Log for #openttdcoop.nightly on 10th March 2014:
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18:13:40  <planetmaker> !start
18:13:44  <planetmaker> :D
18:27:43  <Taede> feel free to try and set it up here using the guide and .pro as examples
18:27:51  <Taede> ill be here on and off
18:28:04  <Taede> and that way i can test teh accuracy of the page
18:28:33  <planetmaker> yep, I just started
18:28:48  <planetmaker> thanks :)
18:29:02  <Taede> ill update portnumbers on the site just now actually
18:31:30  <planetmaker> he, nice admin PW :P
18:43:30  <Taede> :D
18:43:48  <Taede> i think i was watching pirates of the carribean not long before i set them up
18:54:10  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.channels
18:54:10  <coopserver> planetmaker: #openttdcoop #openttdcoop.stable
18:54:44  <Taede> youll want to save that one for last
18:55:09  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.channels #openttdcoop #openttdcoop.stable #openttdcoop.nightly
18:55:09  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
18:59:15  <Taede> ill also need to improve debug-logging in soap v2
19:00:45  <Taede> i take it openttd has no reason to disconnect an adminclient once the connection is established properly? (aside from losing connection or invalid packets that is)
19:03:56  <planetmaker> not that I know. Doesn't mean there isn't any other than admin client saying 'good bye' or reasons you mentioned
19:06:17  <Taede> dont think soap/loa2 has one either. and theres not much useful log output
19:07:31  <Taede> (openttd does just say that the adminclient has disconnected, so theres probably something going on soapside or network-related
19:08:05  <Taede> just need to dig into networking at some point
19:08:22  <Taede> or put more of the lib into soap directly
19:09:38  <planetmaker> you probably can catch the connection terminated signal. Or detect a dead connection somehow
19:17:15  <planetmaker> !reload Soap
19:17:17  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:17:53  <planetmaker> !start
19:17:54  <coopserver> planetmaker: OFS location invalid. Please review plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:17:59  <planetmaker> aha
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19:21:54  <planetmaker> Taede, what do I need to do to restart coopserver?
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19:25:44  <planetmaker> !start
19:25:45  <coopserver> planetmaker: OFS location invalid. Please review plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:26:03  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:26:04  <coopserver> planetmaker: Global: /home/openttdserver/; #openttdcoop.nightly: /home/openttdserver/
19:27:33  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation /home/openttd/svn-nightly/server
19:27:34  <coopserver> planetmaker: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:27:38  <planetmaker> !whoami
19:27:39  <coopserver> planetmaker: I don't recognize you.
19:27:52  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation /home/openttd/svn-nightly/server
19:27:52  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:27:56  <planetmaker> !start
19:27:57  <coopserver> planetmaker: OFS location invalid. Please review plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:28:04  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:28:04  <coopserver> planetmaker: Global: /home/openttd/svn-nightly/server; #openttdcoop.nightly: /home/openttd/svn-nightly/server
19:28:25  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation /home/openttdserver
19:28:25  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:28:47  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation #openttdcoop.nightly /home/openttdserver
19:28:48  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:28:50  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:28:51  <coopserver> planetmaker: Global: #openttdcoop.nightly /home/openttdserver; #openttdcoop.nightly: #openttdcoop.nightly /home/openttdserver
19:29:01  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation /home/openttdserver
19:29:01  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:29:03  <planetmaker> !config plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:29:03  <coopserver> planetmaker: Global: /home/openttdserver; #openttdcoop.nightly: /home/openttdserver
19:31:35  <Taede> nononono
19:31:44  <Taede> dont change the globals!
19:32:25  <planetmaker> I didn't mean to :)
19:32:32  <planetmaker> I set it back to what it was, though
19:32:33  <Taede> use !config channel plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:32:36  <Taede> :)
19:32:45  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:32:45  <coopserver> Taede: /home/openttdserver
19:32:53  <Taede> !config channel #openttdcoop.stable plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:32:54  <coopserver> Taede: ssh '~/svn-stable/server/{OFS}'
19:32:55  <planetmaker> looked / looks strange, though
19:33:17  <Taede> globals are not usually used really, they are just defaults
19:33:20  <planetmaker> !config channel #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:33:20  <coopserver> planetmaker: /home/openttdserver
19:33:29  <Taede> most stuff should be set on a per-server basis
19:33:31  <planetmaker> !config channel #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ofslocation ~/svn-nightly/server/{OFS}
19:33:31  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:33:39  <planetmaker> !config channel #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:33:40  <coopserver> planetmaker: ~/svn-nightly/server/{OFS}
19:33:48  <planetmaker> !start
19:33:49  <coopserver> planetmaker: OFS location invalid. Please review plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:33:58  <planetmaker> !config channel #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ofslocation ~/svn-nightly/server/ofs
19:33:58  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:33:59  <planetmaker> !start
19:34:01  <coopserver> planetmaker: OFS location invalid. Please review plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:34:04  <planetmaker> meh
19:34:10  <planetmaker> !config channel #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ofslocation ~/svn-nightly/server/{OFS}
19:34:10  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:34:13  <Taede> [19:32:49] <@Taede> !config channel #openttdcoop.stable plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:34:16  <Taede> [19:32:49] <coopserver> Taede: ssh '~/svn-stable/server/{OFS}'
19:34:19  <Taede> look carefully
19:35:19  <Taede> hint: coopserver runs on a different vm than most openttd servers
19:35:50  <planetmaker> !config channel #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ofslocation ssh '~/svn-stable/server/{OFS}'
19:35:51  <coopserver> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
19:35:56  <planetmaker> right. of course :)
19:35:59  <planetmaker> !start
19:36:00  <coopserver> OpenTTD appears to be running already. Try !apconnect instead
19:36:05  <planetmaker> ach?
19:36:16  <planetmaker> !apconnect
19:36:16  <coopserver> Connecting...
19:36:16  <coopserver> Connection failed
19:36:55  <planetmaker> there's also no 3rd one
19:36:56  <planetmaker> hm
19:37:06  <Taede> 3rd one?
19:37:14  <planetmaker> stable / PZ / this one
19:37:37  <planetmaker> stable and PZ are running as openttd instances
19:38:22  <Taede> right, troubleshooting: try running from the actual server directory and see what happens
19:38:58  <planetmaker> first fixing firewall
19:39:07  <Taede> yeah, sounds important
19:40:35  <Taede> tbh, the ports wrt to games.o.o should be reviewed
19:40:48  <planetmaker> I allowed the ports now as on the wiki
19:40:55  <Taede> thatll work
19:41:05  <planetmaker> that's what I tempered with. But just saw that stable was failing to advertize :)
19:44:41  <planetmaker> right, let's assume that now advertising works again
19:45:02  <planetmaker> !start
19:45:03  <coopserver> OpenTTD appears to be running already. Try !apconnect instead
19:45:06  <planetmaker> hm
19:45:14  <planetmaker> why would it say that?
19:45:23  <Taede> try running from ~/svn-nightly/server/ to find out
19:46:02  <planetmaker> that doesn't complain. It forks an openttd into background :D
19:46:34  <planetmaker> so... wrongly configured dir?
19:48:46  <Taede> hmm
19:49:36  <planetmaker> !config #openttdcoop.nightly plugins.Soap.ChannelValue
19:49:36  <coopserver> planetmaker: Error: 'supybot.#openttdcoop.nightly' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:49:50  <Taede> !start
19:49:51  <coopserver> OpenTTD appears to be running already. Try !apconnect instead
19:49:55  <Taede> hm
19:50:32  <Taede> lemme turn off soap packet debugging, so botlog becomes usefull
19:51:19  <Taede> !reload Soap
19:51:19  <coopserver> Taede: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
19:51:30  <Taede> !reload Soap
19:51:34  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
19:53:08  <Taede> !start
19:53:10  <coopserver> OpenTTD appears to be running already. Try !apconnect instead
19:53:20  <Taede> !apconnect
19:53:20  <coopserver> Connecting...
19:53:20  <coopserver> Connection failed
19:54:34  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.ofslocation
19:54:34  <coopserver> Taede: ssh '~/svn-stable/server/{OFS}'
19:54:39  <Taede> ah
19:54:54  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.ofslocationssh '~/svn-nightly/server/{OFS}'
19:54:55  <coopserver> Taede: Error: 'supybot.plugins.Soap.ofslocationssh' is not a valid configuration variable.
19:55:08  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.ofslocation ssh '~/svn-nightly/server/{OFS}'
19:55:08  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
19:55:14  <Taede> you were trying to start stable again
19:55:16  <Taede> !start
19:55:17  <coopserver> Server is starting...
19:55:19  <Taede> brb
19:56:15  <planetmaker> omg :)
20:12:54  <Taede> back
20:12:56  <Taede> !apconnect
20:12:57  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:12:57  <coopserver> Connection failed
20:13:34  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.port
20:13:34  <coopserver> Taede: 3977
20:14:12  <Taede> !!config channel plugins.Soap.port 3996
20:14:17  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.port 3996
20:14:17  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
20:14:28  <Taede> !apconnect
20:14:28  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:14:28  <coopserver> Connection failed
20:14:37  <Taede> !config channel
20:14:38  <coopserver> Taede:
20:14:50  <Taede> !config channel
20:14:50  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
20:14:54  <Taede> !apconnect
20:14:54  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:15:09  <Taede> right, its now connecting to the right server now at least
20:17:27  <planetmaker> hm :)
20:17:50  <Taede> btw, this server advertises fine yet stable still seems to have trouble
20:28:22  <planetmaker> hm, true. Let me re-check
20:29:16  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.serverID
20:29:16  <coopserver> Taede: default
20:29:32  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.serverID goal
20:29:33  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
20:30:11  <Taede> !apconnect
20:30:12  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:31:29  <Taede> not sure why the connection is failing
20:35:01  <planetmaker> ok, I messed up a bit the port config. Possibly got better now
20:35:19  <Taede> !apconnect
20:35:20  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:35:28  <Taede> brb
20:37:04  <planetmaker> <-- or do I still miss anything?
20:41:22  <Taede> dont see anything wrong tbh
20:41:34  <Taede> im assuming the outbound ports are in there just not pasted
20:43:36  <Taede> it does actually connect to nightly, just disconnects immediately
20:45:40  <Taede> !reload Soap
20:45:42  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
20:45:55  <Taede> !apconnect
20:45:56  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:48:07  <Taede> !apconnect
20:48:08  <coopserver> Connecting...
20:48:09  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - Goal Server ( (Version r26358)
20:48:17  <Taede> mustve had a trailing space or something
20:49:05  <planetmaker> well, I changed things 15 minutes ago :)
20:49:05  <Taede> i re-set the password in soap, now it works
20:49:10  <planetmaker> oh :)
20:51:59  <Taede> !config channel plugins.Soap.autoConnect True
20:52:00  <coopserver> Taede: The operation succeeded.
20:52:35  <Taede> thats the basic connection set up anyway
20:52:41  <Taede> set up any others as you wish
20:53:29  <planetmaker> what you mean with other connections?
20:54:07  <Taede> other settings for this connection
20:54:32  * Taede needs to learn to be less consise sometimes
20:55:06  <Taede> theres like playAsPlayer, or passwordInterval
20:55:56  <planetmaker> ah, ok. These kind of settings :)
20:56:31  <Taede> yup, miscellanious section of
20:56:46  <planetmaker> sorry, didn't read that thoroughly yet :)
20:56:59  <planetmaker> reminds me... wanted to fix link in wiki which points to it
20:58:36  <Taede> like a direct link you mean?
20:58:43  <planetmaker> yes. fixed
20:58:53  <planetmaker> the direct link was 404 :)
20:59:21  <Taede> ah, thx
21:09:19  <Taede> !info
21:09:19  <coopserver> Taede: #openttdcoop - Goal Server (, Version: r26358, date: Jan 01 1975, map size: 256x256, address:
21:25:31  <Taede> don't suppose you fancy transferring ps.o.o to the new ps, and setting up a coopserver.o.o?
21:34:26  <planetmaker> you mean the domain name? Hm... NOt today anymore. But... yes, should be done
21:34:36  <planetmaker> now I fancy a shower and some sleep tbh :)
21:34:46  <Taede> :D
21:34:53  <Taede> wont be too long here either
21:43:59  <planetmaker> you want a separate VM for coopserver?
21:44:47  <planetmaker> or just the name?
21:46:14  <planetmaker> !content
21:46:16  <coopserver> Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
21:46:21  <planetmaker> !content update
21:46:27  <planetmaker> !content
21:46:28  <coopserver> Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
22:03:43  <Taede> i'd be content with just a name, depends on what criteria you and spike use for determining when something needs a separate vm
22:04:03  <Taede> !contentupdate
22:04:04  <coopserver> Taede: Performing content update
22:04:05  <coopserver> Content server connection established
22:04:21  <Taede> !content
22:04:22  <coopserver> Downloading 10 file(s) (3319224 bytes)
22:05:04  <Taede> !content
22:05:05  <coopserver> Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
22:05:17  <coopserver> Content server connection closed
22:10:28  <planetmaker> the criteria are fuzzy :) Something between 'too much work' and 'clean separation'. Depends on astrology
22:13:00  <Taede> just name then, its already set up
22:20:29  <planetmaker> ok, I'll try to see whether I can look into that tomorrow. For now a good night :)
22:21:13  <Taede> same here
22:21:17  <Taede> gnite
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