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16:35:49 <planetmaker> !update 16:35:49 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Update starting... 16:36:12 <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r25586 (run !install) 16:37:14 <planetmaker> !install 16:37:17 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: install done, please run !restart 16:37:24 <planetmaker> !restart 16:37:24 <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 16:38:02 <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 16:38:02 <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r25581. 16:38:05 <Nachtigall> Server has exited 16:38:05 *** Nachtigall has quit IRC 16:38:15 *** Nachtigall has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 16:38:15 <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged 16:38:15 <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server' 16:38:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nachtigall 16:38:15 *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r25586 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>" 17:10:40 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 17:10:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 17:11:05 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 17:11:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o frosch123 17:11:16 <Alberth> 25586, apparently 17:32:45 <planetmaker> yeah 17:32:48 <planetmaker> !dl lin64 17:32:48 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25586/openttd-trunk-r25586-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 17:35:41 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:35:43 <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth joined the game 17:35:59 <Alberth> !help 17:36:41 <planetmaker> no such command :-) 17:36:50 <planetmaker> and... the map is in preparation 17:40:28 <Alberth> but the bot suggested I try that command :) 17:42:24 <planetmaker> oh :-) 17:42:43 <planetmaker> I also suggest to download last FIRS nightly (r3761) from DevZone's bundle server 17:45:11 <Alberth> hmm, "cp" is not going to work for getting it :p 17:48:00 <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth has left the game (leaving) 18:02:41 <planetmaker> I'll upload both, I think 18:24:50 <planetmaker> !rcon los 18:24:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 18:24:52 <planetmaker> !rcon ls 18:24:53 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:24:53 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 1) autosave/ (Directory) 18:24:53 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 2) uploads/ (Directory) 18:24:53 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 3) nightly-120713-start.sav 18:24:53 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 4) restart.sav 18:24:53 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 8 more messages 18:24:59 <planetmaker> !rcon load 3 18:25:01 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:25:20 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:25:23 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:25:32 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 18:25:38 <planetmaker> !content 18:25:38 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Connection established 18:25:38 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 18:25:38 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Nothing to download 18:26:16 <planetmaker> !content 18:26:18 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered! 18:26:18 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Downloading 1 file(s) (56510 bytes) 18:26:19 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 2755 18:26:19 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] All 1 downloaded 18:26:19 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded) 18:26:28 <planetmaker> !rcon load 3 18:26:31 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:26:38 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:26:41 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:26:46 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 18:27:14 <planetmaker> !rcon load 3 18:27:16 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:28:13 <planetmaker> !restart 18:28:13 <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 18:29:01 <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 18:29:02 <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r25586. 18:29:05 <Nachtigall> Server has exited 18:29:06 *** Nachtigall has quit IRC 18:29:24 *** Nachtigall has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:29:24 <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged 18:29:24 <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server' 18:29:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nachtigall 18:29:24 *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r25586 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>" 18:29:36 <planetmaker> !rcon load 3 18:29:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: players 18:29:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: server_info 18:29:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: clients 18:29:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: echo doneclientcount 18:29:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Current/maximum clients: 0/16 18:29:38 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 4 more messages 18:29:38 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:29:55 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:29:58 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:30:08 <planetmaker> hmpf 18:30:24 <planetmaker> !rcon load 3 18:30:26 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:30:26 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:30:29 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:30:40 <planetmaker> !rcon ls 18:30:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 0) .. (Parent directory) 18:30:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 1) autosave/ (Directory) 18:30:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 2) uploads/ (Directory) 18:30:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 3) restart.sav 18:30:41 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 4) nightly-120713-start.sav 18:30:42 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 8 more messages 18:30:46 <planetmaker> !rcon load 4 18:30:48 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:30:50 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:30:52 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:30:58 <planetmaker> better :-) 18:31:11 <planetmaker> frosch123, Alberth map acceptable? 18:33:39 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/newgrf-nightly.tar.gz <-- newgrfs 18:34:11 <frosch123> firs with broken version detection? 18:35:12 <planetmaker> hm? 18:35:39 <frosch123> oh, the name is too long for the content gui 18:36:43 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:36:44 <Nachtigall> <V453000> uni uni 18:36:44 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 joined the game 18:36:55 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> ui ui V45 :-) 18:37:02 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:37:02 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 joined the game 18:37:06 <Nachtigall> <V453000> uhm 18:37:08 <Nachtigall> <V453000> the farms dont produce anything 18:37:18 <Nachtigall> <V453000> or 18:37:33 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> lol 18:38:10 <frosch123> what's wrong with the farms? i see no issue 18:38:27 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> they produce nothing 18:38:46 <frosch123> oh, plantations 18:39:12 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> "Heart of Darkness". How cruel to us 18:39:13 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:39:16 <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth joined the game 18:40:27 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> :D Sugar refinery makes sugar from manufacturing supplies alone 18:41:15 <frosch123> heh, sugar refinery has only supplies as input? 18:41:24 <frosch123> oh, you just said that :s 18:41:31 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> :-) 18:42:15 <frosch123> welll, looks like we do not need the plantations for the goal 18:42:25 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> yeah.. no sugar cane 18:42:39 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> and... where's our java coffee? 18:43:10 <Alberth> oh, story book has goals :) 18:43:18 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> NoCarGoal 18:43:36 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> 7 years for 3 cargos 25k each transported in summary 18:44:04 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> sugar, alcohol and copper ore 18:44:14 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> that'll be a challange 18:48:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:48:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o andythenorth 18:48:42 <Alberth> it's getting busy around the terminals :p 18:49:27 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:49:30 <andythenorth> r25586? 18:49:41 <^Spike^> pm... what was it... reboot right? ;) 18:49:41 <planetmaker> yes 18:49:53 <planetmaker> and devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/newgrf-nightly.tar.gz 18:49:56 <frosch123> andythenorth: can you fix firs within 10 minutes? :) 18:50:08 <andythenorth> what's the broken? 18:50:19 <andythenorth> and where are the nightlies? I always forget 18:50:20 <frosch123> missing cargo definitons 18:50:23 <frosch123> no "sugar" 18:50:28 <andythenorth> k 18:50:31 <frosch123> but sugar plantation and sugar refinery 18:51:10 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:51:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Rubidium 18:51:15 <andythenorth> hmm 18:51:20 <andythenorth> sugar in the payment rate window 18:51:26 <planetmaker> o/ Rubidium 18:51:26 <andythenorth> maybe wrong label 18:51:37 <planetmaker> farms and refinery don't use sugar 18:51:44 <planetmaker> no. 18:51:49 <planetmaker> farms don't produce sugar cane 18:51:50 <Alberth> something like this andy http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25586/openttd-trunk-r25586-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 18:52:00 <planetmaker> !dl 18:52:01 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 18:52:03 <planetmaker> !dl osx 18:52:03 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25586/openttd-trunk-r25586-macosx-universal.zip 18:52:16 <Rubidium> oh... not nightly 18:52:21 <planetmaker> not? 18:52:28 <planetmaker> oh, not today, yes 18:52:29 <Rubidium> well, old one at least ;) 18:52:30 <andythenorth> ah 18:52:33 <andythenorth> no sugar cane 18:52:35 <planetmaker> I configured it before 18:52:44 <Rubidium> so the oldly it is 18:52:52 <planetmaker> haha :-) 18:53:17 <Rubidium> no pong then ;) 18:54:03 <planetmaker> I can update, if you wish 18:54:13 <planetmaker> !update 18:54:13 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Update starting... 18:54:15 <Rubidium> and then having to recompile again? 18:54:43 <planetmaker> this triggers compilation ;-) 18:55:11 <Rubidium> then I'll rinse'n'repeat 18:55:38 <planetmaker> I'll still need to !install (when done) and !restart 18:56:59 <andythenorth> I'm compiling FIRS 18:57:00 <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r25591 (run !install) 18:57:03 <andythenorth> whistle a tune for 3 mins :P 18:57:28 <planetmaker> you want to test it, Rubidium ? 18:57:35 <planetmaker> then I update server rev 18:58:12 <Rubidium> fine by me 18:58:34 <planetmaker> !install 18:58:37 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: install done, please run !restart 18:58:41 <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth has left the game (leaving) 18:58:45 <planetmaker> right folks... new rev :D 18:58:48 <planetmaker> !restart 18:58:48 <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 18:58:58 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 has left the game (leaving) 18:59:01 <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 18:59:02 <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r25586. 18:59:04 <Nachtigall> Server has exited 18:59:04 *** Nachtigall has quit IRC 18:59:05 <andythenorth> I should buy a faster computer 18:59:09 <andythenorth> for compiling FIRS 18:59:13 *** Nachtigall has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:59:13 <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged 18:59:13 <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server' 18:59:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nachtigall 18:59:13 *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r25591 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>" 19:00:06 <planetmaker> !dl lin64 19:00:06 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25591/openttd-trunk-r25591-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 19:00:26 <Rubidium> !dl source 19:00:26 <Nachtigall> Rubidium: unknown option "source" 19:00:32 <andythenorth> FIRS committed 19:00:33 <Rubidium> tss... 19:00:51 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:00:53 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 joined the game 19:01:16 <andythenorth> no OS X build of that rev? 19:01:57 <Rubidium> there is one 19:02:15 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:02:15 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 19:02:20 <andythenorth> maybe I guessed the path wrong 19:02:26 <planetmaker> !dl osx 19:02:26 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25591/openttd-trunk-r25591-macosx-universal.zip 19:02:28 <planetmaker> easy :-) 19:02:41 <frosch123> planetmaker: update firs? 19:02:43 <Rubidium> should I read that first joiner as firs000? 19:02:58 <frosch123> interesting interpretation 19:03:15 <frosch123> but the grfid is F125 19:03:41 <Rubidium> and nightly-ish landscape and firs? 19:04:01 <frosch123> [20:53] <planetmaker> and devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/newgrf-nightly.tar.gz 19:04:05 <Rubidium> and this search external website sucks... it can't find the missing content 19:04:23 <planetmaker> silly devs. Useless feature 19:04:34 <andythenorth> fixed FIRS just got built 19:05:10 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:05:11 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium joined the game 19:05:16 <planetmaker> pushed, andythenorth ? 19:05:38 <andythenorth> yup 19:06:50 <planetmaker> I'll quickly create an updated map 19:06:56 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 19:09:56 <planetmaker> that's fixed for sugarcane 19:10:50 <planetmaker> !rcon ls 19:10:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 0) .. (Parent directory) 19:10:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 1) autosave/ (Directory) 19:10:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 2) uploads/ (Directory) 19:10:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 3) nightly-120713-start.sav 19:10:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 4) restart.sav 19:10:51 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 8 more messages 19:11:18 <planetmaker> !rcon load 4 19:11:20 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:11:22 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:11:25 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 joined the game 19:11:25 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium joined the game 19:11:43 <frosch123> forgot rescan? 19:11:48 <planetmaker> yes 19:11:55 <planetmaker> !rescan newgrf 19:12:45 <planetmaker> meh... 19:12:59 <planetmaker> how do I tell the server to rescan 19:13:12 <Rubidium> !rcon rescan_newgrf 19:13:12 <frosch123> !rcon rescannewgrf 19:13:15 <Rubidium> ? 19:13:15 <Nachtigall> Rubidium: dbg: [misc] The file 'content_download/newgrf/CHIPS_Station_Set-1.2.0.tar' isn't a valid tar-file 19:13:15 <Nachtigall> Rubidium: dbg: [misc] The file 'content_download/newgrf/xUSSR_Railway_Set-1.0.913Alpha.tar' isn't a valid tar-file 19:13:15 <Nachtigall> Rubidium: say "<Rubidium> ?" 19:13:40 <planetmaker> !rcon load 4 19:13:42 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:13:46 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:13:46 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium joined the game 19:13:48 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 joined the game 19:13:51 <frosch123> still fail 19:13:55 <planetmaker> !restart 19:13:55 <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 19:13:59 <frosch123> i should not be able to join :p 19:14:02 <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 19:14:02 <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r25591. 19:14:05 <frosch123> where's the download? 19:14:06 <Nachtigall> Server has exited 19:14:06 *** Nachtigall has quit IRC 19:14:14 *** Nachtigall has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 19:14:14 <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged 19:14:14 <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server' 19:14:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Nachtigall 19:14:14 *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r25591 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>" 19:14:15 <frosch123> devzone bundles? 19:14:23 <planetmaker> yes 19:14:37 <frosch123> ah. devzone posted a link 19:14:40 <Rubidium> I can still load it 19:14:52 <andythenorth> ach, it thinks I don't have FIRS :P 19:15:04 <planetmaker> !rcon ls 19:15:04 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 0) .. (Parent directory) 19:15:04 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 1) autosave/ (Directory) 19:15:04 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 2) uploads/ (Directory) 19:15:04 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 3) restart.sav 19:15:04 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 4) nightly-120713-start.sav 19:15:04 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 8 more messages 19:15:07 <planetmaker> !rcon load 4 19:15:09 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:15:31 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:15:33 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game 19:15:37 <planetmaker> better 19:15:43 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:15:46 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium joined the game 19:16:08 <planetmaker> but I can swear that "rescan newgrfs" doesn't do a too thorough job 19:16:41 <Rubidium> planetmaker: if you load the "wrong" save, things will go "wrong" 19:16:44 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:16:47 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 joined the game 19:16:58 <planetmaker> nah, I mean when I added the new firs locally. I had to restart, too, to find it 19:17:01 <Rubidium> as first you loaded "restart.sav" and only just recently you loaded "nightly-120713-start.sav" 19:17:41 <planetmaker> and... sugar refinery still doesn't accept sugarcane 19:18:05 <frosch123> oh yeah, interesting industry chain :) 19:18:12 <planetmaker> doesn't matter, though 19:18:16 <frosch123> anyway, let's play food, fish, coffee 19:18:18 <planetmaker> fish, coffee, food 19:18:24 <planetmaker> :-) 19:18:26 <andythenorth> too many FIRS installed here :P 19:18:31 <andythenorth> ok I'm in 19:18:36 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 19:18:39 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth joined the game 19:19:02 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 19:19:18 <Rubidium> does that mean fish -> fishing harbour -> general store to get 2 of the 3? 19:19:21 <andythenorth> ooh 19:19:27 <andythenorth> goals flag and storyboook 19:19:30 <frosch123> arismendi <-> cochabamba? 19:19:48 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I guess so, yes, Rubi 19:19:59 <andythenorth> I hope we have boats :P 19:20:13 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> we do have FISH + sailing boats 19:20:31 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 has joined company #1 19:21:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so...boring PAX strategy to get money? 19:21:25 <planetmaker> V453000, you going to help us win? 19:21:35 <planetmaker> I'd guess so, yes 19:21:54 <Nachtigall> <f123000> whoa, trading post <-> coffee estate, two way transport 19:22:13 <Nachtigall> <f123000> what? why is coffee accepted by the brewery? 19:22:25 <Nachtigall> <f123000> are you distilling coffee into espresso? 19:22:28 <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth joined the game 19:22:46 <planetmaker> it's not accepted by brewery 19:22:53 <planetmaker> fruit... hm... :-) 19:23:03 <Nachtigall> <f123000> oh :s 19:23:09 <Nachtigall> <f123000> fruit from coffee estate? 19:23:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yes :) 19:23:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they grow a bit of fruit too 19:23:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and it amused me 19:23:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Fuerte Olimpio has lots of coffee 19:23:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and trading posts 19:23:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fish -> food 19:24:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> easy right? 19:24:06 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> go ;) 19:24:10 <planetmaker> so... let's go rock? 19:24:13 <planetmaker> !rcon unpause 19:24:13 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (manual) 19:24:18 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth has to eat 19:24:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> build some pax 19:26:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> walk the stations ;P 19:29:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> are we rich yet? 19:29:38 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> hm, did the passenger graphics change? Or is that NUTS? 19:30:00 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> folks, mind that cargodist is enabled. Just saying 19:30:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o 19:30:13 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth is newbie 19:30:31 <Nachtigall> <f123000> doesn't matter as long as there is no network, does it? 19:30:49 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> doesn't 19:30:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> cargodist + NoCarGoal :o 19:30:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :) 19:31:11 <Nachtigall> <f123000> makes supplies easier 19:31:25 <Nachtigall> <f123000> so, likely yay :) 19:31:38 <Alberth> santa elena trading post for coffee? 19:31:39 <Nachtigall> <f123000> we should have played with ogfx+trains to get autorefit :p 19:31:50 <Nachtigall> <f123000> yup, Santa Elena 19:32:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> maxed the loan 19:32:51 <Nachtigall> <f123000> imho two-way tram service with refits at each end for coffee 19:33:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> HEQS doesn't autorefit iirc? 19:33:15 <Nachtigall> <f123000> yeah, with depot 19:33:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> maybe I'm wrong 19:33:21 <planetmaker> should be fine 19:33:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah ok 19:35:43 <V453000> !dl win64 19:35:43 <Nachtigall> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25591/openttd-trunk-r25591-windows-win64.zip 19:35:59 <V453000> no pm I wont play :) 19:36:43 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> you also need to enjoy the newly shaped rivers :-P 19:36:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they are much better 19:38:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no small airport 19:38:40 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> no more, I guess. 1970 19:38:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> one day...new airport 19:39:22 <V453000> is the evul firs somewhere? 19:40:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> is anyone distributing FS from Oruro Plantation? 19:41:13 <Alberth> FS? 19:41:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> farm supplies 19:41:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am dropping some off there 19:41:32 <Alberth> not me 19:41:35 <V453000> where can I get the latest first? 19:41:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but I can't see any distribution 19:41:42 <V453000> or, the one on the server 19:41:53 <Alberth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3762/ 19:42:13 <V453000> o_O I thought I just got 61 out of that :D thanks though 19:42:49 <Alberth> you did probably, this one is still very warm :) 19:43:00 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 joined the game 19:43:02 <V453000> I know 19:43:06 <Nachtigall> <V453000> mu 19:44:45 <Nachtigall> <V453000> whats coffee considered, piece cargo? 19:45:13 <andythenorth> piece 19:45:32 <frosch123> sadly not liquid :p 19:45:38 <Nachtigall> <V453000> shall be bulk naow 19:46:00 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> money is running out... 19:46:16 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> or rather... we're fast in spending it 19:47:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> can we backload the coffee trains with farm supplies? 19:47:49 <Alberth> no idea 19:47:49 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> yes. I do that. Use universal wagon and depot refit 19:47:53 <Nachtigall> <f123000> i am configuring the trams for that 19:48:03 <Nachtigall> <f123000> refit trams on both ends :) 19:49:58 <planetmaker> I do that with the trains on Campo Grande Valley Station 19:51:12 <Nachtigall> <V453000> well duh 19:51:16 <Nachtigall> <V453000> need a new colour for hoppers 19:51:22 <Nachtigall> <V453000> first uses all of them already :D 19:51:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :) 19:51:32 <Nachtigall> <V453000> -t 19:52:00 <Nachtigall> <V453000> I guess whitey hoppers could be nice enough 19:53:22 <Nachtigall> <V453000> gute nacht for now though 19:53:25 <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:53:31 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> g'night, V 19:53:45 <V453000> bai :) 19:54:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> moar coffee 19:55:58 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> plane speed factor is making for very slow helicopters :) 19:57:53 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> the air route is overloaded 19:58:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am going to build a train 19:58:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh wrong air route sorry 20:00:27 <Nachtigall> <f123000> is there any supply servicing at oruro? 20:01:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I don't think so 20:01:21 <Nachtigall> <f123000> i am fixing the trams there 20:01:27 <Nachtigall> <f123000> someone needs to fix the train 20:01:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> am delivering 20:01:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll do it 20:01:42 <Alberth> just add supplies trams? 20:01:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they'll block the station 20:02:11 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> coffee's going to be difficult. But I made industries dirt cheap 20:02:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no autorefit in NUTS? 20:06:03 <planetmaker> no 20:06:13 <planetmaker> or? 20:07:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> woah 20:07:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> craploads of coffee in the north 20:07:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> near Campo Grande 20:07:47 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> that's going to get transported. Just somewhat in waves 20:07:53 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> didn't yet setup time table 20:07:56 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> nor full load 20:08:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> needs more trams 20:08:28 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> not really. Maybe trams 20:08:32 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I didn't tend trams 20:08:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> doing it 20:09:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm 20:09:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> orders are confusing for tram 20 20:09:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oic 20:09:49 <Nachtigall> <f123000> they are the same for all trams 20:09:52 <Nachtigall> <f123000> on both sides of the lake 20:10:02 <Nachtigall> <f123000> coffee in one direction, farm supplies in the other 20:10:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they got built refitted to fmsp 20:10:15 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> that's orders with depot refit 20:10:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but then got stuck trying to full load coffee :) 20:10:31 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> he :-) 20:10:45 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> initial condition didn't match. otherwise fine 20:10:51 <Nachtigall> <f123000> hmm, i miscloned 20:11:10 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> first order possibly should be depot visit and proper refit 20:11:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's such fun clicking 'skip' 20:11:40 <Nachtigall> <f123000> select last order and ctrl+click skip 20:12:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nice 20:12:30 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> fish are intelligent. They're only there where there are no oil rigs 20:12:58 <Nachtigall> <f123000> someone broke the trains 20:13:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> whic? 20:13:05 <Nachtigall> <f123000> by removing the refit depot 20:13:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frick sorry 20:13:10 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> all 20:13:20 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> oh... sorry 20:13:26 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> my context was wrong 20:14:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> roro station? 20:14:15 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> hm... coffee estates... are expensive :S 20:14:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 1.2? 20:14:31 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> only? Even! :P 20:16:58 <Nachtigall> <f123000> roro makes no sense with refit 20:17:08 <Nachtigall> <f123000> or only half 20:17:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> aa 20:17:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 50% faster no? 20:17:31 <Nachtigall> <f123000> just add more platforms 20:17:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> blocks 50% of the time :)D 20:17:40 <Nachtigall> <f123000> put depots on one side of them 20:17:48 <Nachtigall> <f123000> they are goto nearest depot anyway now 20:17:58 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh neat 20:18:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> let's change it then 20:20:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> food? 20:20:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho 20:20:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> what are these rocks in the lake at Iquitos? 20:24:49 <Nachtigall> <f123000> they are called "rocky land" 20:24:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> new stuff :P 20:24:58 <Nachtigall> <f123000> though it's not quite rocky 20:25:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> where's the old, non-feature ottd I am used to :( 20:25:23 <planetmaker> I made that into opengfx+landscape when i was bored 20:25:26 <Nachtigall> <f123000> err, not quite landy, i meant 20:25:41 <planetmaker> simple NewObject 20:26:46 <planetmaker> but requires nightly to work properly :-P 20:27:01 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> we won Bronze! 20:27:03 <Nachtigall> <f123000> what nightly feature does it need? 20:27:17 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> shore_sprite_offset 20:27:23 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> or however that is called 20:28:29 <Nachtigall> <f123000> i think the goals on the second story book page should line wrap 20:28:37 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> agreed 20:28:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I think it should show we got a medal :P 20:29:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> story book overlaps with flag page a bit imho 20:29:33 <Nachtigall> <f123000> that's up to the script 20:29:47 <Nachtigall> <f123000> zuu added it mostly for testing afaik :) 20:29:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> k 20:29:55 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> lovely... 27 557 tons of food to transport ;) 20:30:14 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> those 'murican are going to like that ;) 20:30:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how do you see the amount on the map? 20:30:39 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> nah, it's the goal amount 20:30:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ok 20:30:53 <Alberth> trams are quite stuck 20:30:59 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> in imperial short tons 20:30:59 <Nachtigall> <f123000> weird units? :) 20:31:01 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> don't need them anyway 20:31:03 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> instead of metric tonnes 20:32:10 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> sending more ships to load cargo to go to a dock the cargo doesn't want to go to doesn't help 20:32:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> cargodist is tricky :P 20:32:46 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> who keeps building those hovercrafts? 20:32:53 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> there are like a million waiting there already 20:32:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there are enough by now surely? 20:33:19 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> oh, good idea... lets build even more 20:33:29 <Nachtigall> <f123000> who built a canal? and where? 20:33:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they do bring back mnsp 20:34:14 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: lovely they bring that back, but not when they're full loading at the fish market 20:34:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> agreed 20:34:39 <Nachtigall> <f123000> hmm, oh i guess the statistics shows water depots 20:34:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> will we win? 20:34:55 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I guess I made our goal too easy :-( 20:35:05 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> nah, we're too good ;) 20:35:05 <Nachtigall> <f123000> yeah, i wonder 20:35:15 <Nachtigall> <f123000> did cargodist make supplies so easy 20:35:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> totally depends on the number of players with NoCarGoal 20:35:19 <Nachtigall> <f123000> or is the economy so easy? 20:35:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 1 fewer, this would be hard 20:35:25 <Nachtigall> <f123000> we have no supply chains 20:35:32 <Nachtigall> <f123000> only like 4 industry types 20:35:34 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I think we were a bit lucky with what we got 20:35:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's pretty much export only this economy 20:35:46 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> coffee -> food -> win 20:35:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> anything -> ports -> win 20:36:16 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> congratulations :-) 20:36:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it would be a hard economy for SV or a town growth script 20:36:24 <Nachtigall> <f123000> he, 81 ships even 20:36:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so that was fun 20:36:54 <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> we're rather a shipping company than a rail one :-) 20:37:00 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> dunno how many more times I can play NoCarGoal though :) 20:37:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wearing it out 20:37:45 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so we're a Transport Tycoon instead of a Train Tycoon? 20:37:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh we repaid our loan :) 20:38:04 <Alberth> yeah, it seemed not needed any more :) 20:38:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I sold our only helicopter :( 20:38:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we had all other types I think 20:38:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> helicopter was obsenely slow 20:39:19 <andythenorth> so a FIRS bug was found and fixed,thanks 20:39:32 <Alberth> thanks for fixing :) 20:40:21 <planetmaker> thanks for fixing that quickly indeed. Fun game :-) 20:40:23 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> a ship depot counts as 4 water tiles... hope the costs of water tiles aren't very high then 20:40:29 <planetmaker> And I still think an interesting economy 20:40:43 <planetmaker> has its own distinct flair. Not hard. But nice 20:40:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we didn't really explore it all 20:40:55 <planetmaker> yes. We might now :-P 20:40:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> need some kind of alternate cargo goal 20:41:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more cargos or such 20:41:05 <planetmaker> we have time ;-) 20:41:35 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium has left the game (leaving) 20:41:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> improved rivers are improved 20:42:04 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving) 20:42:29 <planetmaker> today I browsed through wesnoth graphics... maybe I can borrow some there.... trees and terrain 20:42:59 <planetmaker> they look tasty and usable in parts 20:44:18 <andythenorth> I need to do the graphics for the different ports 20:44:23 <andythenorth> everything is same-same right now 20:44:46 <planetmaker> yes... but doing so with a bit detail might already do the trick 20:45:02 <planetmaker> maybe a fishing boat there. An overseas trader in the other 20:45:14 <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth has left the game (leaving) 20:45:14 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:45:46 <Nachtigall> *** f123000 has left the game (leaving) 20:45:50 <planetmaker> !rcon save firs_end 20:45:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Saving map... 20:45:50 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to firs_end.sav 20:45:56 <planetmaker> !rcon unpause 20:45:56 <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Game cannot be unpaused manually; disable pause_on_join/min_active_clients. 20:46:04 <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 1 20:46:06 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:46:43 <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 4 20:46:43 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:46:59 <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 1 20:46:59 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:47:36 <planetmaker> !rcon set min_active_clients 4 20:47:36 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:47:59 <andythenorth> frosch123: did you update stats page? o_O 20:48:09 <planetmaker> I'm doing so 20:48:42 <frosch123> planetmaker: thanks :) 20:53:57 <planetmaker> there now 20:54:29 <planetmaker> he, we played on smaller map. And first time that ships were important 20:54:57 <frosch123> i think ships were also important for the other "fish" game 20:55:51 <planetmaker> I wonder... sensible to attach savegame? 20:56:14 <frosch123> i have various 20:56:37 <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 20:56:39 <frosch123> game from 2013-02-01 has 112 ships, 97 rv, 32 trains, 7 aircraft 20:57:10 <planetmaker> :-) thus similar distribution of vehicle types 20:57:23 <andythenorth> fishing tycoon 20:57:29 <planetmaker> :D 20:57:49 <frosch123> (it's the one with 81k fish) 20:58:59 * andythenorth ponders GS ideas 20:59:13 <andythenorth> 'transport cargo' is fine 20:59:28 <andythenorth> but maybe with some variation 21:00:23 <frosch123> i still like the idea to make a gs which favoures feeders most 21:00:33 <andythenorth> that would be neat 21:00:33 <frosch123> something that punishes long tracks 21:00:40 <andythenorth> I like that 21:00:41 <frosch123> i am just not sure how it should work :p 21:00:47 <andythenorth> hmm 21:00:49 <planetmaker> he... 21:00:53 <andythenorth> who cares, pick a name first :) 21:00:56 <andythenorth> names are most important 21:00:59 <andythenorth> Consolidation? 21:01:01 <frosch123> i wondered about checking how often vehicles load and unload 21:01:05 <andythenorth> Feeding Frenzy? 21:01:11 <andythenorth> Distribute? 21:01:15 <frosch123> and add penalties if vehicles are loaded for longer than 10 days or so 21:01:28 <planetmaker> That tells nothing about distances 21:01:34 <andythenorth> can we enforce a number of hops? 21:01:54 <frosch123> we could also try some order analysis :p 21:02:21 <andythenorth> what do you want to enforce for win condition? 21:02:28 <andythenorth> number of transfers? 21:02:38 <andythenorth> or must use all vehicle types? 21:02:53 <andythenorth> or that all cargo must be transferred at least once? 21:02:53 <planetmaker> we simply would have done that, andythenorth 21:02:54 <frosch123> cargo amount * vehicles / distance 21:03:07 <frosch123> or something like that 21:03:22 <frosch123> though it should not favour zig-zag transport :p 21:03:40 <frosch123> quite complicated :) 21:03:51 <planetmaker> hehe... :-) 21:05:10 <planetmaker> sounds realistic. It's cheaper to transport Northsea craps to Marocco for peeling(?) and then ship them back 21:05:37 <Alberth> cargo dist likes short tracks too 21:06:08 <Alberth> good night 21:06:21 <frosch123> maybe just a vehicle order analysis 21:06:26 <frosch123> only allow non-stop orders 21:06:27 <planetmaker> good night, Alberth 21:07:01 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.nightly 21:07:13 <frosch123> only two stations per vehicle 21:07:26 <frosch123> amount of cargo / longest order distance 21:07:30 <planetmaker> what about the orders we had today? 21:07:31 <frosch123> = score 21:07:35 <planetmaker> with refit etc? 21:07:42 <planetmaker> it's 4 stations and 2 depots there 21:07:49 <planetmaker> though 2 identical 21:07:52 <frosch123> ok, i mean two station ids, they may appear multiple times 21:08:17 <frosch123> i am not sure about A->D->B->D->C->D->A stuff 21:08:25 <frosch123> to collect from multiple sources to a single target 21:08:30 <frosch123> but i build them rarely 21:08:42 <frosch123> A->B->C->D is definitely forbidden 21:08:51 <frosch123> else you just put stations on your maniline 21:09:06 <frosch123> oh, better idea 21:09:19 <frosch123> the cargo has to switch vehicle types on every transfer 21:09:20 <planetmaker> hm? 21:09:33 <planetmaker> vehicle types as in train/rv/ship/plane? 21:09:37 <frosch123> yes 21:10:15 <planetmaker> I think we have done that 100% today 21:10:21 <frosch123> one vehicle type may only either deliver or take a cargo type from a station 21:10:36 <planetmaker> passengers? deliver+pickup? 21:10:49 <frosch123> if a vehicle type delivers one cargo type and takes a different, that gives bonus points 21:11:10 <planetmaker> yes, I like that 21:12:23 <frosch123> i guess the same vehicle may take the same cargotype back 21:12:32 <frosch123> but then you can only have one route in that station 21:12:42 <frosch123> i.e. no pax from rv route a to rv route b 21:12:55 <frosch123> they may only be picked up again by rv with the same shared orders 21:13:55 <frosch123> we might use the story book to list invalid vehicle orders 21:14:17 <planetmaker> yeah, otherwise you have same-vehicle transfers. especially with cargodist 21:14:17 <frosch123> cargo transported invalidly is counted negative or so 21:15:01 <frosch123> so, "no loading" orders might be important 21:15:31 <planetmaker> yeah, they're rarely useful 21:15:40 <planetmaker> more so the unload orders 21:20:02 <planetmaker> right, thanks again for the nice game... Bed time now :-) Have a good night 21:20:40 <frosch123> also night 21:20:43 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:22:06 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.nightly