21:08 <Frankr> lol 19:21:43 <Alberth> well, at least I am now completely up-to-date with grfcodec and friends :) 19:22:13 <Ammler> frosch123: true :-) 19:22:28 <Ammler> hmm, where should I bugreport? 19:22:45 <Ammler> I have completely different nfos 19:23:04 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec <- likely there then 19:23:11 <Yexo> did you try to decode the corrupt grf and compare the nfo to the original? 19:24:54 <Ammler> yes, I did 19:25:05 <Brot6> Base Costs Mod - Bug #4223 (New): issues with sprites sizes XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4223 19:25:14 <Ammler> nfo and grf there ^ 19:25:39 <Frankr> Ammler should it be 0D at the end of DESC? I thought it was 00 19:25:55 <frosch123> Ammler: wrong project 19:26:16 <Ammler> frosch123: not a bug report 19:26:29 <frosch123> not? 19:26:41 <Ammler> Frankr: 0d is newline, afaik 19:27:16 <Ammler> frosch123: well, I am not sure, it is a bug yet 19:35:26 <Frankr> If it does would you not need it at the end of every line in the DECS 19:35:31 <Frankr> DESC* 19:44:12 <Ammler> why? I use 0d where I want a newline 19:47:48 <Brot6> Base Costs Mod - Bug #4223 (New): issues with sprites sizes XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4223 19:48:34 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1998:85073ef349bc: Add: Station variables, except platform info. XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/85073ef349bc 19:48:34 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Bug #4223 (New): issues with sprites sizes XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4223 19:48:41 <Ammler> frosch123: ticket moved ^ 19:48:45 <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1049:90ac41ad6b9a: Added B763ER, 744ER to Coding Table XFrankX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/90ac41ad6b9a 19:49:24 <Hirundo> why did Brot decide to inform us about NML r1998, which is 5 days old? 19:50:05 <Hirundo> planetmaker: Wrt #4222, currently NML uses parameters 64-127 for internal calculations, while 0-63 are kept free for the user 19:50:06 <Brot6> Hirundo: planetmaker: #4222 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/4222 "Feature Request #4222: Allow more than 64 user-defined parameters - NewGRF Meta Language - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:50:09 <Ammler> Hirundo: no clue 19:50:32 <Ammler> Hirundo: maybe because of my movement 19:50:45 <Hirundo> We could detect what parameters are used, but that fails for param[param[1]]-like code 19:50:53 <Frankr> oh you mean new line in game, :). Just the way it was coded with the multiple "" :p 19:51:22 <Ammler> Frankr: yes 19:54:29 <Yexo> Alberth: for code-style patches like #4220, feel free to push directly 19:54:30 <Brot6> Yexo: Alberth: #4220 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/4220 "Patch #4220: code layout keywords of the scanner - NewGRF Meta Language - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:54:47 <Alberth> ok, thanks 19:55:18 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #4222: Allow more than 64 user-defined parameters XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4222#change-11541 19:59:52 <Frankr> Only other thing i could say would be, do you need a MASK in any of these Parameters? 20:03:40 <Ammler> Frankr: do highlight, so people know, who you talk to :-P 20:05:28 <Ammler> if I decode the grf, it looks quite much like a bug 20:06:23 <Frankr> Ammler: Lol it is just a bad habbit, :) 20:37:00 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:56:06 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2008:bd8259dab3fb: Codechange: Improved layout of the keywords table... XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/bd8259dab3fb 20:57:24 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Patch #4220 (Closed): code layout keywords of the scanner XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4220 20:57:24 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Patch #4220 (Closed): code layout keywords of the scanner XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4220#change-11542 20:57:54 <Alberth> no Brot6, I closed it only once :) 21:00:47 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:51:52 *** Beardie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:56:57 *** frosch123 has quit IRC