Log for on 27th November 2012:
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00:00:11  <ProZone> <Dom> brb just getting something to drink
00:01:17  <ProZone> <V453000> simple, SLs just lead only to the wp they are
00:01:23  <ProZone> <V453000> everything on SL is terminus
00:04:06  <ProZone> <Dom> ok
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00:08:17  <ProZone> <V453000> that is copper ore complete
00:20:51  <ProZone> <Dom> im getting lost in the order list..
00:21:17  <ProZone> <V453000> sorry cant explain things now
00:21:23  <ProZone> <Dom> np :)
00:21:37  <ProZone> <Dom> brb 10 mins
00:38:44  <ProZone> <Dom> back
00:40:20  <ProZone> <V453000> complete
00:40:21  <ProZone> <Dom> how are the orders comming?
00:40:23  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
00:40:37  <ProZone> <Dom> 54 order left free :D
00:40:49  <ProZone> <V453000> those will have to be filled with anti-implicit orders
00:41:03  <ProZone> <V453000> also, the final WP is useless at this point
00:42:53  <ProZone> <V453000> k 192/3 orders
00:42:56  <ProZone> <V453000> not bad
00:43:26  <ProZone> <Dom> and the rest  some unreachable wp?
00:43:36  <ProZone> <V453000> pretty much
00:44:00  <ProZone> <Dom> i think it would be important to make a sign to not touch the order list :D
00:44:48  <ProZone> <Dom> oh btw how come some order are non stop and some arent
00:44:50  <ProZone> <Dom> ?
00:45:18  <ProZone> <V453000> go via WP -cargo- number is correct
00:45:24  <ProZone> <V453000> everything else should be nonstop I think
00:45:26  <ProZone> <Dom> ok
00:45:40  <ProZone> <V453000> it should not matter in fact, but I did it that way
00:45:59  <ProZone> <V453000> and this is our full order list
00:46:29  <ProZone> <Dom> nice :)
00:46:44  <ProZone> <Dom> so we can start with  the sl's?
00:46:51  <ProZone> <V453000> now SL guide
00:48:10  <ProZone> <Dom> btw even if ther would have been the X WP order we couldn't have reached 255 orders
00:48:29  <ProZone> <V453000> it would have been a lot more complicated
00:48:35  <ProZone> <Dom> true
00:48:35  <ProZone> <V453000> we would have exceeded 255
00:48:38  <ProZone> <Dom> oh
00:48:52  <ProZone> <Dom> order list is already to complicated :D
00:49:10  <ProZone> <V453000> there would be 4 more orders per every trip of every goods delivery and like 6 or 7 more for every raw
00:49:10  <ProZone> <V453000> a lot
00:51:59  <ProZone> <Dom> so full and empty trains use same ml?
00:52:11  <ProZone> <Dom> this would be a srnw first as far as i know
00:52:13  <ProZone> <V453000> you see any other ML? .)
00:52:27  <ProZone> <Dom> maybe invis ml like invis leading engine ;)
00:52:37  <ProZone> <V453000> going backwards.
00:52:45  <ProZone> <V453000> no, trains do use one ML :)
00:53:03  <ProZone> <Dom> as said a srnw first
00:53:14  <ProZone> <V453000> probably, yes
00:53:40  <ProZone> <V453000> we havent really used mass conditional order SRNW either so that is pretty much the same reason sort of
00:54:48  <ProZone> <Dom> what does a trap do?
00:55:02  <ProZone> <V453000> makes trains think the SL leads to the waypoint
00:55:16  <ProZone> <V453000> if the SL "really" led to the waypoint, goods trains would take it
00:55:16  <ProZone> <Dom> doesnt the pf do that?
00:55:20  <ProZone> <V453000> we can make an example
00:56:10  <ProZone> <V453000> here is our goods train
00:56:14  <ProZone> <Dom> yes
00:56:16  <ProZone> <V453000> it has to stay on the ring
00:56:26  <ProZone> <V453000> now we have a ore train
00:57:20  <ProZone> <V453000> right
00:57:26  <ProZone> <V453000> now, only ore train picks SL
00:57:36  <ProZone> <V453000> but if I kill the terminus/reverser on the SL:
00:57:42  <ProZone> <V453000> reverser down
00:57:48  <ProZone> <V453000> goods trains see the large penalty
00:57:50  <ProZone> <V453000> and go through Sl
00:57:56  <ProZone> <Dom> ok
00:58:24  <ProZone> <V453000> that is pretty much it
00:58:34  <ProZone> <V453000> if I removed penalty, raw trains wouldnt go on SL
00:59:09  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
00:59:24  <ProZone> <Dom> only the one penalty forces the ore train into sl
00:59:32  <ProZone> <V453000> of course
00:59:46  <ProZone> <Dom> i thought the pf trap
01:00:14  <ProZone> <V453000> look now then
01:00:16  <ProZone> <V453000> no trap
01:00:26  <ProZone> <V453000> :ddd
01:00:26  <ProZone> <V453000> :P
01:00:29  <ProZone> <V453000> well now to exaplain it
01:00:39  <ProZone> <V453000> a penalty says "this track is bad, choose a better one"
01:00:50  <ProZone> <Dom> but there is no better one
01:00:52  <ProZone> <V453000> but there is only one option how to get to teh waypoint
01:00:54  <ProZone> <V453000> yes
01:00:58  <ProZone> <V453000> the pf trap gives that option
01:01:16  <ProZone> <V453000> of course pf trap is long here, so it needs a penalty to become the "better" option
01:01:22  <ProZone> <V453000> hope that makes sense
01:01:38  <ProZone> <Dom> it does :)
01:01:53  <ProZone> <Dom> i've reconnected the pf traps still the ore trtains takes the penalty
01:02:07  <ProZone> <V453000> you didnt actually
01:02:26  <ProZone> <V453000> maglev tracks are sneaky :)
01:02:27  <ProZone> <Dom> oh the 90° stuff only works for signals but not for the pathfinder
01:02:45  <ProZone> <V453000> :d yeah
01:02:51  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
01:03:55  <ProZone> <V453000> what did you expect that to do
01:04:23  <ProZone> <Dom> maybe that the trains will choose the other station
01:04:35  <ProZone> <V453000> the trap shows the first
01:04:38  <ProZone> <V453000> if you did
01:04:44  <ProZone> <V453000> then yes
01:04:46  <ProZone> <V453000> because now trap is red
01:04:48  <ProZone> <Dom> kill the signals :D
01:04:52  <ProZone> <V453000> now isnt
01:04:54  <ProZone> <V453000> train chooses first
01:06:08  <ProZone> <Dom> so lets start sideline building then :D
01:06:22  <ProZone> <V453000> I will probably be going to sleep
01:06:32  <ProZone> <Dom> oh its already 2 am xDD
01:06:40  <ProZone> <V453000> well yeah :)
01:07:02  <ProZone> <V453000> I have to do something useful tomorrow, spent whole day sleeping and writing wiki article today ...
01:07:20  <ProZone> <Dom> sleeping is always usefull :D
01:07:50  <ProZone> <V453000> this thing is going to be awesome
01:07:57  <ProZone> <Dom> yes
01:08:23  <ProZone> <Dom> i may have some fear for the order list but ok
01:08:25  <ProZone> <Dom> D:
01:08:25  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
01:08:31  <ProZone> <V453000> well you dont touch it
01:08:33  <ProZone> <V453000> you just build SL
01:08:37  <ProZone> <V453000> and let trains in it
01:08:40  <ProZone> <Dom> i won't
01:08:46  <ProZone> <Dom> touch the order list
01:08:52  <ProZone> <V453000> well yeah but you dont need to mainly
01:09:03  <ProZone> <V453000> all trains on the whole network share that list
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01:12:45  <Dom_> hmm
01:13:02  <Dom_> pro zone doesn't like us :(
01:13:20  <Dom_> well anyway I'm going to sleep
01:13:30  <Dom_> n8 and cya :)
01:15:14  <V453000> yeah gn
01:15:19  <V453000> it is a bitch
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03:03:19  <ProZone> Sylf: sentry
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09:59:01  <ProZone> Dom___: chubby
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11:35:00  <Vinnie> !password
11:35:00  <ProZone> Vinnie: chubby
11:35:09  <Vinnie> you calling me fat?
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11:36:03  <ProZone> <V453000> hell
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11:36:07  <ProZone> <Vinnie> hell
11:36:33  <ProZone> <V453000> we are ready for SLs :) and SLs need to be terminus :P
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11:38:20  <ProZone> <Vinnie> looks easy enough :)
11:38:38  <ProZone> <V453000> should be just fine
11:38:56  <ProZone> <V453000> when you start combining the SLs so you get more than 1 cargo it will be more fun
11:39:36  <ProZone> <Vinnie> Maybe a backup orderlist?
11:39:50  <ProZone> <V453000> the one train is backup
11:39:53  <ProZone> <V453000> and I have a save
11:43:02  <ProZone> <V453000> made a few trains to randomly run on the ML :)
11:44:21  <ProZone> <V453000> fun is we dont even need a massive amount of pf traps everywhere around
11:44:29  <ProZone> <V453000> just 1 trap for 1 SL, ending at that waypoint
11:44:53  <ProZone> <Vinnie> about a sideline
11:45:15  <ProZone> <Vinnie> every sideline to North should join before !join?
11:45:33  <ProZone> <V453000> yes the waypoints should be moved
11:45:47  <ProZone> <V453000> but you will need to move with all waypoints everywhere
11:45:57  <ProZone> <V453000> generally waypoints have to be near the end of the squares
11:46:15  <ProZone> <V453000> where exactly depends on which merge is where
11:46:17  <ProZone> <V453000> etc
11:51:37  <ProZone> <V453000> yeah pretty easy
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12:07:04  <ProZone> <V453000> the reverser at the SL actually probably isnt needed
12:07:06  <ProZone> <V453000> terminus stations are
12:07:41  <ProZone> <V453000> k nevermind
12:07:43  <ProZone> <V453000> im dumb
12:08:02  <ProZone> <Vinnie> 50k pentalty isnt enough?
12:08:08  <ProZone> <V453000> that isnt the problem
12:08:18  <ProZone> <V453000> problem is other cargoes will start taking the SL
12:08:42  <ProZone> <V453000> ->more penalty :)
12:08:48  <ProZone> <V453000> ok this might work
12:09:37  <ProZone> <V453000> nope
12:09:51  <ProZone> <V453000> this needs reverser
12:18:56  <ProZone> <V453000> question is if wood trains will go to copper ore station now
12:42:20  <ProZone> <V453000> never ever make universal track pf stuff
12:42:30  <ProZone> <V453000> it has bugs in openttd, see nuts readme
12:42:36  <ProZone> <Vinnie> i know it isnt stable
12:42:52  <ProZone> <Vinnie> just figured that one out
12:42:54  <ProZone> <V453000> it is reliably unstable, not just not stable
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12:47:11  <ProZone> Dom_: alcove
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12:47:50  <ProZone> <Dom> hello
12:47:58  <ProZone> <Vinnie> hi
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13:03:48  <ProZone> <Vinnie> ah noo
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13:05:45  <ProZone> Dom_: gaming
13:05:46  <ProZone> <V453000> more trainz
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13:06:11  <ProZone> MrD2DG: gaming
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13:06:38  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oooh
13:06:40  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
13:06:42  <ProZone> <Dom> hi
13:06:52  <ProZone> <V453000> hi
13:06:58  <ProZone> <V453000> dont look at train orders
13:07:04  <ProZone> <Dom> x)
13:07:14  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> WTF :s
13:07:20  <ProZone> <V453000> I said. ..
13:07:23  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
13:07:42  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P There better be a pre-ordered train yard for that shit
13:07:52  <ProZone> <Dom> yep
13:07:55  <ProZone> <Dom> only one train :)
13:07:59  <ProZone> <V453000> only one train group
13:08:05  <ProZone> <V453000> simple SRNW SLs to make
13:08:07  <ProZone> <V453000> done
13:09:58  <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
13:10:09  <ProZone> <V453000> I set industries on funding btw
13:10:12  <ProZone> <V453000> so you can make them where-ever you want
13:10:18  <ProZone> <Dom> oh
13:10:36  <ProZone> <V453000> and eventually kill some with dozer
13:13:55  <ProZone> <V453000> idk who is setting up that PBS station but it wont work
13:14:02  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
13:14:05  <ProZone> <V453000> at least not this way
13:14:17  <ProZone> <Dom> i know it wont work
13:14:23  <ProZone> <Dom> but im trying to get it to work
13:25:21  <ProZone> <Vinnie> nice
13:25:48  <ProZone> <V453000> Dom why do you use 385k capacity dummy?
13:25:52  <ProZone> <V453000> why not use the same wagons?
13:25:54  <ProZone> <Vinnie> pretty bad link at SL01
13:25:56  <ProZone> <V453000> or at least 1st gen wagons
13:26:10  <ProZone> <Dom> it was just for testing xD have to change it yes
13:29:25  <ProZone> <V453000> ok
13:29:37  <ProZone> <V453000> why do you have 9 wagons instead of 8 now Dom :D
13:29:40  <ProZone> <V453000> I really fail to understand
13:30:32  <ProZone> <Dom> each normal trains has a capacity of 48k  that mean * 4 platforms 192k liters
13:30:36  <ProZone> <Dom> or am i wrong?
13:30:58  <V453000> well 9 wagons definitely cant fit on 4 trains
13:31:03  <V453000> that is the first thing
13:31:08  <V453000> @calc 48*4
13:31:08  <Webster> V453000: 192
13:31:36  <ProZone> <V453000> wtf am I missing
13:31:40  <ProZone> <Dom> idk :D
13:31:40  <MrD2DG> xD
13:31:42  <ProZone> <Vinnie> try 192/24 for the amount
13:32:04  <ProZone> <V453000> oh you do have 8 wagons
13:32:22  <ProZone> <Dom> idk they are not universal
13:32:23  <ProZone> <V453000> right that makes sense sorry
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13:32:39  <ProZone> Mazth: feudal
13:32:44  <ProZone> <V453000> I would just expect to have trains as long as platforms because sometimes trains can do multiple stops in 1 platform if they are shorter
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13:33:29  <ProZone> <V453000> elo
13:33:32  <ProZone> <Mazth> hi
13:33:35  <ProZone> <Dom> hi
13:33:37  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
13:33:47  <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello
13:33:47  <ProZone> <Dom> V453000:  is the connection right now?
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13:34:00  <ProZone> <V453000> should be I think
13:35:57  <ProZone> <Dom> :D:D
13:36:36  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> So each SL has a max of 2 primaries?
13:36:42  <ProZone> <Mazth> the trainz so cute ^^
13:36:44  <ProZone> <V453000> 4
13:36:46  <ProZone> <V453000> I mixed 2.
13:37:00  <ProZone> <V453000> you can do single cargo, you can do 4
13:37:02  <ProZone> <Dom> ahh thats how you do a pbs
13:37:04  <ProZone> <V453000> same logic
13:37:06  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh
13:38:21  <ProZone> <V453000> nice now it actually works
13:38:24  <ProZone> <V453000> they were too fast formerly :)
13:39:10  <ProZone> <Vinnie> sluggs look good in not gate
13:39:16  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
13:40:08  <ProZone> <V453000> ok this station is majorly wrong
13:40:18  <ProZone> <Dom> ?
13:42:12  <ProZone> <Dom> btw drop N has like 1k goods
13:42:39  <V453000> !rcon set found_town 1
13:42:43  <ProZone> <Vinnie> because its only transfer order
13:42:51  <V453000> !rcon set found_town 0
13:42:58  <ProZone> <V453000> yes or because the town didnt accept it
13:43:00  <ProZone> <V453000> right
13:43:15  <ProZone> <Dom> well there is no town xD
13:43:34  <ProZone> <V453000> its okay now.
13:44:00  <ProZone> <Mazth> what do the hell orders do?
13:44:10  <ProZone> <V453000> prevent implicit orders
13:44:27  <ProZone> <Mazth> ah ok
13:45:26  <ProZone> <Mazth> are we lucky they only put 8 bits in
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13:49:27  <Dom_> i'll be back later bb
13:49:31  <ProZone> <V453000> cya
13:49:37  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> BB
14:01:14  <ProZone> <V453000> need some help or explanations MrD2DG?
14:02:44  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Was just looking around, I think I've got it now
14:02:50  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> hmm we'll see :P
14:03:08  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
14:03:55  <ProZone> <V453000> I rewrote SRNW wiki page yesterday if you needed some general srnw info
14:03:57  <ProZone> <V453000> or just ask ofc
14:04:45  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Yeah I will do, Probably time to stop ignoring the advanced stuff :P
14:04:52  <ProZone> <V453000> lol
14:24:21  <ProZone> <Mazth> well u r in the prozone now :P so gotta do the adv stuff :P
14:24:34  <ProZone> <V453000> still a bitch though.
14:24:52  <ProZone> <Mazth> somethings are hard to change
14:24:55  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Ive been in a prozone for a while now even before it went public and resisted :D
14:25:10  <ProZone> <V453000> :d
14:25:29  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P I've done this type of thing before, just not much
14:32:21  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Ooh NUTS had an upgrade
14:32:33  <ProZone> <V453000> about 35 upgrades so far?
14:33:07  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Havent played in a while, any major changes?
14:33:13  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> (good)
14:33:19  <ProZone> <V453000> idk for how long :) see changelog
14:33:30  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P Ill do that later
14:35:07  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> BRB
14:37:37  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Back
14:41:25  <ProZone> <Mazth> omg just checked the changelog and there is a maglev local!
14:41:35  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Isnt that old
14:41:35  <ProZone> <V453000> :D yes
14:42:02  <ProZone> <Mazth> with full speed in cl1, pretty interesting
14:44:05  <ProZone> <V453000> well you can often get CL stuff in city networks :)
14:44:11  <ProZone> <V453000> CL1 there is just that much more fun
14:44:33  <ProZone> <V453000> ofc the trains do not have as high raw throughput as trains with normal CL
14:45:11  <ProZone> <Mazth> the mono was already quite effective but cl1 means the possibility of even better space efficiency
14:45:57  <ProZone> <Mazth> and when the cities get large it is hard to get high density along the edges
14:46:27  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hmm I think thats done
14:46:30  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Missing anything?
14:46:44  <ProZone> <V453000> ml penalty
14:46:50  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Ohbyeah
14:47:25  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> umm
14:48:07  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh
14:49:09  <ProZone> <V453000> +-
14:49:24  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> +-?
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15:00:39  <ProZone> <Mazth> well I am off! good afternoon =) ciao
15:00:45  <ProZone> <V453000> cya
15:00:45  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> BB
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15:06:17  <ProZone> <V453000> that mine is lonely MrD2DG
15:06:23  <ProZone> <V453000> needs some fruit friend :P
15:06:27  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Haha I was just about to start something else
15:06:31  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> And fruit too
15:06:37  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> You read my mind :s
15:06:48  <ProZone> <V453000> evul
15:06:51  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P
15:09:33  <ProZone> <Vinnie> desync
15:09:39  <ProZone> <Vinnie> at Lindhead Heights
15:10:37  <ProZone> <V453000> that is not the problem
15:10:48  <ProZone> <V453000> though I have no idea what do you mean by desync
15:11:06  <ProZone> <Vinnie> 1 load is waiting in transfer
15:11:16  <ProZone> <Vinnie> was
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15:37:01  <Maraxus> !password
15:37:02  <ProZone> Maraxus: incest
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15:37:19  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
15:37:22  <ProZone> <Maraxus> hi
15:37:25  <ProZone> <V453000> hy
15:48:29  <ProZone> <V453000> hm this should work, now to turn it into something more sophisticated
15:49:27  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Never seen multiple dummy layout before
15:49:49  <ProZone> <V453000> you mean the rubber thing?
15:49:55  <ProZone> <V453000> was even in psg121
15:50:06  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Im talking about Lindhead Heights
15:50:18  <ProZone> <V453000> well that is a srnw transfer
15:50:48  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> I know but I havent seen one in that form before
15:51:02  <ProZone> <V453000> not in this form I just tried this
15:51:10  <ProZone> <V453000> but srnw transfers have been built variously before
15:51:20  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh
15:51:30  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Anyway what rubber thing? :P
15:51:40  <ProZone> <V453000> Little Henpool Woods
15:51:44  <ProZone> <V453000> is multiple dummies
15:51:50  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh
15:52:08  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah, thats nice
15:55:37  <ProZone> <V453000> BTW
15:55:40  <ProZone> <V453000> NUTS is completely realistic now
15:55:46  <ProZone> <V453000> I have a real snail at home
15:59:05  <Sylf> :D
15:59:49  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
16:02:13  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P You have a pet snail?
16:03:25  <ProZone> <V453000> yes
16:03:46  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P Hmm okay
16:03:56  <ProZone> <V453000> the top star move it has so far is climb up the terrarium ceiling and shit down from there
16:04:04  <ProZone> <V453000> but it will be able to hunt people down soon
16:04:10  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:04:21  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> You are training it well
16:07:07  <ProZone> <V453000> brb feeding the monster
16:07:14  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol oki
16:08:20  <Sylf> I want pix :)
16:08:27  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:08:37  <ProZone> <V453000> it is small so far :)
16:08:47  <ProZone> <V453000> and currently the bitch is in the shell
16:08:57  <ProZone> <V453000> maybe later
16:10:42  <ProZone> <V453000> hm I hope its not dead :d
16:10:52  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:10:54  <ProZone> <V453000> should wake up soonish :)
16:11:39  <Dom_> !password
16:11:39  <ProZone> Dom_: flukes
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16:11:52  <ProZone> <Dom> hello
16:11:58  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hey
16:12:01  <ProZone> <Maraxus> hi
16:12:17  <V453000> either way it looks like,mod%3D9&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Z-a0UN6HCIbJswaM24CADg&biw=1920&bih=936&sei=a-a0UOHeMoXBtAbQjoDoDw
16:12:18  <Webster> Title: achatina achatina ghana - Google Search (at
16:12:25  <V453000> but smaller so far :)
16:12:40  <ProZone> <Dom> oh the idiot
16:12:54  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P That looks disgusting
16:13:04  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :)
16:13:21  <ProZone> <V453000> it is awesome
16:13:43  <ProZone> <Dom> is it listening to shredder now?
16:13:57  <ProZone> <V453000> no shredder is its name
16:14:03  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:14:06  <ProZone> <V453000> its listening to idk what
16:14:13  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
16:14:30  <ProZone> <V453000> but it it ins the shell giving zero shit about fresh food
16:15:10  <ProZone> <Dom> maybe it only likes salt or sulphuric acid?
16:15:16  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> So its more of a bitch snail then, hiding all the time
16:15:26  <ProZone> <V453000> you two have no sense for nature
16:15:28  <ProZone> <V453000> retards
16:15:31  <ProZone> <V453000> .
16:15:33  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:15:36  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
16:19:40  <V453000> IT MOVES :D
16:19:55  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Still a bitch tho
16:20:14  <ProZone> <Dom> a slimy bitch :D
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16:20:20  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> ^ :P
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16:20:42  <Dom_> !password
16:20:42  <ProZone> Dom_: curled
16:20:52  <ProZone> <V453000> you two are inconsiderate pieces of fecal matter
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16:20:58  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:21:12  <ProZone> <V453000> AND I officially hate you now
16:21:14  <ProZone> <V453000> deal with it.
16:21:20  <ProZone> <V453000> ( my snail hates you too )
16:21:22  <ProZone> <Dom> you can tell your snake to hunt us and bite us to death xD
16:21:25  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:21:27  <ProZone> <Dom> *snail
16:21:29  <ProZone> <V453000> it will
16:21:44  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Would take that thing years to get to the UK :)
16:21:54  <ProZone> <Dom> not that long to austria :D
16:22:04  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:22:06  <ProZone> <V453000> it is coming for you Dom
16:22:08  <ProZone> <Dom> but still 200+ k years
16:22:12  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:22:38  <ProZone> <V453000> you will die a quick and painful death
16:22:40  <ProZone> <Dom> you can try to mutate it by bringing it the tchernobyl ;)
16:23:02  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P
16:23:17  <ProZone> <Dom> maybe it will grow a hand with an axe
16:23:23  <ProZone> <Dom> or a shotgun
16:24:18  <ProZone> <Dom> aaaaaaaa
16:24:32  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol what?
16:24:42  <ProZone> <Dom> there was something moving in my room
16:24:52  <ProZone> <Dom> i thought it might be the killer snail
16:24:54  <ProZone> <Dom> xD
16:24:56  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Haha
16:25:22  <ProZone> <V453000> bich
16:25:25  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lmao
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16:26:03  <ProZone> <Dom> have you ever tried to put a parachute on it and drop it from somewhere high?
16:26:10  <ProZone> <Dom> para-snails :D
16:26:20  <ProZone> <V453000> no I teach it to fly
16:26:24  <ProZone> <V453000> more effective uphill
16:26:46  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P Thats true, good luck with that
16:29:29  <Dom_>
16:29:29  <Webster> Title: Cone snail eating a clown fish, Length: 23s, Views: 101034, Likes: 69
16:30:00  <ProZone> <V453000> o_O
16:30:10  <MrD2DG> Lol
16:30:20  <MrD2DG> Thats pretty gangster actually
16:30:25  <MrD2DG> Snail respect +1
16:30:30  <ProZone> <Dom> yep :D
16:31:01  <V453000>
16:31:01  <Webster> Title: Gary having a shower, Length: 24s, Views: 601020, Likes: 1175
16:31:03  <V453000> this is boss
16:31:38  <MrD2DG> Lool
16:31:42  <ProZone> <Dom> loool
16:31:53  <ProZone> <Dom> its getting horny by getting a shower xDD
16:32:01  <MrD2DG> xD
16:32:16  <ProZone> <V453000> im not sure how can you think about sex looking at a snail, but ....
16:32:21  <MrD2DG> Lmao
16:32:32  <ProZone> <Dom> i wasnt talking about me :D
16:32:38  <ProZone> <V453000> still
16:32:56  <ProZone> <Dom> well its tetancles were rising :D
16:32:59  <ProZone> <Dom> xDDD
16:33:54  <ProZone> <V453000> omg
16:34:08  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> ?
16:34:23  <ProZone> <Dom> the snail has run away xD
16:34:30  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Loool
16:34:36  <ProZone> <V453000> no it just dug itself under ground
16:34:42  <ProZone> <V453000> because it doesnt give a shit about you
16:34:44  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
16:34:50  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
16:35:09  <ProZone> <Dom> it should be afraid
16:35:19  <ProZone> <Dom> my neighbur is a frenchie :P
16:35:26  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:35:41  <ProZone> <Dom> nom nom nom
16:35:57  <ProZone> <V453000> my snail is invincible
16:36:00  <ProZone> <V453000> bring it fresh fucks
16:36:03  <ProZone> <V453000> french*
16:36:10  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
16:36:40  <ProZone> <Dom> so enough being mean to the snail :D
16:36:50  <ProZone> <V453000> or else
16:37:00  <ProZone> <Dom> or else it will jump in front of a bus :D
16:37:19  <ProZone> <V453000> more like wreck a bus of innocents
16:37:25  <ProZone> <Dom> :D
16:37:36  <ProZone> <V453000> by looking at it with a really, really mean look
16:37:37  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:37:44  <ProZone> <Dom> so gtgo i've got choir in 20 mins
16:37:46  <ProZone> <Dom> bb
16:38:00  <ProZone> <V453000> is choir some illness?
16:38:06  <ProZone> <Dom> no
16:38:08  <ProZone> <Dom> singing
16:38:11  <ProZone> <V453000> thats what I said?
16:38:14  <ProZone> <Dom> xD
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16:38:20  <ProZone> <Dom> and afterwards drinking :D
16:38:28  <ProZone> <V453000> sounds like medicaments
16:38:32  <ProZone> <Dom> yep
16:38:38  <ProZone> <Dom> anyway
16:38:40  <ProZone> <Dom> cya
16:38:42  <ProZone> <V453000> bye
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16:38:52  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> BB
16:44:00  <ProZone> <V453000> lol
16:44:03  <ProZone> <V453000> rail heaven :D
16:44:17  <ProZone> <V453000> lots of things atop of other things MrD2DG :D
16:44:29  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P Yeah i like building maze like :D
16:44:52  <ProZone> <V453000> neat and clean building style my ass
16:45:02  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD Its still neat
16:45:08  <ProZone> <V453000> maze.
16:45:18  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> You can have neat mazes :P
16:45:22  <Vinnie> !password
16:45:22  <ProZone> Vinnie: sweaty
16:45:28  <ProZone> <V453000> well thats new
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16:45:38  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> :P
16:45:41  <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello again
16:45:45  <ProZone> <V453000> hy.
16:45:48  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
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16:47:27  <ProZone> <Vinnie> my farm died?
16:47:41  <ProZone> <V453000> I still see 2
16:47:47  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> ^
16:48:03  <ProZone> <Vinnie> yeah but either someone rebuild it or am a bastard that didnt make LV cover the farm
16:48:33  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol I dont think anyone touched it
16:51:10  <ProZone> <V453000> ARS
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17:03:22  <ProZone> <V453000> MrD2DG: grain trains in ore pickup
17:03:25  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Just noticed
17:03:39  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Because the overflow is before (and penaltied)?
17:04:39  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> ..?
17:05:09  <ProZone> <V453000> grain cant go anywhere else if it fails going to its own station
17:05:24  <ProZone> <V453000> the reverser needs a penalized pf trap towards that as well
17:05:43  <Sturmi> !password
17:05:43  <ProZone> Sturmi: shifty
17:05:58  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh
17:09:12  <ProZone> <Vinnie> oops
17:13:33  <Sturmi> !password
17:13:33  <ProZone> Sturmi: rapids
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17:13:46  <ProZone> <Sturmi> hey
17:13:48  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
17:13:54  <ProZone> <V453000> hy
17:26:58  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hmm think its fixed
17:27:04  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
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17:37:12  <ProZone> <Vinnie> interesting
17:38:02  <ProZone> <V453000> what is? :)
17:38:22  <ProZone> <Vinnie> i need 2 two-way PBS at SL exit
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17:46:12  <ProZone> <V453000> idk why did you do that
17:46:30  <ProZone> <Sturmi> looked like missing
17:46:38  <ProZone> <V453000> why
17:46:56  <ProZone> <Sturmi> the feeder could not enter the station
17:47:06  <ProZone> <V453000> well that piece of track apparently wont fix it
17:47:20  <ProZone> <Sturmi> and when i look right you removed a different rail than i placed :D
17:47:26  <ProZone> <V453000> this will though
17:47:28  <ProZone> <V453000> trainsss
17:49:25  <ProZone> <V453000> wtf
17:49:34  <ProZone> <V453000> vinnie gives prio to his one fucking line of full trains
17:49:36  <ProZone> <V453000> instead of the ML
17:49:39  <ProZone> <V453000> I mean really?
17:49:42  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> xD
17:49:52  <ProZone> <V453000> they are full but why not make a damn choice
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18:13:15  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
18:13:33  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
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18:21:34  <ProZone> <V453000> MrD2DG: have you seen the last pzg?
18:21:41  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Nope
18:21:56  <ProZone> <V453000> do that. :P
18:22:22  <MrD2DG> Whats the archive link thing again? :P
18:22:31  <V453000> !archive
18:22:35  <V453000> !archives
18:22:41  <V453000> @archive
18:22:41  <Webster> | |
18:22:52  <V453000> also hall of fame is new :)
18:22:55  <MrD2DG> Thanks
18:23:04  <ProZone> <V453000> yw
18:24:02  <MrD2DG> That screen of a hub looks amazing :P
18:24:26  <ProZone> <V453000> read the description that will tell you what happened
18:25:15  <MrD2DG> LOL
18:25:22  <MrD2DG> Seems accurate :P
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18:40:23  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> That game looks really good, sucks that I missed it :P
18:43:21  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
18:44:03  <ProZone> <V453000> want to see something?
18:44:14  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Lol erm yeah
18:44:25  <ProZone> <V453000> why the fuck does !that go around the whole maze
18:44:30  <ProZone> <V453000> instead of going !there
18:44:52  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Wait how can it go there? :P
18:44:56  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Thats an exit?
18:45:02  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Oh
18:45:02  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> LOL
18:45:06  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Just realised
18:45:09  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
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19:16:00  <V453000> !dl win32
19:16:00  <ProZone> V453000:
19:18:07  <ProZone> <V453000> pf trap needs to have a correct connection Maraxus
19:18:14  <ProZone> <V453000> cant cross like that
19:18:28  <ProZone> <Sturmi> i wondered about this all the time :)
19:20:02  <ProZone> <V453000> same for the other trap
19:20:04  <ProZone> <Sturmi> and i think the entry signals must be 2way
19:20:26  <ProZone> <V453000> no the entry signals mainly need a waiting bay
19:21:38  <ProZone> <Maraxus> seems the station doesn't work very well...
19:21:52  <ProZone> <V453000> needs the waiting bays
19:22:23  <ProZone> <V453000> I wont torture you for long :)
19:22:27  <Liuk_Sk> !password
19:22:27  <ProZone> Liuk_Sk: waxier
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19:22:50  <ProZone> <Liuk Sk> hi
19:23:29  <ProZone> <V453000> hello
19:25:19  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
19:25:24  <ProZone> <Maraxus> hi
19:26:00  <ProZone> <Liuk Sk> hi MrD2DG
19:26:22  <ProZone> <Liuk Sk> hi Maraxus
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19:28:11  <mfb-> hi
19:28:21  <V453000> o/
19:28:25  <ProZone> <Maraxus> hi
19:28:28  <ProZone> <Liuk Sk> hi
19:29:09  <mfb-> !password
19:29:09  <ProZone> mfb-: buckle
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19:30:10  <ProZone> <mfb> why do we have "trap only to WP (not ML)" if they want to go to the wp anyway?
19:30:54  <ProZone> <V453000> goods trains would take SLs
19:30:56  <ProZone> <mfb> ah I see
19:31:06  <ProZone> <V453000> or raws wouldnt take SL
19:31:16  <ProZone> <V453000> depending on which penalty would be bigger
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19:34:42  <ProZone> <mfb> why do we have those long station names?
19:35:13  <ProZone> <V453000> just for order list orientation
19:35:15  <ProZone> <V453000> can be removed
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19:40:47  <ProZone> <V453000> hope you have some nice idea mfb because I am blank already :d
19:41:15  <ProZone> <mfb> thinking about it
19:41:57  <ProZone> <V453000> I think I have working transfer with just 1 not gate though
19:41:59  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
19:42:07  <Sturmi> !password
19:42:08  <ProZone> Sturmi: quails
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19:42:21  <ProZone> <mfb> its throuput is a bit limited, I might extend it ;)
19:43:03  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
19:43:21  <ProZone> <V453000> you mean improve the design or just spam more pieces?
19:43:35  <ProZone> <mfb> extend it to multiple platforms
19:46:03  <ProZone> <V453000> boring :p
19:47:13  <ProZone> <Sturmi> maraxus still here?
19:47:20  <Maraxus> yes
19:47:46  <ProZone> <Sturmi> look at your staion, most trains dont load
19:47:56  <ProZone> <V453000> could be just delay
19:48:00  <ProZone> <Sturmi> yep
19:48:18  <ProZone> <Sturmi> it is the delay
19:48:40  <ProZone> <V453000> lets solve it simply
19:49:48  <ProZone> <Sturmi> nice solution
19:50:18  <ProZone> <V453000> I have basically the same at Menwell City North already
19:53:36  <ProZone> <Maraxus> so in this case slower logic trains is better?
19:54:02  <ProZone> <V453000> not exactly
19:54:09  <ProZone> <V453000> if a slow logic train is lucky, the gane can trigger very quickly
19:54:17  <ProZone> <V453000> having a fast gate + delay is more precise
19:54:40  <ProZone> <V453000> because fast gate has about always the same response time, the delay ofc too
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19:56:57  <Mark> hai
19:57:27  <V453000> hia Mark
19:57:53  <V453000> Mark: I fucked up your article :P
19:57:57  <V453000> also join the pz.
19:58:03  <V453000> :)
19:58:14  <Mark> oh nice
19:58:23  <Mark> that needed some pretty serious updating
19:58:47  <V453000> yeah, also complete reorganization :) no more stuff about stations, that is covered in junctionary quite well
19:59:01  <V453000> ifk if you saw new Hall of Fame yet
19:59:07  <Mark> not yet
19:59:14  <Mark> want the original save for completeness?
19:59:26  <V453000> what original save
19:59:37  <Mark> for the srnw concept
19:59:42  <V453000> that isnt necessary I think
19:59:48  <Mark> probably not
20:00:00  <V453000> I even replaced the intro image :) this one has waypoints, the first one only had some signs
20:00:27  <V453000> uhm did I just tell you to join pz in pz channel? :D k
20:00:48  <Mark> :D
20:00:58  <Mark> yeah the old page was pretty basic to say the least
20:01:12  <Mark> id do some wiki work if i had time
20:01:17  <Mark> and wasnt so lazy
20:01:33  <V453000> :)
20:01:44  <V453000> :P
20:02:04  <Mark> oh yea i did see that
20:02:11  <Mark> yeah catagories is good
20:02:47  <Mark> !password
20:02:47  <ProZone> Mark: tuners
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20:03:00  <ProZone> <V453000> hi bitch
20:03:12  <ProZone> <Mark> oi negro
20:03:15  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hi
20:04:23  <ProZone> <V453000> come build some shit :) north 3rd area is completely empty
20:04:35  <ProZone> <Mark> probably not
20:04:41  <ProZone> <Mark> havent got my mouse here
20:04:59  <ProZone> <V453000> pffft
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20:10:17  <ProZone> <Mark> holy fuck at orders
20:10:21  <ProZone> <V453000> :>
20:10:24  <ProZone> <V453000> hello
20:10:34  <ProZone> <Mark> hi
20:10:53  <ProZone> <V453000> 8cargo srnw, problem? :) including products
20:12:36  <ProZone> <V453000> Maraxus why do you leave there gaps instead of stations :D looks weird
20:13:44  <ProZone> <Maraxus> might be because I've become used to building that way
20:14:06  <ProZone> <V453000> :D ok
20:14:54  <ProZone> <Mark> right i dont understand any of this really
20:15:44  <ProZone> <V453000> it is rather simple but it is a lot of shit
20:15:54  <ProZone> <V453000> trains run around until they find 100% load
20:16:04  <ProZone> <V453000> if no load, refit to next cargo
20:16:14  <ProZone> <V453000> if load, go drop, pickup secondary, drop secondary
20:16:28  <ProZone> <V453000> if secondary not 100%, return it back to pickup and go refit to next primary in cycle
20:16:43  <ProZone> <V453000> if secondary is successfully dropped, refit to the first primary and try again
20:17:17  <ProZone> <V453000> and SLs are basically done with 4 ML checks, where trains go straight to drop after they have 100% load at any of the checks
20:18:25  <ProZone> <V453000> makes sense now?
20:18:28  <ProZone> <V453000> or well at least some
20:18:31  <ProZone> <Mark> sort of
20:18:42  <ProZone> <V453000> see the Train orders: sign above plans
20:18:45  <ProZone> <Mark> not bad for a noobie as yourself
20:18:55  <ProZone> <V453000> there the system is written
20:18:57  <ProZone> <V453000> k :D
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20:22:15  <ProZone> <Mark> wouldnt you want injection to trigger if no empties refitted for a while?
20:23:22  <ProZone> <V453000> dont think that is necessary
20:24:28  <ProZone> <Mark> is any of this neccesary? :P
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20:25:08  <ProZone> <V453000> YES :D
20:29:15  <ProZone> <V453000> "I dont have a problem expanding a line, I just have a problem expanding the junction." This guy should be given a medal someday.
20:29:35  <ProZone> <Mark> :D
20:29:49  <ProZone> <V453000> he also uses SRNW stations with full load orders
20:29:53  <ProZone> <V453000> cause fuck logic
20:29:59  <ProZone> <Mark> interesting
20:30:15  <ProZone> <V453000> to say the least.
20:30:25  <ProZone> <Mark> he should go work for the german infrastructure department
20:30:35  <ProZone> <Mark> theyre too lazy to expand junctions aswell
20:31:05  <ProZone> <Sturmi> dont tell me, i see this every morning :/
20:31:29  <ProZone> <Mark> 3 lanes everywhere and then merges to 1 at junctions
20:32:12  <ProZone> <V453000> :D
20:33:31  <ProZone> <Sturmi> hmm, when i remember Prague, german infrastructure isnt that bad anymore :p
20:33:42  <ProZone> <V453000> yeah Prague is cute too
20:33:49  <ProZone> <Mark> when i remember indonesia prague is heaven
20:33:55  <ProZone> <Sturmi> hehe
20:34:06  <ProZone> <Mark> its still a fucking mess though
20:34:39  <ProZone> <V453000> at least we have proper beer so nobody gives a fuck
20:34:42  <ProZone> <Sturmi>  :D
20:34:44  <ProZone> * Mark remembers waiting 16 hours at the czech border in a snowstorm
20:34:59  <ProZone> <Mark> that you sure do
20:35:01  <ProZone> <Sturmi> they didnt let you in?
20:35:05  <ProZone> <Mark> they did
20:35:08  <ProZone> <V453000> wtf were you doing on the czech border for 16 hours
20:35:10  <ProZone> <Mark> it just took them a while
20:35:28  <ProZone> <Mark> they decided they'd check everyone that went skiing that year i think
20:35:59  <ProZone> <V453000> nice enough :d
20:36:10  <ProZone> <Mark> customs always seem to think all dutch take drugs with them on holidays
20:36:20  <ProZone> <Mark> which is mostly true
20:36:20  <ProZone> <V453000> :D
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20:43:41  <ProZone> <mfb> wtf
20:43:51  <ProZone> <V453000> ?
20:44:01  <ProZone> <mfb> made a prio instead of parallel detection
20:44:08  <ProZone> <V453000> :d
20:44:14  <ProZone> <mfb> which made everything more complicated by a factor of 2
20:45:31  <ProZone> <V453000> :D
20:45:37  <ProZone> <V453000> btw you are missing exits there
20:45:39  <ProZone> <V453000> idk who found that out
20:45:42  <ProZone> <mfb> I know
20:46:28  <ProZone> <mfb> who cares about exits
20:46:30  <ProZone> <mfb> :D
20:48:08  <Sturmi> i placed that litle sign :)
20:48:16  <ProZone> <V453000> EAT THEM
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20:48:35  <ProZone> <mfb> the exits?
20:48:39  <ProZone> <V453000> no sturmi
20:48:51  <ProZone> <V453000> it is his fault now
20:49:01  <ProZone> <V453000> (obviously)
20:49:05  <Sturmi> :D
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20:50:33  <[1]Mark> thefuck
20:50:41  <V453000> fuckthe
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20:51:12  <Mark> @op
20:51:29  <V453000> retard!
20:51:39  <Mark> @op
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20:51:42  <V453000> :(
20:51:57  <V453000> :)
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21:03:09  <ProZone> <V453000> hm you only detect if all bays are full and then release all at once?
21:03:20  <ProZone> <mfb> basically, yes
21:03:38  <ProZone> <V453000> that is usually pretty dangerous but we might be able to solve that with some delays and outer mechanisms later if something bad happens
21:04:08  <ProZone> <mfb> we'll see
21:05:50  <V453000> @calc 384/48
21:05:50  <Webster> V453000: 8
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21:15:11  <ProZone> <mfb> oh lol
21:15:18  <ProZone> <V453000> I dont see why yet
21:15:25  <ProZone> <mfb> detection fail
21:15:35  <ProZone> <V453000> ah
21:15:49  <ProZone> <V453000> yeah you cant detect that there
21:16:35  <ProZone> <mfb> hmm
21:17:14  <ProZone> <V453000> that isnt doing anything now is it
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21:17:21  <ProZone> <V453000> the X signal
21:17:29  <ProZone> <V453000> I know
21:17:43  <ProZone> <V453000> but that has no chance to be green when any train is nearby
21:17:57  <ProZone> <V453000> I guess that is a detection that if a bay is full, no transfer to start
21:17:57  <ProZone> <mfb> if the waiting bay is empty, it is green
21:17:59  <ProZone> <mfb> right
21:18:01  <ProZone> <V453000> well yeah
21:18:08  <ProZone> <V453000> that should be vice versa
21:18:14  <ProZone> <mfb> timing is wrong
21:18:16  <ProZone> <mfb> :(
21:18:16  <ProZone> <mfb> why?
21:18:19  <ProZone> <mfb> that is fine
21:18:50  <ProZone> <V453000> well you want the green in loading platform cause "absolute red" as I did it in transfers before
21:19:00  <ProZone> <mfb> no I don't
21:19:19  <ProZone> <V453000> ah I see now
21:19:21  <ProZone> <V453000> you changed it :)
21:19:35  <ProZone> <V453000> yeah that makes sense
21:20:01  <ProZone> <V453000> though
21:20:32  <ProZone> <V453000> when only loading platforms are full and transfer trains are ready to go, that releases the transfer trains too while pickup trains wont go as platforms are full in front of them
21:20:36  <ProZone> <mfb> the whole system is a bit big and messy
21:20:48  <ProZone> <mfb> no
21:20:58  <ProZone> <V453000> if all were with the combo -> 2way combo, yes
21:21:00  <ProZone> <mfb> that blocks new transfers
21:21:14  <ProZone> <mfb> hmm trains are too quick
21:21:48  <ProZone> <mfb> no those are fine
21:22:14  <ProZone> <V453000> these would have more effect but meh
21:22:32  <ProZone> <mfb> just the inner platforms were wrong
21:22:48  <ProZone> <V453000> ah k
21:24:18  <ProZone> <mfb> ah hmm
21:24:21  <ProZone> <mfb> the problem is the standing train
21:28:59  <ProZone> <mfb> good
21:29:02  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
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21:39:47  <ProZone> <Maraxus> gn
21:39:51  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> BB
21:39:57  <ProZone> <mfb> gn
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21:40:13  <ProZone> <mfb> oh, feeders > SRNW trains :(
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21:51:31  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Keep adding trains but NEVER ENOUGH :(
21:51:45  <ProZone> <mfb> they need some time to refit anyway
21:51:59  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hmm true
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22:01:25  <ProZone> <mfb> hmm... not easier
22:01:46  <ProZone> <mfb> but I think it is possible to build that quite compact
22:10:42  <V453000> :)
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22:11:25  <V453000> almost there
22:12:01  <ProZone> <mfb> we need more trains!
22:12:17  <ProZone> <mfb> copper has a full round of feeders waiting
22:12:23  <ProZone> <mfb> without SRNW trains
22:12:57  <ProZone> <mfb> wtf
22:18:14  <ProZone> <mfb> ok that is weird
22:18:40  <ProZone> <mfb> two trains with 96 tons capacity unloaded
22:18:47  <ProZone> <mfb> 4 trains with 48 tons capacity loaded
22:18:54  <ProZone> <mfb> I checked them, they were all full
22:19:01  <ProZone> <mfb> but 20 tons were left in the station
22:19:23  <ProZone> <mfb> well, first 9 and 20 after a second loading cycle
22:19:39  <ProZone> <mfb> the 3 loading cycles afterwards were fine
22:21:09  <ProZone> <mfb> that... just does not compute
22:22:23  <ProZone> <mfb> lol
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22:22:37  <ProZone> <mfb> we have partially filled trains on the ML
22:22:44  <ProZone> <V453000> what
22:22:46  <ProZone> <mfb> flatbourne woods
22:22:50  <ProZone> <mfb> see train 497
22:22:56  <ProZone> <mfb> oh refitted
22:23:20  <ProZone> <mfb> I saw 9, 11 and 15 tons
22:23:54  <ProZone> <V453000> Flatbourne Woods should be okay now
22:24:04  <ProZone> <mfb> I think we had the same with coal once
22:24:10  <ProZone> <mfb> eh.. wood sorry
22:24:24  <ProZone> <Sturmi> so the missing copper from flatbourne beamed magically to your station?
22:24:44  <ProZone> <mfb> well, the trains could not load the regular 48 tuns
22:24:50  <ProZone> <mfb> tons. because they already had some
22:25:02  <ProZone> <mfb> therefore, they loaded less, and I got that copper in my station
22:25:16  <ProZone> <Sturmi> o now that makes sense
22:25:46  <ProZone> <mfb> yeah... but find that bug :x
22:37:15  <ProZone> <V453000> gnight
22:37:18  <ProZone> <mfb> gn8
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23:04:19  <ProZone> <mfb> good night
23:04:25  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> GN
23:04:26  <ProZone> <Sturmi> gn
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23:04:33  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> Hmm I'm gonna go to
23:04:35  <ProZone> <Sturmi> me2
23:04:37  <ProZone> <Sturmi> gn
23:04:39  <ProZone> <MrD2DG> BB
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