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01:19:37 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1028 to r1030 done (36 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1030 06:06:58 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:01:39 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:15:33 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 07:56:56 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:58:15 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 09:42:33 *** zooks has quit IRC 10:09:58 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:26:49 *** zooks has quit IRC 14:45:39 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:34:23 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:17:46 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:19:19 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1028 to r1030 done (36 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/nightlies/r1030 17:40:07 *** zooks has quit IRC 18:42:14 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:48:12 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:21:58 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 17:9fe6e90adc64: 2.0.7 RC3 XTadeuszDX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkpset/repository/revisions/9fe6e90adc64 19:32:57 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - pkp-2.0.7_RC3.grf XTadeuszDX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4976/pkp-2.0.7_RC3.grf 19:34:48 <frosch123> hmm, looks like i need a python crash course first, before i can make bananas run 19:39:01 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - CORE.diff XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4919/CORE.diff 19:39:46 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - pkp-2.0.7_RC3.grf XTadeuszDX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4979/pkp-2.0.7_RC3.grf 19:44:05 <Rubidium> frosch123: python or django? 19:44:35 <frosch123> python 19:44:42 <frosch123> i did the django course already :) 19:44:54 <frosch123> anyway, made it advance to the next issue somehow 20:06:39 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:11:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:13:00 *** zooks has quit IRC 20:14:07 <Alberth> frosch123: the python tutorial is useful http://docs.python.org/2.7/tutorial/index.html 20:14:08 <Webster> Title: The Python Tutorial Python v2.7.5 documentation (at docs.python.org) 20:14:29 <andythenorth> o/ 20:14:34 <andythenorth> tutorial? :o 20:20:03 <frosch123> Alberth: btw. i tried to plug eints via wsgi into apache, but i can only install the wsgi thingie for either python 2 or python 3 20:20:19 * andythenorth should do a tutorial 20:20:23 <andythenorth> I might be able to learn python 20:20:28 <frosch123> and since bananas-django needs python 2, we have to stick to the bottle-buildin webserver for eints 20:20:48 <andythenorth> there are others 20:20:56 <andythenorth> but I don't know much about them 20:21:11 <Alberth> frosch123: sounds ok to me, django will eventually move to 3 20:21:19 <Alberth> (or cease to exist :p 20:21:44 <Alberth> or we will bottle-fy bananas too :p 20:22:07 <andythenorth> or pyramid :P 20:22:10 <Alberth> tutorial is quite dense, intended for programmers 20:22:11 <andythenorth> or something 20:22:33 <frosch123> well, currently i am at a html level :s 20:22:34 <Alberth> something sounds like fun :p 20:22:44 <andythenorth> hmm 20:22:46 <frosch123> i only want to run the bananas part 20:22:51 * andythenorth scans the tutorial 20:22:56 <frosch123> so i need to throw out all the other website modules :p 20:23:08 <andythenorth> django is funny 20:23:18 <andythenorth> it's a marmite framework 20:26:02 <Alberth> ? 20:26:17 <andythenorth> you either love it or hate it 20:26:55 <andythenorth> djangonauts love django 20:27:02 <andythenorth> other people less so 20:27:16 * andythenorth has no evidence either way :) 20:27:41 <andythenorth> the tutorial doesn't seem to mention shallow copy vs. deep copy, which is perhaps one thing I wish I had learnt the easy way 20:29:06 <Alberth> is there an easy way? 20:29:16 <andythenorth> knowing in advance :P 20:29:23 <andythenorth> instead of wondering wtf you have bugs :) 20:29:36 <andythenorth> frosch123: wrt to WSGI libraries, this might give some background on current state http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/webob_py3 20:29:37 <Webster> Title: plope - WebOb Now on Python 3 (at www.plope.com) 20:29:41 <Alberth> it doesn't mention references? 20:30:06 <andythenorth> Alberth: probably does 20:30:19 <Alberth> knowing and understanding are very different :p 20:31:35 <Alberth> I think you have to get through the 2 stages of using references first before you understand what to do 20:31:59 <frosch123> andythenorth: is that of relevance to me? i did not know about wsgi a week ago, i still do not know what it is :p i only know what it can be used for :) 20:32:52 <frosch123> anyway, it seems like albert's single-threadedness can be best ensured by running the bottle-custom-thingie 20:32:58 <andythenorth> frosch123: not sure, this seemed to describe a relevant thing: 20:33:11 <andythenorth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2368/ 20:33:36 <frosch123> andythenorth: my package manager offers my apache modules for wsgi python2 or 3, but the packages conflict, so i can only install one 20:33:56 <frosch123> proably because there is no syntax in the apache config to specify which of them to use 20:34:40 <andythenorth> hmmm 20:35:02 <andythenorth> I don't have a mental picture of the problem, and I know just enough about python web framework deployment to be dangerous 20:35:05 <andythenorth> so I'll shut up :) 20:35:11 <andythenorth> otherwise it's confusing 20:35:30 <Alberth> :) 20:44:12 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:50:40 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:50:44 * andythenorth ponders 20:50:46 <andythenorth> make stuff 20:50:51 <andythenorth> or play euro truck simulator? 20:53:00 <Alberth> toss a dice? 20:53:04 <Alberth> good night 20:53:09 <andythenorth> bye :) 20:53:16 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:24:40 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:46:19 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1030 to r1031 done (36 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1031 22:15:42 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1031 to r1032 done (36 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1032 23:34:54 *** Jam35 has quit IRC