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11:35:40 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:35:49 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:35:57 *** Yexo has quit IRC 11:36:18 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:36:26 *** Yexo- is now known as Yexo 11:36:49 *** XeryusTC_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:36:49 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:38:13 *** _Terkhen has quit IRC 11:45:37 <Alberth> Rubidium: pushed 11:45:47 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 188:e695430cf683: Add: Several toyland industries. XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/e695430cf683 11:45:47 <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 58:b7e41e647e20: Add: Several toyland industries. XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/b7e41e647e20 11:47:19 *** ^ekipS^ has quit IRC 12:07:01 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: Connection refused - connect(2) 12:44:06 <Brot6> zbuild: update from r57 to r58 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/r58 13:09:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2889:2d825170146e: Codechange: rename source graphics file ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2d825170146e 13:09:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2890:cac4e9a2ca61: Cleanup: remove deprecated Fuel Depot sp... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/cac4e9a2ca61 13:09:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2891:3e2d6e269ce0: Codechange: drawn snow graphics for Recy... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3e2d6e269ce0 13:09:57 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2892:73cb00f4f8c4: Feature: snow for windmill version of Gr... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/73cb00f4f8c4 13:10:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2893:d2e856aeb549: Cleanup: rename waste collection point XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d2e856aeb549 13:10:05 <Brot6> firs: update from r2888 to r2893 done (28 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2893 13:11:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2894:807f5b71761e: Codechange: drawn snow graphic for Oil W... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/807f5b71761e 13:11:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2895:5d048533c655: Codechange: drawn snow graphics for Suga... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5d048533c655 13:11:12 <andythenorth> Terkhen: ^ fancy updating the templates to enable those snow graphics? :) 13:11:52 <Brot6> firs: update from r2893 to r2895 done (28 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2895 13:13:24 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2896:126319f99365: Codechange: crop spritesheet for Oil Wel... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/126319f99365 13:13:24 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2897:5b60af8d6fbc: Codechange: work in progress adding snow... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5b60af8d6fbc 13:14:03 <Brot6> firs: update from r2895 to r2897 done (28 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2897 13:23:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2753: Stockyard snow sprites XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2753#change-11815 13:36:07 <Terkhen> andythenorth: I won't be coding much for a while, I have a mixture of social compromises and game releases in the following weeks :P 13:36:14 <andythenorth> k 13:36:26 <andythenorth> maybe someone else understands the sprite layouts :) 13:36:34 <andythenorth> I think pm is away though 13:36:56 <andythenorth> Yexo do you understand FIRS sprite layouts? 13:40:16 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Revision 166:ee4a89eebe16: [Compiler] change: filter out nmlc warnings about l... XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/ee4a89eebe16 13:41:20 <^Spike^> i somehow start to appreciate sar 13:47:48 *** Beardie has quit IRC 14:09:30 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:11:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:17:15 <Yexo> andythenorth: shouldn't be too much trouble 14:17:29 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4329 (New): Missing bubbles XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4329 14:22:36 <andythenorth> Yexo: I never got to understand them yet :) 14:22:47 <Yexo> does firs build for you at all? 14:22:47 <andythenorth> there's no single implementation, so I don't know which one to copy from ;) 14:22:50 <andythenorth> yes 14:22:52 <andythenorth> builds for me 14:22:59 <Yexo> nmlc: "sprites/nml/industries/../templates/check_availability.pnml", line 32: Unrecognized identifier 'CB_RESULT_IND_PROBABILITY_FROM_PROPERTY' encountered 14:23:53 <Yexo> nvm, I had nml 0.2 installed 14:34:17 <Yexo> andythenorth: wrt r2892, where are those sprites used? 14:34:26 <Ammler> hehe, nice to hear it happens nml dev too :-P 14:46:54 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4331 (New): Bubble start positions incorrect XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4331 14:52:49 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4331: Bubble start positions incorrect XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4331#change-11817 14:54:24 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4331: Bubble start positions incorrect XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4331#change-11817 15:06:01 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Bug #4333 (New): Swapped loaded and unloaded truck sprites XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4333 15:29:06 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Bug #4333 (Closed): Swapped loaded and unloaded truck sprites XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4333 15:29:06 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 189:daf33c6370e7: Add: power plant spark XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/daf33c6370e7 15:29:06 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 190:4aad25566459: Fix: toyland (un)load trucks swapped (Fixes #4333) XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/4aad25566459 15:29:06 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Bug #4333 (Closed): Swapped loaded and unloaded truck sprites XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4333#change-11819 15:29:37 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 0:0b71aaf0d034: Initial version XTadeuszDX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkpset/repository/revisions/0b71aaf0d034 15:29:37 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 1:47075b200a99: . XTadeuszDX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkpset/repository/revisions/47075b200a99 15:36:44 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 2:7ff1eb29f355: Cleaning... XTadeuszDX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkpset/repository/revisions/7ff1eb29f355 15:59:16 <andythenorth> Yexo: 2892 probably just works 15:59:26 <andythenorth> already there are snow sprites for that industry I think 16:02:32 <andythenorth> ah 16:02:39 <andythenorth> industry graphics work, but ground sprite is not snow 16:02:42 <andythenorth> :) 16:11:27 <Brot6> Backup firs: abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 16:31:48 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4335 (New): new user for backup push XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4335 16:34:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4335 (New): new user for backup push XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4335 16:57:49 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4337 (New): Sweet shop (sweet factory) middle sprites should be combined XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4337 16:59:53 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4339 (New): NW/SE sloped toyland sprite has wrong pattern on it XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4339 17:04:32 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4341 (New): Bubble generator sprites incorrect XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4341 17:06:06 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:16:42 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:18:47 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:21:20 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 231:66f6d32dbce1: Add: Toyland road bits (streetlamp, depot, stations). XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/66f6d32dbce1 17:21:20 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 232:39e37e1789d5: Add: Toyland rail bits (stations, depots, fences, waypoint). XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/39e37e1789d5 17:22:00 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 233:7e305fefab85: Add: Toyland water infrastructure (canals, rivers, depots, locks,... XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/7e305fefab85 17:28:46 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:28:59 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 234:fdb9d55445fd: Add: Toyland ships. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/fdb9d55445fd 18:05:49 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 235:aebc3e957e9e: Add: Toyland headquarters. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/aebc3e957e9e 18:09:12 <Brot6> zbuild: update from r55 to r58 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/nightlies/r58 18:11:48 <Brot6> firs: update from r2886 to r2897 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2897 18:49:35 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 191:0afa833bca71: Add: toyland street lights XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/0afa833bca71 18:49:36 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 192:3386d91bbb6c: Add: toyland canals/rivers XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/3386d91bbb6c 18:49:36 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 193:b96145985a9d: Add: toyland rail infra bits XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/b96145985a9d 18:49:36 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 194:473654f7d8d8: Add: toyland road depot XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/473654f7d8d8 18:49:37 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 195:546caff2764e: Merge XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/546caff2764e 18:58:27 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 196:fc8d1de986d9: Add: toyland rv and ship stations XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/fc8d1de986d9 19:10:01 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 197:5ae4916628ff: Add: toyland HQ and ships XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/5ae4916628ff 19:13:08 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 198:b1e3a5ff1b79: Add: toyland buoy XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/b1e3a5ff1b79 19:19:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2898:eb07eae1c4b9: Codechange: drawn snow graphics for Bior... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/eb07eae1c4b9 19:20:19 <Brot6> firs: update from r2897 to r2898 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2898 19:20:35 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 199:1209c487afb4: Change: use improved animated industry towers XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/1209c487afb4 19:21:06 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:25:48 <Rubidium> ~1000 sprites to go (excluding GUI) 19:28:39 <Rubidium> ~250 toyland bridges, ~130 toyland rail vehicles, ~300 snowy lock/river banks, ~70 toyland industry, ~60 tunnel overlays; the remainder are mostly small tidbits 19:31:49 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 236:59545d54e236: Add: Toyland rail wagons. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/59545d54e236 19:31:49 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 237:13ee2d5abc7d: Fix (r232): Add missing mask sprite from toyland rail fences. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/13ee2d5abc7d 19:33:34 <andythenorth> he's a sprite monster 19:33:38 <andythenorth> that man zeph 19:34:36 <Rubidium> quite a huge amount of it is pixa like work though 19:34:48 <Rubidium> still... loads of spriting work 19:34:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2899:5f47f9fdd416: Codechange: add various snow bits to var... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5f47f9fdd416 19:35:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4343 (New): Textile mill needs snow XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4343 19:35:34 <Brot6> firs: update from r2898 to r2899 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r2899 19:52:31 <Rubidium> and he'll probably be tweaking the sprites for many many many months after the first completion 19:53:17 <andythenorth> I should try this zbase thing :o 19:53:40 <andythenorth> is it on bananaanannaanas yet? 19:53:50 <Rubidium> no 19:54:02 <Rubidium> want the most up-to-date version as of now? 19:54:02 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 200:9c4d882ceb6f: Fix: wrong level crossing graphics XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/9c4d882ceb6f 19:54:02 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 201:caa3668d19c2: Add: toyland rail wagons XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/caa3668d19c2 19:54:27 <Rubidium> the devzone will happily build it in about an hour ;) 19:54:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4345 (New): Recycling Plant needs snow sprites XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4345 19:55:03 <Rubidium> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/LATEST/ <- the older version of this afternoon 19:55:22 <Rubidium> most of today's work is in toyland though 19:56:10 <andythenorth> ho 19:56:12 <andythenorth> it's big 19:56:21 <andythenorth> more mirrors will be needed :P 19:56:33 <Rubidium> ofcourse it's big 19:57:15 <Rubidium> a 4x zoom in 32bpp sprite is about 5*4*4 times as large as a 8bpp sprite 19:57:45 <Rubidium> plus a 2x and 1x adds another 5*2*2 and 5*1*1 19:58:43 <Rubidium> the 5 due to 32bpp sprites actually being 40bpp ;) 19:59:12 <Rubidium> (for the recolour masks) 19:59:27 <andythenorth> 8bpp EZ wouldn't have been enough? :P 20:00:07 <Rubidium> anyhow... that's roughly 100 times as large, but it isn't... so either the sprites are better compressable, or the sprite compression is better on larger sprites 20:01:38 * andythenorth waits for virgin media to deliver 235MB slowly 20:05:24 <Ammler> I don't think, you get more speed via bananans 20:05:48 <Rubidium> but... the it doesn't need to cross the channel ;) 20:06:31 <Ammler> well, with bad luck and 10 downloading it at same time maybe 20:08:27 <Ammler> maybe you should provide "update newgrfs" :-P 20:08:58 * Rubidium doesn't fancy the complexity 20:10:13 <andythenorth> hmm 20:10:20 <andythenorth> I prefer zbase to ogfx 20:10:28 <andythenorth> it's a bit dark, and a bit purple 20:10:47 <andythenorth> but it looks nice at 1x zoom 20:11:28 <Brot6> Backup firs: abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 20:12:12 <Ammler> andythenorth: I thought, you don't use ogfx? 20:12:17 <andythenorth> I don't 20:12:23 <andythenorth> but I have to test with it sometimes 20:12:29 <andythenorth> FIRS looks totally ridiculous with zBase :P 20:12:35 <Ammler> just wondering, ehy you compare with it 20:13:00 <Ammler> you should compare with ttd original set then 20:13:39 <andythenorth> oh that's easy 20:13:46 <andythenorth> I prefer TTD original base set 20:13:58 <Ammler> the only relation to ogfx is that it uses it for the missing sprites, afaik 20:15:00 <andythenorth> and that it's another base set 20:15:28 <Ammler> well, with ez and some more colors 20:15:45 <Rubidium> I think it'd be best that when zbase is ready it gets merged back into opengfx. Then a 8bpp and 32bpp version of OpenGFX are generated from that 20:15:46 <Ammler> and all from one hand like ttd original 20:16:40 <Ammler> Rubidium: why not keep it as another base set? 20:17:31 <Ammler> it would not be that fair to all the opengfx arthists imo 20:17:40 * andythenorth considers stealing some zBase to paint over for FIRS (to replace default industry graphics) 20:18:15 <Rubidium> Ammler: because zbase will always be ripping extra needed sprites from opengfx 20:18:33 <Rubidium> and I'd still generate two distinct base sets from the same code base 20:18:59 <Rubidium> possibly even with distinct changelogs/readmes 20:19:05 <Ammler> oh, so the final zbase won't have all sprites? 20:19:38 <Rubidium> it makes no sense to draw 32bpp fonts or mapgen sprites 20:20:09 <Ammler> ok, well, that is minor part of opengfxs 20:20:27 <Rubidium> so those will (still) be ripped from somewhere, and since opengfx is the only free source that is ripped 20:20:54 <andythenorth> the only thing I really don't like in zBase is the water 20:20:58 <andythenorth> the rest is pretty neat 20:21:08 <andythenorth> get him to colour shift everything away from magenta / blue 20:21:09 <Ammler> I would rather like to see ther other 32bpp people build a baseset with what they have 20:21:24 <andythenorth> the palette is like a rainy day in the English midlands :P 20:21:27 <andythenorth> in November 20:21:28 <Ammler> that would be more opengfx 20:22:05 <Rubidium> even in OpenGFX Zephyris is a major contributor 20:23:20 <andythenorth> I think Zeph lives in a rainy place, so the colour might figure : 20:23:40 <Ammler> anyway, is there need to decide for a default set? 20:23:54 <andythenorth> yes 20:24:03 <andythenorth> one that is ~250MB or so :P 20:24:11 <andythenorth> isn't * 20:24:54 <Rubidium> 3324 OpenGFX sprites is Zephyris alone, 4351 sprites are Zephyris+someone else; so he had his hand in 7675 20:26:45 <Ammler> I assume, andythenorth likes zbase more because of its consistency 20:27:00 <andythenorth> it's a better style 20:27:04 <andythenorth> ogfx is noisy 20:29:21 <Rubidium> or 10536 sprites; so it's safe to assume Zephyris already had a hand is over half of OpenGFX 20:29:26 <Rubidium> s/or/of/ 20:29:26 <Brot6> Rubidium meant: "of 10536 sprites; so it's safe to assume Zephyris already had a hand is over half of OpenGFX" 20:29:39 <Rubidium> shut up Brot6 20:29:45 <Rubidium> I really don't like that misfeature 20:30:40 <Ammler> Brot6: search config subst 20:30:41 <Brot6> Ammler: no results found for config subst 20:30:59 <Ammler> I have no clue about how to config brot 20:55:33 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:26:17 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 202:a9d823ba0f48: Add: some mask sprites XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/a9d823ba0f48 21:27:22 <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 59:2e9b540bbac3: Add: mostly toyland infrastructure XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/2e9b540bbac3 21:35:07 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 238:83ab6217edf0: Update: Narrow roads slightly. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/83ab6217edf0 21:36:00 <Rubidium> yay.. 1700 modified files ;) 21:41:41 <Rubidium> when you'd be pixel drawing I doubt you'd've made such a change 21:43:41 <frosch123> sounds like sed for images :) 21:44:16 <Rubidium> just change a bit in one .blend and let the rest be generated from there ;) 22:12:21 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 239:1ee492c46bf8: Add: Toyland airports (currently a straight copy of the normal ai... XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/1ee492c46bf8 22:12:21 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 240:a7b0b9a5821b: Add: Toyland bridges. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/a7b0b9a5821b 22:14:32 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 241:94ee7c07e094: Add: Toyland bus. 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