Log for on 23rd May 2013:
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06:20:54  <V453000> !password
06:20:54  <ProZone> V453000: rimmed
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06:32:37  <dwarf> !password
06:32:37  <ProZone> dwarf: inters
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06:33:25  <ProZone> <V453000> moo
06:33:35  <ProZone> <dwarf> hi
06:35:21  <ProZone> <dwarf> mwahhaha, this is awesome :D
06:37:19  <ProZone> <V453000> grab a SL :P
06:38:13  <ProZone> <dwarf> ah, can't start playing right now, have to finish things tonight
06:38:21  <ProZone> <dwarf> but I'll be back for this
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06:39:41  <V453000> :)
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17:29:03  <Ryton_> hi V2
17:29:24  <Vinnie_nl> wanna play?
17:35:23  <Ryton_> yeah
17:36:47  <Vinnie_nl> !password
17:36:47  <ProZone> Vinnie_nl: adepts
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17:39:40  <Ryton_> ty
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17:40:30  <Vinnie_nl> !password
17:40:30  <ProZone> Vinnie_nl: adepts
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17:41:25  <Ryton_> !password
17:41:25  <ProZone> Ryton_: adepts
17:41:26  <Vinnie_nl> i assume you meant in the prozone? or do you want to play in the Public server?
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17:41:49  <ProZone> <Ryton> no i ment here :-)
17:41:55  <ProZone> <Ryton> ty
17:42:01  <ProZone> <Ryton> had an idea for a SNRW
17:43:07  <ProZone> <Ryton> whats the CL on this map anyway?
17:43:10  <ProZone> <Vinnie> 5
17:43:14  <V453000> 1!
17:43:21  <V453000> !password
17:43:21  <ProZone> V453000: adepts
17:43:26  <ProZone> <Ryton> on a sideline I mean :-)
17:43:32  <ProZone> <Ryton> 1exept for the first part? :-)
17:43:45  <V453000> seriously that question is so stupid that you should not be answered :)
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17:44:04  <ProZone> <Ryton> k fair enoguh
17:44:10  <ProZone> <Vinnie> he is very subtile today
17:44:12  <ProZone> <V453000> hy
17:44:26  <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello
17:44:32  <ProZone> <V453000> asking what CL do the fastest trains in the game have is really wrong :P
17:44:46  <ProZone> <Ryton> ok true :p
17:45:05  <ProZone> <Ryton> I doubt its 64 with  TL 64? :p
17:45:15  <ProZone> <V453000> guess
17:46:01  <ProZone> <V453000> I should seriously update the wiki article about CL because I  feel like nobody knows how it works
17:46:04  <ProZone> <V453000> :(
17:46:22  <ProZone> <Vinnie> it works with Clcalc command
17:46:32  <ProZone> <Vinnie> if that fails go to wiki and find the CL graph
17:47:15  <Vinnie_nl>
17:47:40  <ProZone> <Ryton> yeah I've seen it  a couple of times
17:47:42  <ProZone> <Ryton> but asking is easier :p
17:48:09  <ProZone> <V453000> trying is easiest
17:48:47  <ProZone> <Ryton> I'll try on a mainline here p:
17:49:13  <ProZone> <Ryton> bah I'm playing with another mouse, and that one is hypersensitive :'(
17:50:03  <ProZone> <V453000> cant help with that :)
17:50:29  <ProZone> <Ryton> it would be very scary if you could :p
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17:54:17  <ProZone> Maraxus: chaffs
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17:54:55  <ProZone> <V453000> haio
17:54:58  <ProZone> <Maraxus> hi
17:55:24  <ProZone> <V453000> look at train 821
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17:55:38  <ProZone> <Jam35> hi
17:55:49  <ProZone> <V453000> wtf there is more of them
17:55:51  <ProZone> <V453000> hi Jam35
17:56:01  <ProZone> <V453000> what the actual fuck
17:56:15  <ProZone> <V453000> tycoondemon built more dummies than he has available spaces in station
17:56:17  <ProZone> <V453000> really
17:56:47  <ProZone> <Vinnie> holy crap, i go find a desktop
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18:06:29  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
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18:09:25  <ProZone> <V453000> who is at Lesdale
18:09:28  <ProZone> <Ryton> me
18:09:30  <ProZone> <V453000> please do not use NUTS trains
18:09:32  <ProZone> <Ryton> anything worng?
18:09:38  <ProZone> <Ryton> which one is more suitable then?
18:09:48  <ProZone> <V453000> the same as the mainline trains?
18:09:54  <ProZone> <Ryton> k
18:10:00  <ProZone> <V453000> most notably the wagons
18:10:08  <ProZone> <Ryton> the other ones didnt fit the slugs
18:10:15  <ProZone> <Ryton> but probably the capacity is different?
18:10:21  <ProZone> <Ryton> was going to check that later :p
18:10:23  <ProZone> <V453000> ...
18:10:26  <ProZone> <V453000> 37 to 22
18:10:40  <ProZone> <Ryton> kk
18:10:42  <ProZone> <Ryton> 24
18:10:45  <ProZone> <Ryton> but good point
18:10:51  <ProZone> <V453000> right, 24 in case of slugs
18:13:05  <ProZone> <V453000> violence is not the solution!
18:13:24  <ProZone> <Jam35> yes it is
18:17:00  <ProZone> <Jam35> gah slow ass computer
18:24:26  <ProZone> <Ryton> wth, any idea why the right platform is very unatractive for the trains?
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18:24:39  <ProZone> <Vinnie> you need sexy ladies
18:25:13  <ProZone> <Ryton> + where is the injection depot?
18:25:23  <ProZone> <Vinnie> because there is a missing track at exit
18:25:23  <ProZone> <Ryton> I vaporised a dozen trains
18:25:37  <ProZone> <Ryton> thats on purpose
18:25:51  <ProZone> <Ryton> some trains are still leaving empty
18:25:53  <ProZone> <Vinnie> well as long as that track is missing you can't count on train pathfinder
18:25:59  <ProZone> <Ryton> kk
18:28:41  <ProZone> <Vinnie> lengthen dummy train by .5 tile so it fits entire station might help a little
18:29:19  <ProZone> <Ryton> oh ok. or unload at entry instead of far end?
18:29:41  <ProZone> <Ryton> k now it sok
18:30:31  <ProZone> <Ryton> loll
18:30:33  <ProZone> <Ryton> mainline is stuckk
18:30:43  <ProZone> <Ryton> sorry
18:31:01  <ProZone> <Ryton> hmm
18:31:15  <ProZone> <Ryton> not me :p
18:31:23  <ProZone> <Jam35> :)
18:32:06  <ProZone> <Ryton> pff
18:32:12  <ProZone> <Ryton> and my station still realeases empty ones
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18:32:50  <ProZone> <Vinnie> your dummy is to slow
18:32:56  <ProZone> <Ryton> yeah it iss
18:32:58  <ProZone> <Ryton> make it bigger?
18:33:08  <ProZone> <Vinnie> Use some Gator A engines
18:38:56  <ProZone> <Ryton> poff
18:38:58  <ProZone> <Ryton> still too slow
18:39:27  <ProZone> <Vinnie> gator alone is slow
18:42:40  <ProZone> <Ryton> wth, now some trains arent released :p
18:53:11  <tycoondemon> V453000
18:53:18  <tycoondemon> those escaped last night
18:53:32  <tycoondemon> but I did not have the time to get them from the network
18:53:38  <tycoondemon> I had to sleep
18:53:42  <V453000> doesnt matter when, having more trains than station platforms is just silly
18:53:45  <tycoondemon> !dl lin64
18:53:45  <ProZone> tycoondemon:
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19:12:34  <tycoondemon> it was not intentional V453000
19:12:43  <tycoondemon> !password
19:12:43  <ProZone> tycoondemon: navels
19:12:47  <ProZone> <V453000> I know, just fix it please
19:12:49  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
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19:15:21  <ProZone> <Vinnie> hi
19:16:15  <ProZone> <wss> hi
19:19:21  <Mazur> Hi ho.
19:19:27  <ProZone> <Ryton> hi MZ
19:20:11  <ProZone> <wss> hi all
19:20:14  <Mazur> About PS, everyone done with it, or should I up the train limit, or are there still problems to be solved first?
19:20:29  <ProZone> <wss> I wanted to play yesterday
19:20:35  <ProZone> <wss> but nobody was there
19:20:45  <ProZone> <wss> I still believe it is not finished
19:20:50  <Mazur> That's why i's gator, it goes at a slow gait.
19:20:51  <ProZone> <Ryton> it is not
19:20:53  <ProZone> <wss> but I am conservative
19:20:58  <Mazur> It's not supposed to.
19:21:09  <Mazur> I'm joined in, now.
19:21:33  <ProZone> <wss> I believe that I need the faster pc for that game
19:21:39  <ProZone> <wss> but I will try
19:21:42  <Mazur> But sine yesterday evening I've not seen it running, so I;ve no idea aout the status of the network.
19:22:09  <Mazur> I do know the train limit has been reached for over a day, now.
19:24:24  <ProZone> <wss> so too many oil wells too?
19:28:44  <ProZone> <wss> I removed the excess dummy trains
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19:31:37  <ProZone> <wss> why are some trains not staying and loading?
19:31:47  <ProZone> <wss> /name tycoondemon
19:32:06  <ProZone> <Ryton> hehe
19:32:09  <ProZone> <Ryton> tilde
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19:32:18  <ProZone> <Ryton>  =console, or shortcut in ?
19:32:44  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I am a noob
19:32:46  <ProZone> <tycoondemon>  but still
19:33:00  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> why are most trains not loading and just driving thrue
19:36:02  <TWerkhoven> non-stop orders?
19:36:06  <TWerkhoven> train allready full?
19:37:54  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> okay
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19:51:49  <ProZone> <V453000> o_O
19:51:55  <ProZone> <V453000> how did our ML managed to jam :D
19:52:45  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> it also did last night
19:52:51  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I had to rerout trains to fix it
19:54:10  <ProZone> <V453000> actually
19:54:16  <ProZone> <V453000> probably caused by the short trains
19:54:22  <ProZone> <V453000> did you make sure there is not a single one remaining?
19:54:36  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I am not absolutely positive
19:54:38  <ProZone> <Ryton> we could use more ML trians imho
19:54:52  <ProZone> <V453000> then be absolutely positive
19:54:58  <ProZone> <V453000> this game cannot afford any mistakes
19:55:27  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I will send all my dummy trains to the depot
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19:55:37  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> and delete them, then I am absolutely sure
19:56:08  <ProZone> <V453000> just move the few ones with which you are sure to a separate group
19:56:18  <ProZone> <V453000> hm no that wont work
19:57:01  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> ok
19:57:36  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I count 10 trains and I see 10 trains in the station
19:57:46  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so that meens I am good
19:57:56  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> since I only ever cloned dummy trains
19:57:58  <ProZone> <V453000> hoping that they had shared orders
19:57:58  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
19:58:28  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> well wen they clone
19:58:34  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> they keep orders allways
19:58:41  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so they always go to the dummy stations
19:59:51  <ProZone> <V453000> OH
19:59:53  <ProZone> <V453000> my bad
20:00:03  <ProZone> <V453000> ofc the real cause is empty trains on ML
20:00:27  <ProZone> <V453000> uhmmm
20:00:33  <ProZone> <V453000> why do your dummies have 2 full load orders
20:00:51  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> because I want them trains to go thrue the loading faster
20:00:57  <ProZone> <V453000> wtf?
20:00:59  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> because it is filled with all
20:01:01  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> oil
20:01:17  <ProZone> <V453000> your station releases a million of empty trains
20:01:19  <ProZone> <V453000> that ok?
20:03:05  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> that is just this last minute
20:03:16  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> before it had 70 million oil
20:03:50  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> you where talking about ml jam before the loading was empty
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20:04:34  <ProZone> <Ryton> hmm, my trains only load 85M
20:04:37  <ProZone> <Ryton> 85%
20:04:43  <ProZone> <V453000> must be 100%
20:04:49  <ProZone> <Ryton> ah no, my mistake
20:04:55  <ProZone> <V453000> :D panic
20:04:55  <ProZone> <Ryton> I just saw 87% as last loading stage
20:04:57  <ProZone> <Ryton> but they are full :p
20:05:04  <ProZone> <Ryton> anyways
20:05:10  <ProZone> <V453000> we will find out if they arent :)
20:05:12  <ProZone> <Ryton> can just lengthen road for dummy train
20:05:18  <ProZone> <Ryton> now its for sure 100%
20:06:00  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> say "I will go to a differnt box" this one is too slow
20:07:18  <ProZone> <Ryton> ok, works now
20:07:22  <ProZone> <Ryton> no reason to panic :p
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20:17:31  <tycoondemon> !password
20:17:31  <ProZone> tycoondemon: canoed
20:17:59  <tycoondemon> !password
20:17:59  <ProZone> tycoondemon: canoed
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20:18:21  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> better :)
20:19:52  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> sight
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20:49:32  <ProZone> <Ryton> can one tell me
20:49:38  <ProZone> <Ryton> why oh why some trains dont load?
20:49:49  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> yes I hade the same problem
20:49:51  <ProZone> <Ryton> ah nvr mind
20:49:51  <ProZone> <Ryton> me blind
20:54:40  <ProZone> <Ryton> afk
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21:16:56  <ProZone> <V453000> I think I fixed all the things which could possibly make ML jam
21:21:26  <ProZone> <V453000> yeah
21:21:40  <ProZone> <V453000> anything which breaks now is caused by not 100% loaded trains
21:21:51  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> cool
21:22:06  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> or tycoondemon maybe :P
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21:34:56  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so, more trains?
21:40:37  <ProZone> <V453000> sure thing
21:43:01  <ProZone> <V453000> the day people realize presignal bypass is wron
21:43:03  <ProZone> <V453000> g
21:43:05  <ProZone> <V453000> I will be happy
21:43:32  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> you be happy
21:44:48  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> what is pre signal bypass?
21:45:16  <V453000> @wiki presignal bypass
21:45:17  <Webster> Search - #openttdcoop Wiki -
21:45:31  <V453000> this trash
21:48:52  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so whats the problem?
21:49:30  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> why are you unhappy?
21:49:48  <ProZone> <V453000> well if you look at this image from that page
21:50:17  <V453000> there are 3 trains inside the station entrance
21:50:31  <V453000> but only 2 free platforms
21:50:36  <V453000> so where will the 3rd one go :)
21:50:40  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> yes
21:51:06  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so you are unhappy the person who made the screenshot did not learn in advance
21:51:09  <ProZone> <V453000> [it gets stuck]
21:51:15  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> that it was a bad Idea?
21:51:33  <ProZone> <V453000> no I was unhappy because I was in panic and almost thought you used it in your station
21:51:37  <ProZone> <V453000> but I was wrong
21:51:47  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> indeed
21:51:47  <ProZone> <V453000> it isnt just a bad idea, the concept is completely broken :)
21:52:13  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I realised I dindt want pre signals anyway
21:52:16  <ProZone> <V453000> in fact it can be used in some very speficic cases but that is very rare
21:52:24  <ProZone> <V453000> exactly
21:52:27  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I was not even touching presignal bypass
21:52:38  <ProZone> <V453000> the same entrance without presignals does the same, but cant block
21:52:48  <ProZone> <V453000> well almost the same, but usage is the same
21:55:45  <ProZone> <V453000> and awesome
21:55:49  <ProZone> <V453000> 1st line is jammed to shit
21:56:07  <ProZone> <V453000> something releases broken trains
21:56:31  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> where and what is a broken train?
21:56:37  <ProZone> <V453000> .....
21:56:44  <ProZone> <V453000> not fully loaded
21:59:34  <ProZone> <V453000> OH
21:59:49  <ProZone> <V453000> dead refineries certainly werent helping
22:00:10  <ProZone> <V453000> that could have been the cause too
22:00:10  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> yeah blame the not full trains
22:00:10  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> tha
22:00:20  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> that would explain why somethime a train would not load
22:00:34  <ProZone> <V453000> ah
22:00:36  <ProZone> <V453000> then yes
22:02:46  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so loading capacity of 1 station is not that great :O
22:31:32  <ProZone> <V453000> well, gnight
22:31:38  <ProZone> <tycoondemon> nnt
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