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00:01:07  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1082:1af3e49922d4: Updated Readme With Some Appropiate Information XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/1af3e49922d4
00:01:19  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1081 to r1082 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1082
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07:54:03  <Ammler> I am a bit confused, why have both interfaces 127.0.0.1? https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1740/
07:55:32  <planetmaker> that's localhost
07:56:16  <Ammler> why is it on both interfaces?
07:56:29  <Ammler> it is on every container
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11:24:45  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 2011:67465b1f5105: Fix: Sprite layout register code contained an uns... XHirundoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/67465b1f5105
11:25:18  <Hirundo> planetmaker: Above commit should fix yesterday's regression error ( http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1733/ )
11:38:05  <Yexo> andythenorth: if you want to build chips you'll need nforenum 6.0.1 which was released last night
11:38:35  <andythenorth> k thanks
11:40:19  <andythenorth> tip seems to work
11:40:36  <Yexo> you need "make clean; make" for chips to actually rebuild
11:40:55  <Yexo> planetmaker: could you take a look at the Makefile? the dependencies are not working as they should
11:40:57  <andythenorth> yeah works
11:41:00  <andythenorth> for me anyway
11:41:02  <Yexo> great :)
11:41:13  <andythenorth> no build errors anyway, didn't test in game :P
11:41:28  <Yexo> if it builds it's ok
11:43:26  <planetmaker> chips makefile?
11:43:30  <planetmaker> I'll have a look right now
11:43:50  <Yexo> thanks :)
11:43:54  <planetmaker> great, Hirundo :-)
11:46:50  <planetmaker> he, I needed a newer grfcodec / nforenum :-)
11:47:34  <planetmaker> Yexo, which dependency does not work / which re-build fails?
11:48:03  <Yexo> I was changing grm*.pnfo yesterday but it didn't cause a rebuild
11:48:12  <planetmaker> ok. thx
11:49:20  <planetmaker> confirmed
11:50:26  <Yexo> chips.nfo depends on all .pnfo files, but chips.cnfo does not
11:50:41  <Yexo> chips.cnfo is processed by nforenum to chips.nfo, so the dep is wrong
11:51:57  <andythenorth> Yexo: time for CHIPS 1.0.1 ?
11:52:17  <andythenorth> or even 1.1.0 :P
11:52:19  <Yexo> I didn't change anything (it was a pure codechange)
11:52:36  <Yexo> the only change since 1.0.1 is r205, bugfix for the concrete slap tile
11:52:51  <Yexo> since 1.0.0 of course
11:52:54  <andythenorth> bug fix :P
11:52:58  <andythenorth> trivial release
11:53:03  <planetmaker> does anyone have an NML and / or NFO syntax highlighting for kate?
11:53:19  <Yexo> nope
11:53:32  <andythenorth> Yexo: is this closed then? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4000
11:53:48  <Yexo> not really, it still doesn't use templated code
11:54:20  <Yexo> but it's more of a feature request than a bug
11:55:26  <Yexo> let me see if I can properly fix that now
11:55:46  <andythenorth> k
11:57:40  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1083:6958c3c212c4: Updated GRF Description XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/6958c3c212c4
11:57:44  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1082 to r1083 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1083
11:58:08  <Ammler> Beardie: why don't you use bundles for the releases?
11:58:19  <Beardie> bundles?
11:58:20  <Ammler> (or tags)
11:58:48  <Ammler> hg tag alpha2 ; hg up alpha2 ; make
11:58:50  <Beardie> for the description of the GRF?
11:58:51  <planetmaker> Ammler, they use their own makefile
11:59:06  <planetmaker> similar to mine, but a custom modification by yorick
11:59:07  <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, but it shold work with devzone
11:59:23  <planetmaker> true. tags should always work. forgot :-)
11:59:39  <Ammler> well, I don't really care, it is just that you have around 10 zips with same content but different urls
11:59:42  <Beardie> so what if i type hg tag alpha2? what does that do extaclly?
11:59:53  <Ammler> that creates the tag
11:59:56  <planetmaker> but they do not necessarily mean that the version display is correct, Ammler, if no special provisions are taken
12:00:06  <planetmaker> and the ingame version display is kinda important, too
12:00:25  <Beardie> at the moment the revision si display in the titel of theg rf
12:00:35  <Ammler> Beardie: so your release is modified version?
12:00:37  <Beardie> and if could type correctly it would help
12:01:09  <Beardie> which release?
12:01:14  <Beardie> the Beta Release?
12:01:19  <Ammler> no, alpha2
12:01:36  <Beardie> that was just the latest revision at the time since alpha release
12:01:48  <Beardie> i put it in the files section of my page the other day as a record of it
12:01:55  <Ammler> yes, why not use hg tag for it?
12:02:12  <Ammler> like you did for alpha1
12:02:16  <Beardie> becuase i never knew such thing exsists
12:02:27  <Ammler> ok, now you do :-P
12:02:40  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1084:64acc75ded9e: Added tag beta for changeset 6958c3c212c4 XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/64acc75ded9e
12:02:47  <Beardie> yes lol
12:02:52  <Beardie> i am playing around with it now
12:02:57  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from  to beta done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/releases/beta
12:03:31  <Ammler> devzone builds quite fast now
12:03:36  <Beardie> so
12:03:45  <Beardie> so with that tag what does it mean exactly?
12:03:48  <Beardie> its now beta
12:04:09  <Beardie> so that means its made a zip file of beta release?
12:04:25  <Beardie> o i have a release section now lol
12:04:25  <planetmaker> Beardie, a tag allows you to use "hg up <tagname>"
12:04:27  <Ammler> hmm, no exactly
12:04:38  <Ammler> shall I update the spec so it does?
12:04:51  <planetmaker> and on the devzone it means that a release build is triggered
12:05:06  <planetmaker> (if enabled in .devzone/build/releases or so)
12:05:20  <Beardie> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/releases/ it worked planetmaker
12:05:30  <Beardie> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/ its appeared here lol
12:05:52  <planetmaker> exactly :-)
12:06:01  <Beardie> ok
12:06:03  <Beardie> thats cool
12:06:09  <planetmaker> thus tag your release. And download the zip which needs uploading to bananas a bit later from there ;-)
12:06:22  <Beardie> super
12:06:26  <Beardie> so what if that was not beta release?
12:06:34  <Beardie> and i want to change it a bit more
12:06:48  <Beardie> do i just carry on changing the repo
12:06:55  <Beardie> and then hg taf beta again?
12:06:57  <Yexo> basically like anything in hg you can't change it anymore
12:06:59  <Beardie> tag*
12:07:05  <Yexo> what you can do is just continue in the repo and make a new release
12:07:14  <Yexo> that should have a different (unique) name
12:07:22  <Beardie> can i not delete that beta release?
12:07:28  <Yexo> simply "alpha" or "beta" isn't a good tag
12:07:41  <Yexo> it'd better to name it 1.0-beta1 or 0.3.5-alpha2
12:07:48  <planetmaker> Beardie, it also happened to me that I detected some nasty bug between pushing a tagged version and uploading to bananas
12:08:12  <planetmaker> I simply didn't put that release onto bananas. I just fixed it. And made a new release with a tag. which I put onto bananas
12:08:22  <planetmaker> and yes. I always use like 1.0.1
12:08:22  <Beardie> yeah
12:08:38  <Beardie> well me a frank may have to talk about twhat to do
12:08:42  <planetmaker> and increase the last one by 1. No hurt to not publish a faulty release on bananas
12:08:47  <Ammler> yep, don't use the same version you relasesd already again
12:08:56  <Ammler> there should be only one released beta
12:09:07  * andythenorth wants to release a FISH 2 beta
12:09:12  <Beardie> its just id didn't want to release it lol, i just did that becuase id din;t know what the commands did until i did it lol
12:09:14  <andythenorth> but bananas doesn't offer a way to do that :(
12:09:18  <Ammler> but there can be beta1...beta123
12:10:30  <Beardie> so that relase automaitcall gets uploaded to BaNaNas?
12:11:19  <Yexo> released never get uploaded to bananas automatically
12:11:50  <Beardie> ok
12:11:53  <Beardie> good lol
12:12:28  <planetmaker> use beta-1, beta-2 etc, if you want to use beta :-)
12:12:40  <Beardie> well yeah tahts what i did with alpha
12:12:41  <planetmaker> or similar
12:12:46  <Beardie> it then went to alpha2
12:12:51  * andythenorth tries to figure out how to release FISH 2
12:13:05  <andythenorth> perhaps the solution is "don't care about save games"
12:13:06  <Yexo> hg tag, wait for cf, upload to bananas :p
12:13:35  <andythenorth> maybe FISH 2 just gets a new grf ID and that's that
12:13:39  <Yexo> and yes, don't care too much about savegames. As soon as it gives more work, drop it and leave them with the old version until they start a new game
12:14:10  <Beardie> thing it the title of my GRF has the revision in it, i want it to say the tag now i made the release, but frank coded it and now i don;t knwo what he has done lol
12:14:58  <planetmaker> mind if I kinda adopt make-nml to chips?
12:15:07  <planetmaker> thus making a bit of major makefile overhaul there?
12:15:26  <Yexo> I don't care if that fixes the dependency problems, but ask andythenorth too
12:15:36  <planetmaker> I'm a bit sick of the old makefile framework ...
12:15:45  <andythenorth> planetmaker: fine by me
12:15:47  <planetmaker> and I *hope* this works better
12:15:55  <andythenorth> good luck :)
12:17:01  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1085:82b920b5a306: Change: update to possible tag XRhodeCode AdminX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/82b920b5a306
12:17:02  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1086:ce4fd44129c6: Change: publish rpmlist XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/ce4fd44129c6
12:17:16  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1083 to r1086 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1086
12:20:36  <Beardie> i changed some files and tried to push
12:20:45  <Beardie> then it would not merge
12:21:00  <Beardie> so i just want to conecel and pull 1086 after your change ammler
12:21:05  <Beardie> cancel*
12:21:29  <Yexo> Beardie: "hg pull" "hg merge"
12:21:31  <Brot6> GRFCodec / NFORenum - Revision 945:8f0c50d82b98: Change: update rpm package version to 6.0.REVISON XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/8f0c50d82b98
12:21:44  <Yexo> maybe followed by "hg commit -m 'Merge changes from Ammler'"
12:21:48  <Yexo> after that you can "hg push"
12:21:51  <Beardie> yexo i do want my commited cahnged to go through now, i just wanted to cancel it all
12:21:55  <Beardie> yes i no that yexo
12:22:03  <Beardie> do not want*
12:22:10  <Rubidium> Ammler: does the grfcodec change mean you build 6.0.943?
12:22:10  <Yexo> in that case "hg strip -r REV" where REV is the revision you want to remove
12:22:20  <Ammler> Rubidium: no
12:22:31  <Ammler> or maybe
12:22:40  <Ammler> dunno, does it matter?
12:22:47  <Beardie> hg strip not recognised
12:22:58  <Yexo> there must be alternatives for that, but I do not know them
12:23:06  <Ammler> grfcodec-5.2.r942-suse1210.i586
12:23:14  <Rubidium> Ammler: it might confuse people building/using the rpm?!?
12:23:23  <Yexo> Ammler: that's wrong, it should be 6.0.1.REVISION
12:23:38  <Ammler> well, the spec is for our internal build system only
12:23:47  <Ammler> there is another spec in the docs, afaik
12:23:49  <Beardie> anyone got alternatice to hg striop
12:23:51  <Yexo> still, it should reflect the correct version
12:23:52  <Beardie> strip*
12:23:58  <Ammler> Beardie: hg clone -r
12:24:10  <planetmaker> Beardie, what do you want to strip? why?
12:24:23  <Beardie> i commited some things wnat to cancel
12:24:24  <Rubidium> but... if it's internal, it'll never build stables. As a result just rXYZ is sufficient
12:24:40  <Ammler> Yexo: well, feel free to change it
12:24:53  <Ammler> now, it does need change until grfcodec 6.1
12:25:04  <Ammler> this rpm is on devzone only
12:25:13  <Ammler> not available in public
12:25:22  <Rubidium> so why update the version anyway?
12:25:32  <Rubidium>  s/anyway//
12:25:34  <planetmaker> andythenorth, Yexo do you mind an unconditional re-build?
12:25:43  <Ammler> to confuse us less, which failed :-P
12:25:49  <Ammler> Rubidium: ah no
12:26:00  <Yexo> I don't mind, that's basically what has to be done anyway for each change
12:26:08  <Yexo> if you don't change anything, don't rebuild :p
12:26:13  <Ammler> it needs to be higher, else it could use the official release 6.0.1
12:26:25  <Beardie> hg clone -r1086 sys reposity not found?
12:26:37  <planetmaker> it does now, though, just re-build... maybe I can tune that...
12:26:41  <Ammler> mäh, which I failed anyway
12:26:48  <Rubidium> so make it ∞.rXYZ
12:27:26  <Rubidium> assuming ∞ orders above 6 in the RPM universe
12:28:13  <Ammler> yeah, 6.0.1.rX would have been better
12:28:34  <Ammler> maybe something like 999.rX ?
12:29:33  <andythenorth> planetmaker: unconditional?
12:29:45  <andythenorth> I always use 'make clean' anyway for every build
12:29:48  <andythenorth> if that helps :P
12:29:50  <Rubidium> Ammler: fine by me; I don't expect reaching that version any time soon
12:30:21  <Yexo> andythenorth: it means that whenever you do "make" it always rebuilds even if you didn't change anything
12:30:28  <andythenorth> yes
12:30:29  <Yexo> it basically means you don't have to do "make clean" anymore
12:30:30  <andythenorth> fine by me
12:30:53  <Beardie> no more make clean?
12:30:55  <andythenorth> calculating deps look like a headache to me ;)
12:31:05  <andythenorth> just make the tools faster :P
12:31:08  <Yexo> Beardie: this is about chips, not was :P
12:31:27  <Beardie> you edited you makefile to allow you to skip the make clean command?
12:31:37  <Beardie> just asking :)
12:31:45  <Yexo> pm is busy with that, yes :)
12:31:52  <Beardie> sounds good
12:32:24  <Beardie> maybe i should talk to frank about that he might be able to implement it for was
12:32:29  <planetmaker> <andythenorth> calculating deps look like a headache to me ;) <-- it's feasible. But... pointless, if it takes longer than building
12:33:14  <planetmaker> and also pointless if it has fail conditions like removing a file which then is required to build and will make fail...
12:33:36  <Ammler> now, it should also be obvious, the version in that spec isn't related to the official releases
12:33:36  <planetmaker> while it is not required anymore. So... meh
12:33:36  <Brot6> GRFCodec / NFORenum - Revision 946:e5ffee94987b: Fix (r945): make the internal rpm spec version so i... XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/e5ffee94987b
12:33:48  <Yexo> thanks Ammler
12:33:55  <planetmaker> Ammler, but why not make it have the right version?
12:34:05  <planetmaker> no 4-digit one feasible?
12:34:21  <Ammler> planetmaker: well, Rubidium simply forgot it
12:34:31  <Ammler> sometime he did, sometime I
12:34:58  <Ammler> as said, that rpm is not public, so no big deal
12:35:24  <Ammler> official rpms you got from openttd.org
12:35:31  <Ammler> s/rpms/binaries/
12:35:31  <Brot6> Ammler meant: "official binaries you got from openttd.org"
12:37:53  <Ammler> official rpm spec: https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=grfcodec.spec&package=grfcodec&project=games
12:37:55  <Webster> Title: View File grfcodec.spec of Package grfcodec - openSUSE Build Service (at build.opensuse.org)
12:38:15  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1087:604fa4521bde: Made Small Change For Test XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/604fa4521bde
12:38:15  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1088:257d9ebec430: Added tag beta for changeset 604fa4521bde XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/257d9ebec430
12:38:15  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1089:099e3c34cf4a: Merged XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/099e3c34cf4a
12:38:16  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1090:38e13447fecf: Merged XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/38e13447fecf
12:38:19  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1091:5d7b8a67d372: Merged XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/5d7b8a67d372
12:38:22  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1092:e741bfc4664d: Merged Again XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/e741bfc4664d
12:38:22  <Beardie> This is how much i broke it by now fixed -> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/graph
12:38:25  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from beta to beta done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/releases/beta
12:38:32  <Beardie> i can chagne the beta
12:38:59  <Yexo> you really made a mess of it :p
12:39:03  <Ammler> Beardie: could have simply be avoided by a "hg pull" before "hg push"
12:39:09  <Beardie> i did
12:39:16  <Ammler> hg commit
12:39:17  <Beardie> hg pull
12:39:18  <Ammler> I meant
12:39:19  <Beardie> hg merfe
12:39:29  <Beardie> i knwo i have done it many times bfore with merges
12:39:36  <Beardie> but it just was not having it
12:39:44  <Ammler> hehe
12:39:57  <Beardie> kept saying puck a specific revision
12:40:00  <Beardie> pick*
12:40:12  <Ammler> [14:38] <Beardie> i can chagne the beta <-- yes, you can, but should not be done
12:40:15  <Ammler> :-)
12:40:21  <Beardie> well yeah i know ammler
12:40:30  <Beardie> but i didn;t knwo i was creating one when you told me the commands
12:40:33  <Yexo> you've now created a new problem: which revision is the beta? There are two tags with the same name
12:40:34  <Beardie> so its not my fault
12:40:36  <Ammler> well, it is your project :-P
12:40:57  <Yexo> and yes, it is your fault, you could have named the second one "beta1" or "beta2" and simply skip the "beta" release
12:41:24  <Ammler> like you used alpha1, alpha2
12:41:40  <Beardie> i acutally have 3 tags
12:41:45  <Beardie> can i not delete the tags
12:41:59  <Ammler> also you should prefix with the version you plan to make the first release
12:42:01  <Yexo> everything that has been pushed can't be undone
12:42:07  <andythenorth> don't worry about the tags
12:42:08  <Ammler> like 1.0-beta1 or 0.1-beta1
12:42:14  <Yexo> you can revert the changes, but you cannot remove it from view anymore
12:42:26  <Beardie> yes i know that but its no just my decision need to talk to frank and alex
12:42:42  <Beardie> .hgtags can i not remove teh tags from there?
12:42:44  <Yexo> than ignore the tags for now and make a new tag "beta1" when you've talked to them
12:42:53  <Ammler> else it might be hard for people to know, what is newer, 1.0 or beta2
12:42:54  <Beardie> yes i was thinking that
12:43:01  <andythenorth> you can remove tags, but if you're not confident with hg yet, don't do it
12:44:26  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 896:92f2b8ca2b1e: Change: set a new grfid for use in FISH 2 XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/92f2b8ca2b1e
12:46:31  <Brot6> FISH - FISH_2_buy_menu.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3233/FISH_2_buy_menu.png
12:46:57  <Ammler> if you remove tags, use hg tag --remove, don't edit .hgtags
12:47:30  <planetmaker> andythenorth, Yexo can you test chips building, whether I missed something?
12:47:34  <Ammler> (except you know, how it works)
12:47:44  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 207:a053560cefa8: Change: [Makefile] Re-Write of makefile based on make... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/a053560cefa8
12:48:24  <Yexo> make after "make clean" complains about "cat: chips.md5: No such file or directory"
12:48:55  <planetmaker> interesting
12:49:55  <andythenorth> make bundle_zip works
12:50:09  <andythenorth> make <- same complaint as yexo saw
12:50:28  <andythenorth> actually ignore that
12:51:01  <andythenorth> same md5 complaint for any target after a 'make clean'
12:51:10  <andythenorth> but second time works
12:51:12  <planetmaker> should be fixed now :-)
12:51:16  <planetmaker> nasty c&p error :-)
12:51:28  <andythenorth> works for me
12:51:34  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 208:68e6aeacd71e: Fix (r207): [Makefile] Don't assume that the md5sum e... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/68e6aeacd71e
12:51:51  <andythenorth> 2.5s to build
12:51:57  <Yexo> works for me too :)
12:51:58  <andythenorth> I'll accept that :)
12:52:02  <planetmaker> nice :-)
12:52:09  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 209:aa21ebbb887e: Fix #4000: use template code for concrete slab tile s... XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/aa21ebbb887e
12:52:09  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #4000 (Closed): Concrete slab tile can't use templated code XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4000#change-11560
12:52:19  <Yexo> andythenorth: are you planning on fixing #4008?
12:52:19  <Brot6> Yexo: andythenorth: #4008 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/4008 "Feature #4008: High concrete slab platforms and/or ramps - CHIPS Station Set - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
12:52:27  <Yexo> otherwise we can make a new release
12:52:37  <andythenorth> not fixing that right now
12:52:41  <andythenorth> let's do 1.0.1
12:52:48  <andythenorth> I'll test it with canset
12:53:04  <Yexo> Shall I update changelog while you test?
12:53:11  <andythenorth> ok
12:53:12  <andythenorth> thanks
12:55:15  <andythenorth> grf name is borked somehow
12:55:28  <andythenorth> in the newgrf window
12:55:32  <andythenorth> it's droppped part of the string
12:55:59  <planetmaker> hm... my fault maybe?
12:56:00  <andythenorth> and the bug is still present with Can Trains 1.1a
12:56:20  <Yexo> planetmaker: {{GRF_ID}} is not replaced correctly
12:57:07  <planetmaker> not updated? or how?
12:57:22  <Yexo> -1 * 0 08 07 {{GRF_ID}} "{{GRF_TITLE}}" 00 "ECHIPS Station Set\n" <- in chips.cnfo
12:57:37  <Yexo> 2 * 240	 08 07  "CHIPS Station Set r209M" 00 "ECHIPS Station Set\n" <- in chips.nfo
12:58:20  <andythenorth> I see "S Station Set r209"
12:58:24  <andythenorth> in the newgrf list
12:58:35  <Yexo> yes, the first 4 letters are taked as grfid since there is nothing else there
12:58:49  <planetmaker> my fault
12:59:14  <andythenorth> the bug with can trains is narrow gauge only
12:59:54  <andythenorth> also present with monorail and opengfx+ trains
12:59:56  <Yexo> nothing to do with can trains
13:00:01  <Yexo> try monorail / maglev
13:00:01  <Yexo> :)
13:00:32  <andythenorth> yup
13:00:34  <Yexo> it's a different one now though
13:00:41  <Yexo> last time it was with the rails, now only with the empty tils
13:03:38  <andythenorth> sprite number offset?
13:03:41  <Yexo> yep
13:04:13  <Beardie> Curious question if i was going to change beta to a numbered release should i start at 0.1? or knowig that we are aiming for 1.0 should i start it closer to 1.0?
13:04:40  <Yexo> if you're preparing for 1.0 you should call it 1.0-beta1
13:04:54  <Yexo> or 1.0.0-beta1, depending on how you plan to number your releases
13:04:54  <Beardie> well 1.0 could be a far distnace away
13:05:07  <Yexo> name it after the first "stable" you want to release
13:05:25  <Beardie> well it is stable now just not go all the features wer hoped
13:05:37  <Yexo> if it's stable don't call it a beta
13:05:42  <Yexo> simply release version "0.1"
13:05:46  <planetmaker> ^
13:05:50  <Beardie> yes thats what i was thinking
13:05:51  <Yexo> next (incomplete) stable would be "0.2"
13:06:20  <Yexo> if you want to release 0.4 but you're not sure if it's stable enough, release 0.4-beta1
13:06:23  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/roadmap <-- the next release is version 1, so 1.0-beta1 sounds reasonalbe
13:06:27  <Yexo> fix some bugs in that version, then release 0.4
13:06:28  <Yexo> etc.
13:06:43  <Beardie> Ammler that was put tehre becuase we were not sure when version 1 might be
13:07:41  <Yexo> andythenorth: the best fix would be to disable offsets for all sprites
13:07:51  <Yexo> that also means we can get rid of the grm_sprites hack we use currently
13:08:14  <andythenorth> what does that entail?
13:08:21  <andythenorth> I could just draw a concrete base tile :P
13:08:41  <planetmaker> Fixed forgotten grfid
13:08:47  <Yexo> using prop 1A instead of prop 09 in the action0
13:08:53  <Yexo> will do, just takes some time
13:09:02  <andythenorth> k
13:09:12  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 210:5edfd61dff3a: Fix (r207): [Makefile] Don't forget the grfid XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/5edfd61dff3a
13:09:12  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 211:67e58343d847: Cleanup: Remove some now unneeded files XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/67e58343d847
13:09:23  <Yexo> got to go, will be back later today to fix that and make a release
13:09:40  <andythenorth> bye ;)
13:10:40  <planetmaker> enjoy, Yexo :-)
13:19:20  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 212:fcd36a093ddc: Fix (r211): Cleanup properly, thoroughly, but not too... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/fcd36a093ddc
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13:39:42  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1093:433335e5bd33: Was trying to cahnge revision in GRF to TAGS, but ... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/433335e5bd33
13:39:50  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1086 to r1093 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1093
13:45:17  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1094:88b9e8f0a18c: Updated GRFCodec and NFORenum to latest Nightly Tr... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/88b9e8f0a18c
13:45:42  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1093 to r1094 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1094
13:55:45  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4229 (New): Remove Revision And Add v0.1 to GRF Title for v0.1 Release XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4229
13:58:28  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Bug #4230 (New): Create New v0.1 Tag For Official Release And Add To BaNaNaS XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4230
14:04:01  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1094 to r1095 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/push/r1095
14:04:10  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 1095:ceb759caf278: Uploaded New Banner For TT-Fourms To Repo for Stor... XBeardie27X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/ceb759caf278
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16:36:45  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 897:a544c499b87a: Added tag FISH_2_alpha_1 for changeset 92f2b8ca2b1e XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/a544c499b87a
16:36:45  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #4231 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4231
16:57:32  <Brot6> FISH - eh_.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3234/eh_.png
17:07:48  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r942 to r946 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r946
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17:09:17  <Brot6> nml: update from r2010 to r2011 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r2011
17:18:09  <Brot6> fish: update from r895 to r897 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r897
17:18:50  <Brot6> chips: update from r205 to r212 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r212
17:19:43  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r1078 to r1095 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/r1095
17:20:00  <Yexo> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r212/log/chips-r212-build.err.log says /bin/sh: nmlc: command not found
17:20:09  <Yexo> planetmaker: one makefile change too much?
17:21:41  <Brot6> ogfx-industries: rebuild of r133 done (Diffsize: 48460) (DiffDiffsize: 215) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/r133/log
17:39:37  <planetmaker> hm
17:43:10  <planetmaker> well. not too much. But the (not used) definition of NML which was there, uses a call of NML to determin its version
17:43:41  <planetmaker> I wonder actually why that is needed...
17:49:54  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 213:93119f48ebc6: Fix: make sure no empty tile uses any offsets for dif... XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/93119f48ebc6
17:50:27  <Yexo> andythenorth: ^^ could you give that a test before it is released?
17:53:07  <Yexo> how can I fix a default line ending with hg?
17:53:20  <Yexo> currently chips/docs/* has mixed line endings
17:53:28  <Yexo> I can fix it now, but is there a good way to keep them consistent?
17:58:49  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 214:34fa5625ee09: Doc: use LF line endings only XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/34fa5625ee09
17:58:49  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 215:5a1c5d749163: Codechange: add .hgeol file to force line endings XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/5a1c5d749163
18:05:10  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 216:1e60fb85cd21: Doc: update changelog for 1.0.1 XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/1e60fb85cd21
18:06:04  <Yexo> andythenorth: ^^ everything is ready for release, just the tag needs pushing when you're done testing
18:10:18  <planetmaker> Yexo, should I remove the build error still?
18:10:29  <Yexo> if it's easy, yes please :)
18:10:30  <planetmaker> with the missing NML?
18:10:34  <planetmaker> yes, very easy :-)
18:10:47  <Yexo> so go ahead :)
18:12:35  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 217:4acd71c96d67: Fix: Don't even try to find NML XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/4acd71c96d67
18:13:08  <Yexo> thanks :)
18:13:31  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 218:313ae981495b: Change: update changelog a bit XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/313ae981495b
18:14:48  <andythenorth> Yexo: will you fix the other tiles for non-default rail type?
18:15:06  <Yexo> I thought I did :(
18:15:44  <andythenorth> seems not in my test :(
18:15:53  <andythenorth> let me check I have the right grf
18:17:27  <andythenorth> I have 218
18:17:46  <andythenorth> still broken :|
18:18:00  <andythenorth> sorry
18:18:55  <Yexo> how is it broken? For me all track tiles work fine, all non-track tlles have only some bench as building (for all railtypes)
18:20:23  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: rebuild of r111 done (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 5467) (DiffDiffsize: 211) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/r111/log
18:20:44  <andythenorth> Yexo: I see bench issue as well
18:20:55  <andythenorth> and their are issues with the sprites in the 'tiles' menu
18:21:08  <andythenorth> wrong ground
18:21:18  <andythenorth> there / their /s
18:22:41  <Yexo> I don't see the issue with wrong ground
18:23:11  <andythenorth> I have oil rig sprites in some of them :)
18:23:15  <andythenorth> I'll screenshot
18:24:32  <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3235/chips_issue.png
18:24:55  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - chips_issue.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3235/chips_issue.png
18:25:14  <Yexo> ah, I do see that issue :)
18:25:26  <Yexo> just didn't recognize it as new problem, thought it were just strange buildings
18:25:33  <Yexo> no oil rig for me but half a bank :p
18:25:48  <Brot6> firs: rebuild of r2876 done (12 warnings) (Diffsize: 18286) (DiffDiffsize: 5695) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2876/log
18:35:13  <andythenorth> I didn't find it until recently :P
18:38:59  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 72), airportsplus (Diffsize: 101058), basecosts, german-townnames (Diffsize: 5042), dutchtrains (Diffsize: 885), 32bpp-extra (2 warnings), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 1), snowlinemod, zbuild (Diffsize: 13), isr (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 1367), opengfx (Diffsize: 26), 2cctrainset (78 warnings), spanishtowns (Diffsize: 8), ttrs (7
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19:16:20  <Yexo> andythenorth: could you please pull and test again?
19:16:28  <Yexo> I (again) think it's all fixed now
19:16:35  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 219:7becad0d231f: Fix: more offset issues with monorail/maglev stations XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/7becad0d231f
19:21:12  <andythenorth> Yexo: fixed for the empty platforms, not fixed for the various buildings under 'tiles' :)
19:23:59  <Yexo> oh, the ground tiles
19:24:23  <Yexo> was this ever ok or has it always been this broken?
19:25:18  <andythenorth> always broken I think
19:25:28  <andythenorth> I never play with railtypes that show the issue
19:25:42  <andythenorth> I don't mind if you can't / don't want to fix right now :)
19:25:58  <Yexo> it's easy, just a bit boring
19:26:03  <Yexo> but good to fix now
19:26:31  <andythenorth> k
19:35:39  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 220:a239a5de353e: Fix: yet again more offset issues with monorail/magle... XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/a239a5de353e
19:35:42  <Yexo> andythenorth: another round of tests please? :)
19:36:48  <andythenorth> Yexo: works for me :)
19:37:04  <andythenorth> when I added those tiles, I knew it wasn't quite the right way to do it :P
19:37:07  <andythenorth> sorry :P
19:37:13  <Yexo> np :)
19:37:22  <andythenorth> release?
19:37:25  <Yexo> they really should be templated, it was basically copy/paste 10 times or so
19:37:28  <andythenorth> I know :P
19:37:36  <Yexo> yes, just want to add tihs to the changelog and I'll push the tag
19:37:57  <andythenorth> I find stations too hard to template myself
19:38:05  <andythenorth> vehicles, industries - easy :P
19:38:08  <Yexo> "Fix sprite issues when building "chips buildings" on monorail/maglev track" <- that enough?
19:38:11  <andythenorth> fine
19:38:19  <andythenorth> ah
19:38:23  <andythenorth> it's "chips tiles"
19:38:38  <Yexo> kk
19:39:25  <Yexo> here goes :)
19:39:40  <Brot6> chips: update from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/releases/1.0.1
19:40:16  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 221:899157ef8d9b: Doc: fixes to 'chips tiles' XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/899157ef8d9b
19:40:16  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 222:94e61842561d: Added tag 1.0.1 for changeset 899157ef8d9b XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/94e61842561d
19:40:20  <andythenorth> yay
19:40:25  <Yexo> do you do the upload to bananas and a forum post?
19:41:05  <Yexo> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/releases/1.0.1/ contains a file "*.tar.gz.md5", I doubt that was anyones intention
19:41:11  <Yexo> is that part of the Makefile or the build system?
19:41:46  <planetmaker> it's the md5 of the tar, so that people can verify the tar.gz, I think
19:42:13  <planetmaker> like you usually offer means to verify integrity of downloads
19:42:27  <Yexo> the file is 1 byte long
19:42:44  <Yexo> the * in the filename is real, not me substituting it for something
19:42:51  <planetmaker> oh... ehm. I see what you mean :-)
19:42:53  <andythenorth> Yexo: I can do the upload and post, or you :)
19:43:01  <andythenorth> I don't mind.  I am doing cashflow at the moment :P
19:43:06  <planetmaker> that's obviously something buggy. Dunno where now
19:43:09  <Yexo> ok, I'll do it :)
19:43:14  <andythenorth> what is £500k in Euros :P
19:43:32  <andythenorth> oh about €625000
19:43:40  <andythenorth> that's how much I need to borrow :P
19:43:54  <andythenorth> should be fine
19:52:17  <Yexo> andythenorth: it's on bananas, but I can't edit the first post of the release topic
19:52:24  <andythenorth> I'll do that :)
19:52:29  <andythenorth> the money can wait ;)
19:54:07  <andythenorth> done
19:54:49  <andythenorth> ok, that newgrf is nearly finished for ever :)
19:55:00  <andythenorth> awesome :)
19:55:37  <Terkhen> that can't be
19:55:45  <Terkhen> we should not let andythenorth finish any project
19:56:11  <Terkhen> that has never happened, we don't know what he might do :P
19:56:26  <andythenorth> I might moan less?
19:56:27  <andythenorth> :P
19:57:27  <Terkhen> that sounds unlikely somehow
19:59:05  <Ammler> Yexo: / planetmaker for some reason, there is no source tarball
19:59:20  <Ammler> that is why there is that silly md5-file
19:59:46  <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/releases/LATEST/log/chips-1.0.1-devzone.err.log
20:01:45  <Ammler> planetmaker: also isn't the md5-file of the grf itself useless in the meantime?
20:02:22  <Yexo> somewhat, yes
20:02:24  <Ammler> well, the md5sum instead grfid sum
20:02:31  <Yexo> you can still use it to verify the file you downloaded is correct
20:02:37  <Yexo> but it should be replaced with the value from grfid
20:02:48  <Ammler> yeah, that is the md5sum of the zip
20:03:06  <Ammler> or the tar whatever, but the other md5sum file was to compare with the sum in openttd
20:04:24  <Ammler> chips uses default build script, shall I remove the source tarball to be published or should it be fixed to publish it?
20:05:02  <Yexo> it should be fixed to publish it
20:05:42  <Ammler> make %{?_smp_mflags} bundle_zip bundle_src ZIP="7za a" ZIP_FLAGS="-tzip -mx9" 1>%{name}-%{dz_version}-build.log 2>%{name}-%{dz_version}-build.err.log
20:05:48  <Ammler> hmm, strange
20:06:47  <Ammler> I guess, I should add publisher to log too
20:08:08  <Ammler> -rw-r--r--  1 399 399 5130240 Sep 22 19:39 chips-1.0.1-source.tar
20:08:19  <Ammler> planetmaker: somehow it forgot to compress the tar ^
20:20:32  <Ammler> bundle_src is a depreciated target for bundle_gsrc
20:22:08  <Ammler> but it is used quite widely, not sure, you should use it for tar only, maybe better bundle_tsrc
20:22:54  <Ammler> tar only might be useful for the binaries, but imo not for sources
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