Log for #openttdcoop.nightly on 27th August 2012:
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12:29:38  <V453000> !info
12:29:38  <Nachtigall> V453000: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'Dondhattan Transport'  Year Founded: 1965  Money: 372819  Loan: 0  Value: 2925598  (T:49, R:45, P:0, S:9) unprotected
12:29:42  <V453000> !dl win64
12:29:42  <Nachtigall> V453000:
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12:30:58  <planetmaker> !dl osx
12:30:59  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
12:31:25  <V453000> I think something is wrong with the link
12:31:31  <V453000> at least for win64 it gives 404
12:33:49  <planetmaker> yes. Obviously it's not "releases" but "nightlies"
12:34:04  <V453000> that didnt work for me either
12:34:12  <andythenorth> V453000: we'll need more players :)
12:34:21  <V453000> yeye
12:35:17  <V453000> !Date
12:35:20  <V453000> !date
12:35:20  <Nachtigall> V453000:  1 Jan 1976
12:35:23  <V453000> k
12:37:09  <planetmaker> !dl osx
12:37:09  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
12:37:19  <Nachtigall> <V453000> so what is this all about?
12:37:43  <V453000> I skimmed through the blog, so some goals of amount of transported things?
12:38:23  <planetmaker> !dl osx
12:38:23  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
12:46:09  <planetmaker> !dl win32
12:46:09  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
12:58:26  * andythenorth is having a toddler-painting related interruption :P
12:58:50  <andythenorth> V453000: goal is to transport x total amount, for 3 random cargos
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19:17:41  * andythenorth proposes a 5 year game, 1980, default industries, high no. industries, cheap HEQS, flat map, lots of rivers
19:19:06  <andythenorth> there's a new NoCarGoal
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19:48:09  <frosch123> let's see whether the game is loaded
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19:49:55  <frosch123> pax, oil, iron ore :p
19:50:32  <frosch123> andythenorth: server is running
19:50:49  <andythenorth> frosch123: thanks \o/
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19:56:10  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so, can we archieve pax with in-town busses only?
19:56:20  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so we do not have to bother with a mixed train network :)
19:56:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :)
19:56:32  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> dunno :)
19:56:37  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I reckon you can
19:56:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> if we get money, the boats are good for PAX
19:56:50  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> after all, it's about amount of cargo, not distance/profit
19:56:51  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> biggest is ~800
19:57:12  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so the shorter pax is in a vehicle the more efficient it is to reach the goal
19:57:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1
19:57:24  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> on the other hand, it would probably cost some money
19:57:26  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> same for freight
19:57:33  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the big spine routes make no real sense
19:57:40  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> what's our money maker then?
19:58:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> iron ore?
19:58:29  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> iirc iron ore pays bad, and only steel good
19:58:55  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> bidirectional train between the two biggest towns?
19:58:55  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it pays better  than oil though
19:59:07  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> for pax
19:59:17  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do all the PAX subsidies we get offered
19:59:36  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that should pay in both directions and you can push pretty much the whole town on the train so lots and lots of passengers
19:59:38  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> undingworth?
19:59:48  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> lindhil croos
19:59:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> make money on PAX, then do oil (Hardest, fewest sources)
20:00:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ?
20:00:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> shall we start :)
20:00:37  <frosch123> it's time for it
20:00:45  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> fine by me; I was thinking about Tundingworth to Getston vv
20:01:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I gave us a big loan I think
20:01:13  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> two building a transfer route in the towns and the other building a rail between the towns
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20:01:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bus transfers?  or walk the station?
20:02:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> buses I see
20:02:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho
20:02:25  <Nachtigall> <V453000> hio
20:02:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I placed a sign for lake shore ferries
20:03:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hi V453000
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20:04:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hi Zuuu
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20:04:33  <Nachtigall> <V453000> or should I start a second company?
20:04:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> V453000: good luck if you do :P
20:04:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> what happens if we buy you?
20:04:50  <Nachtigall> <V453000> idk :D
20:04:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do we get your goal counts?
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20:05:01  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Hmm, is it an OpenTTD bug that the company goal list shows global goals when you spectate?
20:05:25  <Nachtigall> <V453000> hm
20:05:31  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I want wood! :(
20:05:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> the cargoes are the same for all companies?
20:05:50  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> You will not get his goal counts, that thing I haven't though of :-)
20:05:57  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> V453000: Yes
20:06:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> would add a new dimension to take-overs :P
20:06:11  <Nachtigall> <V453000> so basically all but 3 cargoes are useless now?
20:06:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> woah
20:06:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I need bigger / faster ships :O
20:06:27  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> V453000: Except for generating money yes
20:06:33  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how are we for train building money?
20:06:37  <Nachtigall> <V453000> that sounds really counterproductive
20:06:40  <Nachtigall> <V453000> for the game
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20:08:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> my connection is slow today :(
20:09:41  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> hi there
20:09:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lo
20:10:17  <Nachtigall> <V453000> Hi :)
20:10:19  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> playing... how did that work?
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20:10:45  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> reckon PAX will get done in 25 years?
20:12:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> should start some oil
20:12:51  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks are cheap here :)
20:13:47  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Is the idea to work in one company, or should I start a new one?
20:14:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Hirundo: join one of the existing
20:14:11  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i doubt you manage the goal alone :p
20:14:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> you won't make the goals alone
20:14:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's *hard* :)
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20:14:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pax is done? :P
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20:15:51  <Nachtigall> <V453000> for how long period is the goal?
20:15:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 1985
20:16:04  <Nachtigall> <V453000> yeah but the amount of cargo
20:16:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 25k total per cargo by 1985
20:16:20  <Nachtigall> <V453000> ah
20:16:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> all time
20:17:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no money :P
20:17:18  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> where did the 59k go?
20:17:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pax is solved
20:17:20  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> don't waste everything into trucks again :p
20:17:23  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> let's get oil next
20:17:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch:  trucks are *way* cheaper this time ;)
20:17:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ogfx + truck is £2k not £13k
20:18:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> HEQS dump truck is £4k not £34k :P
20:19:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm going to scrap some ships
20:19:05  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> PAX is done anyway
20:19:16  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I love this signalling-when-trains-are-on-the-track feature by the way
20:19:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1
20:19:25  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Is there anything I can do? just semi-randomly connect oil and iore?
20:19:40  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> V453000: the put blocks around trains on tracks was just too weird :p
20:19:56  <Nachtigall> <V453000> ah :)
20:19:58  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> Hirundo: build as fast as you can
20:20:04  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> shortest route,
20:20:06  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth needs to do some oil
20:20:06  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> transport much, not far
20:21:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yeay
20:21:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> those trucks don't transport oil ;)
20:22:09  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> d'oh
20:23:15  <Nachtigall> <V453000> lol dump trucks for oil :D
20:24:23  <Nachtigall> *** Patched Zuu has joined company #1
20:24:37  <Nachtigall> <Patched Zuu> My fix does look like it work. :-)
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20:27:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> meh
20:27:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ships need to be cheaper
20:30:52  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> are breakdowns on o_0?
20:30:58  <Nachtigall> <V453000> what?
20:31:05  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oh god
20:33:22  <planetmaker> switch them off then ;-)
20:33:45  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I havent even noticed a train breaking down yet :D that is why the surprise
20:38:04  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oh god freight multiplier 4 :D
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20:38:16  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I was wondering why are those t rains so worthless
20:39:05  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> my 7-tile oil train with a single sh40 was indeed slower than I expected :-)
20:39:32  <Nachtigall> <V453000> yeah but sh40 has at least some power, those diesel bastards not so much :)
20:47:09  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Hmm, when a GS is loaded, it would make sense that the default league table is scraped and the GS get to control the ranking of companies.
20:47:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1
20:47:53  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Makes sense to me
20:49:01  <Nachtigall> <V453000> k ore mines used up
20:49:24  <Nachtigall> <V453000> put your hands off keyboard, facepalm, say gg :D
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20:50:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hovercraft for oil :P
20:54:16  <planetmaker> 22:47 Nachtigall: <Zuuu> Hmm, when a GS is loaded, it would make sense that the default league table is scraped and the GS get to control the ranking of companies.  <-- agreed
20:55:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so are the totals per company or whole map?
20:55:21  <Nachtigall> <V453000> idk im getting some reports which are for sure for company
20:55:41  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> the reports are per company
20:55:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no aircraft refit to oil :(
20:56:04  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The only way to get data about another company is to join that company.
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20:56:46  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> (or ask people on that company and trust that they are not lying)
20:57:45  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> oil oil oil :)
20:58:39  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I now have a RV->ship->train route
20:58:41  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> who messed up? :p
20:58:51  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> maybe I did
20:58:53  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> the most-producing oil mine is half a map away from a refinery :S
20:59:16  <Nachtigall> <V453000> how is that bad
21:00:22  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> who cares
21:01:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil production falls fast :P
21:01:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> stupid smooth economy :)
21:01:21  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> it's 'realism' :)
21:01:27  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho ho
21:01:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we won
21:01:29  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> \o/
21:01:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pretty close :)
21:01:49  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fewer players, we'd have got silver only I think
21:02:08  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> awesome, and that despite me
21:02:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> V453000: how much did you haul?
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21:02:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> passengers done, iron ore should complete itself, got 44% now
21:02:49  <Nachtigall> <V453000> fuck oil
21:02:51  <Nachtigall> <V453000> gg
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21:03:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> V453000: one against 4, and you started a year late :D
21:03:15  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> why can'T you see the goals of other companies?
21:03:31  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> V453000: The others could help you by transfering oil to you at an oil rig (if there is one) :-)
21:03:37  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> are they secret?
21:03:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
21:03:53  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it would be interesting if only 1 out of 3 cargos was shared :)
21:04:03  <Nachtigall> <V453000> lol :)
21:04:06  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> fr0sch: Currently OpenTTD only displays your own goals.
21:04:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> GS configurable high score? :P
21:04:48  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> andythen0rth: Not sure about that, but what I have in mind is GSCompany::SetScore(score)
21:04:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> League table is hardly complicated right now :)
21:04:53  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> where score would be 1-1000
21:05:12  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> and that would cause the legue table to re-sort according to the GS wishes.
21:05:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ok so now I want a lemmings-style, nuke all trains
21:05:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for victory
21:05:27  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> meh
21:05:45  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains list should have an 'ignore signals' button for all trains
21:06:07  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> that'd make for some carnage if you miss-click :P
21:06:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or UFOs come
21:06:35  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Allow GS to order UFOs?
21:06:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :)
21:07:35  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> night
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21:08:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bedtime for andythen0rth
21:08:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> thanks for turning up and playing :)
21:08:33  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Night
21:08:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> another fun NoCarGoal game :)
21:08:53  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Thanks for demonstrating the OpenTTD bug with spectators :-)
21:09:04  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I just noticed r24500 ^^
21:09:27  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the game is fun again :)
21:09:41  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth -> bed
21:09:41  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> for a few days :p
21:09:49  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I've destroyed enough trains now :)
21:09:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch: we can always write another GS :)
21:10:01  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the end screen is broken?
21:10:23  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The end screen didn't show up in our first game either.
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21:10:32  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I don't know if its broken for MP or broken for Gold.
21:10:37  * andythenorth is going to bed :)
21:10:39  <andythenorth> good night
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21:10:40  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i showed up last game
21:10:50  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> It could be that the packet with the end game screen is lost.
21:11:05  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> If I transmitt it eg 5 times, and you get all packets, you will get 5 windows on top of each other.
21:11:41  <Nachtigall> * Hirundo has no clue
21:11:43  <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> goodnight
21:11:46  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> night
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