Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 27th June 2013:
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05:43:58  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3704:4b5300268fb7: Codechange: add an echo_message method f... XandythenorthX @
05:45:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3705:d419a9658b51: Codechange: add utils to industry templa... XandythenorthX @
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05:47:12  <Brot6> firs: update from r3703 to r3704 done (30 warnings) -
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05:50:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3707:81e09e390467: Change: add Cotton Plantation for MISTAH... XandythenorthX @
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06:23:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3708:d1c75a161dbd: Change: Cofee Estate instead of Coffee P... XandythenorthX @
06:26:24  <Brot6> firs: update from r3707 to r3708 done (30 warnings) -
07:05:55  <planetmaker> George, can you verify: Only the stats in the purchase list are messed up. Stats are ok when the vehicle is actually bought?
07:10:49  <andythenorth> hmm
07:10:54  <andythenorth> sounds like buy menu chain?
07:11:06  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3709:32704ee57331: Change: rename Cotton Plantation to Fibr... XandythenorthX @
07:11:11  <andythenorth> if that's accurate, is cb36 being called for buy menu badly?
07:11:17  <andythenorth> or something similar
07:13:50  <planetmaker> seems something like that. But it's called in a weired way then
07:14:03  <Brot6> firs: update from r3708 to r3709 done (30 warnings) -
07:14:09  <planetmaker> it seems to fail even when I remove all purchase* callbacks
07:14:28  <planetmaker> but there's still much stuff templated which ... I need to reduce further to understand
07:15:11  <planetmaker> but I need to check this observation also again. maybe later... now work work
07:17:11  * andythenorth too
07:17:44  <andythenorth> mm
07:17:52  <andythenorth> I have a patch for ANSI colours on nml warnings
07:17:55  <andythenorth> maybe I should commit that :P
07:18:01  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3710:389996be4ce2: Codechange: wrap echo messages from temp... XandythenorthX @
07:21:02  <Brot6> firs: update from r3709 to r3710 done (30 warnings) -
07:21:57  <planetmaker> George, patch to reduce grf complexity:
07:23:11  <planetmaker> George, I likely don't have much time today. Next steps: to test whether it still breaks purchase list stats: remove vl60 from grf. replace the macro calls get_...() in the property block by simple return values.
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07:35:13  <planetmaker> George, different topic: do the landscape sprites exist for I might be interested to integrate them in opengfx+landscape, if they could be used under gpl v2+
07:35:14  <Webster> Title: xUSSR graphics set (at
07:43:38  <Supercheese> planetmaker, some of those rock graphics I highly suspect are derived from another game
07:43:47  <Supercheese> wouldn't be very GPL-friendly
07:44:56  <Supercheese> I could be wrong, but they bear a striking resemblance...
07:49:14  <planetmaker> what game do you think of, Supercheese ?
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07:52:35  <Supercheese> Caesar III, I'd wager at least some of those sprites are borrowed from it
07:53:15  <Supercheese> it has very good sprites, I've borrowed some myself
07:53:28  <planetmaker> hm, I see
07:54:30  <planetmaker> hm, nice graphics, would be suitable for our purpose
07:55:06  <planetmaker> but those two don't look too similar to me... different colour and different rocks
07:55:20  <planetmaker> but... I just quickly looked at some screenshots
07:55:56  <Supercheese> perhaps it is simply an uncanny resemblance
08:00:57  <Supercheese> it is 1 AM, and I could merely be seeing things :P
08:00:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3711:a268c65d4639: Docs: fix missing string for Rubber Plan... XandythenorthX @
08:03:49  <Brot6> firs: update from r3710 to r3711 done (30 warnings) -
08:04:53  <Supercheese> oh sheesh, I think I just confused George with mb
08:06:32  <Supercheese> yeah, wrong grf author :S
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13:44:04  <George> <Supercheese> planetmaker, some of those rock graphics I highly suspect are derived from another game - No, they are rendered from my photos of rocks
13:59:19  <George> planetmaker:  I did the folloing test
13:59:37  <George> I removed all trains except vl60*
13:59:53  <George> I disbled all the CB - values are ok
14:00:11  <George> as soon as I ad ANY CB values are broken
14:04:04  <George>
14:05:47  <planetmaker> right... can one reduce it to only vl60k?
14:06:07  <planetmaker> and also remove vl60 from the grf?
14:06:53  <George>
14:07:17  <planetmaker> ?
14:07:28  <George>
14:07:53  <George> the reduce is applied by changing 3 files
14:08:02  <George> vl60.pnml
14:08:04  <planetmaker>
14:08:06  <George> vl60k.pnml
14:08:11  <George> xussr.pnml
14:08:37  <planetmaker> ^^ that's the patch you can continue with which I had already this morning
14:08:41  <planetmaker> yes, I know
14:09:08  <planetmaker> it basically corresponds roughly to your 3rd paste. But disables more of the grf to reduce it further
14:09:17  <planetmaker> I want a really minimal grf which shows the behaviour
14:09:33  <planetmaker> best one vehicle and a few lines only commented out or not which toggles it.
14:09:39  <planetmaker> with everything not needed removed from it
14:10:15  <planetmaker> I simply do not yet know what's going on... thus it needs to become as simple as possible
14:11:16  <planetmaker> thus what I need is either a self-contained minimal nml file. Or a patch file which applies to r960 probably (like the patch file I linked)
14:12:14  <planetmaker> it certainly would be helpful, if you can minimize this further than I got so far
14:12:47  <planetmaker> if not, I'll have time to continue investigate probably not before tomorrow evening
14:13:18  <planetmaker> simply for RL reasons
14:19:41  <George> Sorry for delay
14:19:44  <George> So
14:20:09  <George> as you can on this huge reduce, when all the CBs are disabled, props are ok
14:20:29  <George> As soon as any CB is added, props go wrong
14:21:40  <George> I'll try to reduce the file even more
14:37:59  <George> I've found a fix, now I have to understand why it works and the code before the fix didn't ...
14:38:44  <George> The reason was in this line
14:38:50  <George> switch (FEAT_TRAINS, PARENT, vl60k_get_spriteset1, [ STORE_TEMP(current_speed, 1),   STORE_TEMP(date_of_last_service, 2)]) {   vl60k_get_spriteset2; }
14:39:28  <George> which was called from
14:39:32  <George> graphics {     default: vl60k_get_spriteset;
14:40:16  <George> but there is     purchase: vl60k_get_purchase_spriteset; block, so why it was called and why did it cause the issue?
14:44:22  <George> planetmaker: why calling PARENT in default grapics in case purchase graphics is defined causes the issue?
14:47:57  <planetmaker> in purchase view there is parent scope defined
14:48:06  <planetmaker> it cannot be called there
14:48:47  <planetmaker> *no parent scope defined in purchase view
14:48:58  <planetmaker> ^sorry
14:52:48  <planetmaker> or did I mis-understand you?
14:59:32  <planetmaker> hm, I see. That's usually not called for purchase list... interesting
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15:18:07  <George> yes, it should not be called there. But why it caused wrong CBs results?
15:18:22  <George> Imho, that should not happen
15:28:15  <planetmaker> shouldn't... yes. Can it be reduced to a very minimalistic vehicle which shows this behaviour? so that even the nfo starts to become understandable? nmlc --nfo output.nfo xussr.nml ?
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16:35:58  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r999 to r1000 done (4 warnings) -
16:49:52  <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 209:143c4ed28a4f: Codechange: Improve comments and code layou... Xmart3pX @
16:59:36  <George> planetmaker: hope it is small enought
16:59:46  <George> all you need is to add an image file
17:00:15  <George> and a language file
17:00:49  <planetmaker> that's nicely small, George. thank you
17:19:12  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r999 to r1000 done (4 warnings) -
17:23:15  <Brot6> firs: update from r3701 to r3711 done (30 warnings) -
17:24:12  <Brot6> isr: update from r207 to r209 done -
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20:42:54  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3712:3baaeace9ae8: Change: add Diamond Mine for MISTAH_KURT... XandythenorthX @
20:45:48  <Brot6> firs: update from r3711 to r3712 done (30 warnings) -
20:46:14  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3713:8a8ffe47888b: Codechange: add a check to docs for miss... XandythenorthX @
20:48:27  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3714:dd10b689807f: Docs: add missing string for Diamond Min... XandythenorthX @
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20:49:11  <Brot6> firs: update from r3712 to r3713 done (30 warnings) -
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21:41:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #6026 (New): Graphics for Coffee Estate XandythenorthX @
21:41:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #6029 (New): Graphics for Rubber Plantation XandythenorthX @
21:41:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #6032 (New): Graphics for Fibre Crop Farm XandythenorthX @
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