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But why would I care? 10:26:42 <V453000> and his newgrfs are good, would be a shame not to use them 10:27:00 <planetmaker> yes. Obviously he doesn't want us to use them, though 10:27:09 <planetmaker> So, really, no 10:27:36 <planetmaker> There is a solution which everyone can use without hassle. 10:27:49 <planetmaker> And it's not like I need to kiss his ass 10:28:06 <V453000> yes ofci totally dont agree with his approach 10:28:58 <Ammler> well, afaik also if he would like to upload his newgrfs, he can't. Rubi banned him 10:29:26 <planetmaker> Ammler, he would just have to say a word 10:29:27 <V453000> what? 10:29:53 <planetmaker> the illegally uploaded grfs are of course banned. Which would need unbanning as nearly every of his grfs has been uploaded illegally so far 10:30:31 <V453000> with all this wtf going on i doubt he will come to kissyour ass either to get unbanned 10:30:42 <planetmaker> V453000, *he* is not banned 10:30:49 <Ammler> his newgrfs are 10:30:55 <planetmaker> But he *asked* us to remove *his* grfs which *others* uploaded 10:31:26 <V453000> hm 10:31:34 <V453000> i see 10:31:41 <planetmaker> *HE* filed a take-down notice to ALL of our mirrors 10:31:50 <planetmaker> so no. Really, no 10:32:18 <planetmaker> I withdraw support for the server, if we update the grfpack with his newgrfs 10:32:29 <Ammler> well, if "someone" would like to update the grfpack, I would not mind, we just might not do it ourself. :-) 10:32:37 <planetmaker> and I mean our root server 10:32:40 <V453000> i cant say i care about him,just his newgrfs 10:33:21 <planetmaker> He tried to shut down OpenTTD the hard way. Legally 10:33:25 <planetmaker> So really, no 10:33:34 <Ammler> oh :-o 10:33:38 <Ammler> ok didn't knw 10:33:41 <V453000> how? 10:33:43 <planetmaker> digital millenium take down notice 10:33:48 <planetmaker> to all mirrors. As said 10:33:55 <planetmaker> as *some* asshole uploaded his newgrf 10:34:03 <planetmaker> and we didn't respond within 12 hours 10:34:14 <planetmaker> during a night or so 10:34:25 <planetmaker> which is *less* than even US laws allow for response 10:34:30 <Ammler> hehe, like he is that fast :-) 10:34:35 <planetmaker> exactly 10:36:21 <Ammler> well, the strange thing is, his "license" would allow distributing it via bananas, also uploaded by someone else 10:36:23 <planetmaker> Thus, either he is welcome to use bananas. But I will not give additional support with *my* money 10:36:25 <V453000> :d wow 10:36:48 <V453000> ok i agree 10:37:44 <Ammler> so again, you as the official openttd guys made it wrong 10:38:01 <planetmaker> we made it wrong? 10:38:47 <Ammler> you did notghiing illegal, you should not have to knee on his blames 10:38:54 <planetmaker> exactly. 10:39:06 <Ammler> but you did, like you did with SAC 10:39:13 <planetmaker> But providers are obliged to react within 48 hours, if the take-down notice is not responded to 10:39:47 <planetmaker> and you have to *prove* that you took all reasonable means to be right. Not the one who carelessly sends out take-down notices 10:40:27 <Ammler> so if ISP is in doubt, they simply shutdown it? 10:40:49 <planetmaker> yes. They need. By law 10:40:50 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:41:03 <planetmaker> Or *they* would be eligible to pay copyright compensation 10:41:52 <Ammler> well, but they would inform you first and give you time, right? 10:41:55 <planetmaker> that's the totally fucked-up copyright laws 10:42:17 <planetmaker> one doesn't have to prove to be copyright holder. One can just claim. Then first shut-down. Then things will be looked at. Then maybe you get online again 10:42:23 <planetmaker> Ammler, no 10:42:32 <planetmaker> Not necessarily 10:42:55 <Ammler> ok, like google did with openttd app 10:42:58 <planetmaker> exactly 10:43:33 <planetmaker> back in an hour... just forgot something in store :S 10:44:35 <V453000> cya :) 10:45:49 <V453000> Ammler: in what mood is the mysql? :) 11:19:57 <Ammler> V453000: http://nuts.openttdcoop.org up 11:20:17 <Ammler> I need to setup the redirect for the old id 11:24:18 <V453000> is the old id needed? i am just fine with having one project :p 11:24:37 <V453000> ur-trains can go 11:24:55 <Ammler> it is gone 11:25:22 <Ammler> I just have setup a forward, that was no big deal :-P 11:25:32 <Ammler> setup mysql access was the hard part :-) 11:26:19 <V453000> :))) thanks! 11:26:32 <Ammler> so then, I wish you a nice christmas If I am not back again :-) 11:28:41 <V453000> same to you :) And thanks for your present :P I might have presents after the new year in form of severe nuttage 11:59:31 <planetmaker> bah... really full stores :D And just in time. But now... there can be pears with hot chocolate :D 12:01:09 <V453000> I dont even dare going to shops :D 12:01:27 <planetmaker> rightfully :D 12:02:46 <V453000> even during the last week it was bad,but not just traffic-wise. especially terrible was how everybody was stressed, angry and rather agresive. Christmas days of peace my ass 12:04:32 <planetmaker> tell me about it, yes :D But it was the only week I could get Christmas presents :S 12:04:47 <V453000> exactly 12:05:13 <V453000> I was done within like 2 hours or less luckily 12:06:09 <planetmaker> :-) 12:12:41 <planetmaker> Ammler, I cannot reproduce locally the OpenGFX error. 12:13:06 <planetmaker> oh, or was that r996? 12:32:25 *** Zuu has quit IRC 12:38:52 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 997:4ab4f67066bf: Change: Update man png files which are re-generated differently XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/4ab4f67066bf 12:38:52 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 998:4066fc4b5b16: Doc: Update changelog XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/4066fc4b5b16 12:42:40 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 999:ab257eb33ef8: Added tag 0.4.6 for changeset 4066fc4b5b16 XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/ab257eb33ef8 12:42:40 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4703 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4703 12:43:23 <planetmaker> oh, how fantastic 12:43:27 <planetmaker> Ammler, ^ 12:43:36 <planetmaker> Ammler, #4703 seems like you could solve it 12:48:16 <Brot6> opengfx: compile of r999 still failed (#4628) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r999 12:50:02 <planetmaker> hm. and #4628 is for ammler, too, I guess. Though I thought it was fixed? 16:20:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3295:6431b00d9680: Fix: set cargo_multiplier property corre... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6431b00d9680 16:20:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3296:ecab3e3c0c9d: Docs: update changelog preparatory to 0.... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ecab3e3c0c9d 16:22:16 <Brot6> firs: update from r3293 to r3296 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3296 16:27:35 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3297:eb2f7ac1aa60: Added tag 0.8.1 for changeset ecab3e3c0c... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/eb2f7ac1aa60 16:28:12 <Brot6> firs: update from 0.8.0 to 0.8.1 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/0.8.1 16:57:38 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4703: DevZone compile failed XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4703#change-12746 16:58:36 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4628 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4628 16:58:36 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4628 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4628#change-12749 17:16:39 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 1000:ce5503200c64: Doc: Update changelog XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/ce5503200c64 17:22:43 <Brot6> opengfx: compile of r1000 still failed (#4628) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r1000 17:24:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3298:034742266bdb: Docs: update changelog for 0.8.2 release XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/034742266bdb 17:25:55 <Brot6> firs: update from r3296 to r3298 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3298 17:30:57 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3299:df943749d11f: Added tag 0.8.2 for changeset 034742266b... 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