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18:50:41  <Wolf01> o/
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18:51:47  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me wants to prospect a nitrate mine
18:51:49  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> for fmsp
18:51:53  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> costs 2.1m
18:52:09  <Alberth> we have 7 ?  :)
18:52:23  <Alberth> ie np
18:52:33  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ha
18:52:36  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> not near any farms :P
18:52:45  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> yes
18:52:51  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> oil is very done
18:53:01  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> lots of farms
18:53:18  <Alberth> lots of food at stations too
18:57:21  <supermop> !pw
18:57:21  <coopserver> supermop: league
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19:05:49  <coopserver> <supermop> MAN. SUP?
19:05:54  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> bulk terminals
19:05:57  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> have to build
19:06:00  <coopserver> <supermop> WE HAVE ANY?
19:06:03  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> $$$ plus there's a layout bug
19:06:04  <coopserver> <supermop> HMM
19:06:08  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> we have one, I used it
19:06:23  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> where do you want one?
19:06:26  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I will build
19:06:38  <coopserver> <supermop> BY A FISH MKT
19:06:50  <coopserver> <supermop> SORRY ABT CAPS USING ACAD
19:06:51  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> town?
19:07:10  <coopserver> <supermop> DRADTOWN OR TUFINGLEY
19:07:29  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ok
19:08:25  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> supermop built
19:08:32  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> tufingley
19:08:45  <coopserver> <supermop> YESSSSS
19:10:53  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> such grain trams :)
19:10:58  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> sunpool
19:12:20  <Alberth> :)
19:12:37  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> looks like food is done
19:12:41  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> need fmsp
19:12:51  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> there are loads at finborough
19:12:55  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> dunno where to take them
19:13:09  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> station there is a bit odd, joined in a strange way
19:14:15  <Alberth> anywhere, where they are accepted :p
19:14:32  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> silver done :)
19:14:46  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> 2 years for fmsp
19:14:55  <Alberth> finborough vine yard?
19:15:01  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> seems fine
19:15:31  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> no helistations :(
19:15:39  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> default airports are really dumb :)
19:15:45  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I never use them, so I forget
19:16:22  <Alberth> tramz?
19:16:33  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> for supplies?
19:16:35  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> sure
19:16:40  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> not so good for flying though
19:16:44  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> :P
19:16:58  <Alberth> that wasn't going to fly anyway :p
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19:23:32  <Alberth> moar farm supplies needed :)
19:24:05  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me working on supplying more
19:27:10  <Dr_MEECH> need more fish
19:27:26  <Alberth> 87% is about 43K, so 7K needed
19:27:34  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> :|
19:27:45  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> 92% now
19:28:08  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I am delivering ensp to winthill
19:30:09  <Alberth> flying in emergency supplies :)
19:30:47  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ach
19:30:54  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> found some supply trams not refitted :)
19:30:57  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> mail isn't fmsp :)
19:31:06  <Alberth> :)
19:31:29  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> 99%
19:32:35  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> and now we should win
19:32:48  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> fireworks
19:32:53  <Alberth> \o/
19:32:55  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> 205 RVs
19:32:57  <coopserver> <supermop> DAMN MY HOVER CRAFT TOO LATE
19:32:59  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> 60 ships
19:33:13  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ok that was fun
19:33:26  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> Arctic Basic with the vehicles chain would also be good
19:33:29  <Alberth> bit messy terrain
19:33:31  <coopserver> <supermop> YEAH
19:33:38  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> it's a bit weird the arctic economy...
19:34:03  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> now what? :D
19:34:24  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me looks at all the different building styles
19:34:40  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> petford to sunnpool deserves a prize
19:34:45  <Alberth> euhm, this is not my usual building style :p
19:35:06  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> mostly this is my usual style :D
19:35:34  <supermop> I usually get distracted by passengers
19:35:55  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> good use of all transport types eh?
19:36:02  <Wolf01> Isn't possible to transfer and refit at a station?
19:36:03  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> only helicopters missing, I had some but scrapped them
19:36:10  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> wolf01 is
19:36:38  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> but have to remove 'leave empty'
19:37:15  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> dunno, cdist is neutral for me, except for pax
19:37:24  <Alberth> you get this style when aiming for goals, I guess
19:37:29  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> in NCG cdist would be a severe disadvantage
19:37:40  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> the latency on assigning cargo to routes is far too slow for NCG
19:37:45  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> we'd have lost
19:37:51  <supermop> refit to available is hard when its not clear which avaible cargo to pick up
19:37:52  <Alberth> good point
19:38:17  <coopserver> <supermop> like the grain at wondinghattan manor
19:38:17  <Wolf01> I'm trying to unload copper ore for transfer and refit to copper
19:38:23  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> refit to available onlyworks in very limited cases
19:38:39  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> which train # wolf01?
19:38:44  <Wolf01> 48
19:39:11  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> that should work?
19:39:28  <Wolf01> No, unloads copper ore, refits, refits reloads copper ore
19:39:35  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> hmm
19:40:09  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I know that transfer-and-refit has had bugs related to it before
19:40:15  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I thought they were all caught
19:40:30  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> usually I play with cdist on though
19:40:31  <Wolf01> Oh, it refitted the ESP car to copper
19:40:43  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> it won't refit the hoppers to copper, not a valid cargo for them
19:40:51  <Wolf01> It was a mixed train
19:40:52  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> so it will just reload the waiting cargo
19:41:09  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> so how would this game be improved by NRT? o_O
19:41:10  <Wolf01> Need to make 2 trains
19:41:17  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> or use different wagons
19:41:23  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> open wagons refit all cargo
19:42:11  <V453000> btw guys we brought .nightly back online
19:42:15  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me wonders about generating another game
19:42:17  <V453000> feel free to use that as well :)
19:42:37  <Wolf01> NRT... I don't think it improves something, it's just a visual distinction to better understand what happens
19:42:48  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> also we could have diesel trams
19:42:53  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> :p
19:42:58  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> super important
19:43:31  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me makes a new map
19:43:35  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> NCG again?
19:43:38  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> or SV?
19:43:45  <Wolf01> Yes, that would be cool, few catenary
19:43:47  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> SV is better for a longer slower game
19:43:57  <coopserver> <supermop> long slow ok with me
19:44:08  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> biab
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19:49:05  <Alberth> or did you want to see a little longer? :)
19:49:08  <Wolf01> I need to make more tests on refit and transfer
19:49:16  <Wolf01> Nah I played all the day
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19:51:48  <andythenorth> V453000: how do I grab a new save?,%2001-01-1980.sav
19:52:06  <Alberth> I still would to try a all-cargo backbone, where everything connects to
19:52:13  <V453000> !getsave,%2001-01-1980.sav.
19:52:13  <coopserver> V453000: Sorry, only .sav files are supported
19:52:16  <V453000> !getsave,%2001-01-1980.sav
19:52:16  <coopserver> Starting download...
19:52:17  <coopserver> Savegame successfully downloaded
19:52:18  <Alberth> connect, then press save?
19:52:19  <V453000> there
19:52:21  <V453000> !rcon ls
19:52:22  <coopserver> 0) .. (Parent directory)
19:52:23  <coopserver> 1) SV%20Vehicles%20Arctic%20Basic,%2001-01-1980.sav
19:52:24  <coopserver> 2) AndyLand2.sav
19:52:25  <V453000> !rcon load 1
19:52:26  <coopserver> 3) PZ%2326%2C%2019th%20Jan%202105.sav
19:52:27  <coopserver> 4) AndyLand.sav
19:52:28  <coopserver> V453000: You have 17 more messages. Type !less to view them
19:52:29  <coopserver> Starting new game
19:52:30  <coopserver> Now playing on #openttdcoop - ProZone Server ( (Version r27655)
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19:52:32  <V453000> there you go :)
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19:52:56  <andythenorth> !pw
19:52:56  <coopserver> andythenorth: bitset
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19:54:05  <andythenorth> thanks V453000
19:54:12  <andythenorth> supermop: game is up
19:54:21  <andythenorth> needs more than 2 players, SV tends to be hard
19:54:33  <supermop> ok
19:54:34  <andythenorth> and we’ve got a tertiary cargo
19:54:39  <andythenorth> so lots of building
19:54:50  <supermop> i'll be in and out
19:55:02  <supermop> !pw
19:55:02  <coopserver> supermop: bitset
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19:55:29  <V453000> you are welcome
19:55:36  <supermop> thanks V453000
19:55:38  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> vehicles, treham 20 years
19:55:49  <Wolf01> Sorry, updating online content, I'll have for a bit :P
19:55:51  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> lots of raw materials
19:56:04  <supermop> built an hq?
19:56:07  <andythenorth> nah
19:56:14  <supermop> what part of map?
19:56:24  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> for hq?  don't mind
19:56:28  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> game paused right now
19:56:32  <supermop> where out town is
19:56:36  <supermop> our
19:56:43  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> oh I allowed build-while-paused
19:56:45  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ha
19:56:58  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> my games are always set up that way, not really correct for MP
19:57:40  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> we need some kind of planning system :P
19:57:44  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> 'build here'
19:58:13  <V453000> you are welcome hoominz
19:58:21  <Wolf01> That's what I said yesterday
19:58:29  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> yup
19:58:44  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me puts some signs out
19:58:46  <Wolf01> Also, blueprint mode
19:58:58  <Wolf01> I use signs too, a lot of them
19:59:18  <Wolf01> Since you can write what, 24-30 chars on a sign?
19:59:24  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> yair
20:00:08  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> pyrites to condhattan
20:00:14  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> get metal and chemicals
20:00:19  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> chemicals to tyre plant
20:00:24  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> metal to vehicle factories
20:00:25  <Wolf01> Need to store signs outside savegame, xml format <Sign x="123" y="456">Content, how long you want</Sign>
20:00:33  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> xml :P
20:01:16  <Wolf01> The problem is to bind a signs file with the savegame :P
20:01:29  <supermop> where is condhattan
20:01:44  <Wolf01> Use the town list?
20:06:04  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> south west of the map
20:08:18  <happpy> hi
20:10:25  <andythenorth> hi
20:10:59  <andythenorth> Wolf01: are you getting content? o_O
20:11:02  * andythenorth is doing chores
20:11:15  <Wolf01> I just finished updating
20:11:41  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I will be a couple  of mins
20:11:57  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I'll play until 22.00 UK time or so, that's 23.00 for you I think :)
20:12:39  <Wolf01> As it's already 22.12 here, I think yes
20:13:01  <Dr_MEECH> !pw
20:13:01  <coopserver> Dr_MEECH: hashes
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20:13:42  <coopserver> <BiG_MEECH> hmm
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20:14:21  <coopserver> <BiG_MEECH> dat GOAL
20:14:47  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Really
20:15:34  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> why do I have team chat with enter
20:15:58  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Stupid settings ;)
20:17:11  <andythenorth> that bugs me
20:17:18  <andythenorth> never figured out how to change it
20:17:41  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Just go to settings and search for "team"
20:17:59  <andythenorth> dunno how to unpause :P
20:18:04  <andythenorth> !unpause
20:18:07  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Manually?
20:18:07  <andythenorth> !rcon unpause
20:18:29  <andythenorth> ideally on number of players > 1
20:19:42  <Jam35> !auto
20:19:42  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Oh my... I just unzoomed and saw the map
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20:20:08  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ?
20:20:13  <Jam35> what is the fewest amount of players you want?
20:20:16  <Jam35> 2?
20:20:18  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> 2
20:20:20  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> thanks
20:20:22  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Water, water all around
20:20:30  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> And mountains, mountains all in
20:20:31  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> forces more industry density
20:20:32  <Jam35> that is already set
20:20:35  <Jam35> so spec to pause
20:20:41  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> ta
20:20:49  <Jam35> no probs :)
20:20:58  <andythenorth> supermop: you in, we unpaused? o_O
20:21:03  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Also... that purple mine near Ponningpool
20:21:34  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> nice eh?
20:21:36  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> not :)
20:21:42  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> need some moneymakers
20:21:44  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> SV is expensive
20:21:52  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Trams or trains?
20:21:59  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> probably pax trains
20:22:05  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> that's my default anyway
20:22:15  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> there are some big towns in north
20:22:17  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> For pyrite
20:22:23  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> for pyrite - anything
20:22:27  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> trams, trucks, trains
20:22:45  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> we'll need trains to get the metal out and across half the map
20:22:51  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> so leave room for some big stations :)
20:24:43  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> I started eh
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20:24:50  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> truck
20:25:19  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> /me stupid
20:25:34  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Refit is not optional
20:25:52  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> I always put it in the orders now
20:25:55  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> saves mistakes
20:26:06  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> it's actually a better way imho
20:26:07  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Yup
20:26:21  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> If the vehicles support it yes
20:26:58  <coopserver> <supermop> making metal on eastern island to ship out
20:29:07  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> This game needs my stations on slope patch
20:29:11  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> yair
20:29:12  <Dr_MEECH> middle eastern island?
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20:32:04  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Money! (like medic!)
20:32:17  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> hovercraft are making money
20:32:20  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> not much yet
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20:32:49  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Pyrite trucks are doyng their part
20:33:10  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> we can get metal, and vehicle parts from this location
20:33:17  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> glass plant and tyre plant
20:33:21  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> biiiiig trains
20:33:46  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Yup
20:33:57  <Dr_MEECH> bull yon
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20:48:47  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> PIPE!
20:48:50  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> :D
20:49:13  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> I hope I put signals right
20:49:20  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> they're hard to see
20:49:23  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> total PITA
20:51:22  <Dr_MEECH> I layed the pipe
20:52:26  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Need 160M for a pump
20:52:36  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> buy smaller, upgrade with profit?
20:53:46  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Meh, I needed to build the other branch first
20:53:52  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> :)
20:53:54  <supermop> need pyrite train
20:54:44  <supermop> someone buy me a chinook pls
20:54:52  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> where?
20:55:02  <supermop> island to east
20:55:51  <supermop> then chems go to that alu plant or something
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20:56:21  <supermop> if we had the dosh a slammer to run about keeping town ratings up would be nice too
20:56:28  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> bus
20:56:34  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> oh you have stations already
20:58:32  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> supermop
20:58:37  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> got enough money...
21:01:53  <Dr_MEECH> lol
21:02:00  <Dr_MEECH> CHINOOK
21:02:28  <Dr_MEECH> baller lift vehicle
21:02:31  <Dr_MEECH> do blimps
21:02:49  <supermop> better value to buy a little bear with one or two wagons instead of slammer?
21:03:00  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> no blimps :(
21:03:04  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> seems I missed AV9
21:03:16  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> supermop potato/potato
21:04:12  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Shit, signals
21:04:28  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> PIPE signals are horrible
21:04:51  <Dr_MEECH> blimps = future
21:04:57  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> +1
21:05:05  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> blimp tramz
21:06:36  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> pyrite processor is one of my favourite sprites
21:07:11  <coopserver> <supermop> where my eastern island metal to go ?
21:07:18  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> nowhere yet
21:07:26  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> we need serious $$$$ to build verhicle factories
21:07:40  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> £1.6m per time
21:07:47  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> at treham
21:08:01  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> but the metal can ship out down east side of map, boats
21:11:09  <supermop> anywhere to ship it now for $$?
21:11:27  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> Dinnford?
21:11:38  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> station walk from the coast a bit
21:29:57  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> /me must to sleep :)
21:30:02  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Ok
21:30:23  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> back tomorrow
21:30:25  <coopserver> <andythen0rth> bye
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21:35:01  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> D: cities hate me
21:35:25  <happpy> doo  tree's
21:35:36  <Wolf01> Not enough
21:36:11  <happpy> ok try  remov the  all trees and port them back
21:38:35  <Wolf01> Was able to manage a "poor" and extended the station
21:39:44  <happpy> .nice
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22:12:15  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Supermop, do you think is a good idea to start funding a vehicle factory?
22:12:26  <supermop> we have enough cash?
22:12:31  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Seem so
22:12:48  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> But the terrain...
22:13:29  <supermop> is the valley close enough to the town
22:13:30  <supermop> ?
22:13:39  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> I hope so
22:13:59  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Nope
22:14:04  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Too away
22:14:19  <supermop> what abt on other side of mountain
22:14:22  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Yup
22:14:52  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> The local authority stops at the top of the mountain
22:15:24  <supermop> damn thats big
22:15:33  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Yeah
22:16:05  <supermop> i think it counts if its outside of L.A. so long as it is closer to town than any other town
22:16:10  <supermop> like station name rules?
22:16:28  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Could be
22:18:03  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> We have only 11 years left :o
22:18:22  <coopserver> <supermop> scrap mtl to alu plant
22:33:22  <supermop> Wolf01: what next to do?
22:33:30  <Wolf01> Money?
22:34:02  <Wolf01> We should start to use that factory
22:34:53  <supermop> take veh. to the supply yard by the scrap yards
22:35:02  <supermop> then get eng sup?
22:35:43  <coopserver> <Wolfolo> Kk
22:41:34  <supermop> need to start making tyres
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22:49:40  <Wolf01> Lost connection
22:49:52  <Wolf01> Btw, bed time
22:49:55  <supermop> ok
22:49:58  <supermop> im leaving work
22:49:58  <Wolf01> 'night all
22:50:02  <supermop> see you tmw
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