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00:10:31 <Brot6> Revision 1304:3c52fd14680d: Fixed KLM 330 XRvP93X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/3c52fd14680d 05:22:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:10:42 *** George|2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:13:50 *** Hirundo_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:13:56 *** George has quit IRC 06:13:56 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 06:13:56 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 06:13:56 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 06:15:20 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:22:56 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:23:52 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:54:08 *** George has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:56:48 <Brot6> Revision 1403:942ec6cb1d3f: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/942ec6cb1d3f 07:57:28 *** LSky has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:59:29 *** George|2 has quit IRC 08:15:06 <Brot6> Membership #6886 (New): Applying for project: FISH fork XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6886 08:15:44 <planetmaker> LSky, do you want a new project - or do you want to start with a fork of the FISH repository? 08:16:11 <planetmaker> the result would be the same - just that you have some code in the repo or you start with a blank one 08:16:39 <planetmaker> LSky, and do you have your (public) ssh key for me? 08:20:16 <LSky> i think i added that to the project 08:20:46 <LSky> i think starting with a fork would be best 08:20:50 <planetmaker> yup, saw that. You added it after I opened the issue :) Brot knew 08:20:59 <planetmaker> ok, then I'll give you a clone of FISH 08:21:27 <planetmaker> got a fancy name for it? 08:21:33 <planetmaker> redfish? 08:21:41 <LSky> hah 08:21:42 <LSky> sure 08:22:27 <LSky> searching google images for redfish gives a lot of women in bikinis, for some odd reason 08:23:48 <Brot6> Revision 804:544d1f289d2f: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/544d1f289d2f 08:23:48 <Brot6> Revision 703:c753adb1c220: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/revisions/c753adb1c220 08:24:21 <Brot6> Revision 1303:c1db70407d14: Added A330-300 KLM XRvP93X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/c1db70407d14 08:24:21 <Brot6> Revision 1304:3c52fd14680d: Fixed KLM 330 XRvP93X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/3c52fd14680d 08:25:10 <planetmaker> lol 08:25:28 <planetmaker> anyway, here you go: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish 08:26:23 <planetmaker> your key should also work to pull/push to ssh://hg@hg.openttdcoop.org/redfish 08:26:33 <LSky> alright 08:26:35 <andythenorth> LSky: out of interest, what do you want to change? 08:27:21 <LSky> short version; cargo capacity 08:27:56 <LSky> long version; im planning on making a scenario with large bodies of water, featuring strategically placed industries that force players to use ships 08:28:03 <andythenorth> bigger or smaller capacity? 08:28:33 <LSky> in the interest of server performance and 'realism', im planning to increase the cargo capacity of some (or all) ships 08:28:34 <planetmaker> alternatively - to changing the NewGRF directly - one can always make an add-on NewGRF which overrides certain properties of a specified NewGRF 08:29:06 <planetmaker> but, well... it needs intimate knowledge of the NewGRF anyway 08:29:43 <LSky> i saw some of those 08:30:42 <LSky> i would imagine it makes for better compatibility and easier to update, but right now this seems like an easier approach 08:30:45 <andythenorth> LSky: src/templates/capacity_refittable.pynml 08:31:06 <andythenorth> actually wrong template 08:31:20 <andythenorth> src/templates/capacity_not_refittable.pynml 08:31:33 <andythenorth> where you see return ${ship.capacity_pax}; 08:31:38 <andythenorth> try return ${2 * ship.capacity_pax}; 08:31:40 <andythenorth> or similar 08:31:53 <Brot6> Revision 1403:942ec6cb1d3f (redfish): Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/942ec6cb1d3f 08:32:28 <LSky> interesting 08:32:33 <LSky> thanks 08:33:35 <andythenorth> LSky: Iron Horse and Road Hog have parameters for capacity 08:33:54 <andythenorth> FISH doesn’t, it could gain one, but I would only offer 0.66, 1, and 1.3 as multipliers 08:34:14 <andythenorth> but that could be changed in a fork 08:35:36 <planetmaker> why would you not allow more, if you had a parameter anyway, andythenorth ? 08:35:57 <andythenorth> planetmaker: because I am opinionated 08:36:07 <andythenorth> people playing with big ships are wrong 08:36:12 <planetmaker> just out-source the work for adding the parameter to him and give him his desired parameter value in return ;) 08:36:26 <andythenorth> even though bananas tells us that big ships is the number one missing feature :P 08:36:55 <planetmaker> andythenorth, for the scenario which LSky described, trains can't replace them :) 08:37:12 <planetmaker> so yes, big(ger) ship capacities make sense, if you have large water bodies which can't be bridged 08:37:44 <planetmaker> thus if you want to make a micronesia ship game (instead of the default train game), you need more :) 08:40:27 <LSky> like i said earlier though, I dont wanna bother andy too kuch with this 08:40:35 <LSky> he has plenty of projects 08:41:41 <andythenorth> LSky: changing the actual capacities per ship is trivial too 08:41:59 <LSky> planetmaker pointed me in the direction for that 08:43:30 <Brot6> Membership #6886: Applying for project: FISH fork XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6886#change-18645 08:44:14 <andythenorth> LSky: the vehicles are all in src/ships 08:44:30 <Brot6> Membership #6886 (Feedback): Applying for project: FISH fork XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6886 08:44:30 <Brot6> Membership #6886 (Feedback): Applying for project: FISH fork XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6886#change-18646 08:44:40 <andythenorth> depending on the type of ship, you will find capacity_cargo_holds etc 08:45:19 <LSky> i also saw gross_tonnage 08:45:34 <LSky> which sometimes matches the cargo capacity, but not always 08:48:42 <andythenorth> that is used for buy cost 08:48:56 <andythenorth> doesn’t affect capacity 08:49:16 <LSky> alright 08:49:36 <andythenorth> if you want to scale costs, you’d adjust that too 08:49:46 <andythenorth> the cost calculation is a bit ‘meh' 08:49:54 <LSky> for later concern really 09:21:39 <Brot6> Revision 121:17b2dec7658f (2ccts): Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2ccts/repository/revisions/17b2dec7658f 09:26:34 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:44:04 <Alberth> oh, brot is just very late in reporting : 09:49:55 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:09:43 <planetmaker> brot is very late, as usual :) 10:10:42 <LSky> on setting up my environment, im getting a syntax error when im at this step: 10:10:42 <LSky> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Ssh#Step-6-Configure-your-local-repository-to-use-the-SSH-protocol 10:11:11 <LSky> any idea what im doing wrong? 10:11:55 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:13:22 <planetmaker> syntax error in what sense? 10:13:46 <LSky> when i edit the settings file and enter ssh://hg@hfg etc 10:13:54 <LSky> it just gives me a syntax error :/ 10:15:23 <planetmaker> which setting? step 6.5 is what the .hgrc should look like 10:16:15 <planetmaker> but myself I have extremely little experience with using tortoiseHG myself. command line for the win 10:16:48 <planetmaker> thus I usually just clone the repo and that's it: hg clone ssh://hg@hg.openttdcoop.org/redfish and I'd have everything setup to get started 10:17:21 <planetmaker> except maybe my preferred username - though I configured that for hg once globally in ~/.hgrc, so I don't worry there 10:17:31 <LSky> right, but you probably have an environment with an actual command line 10:17:57 <planetmaker> every system does, including windows 10:18:00 <LSky> right 10:18:08 <LSky> but there its not as easy as typing what you did 10:18:21 <planetmaker> it assumes you have mercurial installed, yes 10:18:27 <planetmaker> and in your path 10:20:07 <planetmaker> anyway, I still don't know which step exactly it gives a syntax error on, or when 10:20:42 <planetmaker> all the guide asks you is to enter what is quoted in 6.5 when you edit your repo's settings as said in 6.2 10:21:07 <LSky> yeah 10:21:11 <LSky> that gives a syntax error 10:21:25 <LSky> when you save it 10:21:46 <planetmaker> if you quote that verbatim? 10:22:21 <LSky> when i added 6.5 and saved, it gave me a syntax error 10:22:21 <planetmaker> well, PROJECTNAME would be redfish, but 10:22:24 <LSky> yeah 10:22:26 <LSky> obviously 10:23:13 <planetmaker> you already cloned the project? 10:23:46 <LSky> no, im trying to figure that out was well, following the wiki steps there, but i havent managed it yet 10:24:05 <planetmaker> you can't change a repo's setting without having the repo 10:24:25 <planetmaker> follow the guide from the beginning 10:24:48 <LSky> i did, but the step 'setting up ssh', how can i clone the repo without being able to connect 10:24:50 <planetmaker> hm... doesn't say to clone before 10:25:18 <planetmaker> cone via http 10:25:23 <planetmaker> that needs no authentication 10:26:29 <LSky> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository ? 10:26:32 <planetmaker> so basically, when you start tortoise, you can choose 'clone archive'. Choose that. use the URL http://hg.openttdcoop.org/PROJECTNAME 10:27:26 <LSky> ok that does work 10:27:56 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository <-- basically the URL it says in the top of the web view 10:28:18 <planetmaker> when you have that clone of the project, change the URL to the one described in the SSH section so that you can push, too 10:28:33 <LSky> alright 10:28:36 <LSky> fixed that now 10:28:47 <LSky> wont i have auth issues now though 10:29:13 <planetmaker> well, hopefully :P 10:31:33 <LSky> yeah i think im still doing the public key thing wrong 10:33:02 <planetmaker> I added a step to clone the remote repo first 10:36:33 <LSky> just says No supported auth methods available (server sent: publickey) 10:36:41 <LSky> this requires me to load my private key in paegent right? 10:37:47 <planetmaker> pageant must be up and running, yes 10:37:52 <planetmaker> and know about your keys 10:38:00 <LSky> it does 10:38:07 <LSky> key as already loaded 10:39:57 <planetmaker> can you try again? 10:40:20 <LSky> no more errors now 10:42:01 <planetmaker> ok. Then it was my fault. They key you provided was not exactly the form I need it. And I did a small conversion error. I need a copy&paste of how the key is shown in 2.4 in http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/SSH - but one can convert the exported form to it 10:42:20 <planetmaker> probably I should make that more explicit, too 10:42:40 <LSky> i thought it was weird that puttygen gave me a key with no file extension 10:43:10 <planetmaker> it needs no extension or specific name at all, I just need that paste. 10:43:19 <planetmaker> It goes in a big credentials file, all of them 10:44:24 <LSky> need me to give you the paste of my public key? 10:44:31 <LSky> or did you work it out 10:44:33 <planetmaker> no. If it works now 10:45:14 <planetmaker> so if you changed to ssh and you can still pull, you can then also push 10:45:43 <LSky> there we go 10:45:47 <planetmaker> sweet :) 10:46:07 <planetmaker> thanks for your patience. It improved our documentation :) 10:46:39 <LSky> no proble, im more worried about annoying you with basic questions 10:47:25 <planetmaker> oh, that's alright 10:48:04 <Brot6> Revision 1404:664e87f56fa0 (redfish): Test XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/664e87f56fa0 10:48:37 <planetmaker> one of the first changes could be to rename the grf file (and main source file and ingame names) to redfish instead of fish :P 10:49:01 <planetmaker> and adding you as author 10:49:22 <planetmaker> should I activate compilation by CF? 10:49:45 <LSky> yes please, though ill first make an attempt to find out where the stuff you mentioned is located 10:51:41 <planetmaker> and translation service? That will need adding the user 'eints' as role 'translation manager' to your project 10:51:58 <planetmaker> as it's clone of FISH the other stuff, required in .devzone/ is already present 10:52:21 <planetmaker> (you can add users yourself to your project in the redmine project settings) 10:53:43 <DevZone> Project redfish build #1-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 8 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/1/ 10:53:47 <LSky> who is eints :o 10:53:56 <planetmaker> our translation service 10:54:19 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/eints 10:54:35 <planetmaker> https://translator.openttdcoop.org/ <-- it's the programme which provides this webpage 10:55:27 <planetmaker> it's assigned the login to user 'eints', thus if you add it as translation manager, you can allow it push and / or pull to your repository via the ./devzone/translation files 10:55:38 <LSky> alright 10:55:39 <LSky> added 10:55:48 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/ManagingEints <-- as described here :) 11:10:07 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 11:30:17 <LSky> for the file name, im assuming i need to edit makefile.config 11:30:44 <LSky> i also found makefish.sh, which mentions: && mv fish.grf ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data 11:31:56 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 11:32:14 <planetmaker> makefish.sh is for andy - and assumes an OSX system as-is. You could of course adopt to your needs 11:32:30 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:32:36 <planetmaker> Makefile.config would need changing and actually renaming the files via the revision control 11:32:53 <planetmaker> like hg move CURRENT_NAME NEW_NAME 11:33:05 <planetmaker> tortoise surely has a GUI for that 11:33:28 <planetmaker> like you want to rename fish.pnml to redfish.pnml additional to the change in Makefile.config 11:33:48 <planetmaker> and maybe adopt lang/english.txt, too :) 11:33:59 <planetmaker> not the filename, the naming ingame 11:37:59 <LSky> fish.py then? i dont see any pnml files 11:38:09 <planetmaker> ah, yes 11:38:12 <planetmaker> likely 11:40:47 <Brot6> Revision 1405:45dd2080203b (redfish): Change: Name changes test XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/45dd2080203b 11:40:53 <DevZone> Project redfish build #2-push: FAILURE in 23 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/2/ 11:41:16 <LSky> i broke it already 11:44:00 <planetmaker> the log will tell why / how :) 11:44:07 <LSky> nmlc ERROR: Input file "redfish.nml" does not exist 11:45:48 <planetmaker> he probably does some stuff in Makefile.in, too 11:46:14 <planetmaker> scripts/makefile.in 11:46:55 <LSky> yes 11:47:29 <planetmaker> src/render_nml.py 11:49:23 <planetmaker> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3269/ works for me 11:51:25 <planetmaker> I'd also suggest https://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3270/ :) 11:51:34 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:56:56 <DevZone> Yippee, build fixed! 11:56:57 <DevZone> Project redfish build #3-push: FIXED in 1 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/3/ 11:57:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:58:09 <planetmaker> btw, http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/redfish/ is what you want to point people to for the versions which you do not publish on bananas ;) 11:58:26 <LSky> thanks 11:58:42 <planetmaker> it's automatically updated for each build 11:59:25 <planetmaker> and if you tag a version (give it a name), it's build as 'release'. Those I'd suggest to upload to bananas. Possibly the thing you then can download from the bundles server 11:59:49 <LSky> this tagging 11:59:51 <planetmaker> it makes sure that it really is the same thing and doesn't catch any local modifications - which sometimes happen to sneak in unseen 11:59:51 <LSky> where does that take place 12:00:03 <planetmaker> it is a separate 'commit' you do 12:00:17 <LSky> ah, and the comment is: release ? 12:00:21 <planetmaker> http://choorucode.com/2010/03/05/tortoisehg-add-tag/ 12:00:22 <Webster> Title: TortoiseHg: Add Tag | chooru_code (at choorucode.com) 12:00:36 <planetmaker> It's usually just the name of the release 12:00:37 <LSky> ah thanks 12:00:46 <planetmaker> hg tag 1.0.0 12:00:55 <planetmaker> hg tag 0.1-RC 12:00:58 <planetmaker> or whatever :) 12:01:29 <planetmaker> prior to tagging I usually go through documentation and changelog and update that properly 12:01:42 <planetmaker> to then be in the state which I want it to be for a release 12:02:01 <LSky> right, that sounds like the most work actually 12:02:15 <planetmaker> yes 12:02:19 <LSky> nevermind trying to get the naming and banass descriptions right 12:02:30 <LSky> bananas, even 12:04:55 <planetmaker> badass description is as important as bananas description ;) 12:05:02 <LSky> right./ 12:07:12 <DevZone> Project redfish build #4-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/4/ 12:09:12 <LSky> there we go, now the description matches the capacity 12:24:27 <DevZone> Project road-hog build #168-push: SUCCESS in 39 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/road-hog/168/ 12:25:07 <DevZone> Project road-hog build #169-releases: SUCCESS in 39 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/road-hog/169/ 12:26:33 <Brot6> Revision 1406:806c272e1f6f (redfish): Name changes to makefile.in and render_nml.py XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/806c272e1f6f 12:26:34 <Brot6> Revision 1407:916522418b8b (redfish): tanker capacity description test XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/916522418b8b 12:26:39 <andythenorth> LSky: changed the grfid? o_O 12:27:50 <LSky> did I make a wrong change? 12:28:36 <andythenorth> no 12:28:46 <andythenorth> but you should change the grfid 12:28:49 <DevZone> Project redfish build #5-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/5/ 12:29:39 <andythenorth> src/templates/header.pynml 12:29:45 <planetmaker> very much so, yes 12:30:51 <andythenorth> I should remove that gross tonnage property 12:31:03 <andythenorth> and just make a buy_cost_dibbling property 12:31:36 <LSky> planetmaker, is there a particular grfid i should use? 12:32:07 <planetmaker> "anyone which is not yet in use is fine" :) 12:32:38 <LSky> thats what I figured 12:33:14 <planetmaker> it's mostly pointless except that it identifies a NewGRF accross its versions uniquely and distinguishes it from other NewGRFs 12:33:21 <LSky> right 12:33:27 <andythenorth> does bananas have a list of grfids in use? 12:33:30 <LSky> how do i know im not using one that already exists though 12:33:35 <andythenorth> also isn’t a huge block of grfids now reserved? 12:33:53 <planetmaker> you cannot start a NewGRF with 0xFF 12:33:59 <planetmaker> as that's not a NewGRF then 12:34:14 <planetmaker> other NewGRF IDs are all free. One cannot reserve any ID really 12:34:25 <planetmaker> nor should one actually bother 12:34:32 <andythenorth> yeah, I think OzTrans reserved a block 12:34:33 <planetmaker> not worth the time :) 12:34:47 <planetmaker> I'd phrase it that he thinks that he can do so 12:34:48 <andythenorth> all IDs beginning with C or something 12:34:59 <planetmaker> Thus I'd actually recommend to use IDs preferentially from that block :P 12:36:00 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~rubidium/newgrf.html is an (older) list of grfIDs seen in use by OpenTTD's master server 12:36:14 <planetmaker> thus better don't use any of those. All other are likely not taken, thus fine 12:37:54 <planetmaker> FIRS seems to be the NewGRF where the highest number of versions have been used :) 12:38:25 <planetmaker> though the world airlinerset is on a good 2nd place 12:38:39 <DevZone> Project redfish build #6-push: FAILURE in 23 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/6/ 12:39:17 <planetmaker> eh? 12:42:53 <LSky> im guessing it didnt like that ID 12:43:16 <planetmaker> oh, haha, yeah :) 12:43:26 <planetmaker> 0x4G is not a valid hexadecimal number :) 12:43:46 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I'm not sure that list is very old ;) 12:44:01 <planetmaker> if it's new, that's even better. Got a script updating it regularily? 12:44:11 <Rubidium> I think it does daily 12:44:16 <planetmaker> sweet :) 12:44:38 <Rubidium> at least fish of 12-01-2014 is on it, and I certainly didn't touch it recently 12:44:47 <planetmaker> :) 12:45:20 <planetmaker> FBFB0601 52A4657A64FABC04C7FA6CC67585D2A6 Dutch Trainset 2014-04-16 (5219:c00296d06616) 12:45:40 <planetmaker> ok, so yeah :) 12:45:46 <planetmaker> perfect 12:46:04 <DevZone> Yippee, build fixed! 12:46:04 <DevZone> Project redfish build #7-push: FIXED in 1 min 5 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/7/ 12:48:41 <LSky> should be a unique number now 12:49:02 <planetmaker> :) 12:52:21 <Brot6> Revision 1408:9f508a2a7e06 (redfish): Capacity descriptions XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/9f508a2a7e06 12:52:21 <Brot6> Revision 1409:a30c89da5e7b (redfish): GRFID changed XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/a30c89da5e7b 12:52:21 <Brot6> Revision 1410:45e9f0346580 (redfish): GRFID fixed XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/45e9f0346580 12:52:34 <planetmaker> slow brot surely is slow :P 12:57:11 <DevZone> Project redfish build #8-push: FAILURE in 21 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/8/ 13:00:12 <DevZone> Yippee, build fixed! 13:00:13 <DevZone> Project redfish build #9-push: FIXED in 1 min 6 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/9/ 13:10:02 <DevZone> Project redfish build #10-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/10/ 13:13:14 <DevZone> Project redfish build #11-push: FAILURE in 21 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/11/ 13:14:56 <DevZone> Yippee, build fixed! 13:14:57 <DevZone> Project redfish build #12-push: FIXED in 1 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/12/ 13:18:14 <DevZone> Project redfish build #13-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 3 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/13/ 13:25:04 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 13:26:05 <Brot6> Revision 1411:83a40a856c15 (redfish): Description XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/83a40a856c15 13:26:05 <Brot6> Revision 1412:89743101bfac (redfish): Description revert XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/89743101bfac 13:26:05 <Brot6> Revision 1413:4db5ba9ddacd (redfish): newgrf title change XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/4db5ba9ddacd 13:26:05 <Brot6> Revision 1414:a3375f65a2bd (redfish): Description XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/a3375f65a2bd 13:26:08 <Brot6> Revision 1415:0e1f712346a4 (redfish): Title fix XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/0e1f712346a4 13:26:10 <DevZone> Project redfish build #14-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/14/ 13:26:11 <Brot6> Revision 1416:415583ab61fd (redfish): Description style fix XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/415583ab61fd 13:26:14 <Brot6> Revision 1417:d2a723f84f27 (redfish): readme, changelog XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/d2a723f84f27 13:28:25 <LSky> planetmaker, what other than the changelog would you recommend getting sorted? you mentioned documentation, though it seems the readme isn't active with this build 13:38:38 *** yorick has quit IRC 13:41:28 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:50:31 <planetmaker> the readme surely is shipped with the grf and can be viewed ingame 13:51:01 <andythenorth> the FISH readme is somewhat useless :) 13:52:59 <planetmaker> Also changelog can be adjusted 13:53:22 <andythenorth> docs_src/changelog.pt 13:53:28 <andythenorth> it’s markdown 13:53:52 <andythenorth> I should change the file extension :P 13:58:04 * planetmaker is off to BBQ. see you tomorrow 14:08:29 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:29:01 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:32:04 <LSky> i changed the changelog (harhar) 14:32:12 <LSky> but the readme supplied doesnt function in bananas 14:34:20 <andythenorth> what’s the problem with it? 14:34:33 <LSky> well 14:34:43 <LSky> i have fish and firs side by side 14:34:50 <LSky> i can click readme/website for FIRS 14:34:53 <LSky> but not for fish 14:36:16 <LSky> branched off at 1304 and im quite sure i didnt touch that bit 14:36:21 <LSky> 1403* 14:50:58 <andythenorth> LSky: do you mean the in-game readme? 14:55:16 <LSky> yeah 14:55:41 <LSky> just the readme button in the newgrf menu 14:56:48 <frosch123> for a readme to be associated to a grf it must be in the same folder 14:57:00 <frosch123> resp. in the same tar 14:57:18 <frosch123> for stuff not within a tar (like when you compile yourself), it is somewhat tricky sometimes 14:57:51 <LSky> hmm 14:58:01 <LSky> im guesing its just because im not working with a bundle then? 14:58:43 <LSky> or does that make no difference 15:17:42 <andythenorth> if you just use ‘make’ it should work 15:17:46 <andythenorth> I’ll check locally 15:17:59 <andythenorth> yeah, works for me 15:28:10 <andythenorth> LSky: does the .tar get built? 15:29:26 <LSky> im using the CF 15:29:26 <LSky> https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/ 15:30:03 <andythenorth> yeah readme isn’t included 15:30:10 <andythenorth> it’s also building a .tar.zip 15:30:17 <andythenorth> my build just does a .tar 15:30:23 <andythenorth> might be a different makefile target 15:30:41 <LSky> its not a big deal I suppose 15:31:01 <andythenorth> pl*netmaker will be able to fix it when he’s back 15:31:35 <andythenorth> it’s related to makefile.config 15:31:42 <andythenorth> the readme is not in the list 15:32:00 <andythenorth> hmm it’s not in my local build 15:32:06 <andythenorth> I don’t know how the game is finding it 15:32:55 <andythenorth> that’s interesting 15:33:07 <andythenorth> Rubidium: ottd caches newgrf readme somehow? 15:33:30 <andythenorth> or will supply one from a different version of same grf? 15:36:30 <andythenorth> LSky: apply the diff here https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/733189c80fb6 15:36:47 <Brot6> Revision 1404:733189c80fb6: Codechange: readme wasn't included for bundle XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/733189c80fb6 15:37:24 <DevZone> Project FISH is ships build #183-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 4 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/fish/183/ 15:39:49 <DevZone> Project redfish build #15-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/15/ 15:40:11 <LSky> fixed, thanks andythenorth 16:11:43 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:21:52 <DevZone> Project Japanese Buildings build #182-nightlies: SUCCESS in 17 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/jpbuild/182/ 16:27:27 <Rubidium> andythenorth: I highly doubt that openttd caches them 16:30:41 <andythenorth> it does something 16:31:01 <andythenorth> it displayed a readme for a grf that definitely didn’t have a readme in the tar 16:31:22 <andythenorth> but there was another version of the grf installed with a valid readme 16:31:27 <andythenorth> I could test if it’s interesting 16:31:31 <andythenorth> otherwise not :) 16:33:54 <DevZone> Project Finnish Rail Infrastructure - Rails build #296-nightlies: SUCCESS in 8 min 18 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/frissrails/296/ 16:39:59 <George> Hi. Can running cost be negative? 16:41:09 <DevZone> Project road-hog build #170-nightlies: SUCCESS in 34 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/road-hog/170/ 16:48:09 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #850-nightlies: SUCCESS in 1 min 32 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/850/ 16:49:00 <DevZone> Project Dutch Trainset build #143-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 21 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/dutchtrains/143/ 17:15:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:09:12 *** oskari89 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:19:16 <DevZone> Project redfish build #16-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 8 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/redfish/16/ 18:32:57 <Brot6> Revision 1418:9ad24f5144c6 (redfish): readme fix XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/9ad24f5144c6 18:32:57 <Brot6> Revision 1419:c1eb26d7eb1e (redfish): Changed: readme XLSkyX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redfish/repository/revisions/c1eb26d7eb1e 18:34:08 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:47:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:33:48 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:42:20 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 20:20:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:24:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:24:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:31:06 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:47:24 *** oskari89 has quit IRC 21:26:18 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #851-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 26 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/851/ 21:45:43 <Brot6> Revision 1419:e0583e0f111e: Update #6769: ЭД4М - исправлены правила сборки... XGeorgeX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/xussrset/repository/revisions/e0583e0f111e 21:45:43 <Brot6> Feature #6769 (Feedback): ЭД4М XGeorgeX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6769#change-18648 21:47:08 <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #268-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 1 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/268/ 21:47:42 <planetmaker> George, costs are all positive 21:48:34 <George> planetmaker: That makes Regenerative brakes not profitable :( 21:49:24 <planetmaker> time resolution is not good enough to go for the deceleration time 21:49:52 <planetmaker> Also, it does not add positive money. It just saves money in reality 21:50:06 <George> I know 21:50:35 <George> But in OTTD trains going downhill would only have 0 RC 21:51:58 <planetmaker> it would consume power using breaks 21:52:17 *** LSky has quit IRC 21:52:22 <planetmaker> and wear on the moving parts 21:53:07 <frosch123> all trains that go downhill also have to go uphill at some point 21:53:19 <frosch123> so, if you want to make downhill cheaper, just make uphill cheaper 21:53:53 <frosch123> it's the same, just with some short term credit 22:00:46 <George> not the same. if loaded train goes up hill and empty goes down hill it is not much profit, but if loaded train goes down hill and empty goes uphill it makes much profit 22:02:46 <George> Anyway, negative costs now looks as too much effort for too low benefit 22:04:10 <planetmaker> so with the right running cost setting I'd make money by dumping iron ore in the wilderness by just carrying it down? :D 22:17:13 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:18:25 <DevZone> Project Iron Horse build #852-push: SUCCESS in 1 min 25 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/iron-horse/852/ 22:19:20 <George> yes if some one pays for loading and unloading it, and you are only an operator (OTTD model). 22:20:18 <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #269-push: SUCCESS in 3 min 20 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/269/ 23:38:24 <Brot6> Revision 807:de4fe4ff9030: Update: Translations XeintsX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/de4fe4ff9030