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21:52:46  <Chris_Booth> why thanks Ammler and ^Spike^  for beign super dickheads
21:53:40  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: please, don't excess...
21:54:11  <Chris_Booth> well you do win douche of the day Ammler
21:54:13  <Chris_Booth> well done
21:55:28  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: we set a ban but you joined anyway and you think, you have the right to discuss?
21:55:53  <Chris_Booth> it is after all a very important, presidios and sought after award
21:56:01  <Chris_Booth> every one want to win it
21:56:11  <Chris_Booth> and yes I do when i think it is unfair
21:56:42  <Ammler> then do it with other channels and don't join where you are banned
21:57:05  <Ammler> after all, we didn't like to global ban
21:57:45  <Chris_Booth> you mean we don't
21:57:57  <Chris_Booth> and what other channels?
21:58:15  <Chris_Booth> i am not going to discuss this in here or PS now am I?
21:58:20  <Chris_Booth> how stupid is that
21:58:41  <Chris_Booth> I would much rather point out the faults of others in public now
21:58:48  <Chris_Booth> I would much rather point out the faults of others in public now
21:59:27  <Ammler> well, here is fine, just keep down
21:59:28  <Chris_Booth> That is much, more fun
21:59:40  <Ammler> but keep out from .stable
21:59:50  <Chris_Booth> why?
21:59:53  <Ammler> and that is also the server connected there
21:59:56  <Chris_Booth> It is to do with .stable
22:00:29  <Chris_Booth> It is to do with fairness of your discipline system
22:00:43  <Ammler> oh well, that is because of your behavior, I am sure, you are already informed
22:00:56  <Chris_Booth> My behaviuor?
22:01:14  <Ammler> yes, why else do you think?
22:01:52  <Chris_Booth> I know what i have done, but I have never deleted a company on there for a new player that has never played on our server befor
22:02:08  <Chris_Booth> I have never told someone they are not welcome on that server
22:02:31  <Chris_Booth> All i have done i expressed my opinion, which is not unjust!
22:02:55  <Ammler> yes, but you were already told to not do it that way there
22:03:44  <Ammler> some players have first online experience on that server
22:04:11  <Chris_Booth> I think you should look at your own members before you look at me. I was told not to upset players there. I was not told not to tell players off for what I perceive as bad building and blatant breaching of rules
22:04:28  <Ammler> oh, we also told with our own members about that
22:04:45  <Ammler> but obviously we don't ban members :-P
22:04:51  <Ammler> we need them to admin it
22:05:19  <Ammler> after all it's our "house", we set our own rules
22:06:04  <Chris_Booth> well that is good for you. I don't think a member that sets a bad example should ask another member to ban someone for something they have done them selves, that is just plane stupid
22:06:29  <Ammler> he, the ban is from us all
22:06:41  <Ammler> it's not based on one member
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22:06:53  <Chris_Booth> I also think that if you are going to discipline me for this you need to look at your members. I never said one member did I?
22:07:19  <Ammler> bans happen rarly from only one
22:07:24  <Chris_Booth> I said i don't think I should be banned while a member sets a bad example
22:07:58  <Chris_Booth> I never pointed the blame at one person now, that would be stupid like you members are being
22:07:58  <Ammler> as said, we also talked abou that, but that is something internal
22:08:12  <Chris_Booth> Talked about what?
22:08:59  <Ammler> anyway, other members aren't the "line" for ban
22:09:00  <Chris_Booth> All i said is before you ban anyone you need to sort out rules for members and none members in the channel
22:09:05  <Chris_Booth> and treat people fairly
22:09:16  <Chris_Booth> did i ever say ban anyone?
22:09:26  <Chris_Booth> I said you have banned me unjustly
22:09:53  <Ammler> but you compared with a member, that is simply not feasable
22:10:19  <Chris_Booth> no i compared with any member
22:10:50  <Ammler> if you compare with me, we never can ban someone again
22:10:55  <Chris_Booth> I never said one member had done anything as bad as i have
22:11:47  <Chris_Booth> I said that one more than one occasion members have done thing worse than I have
22:12:09  <Chris_Booth> I also think that what you members did behind my back was unjust and uncalled for
22:12:14  <Chris_Booth> putting all the blame on me
22:12:51  <Chris_Booth> That was rather petty and very very disgraceful.
22:13:42  <Ammler> yes, still doesn't allow you from joining again
22:14:45  <Chris_Booth> why not? I can change my IP when I like. Spike wouldn't talk to me about the ban
22:14:56  <Chris_Booth> that meant i took it into my own hands
22:16:06  <Ammler> the ban is against you, not your IP
22:16:19  <Chris_Booth> as far as I am concerned I think that your ban is poppy cock and means nothing as I think I did nothing wrong.
22:16:34  <Ammler> so that is like I tell you leave my house and don't come back
22:16:47  <Ammler> but keep the door open, would you enter again?
22:16:50  <Chris_Booth> and until I get a proper explanation I will join as much as I like
22:17:09  <Chris_Booth> If you leave that back door open why not?
22:17:26  <Ammler> because you aren't wanted?
22:17:48  <Ammler> if I know, you don't like me to sit at your table, I wouldn't
22:18:05  <Chris_Booth> If someone wanted to getting in your house that badly telling them to get out isn't going to stop them
22:18:05  <Ammler> I don't need to be closed out
22:18:42  <Chris_Booth> I would have left myself if you asked now i just want to come back and annoy you
22:18:48  <Chris_Booth> It is way more fun
22:18:56  <Ammler> well, anyway, also if the ban isn't correct, it is decided
22:19:07  <Chris_Booth> and I still have no real reason why you 'members' banned me
22:19:20  <Ammler> and if you break it again, we will setup global ban...
22:19:43  <Chris_Booth> well maybe you should do that now? As you know I will break it again
22:20:09  <Ammler> no, I still hope, you will come down and behave nicely
22:20:40  <Chris_Booth> Well that isn't going to happen unless you give me a proper reason or unban me
22:20:58  <Chris_Booth> so we seem to be at a rather stick stale mate my good friend Ammler
22:21:05  <Ammler> the reason is given and unban won't happen in next time
22:21:16  <Ammler> yes we are :-)
22:21:52  <Chris_Booth> the reason was never given
22:21:55  <Ammler> I know, the ban was correct, it is documented on our internal board.
22:22:14  <Chris_Booth> all i was ever told was if i don't behave i will be banned by you
22:22:42  <Chris_Booth> then V453000 try to ban me can't work out how so ^Spike^ bans me
22:22:45  <Ammler> you got other messages from others per query
22:23:35  <Chris_Booth> I never. I got one warning when planetmaker took away me @op status as V453000 asked him to.
22:23:46  <Chris_Booth> I am still have not clue why that happened
22:23:52  <Ammler> and the worst is, you didn't excuse, you rather don't accpet it happen
22:24:26  <Chris_Booth> I don't excuse it as i was never asked to.
22:24:55  <Ammler> :-) we need to ask you for an excuse?
22:25:02  <Ammler> then the excuse is quite useless
22:25:22  <Chris_Booth> I except it happened, but I think you are wrong and it was unjust
22:25:33  <Chris_Booth> The reason given was total shit
22:25:34  <Ammler> you might be right
22:25:49  <Ammler> but that still doesn't allow you from joining again
22:25:59  <Chris_Booth> and the people concerned only ever had one side of the story
22:26:24  <Chris_Booth> Its like killing someone with asking them why or what they did
22:26:43  <Chris_Booth> this make #openttdcoop look like china
22:27:26  <Ammler> well, the ban might be to hard at the time it happen, but the behavior now does make it good
22:27:34  <Chris_Booth> (I did like my china reference), been wanted to get china into the argument for ages
22:28:10  <Ammler> he #openttdcoop isn't anarchy, the members rules
22:28:46  <Chris_Booth> All I ever want was the reason why and I may have said okay I was wrong, lets call it a day and I will leave
22:29:06  <Ammler> so I can life with the comparison to China :-)
22:29:35  <Chris_Booth> On the other hand now I am just upset as you behavior, and the behavior of others
22:29:52  <Ammler> yeah, we too about yours
22:30:16  <Chris_Booth> you 'can live life in comparison to china' your English is rubbish today
22:31:32  <Chris_Booth> my behavior could have been stopped, if I was told why you banned me when i asked 2 days ago.
22:31:46  <Ammler> hmm, I mean, your comparison of #openttdcoop to China is fine by me
22:32:06  <Chris_Booth> And then when I asked ^Spike^ today.
22:32:37  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: if you need the reason for the ban, it is like you don't feel guilty, that gives us right.
22:33:50  <Chris_Booth> No I don't fell guilty for telling a player that they are rubbish and that there massively over sized stations and MLs which are built with excess TF are stupid and I hate them.
22:34:27  <Chris_Booth> Since one of the server rules is don't terraform excessively
22:36:37  <Ammler> I fully agree, but you could have said it with other words, as said, I wouldn't mind, but others, specially newbies do.
22:36:56  <Chris_Booth> well good for them.
22:37:35  <Ammler> if I would, you would get a ban for the first words you made in this channel this nigt :-)
22:38:24  <Ammler> such words are usually worth a ban
22:38:24  <Chris_Booth> then ban me
22:38:42  <Ammler> no, I like you :-P
22:39:51  <Chris_Booth> then don't ban me. Just leave me alone and don't make an unfair example or me
22:40:29  <Ammler> indeed
22:41:11  <Chris_Booth> I am glad you agree with me
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22:50:52  <Booth> hi Chris_Booth
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