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08:29:35 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 17:16:58 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:18:14 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:29:02 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:29:08 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:06:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:07:08 <Alberth> hi andy 20:25:01 <andythenorth> lo 20:25:07 * andythenorth cleaning up sick 20:25:57 <Ammler> Alberth: andythenorth, as already said, we could supply you a vps for running the translator server 20:26:16 <Ammler> just tell me, what you would need 20:27:01 <Alberth> didn't planet maker already started something in this direction? 20:27:31 <Alberth> my biggest problem is what to do with users 20:27:34 <Ammler> yes, like telling me about 20:27:54 <Ammler> but there is no server yet, afaik 20:27:58 <Alberth> k 20:28:08 <Alberth> no problem, we're not ready yet :p 20:28:27 <Ammler> well, you could also use for developing 20:28:28 <frosch123> does the devzone use ldap? 20:28:35 <Ammler> no 20:28:54 <frosch123> hmm, would have been an easy answer for albert :) 20:29:06 <Alberth> I am quite convinced the user administration is not useful yet 20:29:22 <Alberth> frosch123: well, that's part of the problem 20:29:22 <Ammler> well, ldap might make sense anyway 20:29:50 <andythenorth> I can't help with user stuff :( 20:29:57 <andythenorth> it's one area of apps I stay out of 20:29:58 <Alberth> I have basic authentication enabled (although for now it accepts everything) 20:30:01 <Ammler> the devzone (redmine) would be able to onnect to ldap 20:30:26 <Alberth> but that means you're sending user name + pwd in clear text over the internet 20:30:47 <Alberth> so https as minimal requirement, I think 20:31:19 <Alberth> second, you need to store it somewhere, ldap would be one possible solution 20:31:40 <Alberth> but I don't know that area at all 20:32:23 <Alberth> third is the problem what you exactly want to know about them, and what actions need to be coded to make that happen 20:32:36 <Alberth> again, /me is mostly clueless about it 20:32:44 <frosch123> Alberth: i think it makes most sense to use devzone users, instead of using custom stuff 20:32:55 <frosch123> you could add a "translator" role to redmine 20:33:00 <frosch123> and query that from the translator 20:33:08 <Alberth> fourth, access rights are now central, which scales very badly 20:33:52 <Ammler> redmine already would have rest 20:33:53 <Alberth> ie andy cannot add translators 20:33:57 <Ammler> to query users 20:34:06 <Ammler> via python 20:34:15 <planetmaker> Alberth, andythenorth what kind of linuxwould you want in your VPS? 20:34:21 <planetmaker> oh, ammler's already here :D 20:34:34 <planetmaker> and now I highlighted them all :-) 20:34:39 <Alberth> planetmaker: anything with Python3 20:35:00 <Alberth> currently that's the only dependency 20:35:00 <andythenorth> I have zero knowledge 20:35:20 <Ammler> (fedora should be possible 20:36:26 <Ammler> is there aleady a distro using python 3 as default? 20:37:17 <Alberth> but imo it's a bit too early, I should first finish it, add a bit of docs, and have someone (planetmaker?) have a look at the result 20:37:36 <planetmaker> :-) 20:37:38 <Ammler> again, the vps could also be used for developing 20:37:46 <planetmaker> well, I gladly would like to :-) 20:37:52 <Alberth> Ammler: ubuntu already did with the previous release, althought it was insane 20:38:01 <Ammler> I would anyway suggest to run 2 servers, stage and production 20:38:24 <Alberth> Ammler: running locally works fine, we don't have a db 20:38:36 <Alberth> just a bunch of files that get loaded/written 20:40:51 <Ammler> okidoki, it is up to you anyway, we would just provide the server 20:41:28 <Alberth> and we thank you for that, we will need it at some point :) 20:42:09 <Ammler> what server do you use locally? 20:42:25 <andythenorth> we don'y 20:42:28 <andythenorth> don't * 20:42:32 <andythenorth> well it's a wsgi app 20:42:33 <Alberth> bottle uses wsgi 20:42:50 <Ammler> andythenorth: for wsgi you still need a server 20:42:52 <andythenorth> for production it will need apache or nginx or something in front of it 20:42:57 <andythenorth> or maybe just paster :P 20:43:02 <andythenorth> but probably not in production 20:43:09 <Alberth> as long as it is single threaded 20:43:25 <Ammler> was just curious 20:43:46 <andythenorth> Alberth: we don't know yet? (is the answer?) 20:43:50 <Ammler> so you might already use paster locally? 20:44:20 <Alberth> andythenorth: ? 20:44:29 <andythenorth> wrt server 20:44:36 <andythenorth> I am reading stack overflow now :P 20:44:37 <Alberth> oh, indeed 20:45:45 <Alberth> Bottle is a fast and simple micro-framework for small web applications. It 20:45:45 <Alberth> offers request dispatching (Routes) with url parameter support, templates, 20:45:45 <Alberth> a built-in HTTP Server and adapters for many third party WSGI/HTTP-server and 20:45:45 <Alberth> template engines - all in a single file and with no dependencies other than the 20:45:45 <Alberth> Python Standard Library. 20:45:56 <Alberth> ie it has its own server 20:46:25 <andythenorth> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2942940/which-webserver-to-use-with-bottle 20:46:26 <Webster> Title: python - Which webserver to use with bottle? - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) 20:47:46 <Ammler> ok, so gunicorn would also work 20:47:51 <Alberth> tbh aside from robots, I don't expect much traffic 20:48:13 <andythenorth> could just serve directly :P 20:49:11 <Alberth> if you see the number of daily changes of openttd translations, they are less than 100 changes, in general 20:50:07 <Alberth> we would have mor projects, but they are a lot smaller than openttd translations 20:50:11 <Alberth> *more 20:53:43 <andythenorth> Ammler: is there some apache or such handling domain names / subdomains for coop? 20:58:41 <Ammler> andythenorth: yes (nginx), you don't need to bother about frontend 21:05:40 <andythenorth> k :) 21:45:30 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:46:16 <Brot6> Webtranslator - Revision 126:3db0b1b9096c: Add: Remove generated .pyc files of the Epydoc run. 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