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03:47:04 <Brot6> Feature #6389 (New): Base Empty Graphics for Gen 2 "Brit" style wagons XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6389 03:52:16 <Brot6> Bug #6390 (New): Remove "Univ" Gen 2 sprites in favour of "NA" Gen 2 sprite sets XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6390 04:04:02 <Brot6> Feature #6391 (New): EF-1 Electric British Locomotive XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6391 06:58:02 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #108-push: SUCCESS in 34 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/108/ 07:02:46 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #109-push: SUCCESS in 22 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/109/ 07:10:57 <Brot6> Revision 110:ca7c4a1771a3: Change: add 2-6-4 tank (wrong graphics) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/ca7c4a1771a3 07:10:57 <Brot6> Revision 111:9e8139809efb: Codechange: switch class used for tank locomotive XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/9e8139809efb 07:13:23 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:15:59 <dihedral> ^Spike^, planetmaker - can you guys write an email or anything to let me know what you want backed up? 07:35:26 <planetmaker> dihedral, yes... but isn't backup a push process? 07:55:15 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 08:29:33 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:32:03 <dihedral> planetmaker, nope 08:32:09 <dihedral> i am fetching the data with rsync 08:32:27 <dihedral> mainly because BackupPC does not offer push methods 08:34:44 <planetmaker> But shouldn't we be able to configure what we need backuped? 08:34:52 <planetmaker> directly 08:37:34 <planetmaker> honestly I don't know how this is setup. Nor how I would access it if I need it. Nor how to change what to backup. Can you shed some light please? 08:39:15 <planetmaker> All I know really is that we backup to your server and you have a VM on ours in exchange for yours 08:40:14 <planetmaker> And there's no swiss guy around whom I could actually ask 09:29:45 *** zooks has quit IRC 09:31:36 <dihedral> but there is a german guy you can ask ;-) 09:31:44 <dihedral> and a german guy you can call as well :-) 09:34:55 *** oskari89 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:04:22 <planetmaker> I think I just did that... 10:04:49 <planetmaker> ...but only got a smart reply 10:20:50 <dihedral> no, it was duly noted, and i shall provide all details you need, seeing as it has a beautiful webinterface which will answer all your questions... 10:20:57 <dihedral> ... regarding the backups for openttdcoop 11:05:04 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:13:03 <planetmaker> :-) 12:13:22 <planetmaker> V453000, did you try yesterday the new clone thing with your repo? 12:14:51 <V453000> I wanted to but I was getting a brutal amount of bluescreens so I didnt manage to do it in the end :D round 2 tonight 12:15:05 <V453000> apparently installing steam makes my SSD cry 12:15:17 <planetmaker> k. I'm home tonight, so I shall be available, too 12:15:31 <V453000> :) 12:16:03 <planetmaker> not that it's related to your bluescreens? (How do you manage to get them... win7 is quite stable, no?) 12:16:55 <V453000> I dont think it is related to windows entirely 12:17:09 <V453000> the system might be messy, but the problem is that my SSD turns itself off sometimes 12:17:11 <planetmaker> I don't believe in this matter anything anymore 12:17:29 <planetmaker> as I *really* have no clue as to where it comes from 12:17:35 <V453000> apparently when I update/install stuff on the SSD, there is very high likelyhood to get BSOD 12:17:43 <V453000> :D mhm :s 12:18:03 <planetmaker> also... would I be allowed to test a commit to your repo? (I'd probably commit a Makefile piecewise - no need to use, but not totally senseless either) 12:18:18 <V453000> of course :) dont even need to ask 12:18:51 <planetmaker> I actually might ask you to change the PW on your devzone account and give me your new one so that I might try with your account. But not now :-) 12:19:11 <V453000> oh sure, later :) 12:19:16 <V453000> I am open to all solutions 12:19:23 <planetmaker> yeah, not now. It's kinda the last thing I want to ask / try :-) 12:19:34 <V453000> :) 12:19:44 <planetmaker> but if it works for me with your account... it must be local to your machine :-) 12:20:27 <V453000> aye 12:41:16 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:42:58 <juzza1> im trying to make some macros... why does this http://pastebin.com/EnGwukfU expand to FOOFOOFOO? instead of BARBARBAR 12:43:18 <juzza1> using the makefile for NML 12:44:23 <planetmaker> double expansion is tricky 12:46:41 <juzza1> replacing the third line with simply ARG returns BAR, so the concatenation somehow breaks it 12:50:51 <DevZone> Project Finnish Rail Infrastructure build #26-push: FAILURE in 10 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/friss/26/ 12:56:56 <Brot6> Revision 65:f561f8281e94: More level crossing variants Xkyosuke1989X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/friss/repository/revisions/f561f8281e94 12:58:15 <planetmaker> juzza1, basically this is the manual ;-) http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/ 12:58:16 <Webster> Title: The C Preprocessor (at gcc.gnu.org) 12:58:52 <planetmaker> it might explain behaviour, possibly in the operator preference or macro expansion rules 13:00:18 <juzza1> as far as i understood that, the macro arguments inside the macro body are not expanded if there is a preceeding # or ## operator... so doing what i want might not be possible (at least not effortlesly) 13:02:03 <planetmaker> don't over-engineer it by means of too clever macros. I did that mistake a few times 13:02:14 <planetmaker> It's later on hard to follow what is actually being done :-) 13:05:17 <juzza1> yep. better stick to giving the arguments as they really are (i guess there's a reason they are called _actual_ arguments) :P 13:05:57 <planetmaker> yes :-) 13:06:33 <planetmaker> one way I sometimes work is like 13:06:53 <planetmaker> #define vehid ice3 13:07:16 <planetmaker> #include templates/default_wagons.tnml 13:07:17 <planetmaker> ... 13:07:23 <planetmaker> #undef vehid 13:07:37 <planetmaker> and templates/default_wagons.tnml contains code like 13:09:40 <planetmaker> switch (FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, vehid ## _time_switch, date) { 0 ... 1990: livery_old; default: livery_new; } 13:11:54 <planetmaker> that still remains easily readable. Well, in the above example you probably would also want to define the year of livery switch. Thus #define YEAR_NEW_LIVERY 1990 before the include. and #undef YEAR_NEW_LIVERY before the #undef vehid 13:12:18 <planetmaker> but maybe... for a special case like liveries, templating is not sensible anyway 13:14:21 <V453000> write everything into 1 file for sanity :> 13:14:29 <V453000> /troll off 13:15:04 <planetmaker> that would kill my sanity :-) 13:15:14 <planetmaker> as does too much templating. But there I killed myself 13:15:33 <V453000> its great, only notepad++ seems to lag slightly sometimes :D 13:16:19 <planetmaker> well. Depends, I think. Logically structured in a few files makes things easier to find 13:17:06 <V453000> ctrl+f :> 13:17:12 <V453000> actually I would be dead lost without that :D 13:17:39 <planetmaker> :-) I do use grep "blah" src/* :D 13:18:01 <planetmaker> kinda multi-file grep ;-) 13:18:05 <V453000> :D 13:18:19 <planetmaker> though if I want to check sth with railtypes, I don't need it. I just look in 'railtypes.pnml' 13:18:31 <planetmaker> No need to bother with any vehicle code or so 13:18:41 <V453000> mhm :) 13:18:47 <planetmaker> or if I want to check the slug - just slug.pnml 13:19:11 <V453000> right :) 13:19:21 <planetmaker> thus filenames must be chosen such that they safe you one ctrl+f :-) 13:19:27 <planetmaker> only then it's sane. Otherwise a pain 13:19:28 <V453000> XD 13:32:08 <juzza1> btw. i got my problem solved http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3419332/c-preprocessor-stringify-the-result-of-a-macro 13:32:09 <Webster> Title: C Preprocessor, Stringify the result of a macro - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) 13:32:14 <juzza1> though i'm not sure if i'll do it like that 14:03:16 <Brot6> Bug #6392 (New): Wrong Graphics for Brit 2-6-4T "Suburban" Tank Engine XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6392 14:18:26 <Brot6> Bug #6393 (New): Wrong Graphics for British "Generation 1" Coach XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6393 14:23:09 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #110-push: SUCCESS in 30 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/110/ 14:26:04 <Brot6> Revision 112:96cd4ecbfec7: Change: new graphics for 2-6-4 Tank XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/96cd4ecbfec7 15:14:03 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:14:05 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:14:49 <Alberth> hi hi 15:14:56 <TWerkhoven> ello 15:21:59 <frosch123> moin 15:36:07 <Alberth> new bugs still popping up :) 15:37:12 <Alberth> I pondered about the crediting issue, and I think a new fileformat containing both the language file and credits per string is the simplest solution 15:38:40 <Alberth> the alternative is to be able to query changes since some point in time (provided by eints as string) 15:39:21 <Alberth> where you then also get troubles with new updates if you query the other info at another request 15:41:09 <Alberth> (eg query changes since some time-value -> eints answer with a new time-value + credits; query language string at that time-value 15:41:58 <Alberth> s/language string/language file/ 15:41:58 <Brot6> Alberth meant: "(eg query changes since some time-value -> eints answer with a new time-value + credits; query language file at that time-value" 15:45:07 <Brot6> Bug #6394 (New): Wrong Graphics for British "Generation 1" Mail Car XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6394 15:45:24 <frosch123> i think a "annotate" output is most useful 15:47:43 <Alberth> I am also somewhat wondering to extend the file format accepted by nml 15:48:07 <Alberth> it's nice and compact, but it lacks in being able to express stuff that we want 15:49:20 <frosch123> i guess the original idea was to keep it similar to ottd 15:50:05 <oskari89> NML could also support stations :) 15:50:23 <frosch123> i am not sure for what you want to extent the lang files 15:50:46 <frosch123> but if it is about strings without translation, maybe they should go to a separate file 15:50:55 <frosch123> e.g. "default.txt" instead of "english.txt" 15:51:16 <frosch123> i think putting more stuff into english.txt than in other language.txt is weird as best 15:51:29 <frosch123> it makes processing of those files harder for everyone 15:51:30 <Alberth> hmm, custom_tags.txt or so? 15:54:50 <Alberth> perhaps nml should accept string literals for those cases 15:55:50 * Alberth <- dinner 15:55:56 <planetmaker> hello 15:56:11 <Alberth> hello 16:04:13 <planetmaker> thanks for the hint wrt the group problem with hgweb, Alberth 16:20:18 <V453000> waiting for lock on repository C:\Users\Vasek\NUTS held by '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00' 16:20:19 <V453000> O_O 16:22:05 <V453000> I did commit one new thing, and accidentally added two .psd files which might be a bit large 16:22:28 <V453000> 79 and 90 MB to be precise 16:22:40 <V453000> how do I remove that commit? 16:22:51 <frosch123> my poking pm 16:22:52 <frosch123> *by 16:23:03 * V453000 pokes pm gently 16:27:31 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:34:39 <Brot6> Revision 47:2c7cf0a9520a: deduplicate rcon and content commands XT. WerkhovenX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/soap/repository/revisions/2c7cf0a9520a 16:42:06 <DevZone> Project make-nml build #23-push: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/make-nml/23/ 16:44:09 <planetmaker> :-) 16:44:24 <planetmaker> V453000, did you add them only locally, but not on the server-side yet? 16:44:48 <planetmaker> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2613/ <-- also I got a whitespace warning when building nuts 16:45:14 <planetmaker> V453000, if it's the last commit: use hg rollback 16:45:22 <planetmaker> hg forget filename 16:45:30 <planetmaker> hg commit 16:47:41 <DevZone> Project ISR Industrial Station Renewal build #12-push: SUCCESS in 25 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/isr/12/ 16:47:53 <DevZone> Project Dutch Trainset build #5-push: STILL FAILING in 42 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/dutchtrains/5/ 16:48:27 <Brot6> Revision 71:11ac1dd4ac80: Fix: custom_tags.txt depends on the 'soft' GENERATE_NML instead of 'har... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/make-nml/repository/revisions/11ac1dd4ac80 16:48:30 <DevZone> Project OpenGFX+ Industries build #15-push: SUCCESS in 37 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/ogfx-industries/15/ 16:48:37 <V453000> 1 whitespace warning is ok 16:48:54 <planetmaker> hm, what is devzone doing...? 16:48:59 <DevZone> Project Fake Subways build #7-push: SUCCESS in 29 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/fake-subways/7/ 16:49:21 <planetmaker> V453000, anyway, is the BIG commit your last? 16:49:25 <Brot6> Revision 54:e212f7691a44: Add: Makefile (make-nml 0.4.3) to faciliate easy building XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/revisions/e212f7691a44 16:49:25 <Brot6> Revision 238:13c7b196c603: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/revisions/13c7b196c603 16:49:25 <Brot6> Revision 148:68905ed69fb3: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/68905ed69fb3 16:50:03 <V453000> r57 16:50:06 <V453000> yes 16:50:15 <V453000> the one with the two .psds ... did the forget thing now 16:51:25 <Brot6> Revision 24:b82e35187985: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/pkpset/repository/revisions/b82e35187985 16:51:36 <planetmaker> ok, so that worked. Then you can commit anew 16:51:48 <planetmaker> after you forgot the big files after rollback 16:52:04 <V453000> hm 16:52:08 <V453000> rollback says the lock thing 16:52:17 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/thing.png 16:52:57 <planetmaker> close tortoise? 16:53:28 <planetmaker> and rollback and forget only make sense in reversed order if you want to undo the commit 16:53:30 <V453000> still 16:53:34 <planetmaker> hg revert -a 16:53:36 <planetmaker> hg rollback 16:53:37 <V453000> hm :) 16:53:38 <planetmaker> hg forget 16:53:58 <planetmaker> ATTENTION: any changes since would get lost 16:54:06 <planetmaker> since the BIG commit 16:54:15 <V453000> got backups 16:55:03 <V453000> nope rollback says that thing again 16:55:04 <V453000> :S 16:55:07 <V453000> what isthat lock anyway 16:55:14 <V453000> with closed tortoise, and after revert -a 16:55:17 <planetmaker> no clue 16:55:34 <frosch123> is there some hidden file in your repo? 16:55:54 <frosch123> named "hgnumbernumberorsomething"? 16:56:08 <DevZone> Yippie, build fixed! 16:56:09 <DevZone> Project Finnish Rail Infrastructure build #27-push: FIXED in 34 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/friss/27/ 16:56:21 <V453000> only hgignore :s 16:56:29 <V453000> but that istn hidden either 16:57:22 <frosch123> .hg/store/lock 16:57:28 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:57:35 <frosch123> .hg/wlock 16:57:43 <frosch123> or try "hg recover" 16:57:49 <frosch123> before/afterwards 16:58:42 <V453000> store/lock is empty 16:58:50 <V453000> wlock has some Vasek-PC:1404 16:59:10 <frosch123> remove both 16:59:11 <V453000> hg recover says the lock thing again 16:59:12 <V453000> ok 17:00:14 <V453000> ha 17:00:15 <V453000> worked 17:00:18 <V453000> trying to puuuush 17:00:37 <V453000> abort: push creates new remote head 9e293e7c502c! hint: you should pull and merge or use push -f to force 17:00:38 <V453000> :d 17:00:40 <V453000> k 17:00:44 <planetmaker> that's expected 17:00:52 <planetmaker> hg pull -u 17:00:57 <planetmaker> hg merge 17:01:09 <planetmaker> i.e. I commited a changeset to your repo meanwhile 17:01:31 <V453000> pull -u : abort: repo default not found :d 17:01:40 <planetmaker> eh? 17:01:48 <planetmaker> what's your default repo in .hg/hgrc? 17:02:04 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 17:02:23 <V453000> # Generated by TortoiseHg [ui] username = V453000 [paths] NUTS = https://push.openttdcoop.org/nuts 17:02:27 <Brot6> Revision 671:28d43f5b3d99: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/28d43f5b3d99 17:02:28 <Brot6> Revision 8:3a6918ddb41f: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fake-subways/repository/revisions/3a6918ddb41f 17:02:29 <V453000> apparently doesnt mention default 17:02:44 <planetmaker> yeah. puth there under [paths]: 17:02:57 <planetmaker> default = http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nuts 17:03:21 <Brot6> Revision 66:fd1f608dcaa0: Fature: Rails ported to FRISS - Rail Infrastructure Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/friss/repository/revisions/fd1f608dcaa0 17:04:27 <V453000> I see your commit now 17:04:35 <planetmaker> :-) 17:04:46 <planetmaker> you could now merge that with yours. 17:05:00 <Brot6> Revision 250:e525b1e60675: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/revisions/e525b1e60675 17:05:15 <planetmaker> hg merge would do that. It requires giving some revisions which I don't know as you only have them :-) 17:05:21 <V453000> I guess I should commit my changes first? 17:05:27 <V453000> or force it? 17:05:41 <V453000> doesnt matter if I lose stuff now, I can overwrite it from backup 17:05:57 <planetmaker> wait, you have uncommitted changes now? 17:06:08 <V453000> seemingly, after the rollback thing 17:06:15 <planetmaker> ah ok 17:06:21 <planetmaker> then forget the files you want to forget 17:06:27 <planetmaker> and commit your change. yes 17:07:17 <planetmaker> and yes, you can force the push then, if you like. I could do the merge and push that 17:08:21 <V453000> taking a puuush :) 17:08:34 <V453000> abort: authorization failed 17:08:35 <V453000> hayt 17:10:12 <V453000> hm what do with that? :d 17:10:18 <planetmaker> you push manually w/o tortoise? 17:10:44 <V453000> with 17:11:18 <DevZone> Project OpenGFX+ Landscape build #6-push: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/ogfx-landscape/6/ 17:11:32 <V453000> :D oh ... I overwrote your custom_tags changes btw :D sorry :> 17:11:40 <V453000> took local during merge 17:11:50 <planetmaker> that's cool. What did I change there? 17:11:57 <V453000> -VERSION :2013-09-13 (5004:23eeed020ed1M) -VERSION_STRING :2013-09-13 (5004:23eeed020ed1M) -TITLE :NUTS 2013-09-13 (5004:23eeed020ed1M) -FILENAME :nuts.grf -REPO_DATE :2013-09-13 -REPO_HASH :23eeed020ed1 -REPO_BRANCH : -NEWGRF_VERSION :5004 -DAYS_SINCE_2K :5004 17:11:59 <planetmaker> oh... yes 17:12:05 <planetmaker> hm, shouldn't be there :D 17:12:08 <V453000> :D 17:12:10 <V453000> kay 17:13:22 <planetmaker> dunno what tortoise does. can you try w/o it? 17:13:24 <V453000> hmmm what could have I possibly fucked up with the authorization? 17:13:28 <V453000> hg push 17:13:29 <V453000> and something? 17:13:38 <planetmaker> default-push=https://v453000:XXX@push.openttdcoop.org/nuts 17:13:44 <planetmaker> and then hg-push 17:13:46 <planetmaker> hg push 17:14:53 <V453000> that default-push goes into hgrc? 17:15:02 <planetmaker> yes 17:15:08 <planetmaker> same as default=... 17:15:13 <planetmaker> just below or above. whatever 17:15:50 <V453000> pushi pushi 17:16:54 <V453000> auth failed 17:17:05 <planetmaker> and XXX was your PW, yes? 17:17:08 <V453000> yarr 17:17:36 <planetmaker> ok, can we try what I said earlier today, can you change your PW, give me the changed one so that I can see myself? 17:18:18 <V453000> yarr 17:18:20 <planetmaker> (note: we'll never ask for your password :-P ) 17:18:28 <planetmaker> -->phishing :D 17:18:52 <V453000> should be changed now 17:19:33 <DevZone> Project NML - NewGRF Meta Language build #51-nightlies: SUCCESS in 1 min 1 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/nml/51/ 17:21:19 *** zooks has quit IRC 17:21:19 *** gelignite has quit IRC 17:22:06 <planetmaker> right... I could push with your account. Reverting my change to custom_tags.txt 17:23:16 <planetmaker> is there one HUGE commit among those, V453000 ? 17:23:31 <planetmaker> adding some psd or so? 17:23:40 <planetmaker> (oh, and pull again, maybe) 17:23:50 <V453000> I thought I already reverted that one 17:24:05 <planetmaker> well, one of the other :-) 17:25:35 <Brot6> Revision 55:16acfee6bfde: Fix: Don't overwrite custom_tags.txt XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/revisions/16acfee6bfde 17:26:12 <planetmaker> V453000, or try to push one by one: 17:26:17 <planetmaker> hg push -rXX 17:26:24 <planetmaker> where XX is the *first* (oldest) of your commits 17:26:25 <V453000> o 17:27:06 <V453000> starting with 56 then? 17:27:10 <V453000> or like r1? :D 17:27:23 <planetmaker> not r1. The oldest which only you have 17:27:29 <V453000> right 17:27:52 <V453000> abort .. did you forget to merge 17:27:53 <V453000> yes? :D 17:28:07 <planetmaker> well. hg push -f -rXX 17:28:11 <V453000> mhm :) 17:30:33 <V453000> auth failed :d 17:30:39 <V453000> I did change the pw in hgrc 17:30:48 <planetmaker> hm 17:31:11 <planetmaker> what does hg log -rXX --stat look like for that commit? 17:32:44 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/asdfffff.png 17:33:07 <planetmaker> that doesn't look huge 17:34:18 <V453000> this one is small 17:34:20 <V453000> was just a test 17:34:23 <V453000> 57 is big 17:35:14 <planetmaker> isn't r54 your first changeset? 17:35:49 <V453000> omg it is 17:35:58 <V453000> :d saw your fix to 55 and got confused 17:36:04 <planetmaker> :-) 17:36:20 <planetmaker> numeric numbering is... bad. It's local to repos :D 17:38:00 <V453000> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dpd1kyf48gkj6lb/6U0r6U-T39 17:38:05 <Webster> Title: Dropbox - Public (at www.dropbox.com) 17:38:11 <V453000> wat 17:38:23 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/fff.png 17:38:25 <V453000> this :) 17:38:36 <planetmaker> :D 17:39:08 <V453000> ++++++++++++++++ 17:39:17 <planetmaker> hm... .nml.orig? 17:39:44 <V453000> what is that thing anyway 17:39:45 <V453000> :d 17:39:54 <planetmaker> backup copy of your editor of your file 17:40:00 <V453000> mhm 17:40:06 <Alberth> or a merged nml file 17:40:51 <planetmaker> yeah, or that 17:41:04 <planetmaker> V453000, let's try something different for a change: 17:41:12 <V453000> format C? :D 17:41:14 <planetmaker> get a copy of eints-test repository 17:41:53 <planetmaker> or maybe even just the sandbox repo 17:42:12 <planetmaker> or did we already check whether or not you could commit anywhere else? 17:42:21 <V453000> no we didnt :) 17:42:50 <planetmaker> test repo will do 17:43:06 <V453000> pull from eints-test complete 17:43:20 <planetmaker> add some random stuff. commit and push 17:43:58 <planetmaker> maybe just a trailing space somewhere :D 17:45:01 <Brot6> Revision 0:1e9661e83480: Feature: Code ported from FRISS main repo Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/frissrails/repository/revisions/1e9661e83480 17:45:02 <Brot6> Revision 1:4fcaf3ce76b1: Feature: Code ported from FRISS main repo Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/frissrails/repository/revisions/4fcaf3ce76b1 17:45:02 <Brot6> Revision 2:75ae577ae3b6: Forget some unnecessary files Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/frissrails/repository/revisions/75ae577ae3b6 17:45:02 <Brot6> Revision 3:acad146020d9: Fix: Comments for macros Xjuzza1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/frissrails/repository/revisions/acad146020d9 17:45:29 <V453000> No outgoing changesets to https://push.openttdcoop.org/eints-test 17:45:36 <V453000> while adding some file 17:45:50 <planetmaker> hg phase -p . 17:45:53 <planetmaker> and push again 17:46:56 <V453000> abort: no revisions specified 17:46:56 <V453000> :D 17:46:58 <V453000> wa 17:49:27 <planetmaker> hg phase -p -r tip 17:52:08 <V453000> no phases changed 17:52:09 <V453000> it sez 17:52:20 <planetmaker> wtf do you do wrong?! :D 17:52:28 <planetmaker> did you commit anything to eints-test? 17:52:44 <V453000> yes. add one random text file 17:52:45 <planetmaker> and try to push to https://V453000:XXX@push.openttdcoop.org/eints-test ? 17:53:15 <planetmaker> hg push https://V453000:XXX@push.openttdcoop.org/eints-test 17:53:21 <planetmaker> could explicity specify the target 17:54:07 <V453000> sec got to run for a couple o minutez 17:57:19 <Alberth> planetmaker: is this known? http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/wobbly_mono.png 18:01:22 <planetmaker> no, I didn't yet notice. ogfx+landscape? 18:01:58 <Alberth> it looks that way, just the opengfx baseset looked ok to me 18:02:09 <DevZone> Project ISR Industrial Station Renewal build #13-push: SUCCESS in 21 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/isr/13/ 18:02:54 <Alberth> I was playing a game with nuts, but this kinds of tracks are highly distracting :) 18:09:12 <planetmaker> yes, the landscape set has differently composed sprites 18:09:28 <planetmaker> I needed to extract tracks from ground. Which obviously gave this effect 18:15:42 <Brot6> Revision 251:df63c190b3b7: Update: Add changes to Dutch and Scottish Gaelic translations Xmart3pX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/revisions/df63c190b3b7 18:22:15 *** DevZone has quit IRC 18:23:29 *** DevZone has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:24:54 *** DevZone has quit IRC 18:25:35 *** DevZone has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:26:39 <V453000> pm no changes found :d 18:29:30 <DevZone> Project Nutracks build #9-nightlies: SUCCESS in 17 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/nutracks/9/ 18:37:01 <^Spike^> Alberth to what extend do you think you would be able to fix hgredmine? 18:38:21 <Alberth> is that complicated? 18:38:32 <^Spike^> ehm... 18:38:43 <^Spike^> well the line commented is the correct one... my mind already has a dirty hack... :) 18:40:10 <^Spike^> 3 vars set to false by default depending on perms set to true... and end with the return.. :) 18:40:15 <^Spike^> but my python skills are basicly 0 :D 18:45:48 <frosch123> that was also my status two months ago 18:45:56 <^Spike^> something with while rows in db check perms... if perms = x set true here etc etc 18:46:03 <^Spike^> that's how i'm thinking about it 18:46:24 <^Spike^> and if there are no new rows return result... 18:46:31 <^Spike^> can you tell me if the mindset is right atleast then :D 18:47:04 <Rubidium> ... and now frosch123 is better than I am ;) 18:47:53 * ^Spike^ can always just give it a try... :) 18:47:59 <^Spike^> if for some reason nobody can push.... 18:48:01 <^Spike^> i'm innocent :D 18:48:11 <frosch123> as long as albert is better it won't get boring :) 18:48:13 <planetmaker> tsk... 18:48:13 <Brot6> Feature Request #6395 (New): Allow skipping of strings while translating in eints XGunChleocX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6395 18:48:31 <^Spike^> planetmaker atleast we found the cause... and i'm TRYING to fix it :D 18:49:04 <planetmaker> :-) That honestly sounds to me a fix which is dearly needed by upstream :-) 18:49:17 <planetmaker> I can hardly imagine that we're the only ones who stumbled about it 18:49:19 <^Spike^> well question 2: Does the guy still support iy :) 18:49:30 <^Spike^> you did read the doc right? 18:49:32 <^Spike^> made for ottdc? 18:49:34 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2614/ 18:49:57 <^Spike^> Alberth fixed it faster then i could.... 18:50:43 <Alberth> ^Spike^: a quick intro into python for programmers is the python tutorial at docs.python.org 18:50:49 <planetmaker> :-) <3 Alberth 18:50:49 <^Spike^> :) 18:51:36 <Alberth> planetmaker: we only found it because some idiot wrote eints :p 18:51:43 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:51:54 <planetmaker> ah, we should really cage-in that 'idiot' 18:52:12 <^Spike^> :) 18:52:15 <Alberth> without it, we'd still be happily using that script 18:52:21 <planetmaker> :-) 18:52:51 <planetmaker> Alberth, but I can easily imagine people attaching more than one role to people for other reasons, too 18:52:59 <^Spike^> gotta love patch rejects.... :) 18:54:12 <Alberth> weird diff path? 18:54:22 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:54:39 <Alberth> you may sanitize the filenames a bit :) 18:54:46 <Alberth> +want to 18:55:45 <Alberth> I didn't check upstream whether they have this issue 18:56:25 <planetmaker> https://bitbucket.org/nolith/hgredmine/src <-- that is upstream afaik... at least reasonably up2date 18:56:26 <Webster> Title: nolith / hgredmine / source / Bitbucket (at bitbucket.org) 18:59:51 <Alberth> no issues? 19:00:01 * ^Spike^ tried sanitizing paths... 19:00:03 <^Spike^> and failed :D 19:00:15 <^Spike^> oh well not much changes i could even copy/paste them ;) 19:01:12 <Alberth> just make them both just the filename, then patch -p0 < patchfile 19:09:02 <^Spike^> even then if failed... :) 19:09:47 <Alberth> :( 19:10:45 <Alberth> ok, no issue tracker that I can find, and I don't have an account at bitbucket either 19:13:09 <^Spike^> manual patching ftw :D 19:14:01 <^Spike^> ok... 19:14:06 <^Spike^> if ppl can test a push.. :) 19:14:42 <^Spike^> technically... and in theory it should be fixed :D 19:15:16 <planetmaker> :-) 19:20:52 * ^Spike^ just runs away :D 19:21:01 <planetmaker> lol :-) 19:22:43 <frosch123> hmm, what is your opinion on the eints-push end-of-line conversion? 19:22:54 <frosch123> should we advertise the hg eol conversion more strongly? 19:23:26 <frosch123> or should i add some magic to the script to detect eol style and restore it after download with unix2dos 19:24:09 <frosch123> *hg eol extension 19:25:01 <planetmaker> hm... difficult 19:25:11 <planetmaker> it's not like mercurial exactly favours using it 19:25:33 <frosch123> yeah, but i do not know the reasoning for that 19:26:25 <frosch123> nor how else one shall work in a team with mixed dos/unix users 19:26:59 <Alberth> use a good editor, mostly, I guess 19:28:01 <Alberth> reasoning is (afaik) that files are sequences of bytes that should not be altered by the vcs 19:29:00 <Alberth> eg a file with mixed eol style 19:29:22 <planetmaker> hm, yes, that probably was it 19:29:33 <planetmaker> now you mention it, I faintly recall that argument :-) 19:29:46 <Alberth> I once had such a file for testing purposes, but svn didn't like it very much 19:30:32 <Alberth> I had a problem with a BOM marker that got moved after the line number of the first line with "hg blame" 19:30:49 *** planetmaker has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:30:57 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:30:59 <planetmaker> gah 19:31:09 <Alberth> their answer was "we don't touch file data" 19:31:20 <planetmaker> I seriously need to teach this gnome3 to use mouse-over focuses window 19:31:46 <Alberth> good luck with that 19:32:09 <planetmaker> yeah :S 19:32:10 <Alberth> although their broken multiple desktop handling made me switch 19:32:25 *** zooks has quit IRC 19:32:58 <planetmaker> I've been using gnome3 now for nearly a year... but recently this missing mouse-over focus gives me... trouble 19:33:24 <Alberth> it went really missing recently? 19:34:02 <planetmaker> not sure, probably not 19:34:38 <Alberth> it was always hidden somewhere in the advanced config thingie, gconf editor iirc 19:35:17 <Alberth> forgot its exact name :( 19:35:30 <planetmaker> yes, I think I know that thing 19:35:50 <planetmaker> what window manager do you use now? 19:37:13 <Alberth> switched back to kde 19:37:45 <planetmaker> aye 19:37:58 <Alberth> also not ideal, but it has fixed multiple desktops instead of the automagic disappearing ones of gnome3 19:38:09 <Alberth> and mouse-over focus 19:39:51 <Alberth> otherwise I mostly don't care enough to bother trying other wms, too much work :) 19:40:49 <planetmaker> hm, yes. I might try that again, too 19:41:02 <planetmaker> similar here. I just needs to work [TM] 19:45:04 <Brot6> Bug #6396 (New): Enable adding credit to commits with translation changes XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6396 19:45:28 <planetmaker> not so modest, Alberth :-) It's definitely a feature 19:46:44 <Alberth> it should have done that out of the box, and probably would have, if the language file was not so limited in its features :) 19:46:54 <Alberth> anyway, enough for today, good night 19:47:29 <planetmaker> sleep well Alberth :-) 19:47:51 <Alberth> sleep well planetmaker :) 19:48:19 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:50:31 <frosch123> https://translator.openttdcoop.org/languages <- hmm, if i would add a realname of the language to that page a second column... 19:50:41 <frosch123> what would be the sorting criterion? :s 19:51:19 <frosch123> project overview only uses iso code 19:57:55 <planetmaker> frosch123, ideally it could be sorted by either column like wiki tables :D 19:58:07 <frosch123> stuff for andy 19:58:12 <frosch123> :p 19:58:13 <planetmaker> :-) 19:58:31 <planetmaker> either sorting there is fine otherwise. Both make equally sense. And there's ctrl+f 20:04:39 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/eints_languages.png <- i think it looks less empty like that 20:04:58 <frosch123> it also list all languages now, not only those which exist in at least one project 20:06:06 <frosch123> hmm, the headline is weird 20:06:16 <frosch123> "Languages available for translators"? 20:07:39 <planetmaker> all languages is ok. We also want to ahve those which are not yet done at all :-) 20:11:03 <^Spike^> btw maybe the guy on forums can try again now.. as we got the AlbertH version of hgredmine... :) 20:11:09 <frosch123> it's scary how much eints has become a spreadsheet of different tables :p 20:11:31 <^Spike^> :) 20:12:05 <planetmaker> he :-) 20:17:56 <^Spike^> it really looks nice though frosch123 :) 20:19:38 <frosch123> https://translator.openttdcoop.org/project/dutchtracks <- i guess it's no improvement to list all languages on the project page as wel 20:20:06 <frosch123> i.e. replacing the "start new language as top" with buttons per row as in https://translator.openttdcoop.org/language/de_DE 20:20:46 <frosch123> resp. https://translator.openttdcoop.org/language/bg_BG (better example :p) 20:21:35 <Brot6> Bug #6397 (New): Wrong Graphics for British Gen 2 Mail Car XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6397 20:21:46 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:23:48 * Rubidium wonders how much effort it would be to have an aggregrate of language stats on the /languages page ;) 20:24:45 <frosch123> not much, but likely as useless as an improved economy window in ottd 20:25:00 <planetmaker> well :-) 20:25:19 <frosch123> i wondered about showing something like "number of active translators" 20:25:38 <frosch123> but i wonder about the meaning of "active" :p 20:26:49 <Rubidium> active if fairly non-trivial ;) 20:27:10 <Rubidium> if someone changes one string every day, but there are still 1000 untranslated strings. Is that active? 20:27:20 <planetmaker> yeah :-) 20:27:38 <Rubidium> if no one of a language doesn't change a string for 90 days, but no new strings were added. Is that inactive? 20:27:47 <frosch123> "estimated time for complete translations of all projects" :p 20:27:48 <Rubidium> s/n't// 20:27:49 <Brot6> Rubidium meant: "if no one of a language does change a string for 90 days, but no new strings were added. Is that inactive?" 20:28:08 <frosch123> alternating from 1 day to 10000 years :p 20:51:38 <TWerkhoven> ^Spike^: still waiting for a push? 20:51:44 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/eints_userprofile.png <- i guess it the "no access" is listed too often, it gets annoying :p 20:51:49 <frosch123> might be a feature :p 20:52:29 <^Spike^> TWerkhoven you may do it for me it doesn't matter :) 20:52:34 <^Spike^> if it fails i get highlighted anyway :D 20:52:53 <planetmaker> hm, yeah. could just be left blank there, frosch123 ? 20:53:06 <planetmaker> or a simple "-" instead of "No Access"? 20:53:14 <TWerkhoven> also if its a 404? 20:53:15 <frosch123> the feature request was to see what projects owners one has to beg 20:53:34 <planetmaker> hm :-) 20:53:35 <frosch123> it lists only languages to which one has access in *some* project 20:53:49 <frosch123> (where owner access does not count) 20:53:49 <^Spike^> TWerkhoven yes? :) 20:53:57 <TWerkhoven> cus i just got 404 20:54:00 <^Spike^> ah.... 20:56:50 <^Spike^> TWerkhoven try again? 20:57:14 <TWerkhoven> 502 this time, bad gateway 20:58:04 <^Spike^> hmm 20:58:34 <^Spike^> nice....... 20:59:22 <planetmaker> what, how, where? 21:00:11 <^Spike^> it hates hgpush 21:02:13 <^Spike^> atleast it doesn't break now... :D 21:05:09 <^Spike^> still can't apply alberth's patch.... 21:07:04 <Brot6> mode change on /home/hg/hgredmine 21:07:13 * ^Spike^ kicks Brot6 21:07:14 <^Spike^> stfu 21:07:34 <^Spike^> TWerkhoven try again? 21:07:58 <TWerkhoven> success 21:08:34 <^Spike^> oki.. time to start it daemonized again 21:08:40 <^Spike^> this is alberth's patched version :) 21:09:03 <^Spike^> manual patching ftw... :) 21:11:13 <Brot6> Revision 287:4773068f9994: Add: Display all known languages on the language overview page, and al... XfroschX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eints/repository/revisions/4773068f9994 21:11:14 <Brot6> Revision 288:5ea2e25f6168: Add: Show all projects on the user profile page, so one can also see p... XfroschX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eints/repository/revisions/5ea2e25f6168 21:11:34 <^Spike^> i should still automate that for loop... 21:19:20 <Brot6> Revision 48:81f2fc0102b3: simple auto-reconnect on disconnection XT. WerkhovenX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/soap/repository/revisions/81f2fc0102b3 21:21:02 <juzza1> could someone configure https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/frissrails for the hudson/jenkins compiler thingy? 21:21:08 <juzza1> btw. what should i call it? :D 21:21:59 <^Spike^> compile farm! :) 21:22:08 * ^Spike^ just points to planetmaker :D 21:23:56 <juzza1> :) 21:28:56 <DevZone> Project Finnish Rail Infrastructure - Rails build #1-push: SUCCESS in 28 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/frissrails/1/ 21:29:13 <planetmaker> ^ juzza1 21:30:38 <juzza1> thanks :) 21:38:12 <frosch123> what... i can drag resize the editareas :o 21:38:45 <planetmaker> from eints? yes 21:39:07 <frosch123> never saw something like that :p 21:39:10 <frosch123> resp. noticed 21:40:18 <planetmaker> I saw it before on the often extremely ill-formed e-mail forms of crappy companies which are too shy to provide real e-mail contacts 21:40:29 <Brot6> Bug #6397 (Closed): Wrong Graphics for British Gen 2 Mail Car XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6397 21:40:29 <Brot6> Bug #6397 (Closed): Wrong Graphics for British Gen 2 Mail Car XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6397#change-17365 21:40:34 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #111-push: SUCCESS in 27 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/111/ 21:40:58 <planetmaker> it's I think a general property of these kind of text areas 21:41:55 <^Spike^> frosch123 it could also be your browser :) 21:41:59 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #112-push: SUCCESS in 26 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/112/ 21:42:18 <Brot6> Bug #6394 (Closed): Wrong Graphics for British "Generation 1" Mail Car XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6394#change-17366 21:42:30 <^Spike^> lots of browsers include a "feature" to resize textareas 21:43:00 <Brot6> Bug #6393 (Closed): Wrong Graphics for British "Generation 1" Coach XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6393#change-17367 21:43:02 <frosch123> true, it even works in flyspray 21:43:06 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #113-push: SUCCESS in 32 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/113/ 21:43:45 <frosch123> anyway, 10 cases are just too much 21:43:53 <frosch123> there is no way to make the page look reasonable 21:43:56 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #114-push: SUCCESS in 25 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/114/ 21:44:01 <Brot6> Bug #6392 (Closed): Wrong Graphics for Brit 2-6-4T "Suburban" Tank Engine XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6392#change-17368 21:44:43 <frosch123> and i don't understand half of the eints features on that page :p 21:46:09 <planetmaker> I understand the three newest :-D 21:46:28 <planetmaker> hm, and 6351 21:47:57 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #115-push: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/115/ 21:48:12 <Brot6> Bug #5312 (Closed): Link back to project page XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5312#change-17369 21:48:42 <planetmaker> hm, a favicon? 21:48:56 <Brot6> Revision 113:f8ebc009901c: Change: gen 2 brit mail car XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/f8ebc009901c 21:48:56 <Brot6> Revision 114:bdd496d3abb5: Change: gen 1 brit mail car XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/bdd496d3abb5 21:48:56 <Brot6> Revision 115:470acd6449fc: Change: gen 1 brit passenger car XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/470acd6449fc 21:48:56 <Brot6> Revision 116:c36d442bb746: Change: set tank loco 2-6-4 to 7 long XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/c36d442bb746 21:48:58 <Brot6> Revision 117:6e3832bd60b9: Change: set covered hopper car length to 8 XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/6e3832bd60b9 21:49:03 <frosch123> the icon in your browser tab 21:49:05 <planetmaker> frosch123, the grf thing with a quill? 21:49:07 <frosch123> currently it is blank 21:49:21 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #116-push: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/116/ 21:49:35 <frosch123> grf would not include game scripts :) 21:49:41 <frosch123> so, not future proof :) 21:49:41 <planetmaker> true :-) 21:50:17 <frosch123> just "#" ? :p 21:50:38 <planetmaker> can we stylize the rosetta stone? 21:50:46 <frosch123> the redmine logo? 21:51:22 <frosch123> oh, google that term 21:51:32 <frosch123> i guess even if you try, noone will recognise it :p 21:51:56 <frosch123> the eints frontpage as a globe 21:52:05 <planetmaker> http://www.rosettastone.com/about <-- stylized :D 22:05:56 <Brot6> Revision 118:4d44230840fe: Change: set gen 2 tank car length to 8 XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/4d44230840fe 22:09:52 <planetmaker> good night 22:23:33 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:45:27 *** Zuu has quit IRC