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12:16:38 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 12:16:44 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop.nightly 12:23:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 12:29:34 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 12:29:38 <V453000> !info 12:29:38 <Nachtigall> V453000: #:1(Red) Company Name: 'Dondhattan Transport' Year Founded: 1965 Money: 372819 Loan: 0 Value: 2925598 (T:49, R:45, P:0, S:9) unprotected 12:29:42 <V453000> !dl win64 12:29:42 <Nachtigall> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/r24494/openttd-r24494-windows-win64.zip 12:30:36 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 12:30:58 <planetmaker> !dl osx 12:30:59 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/r24494/openttd-r24494-macosx-universal.zip 12:31:25 <V453000> I think something is wrong with the link 12:31:31 <V453000> at least for win64 it gives 404 12:33:49 <planetmaker> yes. Obviously it's not "releases" but "nightlies" 12:34:04 <V453000> that didnt work for me either 12:34:12 <andythenorth> V453000: we'll need more players :) 12:34:21 <V453000> yeye 12:35:17 <V453000> !Date 12:35:20 <V453000> !date 12:35:20 <Nachtigall> V453000: 1 Jan 1976 12:35:23 <V453000> k 12:37:09 <planetmaker> !dl osx 12:37:09 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24494/openttd-r24494-macosx-universal.zip 12:37:19 <Nachtigall> <V453000> so what is this all about? 12:37:43 <V453000> I skimmed through the blog, so some goals of amount of transported things? 12:38:23 <planetmaker> !dl osx 12:38:23 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24494/openttd-trunk-r24494-macosx-universal.zip 12:46:09 <planetmaker> !dl win32 12:46:09 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24494/openttd-trunk-r24494-windows-win32.zip 12:58:26 * andythenorth is having a toddler-painting related interruption :P 12:58:50 <andythenorth> V453000: goal is to transport x total amount, for 3 random cargos 13:20:01 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:54:06 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:00:28 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 16:45:47 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest4618 16:45:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 16:46:21 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest4619 16:46:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 17:10:58 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest4625 17:10:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 17:11:19 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 17:49:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:15:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 19:17:41 * andythenorth proposes a 5 year game, 1980, default industries, high no. industries, cheap HEQS, flat map, lots of rivers 19:19:06 <andythenorth> there's a new NoCarGoal 19:47:47 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:48:09 <frosch123> let's see whether the game is loaded 19:49:18 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:49:22 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:49:22 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:49:55 <frosch123> pax, oil, iron ore :p 19:50:32 <frosch123> andythenorth: server is running 19:50:49 <andythenorth> frosch123: thanks \o/ 19:51:02 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:55:07 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:56:10 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so, can we archieve pax with in-town busses only? 19:56:20 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so we do not have to bother with a mixed train network :) 19:56:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :) 19:56:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> dunno :) 19:56:37 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I reckon you can 19:56:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> if we get money, the boats are good for PAX 19:56:50 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> after all, it's about amount of cargo, not distance/profit 19:56:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> biggest is ~800 19:57:12 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so the shorter pax is in a vehicle the more efficient it is to reach the goal 19:57:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 19:57:24 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> on the other hand, it would probably cost some money 19:57:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> same for freight 19:57:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the big spine routes make no real sense 19:57:40 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> what's our money maker then? 19:58:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> iron ore? 19:58:29 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> iirc iron ore pays bad, and only steel good 19:58:55 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> bidirectional train between the two biggest towns? 19:58:55 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it pays better than oil though 19:59:07 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> for pax 19:59:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do all the PAX subsidies we get offered 19:59:36 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that should pay in both directions and you can push pretty much the whole town on the train so lots and lots of passengers 19:59:38 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> undingworth? 19:59:48 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> lindhil croos 19:59:58 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> make money on PAX, then do oil (Hardest, fewest sources) 20:00:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ? 20:00:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> shall we start :) 20:00:37 <frosch123> it's time for it 20:00:45 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> fine by me; I was thinking about Tundingworth to Getston vv 20:01:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I gave us a big loan I think 20:01:13 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> two building a transfer route in the towns and the other building a rail between the towns 20:01:15 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 20:01:15 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:01:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bus transfers? or walk the station? 20:02:04 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> buses I see 20:02:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho 20:02:25 <Nachtigall> <V453000> hio 20:02:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I placed a sign for lake shore ferries 20:03:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hi V453000 20:03:24 <Nachtigall> *** Unicorn has left the game (leaving) 20:03:49 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has joined company #1 20:04:19 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #1 20:04:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hi Zuuu 20:04:31 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined spectators 20:04:33 <Nachtigall> <V453000> or should I start a second company? 20:04:38 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> V453000: good luck if you do :P 20:04:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> what happens if we buy you? 20:04:50 <Nachtigall> <V453000> idk :D 20:04:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do we get your goal counts? 20:04:52 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has joined spectators 20:04:54 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has started a new company (#2) 20:05:01 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Hmm, is it an OpenTTD bug that the company goal list shows global goals when you spectate? 20:05:25 <Nachtigall> <V453000> hm 20:05:31 <Nachtigall> <V453000> I want wood! :( 20:05:47 <Nachtigall> <V453000> the cargoes are the same for all companies? 20:05:50 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> You will not get his goal counts, that thing I haven't though of :-) 20:05:57 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> V453000: Yes 20:06:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> would add a new dimension to take-overs :P 20:06:11 <Nachtigall> <V453000> so basically all but 3 cargoes are useless now? 20:06:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> woah 20:06:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I need bigger / faster ships :O 20:06:27 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> V453000: Except for generating money yes 20:06:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how are we for train building money? 20:06:37 <Nachtigall> <V453000> that sounds really counterproductive 20:06:40 <Nachtigall> <V453000> for the game 20:06:42 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has joined spectators 20:07:45 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 20:07:45 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:07:53 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:07:53 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:08:00 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> my connection is slow today :( 20:09:41 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> hi there 20:09:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lo 20:10:17 <Nachtigall> <V453000> Hi :) 20:10:19 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> playing... how did that work? 20:10:41 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has joined company #2 20:10:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> reckon PAX will get done in 25 years? 20:12:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> should start some oil 20:12:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks are cheap here :) 20:13:47 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Is the idea to work in one company, or should I start a new one? 20:14:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Hirundo: join one of the existing 20:14:11 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i doubt you manage the goal alone :p 20:14:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> you won't make the goals alone 20:14:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's *hard* :) 20:14:24 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has joined company #1 20:14:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pax is done? :P 20:15:17 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (general timeout) 20:15:17 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (connection lost) 20:15:51 <Nachtigall> <V453000> for how long period is the goal? 20:15:58 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 1985 20:16:04 <Nachtigall> <V453000> yeah but the amount of cargo 20:16:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 25k total per cargo by 1985 20:16:20 <Nachtigall> <V453000> ah 20:16:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> all time 20:17:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no money :P 20:17:18 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> where did the 59k go? 20:17:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pax is solved 20:17:20 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> don't waste everything into trucks again :p 20:17:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> let's get oil next 20:17:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch: trucks are *way* cheaper this time ;) 20:17:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ogfx + truck is £2k not £13k 20:18:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> HEQS dump truck is £4k not £34k :P 20:19:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm going to scrap some ships 20:19:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> PAX is done anyway 20:19:16 <Nachtigall> <V453000> I love this signalling-when-trains-are-on-the-track feature by the way 20:19:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 20:19:25 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Is there anything I can do? just semi-randomly connect oil and iore? 20:19:40 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> V453000: the put blocks around trains on tracks was just too weird :p 20:19:56 <Nachtigall> <V453000> ah :) 20:19:58 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> Hirundo: build as fast as you can 20:20:04 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> shortest route, 20:20:06 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth needs to do some oil 20:20:06 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> transport much, not far 20:21:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yeay 20:21:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> those trucks don't transport oil ;) 20:22:09 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> d'oh 20:23:15 <Nachtigall> <V453000> lol dump trucks for oil :D 20:24:23 <Nachtigall> *** Patched Zuu has joined company #1 20:24:37 <Nachtigall> <Patched Zuu> My fix does look like it work. :-) 20:25:04 <Nachtigall> *** Patched Zuu has joined spectators 20:27:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> meh 20:27:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ships need to be cheaper 20:30:52 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> are breakdowns on o_0? 20:30:58 <Nachtigall> <V453000> what? 20:31:05 <Nachtigall> <V453000> oh god 20:33:22 <planetmaker> switch them off then ;-) 20:33:45 <Nachtigall> <V453000> I havent even noticed a train breaking down yet :D that is why the surprise 20:38:04 <Nachtigall> <V453000> oh god freight multiplier 4 :D 20:38:14 <Nachtigall> *** Patched Zuu has left the game (leaving) 20:38:16 <Nachtigall> <V453000> I was wondering why are those t rains so worthless 20:39:05 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> my 7-tile oil train with a single sh40 was indeed slower than I expected :-) 20:39:32 <Nachtigall> <V453000> yeah but sh40 has at least some power, those diesel bastards not so much :) 20:47:09 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Hmm, when a GS is loaded, it would make sense that the default league table is scraped and the GS get to control the ranking of companies. 20:47:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 20:47:53 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Makes sense to me 20:49:01 <Nachtigall> <V453000> k ore mines used up 20:49:24 <Nachtigall> <V453000> put your hands off keyboard, facepalm, say gg :D 20:49:58 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #2 20:50:08 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined spectators 20:50:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hovercraft for oil :P 20:54:16 <planetmaker> 22:47 Nachtigall: <Zuuu> Hmm, when a GS is loaded, it would make sense that the default league table is scraped and the GS get to control the ranking of companies. <-- agreed 20:55:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so are the totals per company or whole map? 20:55:21 <Nachtigall> <V453000> idk im getting some reports which are for sure for company 20:55:41 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> the reports are per company 20:55:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no aircraft refit to oil :( 20:56:04 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The only way to get data about another company is to join that company. 20:56:16 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #2 20:56:32 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 20:56:46 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> (or ask people on that company and trust that they are not lying) 20:57:45 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> oil oil oil :) 20:58:39 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I now have a RV->ship->train route 20:58:41 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> who messed up? :p 20:58:51 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> maybe I did 20:58:53 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> the most-producing oil mine is half a map away from a refinery :S 20:59:16 <Nachtigall> <V453000> how is that bad 21:00:22 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> who cares 21:01:04 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil production falls fast :P 21:01:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> stupid smooth economy :) 21:01:21 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> it's 'realism' :) 21:01:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho ho 21:01:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we won 21:01:29 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> \o/ 21:01:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pretty close :) 21:01:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fewer players, we'd have got silver only I think 21:02:08 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> awesome, and that despite me 21:02:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> V453000: how much did you haul? 21:02:17 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #1 21:02:21 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #2 21:02:27 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #2 21:02:29 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined spectators 21:02:33 <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has joined company #2 21:02:47 <Nachtigall> <V453000> passengers done, iron ore should complete itself, got 44% now 21:02:49 <Nachtigall> <V453000> fuck oil 21:02:51 <Nachtigall> <V453000> gg 21:02:51 <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has joined company #1 21:02:57 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 21:03:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> V453000: one against 4, and you started a year late :D 21:03:15 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> why can'T you see the goals of other companies? 21:03:31 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> V453000: The others could help you by transfering oil to you at an oil rig (if there is one) :-) 21:03:37 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> are they secret? 21:03:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm 21:03:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it would be interesting if only 1 out of 3 cargos was shared :) 21:04:03 <Nachtigall> <V453000> lol :) 21:04:06 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> fr0sch: Currently OpenTTD only displays your own goals. 21:04:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> GS configurable high score? :P 21:04:48 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> andythen0rth: Not sure about that, but what I have in mind is GSCompany::SetScore(score) 21:04:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> League table is hardly complicated right now :) 21:04:53 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> where score would be 1-1000 21:05:12 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> and that would cause the legue table to re-sort according to the GS wishes. 21:05:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ok so now I want a lemmings-style, nuke all trains 21:05:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for victory 21:05:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> meh 21:05:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains list should have an 'ignore signals' button for all trains 21:06:07 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> that'd make for some carnage if you miss-click :P 21:06:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or UFOs come 21:06:35 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Allow GS to order UFOs? 21:06:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :) 21:07:35 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> night 21:07:37 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium has left the game (leaving) 21:08:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bedtime for andythen0rth 21:08:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> thanks for turning up and playing :) 21:08:33 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Night 21:08:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> another fun NoCarGoal game :) 21:08:53 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Thanks for demonstrating the OpenTTD bug with spectators :-) 21:09:04 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I just noticed r24500 ^^ 21:09:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the game is fun again :) 21:09:41 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth -> bed 21:09:41 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> for a few days :p 21:09:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I've destroyed enough trains now :) 21:09:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch: we can always write another GS :) 21:10:01 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the end screen is broken? 21:10:23 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The end screen didn't show up in our first game either. 21:10:25 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 21:10:32 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I don't know if its broken for MP or broken for Gold. 21:10:37 * andythenorth is going to bed :) 21:10:39 <andythenorth> good night 21:10:39 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.nightly 21:10:40 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i showed up last game 21:10:50 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> It could be that the packet with the end game screen is lost. 21:11:05 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> If I transmitt it eg 5 times, and you get all packets, you will get 5 windows on top of each other. 21:11:41 <Nachtigall> * Hirundo has no clue 21:11:43 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> goodnight 21:11:46 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> night 21:11:48 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (leaving) 21:11:53 <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has left the game (leaving) 21:15:03 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:15:33 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 21:18:57 *** frosch123 has quit IRC