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00:04:18 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:05:51 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:06:28 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:43:26 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 10:23:50 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #6098: Cargo classes Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6098#change-17075 11:04:44 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5597: Readme and NewGRF info Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5597#change-17084 12:13:07 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #6275: Cost tuning (realistic costs, default 20% of IRL prices) Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6275#change-17087 12:16:09 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5561 (Closed): Gbln 3rd var-> Gbln-t Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5561#change-17090 13:10:44 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17102 13:21:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #6287: Adoption to new build services / distributed VCS XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6287#change-17105 14:19:51 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 232:edf0ccc6d0bb: Fix: Deprecated sprites with confusing names removed Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/edf0ccc6d0bb 14:19:51 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 233:fca5323150f2: Fix: Sprite filenames are now consistent with the rest... 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Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/5f8b3b45a602 14:19:55 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 235:5af30f981acb: Feature: Ocpp flat wagon Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/5af30f981acb 14:21:02 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5936 (Closed): M100 metro Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5936#change-17108 14:36:56 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17111 14:38:02 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 236:21577fff833c: Fix: Fot and fots sprites separated Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/21577fff833c 14:38:02 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 237:59e9d6f2f9ec: Feature: Ohn, Soi, Sonk, Tabd wagon templates Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/59e9d6f2f9ec 14:38:02 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5957: Wagon changes Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5957#change-17114 14:44:01 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17120 14:56:02 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:59:48 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17123 15:05:02 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:45:50 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17126 15:52:45 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17129 15:57:37 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17132 16:03:11 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 238:d9b25cb842e0: Feature: Shunting locomotives Tve2 and Tve3, Tve1 slig... Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/d9b25cb842e0 16:03:11 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5900 (Closed): Tve1, Tve2 and Tve3 switcher locomotives Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5900#change-17135 16:34:07 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:51:52 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17138 16:58:38 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17141 17:10:05 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 239:46dc0bf59b62: Feature: Efs as a separate coach Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/46dc0bf59b62 17:10:05 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Revision 240:73c2bedbd572: Feature: M100 sounds (same as Sv1) Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/finnishtrainset/repository/revisions/73c2bedbd572 17:10:31 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17144 17:17:42 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:19:19 <Brot6> finnishtrainset: update from r231 to r240 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/finnishtrainset/nightlies/r240 17:25:37 <Brot6> firs: update from r3805 to r3806 done (26 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r3806 17:28:25 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17147 17:49:13 *** George has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:49:38 <George> frosch123: are you here? 17:49:57 <George> A question about FS#5720 17:50:03 <Alberth> if auto-completion works, he is 17:51:20 <George> Your answer does not answer my question. It answers the question why the train can't be autoreplaced. But it does not answer why the wagon can't be autoreplaced? 17:51:48 <George> How do autoreplace work? 17:52:09 <frosch123> for autoreplacing the train is disassembled completely, then single vehicle are reneweed 17:52:13 <frosch123> then it is reassembled 17:52:43 <George> how is it disaasembled and how is it assembled? 17:53:20 <frosch123> as it likes, like a player would do 17:53:25 <George> in case it is disassembled from back to front and reassembled from front to back it should work 17:54:07 <George> in case it is diassembled from front to back it would not be disassembled 17:56:22 <George> so, when it starts disassembling, it trys to get vehicle at position 2 or position "last"? 17:59:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 18:07:51 <George> frosch123: ?? How does it disassembled? 18:08:01 <frosch123> as it likes to 18:14:11 <George> You mean the oder can be different? 18:14:52 <Alberth> it means there is no fixed order to do things, different versions may use different approaches 18:15:55 <George> versions of OTTD? 18:16:26 <Alberth> probably it also means the same version may do different things, depending on the precise consist and the precise operation it must do 18:16:39 <frosch123> the only chance there would be, would be to only apply the attachment checks in the end 18:16:41 <Alberth> yeah OpenTTD versions 18:16:46 <frosch123> but i have no idea what impacts that may have 18:17:01 <frosch123> as the general idea of autoreplace is to just do what a player would do 18:17:38 <George> a player assembles train from head to back 18:17:56 <George> OTTD should disassemble from back to front 18:18:17 <frosch123> i am used to being allowed to assemble in any order i like 18:19:17 * Alberth also inserts wagons at random places in the train if it happens to be needed 18:19:38 <George> That would provide too complicated starts/stop CB 18:20:27 <frosch123> planetmaker: ^Spike^: i give up, i need to wait for the right repo server and redmine. i still cannot checkout eints-sandbox :/ 18:22:11 <^Spike^> :/ 18:22:51 <George> frosch123: what is the profit to have any assemble oder during autoreplace? 18:25:11 <Alberth> less player frustration? 18:27:25 <George> autoreplace is not done by player 18:27:33 <George> but by OTTD 18:27:48 <Alberth> not true, I do sometimes replace the engine manually 18:28:04 <George> tis is not AUTOreplace 18:28:08 <Alberth> eg when I want to replace engines of just 1 line 18:28:26 <George> This is not AUTOreplace 18:29:11 <Alberth> what is the profit of restricting the autoreplace case if you need the general replacement anyway for the manual case? 18:30:22 <George> profit is that the train check is done via allow_attach CB and not start/stop CB 18:30:33 <George> that is easier 18:38:57 <George> When I copy a train for autoreplace it works. It means that it is assebled in the right order, so only disaasembling is wrong? 18:42:52 <Alberth> there is no single way defined, any order may be used 18:44:22 <Alberth> if you make it work today based on what OpenTTD happens to do in your test, it may break again tomorrow, or with another consist 18:49:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:49:36 <George> I did a test. Looks like it disaasembles consist from front to back 18:50:09 <George> I request to define the only correct order from back to front 18:55:40 <Alberth> you replace an engine not by picking up the front engine and throwing it away, and then buying a new one to add at the front? 18:57:37 <George> In case it a single engine yes 18:58:17 <George> In case it is multisection engine I have to remove wagons, replace parts and then connect wagons back 19:00:27 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:38:37 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17150 19:41:44 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:01:01 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 20:14:51 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17153 20:19:35 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:01:46 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17150 21:04:16 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17174 21:20:56 <Brot6> Finnish Trainset - Feature #5438: Sound effect quality increase Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5438#change-17177 21:30:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3807:f95e600444d4: Change: work in progress on Bulk Termina... 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