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00:56:36 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 01:18:24 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:27:24 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 03:48:08 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:56:09 <Brot6> NUTS Unrealistic Train Set - Revision 53:23eeed020ed1: RAINBOWSLUG: code comments, changelog XV453000X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/revisions/23eeed020ed1 06:32:42 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:54:31 <Brot6> FISH - Bug #6302 (New): Restore the correct blue bounds to spritesheets XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6302 07:27:47 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:51:31 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:01:39 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 09:56:13 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:59:43 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:46:06 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:46:54 * frosch123 updates nuts 10:49:23 <V453000> frosch123: there is some strange issue 10:49:31 <V453000> I think I hit max number of random things or something 10:49:43 <V453000> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2543/ this is the slug switch thing 10:49:55 <V453000> but e.g. some custom heads only appear with only certain colours 10:50:06 <V453000> e.g. reverse slug is only dark blue and with only standard head 10:50:32 <V453000> I have to go now, but you can see how it works on our servers :P stable with 1.3.2 or public server 10:51:08 <V453000> my question is, is there any way to get all of the 280 random outputs? 10:51:58 <V453000> gtg, back in a couple hours 11:22:32 <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Bug #6305 (New): Flickering pylons on freight station Xmart3pX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6305 11:41:37 <^Spike^> frosch123 11:41:44 <^Spike^> can you tell me what you need on the clone dev? 11:41:50 <^Spike^> repo access or something? 11:43:12 <frosch123> kind of, i want to pull/push to /home/hg/firs-clone 11:43:19 <^Spike^> ehm... 11:43:26 <frosch123> hgweb seems to run on the old devzone or something 11:43:32 <frosch123> so it does not even have that repo 11:43:40 <^Spike^> that could be correct :) 11:43:52 <^Spike^> but you got the ability to push/pull via ssh now already? 11:44:03 <^Spike^> else i need to figure out a way to make hgweb work on the clone 11:44:12 <frosch123> also, if you can give me a hint what the thingie at the top of the repository tab in the old devzone does :) 11:44:22 <frosch123> it gives a repository url 11:44:28 <^Spike^> ah the checkout plugin 11:44:33 <frosch123> but i do not know what rules it uses 11:44:48 <^Spike^> yeah we got an issue with that... it's not compatible with the new version of redmine 11:44:56 <frosch123> i would guess it checks on /home/ or something, and does not modify external urls 11:45:05 <^Spike^> /home/hg 11:45:27 <frosch123> there is also /home/git 11:46:13 <^Spike^> git seems to not have much repos... 11:46:29 <frosch123> no :p 11:47:00 <^Spike^> let's see if i can get a working version of the checkout plugin 11:47:15 <frosch123> well, ignore git, no newgrf uses it 11:47:37 <frosch123> ^Spike^: does it have some regex or something to determine the right url? 11:47:44 <frosch123> i need to duplicate that to my eints scripts 11:47:56 <^Spike^> i'm checking if i can get the checkout plugin to work again 11:48:03 <frosch123> i can read the /home/hg/ thingie from the database 11:48:10 <frosch123> but i need some rule to determine the url 11:49:32 <^Spike^> bleh... that checkout plugin fails on the new version :/ 11:50:01 <^Spike^> gmmm a fork that might work... 11:55:03 <^Spike^> determine url for? 11:55:28 <frosch123> so eints know where to pull/push to 11:55:53 <frosch123> as said, i can get the /home/hg thingie from the database 11:56:03 <frosch123> but i cannot pull/push with that one 11:56:32 <^Spike^> url is as i can see/understand ssh://hg@dev.openttdcoop.org/<project> 11:56:45 <^Spike^> and seems the same for http/https 11:56:59 <frosch123> well, as long as the repo has the same name as the project 11:57:07 <^Spike^> it always has... 11:57:22 <^Spike^> the projectname(shortname) is used for repo name 11:57:23 <frosch123> but e.g. for some reason i have no idea of, pm chosed to name the sandbox repo firs-clone, while the project is named eints-sandbox 11:58:17 <frosch123> maybe we should just rename /home/hg/firs-clone to /home/hg/eints-sandbox then 11:58:27 <^Spike^> true... but you can get the repo patch right? 11:58:30 <^Spike^> path* 11:58:39 <frosch123> then i only need to filter out the repositories that are not hosted on devzone 11:58:39 <^Spike^> if you just strip the /home/hg part from that? 11:58:41 <frosch123> or do not use hg 11:58:45 <^Spike^> (cut on / perhaps) 11:59:02 <^Spike^> hmm 11:59:02 <frosch123> ^Spike^: well, that's exactly what i am asking for :p 11:59:19 <frosch123> but i wondered whether you can read the exact rule from the plugin 11:59:25 <frosch123> instead of me reverse-engineering it 11:59:28 <^Spike^> cause repo url checkout for eints-sandbox would be ssh://hg.openttdcoop.org/firs-clone 11:59:54 <^Spike^> we got a sandbox on current dev 12:00:02 <^Spike^> why are we making it so hard on ourselves? :) 12:00:33 <frosch123> we want a firs clone, so there is some reasonable to translate 12:00:45 <frosch123> sandbox would be all different again 12:00:59 <^Spike^> hold on... i'm creating a subporject on sanbiox 12:01:09 <frosch123> also, i access the new redmine database, while the repos are on the old devzone 12:02:37 <^Spike^> great... i hit a error @ current dev... :) 12:02:40 <^Spike^> gotta love that :) 12:07:04 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/eints-test registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/eints-test 12:07:04 <Brot6> repository /home/hg/eints-test created 12:10:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:17:14 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1192:7455c52b0102: Docs: code reference will make use of docstring where provided XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/7455c52b0102 12:18:03 <Brot6> fish: update from r1191 to r1192 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1192 12:22:05 <^Spike^> hmmm 12:22:09 <^Spike^> seems that normally... 12:22:15 <^Spike^> it should be the project ident frosch123 12:22:21 <^Spike^> if the crontab creates it 12:22:26 <^Spike^> so yes 12:22:30 <^Spike^> we should rename the hg repo 12:23:04 <^Spike^> frosch123 12:23:08 <^Spike^> i renamed the repo 12:23:14 <^Spike^> to eints-sandbox 12:23:29 <frosch123> can i access it somehow from the translator vm? 12:23:43 <^Spike^> ssh would be the best bet.... 12:23:59 <^Spike^> from the translator vm that would be 10.10.101.203 12:24:01 <^Spike^> for ip 12:24:04 <^Spike^> and just 22 for port 12:24:32 <^Spike^> just make sure that is easily changeable cause when we migrate we will use hgweb again 12:24:38 <^Spike^> only it would be a pain to set that up now... 12:24:46 <^Spike^> don't know if it is easily changeable on your end? 12:24:50 <frosch123> i am using a local "eints" login currently 12:24:53 <^Spike^> or does it just do hg stuff and does not bother? 12:24:59 <frosch123> what would i use to login to the repo vm? 12:25:05 <^Spike^> hmmm 12:26:01 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1193:a75300441518: Docs: improved docstrings for ship subclasses XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/a75300441518 12:26:26 <Brot6> fish: update from r1192 to r1193 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1193 12:27:22 <^Spike^> would need ssh key stuff for thaqt... :/ 12:27:24 <^Spike^> that... 12:27:28 <^Spike^> would you need push and pull? 12:27:42 <frosch123> pull is more important 12:27:56 <frosch123> push is not that important for testing 12:28:08 <frosch123> it's ok to see what the script comitted 12:28:13 <frosch123> no need to actually push it 12:28:33 <frosch123> maybe just copy eints-sandbox to the old devzone then? 12:28:36 <frosch123> and use hgweb? :p 12:28:51 <^Spike^> possible... but you don't for the same db then... 12:28:53 <^Spike^> does that matter? :) 12:29:02 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1194:9313fb353801: Codechange: better formatting for docstring XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/9313fb353801 12:29:06 <frosch123> pull would be anonymous 12:29:18 <^Spike^> then well for me it doesn't matter 12:29:38 <^Spike^> you got the proper permissions on current devzone aswell? 12:29:46 <Brot6> fish: update from r1193 to r1194 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1194 12:29:55 <frosch123> no 12:30:05 <frosch123> my key is on translator, public server, and nightly server 12:30:20 <frosch123> public and nightly also only as regular user 12:30:54 <^Spike^> well i more meant in redmine :) 12:30:55 <^Spike^> but well :D 12:31:06 <frosch123> i would access the clone redmine 12:31:07 <^Spike^> i can clone if to my subproject aswell 12:31:11 <frosch123> i do not need the old redmine :p 12:31:46 <^Spike^> i only called it eints-test :) 12:31:50 <^Spike^> but it should be there :) 12:32:16 <frosch123> it doesn't have the eints roles nor the eints login and password 12:32:25 <frosch123> so, only clone redmine will work 12:32:36 <frosch123> and well, what's else the use of the clone redmine? :p 12:32:37 <^Spike^> done 12:32:49 <^Spike^> test upgrade? :) 12:32:59 <^Spike^> abuse it till we move it all to a new server etc? :) 12:33:13 <^Spike^> aka the clone redmine will be the production one with postgresql 12:33:21 <^Spike^> until we get a new server sorted as we want it 12:33:30 <^Spike^> so it's an intermedia step before moving on 12:33:35 <^Spike^> intermediate* 12:33:50 <^Spike^> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/eints-test/ 12:42:49 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1195:032d6a66dcfc: Codechange: add a property to ships for tracking graphics status XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/032d6a66dcfc 12:43:00 <Brot6> fish: update from r1194 to r1195 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1195 12:49:45 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1196:7da931dce0d0: Codechange: set the correct current status of graphics for all sh... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/7da931dce0d0 12:49:53 <Brot6> fish: update from r1195 to r1196 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1196 12:51:46 <^Spike^> frosch123 does that help you already? :) 12:51:56 <frosch123> i hope so 12:52:02 <frosch123> thanks :) 12:52:08 <^Spike^> just highlight me when needed 12:52:56 <^Spike^> tomorrow pm and i will be looking to switchover to the clone... 12:53:04 <^Spike^> yes we might lose some functions.... 12:53:11 <^Spike^> but we'll have an updated platform to work with 12:53:16 <^Spike^> and works on pgsql 12:53:28 <^Spike^> from there on we can tear apart devzone into smaller/easier chunks 12:55:50 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1197:525ffd2d290b: Docs: show graphics status in code reference XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/525ffd2d290b 12:56:12 <Brot6> fish: update from r1196 to r1197 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1197 12:59:14 <^Spike^> cause that's the issue we currently have... 12:59:22 <^Spike^> and bundles was one of the things to easily start with :) 13:06:29 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1198:1c469b794576: Codechange: add fish*.tar.zip to hgignore XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/1c469b794576 13:06:33 <Brot6> fish: update from r1197 to r1198 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1198 13:14:11 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1199:3e8bbe994802: Change: test graphics for Nieuwpoort container feeder (DanMacK) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/3e8bbe994802 13:14:18 <Brot6> fish: update from r1198 to r1199 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1199 13:19:13 <andythenorth> where would we be without DanMacK? :) 13:23:37 <Alberth> totally lost 13:24:58 <andythenorth> short on ships 13:25:06 <andythenorth> and NA trains 13:29:37 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2544/ <- V453000: does that make it better? 13:34:31 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2545/ <- V453000: broke something, this might be better 13:34:38 <frosch123> but i might still have broken more stuff 13:37:50 <frosch123> V453000: to apply diffs, you need to run "hg import --no-commit http://paste.openttdcoop.org/raw/2545/" 13:37:58 <V453000> I iz here 13:38:00 <V453000> hi 13:39:15 <V453000> abort outstanding uncommited changes 13:39:16 <V453000> duh 13:39:53 <V453000> hm I didnt change anything in nuts.nml :s 13:41:54 <V453000> I see some store temp madness :D 13:42:31 <V453000> but hm how do I apply the diff if it says "abort outstanding uncommitted changes" ? wrote hg import --no-commit http://paste.openttdcoop.org/raw/2545/ when in my NUTS folder 13:42:39 <V453000> (the place where I run "compile") 13:42:49 <frosch123> what does "hg diff" tell you? 13:43:04 <V453000> changes in some .png files 13:43:21 <frosch123> then add a "-f" 13:43:32 <frosch123> hg import -f --no-commit ... 13:43:34 <V453000> ok 13:44:08 <V453000> applying :> 13:44:37 <V453000> kompiling 13:44:48 <V453000> iz baking 13:54:29 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:00:14 <V453000> frosch123: all of them are somehow dark blue only 14:00:32 <frosch123> all? :o 14:01:06 <V453000> all 14:01:16 <V453000> reversed ones dont seem to include cat / hat 14:01:25 <V453000> only standard/unicorn/bigger eyes 14:01:27 <frosch123> oh, i see, i used the wrong .grf for testing :p 14:01:31 <V453000> :D 14:02:36 <V453000> cloned about 400 trains, all dark blue, no reversed cat or hat 14:03:39 <frosch123> hmm, i even broke the purchase lit? 14:03:44 <frosch123> how is that even possible :p 14:03:59 <V453000> I dont see anything broken there ... yet 14:04:17 <frosch123> it's completely black for me :p 14:04:53 <V453000> o_O 14:04:56 <V453000> is fine for me 14:08:55 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/nuts.grf this came out for me 14:16:36 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/blackslug.png <- reverted my changes, it's still all black 14:17:21 <frosch123> nmlc warning: "nuts.nml", line 7707: "gfx/SLUGwtf2.png" at [x: 453, y: 87]: 80 of 840 pixels (9%) are pure white (cached warning) <- related? 14:17:40 <frosch123> no, that's only the hat 14:17:57 <V453000> I dont understand how 14:18:00 <V453000> but the black is correct 14:18:19 <V453000> my purchasemenu.png does have only the black one 14:20:32 <frosch123> it was not black in yesterdays' release 14:22:54 <V453000> exactly 14:23:02 <V453000> but I dont see where is the colourful thing coming from 14:26:16 <frosch123> it ran away over night :p 14:26:44 <V453000> it wasnt there for a long time in fact 14:26:51 <V453000> ever since I made the first version of rainbow slug 14:26:55 <V453000> how is that possible? :D 14:27:17 <V453000> the colourful purchase menu sprite doesnt exist in my purchase menu .png at all 14:27:37 <frosch123> do you remember drawing it? 14:27:52 <V453000> yes, but I didnt like and overdrew it with the black 14:28:31 <frosch123> so the nml caching messed up? 14:28:39 <V453000> I suppose 14:28:46 <V453000> reboot I guess 14:29:03 <V453000> I might have not rebooted by pc for a week or so 14:29:07 <frosch123> nah. it's stored on disk 14:29:28 <frosch123> nml creates a "nuts.grf.cache" files 14:29:39 <V453000> hm 14:29:41 <frosch123> delete it and the cacheindex 14:29:46 <frosch123> then all is created from scratch 14:30:34 <V453000> done, baking again 14:43:50 <V453000> frosch123: ok, the purchase menu is black now for me too, but all of them are still dkblue etc as I siad 14:43:51 <V453000> said 14:43:53 <V453000> :| 14:43:55 <V453000> what do with that? 14:44:52 <frosch123> i am testign 15:00:50 <frosch123> ah, found my mistake 15:09:06 <frosch123> V453000: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2546/ + http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2547/ 15:09:13 <frosch123> splitted it into two pieces for easier testing 15:09:28 <frosch123> the first one only deduplicates stuff without changing any behaviour 15:09:35 <frosch123> the second one makes the colours and reverse hats work 15:10:23 <V453000> so I should apply both, correct? 15:10:53 <frosch123> yeah, and revert the older one 15:11:02 <frosch123> don't revert your graphics though :p 15:11:34 <V453000> uhmm 15:11:37 <V453000> how do I revert it 15:11:45 <frosch123> hg revert nuts.nml 15:11:58 <frosch123> assuming you have no other changes in that file 15:12:05 <V453000> nope :) 15:14:21 <V453000> applied, bakind :( 15:14:23 <V453000> kaing :) 15:14:26 <V453000> omfg keyboard :) 15:14:33 <V453000> anyway, how do you like them unicorns? :P 15:16:07 <frosch123> hmm, the behaviour is still weird 15:16:11 <frosch123> i might need to fix ottd :p 15:16:24 <V453000> I was kind of scared about that :) 15:17:17 <frosch123> anyway, the first vehicle now defines hat and stuff, while the lat vehicle defines the colour scheme 15:17:32 <frosch123> so, if you attach multiple slugs the last one defines the colour, and the first one the head 15:17:36 <V453000> XD 15:17:49 <V453000> nice idea 15:18:03 <frosch123> just ottd does not seem to update the colours when rearrangine trains in depot 15:18:09 <frosch123> they are onlyupdated when leaving depot 15:18:20 <V453000> :o 15:18:21 <frosch123> V453000: was the easiest option to make it work :p 15:18:27 <V453000> I figured :) 15:20:02 <frosch123> anyway, the hat is most weird one 15:20:08 <V453000> :> 15:20:10 <frosch123> esp. in NE direction 15:20:17 <V453000> fashion? :) 15:20:50 <frosch123> i only saw it in the depot view first, where it is not exactly recogniseable 15:20:59 <frosch123> but on track it looks nice :) 15:21:04 <frosch123> depot is too small :p 15:21:46 <frosch123> the front vehilces often have some "," at the bottom 15:21:59 <frosch123> i don't know what that is, it looks weird to me 15:22:34 <frosch123> it works for the real slugs 15:22:41 <V453000> hm :) 15:23:00 <V453000> might make the top(larger) "," things visible also with hat 15:23:02 <frosch123> but looks weird for unicorns 15:23:07 <frosch123> though not all unicorns have it 15:23:32 <V453000> they do 15:23:38 <V453000> probably just less visible with some colours 15:24:03 <frosch123> black does not seem to show them 15:25:11 <V453000> its just a recolour 15:25:23 <V453000> they are very bright so might be grey not black 15:25:34 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:25:40 <frosch123> ah, maybe just depot grey :p 15:25:45 <frosch123> so, invisible :) 15:26:18 <V453000> actually yes :) 15:29:12 <V453000> seeeeems to work? :) 15:29:48 <V453000> or what behaviour is still weird frosch123 ? 15:31:00 <frosch123> attach a slug to another one in depot 15:31:13 <frosch123> then compare the colour of it with the colour it gets when starting or refitting 15:31:29 <V453000> mah 15:31:34 <V453000> people arent meant to do that anyway :P 15:31:41 <V453000> if you could make it work, would be nice, but other than that... 15:31:51 <frosch123> it's an ottd issue 15:31:54 <frosch123> no nuts issue :) 15:32:01 <V453000> right 15:32:13 <V453000> well I could even disable the attach allowance for slugs to multiply 15:32:17 <frosch123> broken not that long ago 15:32:21 <V453000> oh 15:32:29 <V453000> hm 15:32:31 <V453000> :) 15:33:39 <V453000> I will just disable the attach for now 15:33:57 <frosch123> why that? 15:34:04 <V453000> true too, screw it 15:34:07 <frosch123> changing slug colour when attaching is quite wtf :) 15:34:52 <V453000> the 2-headed and no capacity for engines already is demotivating enough not to do it :) 15:35:00 <V453000> and even so, it is just more rainbow :D 15:35:30 <V453000> ok :> changing version strings and releasing again 15:36:10 <frosch123> keep the black purchase list? 15:36:16 <frosch123> and white head? 15:36:54 <V453000> meh, can change that anytime in the future 15:37:03 <V453000> and I kind of like it :) 15:37:26 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1200:16ffcf9d5f64: Fix: Thunder Bay Hovercraft had wrong buy menu position (partiall... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/16ffcf9d5f64 15:37:27 <V453000> gives a hint that the slug can look variously 15:37:30 <Brot6> fish: update from r1199 to r1200 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1200 15:38:25 <andythenorth> bbl 15:38:27 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:58:54 <V453000> thanks so much frosch123 :) NUTS 0.5.8 on the fruit thing now :) 15:59:04 <frosch123> :) 15:59:04 <V453000> I see you already did some magic in openttd itself :P 15:59:22 <Alberth> all part of the service :) 16:46:58 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:52:35 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:53:57 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:03:18 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 1201:4a5017f7043a: Feature: steam-era graphics for Harbour Point Utility Vessel XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/4a5017f7043a 17:03:45 <Brot6> fish: update from r1200 to r1201 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r1201 17:11:35 <Brot6> Admin Soap - Revision 24:895e1d722720: rcon replies, autoconnect, pause enhancements, code polishing XT. 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