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01:09:21 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1032 to r1033 done (36 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1033 06:38:30 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:27:07 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:53:57 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:18:13 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:18:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #6143 (New): Nearby station names for more industrie... 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XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/f37c9b1e8070 16:31:57 <Alberth> lol, JAVA for coffee :) 16:32:23 <andythenorth> blame Rubidium 16:33:24 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #6146 (New): Missing catenary pylons XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6146 16:35:23 <Alberth> :o new FIRS strings! 16:36:17 <andythenorth> :o 16:36:24 <andythenorth> :) 16:43:32 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 256:62773322be33: Codechange: work-in-progress on cold store XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/62773322be33 16:51:48 <Alberth> foundry died? 16:52:03 <andythenorth> server it was on fell down dead last monday 16:52:15 <andythenorth> we had to restore a lot of business stuff from backups 16:52:29 <andythenorth> the site is there, but the domain isn't pointed to the right IP 16:52:47 <andythenorth> there's not much useful on tt-foundry anyway 16:52:52 <Alberth> k, then I must find another picture of the bulk terminal :) 16:53:04 <andythenorth> it's on devzone 16:53:21 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4988/DockMockup.png 16:53:26 <andythenorth> I haven't implemented graphics for it yet 16:55:16 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #6146 (Closed): Missing catenary pylons XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6146 16:55:16 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #6146 (Closed): Missing catenary pylons XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6146#change-16469 16:55:16 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 257:bb8afaef36cb: Fix: provide pylons on electrified platforms (closes ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/bb8afaef36cb 16:55:25 <Alberth> thanks, there was no obvious right directory in /graphics_sources 16:56:39 <Alberth> what does the coffee estate do? 16:56:53 <andythenorth> produce coffee :) 16:57:13 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#coffee_estate 16:57:19 <andythenorth> also a bit of fruit 16:57:35 <andythenorth> coffee is often grown in the shade of fruit trees 16:57:48 <Alberth> from nothing, like a fruit plantation, ok 16:58:26 <Alberth> hmm, but what are these things called in Dutch? :) 16:58:26 <andythenorth> I just didn't want to use the word 'plantation' again 16:58:33 <andythenorth> if it doesn't translate, just use plantation 16:58:48 <Alberth> "estate" sounds very good imho 16:58:49 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_coffee 16:58:50 <Webster> Title: Java coffee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 16:59:08 <andythenorth> "The coffee is primarily grown on large estates built by the Dutch in the 18th century. 16:59:24 <Alberth> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness I liked this 'translation' :) 16:59:25 <Webster> Title: Heart of Darkness - Wikipedia (at nl.wikipedia.org) 17:02:16 <Alberth> estate is more "real estate", ie buildings, it seems 17:04:47 <Alberth> what does the fibre crop farm produce? 17:04:55 <andythenorth> cotton, flax etc 17:05:11 <andythenorth> hemp, jute 17:05:12 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_crop 17:05:13 <Webster> Title: Fiber crop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 17:08:17 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:08:45 <Alberth> apparently we are famous for our flax 17:09:51 <andythenorth> how nice 17:10:41 <Alberth> trading post sounds like a shop in a very small village, is that true? 17:10:59 <andythenorth> more like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Factories 17:11:00 <Webster> Title: Thirteen Factories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 17:11:29 <Alberth> ah, in a far away country :) 17:11:37 <andythenorth> import-export 17:12:26 <andythenorth> oh, a picture :) http://historybricks.com/2010/01/23/a-new-colony/ 17:12:27 <Webster> Title: A new colony | HistoryBricks (at historybricks.com) 17:13:11 <Alberth> nice :) 17:17:36 <Alberth> can I push a dutch translation update in FIRS ? 17:17:42 <andythenorth> yup 17:18:55 <Alberth> pushed 17:18:59 <andythenorth> did you use eints? o_O 17:19:31 <Alberth> nope 17:19:34 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1030 to r1033 done (36 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/nightlies/r1033 17:19:39 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3733:3bb540d38b85: Update: Dutch translation. XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3bb540d38b85 17:19:49 <Alberth> I have to make a test setup for the new issues 17:20:04 <Alberth> I am not sure the issue really exists 17:22:37 <Brot6> firs: update from r3732 to r3733 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3733 17:23:57 <Brot6> firs: update from r3732 to r3733 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r3733 17:24:56 <Brot6> chips: update from r254 to r257 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r257 17:27:38 <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Bug #6149 (New): Classic gantry crane disappears Xmart3pX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6149 18:33:29 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:52:50 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:53:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:56:17 <Brot6> Progressive Train Set - Feature Request #6152 (New): Add JAVA support XMinchinWebX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6152 18:59:48 <andythenorth> Supercheese: any feedback on the new FIRS economy 18:59:48 <andythenorth> ? 19:01:29 <andythenorth> or bugs? 19:05:44 <Supercheese> Well, I had the request for more nearby station names 19:05:57 <Supercheese> I built a station beside a coffee estate and it named it "Townname Forest" 19:06:13 <Supercheese> I'd much rather have it "Townname Coffee Estate" 19:06:22 <Supercheese> already put a ticket for that 19:08:46 <andythenorth> interesting 19:08:57 <andythenorth> many of the industries had their town name deleted 19:09:02 <andythenorth> players seemed to hate it 19:09:38 <andythenorth> interesting that the 'default' industries don't set them (steel mill, coal mine etc) 19:10:39 <Supercheese> Right, I agree that the in-town industries should not have the nearby station set 19:10:55 <Supercheese> but out-of-town industries should 19:11:27 <andythenorth> I wonder why the coffee estate picks up forest? 19:11:32 <andythenorth> maybe because it's organic 19:13:10 <andythenorth> planetmaker: got an opinion? This issue has been back and forth. 19:13:20 <andythenorth> currently the situation is wholly inconsistent :) 19:13:55 <Supercheese> Grf parameter, "Enable nearby station names" :P 19:14:29 <andythenorth> town industries don't set station name - by deliberate choice. For all other industries, some set, some don't, some appear to set wrong 19:14:58 <andythenorth> -1 to a parameter :P 19:15:09 * Supercheese was not serious 19:15:21 <andythenorth> oic ;) 19:34:02 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 258:bbb9d93c1a18: Feature: add graphics support for Sugar cargo (#6113) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/bbb9d93c1a18 19:49:20 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 259:b411b27cdd0e: Feature: add graphic support for Diamonds, Gold and V... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/b411b27cdd0e 19:56:05 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 260:5a4611468b29: Feature: graphics support for Coffee cargo (#6113) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/5a4611468b29 20:12:20 *** zooks has quit IRC 20:38:24 <andythenorth> meh 20:38:28 <andythenorth> I've now lost interest 20:38:38 <Alberth> I thought so :( 20:38:53 <andythenorth> I should learn how to use /ignore 20:39:09 <Alberth> discussing with users that state "you should" is useless :) 20:39:24 <andythenorth> anything along the lines of 'take a poll' 20:39:27 <andythenorth> drives me nuts 20:39:51 <Supercheese> OGFX... isn't even very good IMO 20:39:53 <Alberth> ignore is easier to do :) 20:39:59 <Supercheese> TTD sprites are much nicer 20:40:11 <Alberth> I like the grid-less variant 20:40:46 <Alberth> and it has less drawing glitches than my original set :p 20:41:20 <Alberth> one of the trucks is quite wrongly aligned :p 20:41:34 <andythenorth> this isn't quite perfect, but is it good enough? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4997/sugarcane.png 20:41:48 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - sugarcane.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/4997/sugarcane.png 20:41:58 <andythenorth> rl chopped sugarcane looks like this https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=harvested+sugarcane&client=safari&rls=en&hl=en&biw=1229&bih=636&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=4oHYUY6vH4PSPJfDgZgF&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ 20:41:59 <Webster> Title: harvested sugarcane - Google Search (at www.google.co.uk) 20:42:02 <Supercheese> I don't even know... oh 20:42:05 <Supercheese> there we go :) 20:42:28 <andythenorth> I can't be bothered to draw 'sticklike' bits of cane 20:42:31 <andythenorth> it won't look good 20:42:31 <Alberth> all the farm land is part of it, or just the small part near the buildings? 20:42:33 <Supercheese> looks darn good to me 20:42:50 <andythenorth> Alberth: all the farmland 20:43:01 <andythenorth> if you mean the fields ;) 20:43:27 <Alberth> oh the bit near the buildings is a station of course 20:43:33 <andythenorth> yes :) 20:44:06 <andythenorth> I toned down the yellow a bit: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5000/sugarcane_2.png 20:44:36 <Alberth> it feels like the roofs of the / buildings could use some white-ish spickles? 20:44:43 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - sugarcane_2.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5000/sugarcane_2.png 20:45:11 <Alberth> it has a lot of detail though, which is very nice 20:45:21 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #6113 (Closed): Add support for additional cargos XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6113#change-16475 20:45:21 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 261:04e703dd54dd: Feature: graphics support for Sugarcane cargo (closes... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/04e703dd54dd 20:45:31 <andythenorth> I never figure out how to draw Sugar Beet 20:45:39 <andythenorth> it's just a big muddy pile of stuff irl 20:45:48 <Supercheese> copper ore sprites :P 20:46:00 <andythenorth> maybe same as sugar cane, with the yellow and green removed? o_O 20:46:31 <andythenorth> http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/726409/726409,1321056683,2/stock-photo-sugar-beet-pile-at-the-field-after-harvest-89361445.jpg 20:46:56 <Alberth> yeah, perhaps some white-ish spickles? 20:46:57 <Supercheese> Seems reasonable 20:47:01 <frosch123> is there a yellow crawler on the picture? 20:47:43 <andythenorth> yes 20:47:47 <frosch123> oh wait, it's about the station, not the farm, right? 20:47:49 <Alberth> I thought it was a fork lift 20:47:59 <Alberth> good night 20:48:47 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:48:55 <andythenorth> frosch123: station yes ;) 20:49:08 <andythenorth> if you ever figure out fields, I'll have to figure out drawing cane :P 20:49:20 <frosch123> i wanted to comment that a yellow crawler feels unusual for a farm 20:49:29 <andythenorth> yeah, I was short of easy sprites 20:49:33 <frosch123> but maybe that's just me :p 20:49:34 <andythenorth> that was about 3 years ago :P 20:49:39 <andythenorth> I didn't draw any since then 20:49:48 <andythenorth> a truck or harvester might be better 20:49:57 <andythenorth> all FIRS farms look a bit 'same same' 20:50:27 <frosch123> well, i think you cannot figure out the vehicle type anyway, but on a farm i expect green or blue stuff, sometimes red 20:50:31 <frosch123> not yellow :p 20:50:41 <andythenorth> yeah, laziness :) 20:50:42 <frosch123> no idea what uk vehicles look like though 20:50:52 <andythenorth> I am really pleased with rubber plantation though https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5003/rubber_plantation.png 20:51:00 <Supercheese> I see yellow machinery on farms all over here 20:51:13 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - rubber_plantation.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/5003/rubber_plantation.png 20:51:19 <Supercheese> lots of red and green too 20:51:21 <andythenorth> I like that little old grey hut 20:51:23 <Supercheese> but plenty of yellow 20:51:40 <frosch123> the other sprites are the default ones, aren't they? 20:51:56 <frosch123> but yeah, for some reason default industries lack houses :) 20:52:04 <Supercheese> blue machinery? 20:52:12 <Supercheese> I don't see much of that 20:52:15 <andythenorth> ford 20:52:17 <andythenorth> new holland 20:52:39 <Supercheese> Yeah, New holland is probably the only blue stuff around here 20:52:51 <Supercheese> maybe husqvarna or however you spell that 20:52:58 <frosch123> old "lanz" stuff is often blue 20:53:23 <frosch123> also "hanomag" 20:54:13 <Supercheese> Hah, I spelled it correctly 20:54:17 <frosch123> generally "green" is more modern :p 20:54:32 <Supercheese> most large combines around here are red 20:54:47 <Supercheese> well, maybe not most 20:54:49 <Supercheese> but many 20:55:08 <Supercheese> ISR has some of those sprites IIRC 20:56:29 <frosch123> night 20:56:32 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:59:24 *** Zuu has quit IRC 20:59:55 <andythenorth> I should just fix ogfx mud :P 21:01:56 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 262:d4a96b6570c8: Feature: cargo graphics support for Sugar Beet cargo XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/d4a96b6570c8 21:10:29 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 263:e787acc6a39a: Codechange: provide a mechanism for handling multiple... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/e787acc6a39a 21:14:21 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 264:918668911914: Codechange: missed a few details about multiple cargo... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/918668911914 21:18:35 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:26:33 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 265:bcd62416918a: Feature: Grain Silos shows cargo waiting for addition... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/bcd62416918a 21:29:49 <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Bug #6155 (New): FIRS new cargoes XTransportmanX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6155 21:31:13 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 266:ead13bd31c85: Docs: update changelog preparatory to 1.3.0 release XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/ead13bd31c85 21:31:24 <Supercheese> Oooh, 1.3.0 21:31:28 <Supercheese> savegame compatible? 21:31:32 <andythenorth> probably 21:31:38 <Supercheese> :) 21:31:45 <Brot6> chips: update from 1.2.1 to 1.3.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/releases/1.3.0 21:31:46 <andythenorth> bananas in 60s or so 21:31:52 <Supercheese> Huzzah 21:32:18 <andythenorth> done 21:32:26 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 267:07be98d65bab: Added tag 1.3.0 for changeset ead13bd31c85 XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/07be98d65bab 21:32:28 * Supercheese downloads 21:32:42 <andythenorth> supports that new economy 21:33:00 <Supercheese> :D 21:44:13 <andythenorth> time for bed 21:52:19 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:59:48 *** Zuu has quit IRC