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00:07:46 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 992:fc4077bb46bb: Add: [Makefile] Version check for NML version XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/fc4077bb46bb 00:08:28 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 993:701353f7d30b: Add: GUI sprites for delete buttons introduced in OpenTTD r2474... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/701353f7d30b 00:12:29 *** Zuu has quit IRC 00:13:48 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:28:59 *** Zuu has quit IRC 02:00:26 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:21:54 *** Zuu has quit IRC 08:51:02 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:08:03 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 16:18:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4574 (New): Convert Machine Shop to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4574 16:18:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4577 (New): Convert Lime Kiln to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4577 16:19:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4580 (New): Convert Aluminium Plant to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4580 16:19:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4583 (New): Convert Brick Works to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4583 16:19:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4586 (New): Convert Cement Plant to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4586 16:20:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4589 (New): Convert Fertiliser Plant to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4589 16:20:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4592 (New): Convert Furniture Factory to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4592 16:20:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4595 (New): Convert Iron Works to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4595 16:21:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4598 (New): Convert Metal Workshop to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4598 16:21:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4601 (New): Convert Metal Fab. Plant to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4601 16:22:35 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4604 (New): Convert Dairy to python templates XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4604 16:30:19 <Ammler> could this be useful: http://firs.openttdcoop.org/ http://nml.openttdcoop.org/issues etc... 17:06:36 <Yexo> I really don't care about the current urls, but it doesn't really matter 17:06:56 <Yexo> current urls are fine, if you want to change it that's fine too 17:07:54 <Yexo> although right now http://nml.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs is a list of firs issues, which is strange 17:08:02 <Yexo> I meant http://nml.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/issues 17:08:36 <Brot6> nml: update from r2048 to r2049 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r2049 17:23:02 <planetmaker> nah, I think we should simply keep the existing URLs 17:23:15 <planetmaker> dev.openttdcoop.org/projectname is easy to remember. And it works 17:24:01 <planetmaker> apropos, yexo, we might need an NML release soon, at least of the 0.2 branch in order to build OpenGFX 17:24:24 <Ammler> that does not work, I don't think could get that working 17:25:17 <Ammler> Yexo: I did not setup it proper, I drop it 17:25:27 <planetmaker> ah, well. dev.o.o/projects/projectname then. That's good enough 17:26:41 <planetmaker> Yexo, I already made the necessary commits. So it "just" would need amending changelog (I forgot that) and releasing 17:27:53 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r990 to r993 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r993 17:29:44 <Ammler> I changed it to a redirect, <sub>.o.o -> dev.o.o/p/<sub> 17:30:49 <planetmaker> Ammler, and when I create a project "ps" ? 17:30:54 <planetmaker> or "www"? 17:30:57 <Ammler> try it :-P 17:31:00 <planetmaker> or even "dev"? 17:31:59 <Ammler> the proxy does not know, which projects exist 17:32:08 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: rebuild of r133 done (Diffsize: 56343) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/r133/log 17:32:17 <Ammler> it does simply redirect all unknown subdomains 17:32:18 <planetmaker> Ammler, do you know the answer? If not, I'm not a fan of these rewrite rules 17:32:35 <planetmaker> it introduces again a new kind of URL. And I'm rather a fan of stable URLs than fancy ones 17:32:41 <Brot6> dutchtrains: rebuild of r637 done (Diffsize: 889) (DiffDiffsize: 13) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtrains/nightlies/r637/log 17:32:55 <Ammler> I already dopped it 17:34:09 <planetmaker> thank you 17:42:02 <Brot6> ogfx-trains: rebuild of r695 done (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 53909) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/nightlies/r695/log 17:42:39 <Brot6> bandit: rebuild of r553 done (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 8194) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/r553/log 17:42:51 <Brot6> metrotrackset: rebuild of r107 done (Diffsize: 5275) (DiffDiffsize: 13) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/metrotrackset/nightlies/r107/log 17:43:10 <Brot6> swedishrails: rebuild of r249 done (Diffsize: 1325) (DiffDiffsize: 15) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r249/log 17:54:22 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:19:21 *** ODM has quit IRC 18:34:50 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:58:53 <Brot6> debugveh: rebuild of r10 done (Diffsize: 991) (DiffDiffsize: 7) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/debugveh/nightlies/r10/log 18:59:04 <Brot6> uselesstracks: rebuild of r18 done (Diffsize: 751) (DiffDiffsize: 15) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/uselesstracks/nightlies/r18/log 18:59:17 <Brot6> german-townnames: rebuild of r35 done (Diffsize: 40) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/german-townnames/nightlies/r35/log 18:59:36 <Brot6> spanishtowns: rebuild of r10 done (Diffsize: 9) (DiffDiffsize: 9) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/spanishtowns/nightlies/r10/log 19:00:52 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:01:00 <Yexo> planetmaker: the NML release is required because of the version number? 19:01:21 <Yexo> issue #4460 is still open, r2044 is not yet backported 19:01:21 <Brot6> Yexo: #4460 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4460 "Bug #4460: Revisions to be backported to 0.2 branch - NewGRF Meta Language - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:02:13 <Brot6> britrains: rebuild of r45 done (7 warnings) (Diffsize: 133516) (DiffDiffsize: 15) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/nightlies/r45/log 19:02:17 <Yexo> oh, nevermind, it's needed because of the two new GUI sprites of course 19:02:31 <Yexo> is a new OpenGFX release already planned for some date? 19:02:40 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:02:58 <Brot6> dutchtracks: rebuild of r104 done (Diffsize: 3) (DiffDiffsize: 6) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtracks/nightlies/r104/log 19:04:39 <Ammler> Yexo: don't think you need to backport for opengfx anymore... 19:05:19 <Yexo> Ammler: what do you mean? 19:05:39 <Yexo> that a release is not required for OpenGFX or that all necesary changes are already backported? 19:05:58 <Brot6> dutchroadfurniture: rebuild of r145 done (Diffsize: 44014) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchroadfurniture/nightlies/r145/log 19:07:32 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/fc4077bb46bb/diff <-- Yexo, opengfx needs 0.3 now 19:07:45 <Brot6> airportsplus: rebuild of r171 done (Diffsize: 96784) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/r171/log 19:08:02 <Yexo> Ammler: planetmaker has already backported the relevant commit to the 0.2 branch 19:08:34 <Ammler> ok, then I am confused :-) 19:13:26 <Brot6> ogfx-rv: rebuild of r163 done (Diffsize: 2042) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-rv/nightlies/r163/log 19:15:25 <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: rebuild of r113 done (Diffsize: 8789) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/r113/log 19:15:54 <Brot6> friss: rebuild of r43 done (Diffsize: 3324) (DiffDiffsize: 16) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/friss/nightlies/r43/log 19:16:22 <Brot6> indonesiantowns: rebuild of r41 done (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 10) (DiffDiffsize: 12) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/indonesiantowns/nightlies/r41/log 19:16:27 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: cets (122 warnings) (Diffsize: 2), manindu (Diffsize: 1), canrail, zbuild, firs, make-nml, belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 72), frenchtowns, fish (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 2), swisstowns (Diffsize: 51), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 1) 19:51:32 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4607 (New): Oil Rigs won't build XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4607 19:53:45 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:55:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:14:33 <planetmaker> Ammler, please differ between default branch and stable branch :-) 21:14:42 <planetmaker> default branch needs NML 0.3.0. Stable branch 0.2.0 21:15:32 <planetmaker> but I didn't yet port the change to OpenGFX' stable branch. I didn't have a windows palette at hand yesterday evening and I was too tired to search 21:16:36 <planetmaker> or at least I didn't yet push the changes to OpenGFX 0.4 branch... all but correctly paletted image file is done 21:18:22 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:18:38 <planetmaker> actually I thought whether I need an NML_MAX_VERSION... I guess I even might need it for the stable branch 21:18:43 <planetmaker> of OpenGFX 21:19:34 <planetmaker> or, alternatively and possibly "better", I just assume that the minor version of NML defines compatibility 21:25:42 <Ammler> well, who needs opengfx with grfv7? 21:25:53 <Ammler> with the new gui element that is 21:27:04 <Ammler> or did you add other things to it? 21:29:47 <planetmaker> no, I didn't 21:30:27 <planetmaker> well, you're right, no-one really needs it. Except those who (also) use old OpenGFX maybe 21:42:05 <Ammler> do you speak about nml or ogfx now :-P 21:42:44 <planetmaker> NML has the change in both branches. That's "done" wrt the new GUI sprites 21:42:51 <planetmaker> OpenGFX has it so far only in default 21:43:20 <planetmaker> But people who use (also) older OpenTTD might want to use a grf v7 OpenGFX (e.g. ChillPP or so) 21:43:40 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:44:00 <Ammler> we, but the new opengfx would be useless for them anyway, there is no change except the gui 21:44:21 <Ammler> which they can't use 21:45:18 <planetmaker> yes. But they need it when they play 1.2.0 or trunk openttd 21:45:27 <planetmaker> there are lots of people who use more than one version 21:46:43 <Ammler> ah ok, so openttd wouldn't be able to load the older version, if both are installed? 21:47:08 <Ammler> doesn't it have a max_version? 21:47:23 <planetmaker> openttd likely would pick the right one, yes 21:48:14 <Ammler> well, you know it, I just again try without success to make your life easier :-P 21:49:09 <planetmaker> I know 21:50:03 <planetmaker> But there's currently also no gain for the users being supplied with the grf v8 one. And grf v8 is still too young (less than a year) that I want to phase out grf v7 22:14:01 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 994:3131dd02a6aa: Add: [Makefile] Version check for NML version XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/3131dd02a6aa 22:14:01 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 995:e63cce5b3090: Add: GUI sprites for delete buttons introduced in OpenTTD r2474... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/e63cce5b3090 22:21:42 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4610 (New): "Prevent industries opening during gameplay": no in... XoberhuemerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4610 22:36:12 <planetmaker> yexo, would you mind if I do another NML 0.2.x release this weekend or so? 22:36:29 <planetmaker> I'd like to have a working OpenGFX. And possibly also a working zBase 22:58:23 <Yexo> planetmaker: as before: there is an open issue and one backport pending 22:58:34 <Yexo> is there any reason to release opengfx now? 22:59:23 <Yexo> wouldn't it make more sense to wait until just before openttd 1.3? 23:00:04 <Yexo> I'm a bit afraid in two weeks someone adds a sprite to openttd and it'll need yet another nml release just to make a new opengfx release 23:00:15 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 246:c0252dda639f: Add: [Makefile] Version check for NML version XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/c0252dda639f 23:00:15 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 247:d8ebc1f2ef2b: Add: GUI sprites for delete buttons introduced in OpenTTD r2... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/d8ebc1f2ef2b 23:00:15 <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 248:1d25ef2057dc: Fix: [Makefile] Also ignore the tar bundle XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/1d25ef2057dc 23:02:24 <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 74:9563b250f64e: Update: zbasebuild and opengfx to make use of sprites for delete ... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/9563b250f64e 23:02:36 <planetmaker> Yexo, yes, that *might* happen. But... does it hurt? 23:03:12 <Yexo> I guess not really 23:03:17 <planetmaker> Yexo, I find it quite detrimental and annoying that without that the only base set which works out-of-box for nightlies will be the TTD one 23:03:47 <Yexo> ah, you don't want to create OpenGFX 0.5 yet? 23:03:59 <planetmaker> it would be another 0.4.x 23:04:07 <planetmaker> no reason really to release 0.5 23:04:11 <planetmaker> yet 23:04:22 <planetmaker> that's for openttd 1.3. Even if it should not be much different 23:04:56 <planetmaker> and no, I don't want NML 0.3.0. Just 0.2.5 :-) 23:05:21 <Yexo> that seems to conflict with the desire to update 0.4 now for the nightlies, since that's essentially for openttd 1.3 23:05:23 <planetmaker> OpenGFX 0.5.0 would also need NML 0.3.0 23:05:32 <Yexo> but ok :) 23:06:09 <Yexo> it's fine with me, just as long as the one standing bug-fix is also backported to nml 0.2 23:06:14 <planetmaker> yes... true. Only nightlies need it... we could wait. But... meh... will there be a new gui sprite soonish? Then I've no issue with delaying it 23:06:38 <Yexo> I don't think there are any plans for it 23:06:46 <Yexo> but then I didn't see this one coming either, so who knows 23:07:03 <Yexo> lets just make it this weekend 23:07:22 <planetmaker> ok 23:07:29 <planetmaker> tonight is too late anyway 23:07:35 <planetmaker> I just updated zBase, too 23:09:16 <Yexo> good night :) 23:09:18 <Ammler> you do not necessary need a release, distos don't package it 23:09:41 <Yexo> Ammler: distro's aren't the only reason to make a release 23:09:52 <Yexo> just wanting to upload a new version to bananas could be a good enough reason for a release 23:10:05 <planetmaker> Yexo, I see the problem with the "yet another release". But otoh, I think we bought this issue when we switched opengfx (and zbase) to NML. grfcodec after all also needs an update. And a release for at least 1.3.0-beta1 23:10:08 <Ammler> yep, that would not need a release, would it? 23:10:34 <Ammler> jst saying... :-) 23:10:48 <planetmaker> Ammler, also our CF wouldn't build it correctly, would it? 23:10:57 <planetmaker> as it requires nml-stable 23:11:40 <Ammler> does it, it will just through a warning but the grfs works, doesn't? 23:12:05 <Ammler> well, that was what you said last time :-) 23:13:02 <Ammler> the cf build errored because of me, not because of the missing gui in nml 23:14:35 <Ammler> the current opengfx is also built with the old version 23:14:44 <planetmaker> hm. maybe that works 23:15:13 <Brot6> GRFCodec / NFORenum - Revision 948:53e83b36ef76: -Change: sprite count for Action 5 type 15. XyexoX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/53e83b36ef76 23:15:21 <Ammler> a working nml and opengfx would then be needed for openttd 1.3 beta 23:15:25 <Yexo> thanks for reminding me :) 23:15:34 <planetmaker> he :-) 23:16:24 <Yexo> if opengfx could be build with just a warning from NML I'd rather wait with nml 0.2.5 to just before the 1.3 beta, considering you might want a last opengfx 0.4 at that time perhaps? 23:16:53 <planetmaker> yes, I definitely want one last one 23:17:23 <planetmaker> quite frankly, there's only so few stuff new, that a 0.5 release is... quite bold :-) 23:17:46 <Yexo> what is new? 23:17:52 <Ammler> well, the last opengfx should have been 0.5 already 23:17:56 <Yexo> is there any changelog except the repo history? 23:18:13 <Ammler> would be easier to get that it is not needed for 1.2 23:18:25 <planetmaker> for default branch, I'm afraid, not 23:18:42 <Ammler> gui changes are very essential imo 23:19:01 <Ammler> the red box I mean 23:19:12 <planetmaker> yes, they are essential 23:19:18 <Yexo> a 0.5 release can be easily justified: it wants to use new tools (nml 0.3), so becomes incompatible with openttd 1.1 and older (and chills pp), so a new minor version 23:19:35 <planetmaker> true. And removal of a lot of old cruft 23:19:42 <Ammler> that is more as just bugfix :-P 23:19:44 <planetmaker> like the override sprite(s) etc 23:20:19 <planetmaker> but possibly I should remove the only 32bpp sprites from opengfx again, the explosion... zbase now is 32bpp 23:20:21 <Yexo> and it gives a good reason to stop updating the 0.4 branch after that :) 23:20:42 <Yexo> if the explosion is the only sprite then yes, I think you should consider removing it 23:21:02 <Yexo> but not from the 0.4 branch, no reason to change that one 23:21:04 <Ammler> the exploision is just in the source, isn't? 23:21:08 <planetmaker> yes. Though I might make another 0.4 just before 1.3. Then it's one year officially with grf v8. And people then playing with last stable can also use grf v8 23:21:30 <planetmaker> it is not in 0.4 branch. Just default. IIRC 23:21:47 <Yexo> planetmaker: I was assuming one last 0.4 release just before openttd 1.3, that would coincide with a (most likely last) nml 0.2 release 23:21:51 <Ammler> could also be nice to have still compatible v7 for 1.3 23:22:12 <planetmaker> that makes sense, Yexo. And you mean 1.3. Not 1.3.0-beta1, right? 23:22:15 <Yexo> Ammler: if the version is made just before the 1.3 beta it'll be compatible with 1.3 23:22:34 <Yexo> I was thinking of beta1, but could be before the final (or before the branch maybe?) 23:23:02 <planetmaker> possibly that, yes. But really depends on activity / need, I'd say. 23:23:15 <Yexo> yes 23:23:33 <Yexo> I want nml 0.3.0 definitely before openttd 1.3.0-beta1 23:23:38 <planetmaker> :-) 23:23:51 <Yexo> going to send a forum pm to Hirundo now 23:23:51 <Ammler> and you will make a opengfx release then too? 23:24:00 <planetmaker> anyway, if opengfx builds w/o nml update and release, I'll just release it this way 23:24:26 <planetmaker> though... might need to look at min revision. and disable that (again) 23:25:23 <Yexo> if it needs nml 0.2.5, we can release it this weekend, if not: all the better 23:25:42 <planetmaker> agreed. I shall check that tomorrow 23:27:58 *** Zuu has quit IRC 23:30:21 <Yexo> again, good night :) 23:30:38 <planetmaker> yup, good night now indeed :-) 23:31:25 <Ammler> planetmaker: are you done with opengfx 0.4, I might clone it and test it before you make the release 23:31:32 <Ammler> just to be sure the branch works now 23:31:47 <Ammler> or you could 23:32:05 <planetmaker> please go ahead. I think you might need to revert the version check. I won't test the next 16 hours 23:32:33 <planetmaker> as... -> bed. So good night indeed 23:33:42 <Ammler> ok, test is running... 23:36:46 <Ammler> oh, queue 23:36:48 <Ammler> there is zbase 23:37:57 <Ammler> so it be half past one :-P