Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 6th March 2013:
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08:03:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3425:c7918c4a3013: Change: add cargo class 'covered' to Cla... XandythenorthX @
08:05:08  <Brot6> firs: update from r3424 to r3425 done (36 warnings) -
08:05:18  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5225 (New): Create extended developer documentation automat... XandythenorthX @
08:12:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3426:70e1bec202ab: Codechange: use petrol as identifier ins... XandythenorthX @
08:14:09  <Brot6> firs: update from r3425 to r3426 done (36 warnings) -
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09:02:54  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4901 (Closed): Scrap metal cargo color too hard to see XandythenorthX @
09:02:54  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3427:71b2bc3364ac: Change: make Scrap Metal more visible in... XandythenorthX @
09:03:56  <Brot6> firs: update from r3426 to r3427 done (36 warnings) -
09:19:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5216 (Closed): Improve some map colours XandythenorthX @
09:19:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5216: Improve some map colours XandythenorthX @
09:19:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3428:423a3a5e47a7: Change: improve map colour for Glass Wor... XandythenorthX @
09:21:02  <Brot6> firs: update from r3427 to r3428 done (36 warnings) -
09:39:27  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3429:815659666889: Change: try orange for port map colour, ... XandythenorthX @
09:41:07  <Brot6> firs: update from r3428 to r3429 done (36 warnings) -
10:46:07  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3430:f57cdab818ef: Docs: update changelog ahead of 0.10.0 r... XandythenorthX @
10:47:41  <Brot6> firs: update from r3429 to r3430 done (36 warnings) -
10:53:57  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3431:fd5d926794da: Added tag 0.10.0 for changeset f57cdab81... XandythenorthX @
10:54:31  <Brot6> firs: update from 0.9.3 to 0.10.0 done -
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14:43:50  <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 64:b1fe73c8aa8b: Update: Change OpenTTD/TTDPatch version requ... Xmart3pX @
17:19:57  <Brot6> firs: update from r3420 to r3431 done (36 warnings) -
17:21:13  <Brot6> fish: update from r1009 to r1010 done (3 warnings) -
17:21:56  <Brot6> isr: update from r63 to r64 done -
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17:25:18  <Brot6> zBuild - Bug #5228 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @
17:57:57  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #5231 (New): NG sprites XVoyager1X @
18:08:29  <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 65:b4f6e8a9bea7: Fix (r62): Correct copy/paste error in Finni... Xmart3pX @
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19:17:20  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3223 (Rejected): industry availability callback XandythenorthX @
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19:36:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #5234 (New): Add Dan's Cannery XandythenorthX @
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20:13:03  <Brot6> Webtranslator - Revision 143:8dca819bd900: Codechange: Unify project name parameter name. XAlberthX @
20:13:03  <Brot6> Webtranslator - Revision 144:5efaaad6d9fb: Codechange: Unify language name variable. XAlberthX @
20:30:08  <Brot6> Webtranslator - Revision 145:795b802f2836: Add: Extremely simple user authentication. XAlberthX @
20:34:50  <frosch123> yay, i guessed right
20:42:48  <Alberth> ?
20:46:12  <frosch123> about the meaning of "extremly simple" :)
20:46:22  <Alberth> :)
20:47:17  <Alberth>  do these rights count as extremely simple too? :)
20:47:58  <Alberth> although it is currently just air
20:48:50  <frosch123> i have no clue :) does the file use some standard format? or did you just invent that syntax?
20:49:18  <Alberth> I invented on the way home from work :)
20:50:01  <Alberth> my first version of a month ago had users rights at one central point for every user explicitly
20:50:04  <frosch123> i assume the last three values mean something like view/edit/add
20:50:22  <Alberth> actually, they are paths
20:50:47  <frosch123> oh, what does the "-" mean then?
20:50:53  <frosch123>  /projects/-/-/get
20:51:51  <Alberth> second item is 'project name', 3rd item is 'language name'
20:52:17  <Alberth> but projects is a global overview, and doesn't have either
20:53:06  <Alberth> ie   frosch - /project/firs/nl_NL/*   to stop you from editing dutch in firs :)
20:53:52  <Alberth> hmm, should be /language, but it should be clear how to read it :)
20:54:12  <frosch123> so, a single file to configure rights for all projects?
20:54:23  <frosch123> i wondered whether every project would be allowed to assign roles
20:55:01  <frosch123> hmm, but likely someone would be granted editing rights for a specific language in all participating projects
20:55:12  <frosch123> there are not so many translators after all
20:55:37  <Alberth> that's what the OWNER and TRANSLATOR are for, they are magic users that match when the person doing the query has that role
20:56:16  <Alberth> I didn't want to need to edit that file very often
20:56:25  <frosch123> i meant the owner of a project granting rights for editing languages in his project
20:56:55  <frosch123> instead of an admin granting rights for users on request of some owner
20:56:55  <Alberth> indeed, I need to make additional pages for doing that
20:57:11  <frosch123> but then again, i wonder whether that is actually useful
20:57:43  <frosch123> or whether there would rather be something like certain devzone accounts getting rights to edit dutch in all projects using the wt
20:58:13  <Alberth> user + /string_edit/*/nl_NL/*
20:58:25  <frosch123> yeah
20:59:05  <Alberth> I am not sure how much you'd gain by a simpler system
20:59:19  <Alberth> you have to code access rights anyway
20:59:40  <Alberth> and add a few hooks to throw people out without much effort
21:00:27  <Alberth> hard-coding the names won't work either
21:02:11  <Alberth> one step to make it easier is to have the user-names <-> roles connection in another file, instead of making web pages for it
21:02:13  <frosch123> well, currently the devzone seems to have these roles: manager, developer, contributor, reported, watcher, editor, inactive
21:02:18  <frosch123> no idea what they mean
21:02:26  <frosch123> but there could be another role "translator"
21:02:40  <Alberth> hmm, interesting
21:02:47  <frosch123> openttd even has roles for every language
21:02:59  <Alberth> could we perhaps hook the stuff directly into redmine?
21:03:10  <frosch123> i would expect so :)
21:03:30  <frosch123> but i am not sure whether adding 30 roles for 30 languages is a fancy solution
21:03:41  <frosch123> but it would be the most correct one :p
21:03:45  <frosch123> just tedious
21:04:47  <frosch123> it's what openttd's ldap does
21:05:05  <frosch123> roles for every language, and users are assigned their translator role
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21:05:43  <Alberth> hmm, RM is written in Ruby
21:07:38  <frosch123> well, maybe ammler ports the devzone to ldap :p
21:08:04  <Alberth> I was considering to make it a plugin, but it
21:08:10  <Alberth> 'd mean a rewrite
21:08:47  <Alberth> the web-pages are not that much, but all the logic is quite big
21:14:31  <frosch123> people seem to be able to configure apache to access the redmine user database for authentication
21:15:00  <frosch123> so, i guess if you have some python thingie to access mysql databases you can just do the same
21:16:12  <frosch123> yeah, you need mysql access and you need to be able to compute a sha1 sum of the entered passwrod
21:16:49  <frosch123> unless Ammler configured some different hashing
21:18:38  <frosch123> <- that might also be useful :)
21:18:39  <Webster> Title: Usage - pyredminews - Python Redmine Web Services Library - Google Project Hosting (at
21:19:29  <frosch123> hmm, though that seems to be more a client side thing
21:19:40  <frosch123> which logs in to a remote redmine
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22:53:24  <Ammler> hgweb (push) is python script which uses the redmine db
22:54:02  <Ammler> this should be no big deal imo

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