Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 5th July 2013:
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01:19:37  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1028 to r1030 done (36 warnings) -
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17:19:19  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1028 to r1030 done (36 warnings) -
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19:21:58  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Revision 17:9fe6e90adc64: 2.0.7 RC3 XTadeuszDX @
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19:34:48  <frosch123> hmm, looks like i need a python crash course first, before i can make bananas run
19:39:01  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - CORE.diff XandythenorthX @
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19:44:05  <Rubidium> frosch123: python or django?
19:44:35  <frosch123> python
19:44:42  <frosch123> i did the django course already :)
19:44:54  <frosch123> anyway, made it advance to the next issue somehow
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20:14:07  <Alberth> frosch123: the python tutorial is useful
20:14:08  <Webster> Title: The Python Tutorial Python v2.7.5 documentation (at
20:14:29  <andythenorth> o/
20:14:34  <andythenorth> tutorial? :o
20:20:03  <frosch123> Alberth: btw. i tried to plug eints via wsgi into apache, but i can only install the wsgi thingie for either python 2 or python 3
20:20:19  * andythenorth should do a tutorial
20:20:23  <andythenorth> I might be able to learn python
20:20:28  <frosch123> and since bananas-django needs python 2, we have to stick to the bottle-buildin webserver for eints
20:20:48  <andythenorth> there are others
20:20:56  <andythenorth> but I don't know much about them
20:21:11  <Alberth> frosch123: sounds ok to me, django will eventually move to 3
20:21:19  <Alberth> (or cease to exist :p
20:21:44  <Alberth> or we will bottle-fy bananas too :p
20:22:07  <andythenorth> or pyramid :P
20:22:10  <Alberth> tutorial is quite dense, intended for programmers
20:22:11  <andythenorth> or something
20:22:33  <frosch123> well, currently i am at a html level :s
20:22:34  <Alberth> something sounds like fun :p
20:22:44  <andythenorth> hmm
20:22:46  <frosch123> i only want to run the bananas part
20:22:51  * andythenorth scans the tutorial
20:22:56  <frosch123> so i need to throw out all the other website modules :p
20:23:08  <andythenorth> django is funny
20:23:18  <andythenorth> it's a marmite framework
20:26:02  <Alberth> ?
20:26:17  <andythenorth> you either love it or hate it
20:26:55  <andythenorth> djangonauts love django
20:27:02  <andythenorth> other people less so
20:27:16  * andythenorth has no evidence either way :)
20:27:41  <andythenorth> the tutorial doesn't seem to mention shallow copy vs. deep copy, which is perhaps one thing I wish I had learnt the easy way
20:29:06  <Alberth> is there an easy way?
20:29:16  <andythenorth> knowing in advance :P
20:29:23  <andythenorth> instead of wondering wtf you have bugs :)
20:29:36  <andythenorth> frosch123: wrt to WSGI libraries, this might give some background on current state
20:29:37  <Webster> Title: plope - WebOb Now on Python 3 (at
20:29:41  <Alberth> it doesn't mention references?
20:30:06  <andythenorth> Alberth: probably does
20:30:19  <Alberth> knowing and understanding are very different :p
20:31:35  <Alberth> I think you have to get through the 2 stages of using references first before you understand what to do
20:31:59  <frosch123> andythenorth: is that of relevance to me? i did not know about wsgi a week ago, i still do not know what it is :p i only know what it can be used for :)
20:32:52  <frosch123> anyway, it seems like albert's single-threadedness can be best ensured by running the  bottle-custom-thingie
20:32:58  <andythenorth> frosch123: not sure, this seemed to describe a relevant thing:
20:33:11  <andythenorth>
20:33:36  <frosch123> andythenorth: my package manager offers my apache modules for wsgi python2 or 3, but the packages conflict, so i can only install one
20:33:56  <frosch123> proably because there is no syntax in the apache config to specify which of them to use
20:34:40  <andythenorth> hmmm
20:35:02  <andythenorth> I don't have a mental picture of the problem, and I know just enough about python web framework deployment to be dangerous
20:35:05  <andythenorth> so I'll shut up :)
20:35:11  <andythenorth> otherwise it's confusing
20:35:30  <Alberth> :)
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20:50:44  * andythenorth ponders
20:50:46  <andythenorth> make stuff
20:50:51  <andythenorth> or play euro truck simulator?
20:53:00  <Alberth> toss a dice?
20:53:04  <Alberth> good night
20:53:09  <andythenorth> bye :)
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21:46:19  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1030 to r1031 done (36 warnings) -
22:15:42  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1031 to r1032 done (36 warnings) -
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