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09:08:07 *** Ammler has left #openttdcoop.nightly 17:01:25 *** Yexo has left #openttdcoop.nightly 18:29:43 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:40:45 <Yexo> planetmaker: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/game.sav 18:41:02 <planetmaker> !getsave http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/game.sav 18:41:12 <planetmaker> ah... something's missing :-P 18:45:46 *** Nachtigall has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:45:46 <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged 18:45:46 <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: 'Nachtigall' 18:48:53 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:48:55 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:49:49 *** Zuu_ has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:50:34 <planetmaker> Yexo: 1960 is right? 18:51:01 <Yexo> yep 18:51:03 <Nachtigall> *** pl4netmaker has joined company #1 18:51:04 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:51:20 <Yexo> can be changed of course 18:51:25 <planetmaker> !rcn pause 18:51:27 <Yexo> !pause 18:51:28 <planetmaker> !rcon pause 18:51:29 <Nachtigall> Yexo: you must be channel op to use !pause 18:51:29 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (manual) 18:51:32 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (manual) 18:51:42 <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 6 18:51:42 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:53:58 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:55:26 <planetmaker> !playercount 18:55:26 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Number of players: 6 18:56:19 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:56:30 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:56:57 <andythenorth> game on? 18:57:02 <planetmaker> yes 18:57:09 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #1 18:57:13 <planetmaker> I just paused the server so we don't needlessly run out of time ;-) 18:57:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> did we miss the goals message? :) 18:57:26 <planetmaker> we already lost 17 days ;-) 18:57:27 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> again 7 years, but 50k cargo this time 18:57:27 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Coal, Food and Gold 18:57:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Food will be interesting 18:57:39 <planetmaker> boah... that's a challange 18:57:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Coal should be easy 18:57:57 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> start with coal to make money? 18:57:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Can we plan for 3 mins or so? :) 18:57:59 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:58:10 <planetmaker> yes. maybe we should plan 18:58:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ships give us cheap infrastructure when money is tight 18:58:31 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I don't know if the news at start is possible to catch in MP as clients usually end up connecting at least a tick after it started and then that is too late. 18:58:33 <Nachtigall> <frosch> it's so hard to find a clean checkout 18:58:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but ships deliver slowly 18:58:39 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:58:42 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> hi frosch :-) 18:58:52 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I also was lazy... and downloaded it :-P 18:59:06 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> I had it from yesterday 18:59:10 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I'm not sure how active I will be tonight. 18:59:25 <Nachtigall> <frosch> lol, no, if i join a game then with debug symbols and core dumps enabled :p 18:59:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I think we should build two big spine rail lines in an X 18:59:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> N-S 18:59:43 *** frosch123 has left #openttdcoop.nightly 18:59:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and W-E 18:59:50 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> we can't start that big 18:59:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no 19:00:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but we can work towards that? 19:00:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and dump loads onto it with ships / trams 19:01:10 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how many years we have? 19:01:10 <planetmaker> meh, I want my new computer... the laptop is small :-P 19:01:10 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> 7 years 19:01:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 50k goals? :o 19:01:13 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> start from 11 and 22 to /dest? 19:01:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hard :P 19:01:15 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> 1960 to 1967 19:01:33 <Nachtigall> <frosch> damn, found a bug 19:01:35 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> It will be very hard I say. But a bit better engines than last 19:01:46 *** DDR has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 19:01:53 *** DDR has left #openttdcoop.nightly 19:01:57 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> that's not long, yexo 19:02:20 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> true, but it can be expended to the west 19:02:35 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> see /final 19:02:42 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> need to move farm cargos early 19:02:56 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> what about dest2? 19:03:22 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> do we have enough money to start with that? 19:03:56 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> loan is 300 000 this time 19:04:10 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> completely forgot about the loan 19:04:12 <Nachtigall> *** frosch has joined company #1 19:04:14 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Start with /dest so that we don't lose and then expand to /dest2 19:04:14 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I just borrowed all we can get 19:04:22 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> seems fine 19:04:26 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> and repayed a bit ;-) 19:04:28 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> shall we start? 19:04:30 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Althoug it would have been nice with a dest between /dest and /dest2 19:04:30 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth is checking other cargos for money makers 19:04:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> start! 19:04:35 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> yes 19:04:45 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> tl 5 again? 19:04:51 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> but let's try this. I prefer a bit dest2 over final. More space 19:04:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> someone build the main train line first? 19:05:01 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> TL5 and right side traffic :-) 19:05:05 <Nachtigall> <frosch> oh, i thought there is a specific destination for the cargo 19:05:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> when we have a train line I plan to build some trams for gold... 19:05:15 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> Build in pause! 19:05:18 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> cheatah 19:05:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frosch: anywhere! 19:05:25 <Yexo> @op 19:05:27 <planetmaker> !rcon pause 19:05:27 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:05:31 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:05:33 <planetmaker> !rcon unpause 19:05:33 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: players 19:05:33 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: server_info 19:05:33 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: clients 19:05:33 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: echo doneclientcount 19:05:33 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Unnamed' Year Founded: 1960 Money: 265952 Loan: 270000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:05:33 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 11 more messages 19:05:45 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> frosch: It could be implemented, but not currently 19:05:51 <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 4 19:05:51 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:06:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> anywhere more fun right now 19:06:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> dump trucks just arrived :) 19:06:51 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Which engine? 19:06:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> farms will be hard 19:07:08 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Kelling? 19:07:10 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> farms we need to just dump to nearest processor, then get the food out to nearest town I think 19:07:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Senfield Farm looks good for trams :) 19:08:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> our first train is built? I can spend some money? 19:08:45 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> please! 19:08:52 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Should we not connect the second mine? 19:08:55 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> yes 19:08:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> btw I found subsidies really worth doing to get money in my game 19:09:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> coal will definitely get done, I would only connect as much as we need for money right now 19:09:09 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> and have a train there + a few passing points 19:09:11 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> hm, do we have train? 19:09:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then do farms ASAP 19:09:19 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> We have one train 19:09:34 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> It will take some time before it delivers 19:10:00 <Nachtigall> <frosch> i would think gold is hardest 19:10:06 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> perhaps 19:10:06 <Nachtigall> <frosch> gold mines have so low production 19:10:16 <Nachtigall> <frosch> while farms produce actually a lot 19:10:22 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> ups... I accidentially built a train at the middle plant 19:10:44 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 19:11:19 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> where food plant to use? 19:11:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nearest to any farm 19:11:29 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> at FP? 19:11:37 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> why nearest? 19:11:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ach fair point 19:11:58 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> what about fp2? 19:12:06 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Not many farms yet 19:12:12 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> But more around fp2 19:12:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 10 % - 20% longer routes could mean missing goal by 10% - 20% 19:12:30 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> ok, FP2 19:12:36 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> gives us the ability to reuse the coal line from "farms" 19:12:48 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> andy: distance doesn't mean that really 19:12:58 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> it mostly means more money to better build 19:13:04 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> well let's see 19:13:06 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm easy 19:13:40 <Nachtigall> <frosch> then also b1 in that same area? 19:13:46 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> currently trams are dropping at Senfield Food Processing Plant, but nothing is picking up there 19:14:21 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> use diagonal leveling :-) 19:14:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do towns accept food in summer? 19:14:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's not seasonal acceptance? 19:14:41 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> I completely forgot about that feature 19:15:25 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> short vehicle root from FPP to nearest town? 19:15:29 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Is seasonal acceptance a NewGRF feature or was it in TTD too? 19:15:39 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> in TTD 19:15:45 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> pm: sounds good 19:15:47 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> but ... food is always accepted 19:15:49 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> but we're out of money already 19:15:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's only growth that's seasonal here? 19:16:09 <Nachtigall> <frosch> ttd has no varying snowline 19:16:15 <Nachtigall> <frosch> so there are no seasons :) 19:16:17 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> please, on passing lanes, use one-way 19:16:23 <Nachtigall> <frosch> anyway, acceptance is decided by the houses built 19:16:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yay 19:16:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> money 19:16:53 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> or trains overtake eachother from passing lane to passing lane 19:16:56 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> separate pickup for grain/livestock, right? 19:17:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'd consider doing subsidies, esp. if PAX and can be done with Ships 19:17:10 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> probably good idea 19:17:12 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> a PAX subsidy can pay cost of ship in one trip 19:17:34 <Nachtigall> <frosch> is there a vehicle autorefittable to livestock and grain? :p 19:17:56 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I fear not 19:18:18 <Nachtigall> <frosch> yeah only one livestock van 19:20:24 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I've a farm which needs two trains 19:20:31 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> near the coal drop 19:20:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> food is now moving 19:21:00 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> which engine do we use? CS4000 or Kelling? 19:21:50 <Nachtigall> <frosch> flat terrain, so proably kelling 19:22:04 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I used Kelling before 19:22:07 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> k, was my choice, too 19:22:15 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> I copied from others, so kelling too 19:22:17 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> then let's keep that 19:22:31 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> it's also faster -> better in flat conditions 19:22:53 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> we need to double-track the coal line asap 19:22:59 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> yes 19:23:26 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> and I need 31k to clone a profitable train 19:23:36 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> double that, two trains 19:24:06 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> done 19:24:24 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Still money is needed for double track too 19:24:32 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> working on that now 19:24:54 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Good 19:25:00 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I need another 30k for a train or so 19:25:11 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> grain 19:25:57 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> or first double track? 19:26:03 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> buy train first 19:26:21 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> both now :) 19:26:23 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> done 19:26:29 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> the train 19:28:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I need to build a gold train at Bratbourne - money ok? 19:29:23 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I think so, I work on double tracking at south but does not use so much 19:30:18 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> why did train 9 stop? 19:32:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lol 19:32:54 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> o_O 19:33:02 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> lots of gold to go 19:33:04 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> you finish that ;) 19:33:06 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> That is not even station walking:) 19:33:44 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> andythen0rth: Do you build a tram, or shall I? 19:33:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> you shall :) 19:34:38 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> waiting for 11k then 19:35:12 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> done 19:35:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> next gold tram being built now 19:36:17 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Coal: 4860 Food: 1755 Gold: 160 (at january) 19:36:40 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> which tram for gold? 19:36:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Zuuu: sondstone 19:36:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Yexo: biggest, short refit 19:37:00 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> faster 19:37:07 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> andy: which is? 19:37:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ishuziichicia 19:37:20 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> andythen0rth: ok 19:37:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho 19:37:32 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> thanks 19:37:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> a gift of a ship route at Bronnbridge 19:37:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> * Brondinghall 19:38:07 <Nachtigall> <frosch> what? why does sedingham accept food? 19:38:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> enough houses there? 19:38:58 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> check with station build tool. Just hover 19:39:16 <Nachtigall> <frosch> well, i thought only snowy houses would accept it 19:41:39 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> No... 19:41:42 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> train? 19:41:49 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> train for wheat, tram for livestock? 19:42:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> agh no money :) 19:44:43 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 19:47:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how long left? :o 19:47:19 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> 4 years 19:47:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> woah :) 19:49:33 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Coal: 8100 | Food: 6075 | Gold: 3092 19:49:56 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> at 50k we probably need to prio one cargo? 19:50:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am adding a lot of coal connections 19:50:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I think we could get food too, but we're short of cash :P 19:50:31 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I'm building farms 19:50:34 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> all gold is already connected by now, isn't it? 19:50:36 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> *farm connections 19:50:56 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> pl4netmaker: Thanks, otherwise we would know why we are low on cach :-p 19:51:38 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Pluntborough Market gold mine not connected 20:01:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o 20:03:06 <Nachtigall> <frosch> he, who built a road service at a 189 ton coal mine? :p 20:03:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> guess :P 20:03:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I think it's bad value :P 20:03:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> HEQS buy costs are too high wrt trains 20:03:36 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Link "even better mine w farm" via food factory to network? 20:03:40 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Or is that a too long detour 20:03:50 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> where? 20:03:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frosch: feel free to scrap :P 20:03:52 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Though it could use a different powerplant to make money 20:03:55 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> See sig 20:03:57 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> n 20:04:12 <Nachtigall> <frosch> if you had at least built trams :) 20:04:16 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (general timeout) 20:04:16 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (connection lost) 20:04:32 <Nachtigall> * pl4netmaker built no road service ever today {;-)} 20:04:38 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> There is a power plant up north that we could use instead 20:04:41 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The mine is 160 tones 20:04:54 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> why another powerplant? 20:04:56 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (downloading map took too long) 20:04:56 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (connection lost) 20:05:02 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Because it have to take a detour to our powerplant 20:05:37 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I start building and you decide powerplant:-) 20:06:14 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> nah, I build a farm connection :-P 20:06:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ach the baby woke up :o 20:06:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> biab I guess 20:06:36 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ifat all :P 20:07:00 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> what was the goal message this year? 20:07:31 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> 14040 | 12735 | 12104 20:17:19 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> coal is done, we need to increase food and gold still 20:19:09 <Nachtigall> <frosch> trying to increase the food transport, was only 54% :p 20:23:14 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> massive train jam :( 20:23:36 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> where? 20:23:43 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> mostly gone now 20:23:49 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> exit food factory 20:24:56 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth back 20:25:06 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> For nogoal it'd be really nice if one could check on the goal anytime 20:25:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 20:25:12 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> and how much you fulfilled 20:25:44 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Agreed 20:26:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> money not a problem any more :P 20:27:36 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> the whole south is only scarcly develloped 20:28:26 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> we clearly started with the north 20:28:46 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> are we still on only one powerplant? 20:28:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I have connected lots randomly 20:29:16 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> for rail I think there is only one power plant 20:29:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> too many ships :o 20:29:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fruck 20:29:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 10 :o 20:30:23 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> still need more food 20:30:51 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> coal done, food at 31k gold at 34k 20:39:09 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_ships 500 20:39:54 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> infra maintenance was off this game 20:40:13 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> ah 20:40:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> place your bets :P 20:40:33 <Nachtigall> <frosch> at least you can affort statues everywhere :p 20:40:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 2 months left :P 20:40:45 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> we made food but not gold I think 20:40:45 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> all lost ;-) 20:40:55 <Nachtigall> <frosch> i tried to increase gold a bit 20:41:25 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> hm, we made one at least 20:41:52 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> gold goal is gone 20:42:30 <Nachtigall> <frosch> how can you tell? 20:42:58 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> No, the coal goal is done 20:43:06 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Now food i sdone too 20:43:12 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> nice :-) 20:43:18 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> just fulfilled 20:43:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frick 20:43:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so close :P 20:43:43 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> close call 20:43:47 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> just "620" 20:43:49 <Nachtigall> <frosch> awe 620 tons :( 20:43:51 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Oh, the window worked this time 20:43:53 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> I'm amazed 20:43:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there was a gold tram with unconnected track :P 20:43:55 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> But very close indeed 20:43:58 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I just fixed it :( 20:44:01 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> we did better than I thought 20:44:11 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Yep 20:44:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> need a bigger goal :P 20:44:20 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Very close on the food goal 20:44:20 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> would be a good competition :-) 20:44:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> try it in 1870 20:44:22 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> we didn't even reach this one 20:44:36 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> food was going very fast in the end 20:44:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> head to head is the next step I think :) 20:44:53 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> With all our money we could have bought statues to win this game? 20:44:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Zuuu: would you do head to head same cargos? Or different? 20:45:05 <Nachtigall> <frosch> problem with food for a long time was, while we brought lots of stuff to the plant, we did not collect it :p 20:45:19 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> yep 20:45:21 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> he :-P 20:45:29 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> and only in the last month did I/someone add some extra platforms there 20:45:31 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> Everyone thought anotherone would (have) setup that? 20:45:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> next time - more than 10 ships please :) 20:45:51 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The idea to give different cargos to different companies is interesting although itcan easily get unfair. 20:46:01 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> yes, easily 20:46:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Zuuu: balance would be hard 20:46:13 <Nachtigall> <frosch> yup, production levels are very different 20:46:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> One primary, one secondary? 20:46:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and both get pax? 20:46:24 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> andythen0rth: I was just to build a ship at Grenfingway for livestock and wheat 20:46:24 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> zuu, you could rule out pax/mail and distinguish primary / secondary 20:46:26 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> one gets gold, one coal 20:46:29 <Nachtigall> <frosch> maybe the script could check how much production is available for primary stuff? 20:46:31 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> still very unfair 20:46:37 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> though... gold + coal don't comapre either 20:46:55 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> hm, yes... sum(production total map) 20:46:57 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> food was easier than gold 20:47:00 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> and scale goal by that 20:47:18 <Nachtigall> <frosch> should it always be two primary cargos, one secondary? 20:47:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I like the total randomness tbh 20:47:35 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> Zuu: the goal indication window shows wrong now, though 20:47:43 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> it only lists bronze 20:47:43 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> several good ideas but a setting that configure the alpha value used in the formula may be hard to explain in 5-10 words. 20:47:45 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> with ecs/(and firs?) you even have tertiary cargoes 20:47:51 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> the randomness like now is fine 20:47:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fairness is over-rated ;P 20:48:01 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> :-) 20:48:03 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> pl4netmaker: Bug in the GS 20:48:11 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> yes, just telling ;-) 20:48:18 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> pl4netmaker: It removes the goals based on the cargo index that succeded 20:48:20 <Nachtigall> <frosch> and i think we need a stringcode for normal size font 20:48:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> PBI would be interesting 20:48:29 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> which is wrong 20:48:29 <Nachtigall> <frosch> the newspaper should have a proper headline 20:48:33 <Nachtigall> <pl4netmaker> this script is 1.3 only, right? 20:48:40 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> 1.3 only 20:48:42 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> PBI would prevent dropping all to one destination 20:48:52 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 20:48:58 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> As it relys on Alberths CargoMonitor API 20:49:22 <Yexo> amazing what rail network we managed to build in only 7 years from the start 20:49:24 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 20:49:42 <andythenorth> style goes out the window a bit :) 20:49:44 <planetmaker> thank you again folks :-) 20:49:45 <Nachtigall> <frosch> yeah, and all is just quick and dirty 20:49:56 <Nachtigall> <frosch> lots of singletrack even 20:50:00 <planetmaker> yes, style is very quick and dirty here :-) 20:50:04 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> yep, same here 20:50:11 <planetmaker> I really... need to tease coop folks with this 20:50:15 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> but it worked quite well 20:50:29 <planetmaker> though the initial coal+food network was acceptable somewhat 20:50:33 <Nachtigall> <frosch> there is no time to plan out, you just have to scatter tram all over the place 20:50:36 <planetmaker> I tried to extend that mainly 20:50:39 <andythenorth> it's interesting that trains are so effective 20:50:43 <Nachtigall> <frosch> always shortest connection, fastest built 20:50:44 <Zuu_> planetmaker: install it on the server and surprise them :-) 20:50:51 <andythenorth> if you left it to me I'd build only RVs / Ships 20:50:53 <andythenorth> and would lose :P 20:51:01 <planetmaker> Zuu_: I might do *just that* 20:51:15 <Zuu_> But perhaps with a longer goal. 20:51:21 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (leaving) 20:51:35 <planetmaker> yes. maybe for 10 hours or so 20:51:42 <planetmaker> and reduced maybe even... 20:53:23 <andythenorth> Given that much playing time, coop methods would destroy the goals no? 20:53:46 <andythenorth> Zuu_: still fun :) 20:54:34 * andythenorth wonders if 5 cargos is as much fun :P 20:54:47 <andythenorth> probly not 20:55:26 <Zuu_> andythenorth: then you need to invent a 4:th and 5:th medal 20:57:12 <Zuu_> A quick update tonight will contain news every month and fixed goal removal. 20:57:13 <andythenorth> variation: bronze = 50% of target, all cargos, silver = 75%, gold = 100% 20:57:21 <andythenorth> dunno if that's interesting variation 20:57:34 <Zuu_> I hope that is enough until I get more time to fix also less important things 20:57:44 <andythenorth> Zuu_: sounds great 20:57:51 <Yexo> might even be better than current 20:57:58 <Yexo> easier to get at least silver if you're shooting for gold 20:58:13 <Yexo> like this game we risked ending up with bronze even while we were very close to gold 20:58:18 <andythenorth> I like that 20:58:20 <andythenorth> risk 20:58:42 <Zuu_> Indeed, that give an interesting decision 20:58:43 <Nachtigall> *** frosch has left the game (leaving) 20:58:59 <andythenorth> definitely not default industries next time imo :) 20:59:42 <planetmaker> I think the default industries suit this style well. 20:59:48 <planetmaker> pbi would only screw up this script 20:59:56 <planetmaker> or any limited acceptance 21:00:12 <andythenorth> would need more care 21:00:18 <andythenorth> might work for a 30 year game 21:00:19 <andythenorth> but not 7 :P 21:00:42 <planetmaker> nah, that's too much micro planning then 21:00:54 <Yexo> just lower the goals a bit 21:01:06 <Yexo> the goals are highly dependent on the newgrf setup anyway 21:01:37 <planetmaker> of course :-) 21:01:46 <planetmaker> actually I'd like to see it play with firs :-) 21:01:54 <planetmaker> which demands supply chain setup 21:02:43 <andythenorth> my FIRS game worked ok 21:02:55 <andythenorth> FIRS would be better for co-opetitive play 21:03:07 <andythenorth> there's no obvious best cargos 21:03:18 <andythenorth> unless one team got lots of tertiary cargo :P 21:04:01 <planetmaker> bah, against time and others... *that* then is really stressful 21:04:26 * Yexo wants to combine this with h2h 21:04:34 <planetmaker> :-) 21:04:34 <Yexo> everyone the same cargoes 21:04:41 <planetmaker> that'd be cool 21:06:27 <andythenorth> +1 21:06:44 <andythenorth> same cargos *without* h2h would be pure evil 21:07:02 <Yexo> now that would be real competition :p 21:09:25 * Zuu_ have uploaded NoCarGoal v2 to bananas 21:09:31 <planetmaker> :-) 21:09:37 <planetmaker> !content 21:09:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Connection established 21:09:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Expect timeout triggered! 21:09:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 21:09:47 <planetmaker> !content 21:09:49 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Expect timeout triggered! 21:09:51 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Downloading 3 file(s) (35981 bytes) 21:09:51 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 21:09:54 <planetmaker> hm 21:10:11 <planetmaker> downloaded :D 21:16:26 <andythenorth> tempting to play again 21:16:30 <andythenorth> but...bed :) 21:16:32 <andythenorth> good night 21:16:39 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.nightly 21:30:13 *** Zuu_ has quit IRC 21:35:02 <Nachtigall> *** pl4netmaker has left the game (leaving)