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17:08:12 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:28:38 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:38:14 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:40:01 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:40:03 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:40:05 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:41:07 <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has joined company #1 18:42:06 <Alberth> ok, version? 18:42:17 <frosch123> r24502 18:42:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:42:47 <frosch123> we are lucky, there is already one industry present 18:42:51 <frosch123> so we only have to fund 2 18:43:01 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:43:34 <frosch123> join company 1, or first start a new company to get some introductory text 18:43:51 <Alberth> still building a binary :) 18:44:02 <frosch123> still paused :) 18:44:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch: so we need to construct 3 new industries? 18:44:14 <frosch123> there is alread yone 18:44:19 <frosch123> so, only two 18:44:22 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:44:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> existing ones are included or ignored? 18:44:25 <frosch123> found cost is 1/4 18:44:29 <frosch123> see goal gui 18:44:40 <frosch123> that goal is already 1/3 complete 18:44:42 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> he 18:44:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that's cheating if one exists already :) 18:44:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> GS control over map gen? :P 18:45:00 <Nachtigall> *** alberth has started a new company (#2) 18:45:00 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:45:23 <frosch123> well, it tries to pick a town with a very small area, so you have to put the industries close 18:46:42 <frosch123> what should be the money maker? 18:46:51 <frosch123> or should we directly go for goods? 18:47:02 <frosch123> it does not matter when we start to produce goods 18:47:04 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> farms to Nendingworth? 18:47:13 <frosch123> only one quarter matters 18:47:22 <frosch123> signs? 18:47:28 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> alternatively Tutford Coal mine to somewhere 18:47:28 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:47:34 <Nachtigall> *** alberth has left the game (leaving) 18:47:46 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:47:48 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #1 18:47:59 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth eating 18:48:06 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch: coal money maker 18:48:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do we have to build massive train lines? 18:48:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or can I use a lot of trucks? 18:48:39 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we need lots of money to fund industries at some point 18:48:40 <Alberth> oh goods is way better :) 18:48:47 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I'd use rail for to begin with 18:49:05 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> anyhow, I'd start with 1&2 to the industry in Nendingworth 18:49:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> start then? 18:49:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> if we are to be asleep at nice times 18:49:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> t 18:49:38 <Nachtigall> * Zuuu is trying to fix a wxWidgets issue, but might come in and join instead as its a non-nice bug. :-p 18:49:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> "openttd, where players go to bed early" 18:49:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we're so rock and roll :P 18:50:03 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:50:24 <Nachtigall> *** Terkh3n has joined company #1 18:50:30 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> did I miss much? :P 18:50:44 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> No, the game just started 18:50:46 <Alberth> yeah, we're almost finished :p 18:50:49 * Terkhen reads 18:51:23 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> interesting :) 18:51:35 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> ooh, clicking on town names at the goal window works 18:52:16 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I'm going to look while you do the moneymakers and I finish my dinner :P 18:52:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ditto 18:54:24 <Alberth> someone is stealing money :p 18:55:40 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> what, you couldn't walk that station? :P 18:55:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> try harder :P 18:55:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> [Wranbury Mines] 18:56:10 <Alberth> I'll walk you :) 18:57:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> are we rich yet? 18:58:01 <frosch123> you can continue eating 18:58:20 <frosch123> play a bit with the toddlers 18:58:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> toddlers firmly asleep I hope 18:59:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh a bug 18:59:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf is going on in the bottom left of my screen :P 18:59:42 <frosch123> it's ingame chat 18:59:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no I have an area of drawing failure :P 19:00:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> rectangular 19:00:23 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> in the size of ingame chat? :p 19:00:25 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined spectators 19:00:40 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> should 'client list' bring up a client list? 19:00:52 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 19:01:43 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 19:02:05 <Alberth> build double tracks? 19:02:51 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> need more trains!!! 19:03:03 <Alberth> nah, more money :p 19:04:03 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> wow, property maintenance is high 19:04:25 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> build less tracks :p 19:04:40 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> but yes, the basecost grf does that my default for some reason 19:04:46 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> we cannot build two track monstruosities then? :( 19:06:15 <andythenorth> build trucks! 19:06:17 <andythenorth> meh 19:06:45 <Terkhen> but trucks are boring! they go slow in curves and stuff 19:07:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks are low cost 19:07:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and deliver quickly :P 19:07:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but no big exciting payoffs like trains 19:08:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> grrr 19:08:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I need to release a better FISH 19:09:05 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> well a basecode grf is already present 19:09:11 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> you just did not tell me in advance :) 19:11:33 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I finished my dinner 19:11:37 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> still not rich it seems :P 19:11:47 <Alberth> eat some more, we're still out of mioney :) 19:13:42 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> where is our airport? 19:13:56 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> hmm, never mind 19:14:06 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it's just station tiles that are ridicuously expensive 19:14:33 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> ~ 2/3 of all infrastructure costs 19:14:45 <frosch123> blame ammler :p 19:14:51 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> heh 19:14:59 <frosch123> all parameters of basecost mod default to 4x for station maintenenance 19:18:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> subsidy! 19:18:46 *** Zuu has quit IRC 19:18:54 <Terkhen> I asked Ammler WRT updating the NewGRF, but IIRC he wasn't interested 19:19:10 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 19:19:30 <frosch123> i guess it's on the devzone, so maybe supply some diff 19:19:44 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I think that it is on nfo, so no :P 19:20:00 <frosch123> it has a14, so it cant be that old 19:20:33 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth did a subsidy 19:23:06 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> oh you build a second coal train 19:23:12 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i was hoping for a farm train 19:23:28 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> without another platform :p 19:23:56 <Alberth> transform it? but I think we nee money 19:24:00 <Alberth> *need 19:24:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there's money now 19:24:37 <Alberth> oh yeah, a wopping 29, 000 19:24:59 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> hmm, train's won't turn around at stations? 19:25:05 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that sucks 19:25:05 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> no 19:25:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> mail subsidies :( 19:25:22 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> change setting? 19:25:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> mail sucks 19:25:47 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it would make the Nendingworth Woods station more efficient 19:26:29 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> try again 19:27:11 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> what's wrong with mail subsidies? :P 19:27:12 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that's better 19:27:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> mail smells 19:27:25 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> :P 19:27:39 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> passenger subsidies should be more frequent, we just had bad luck 19:29:20 <Alberth> interesting train :) 19:29:24 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> hmm... no money yet 19:30:02 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth does the subsidy cheat :P 19:32:35 <Alberth> frosch123: train is too long 19:32:50 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> yeah, noticed 19:33:04 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> also it looks like in the south everyone drives on the left :p 19:33:04 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I'd like some 30 k for a train please ;) 19:33:27 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> thanks 19:34:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bored of this ship subsidy 19:36:00 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> some trains seem to have too much grain wagons 19:37:27 <Alberth> plenty of iron ore south of nendingworth, and a steel mill as well 19:38:53 <frosch123> can you turn it into a money mill? 19:39:58 <Alberth> let's try :) 19:42:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> will all steel get dropped to our target town? 19:42:58 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we still have no money ;) 19:43:07 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: I'd do that 19:43:24 <Alberth> that was the idea :) 19:43:50 <Alberth> except i need money for an engine 19:44:03 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i need money to resolve a jam 19:44:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> mmm 19:44:21 <Alberth> jam seems more important :) 19:44:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> jam 19:44:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> jam factory? 19:45:03 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> ohoh 19:45:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains :o 19:45:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for iron ore that long? 19:45:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P 19:45:23 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth is quizzical today :) 19:45:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> o_O 19:52:09 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> ooh 19:52:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 5k crates per *quarter* ? 19:52:13 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> yes 19:52:16 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> it is the first time I check this and we have money 19:52:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh 19:52:20 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> what can I do? :P 19:52:31 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> about 600 per industry per month 19:58:53 <Alberth> hmm, tram line :( 19:59:08 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> for the goods? 19:59:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> steel 19:59:24 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we should probably sell all goods trucks 19:59:26 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> and build tram isntead 20:01:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we are so dead :D 20:02:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I should stop building low income things :P 20:03:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am addicted to RVs :( 20:03:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 4k outlay produces 10k income in first year 20:03:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but train produces 20k or 40k per year :( 20:15:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> what's the tl? 20:15:40 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> pi 20:15:50 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> nah, don't think there is one 20:16:20 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> there are a few blocked trains at Nendingworth factory 20:16:27 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> s/blocked/jammed/ 20:17:56 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> oh, moneyz 20:18:10 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we only need to build some industries 20:18:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> sawmill is 246 20:18:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we haz forests 20:18:41 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> seems like, the other goals are reasonabily fulfilled 20:18:45 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we need good producers 20:18:55 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> factory is 228 20:19:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we haz oil too 20:19:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ach 20:19:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no we don't 20:19:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's going to close soon :P 20:19:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's crappy amounts 20:19:31 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> but a refinery in the middle of the map is burdensome 20:19:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> sawmill! 20:19:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> please 20:19:39 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> there are other oil wells nearby 20:19:42 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh too late :P 20:19:48 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> sawmill is fine too 20:20:34 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> yay, first goal is 2/3 :) 20:21:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> walk the station to collect goods? 20:21:18 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth has no shame :) 20:21:29 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> just make sure that the station signs of the delivery stations touch the nidustries 20:21:35 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so they actually get it 20:21:47 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> goods pickup you can walk 20:21:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> build the sawmill near the factories? 20:21:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or other side of town? 20:21:55 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> but there is no much point in walking tram stops 20:22:01 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> is there? 20:22:23 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> be careful on the other side of the town 20:22:30 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the other town already starts there 20:22:40 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> heh 20:22:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> build on the flat land near existing then 20:22:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll do it :P 20:22:55 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> that additional factory is a good idea :P 20:22:55 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the industries have to belong to our town, else it is wasted money :) 20:23:18 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> ok, first goal is complete 20:23:25 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> now only the other two :) 20:24:21 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> we are probably going to need more wood to reach 100 crates of good 20:25:12 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll do forests 20:32:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> these steel trains are crappy 20:32:53 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth fixes 20:36:29 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so now only double the throughput in two years 20:38:52 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> easy, just improve the goods transport 20:40:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have no electric trains? 20:40:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but we have electrifed rail? 20:40:18 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> sure we have electic trains 20:40:28 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> but the network is a mess 20:40:32 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so don't build any :p 20:42:28 <Alberth> sorry :) 20:42:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's fun that the drive side switches :P 20:48:03 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> huh... what are those icons at the left of each town name at the town list window? 20:48:12 <Alberth> :) 20:48:18 <Alberth> how much they like us 20:48:22 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> oh, old opengfx probably 20:48:28 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I only get ? icons 20:48:31 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> :P 20:48:41 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> nice feature :) 20:48:55 <Alberth> you didn't read the red error box? :p 20:49:15 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I did, but it took me a while to realize that those icons were placeholders :P 20:50:33 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> so, the game is pretty much won, isn't it? 20:50:47 <Alberth> no idea, I just watch trains :) 20:50:50 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> are you sure? 20:51:00 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we have only 60% of cargo 20:51:02 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> well, we need to transport 40% more goods in 1 year 20:51:20 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it's goods per quarter 20:51:20 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> or actually... 70% more 20:51:22 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> not goods in game time 20:52:31 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> the 5000 crates goal might be a bit short at the end, yes 20:52:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> have faith :P 20:52:57 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> in wood we trust 20:58:31 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> oh, time for me todo something 21:01:58 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> it looks a bit grim :P 21:03:25 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> wow 21:03:28 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> how lucky :p 21:03:31 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> and early 21:03:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> \o/ 21:03:39 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> the script said 1975 21:03:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that was fun 21:03:47 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> read the news! 21:03:57 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I have an information popup 21:04:05 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> Terkh3n: it says "until 1975" 21:04:11 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> ooooh 21:04:11 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> you can win earlier 21:04:13 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> that makes sense 21:04:19 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> and if the date passes, you get more time for silver resp. bronze 21:04:21 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> nice, it makes a news item too :D 21:04:27 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> this is fun :P 21:04:37 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> Terkh3n: you should also start a enw company to read the intro text :) 21:04:44 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i am proud about that one :p 21:04:46 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> where can I pickup my gold medal? 21:04:48 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> this is a mess ;) 21:04:50 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> let's see 21:04:56 <Nachtigall> *** Terkh3n has joined spectators 21:04:58 <Nachtigall> *** Terkh3n has started a new company (#3) 21:05:13 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> heh 21:05:15 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> awesome 21:05:30 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> depending on the cargo type you get, it becomes hillarious :) 21:05:36 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> I got steel :P 21:05:46 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fr0sch: nice GS :) 21:05:50 <Nachtigall> <Terkh3n> indeed :) 21:05:52 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> thanks :) 21:05:54 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined spectators 21:05:58 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has started a new company (#4) 21:06:12 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> valuables :) 21:06:14 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined spectators 21:06:16 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has started a new company (#5) 21:06:20 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> really? 21:06:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> really 21:06:26 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> they should have been filteres out 21:06:35 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> they are no proper secondary cargo 21:06:43 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined spectators 21:06:43 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium has left the game (leaving) 21:06:45 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has started a new company (#6) 21:06:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> steel :P 21:07:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> this needs a stripped down version of FIRS 21:07:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 16 cargos or so 21:07:34 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> when you start a game with firs, it dumps the cargo classification into the gs debug window 21:07:49 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> for firs it has a big selectio of secondary cargos :) 21:07:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> probably too many 21:08:03 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it picks one :p 21:08:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> probably very hard 21:08:11 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> you can adjust the goal 21:08:16 <Terkhen> good night :) 21:08:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I can't think of improvements to this 21:08:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> except that I would like to have finished 30 mins ago :) 21:08:30 <Nachtigall> *** Terkh3n has left the game (leaving) 21:08:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and the beginning is a bit annoying due to lack of money 21:08:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bigger loan 21:09:00 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> shorter game? 21:09:12 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> short game is hard due to funding industries 21:09:26 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> but bigger loan might make it shorter 21:09:26 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> yes 21:09:40 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined spectators 21:09:40 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:09:44 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 21:09:44 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:10:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> q 21:10:04 <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has left the game (leaving) 21:10:04 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:10:06 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 21:10:12 <andythenorth> frosch123: good night 21:10:19 <frosch123> night 21:10:21 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.nightly 21:14:01 <Nachtigall> *** alberth has left the game (leaving) 21:18:54 <Alberth> it was a fun game, but the first part is so frustrating, waiting for money 21:21:13 <frosch123> i need some way to distinguish bank-style industries :s 21:21:25 <frosch123> and it looks like it needs an api addition :o 21:39:35 <Alberth> what's bad about banks? 21:40:03 <Alberth> you cannot read the industry placement flags? (>1200 inhabitants requirement) 21:44:18 <Alberth> good night 21:44:56 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.nightly 21:54:38 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 21:54:42 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 22:03:41 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:37:18 *** Zuu has quit IRC