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00:13:00 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:18:50 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 06:35:58 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:55:56 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 06:56:47 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:32:59 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:07:58 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 103:f3efed0b39ee: Fix: Story book API detection failed on eg. 1.3.2-RC2 XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/f3efed0b39ee 08:07:58 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 104:7db9da422bf3: Version 31 XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/7db9da422bf3 08:07:58 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 105:d6947d0f54db: Fix: SuperLib 30 and 31 was broken for AIs XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/d6947d0f54db 08:07:58 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 106:25795dc641d0: Version 32 XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/25795dc641d0 08:08:01 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 107:a9620a8ce648: Fix: IsCargoSupplied used GS API calls XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/a9620a8ce648 08:08:04 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 108:b7da5b157a79: Fix: The NoBuild custom RPF had usage of GS API XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/b7da5b157a79 08:08:08 <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 109:fb410282da1a: Version 33 XZuuX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/fb410282da1a 08:09:34 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:32:03 <planetmaker> George, Additional buttons like CETS' download button can be added if you go in that project to settings->modules. Activate the module 'URL tabs'. Then you have available a settings->URL tabs where you can add these URL tabs like CETS 08:56:33 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:04:45 <George> Thank you 09:04:54 <George> Seems it works :) 09:05:38 <George> planetmaker: and who is the CETS coder? 09:06:10 <George> I ve looked at CETS code and was shoked 09:07:21 <George> I feel myself like a dinosaur near PC when compare my code with CETS code :( 09:27:24 <planetmaker> it's mostly eddi's code 09:29:30 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:37:01 *** zooks has quit IRC 10:02:07 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:15:25 <V453000> rhino power :D 12:17:49 <Alberth> o/ 12:18:05 <V453000> hy 12:18:24 <Alberth> unicorn power of course! :) 12:19:18 <V453000> http://pics.nase-bohren.de/unicorns-are-real.jpg 12:19:19 <Webster> Title: unicorns-are-real.jpg - pics.nase-bohren.de" target="_blank">pics.nase-bohren.de 0.06 - Wir bohren einfach weiter (at pics.nase-bohren.de" target="_blank">pics.nase-bohren.de) 12:19:24 <V453000> linked my pm originally 12:26:01 <planetmaker> :-) 12:26:04 * Alberth nods 12:26:52 <V453000> therefore in the name of astro science and stuff it must be true 12:27:50 <Alberth> it's at the Internet, therefore it must be true. QED 12:28:51 <V453000> . 12:54:42 *** zooks has quit IRC 13:13:27 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:00:29 <George> can someone explain this 14:00:30 <George> 0x22..0x2F reserved for other future GUIs with non-purchased vehicles. 14:01:01 <George> does it mean, that value 0x2* means vehicle is not build yet? 14:03:38 <planetmaker> yes 14:03:56 <Alberth> interesting conclusion :) 14:09:46 <George> Alberth: it is continuening our previous discussion obout the right way to prevent PARENT check 14:10:50 <Alberth> k, thanks for the explanation 14:12:16 <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action2/Vehicles#Introduction <- quote from that table, Alberth :-) 14:12:30 <George> #define is_not_build_yet() ((extra_callback_info1 & 0x2F) != 0x00) 14:13:15 <planetmaker> that's also true for 0x11 14:13:16 <Alberth> George: that matches with 0x01 too 14:13:36 <planetmaker> ... & 0x20 14:13:50 <planetmaker> not even that 14:13:52 <Alberth> == 0x20 14:13:58 <George> planetmaker: why 11? 14:14:10 <planetmaker> 1 & F = 1 14:14:19 <Alberth> George: some other random number than 2* 14:14:38 <George> 11 Vehicle is drawn in the vehicle details GUI. (This includes the refit GUI.) 14:14:53 <George> why is it not build? 14:14:57 <planetmaker> :-) it's how masking works, George 14:15:08 <planetmaker> 2F & 0x11 != 0 14:15:34 <planetmaker> 101111 14:15:42 <planetmaker> 010111 14:15:45 <planetmaker> some 1 match 14:15:47 <planetmaker> thus true 14:15:53 <George> planetmaker: are we speaking about wrong values selected from table or wrong check for thenm? 14:15:54 <planetmaker> the first is 2F 14:16:00 <planetmaker> the 2nd is 17 14:16:41 <George> step by step 14:17:25 <George> we have values 0x20..,0x2F for vehicles that are not built, right? 14:18:41 <planetmaker> yes 14:19:28 <planetmaker> and > 0x30 which must not match either as it's reserved. Could be anything 14:19:43 <planetmaker> thus the check you want is 14:20:00 <planetmaker> (var & 0xF0) == 0x20 14:20:12 <planetmaker> if that check is true, it's in the purchase list 14:20:36 <George> 30 would not mean purchase list? 14:20:50 <planetmaker> it can mean anything 14:20:57 <planetmaker> could mean purchase list, could not 14:21:16 <planetmaker> so could 51 14:21:19 <planetmaker> or F3 14:21:40 <George> ((extra_callback_info1 & 0x30) != 0x20)? 14:21:43 <planetmaker> you could also just check for (var > 0x20) 14:21:55 <planetmaker> >= 14:22:01 <planetmaker> then you catch the reserved cases, too 14:23:16 <planetmaker> George, you want to check whether the first nibble matches "2". And nothing else 14:23:28 <planetmaker> (then it's definitely purchase list) 14:23:35 <planetmaker> if it matches 3 ... F it's undefined 14:23:36 <George> So you suggest to interpretate values above 0x30 as purchase list too and prevent PARENT check for them? 14:23:43 <planetmaker> yes 14:24:01 <George> Ok 14:44:55 <George> Should I return purchase graphics or empty graphics when extra_callback_info1 >= 0x20? 14:49:59 <planetmaker> George, obviously you want to return the appropriate sprites for 0x20 and 0x21 14:51:02 <George> but I retun graphics for purchse, do I need to treturn it in default branch too? 14:51:33 <George> graphics 14:51:33 <George> { default: ntv_get_spriteset; 14:51:33 <George> purchase: ntv_get_purchase_spriteset; } 14:52:17 <George> switch (FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, ntv_get_spriteset, 14:52:17 <George> is_not_build_yet() ) 14:52:17 <George> { 1: ntv_get_purchase_spriteset; 14:52:17 <George> ntv_get_spriteset1;} 14:52:34 <George> Isn't it a duplication? 14:53:11 <planetmaker> purchase is purchase list. Not generally 'not built' 14:53:35 *** Lord_Aro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:53:35 *** LordAro is now known as Guest384 14:53:35 *** Lord_Aro is now known as LordAro 14:53:44 <planetmaker> in purchase list you don't need the check, afaik. As the vehicle never is built there 14:54:51 <George> do you mean I need to return empty sprite instead? 14:55:41 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #6209 (New): Absolute unix file system paths causes livelock in nml path ... XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6209 14:56:52 <planetmaker> no 14:57:35 <planetmaker> Vehicle is drawn in the exclusive preview GUI or in the advertisement news. <-- otherwise you return empty sprites here. Which you likely don't want 14:57:48 <planetmaker> Or unless I'm wrong and purchase callback works for that, too. I don't know 14:59:30 *** Guest384 has quit IRC 15:02:59 <George> I do not know too 15:03:07 <George> Who knows??? 15:04:52 <planetmaker> George, it simply doesn't hurt your purpose to add that check... 15:05:47 <planetmaker> and... no-one who was around the last 6 months knows unless that person reads nml source 15:06:47 <George> BTW, are there station sets coded with NML? 15:07:33 <planetmaker> no 15:07:40 <planetmaker> nml does not yet support stations :-( 15:19:00 <Alberth> first puzzle: how to express a station in nml :) 15:19:58 <planetmaker> The specs on how it should look on the "surface" is probably not that difficult 15:26:36 <Alberth> solving the puzzle of getting dinner has a much closer deadline ;) 15:33:27 <planetmaker> :-) MUCH 15:40:40 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2746 16:17:57 <George> Is it possible to somehow get information about average mape size that players play on the multiplayer game servers? 16:18:36 <George> average map is 512x512, 1024x1024 or even larger? 16:29:15 <Brot6> xussrset: compile of r1062 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/ERROR/r1062 16:34:07 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:47:31 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:53:34 <planetmaker> George, other than browsing server list ingame and looking at that info, I guess not 16:53:45 <planetmaker> quak 16:54:01 <frosch123> moin 17:17:53 <Brot6> xussrset: compile of r1062 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/nightlies/ERROR/r1062 17:19:41 <Brot6> fish: update from r1156 to r1159 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r1159 17:59:09 <George> planetmaker: May be there is some user here who plays often and knows, what do servers usually suggest? 17:59:38 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1061 to r1063 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/nightlies/r1063 17:59:41 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1061 to r1063 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1063 18:21:18 <planetmaker> George, that really depends. Some people like large maps, some like small(er) maps 18:21:59 <planetmaker> I can tell you what I prefer. Which is also what we use on the coop servers, that's maps with less than 1 million tiles, thus < 1024^2, usually 512^2 or equivalent size 18:22:07 <planetmaker> But others prefer more sparse maps, but bigger 18:22:18 <planetmaker> I think smaller is better as I can build more, but... 18:30:53 <Alberth> I have come to think it depends on what you're used to, ie deserty environments like australie or america with lots of nothing versus european style, cramped together 18:31:49 <Alberth> s/lie/lia/ 18:31:49 <Brot6> Alberth meant: "I have come to think it depends on what you're used to, ie deserty environments like australia or america with lots of nothing versus european style, cramped together" 18:32:20 <Alberth> s/rot6/ig brother/ 18:32:20 <Brot6> Alberth: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" 18:42:22 <frosch123> s/you/me/ 18:42:22 <Brot6> frosch123: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" 18:42:25 <frosch123> s/you/me/ 18:42:25 <Brot6> frosch123: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" 18:42:46 <frosch123> hmm, i expected a different reation 18:44:32 <Alberth> :) 18:45:26 <Alberth> it would have been fun if your last line of a few days ago happened to have "you" in it :) 18:49:02 <frosch123> Be yourself -- except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn. 18:49:06 <frosch123> s/you/me 18:49:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:49:12 <frosch123> damn :/ 18:49:17 <frosch123> screwed it up 18:51:03 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:06:57 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:07:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:15:08 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:28:49 <George> s/you/me/ 19:28:49 <Brot6> George: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" 19:28:58 <George> :)))) 19:53:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:10:18 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:19:57 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1160:35e13040ad1b: Docs: improved code-reference page XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/35e13040ad1b 20:20:15 <Brot6> fish: update from r1159 to r1160 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1160 20:49:30 <Brot6> fish: update from r1160 to r1162 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1162 20:49:42 <Brot6> FISH - Bug #6206 (Closed): r1159 breaks bundles XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6206 20:49:42 <Brot6> FISH - Bug #6206 (Closed): r1159 breaks bundles XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6206#change-16664 20:49:42 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1161:84e2211bd2e3: Docs: WIP on code reference page XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/84e2211bd2e3 20:49:42 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1162:6568829f418e: Fix: remove broken build introduced in r1159 (planetmaker) (close... 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