Log for #openttdcoop.nightly on 16th November 2012:
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19:15:40  <Alberth> revision?
19:16:36  <planetmaker> !revision
19:16:36  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Game version is r24719
19:16:43  <planetmaker> but I'd update to last nightly
19:16:46  <planetmaker> !update
19:16:46  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Update starting...
19:16:49  <planetmaker> :-)
19:17:03  <planetmaker> 24751
19:17:06  <Alberth> oh, we have a useful /topic here nowadays
19:17:15  <planetmaker> topic updates itself
19:17:20  <planetmaker> and there's always !revision
19:17:39  * Alberth pats /topic
19:17:53  <Alberth> right, let's build a new program
19:18:00  <planetmaker> new program?
19:18:54  <Alberth> yeah, program 24751
19:19:34  <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r24751
19:22:59  <planetmaker> !content
19:22:59  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Connection established
19:22:59  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
19:22:59  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Nothing to download
19:23:05  <planetmaker> !content
19:23:07  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered!
19:23:07  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Downloading 6 file(s) (195054 bytes)
19:24:00  <planetmaker> !download lin64
19:24:00  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 2370
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 2371
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 606
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 970
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 1025
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 2368
19:24:06  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] All 6 downloaded
19:24:08  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
19:26:37  <andythenorth> so 24751?  or 24719?
19:26:41  <planetmaker> 24751
19:26:56  <andythenorth> meh, latest build on is 24752
19:26:57  <planetmaker> I wonder why it wasn't updated properly
19:27:03  <planetmaker> yes. that's today
19:27:09  <andythenorth> :)
19:27:13  <planetmaker> I guess I could update again for that
19:27:28  <andythenorth> I don't mind, I just can't figure out the path on binaries server ;)
19:27:38  <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r24752
19:27:51  <planetmaker> ups... I only wanted to update the download link...
19:28:12  <planetmaker> I guess... todays nightly, Alberth , r24752. Sorry
19:28:23  <planetmaker> !update
19:28:23  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Update starting...
19:28:25  <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r24752
19:28:32  <planetmaker> !download
19:28:34  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
19:28:38  <planetmaker> !download lin64
19:28:38  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
19:28:40  <planetmaker> hm
19:29:53  <Alberth> 51 -> 52 update is quick, just a few translation files :)
19:31:30  <Zuu> Which goal should we use?
19:32:03  <andythenorth> which GS?  Or which settings?
19:32:11  <Zuu> Which settings
19:32:16  <planetmaker> which are our options? nocargoal, silicon valley, important neighbours,... ?
19:32:29  <andythenorth> +1 for NCG
19:32:35  <andythenorth> how many players?
19:32:37  <andythenorth> V453000: you in?
19:33:03  <andythenorth> I think it's about 10k per player on 7 years
19:33:09  <andythenorth> assuming NUTS
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19:33:28  <andythenorth> we failed gold on last game with 3 players by about 200t or so :P
19:33:37  <andythenorth> if I hadn't been eating dinner for 20 mins, would have made it ;P
19:33:45  <Zuu> at 12500 on 7 years?
19:33:57  <peter1138> so what's the shiz
19:34:31  <andythenorth> Zuu: 12.5k per cargo?
19:34:37  <Zuu> Yep
19:34:40  <andythenorth> try it
19:34:47  <andythenorth> I've never got gold before :P
19:34:48  <Zuu> That is the default settings
19:34:49  <andythenorth> maybe we can
19:35:33  <planetmaker> !restart
19:35:33  <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
19:35:45  <Zuu> No other bids?
19:35:58  <andythenorth> Zuu: set low costs?
19:36:01  <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
19:36:01  <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r24719.
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19:36:13  <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged
19:36:13  <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server'
19:36:14  *** Webster changes topic to " | r24719 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>"
19:36:14  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nachtigall
19:36:18  <andythenorth> Zuu: I don't know what frosch sets, but cheap vehicles and cheap industry funding :P
19:37:13  <planetmaker> !ip
19:37:20  <planetmaker> !url
19:37:20  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
19:37:22  <planetmaker> !ip
19:37:37  <Alberth> no intellectual proprties :)
19:38:00  <planetmaker> :D
19:38:15  <planetmaker> hm... server still runs 24719. why ever... going to fix it manually
19:38:18  <planetmaker> !exit
19:38:28  <Nachtigall> Server closed down by admin
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19:39:45  <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged
19:39:45  <Nachtigall> Starting new game: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server'
19:39:45  <Nachtigall> Landscape: temperate
19:39:45  <Nachtigall> Dimensions: 256x256
19:39:45  <Nachtigall> Starting year: 1950
19:39:45  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nachtigall
19:39:46  *** Webster changes topic to " | r24752 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>"
19:39:52  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
19:39:56  <planetmaker> there we go
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19:40:27  <peter1138> gosh, it's green!
19:40:33  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:41:31  <planetmaker> we still need the map :-)
19:41:53  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> isn't this a map?
19:42:22  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:42:26  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> ho :-)
19:42:28  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it seems a bit goalless though
19:42:39  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> yes. We don't yet have the / a map
19:42:51  <andythenorth> Zuu is making it
19:43:01  <planetmaker> wonderful :-)
19:43:09  <Zuu> I only need to upload it now.
19:43:30  <planetmaker> just anywhere ... !getsave URL
19:43:41  <planetmaker> where wget works :-)
19:43:55  <planetmaker> !dl lin64
19:43:55  <Nachtigall> planetmaker:
19:45:22  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it doesn't seem to work
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19:45:56  <planetmaker> what doesn't work, rubi?
19:46:14  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> my !getsave command
19:46:25  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> ah yes, only from IRC
19:46:44  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> argh... could you load that save for fun please?
19:46:52  <planetmaker> sure
19:46:53  <Zuu> !getsave
19:46:53  <Nachtigall> Zuu: OK :-)
19:46:59  <Ammler> planetmaker: hard to read topic?
19:47:08  <Ammler> but I should add "run !install" :-)
19:47:17  <Ammler> !install
19:47:20  <Nachtigall> Ammler: install done, please run !restart
19:48:02  <planetmaker> !getsave
19:48:02  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: OK :-)
19:48:07  <planetmaker> !rcon pwd
19:48:07  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: /home/ottdc/svn-nightly/autopilot/save/
19:48:11  <planetmaker> !rcon cd uploads
19:48:14  <planetmaker> !rcon ls
19:48:14  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 0) .. (Parent directory)
19:48:14  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 1) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
19:48:14  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 2) test.sav
19:48:14  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 3) nocargoal20121113.sav
19:48:14  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 4) nocargoal20121111.sav
19:48:14  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 11 more messages
19:48:20  <planetmaker> !rcon load 2
19:48:22  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:48:24  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:48:31  <planetmaker> just for fun before start :-) On rubi's request
19:48:33  <andythenorth> mm
19:48:35  <andythenorth> curry
19:48:40  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:48:44  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> title game suggestion !
19:49:03  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> right rubi?
19:49:05  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving)
19:49:11  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> yup
19:49:22  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it's  quite heavily timetabled ;)
19:49:52  <Ammler> !update
19:49:52  <Nachtigall> Ammler: Update starting...
19:49:54  <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r24752 (run !install)
19:49:59  <Ammler> better? :-)
19:50:17  <planetmaker> yup :-) ty, Ammler. And how should I know about this change?
19:50:23  <Ammler> topic
19:50:30  <planetmaker> the topic is not instructive. Just a summary of available commands to me
19:50:35  <planetmaker> not a sequence
19:50:42  <planetmaker> which it might be. But how should I know?
19:51:05  <planetmaker> ok, real game? Ready for it?
19:51:17  <planetmaker> !rcon load 1
19:51:19  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
19:51:27  <Ammler> true, well now you do, someone should add it to the admin wiki
19:51:38  <peter1138> server is restarting, please wiat
19:51:43  <peter1138> what devilry is this!
19:51:44  <planetmaker> I got the same
19:51:49  <planetmaker> Just wondering, too
19:51:55  <Ammler> but I doubt you read there :-P
19:52:07  <planetmaker> oh. I guess we miss newgrfs, peter. maybe
19:52:18  <planetmaker> and thus can't re-join as we normally would
19:52:23  <peter1138> yeah
19:52:24  <planetmaker> smells fishy this behaviour
19:52:31  <peter1138> the error message is behind the please wait message. nice.
19:52:33  <planetmaker> ah, yes
19:52:33  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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19:52:35  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:52:50  <peter1138> that's 1 bug found ;)
19:53:00  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:53:03  <planetmaker> see. testing :-)
19:53:09  <peter1138> missing... stuff...
19:53:27  <peter1138> uh
19:53:33  <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu joined the game
19:53:36  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> maybe pause the game
19:53:39  <andythenorth> peter1138: this?
19:53:44  <peter1138> basic platforms, brick freight, container freight, us stations & *ahem* uk waypoints
19:53:45  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so we can see what we want to do and such
19:53:46  <planetmaker> andythenorth, the fence code is buggy
19:53:48  <Zuu> !pause
19:53:48  <Nachtigall> *** Zuu has paused the server.
19:53:49  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
19:53:51  <planetmaker> in FIRS
19:54:04  <andythenorth> planetmaker: there are totally bugged sprites somewhere
19:54:08  <peter1138> uk payments. i remember who coded that...
19:54:10  <andythenorth> I haven't figured where yet
19:54:11  <planetmaker> andythenorth, yes. that's them
19:54:14  <planetmaker> fences
19:54:23  <andythenorth> I somehow broke old code
19:54:25  <Zuu> peter1138: openttdcoop grf pack
19:54:30  <andythenorth> I don't recall touching it though :P
19:54:33  <planetmaker> !grf
19:54:33  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: (Version 8.0)
19:54:37  <planetmaker> ^^ peter1138
19:54:44  <peter1138> i thought everybody stuck to banananananananananas grfs these days :S
19:54:49  <Zuu> OpenTTD should show a flag in the newgrf list on content that is available on bananas. :-)
19:55:11  <planetmaker> Zuu, it kinda does... after you updated
19:55:23  <Zuu> Without that its hard to know what in your long list of newgrfs is on bananas and not.
19:55:40  <planetmaker> Zuu, but you update. and check again. And then you know all missing is non-bananas
19:55:45  <andythenorth> I should draw a banana icon? :P
19:55:48  <Ammler> doesn't it show the path anymore?
19:56:05  <Alberth> not if you don't have the newgrf :p
19:56:07  <Zuu> planetmaker: I mean from the POV when deciding which NewGRFs to include in a game.
19:56:18  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I'll do the petrol thing
19:56:20  <planetmaker> Zuu, oh, I see. Yes, that makes a lot of sense
19:56:56  <Ammler> the file path was good sign to know it
19:57:01  <peter1138> ouch
19:57:04  <peter1138> that pack contains:
19:57:10  <peter1138> jpset_trew.GRF (64KB)
19:57:12  <planetmaker> I'll start with wheat then, I guess (or grain)
19:57:17  <peter1138> jpset_trew.grf (106KB)
19:57:22  <peter1138> in the same dir
19:57:28  <planetmaker> nice :-)
19:57:47  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:57:51  <Nachtigall> <peter1138> \o/
19:57:55  <Ammler> how do windows user handle that?
19:58:09  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:58:09  <peter1138> you either overwrite or ignore
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19:58:18  <planetmaker> so... we have no specific town we need to focus on. Just much cargo, right?
19:58:30  <andythenorth> hmm
19:58:35  <andythenorth> petrol, grain, goods
19:58:46  <andythenorth> none of those are complementary :)
19:58:48  <andythenorth> harder :P
19:59:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> where is the moneymaker?
19:59:21  <Ammler> !help
20:00:46  <peter1138> hmm
20:00:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> from Målfors to Brynhammar
20:00:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ?
20:01:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 3 oil wells
20:01:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> petrol will be hard :O
20:01:30  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I'm ready for making the oil/petrol one
20:01:38  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it'll be done in time, I know it
20:01:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> goods is way easy
20:02:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> everything makes goods :P
20:02:12  <Nachtigall> <peter1138> ok, so i guess i just realised you're playing a coop game
20:02:12  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Though some plan to get off the ground is good. If that can be combined with petrol goal that is perhaps good.
20:02:14  <Nachtigall> <peter1138> pom te pom
20:02:16  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> with previous one we hit 30k with 3 oil wells well before the final time
20:02:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> peter1138: play on your own :)
20:02:46  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> move all grain to "central grain mill"?
20:02:47  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> just unpause and I'll start building the oil one
20:02:57  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planetm4ker: only centralise if it's convenient
20:02:59  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I know what and how I want to do it
20:03:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> otherwise go for shortest haul
20:03:07  <planetmaker> it is, I think in this case
20:03:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> shorter = faster delivery
20:03:18  <Nachtigall> *** peter1138 has started a new company (#2)
20:03:18  <planetmaker> we still need the money, andythenorth
20:03:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> central often = train jam
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20:03:33  <planetmaker> not with coop build style ;-)
20:03:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho
20:03:45  <Zuu> Shall I unpause?
20:03:47  <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 1
20:03:47  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: ‎[All] andythen0rth: I've seen 200 jammed maglevs :P
20:03:48  <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
20:03:55  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> there we go
20:04:05  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> perhaps not then :-)
20:04:15  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1
20:04:23  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> money money money
20:04:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> someone doing pax?
20:04:48  <Alberth> andythenorth: what firs do I need?
20:04:54  <andythenorth> Alberth:
20:05:07  <Alberth> thanks
20:05:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> old heqs :)
20:06:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> has a bug
20:06:28  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> which engine?
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20:06:55  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we've been using whatever with NUTS
20:07:18  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I could start with PAX, if there is room for it in our budget
20:07:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> you should
20:07:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need money maker, pax is good
20:07:58  <V453000> !dl win64
20:07:58  <Nachtigall> V453000:
20:08:05  <Nachtigall> * planetm4ker built the first grain connection
20:08:15  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> feel free to build a pax MM
20:08:25  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Im doing pax now
20:08:30  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> from "pax"
20:08:32  <Nachtigall> <V453000> o/
20:08:32  <Nachtigall> *** V453000 joined the game
20:09:16  <Nachtigall> <V453000> andy you should try nuts like 2000+ that is more fun :P
20:09:38  <Nachtigall> <V453000> for a short-term game that is :)
20:17:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> money money
20:21:50  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I guess I need 12k for a train
20:22:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> k
20:22:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there's some :)
20:22:25  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> done
20:22:27  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> ty
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20:39:34  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> 90° turns on?!
20:39:59  <Nachtigall> <peter1138> apparently o_O
20:49:31  <Ammler> run !setdef after loading
20:54:19  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> outch
20:54:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops
20:54:43  <Nachtigall> *** peter1138 has left the game (leaving)
20:54:49  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> oil will be very difficult
20:55:21  <Alberth> build a new oil well?
20:55:31  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> 1/4 of our money. Shall I build one?
20:55:33  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> can afford
20:55:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> build several :P
20:55:45  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> prospecting...
20:55:47  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I halved the industry contstruction costs
20:56:21  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> it's prospect though :(
20:56:41  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> someone already connecting Strömarp oil wells?
20:56:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup
20:56:58  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I'll get us another
20:57:54  <Alberth> servicing switched on?
20:58:19  <planetmaker> seems like. I feel like calling !setdef
20:58:26  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> though why are the ratings of the stations so much lower than last time?
20:58:36  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Are my settings too broken? :-p
20:58:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> default station algo
20:59:36  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that explains why the oil chain doesn't have enough to chain up to gun-ho (or whatever)
21:00:08  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> and why production isn't around 100-150% higher
21:00:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> also no planes for supplies :)
21:02:05  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> try another prospect
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21:09:06  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we're so not winning :)
21:13:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh we got bronze :)
21:13:56  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> and there's a bug in the GS
21:14:02  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Yeah, and I built us a HQ
21:14:18  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we have ~290 days to go in 1955 and it says: can you get to silver before 1957
21:14:28  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we will barely make 1956
21:14:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we got killed :P
21:15:38  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The game will end at the beginning of 1957
21:15:52  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> The news is hower wrong
21:16:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> obiwan
21:16:26  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> It probably switch news message type too early or so.
21:26:13  <Nachtigall> <V453000> holy shit you have Train reversing: At end of line only in Difficulty settings
21:26:15  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
21:26:53  <planetmaker> may I set our "normal" settings? reverse in stations, no 90°, no servicing, if not needed?
21:27:12  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> if you like to
21:27:26  <Nachtigall> <V453000> not my call but I suggest to :)
21:30:11  <planetmaker> lool. 2nd gen tanker wagon. Default cargo: livestock
21:30:19  <V453000> that is likely :)
21:30:33  <planetmaker> probably like fishoil
21:30:39  <Nachtigall> <V453000> no, just fish
21:30:42  <Nachtigall> <V453000> try :)
21:31:04  <Nachtigall> <V453000> holy shit this is like drunk
21:31:10  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> w
21:31:10  <Nachtigall> <V453000> clay pits are glowing
21:31:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o
21:31:15  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> who is actually still building?
21:31:15  <Nachtigall> <V453000> white/blakc colour in map window
21:31:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh that
21:31:21  <Nachtigall> <V453000> wow :D
21:31:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frosh did that
21:31:34  <Nachtigall> <V453000> ohhh
21:31:34  <Alberth> move the mouse away from the industry legend :)
21:31:36  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I see now
21:31:39  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :D
21:31:42  <Nachtigall> <V453000> industries on drugs
21:32:13  <Nachtigall> <V453000> hm no livestock here?
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21:32:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no livestock in basic economy
21:32:40  <planetmaker> there's lifestock. or vehicles would not offer it
21:32:46  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I see ... there still are vagons refittable for it :D
21:32:55  <planetmaker> hm
21:32:56  <Nachtigall> <V453000> but there are no industries that would produce it
21:33:14  <Nachtigall> <V453000> but I 100% agree that it would make more sense to make default cargo oil
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21:33:44  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> or cola. or milk. or water. or chemicals
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21:33:52  <Nachtigall> <V453000> fishies :>
21:34:06  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oil is best, oil is in all climates except toyland
21:34:20  <Nachtigall> <V453000> in toyland it is probably cola; could be beer or plastic too, not sure
21:34:26  <Nachtigall> <Strontium> no, we can't reach gold before 1957!...
21:34:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> \o/
21:34:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho
21:34:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we had  more players too :P
21:34:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> goods is hard :P
21:36:33  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> V45, what doe the numbers with engines and wagons mean?
21:37:12  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I would suggest that the numbers are the generation of an engine
21:37:22  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> And the color is the category
21:37:48  <Nachtigall> <V453000> planetm4ker: their rank in the class
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21:37:56  <Nachtigall> <V453000> with the years you get higher ranks of trains
21:38:03  <Nachtigall> <V453000> in 1920 you start with rank 1 in each class
21:38:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> silver :)
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21:38:21  <Nachtigall> <V453000> higher rank almost always means it is a better vehicle than its precedessor
21:38:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we had no strategy for goods :P
21:38:27  <planetmaker> nice. How do you make them there, V453000 ?
21:38:29  <Nachtigall> <V453000> therefore all trains are useful
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21:38:38  <planetmaker> part of the name?
21:38:40  <Nachtigall> <V453000> just purchase menu sprites pm
21:38:44  <planetmaker> ah
21:38:58  <planetmaker> of course
21:39:07  <V453000>
21:39:08  <V453000> like that
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21:39:17  <V453000> also to give the "ttdish" || separators
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21:39:46  <V453000> just like Zuu said now I see :) class/generation
21:39:54  <planetmaker> what's the skull?
21:40:02  <planetmaker> bad ass?
21:40:16  <V453000> yeah
21:40:20  <V453000> exceptional engines
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21:40:29  <planetmaker> thank you all for this nice game :-)
21:40:33  <V453000> those are out of the classes, their stats are worse than the normal
21:40:39  <planetmaker> even though we didn't make gold... silver we got :-)
21:40:50  <planetmaker> I see
21:40:53  <V453000> they are usable only because "being special"
21:40:59  <andythenorth> next time...
21:41:05  * andythenorth still hasn't got gold :P
21:41:09  <V453000> like slug, doombringer or the other weird monorail engines
21:41:16  <andythenorth> Zuu: did we playtest the GS ok then?
21:41:17  <andythenorth> :)
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21:41:26  <planetmaker> sorry, I don't really know them... first time today I played with this set
21:41:29  <Zuu> andythenorth: Sure. We found one bug :-)
21:41:39  <V453000> sure :)
21:41:46  <Zuu> Which I think I've fixed locally already.  :-)
21:42:07  <V453000> I guess you noticed that every single cargo available in ECS/FIRS/others has its own colour of wagons, and has drawn sprites for full/empty wagons
21:42:18  <planetmaker> and we found an openttd bug as well with the reconnection and stacked errors
21:42:24  <V453000> so you can distinguish not only full/empty wagons, but also which cargo is in them in either full/empty state
21:42:32  <V453000> wow :d
21:43:00  <planetmaker> I didn't notice the different colour for different empty wagons. But that's good :-)
21:43:27  <V453000> it is, but if you play with firs it is a LOT to remember at the same time :D
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21:44:42  <Alberth> I really like the vehicle set, nice and colourful
21:44:55  <Alberth> I must play with it one day
21:45:48  <V453000> :)
21:46:05  <V453000> honestly you played just the early stages here, maglev is nicest
21:46:09  <V453000> monorail is a lot nicer than rail too
21:46:33  * andythenorth ponders unrealistically fast ships
21:46:38  <andythenorth> to compete with trains :P
21:46:48  <V453000> :DDD
21:46:57  <V453000> Alberth: example of colours :P
21:47:35  <planetmaker> alberth, would another night do for playing as well? ;-)
21:48:05  <V453000> :D
21:48:07  <Alberth> V453000: it fits the landscape very wel :)
21:48:15  <V453000> yes, Mars :)
21:48:22  <V453000> I also think that it fits best there
21:48:40  <Alberth> planetmaker: we had far less money problems it seems, or is it because I joined later?
21:49:13  <V453000> nuts has (ridiculously) low costs as well :)
21:49:17  <planetmaker> Alberth, no, it worked well. Someone built money maker - which is always a good idea
21:49:30  <planetmaker> some early pax connections often work wonders
21:49:45  <Alberth> we should remember that for the next time :p
21:49:58  <V453000> yes, I think pax in FIRS is wayyy too profittable tbh :D
21:50:00  <planetmaker> last time I played we did so, too. Worked also ;-)
21:50:10  <planetmaker> (but it wasn't me who built it this time)
21:50:12  <V453000> on the other hand industries grow like crazy if supplied correctly
21:50:37  <Alberth> V453000: that's no problem, it means you can concentrate on building earlier in the game, instead of waiting for enough money
21:51:00  <V453000> +- :) I just thought the main focus on industries should be best
21:51:07  <V453000> ah you mean the costs
21:51:14  <Alberth> yes
21:51:18  <V453000> well yeah that is the purpose of the low costs :) so you can build all the time right from the start
21:51:41  <andythenorth> what do we think of FIRS 'basic' economy?
21:52:08  <V453000> I even readjusted wagon capacities, because if you start in 1920, the 1st gen wagons werent enough very soon as you had like 100 trains after just a few years
21:52:11  * Alberth mostly did wood :)
21:52:17  * Zuu bulit pax connections
21:52:53  <andythenorth> we were totally screwed by lack of planes
21:52:58  <Alberth> chain forest -> sawmill -> furniture -> good gives a nice challenge
21:53:23  <andythenorth> we needed supplies delivered
21:53:28  * Zuu was too tired to figure out which chains to use to get goods. :-p
21:53:44  <andythenorth> 'basic' lacks easy goods chains
21:53:47  <andythenorth> bit lame
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