Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 21st October 2012:
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05:30:02  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3036:b1ed1dc62132: Codechange: convert glass works to use s... XandythenorthX @
05:31:07  <Brot6> firs: update from r3035 to r3036 done (3 warnings) -
06:38:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3037:e942a63dd90b: Feature: snow and fences for glass works... XandythenorthX @
06:38:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2821 (Closed): Snow graphics for Glass Works XandythenorthX @
06:39:06  <Brot6> firs: update from r3036 to r3037 done (3 warnings) -
06:43:25  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3038:a98736ccdb48: Codechange: convert recycling depot to u... XandythenorthX @
06:44:05  <Brot6> firs: update from r3037 to r3038 done (3 warnings) -
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07:19:41  <Ammler> is grf2html doesn't work anymore, right?
07:19:49  <Ammler> shall I remove or fix it?
07:20:11  <Rubidium> Ammler: please fix it ;)
07:20:38  <Rubidium> IIRC you just need to support the new container format
07:21:30  <Ammler> well, I meant "fix" the build system :-P
07:50:07  <Brot6> firs: update from r3038 to r3039 done (3 warnings) -
07:50:14  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3039:3c5203cbadcb: Feature: snow for recycling depot, also ... XandythenorthX @
07:50:14  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2754 (Closed): Recycling Depot snow sprites XandythenorthX @
07:50:46  <andythenorth> 16 industries done
07:50:56  <andythenorth> they gain snow and fences as well during the conversion
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07:57:06  <andythenorth> lo Alberth
08:18:20  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3040:78dbd9658ca2: Codechange: convert recycling plant to p... XandythenorthX @
08:18:34  <Brot6> firs: update from r3039 to r3040 done (3 warnings) -
08:21:46  <Alberth> o/
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09:05:21  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3041:845c346587d2: Codechange: convert smithy forge to stub... XandythenorthX @
09:06:23  <Brot6> firs: update from r3040 to r3041 done (3 warnings) -
09:27:25  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 6:8bf91000be0f: Fixed problem with 43A. XTadeuszDX @
09:31:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3042:77e2d1baaa6c: Feature: fences for smithy forge, also c... XandythenorthX @
09:31:51  <andythenorth> 18 industries done
09:32:16  <Rubidium> early Christmas?
09:32:29  <Brot6> firs: update from r3041 to r3042 done (3 warnings) -
09:33:01  <andythenorth> could be
09:33:06  <andythenorth> might be a snowy christmas too
09:33:27  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - pkp-2.0.4.grf XTadeuszDX @
09:34:35  * andythenorth wonders if nml will get extended to provide objects in scope - vehicles, industries etc?
09:34:53  <andythenorth> probably will happen just as I finish this conversion :P
09:39:46  <Terkhen> it doesn't have PARENT already?
09:41:48  <andythenorth> in scope during the generation step
09:41:55  <andythenorth> rather than in scope for runtime
09:42:01  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3043:f4a61c711736: Codechange: convert textile mill to stub... XandythenorthX @
09:42:04  <andythenorth> compile time objects
09:42:49  <Brot6> firs: update from r3042 to r3043 done (3 warnings) -
09:43:07  <Terkhen> oh, I see
09:46:22  <andythenorth> :)
09:46:41  <andythenorth> no idea how it would be done
09:46:48  <andythenorth> other than writing raw python into templates
09:47:08  <andythenorth> with some kind of $notation
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10:05:18  <andythenorth> ('leisure', 'children')[self.age > 32]
10:54:12  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3044:268ae6cb3e99: Feature: snow and fences for textile mil... XandythenorthX @
10:54:12  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4343 (Closed): Textile mill needs snow XandythenorthX @
10:54:47  <andythenorth> 19 done :P
10:55:13  <frosch123> number of children?
10:55:17  <Brot6> firs: update from r3043 to r3044 done (3 warnings) -
10:56:49  <andythenorth> :P
11:17:03  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3045:67dae320cb33: Codechange: convert fishing grounds to s... XandythenorthX @
11:17:48  <Brot6> firs: update from r3044 to r3045 done (3 warnings) -
11:18:04  <Rubidium> oh... fishing grounds with fences and snow?
11:18:22  <andythenorth> yes
11:18:32  <andythenorth> I thought it would be nice
11:18:47  <andythenorth> the snow only appears when the sea is frozen though
11:26:36  <V453000> when does that occur? :o
11:31:54  <andythenorth> you have to have a special patch
11:34:36  <Rubidium> when Hell, CA freezes over?
11:34:56  <andythenorth> yes
11:44:09  <andythenorth> could have icebreakers and crap though
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12:01:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3046:fd0d9f140942: Codechange: sugar refinery uses stub of ... XandythenorthX @
12:02:02  <Brot6> firs: update from r3045 to r3046 done (3 warnings) -
12:28:37  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3047:1bc1e024807b: Feature: snow and fences for sugar refin... XandythenorthX @
12:28:37  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1804 (Closed): Sugar Refinery needs snow graphics XandythenorthX @
12:28:45  <andythenorth> nother one done
12:28:47  <andythenorth> nother one down
12:28:51  <andythenorth> nother one bites the dust
12:29:34  <Brot6> firs: update from r3046 to r3047 done (3 warnings) -
12:31:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3048:b7a3c18f0e72: Codechange: stockyard uses stub of pytho... XandythenorthX @
12:32:43  <Brot6> firs: update from r3047 to r3048 done (3 warnings) -
13:43:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3049:474bfcbe1d87: Feature: fences and snow for stockyard, ... XandythenorthX @
13:43:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2753 (Closed): Stockyard snow sprites XandythenorthX @
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14:42:48  <Yexo> is anyone responsible for merging firs translations?
14:43:05  <Yexo> if not I'll merge french (forum topic) and hungarian (issue tracker)
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15:04:10  <Alberth> no, everybody does that ad-hoc, you may want to warn andy about it though, given his commit spree :)
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15:05:13  <Yexo> andy is usually on irc when he does any work
15:07:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3050:95ec97688922: Update: french translation (OilTTD) XyexoX @
15:07:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3051:1f1b6023793b: Update #4281: hungarian translation (Bru... XyexoX @
15:07:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4281 (Closed): Hungarian translation update XyexoX @
15:08:17  <Brot6> firs: update from r3049 to r3051 done (3 warnings) -
15:08:59  <Alberth> true, but he may not expect the repo to get updates :)
15:09:21  <Alberth> let's warn him when he gets online again
15:09:40  <Yexo> he knows how to merge, but sure :)
15:17:20  <Ammler> he likes complicated merges :-P
15:20:48  <Ammler> how does openttd wt handle outdated but still ok in the translation?
15:21:45  <Yexo> just show them, but they're marked in the webtranslator as outdated
15:22:11  <Yexo> if an english strings changes in a non-backwards compatible way (adding/removing parameters), all translations are removed from the repo
15:22:12  <Ammler> so doesn't have a reviewed option either?
15:22:23  <Yexo> is does have that option in the webtranslator
15:22:46  <Yexo> that's independent from the repo, you can't tell that status from the files in svn
15:22:48  <Ammler> so an additional db to the language files?
15:23:06  <Alberth> actually, the db of the WT application :p
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15:52:32  <Yexo> andythenorth: pushed some language updates, so please pull before you continue working on firs
15:53:33  <andythenorth> done, thanks for the tip ;)
15:56:57  <Yexo> do you plan to work on the fruit plantation?
15:57:04  <Yexo> ie issue #3352?
15:57:22  <Yexo> if not I'll take a stab at updating (parts of) it so more readable code
15:58:58  <andythenorth> let me look
15:59:24  <andythenorth> ho ho
15:59:32  <andythenorth> what a lot of spritelayouts it has :)
15:59:52  <Yexo> hence the need to clean it up
16:00:11  <andythenorth> well....spritesets and spritelayouts are the main thing being moved to python templating... ;)
16:00:57  <Yexo> I could do that too, would be nice to learn that part of firs too
16:01:34  <andythenorth> great :)
16:01:35  <andythenorth> then it won't just be me...
16:01:47  <andythenorth> I only have one spritelayout template so far
16:01:51  <andythenorth> it isn't slope aware
16:01:59  <andythenorth> it works for all other common industry situations so far though
16:02:01  <andythenorth> :)
16:05:52  <Yexo> andythenorth: if you used ${structure: industry.get_spritesets()} instead of ${industry.get_spritesets()} you get unescaped output (untested, from documentation)
16:06:12  <andythenorth> brb
16:10:48  <andythenorth> Yexo: structure might work, it's the standard way to include html in a template.  Didn't think of using it :m
16:10:49  <Ammler> andythenorth: you should add Chameleon to the readme, section compiling
16:10:55  <andythenorth> yes I should
16:11:16  <andythenorth> got some baby nappy maintenance here right now
16:11:39  <andythenorth> Yexo: I'm kind of around if you have questions :)
16:12:11  <andythenorth> I decided to duck-tape code it and not discuss too much, albert* had a bit of a code review and thought it was ok
16:12:38  <Ammler> is it safe to use newest Chameleon always?
16:13:03  <andythenorth> probably
16:13:15  <andythenorth> only one way to find out ;)
16:13:49  <andythenorth> there's a lot of production web app code relying on it, big changes aren't likely, at least would be a major version I think
16:30:27  <Ammler> devzone Chameleon at 2.10 :-)
16:32:19  <andythenorth> sounds fine :)
16:46:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3052:56d5eaa3435c: Codechange: convert sheep farm to stub o... XandythenorthX @
16:46:50  <Brot6> firs: update from r3051 to r3052 done (3 warnings) -
17:19:41  <Brot6> firs: update from r3022 to r3052 done (3 warnings) -
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18:42:28  <andythenorth> Yexo: what does this line mean?  [sheep farm]
18:42:28  <andythenorth> switch(FEAT_INDUSTRYTILES, SELF, THIS_ID(tile1_layout), STORE_TEMP((var[0x7E, 0, 255, 161] + var[0x7E, 0, 255, 65]), 16)) {
18:43:19  <andythenorth> actually I should go visit the spec shouldn't I :P
18:43:23  <Yexo> 7E means a prodedure call, which is not supported by nml
18:43:31  <andythenorth> interesting
18:43:41  <Yexo> that's still from the automatic conversion
18:43:43  <andythenorth> remnant of automated conversion?
18:43:45  <andythenorth> ah
18:43:51  <andythenorth> I'll can it
18:43:53  <andythenorth> can't be needed
18:43:54  <andythenorth> :)
18:44:02  <Yexo> the 161 and 65 are the act2 ids to call, those are now 'random'
18:44:37  * andythenorth wonders what it was doing
18:44:45  <andythenorth> maybe fences or slopes or foundations or something
18:45:02  <Yexo> currently it stores the value in temp variable 16, but there doesn't seem to be anything reading that var
18:45:42  <andythenorth> legacy stuff
18:45:42  <andythenorth> can't even look in the nfo :)
18:46:11  <Yexo> look at it from another point: you don't have to look at the nfo, you can just delete it :)
18:46:24  <andythenorth> done
18:49:10  <Ammler> @topic add moving bundles & dev to haydn (again :-P)
18:49:17  <Ammler> @services op
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18:49:19  <Ammler> @topic add moving bundles & dev to haydn (again :-P)
18:49:19  *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on | Downloads log: | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames | moving bundles & dev to haydn (again :-P)"
18:49:37  <Ammler> @undo
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18:49:40  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3053:0ed1770c0d23: Codechange: completed conversion to pyth... XandythenorthX @
18:49:42  <Rubidium> see... the Italians can''t be trusted ;)
18:50:01  <Ammler> @topic add moving bundles & dev to (again :-P)
18:50:01  *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on | Downloads log: | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames | moving bundles & dev to (again :-P)"
18:50:37  <Brot6> firs: update from r3052 to r3053 done (3 warnings) -
18:53:49  <Yexo> andythenorth: I just took a quick look in the nfo code and it was there to compute the ground sprite
18:54:04  <andythenorth> ho
18:54:05  <Yexo> so I guess it has been deprecated long ago by the spritelayout templates
18:54:08  <andythenorth> well we have that sorted :)
18:54:41  <andythenorth> ha
18:54:45  <andythenorth> the quarry has 53 spritesets
18:54:52  <andythenorth> I don't fancy the manual conversion of those :P
18:55:01  * andythenorth wonders if conversions could be automated :P
18:56:23  <andythenorth> is python readline my friend?
19:03:56  <Alberth> for reading from file?  no
19:04:34  <Alberth> you can iterate over the file handle directly
19:05:39  <andythenorth> k ta
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19:06:41  <andythenorth> I want to identify nml spritesets and convert them to python code
19:07:22  <andythenorth> nml probably has a module to do that I guess? :P
19:08:08  <Yexo> of course, just use *.py as output file
19:08:17  <Yexo> don't forget to write the output_py module first :p
19:09:54  <andythenorth> :)
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19:10:20  <andythenorth> so...convert nml to python, in order to write nml....
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19:13:35  <andythenorth> I figure the 53 spritesets for the quarry are another remnant of automated conversion
19:15:34  <Alberth> so you make FIRS smaller rather than larger :p
19:17:42  <andythenorth> dunno :)
19:18:17  <andythenorth> I'm adding spritesheets
19:18:22  <andythenorth> so larger ;)
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19:47:24  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3054:7fa17ee8181d: Codechange: plastics plant uses stub of ... XandythenorthX @
19:49:31  <Brot6> firs: update from r3053 to r3054 done (3 warnings) -
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20:21:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3055:625e23175261: Change: provide a default snow ground ti... XandythenorthX @
20:23:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3056:a2abc738df65: Fix: missing tile at stockyard XandythenorthX @
20:23:22  <Brot6> firs: update from r3054 to r3055 done (3 warnings) -
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20:30:30  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3057:3378bd269c0d: Fix: don't show some fences at stockyard XandythenorthX @
20:32:10  <Brot6> firs: update from r3056 to r3057 done (3 warnings) -
20:43:42  <andythenorth> 25.5 industries left to convert o_O
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20:43:49  <andythenorth> good night
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