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01:43:51 *** Intexon has quit IRC 07:12:08 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.pro 07:12:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:32:16 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.pro 08:47:13 *** Progman has quit IRC 10:47:18 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:47:21 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth joined the game 11:01:31 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 11:03:14 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.pro 11:12:18 <V453000> !password 11:12:18 <ProZone> V453000: sieves 11:12:33 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:12:36 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 11:12:49 <ProZone> <V453000> hai 11:30:04 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> holla 11:30:16 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> watching F1 11:30:23 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> after P2 is done I will be here 11:30:36 *** Intexon has quit IRC 11:53:22 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop.pro 11:53:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 11:53:46 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:53:48 <ProZone> *** mfb joined the game 11:54:08 <ProZone> <mfb> oh 11:55:02 <ProZone> <mfb> jam hat oil->slh04a? 12:01:24 <ProZone> <V453000> need 5th ml 12:03:58 <ProZone> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 12:05:55 *** mfb- has quit IRC 12:17:06 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.pro 12:17:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:22:59 <ProZone> *** V453000 has joined spectators 12:37:41 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.pro 12:40:15 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 12:53:50 <XeryusTC> btw V, is this still the pax game? 12:54:00 <Chris_Booth_> btw XeryusTC no 12:54:04 <Chris_Booth_> TL maglev 12:54:08 <Chris_Booth_> Tl2 12:54:13 <XeryusTC> hmm, nice :) 12:54:20 <Chris_Booth_> on a small map 12:54:28 <Chris_Booth_> currently L4_4R ML 12:54:38 <Chris_Booth_> we are going to L6_6R later 12:54:48 <Chris_Booth_> no BBHs 12:54:50 <Chris_Booth_> SLHs only 12:54:54 <Chris_Booth_> and 2 big drops 12:55:14 <XeryusTC> !dl win64 12:55:15 <ProZone> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22375/openttd-trunk-r22375-windows-win64.zip 12:55:50 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 12:55:59 <XeryusTC> !password 12:55:59 <ProZone> XeryusTC: quites 12:56:02 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:56:02 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:56:04 <ProZone> *** XeryusTC joined the game 12:56:12 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> this is monorail 12:56:26 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> also,w here is the network plan at? 12:56:40 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> just signs 12:56:46 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> mark it xD 12:57:14 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> done 12:57:26 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> all of those signs 12:57:32 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> every game should have a network plan sign :P 12:58:18 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> but as you can see we are at full capacity 12:58:25 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> and need expansions 12:58:27 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i noticed at slh 04a :P 12:58:50 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00005A4F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00005A4F.png 12:58:57 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> are SLs interconnected btw? 12:59:04 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> yes 12:59:06 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> also, drive on left? 12:59:09 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> but its not an issue 12:59:15 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> yes 12:59:25 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> since train orders are got north drop 12:59:31 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> pickup go south drop 12:59:45 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> so we got equal goods at both sides 12:59:47 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> how annoying :o 13:00:14 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i dislike that half of the SLs are drive on left and the other half drive on right xD 13:00:25 <V453000> ... 13:00:37 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> only 1 SL is drive on right 13:00:39 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> SLH 01 13:00:47 <V453000> we nawe had no problem with that until now you do :) 13:01:06 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> drive on left makes it hard to understand stuff :P 13:01:22 <V453000> just SLs... 13:02:10 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00004098: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00004098.png 13:02:12 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> true, but still :P 13:02:22 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i can understand how you prefer drive on left for this game though 13:02:36 <V453000> :) 13:04:06 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> but, no plans for lev3 ing the place? 13:04:36 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> we could 13:04:46 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> but would reduces train numbers 13:04:54 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> which is the main goal of this game 13:04:54 <V453000> hell no! 13:05:03 <V453000> monorail is cool 13:05:18 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> xD 13:05:28 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> btw, goods pickup north could use a packer imo 13:05:44 <V453000> no it just needs unjammed ML :) 13:05:54 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i mean at the exit 13:06:13 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> there is like a train gap between those trains, but ofcourse prios are too long to allow trains in between that 13:06:16 <V453000> a packer would mean we would need to highly prioritize the stream on all of the ML 13:06:23 <V453000> which would ... suck 13:06:45 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> ML is already prioritised isnt it? 13:07:03 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> all the packer does is remove the gaps between trains and add them again at the end 13:07:20 <V453000> yes 13:07:25 <XeryusTC> basically you get 6xtrain + 6x empty spot instead of 6x train + empty spot :P 13:07:36 <V453000> but to keep a positive effect, you need an absolute priority that makes sure it doesnt slow at all 13:07:37 <XeryusTC> it might allow for smoother merging 13:07:40 <V453000> which we can get away with now 13:07:50 <XeryusTC> especially with this amound of trains :P 13:08:42 <V453000> I think just normal mergers are completely fine :) 13:08:55 <V453000> if not better 13:09:08 <V453000> but yes, we could greatly increase priorities at SLHs and then make packers 13:09:11 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> lies :P 13:09:14 <V453000> but uhm ... :/ 13:09:28 <ProZone> <XeryusTC> nasty thing is that traffic gets split near Sinfingway so packed traffic doesnt help that much O_o 13:09:34 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> or a final opetion 13:09:40 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> 2x full 2x empty 2x goods 13:09:46 <V453000> :/ 13:09:48 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> so SLs get own lines 13:10:02 <V453000> splitting is lame imo 13:10:03 <XeryusTC> well, you'd only need packers at the main stations :P 13:10:07 <V453000> just make it all to all which would be cool 13:10:22 <V453000> XeryusTC: the problem is that you need to prioritize it, not that you need to make the actual packer 13:10:36 <V453000> and massively long prios could make joining much harder 13:10:47 <XeryusTC> well, you dont need to change prios really 13:10:53 <V453000> any slowdown would break the formation 13:10:58 <XeryusTC> as the prio picks up on the first train, and then blocks until the last one 13:11:04 <V453000> yes 13:11:12 <V453000> but currently we have priorities that do slow ML down 13:11:16 <V453000> because the ML can take it 13:11:17 <XeryusTC> and then you can allow 2 or 3 trains in :P 13:12:09 <V453000> yes, it could result in <stream of goods trains> <raw train> long gap due to prio <stream of goods trains> 13:12:20 <V453000> which could be pretty close to the average throughput now I think 13:12:26 <V453000> and not worth it 13:12:38 <XeryusTC> imo that long gap will be filled with trains at the next slh 13:12:48 <V453000> how could it? 13:12:55 <V453000> when the SLH would need one hell of a long prio 13:13:04 <XeryusTC> it wouldnt 13:13:04 <V453000> ok, accelerated prios, but even those would need to be big 13:13:08 <XeryusTC> prios can stay the same :P 13:13:11 <V453000> no way 13:13:18 <V453000> you cannot slow the stream down 13:13:20 <V453000> or it breaks 13:13:29 <XeryusTC> you just need a packer at the pickup, and then you can keep the rest of the network the same 13:13:46 <V453000> no. the stream cannot be broken or it is useless 13:13:56 <V453000> that will just jam the ML 13:13:56 <XeryusTC> but it wont 13:14:09 <XeryusTC> as trains have max 3 tiles between them when they leave the packer 13:14:12 <V453000> it will be broken with current prios, look how they slow the ML trains down 13:14:19 <V453000> yes 13:14:28 <XeryusTC> so any prio will pick up the packed trains and keep blocking trains from entering until the pack is gone 13:14:31 <V453000> and if in front of them is a gap, it will break because the train will be released in front of them 13:14:32 <XeryusTC> so you will not slow it down 13:15:00 <V453000> that would work only for a totally full and packed line, which could be a goods only line in the end anyway, where no SLHs would join 13:15:05 <XeryusTC> but prio length doesnt have to change at the slhs at all, as they are now also long enough to not block ML trains 13:15:19 <V453000> they do slow the ML :) just watch 13:15:32 <V453000> just look how long do those trains accelerate 13:15:47 <XeryusTC> at the SLHs that i have seen so far they dont 13:15:48 <V453000> and you realize that 12 tile prios or however long we make them just cannot be enough 13:16:03 <V453000> yes because the ML is at capacity and trains arent released either :) 13:16:05 <XeryusTC> which were all made by CB btw :P 13:16:53 <XeryusTC> but otoh it is a downside of monorail, those trains dont hold any power at all 13:17:29 <V453000> -> just add lines :) 13:17:39 <V453000> the acceleration is very bad, but still manageable 13:18:00 <XeryusTC> well, fortunately it is not lev4 acceleration :P 13:18:12 <V453000> yes, that is just too bad :) 13:18:42 <XeryusTC> but getting the most out of the current number of lines is more fun than just adding more lines when you need it :P 13:18:51 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000077E4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000077E4.png 13:18:51 <V453000> yes but you cannot do that 13:19:12 <V453000> or you would need to make accelerated prios etc from the start 13:19:12 <XeryusTC> current network is quite full anyway so anything you do might not make that much of an impact 13:19:18 <XeryusTC> but overall i think that it would help :P 13:19:26 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 13:19:26 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:19:45 <V453000> as I said, it would not help at this state, you would need to edit things 13:20:06 <V453000> because imagine the stream you got X trains in a row and one of them splits to the SL, but no train can join that spot 13:20:20 <V453000> right now it is likely that if a train splits, it frees a place up for a train to join from the SL 13:20:33 <XeryusTC> yes, but you only pack the goods trains 13:20:35 <V453000> unless we would build accelerated prios so trains could use such empty little spaces 13:20:42 <XeryusTC> so it is a full pack until it reaches the other side of the map 13:20:52 <XeryusTC> packing after every slh would be plain stupid 13:20:54 <V453000> well, int that case you still need accelerated joins or massive prios 13:21:05 <V453000> to not slow the goods stream down 13:21:08 <XeryusTC> no you dont 13:21:16 <V453000> hell 13:21:21 <XeryusTC> because the goods trains behave like a TL12 train 13:21:24 <V453000> can you allow to slow the stream down? no 13:21:26 <V453000> yes 13:21:32 <V453000> and its head cannot be slowed 13:21:45 <XeryusTC> yes, but most prios already dont slow it 13:21:47 <XeryusTC> only a few 13:21:49 <V453000> so if there is a gap of 9 in front of it and you have a prio of 20, the 9 gap cannot be used 13:21:58 <V453000> then they are rather lucky 13:22:19 <XeryusTC> it seems like you only need 10 prio for a train to not be slowed down 13:22:22 <XeryusTC> possibly only 8 13:22:28 <V453000> I strongly doubt that 13:22:36 <V453000> since 0->305kmh is like 20 tiles 13:22:39 <XeryusTC> so quite often you can get in a few trains if you pack 6 of them together 13:23:45 <V453000> I understand your point but I think it just isnt realizable effectively 13:24:00 <V453000> it will make so many problems and eat so much space 13:25:04 <XeryusTC> imo it would solve more than it would cause 13:26:39 <V453000> I think the result would be very close to the current state in terms of effectiveness 13:26:45 <V453000> taking some real effort 13:26:55 <V453000> anyway, I need to mow some damn grass, so later 13:48:49 <Chris_Booth_> XeryusTC: you may have noticed the whole map is made by either me or V453000 and one hub by Vinnie 13:49:00 <Chris_Booth_> but that has chaneged so much now 13:51:54 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 13:52:48 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> XeryusTC: I am back if you want to play 13:53:06 <XeryusTC> oh i am kind of doing a puzzle atm :P 13:53:44 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I think at this stage we need a new approach such as Packing the ML isn't bad since 4 - 6 is a big build 13:53:55 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> so adding packing in isn't that hard 13:54:05 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> but I don't like the idea of packing 13:54:11 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> as SML is just boring 13:57:00 <XeryusTC> well, it is not packing like SML 13:57:14 <XeryusTC> but what this network atm needs is 6 lanes 13:57:19 <XeryusTC> and then packing can be added :P 13:58:08 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> with 6 lines we should be able to get 3 spatas worth of trains 13:59:20 <XeryusTC> 3 spatas? 14:00:37 <Chris_Booth> yeah 1 spata is 300 14:00:54 <Chris_Booth> :P 14:01:16 <XeryusTC> xD 14:01:22 <XeryusTC> just call it 900 dude :P 14:02:23 <XeryusTC> and time to get something to eat :P 14:14:31 <ProZone> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 14:53:38 *** Progman has quit IRC 14:58:27 <V453000> !password 14:58:27 <ProZone> V453000: pounce 14:58:41 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:58:44 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 15:45:19 <ProZone> *** V453000 has joined spectators 15:58:21 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:06:49 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:06:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 17:20:48 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.pro 18:19:36 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop.pro 18:19:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 18:36:33 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.pro 19:11:12 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:21:45 <V453000> !password 19:21:45 <ProZone> V453000: soccer 19:21:52 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:21:55 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 19:21:59 <ProZone> <V453000> SPARTA 19:22:46 <V453000> Chris_Booth: guess you arent joining with 1fps on PS which doesnt have even one sparta eh? :| 19:27:45 <mfb-> !password 19:27:45 <ProZone> mfb-: uptake 19:27:55 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:27:55 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:27:58 <ProZone> *** mfb joined the game 19:27:59 <ProZone> <V453000> yey, hi :) 19:28:06 <ProZone> <mfb> hi 19:28:08 <ProZone> <V453000> sparta on schedule 19:28:40 <ProZone> <mfb> where? 19:28:42 <ProZone> <mfb> MLjam here 19:28:44 <ProZone> <V453000> thats the point 19:28:46 <ProZone> <V453000> eveywhere 19:28:51 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000E2DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000E2DF.png 19:29:05 <ProZone> <mfb> just at SLH01 19:29:07 <ProZone> <V453000> im currently starting at south 19:29:15 <ProZone> <V453000> no 19:29:25 <ProZone> <V453000> trains are jammed, as soon as they unjam, jams will be everywhere else too 19:29:33 <ProZone> <mfb> ok 19:30:50 <ProZone> <mfb> now? 19:30:56 <ProZone> <V453000> wa? 19:31:03 <ProZone> <mfb> don't see new jams 19:31:07 <ProZone> <mfb> yet 19:31:10 <ProZone> <V453000> yet. :) 19:31:33 <ProZone> <mfb> ah, you are already at "move split here" 19:31:36 <ProZone> <V453000> es 19:31:38 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 19:32:11 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000DE63: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000DE63.png 19:35:09 <ProZone> <mfb> ? 19:35:32 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000DA5F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000DA5F.png 19:35:37 <ProZone> <V453000> moving split? 19:36:06 <ProZone> <mfb> which? where? 19:36:22 <ProZone> <V453000> still at the same place :) south 19:36:48 <ProZone> <V453000> hmf 19:36:48 <ProZone> <mfb> I know that you are doing this ;) 19:37:02 <ProZone> <V453000> then why do you ask 19:37:19 <ProZone> <mfb> was just my idea for the double bridge 19:38:10 <Chris_Booth> I will be in here in 20 mins guys 19:38:24 <ProZone> <V453000> quickly hide the booze 19:38:52 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D168: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D168.png 19:42:12 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D062: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D062.png 19:45:32 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D76D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D76D.png 19:46:43 <ProZone> <mfb> jam in circles :) 19:48:39 <ProZone> <mfb> ok that is a flaw of the twoway-SL design 19:48:52 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D873: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D873.png 19:49:09 <ProZone> <V453000> anything would break with a network under construction like this :) 19:49:42 <ProZone> <mfb> it is not the construction 19:49:49 <ProZone> <V453000> jams and stuff 19:49:52 <ProZone> <mfb> trains are waiting in a circle 19:50:02 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 19:50:04 <ProZone> <mfb> so they can never unjam 19:50:15 <ProZone> <V453000> hmm :) 19:50:25 <ProZone> <V453000> well it shouldnt happen either way :) 19:51:24 <ProZone> <mfb> ok 19:51:28 <ProZone> <mfb> jam is back to the regular one 19:52:13 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000DBF2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000DBF2.png 19:55:33 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000B39A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000B39A.png 19:55:46 <ProZone> <mfb> ugly method to remove them jam now at SLH03a 19:56:25 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth #1 joined the game 19:56:29 <ProZone> <V453000> haioo 19:56:54 <ProZone> <mfb> the big merger again :p 19:57:00 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 19:57:02 <ProZone> <V453000> I like it 19:57:08 <ProZone> <Chris Booth #1> hi 19:57:11 <ProZone> <mfb> hi 19:57:29 <ProZone> <mfb> are there more chris booths? :p 19:58:10 <V453000> !players 19:58:13 <ProZone> V453000: Client 198 is Chris Booth, a spectator 19:58:13 <ProZone> V453000: Client 211 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Lunthill City Transport) 19:58:13 <ProZone> V453000: Client 215 (Orange) is mfb, in company 1 (Lunthill City Transport) 19:58:13 <ProZone> V453000: Client 216 (Orange) is Chris Booth #1, in company 1 (Lunthill City Transport) 19:58:21 <V453000> oh that isnt a mistake :D 19:58:32 <ProZone> <V453000> should I kick the spec? 19:58:42 <ProZone> <mfb> ? 19:58:52 <ProZone> <V453000> there is a spectator CB :) 19:58:53 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000AD60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000AD60.png 19:59:03 <mfb-> ah 19:59:31 <ProZone> <Chris Booth #1> is there a jam? 19:59:37 <ProZone> <mfb> wait, 9 lines? 19:59:37 <ProZone> <Chris Booth #1> or are we missing trains? 19:59:47 <ProZone> <mfb> jam 19:59:54 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 19:59:58 <ProZone> <mfb> see SLH03b and others 20:00:00 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth #1 has left the game (connection lost) 20:00:10 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> didn't know I had 2 clients open 20:00:13 <ProZone> <mfb> oh, one was my mistake 20:00:51 <ProZone> <mfb> any method to see all stopped trains? 20:01:40 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I think maybe we should go for 6 firsy 20:01:42 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> befor 9 20:01:54 <ProZone> <V453000> there just is the merge :p 20:02:00 <ProZone> <V453000> friendly to connect more lines to it 20:02:13 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000E45F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000E45F.png 20:03:26 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> its not the mergers it the space 20:03:32 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> such as SLH 04b 20:03:51 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> only 14 tiles from coast to industry 20:03:57 <ProZone> <mfb> maybe oil will have to die 20:05:34 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000DB6F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000DB6F.png 20:08:36 <mfb-> @gap 2 20:08:36 <Webster> mfb-: For Trainlength of 2: <= 8 needs 2, 9 - 12 needs 3, 13 - 16 needs 4. 20:08:54 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C35D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C35D.png 20:12:14 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D5C9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D5C9.png 20:12:58 <ProZone> <mfb> ugly mountain there 20:14:05 <ProZone> <V453000> wait 20:14:20 <ProZone> <mfb> :D 20:14:24 <ProZone> <mfb> here 20:14:26 <ProZone> <V453000> eh 20:14:49 <ProZone> <V453000> leave it 20:15:10 <ProZone> <mfb> that is a long prio 20:15:22 <ProZone> <V453000> others arent much shorter 20:15:32 <ProZone> <V453000> 13 tiles 20:15:34 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000ACDB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000ACDB.png 20:16:15 <ProZone> <V453000> eh we need ad merger for the southern drop 20:16:19 <ProZone> <V453000> who is gonna build it? :) 20:16:28 <ProZone> <V453000> I built the pickup 20:17:13 <ProZone> <V453000> that will be better ;) 20:17:23 <ProZone> <mfb> +larger 20:17:30 <ProZone> <V453000> meh ++ 20:17:36 <ProZone> <mfb> well ok 20:17:43 <ProZone> <mfb> the short exit was not solved yet 20:18:55 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00007F63: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00007F63.png 20:21:46 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators 20:22:15 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000060D1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000060D1.png 20:24:26 <ProZone> <mfb> that prio looks difficult 20:25:20 <ProZone> <mfb> no 20:25:35 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000635A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000635A.png 20:25:36 <ProZone> <V453000> worky :) 20:25:59 <ProZone> <mfb> ah nice 20:26:01 <ProZone> <V453000> pippe :p 20:26:07 <ProZone> <V453000> pipes are the best 20:27:38 <ProZone> <mfb> no need to add twoways at the SLH 20:27:43 <ProZone> <mfb> :) 20:28:55 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00004864: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00004864.png 20:32:10 <ProZone> <mfb> ? 20:32:15 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000065EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000065EB.png 20:32:24 <ProZone> <mfb> problems with the old prio? 20:32:30 <ProZone> <V453000> too slow 20:32:36 <ProZone> <V453000> or ... too short 20:32:50 <ProZone> <V453000> was slowing trains down very of ten 20:33:44 <ProZone> <V453000> k ... mergers 20:34:43 <ProZone> <V453000> fuck 20:34:50 <ProZone> <V453000> pickups will need 3rd line :) 20:34:58 <ProZone> <V453000> well, it can hold for a while 20:35:10 <ProZone> <V453000> why temp ... 20:35:16 <ProZone> <V453000> it needs to be built anyway 20:35:35 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D5D1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D5D1.png 20:35:42 <ProZone> <mfb> no idea why 20:35:48 <ProZone> <V453000> PBS 20:35:50 <ProZone> <V453000> dumb 20:36:00 <ProZone> <V453000> the line is just longer 20:37:54 <ProZone> <V453000> want to build it? 20:38:12 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm... no 20:38:18 <ProZone> <V453000> :( 20:38:56 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000DEC3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000DEC3.png 20:39:46 <ProZone> <mfb> interesting how good the overall flow is now 20:40:24 <ProZone> <V453000> look at northern ML and say it again :) 20:40:45 <ProZone> <mfb> where is the problem? 20:41:01 <ProZone> <V453000> north drop 20:41:06 <ProZone> <V453000> at least a part of it 20:41:14 <ProZone> <V453000> and missing 5th is the rest of the problem :) 20:41:29 <ProZone> <mfb> I don't see jams there 20:41:39 <ProZone> <V453000> like every SLH is jammed 20:41:53 <ProZone> <V453000> on the northbound ML 20:42:04 <ProZone> <mfb> 1+4 get problems now, ok 20:45:36 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D9CA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D9CA.png 20:48:56 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C0A6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C0A6.png 20:52:16 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C2A1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C2A1.png 20:53:15 <ProZone> <V453000> the first one fills the gap far better 20:53:32 <ProZone> <mfb> ah 20:53:34 <ProZone> <V453000> :p 20:53:34 <ProZone> <mfb> :p 20:54:16 <ProZone> <mfb> :D 20:55:16 <ProZone> <mfb> no 20:55:37 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000BDA7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000BDA7.png 20:57:40 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm 20:58:57 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000BC23: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000BC23.png 20:59:30 <ProZone> <V453000> dutch TF mode 20:59:32 <ProZone> <V453000> :p 20:59:52 <ProZone> <mfb> that is not the problem 20:59:59 <ProZone> <mfb> but it is not a double bridge there 21:00:09 <ProZone> <mfb> so the trains need a new choice 21:00:21 <ProZone> <V453000> hm 21:00:39 <ProZone> <V453000> just not make it a doubled bridge but a choice bridge? 21:00:53 <ProZone> <mfb> then we have a long single bridge for much traffic 21:01:00 <ProZone> <mfb> most of the traffic indeed 21:01:22 <ProZone> <mfb> :D 21:02:11 <ProZone> <mfb> that connection was already there 21:02:17 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C3B4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C3B4.png 21:02:19 <ProZone> <mfb> "ok" 21:02:30 <ProZone> <V453000> there we go 21:03:18 <ProZone> <V453000> hm 21:03:24 <ProZone> <V453000> why didnt you expand it to the outer side btw 21:03:38 <ProZone> <V453000> well meh there can be 6th 21:03:44 <ProZone> <mfb> wanted to do that 21:03:51 <ProZone> <mfb> but the entry stopped me 21:03:53 <ProZone> <V453000> sure, np 21:05:27 <ProZone> <V453000> the prio is a bitch 21:05:30 <ProZone> <V453000> barely long enough 21:05:37 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000B1A5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000B1A5.png 21:05:50 <ProZone> <V453000> 8 ... lets see 21:05:58 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm 21:06:14 <ProZone> <mfb> move the 4th split in again and let the prio use both double bridges? 21:06:54 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm 21:07:04 <ProZone> <V453000> fune :D 21:07:26 <ProZone> <mfb> works 21:07:31 <ProZone> <V453000> sure :) 21:07:42 <ProZone> <mfb> we have trains on that line? 21:07:52 <ProZone> <V453000> might be 21:07:58 <ProZone> <V453000> the merger is already complete 21:08:01 <ProZone> <mfb> oh ok 21:08:57 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000089A8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000089A8.png 21:09:01 <ProZone> <mfb> inside again? 21:09:05 <ProZone> <V453000> yeah 21:09:07 <ProZone> <V453000> fits more 21:09:46 <ProZone> <V453000> hmm too long I guess 21:09:52 <ProZone> <V453000> the bridges 21:10:00 <ProZone> <mfb> :( 21:10:02 <ProZone> <V453000> hell, lets see later 21:10:08 <ProZone> <mfb> and too short waiting bay 21:10:11 <ProZone> <V453000> oh, true 21:10:15 <ProZone> <mfb> even for pbs 21:10:31 <ProZone> <mfb> I will move the lines 21:11:02 <ProZone> <mfb> too much? 21:12:08 <ProZone> <mfb> prio length :( 21:12:18 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00008AA7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00008AA7.png 21:13:29 <ProZone> <V453000> Sbends with TL2 are a nice thing :) 21:13:35 <ProZone> <mfb> hehe 21:14:35 <ProZone> <mfb> 01a outside? 21:14:53 <ProZone> <V453000> probably, yes 21:15:38 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000641B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000641B.png 21:18:39 <ProZone> <V453000> there never was one 21:18:51 <ProZone> <V453000> well it would have died anyway :p we ended its torment 21:18:58 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00004299: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00004299.png 21:20:03 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm 21:20:07 <ProZone> <mfb> wrong gap at SLH01 21:20:32 <ProZone> <V453000> ? 21:20:46 <ProZone> <V453000> we need to finish the 5th asap, missing connections 21:20:57 <ProZone> <V453000> k 21:22:18 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000059A8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000059A8.png 21:22:39 <ProZone> <mfb> missing connections? where? (except at the end) 21:22:46 <ProZone> <V453000> the end :) 21:24:28 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:24:30 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:24:59 <V453000> damn I will have to go 21:25:00 <V453000> later 21:25:38 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000211B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000211B.png 21:26:11 <V453000> ah nevermind 21:26:16 <V453000> panic mode, I got one more hour 21:26:19 <V453000> !password 21:26:19 <ProZone> V453000: zenith 21:26:29 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:26:29 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:26:32 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 21:28:59 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00002AED: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00002AED.png 21:32:19 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000028EC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000028EC.png 21:33:02 <ProZone> <V453000> aww 21:35:39 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000256B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000256B.png 21:38:59 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00001F9C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00001F9C.png 21:42:19 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000020A0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000020A0.png 21:44:57 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 21:45:05 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> less progress than I expected 21:45:22 <ProZone> <V453000> 5th is basically done ... 21:45:24 <ProZone> <mfb> you can improve that now :p 21:45:32 <ProZone> <V453000> ^ bitch 21:45:40 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00002C9A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00002C9A.png 21:45:59 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I could noob it up 21:46:15 <ProZone> <V453000> I somewhat expanded your mergers 21:46:17 <ProZone> <V453000> seems to work so far 21:46:38 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> they where quite good mergers 21:46:43 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> nort more so than south 21:47:20 <ProZone> <V453000> well, I promoted them to the "hope that works" class 21:47:20 <ProZone> <V453000> :P 21:47:38 <ProZone> <mfb> :( 21:47:44 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> south was in that class already 21:47:54 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> so now it must be in of fuck I hope that works 21:48:01 <ProZone> <V453000> it is nice though :) 21:48:03 <ProZone> <V453000> :D 21:48:19 <ProZone> <V453000> maybe you would like to LLL the north drop? :p 21:48:21 <ProZone> <mfb> want to finish the north raw drop merger? 21:48:31 <ProZone> <mfb> that, too 21:48:49 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> hhm I like the north do 21:48:54 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> looks nice as it is 21:49:00 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00002918: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00002918.png 21:49:10 <ProZone> <mfb> 5th line is not connected there yet 21:52:20 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000015BA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000015BA.png 21:52:22 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> this is going to hurt 21:52:46 <ProZone> <mfb> you don't have to fill every tile :p 21:53:16 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I do 21:53:24 <ProZone> <V453000> mad people do not need reasons 21:53:44 <ProZone> <mfb> oh and CL2 21:53:46 <ProZone> <V453000> just like the hill station :P 21:53:48 <ProZone> <mfb> so you don't need these 21:55:40 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C39E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C39E.png 21:59:01 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00001F2C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00001F2C.png 22:00:13 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> now the game 'how much mixer can I remove and make it still owrk' 22:00:15 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> work 22:00:23 <ProZone> <V453000> :D 22:02:21 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000496E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000496E.png 22:05:42 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000018C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000018C3.png 22:09:02 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000016C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000016C4.png 22:09:46 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> how hard can it be to make a 6 ->3 22:12:05 <ProZone> <mfb> good night 22:12:11 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> nn mfb 22:12:23 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000013BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000013BE.png 22:12:24 <ProZone> <mfb> goods drop north will need a 3rd exit soon 22:12:51 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> yes 22:12:57 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I am working on raws 22:12:59 <ProZone> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:13:15 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:13:20 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:15:43 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000014C9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000014C9.png 22:19:03 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00001848: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00001848.png 22:19:22 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> what a mess 22:19:25 <ProZone> <V453000> :) 22:19:45 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I am fixing it 22:19:47 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> slowly 22:22:23 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00001649: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00001649.png 22:25:43 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00002049: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00002049.png 22:29:00 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> 1 section left 22:29:04 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000020C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000020C3.png 22:31:38 <ProZone> <V453000> I will have to go in a few minutes 22:31:43 <ProZone> <V453000> I can leave it open though 22:31:57 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> no its fine 22:32:06 <ProZone> <V453000> well, rather finish it 22:32:24 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00001EC5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00001EC5.png 22:32:44 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> I will be here tomorrow 22:33:02 <ProZone> <V453000> hm, I think I have whole day free :o 22:33:42 <ProZone> <V453000> maybe deny some choices to the PBS? 22:33:44 <ProZone> <V453000> such as 22:33:54 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> yeah 22:34:02 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> good idea 22:34:09 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> otherwise they will cross to much 22:34:15 <ProZone> <V453000> zep 22:34:17 <ProZone> <V453000> yep 22:34:40 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> once this is done we will need ot rebuild that merger tomorrow 22:34:46 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> for 3 exit lines 22:34:48 <ProZone> <V453000> probably :) 22:34:54 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> so you can leave when you want 22:35:00 <ProZone> <V453000> we will also need to expand goods stations and whatever :o 22:35:03 <ProZone> <V453000> k, so cya :) 22:35:13 <ProZone> <V453000> 3 spartas are close 22:35:16 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> no much I can do with attacking the merger 22:35:22 <ProZone> <V453000> yeah 22:35:22 <ProZone> <Chris Booth> hell yes 22:35:36 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:35:36 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:35:40 <ProZone> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 22:35:44 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000023C1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000023C1.png 23:50:14 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC