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03:19:06 <Stablean> *** RMFuller has left the game (connection lost) 04:37:29 <Stablean> *** heryoung joined the game 04:38:35 <Stablean> *** heryoung has left the game (leaving) 05:27:20 <Stablean> *** Motti joined the game 05:27:32 <Stablean> *** Motti has started a new company (#1) 05:27:34 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 05:35:42 <Stablean> *** Motti has left the game (leaving) 05:35:42 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 06:09:55 <Stablean> *** Kodak joined the game 06:11:28 <Stablean> *** Kodak has left the game (leaving) 06:15:16 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:15:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:15:22 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 08:15:24 <Stablean> *** RoyalDigga joined the game 08:17:28 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 08:17:29 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 08:20:57 <Stablean> *** RoyalDigga has left the game (leaving) 08:20:57 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 08:23:32 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:23:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 09:08:36 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 09:08:36 <Stablean> *** RoyalDigga joined the game 09:09:52 <Stablean> *** RoyalDigga has left the game (leaving) 09:09:52 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 09:11:44 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to kynic 09:12:58 <Stablean> *** kynic has left the game (leaving) 09:14:29 <Stablean> *** kynic joined the game 09:14:56 <Stablean> *** kynic has left the game (leaving) 10:07:28 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:07:53 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 10:12:07 <Ammler> !rcon save toyland_end.sav 10:12:08 <Stablean> Ammler: Saving map... 10:12:08 <Stablean> Ammler: Map successfully saved to toyland_end.sav.sav 10:12:21 <Ammler> !rcon newgame 10:12:28 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:12:40 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:12:42 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:12:43 <Rubidium> save + load 10:12:57 <Ammler> planetmaker: flat arctic? 10:13:04 <Ammler> we had that already :-P 10:13:27 <Ammler> !rcon debug_level 10:13:27 <Stablean> Ammler: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0' 10:13:31 <Ammler> !save 10:13:31 <Stablean> Saving game... 10:13:36 <Ammler> !rcon load game.sav 10:13:38 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:13:43 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:13:44 <Rubidium> thanks 10:14:17 <Ammler> but I will restart again, if noone does join until I am back from food 10:14:56 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:14:58 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 10:14:58 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:16:00 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 10:16:25 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #2 10:16:25 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:16:34 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 10:16:36 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:19:55 <planetmaker> Ammler, I thought it'd be not so flat, bug with huge variety distribution 10:19:57 <planetmaker> but whatever 10:20:26 <Ammler> yeah, it isn't optimal, because forests needs snow for example 10:20:32 <Ammler> so there are no forests 10:22:23 <Ammler> I can edit the cfg and just type !rcon newgame and the new settings will be used? 10:23:25 <Rubidium> depends on that reload config setting IIRC 10:24:01 <planetmaker> Ammler, try :-) 10:26:04 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:26:04 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:26:10 <Ammler> !rcon newgame 10:26:14 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:26:21 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:26:22 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:27:22 <Stablean> *** Çağdaş joined the game 10:27:29 <Stablean> *** Çağdaş has left the game (leaving) 10:27:32 <Ammler> !rcon newgame 10:27:33 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:27:35 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (desync error) 10:27:38 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:27:45 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:27:45 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:27:59 <Ammler> seems not to work 10:28:06 <Stablean> Server closed down by admin 10:28:11 <Stablean> Server has exited 10:28:12 *** Stablean has quit IRC 10:29:59 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:29:59 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 10:29:59 <Stablean> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 10:29:59 <Stablean> Landscape: arctic 10:29:59 <Stablean> Dimensions: 256x1024 10:29:59 <Stablean> Starting year: 1950 10:29:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 10:30:30 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:30:31 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:30:47 <Ammler> ugly map 10:30:48 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 10:30:54 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level 10:30:54 <Stablean> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0' 10:30:58 <Ammler> but I give up... 10:31:04 <planetmaker> why? 10:31:08 <planetmaker> !rcon newgame 10:31:10 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:31:11 <Ammler> hmm, we could make tropc 10:31:11 <planetmaker> :-D 10:31:12 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (desync error) 10:31:15 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:31:16 <planetmaker> :-O 10:31:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: the map doesn't change 10:31:29 <Ammler> always same shit 10:31:33 <planetmaker> this is patched...?! 10:31:38 <planetmaker> why was there desync? 10:31:46 <Ammler> newgame does casuse that 10:31:56 <planetmaker> oh. 10:31:59 <Stablean> Server closed down by admin 10:32:04 <Stablean> Server has exited 10:32:05 *** Stablean has quit IRC 10:32:08 <planetmaker> Does Rubidium know that? :-) 10:32:11 <Ammler> @man town_name 10:32:13 <Webster> Search results - OpenTTD - http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=town_name 10:33:48 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:33:48 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 10:33:48 <Stablean> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 10:33:48 <Stablean> Landscape: tropic 10:33:48 <Stablean> Dimensions: 256x1024 10:33:49 <Stablean> Starting year: 1950 10:33:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 10:34:07 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:34:07 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:34:30 <Ammler> same ugly 10:34:37 <Ammler> but fits better 10:35:10 <Ammler> the map generating on the cfg is set quite bad. 10:35:23 <planetmaker> I guess so 10:35:23 <Stablean> Server closed down by admin 10:35:28 <Stablean> Server has exited 10:35:29 *** Stablean has quit IRC 10:35:30 <planetmaker> eh... :-) 10:36:04 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:36:04 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 10:36:04 <Stablean> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 10:36:04 <Stablean> Landscape: tropic 10:36:04 <Stablean> Dimensions: 256x1024 10:36:04 <Stablean> Starting year: 1950 10:36:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 10:36:21 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:36:21 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:36:34 <Ammler> so crap 10:36:37 <Ammler> give up def 10:36:54 <Ammler> looks like I edit a wrong cfg 10:37:01 <planetmaker> :-D 10:37:18 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:37:18 *** Webster sets mode: +o SmatZ 10:38:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: it looks like :-P 10:38:08 <Ammler> but I didn't :-) 10:38:18 <planetmaker> :-) 10:41:14 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 10:41:26 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 10:41:42 <Stablean> *** Dowjohnsny joined the game 10:41:46 <planetmaker> hm... 10:42:02 <planetmaker> !rcon save stable_002_start 10:42:03 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 10:42:03 <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to stable_002_start.sav 10:42:06 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level 10:42:07 <Stablean> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0' 10:42:16 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 10:42:18 <planetmaker> !rcon save stable_002_start 10:42:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 10:42:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to stable_002_start.sav 10:42:30 <planetmaker> !rcon load stable_002_start.sav 10:42:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:42:35 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 10:42:35 <Stablean> *** Dowjohnsny joined the game 10:42:43 <Stablean> <Dowjohnsny> ? 10:42:47 <Stablean> <Dowjohnsny> what happened? 10:42:47 <planetmaker> sorry for re-load :-) Logging required it. 10:42:58 <planetmaker> *debug - logging 10:43:22 <Stablean> <Dowjohnsny> h...now i cant construct anything 10:43:30 <planetmaker> we're hunting some elusive bug ;-) 10:43:37 <planetmaker> you're possibly spectator? 10:43:57 <Stablean> <Dowjohnsny> well i could construct before u re-loaded it 10:44:05 <Rubidium> planetmaker: know what? 10:44:10 <Stablean> <Dowjohnsny> anyway i'll try again 10:44:14 <Stablean> *** Dowjohnsny has left the game (leaving) 10:44:22 <planetmaker> Rubidium, desync upon !newgame 10:44:24 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:44:24 <Stablean> *** Dowjohnsny joined the game 10:44:42 <planetmaker> read a bit back here and you'll see that 10:45:46 <planetmaker> 12:31h 10:46:00 <planetmaker> 12:27h 10:46:35 <planetmaker> I fear that it isn't properly logged though. But given the setting it might be quite easy to re-produce locally 10:46:36 <Rubidium> newgame should kick everyone before restarting; no idea how a desync can ever happen in that case 10:46:51 <planetmaker> Just use a different cfg than before, I think, might suffice 10:47:11 <planetmaker> maybe not even that... 10:48:47 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 10:56:34 <Rubidium> but then there should have been gazillions of desyncs given that reload config file feature 10:57:01 <Stablean> *** Abraxas joined the game 10:57:11 <Stablean> *** HD joined the game 10:57:26 <Stablean> *** Kermitos joined the game 10:57:38 <Stablean> <HD> hi 10:57:40 <planetmaker> Rubidium, I dunno... maybe a consequence of the latest change(s) there? 10:57:52 <planetmaker> We can try again... 10:58:00 <Stablean> *** Kermitos has left the game (leaving) 10:58:15 <planetmaker> !rcon save arcitc_002_mid1 10:58:15 <Stablean> *** JP joined the game 10:58:15 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 10:58:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: say_client 21 "Welcome JP" 10:58:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: say_client 21 "You are playing on \"#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)\"" 10:58:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: say_client 21 "House rules are at www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable" 10:58:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: say_client 21 "say !help for more information" 10:58:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 3 more messages 10:58:42 <planetmaker> ^^ interesting ap+ bug... 10:59:01 <Ammler> known... 10:59:12 <planetmaker> folks I'll shortly interrupt game. And reload the game afterwards in a minute 10:59:16 <planetmaker> !rcon newgame 10:59:20 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:59:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:59:20 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:59:33 <planetmaker> hm... interesting 10:59:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 10:59:39 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 10:59:54 <Stablean> *** HD joined the game 10:59:56 <Stablean> <HD> hi 11:00:07 <Stablean> <Tobi corp> #hi 11:00:24 <planetmaker> sorry, I'll have to interrupt you again, I guess... testing stuff... 11:00:27 <planetmaker> !rcon newgame 11:00:29 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 11:00:31 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp has left the game (desync error) 11:00:34 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 11:00:38 <Stablean> *** HD joined the game 11:00:39 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 11:00:40 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 11:00:40 <planetmaker> ^^^ there Rubidium 11:00:47 <planetmaker> you could fetch data, it should be logged 11:00:47 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp has left the game (leaving) 11:00:47 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 11:00:59 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 11:01:02 <Stablean> *** Abraxas joined the game 11:01:38 <planetmaker> !rcon load arcitc_002_mid1.sav 11:01:38 <Rubidium> planetmaker: hmm, that's bad :( 11:01:41 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 11:01:43 <Stablean> *** Abraxas joined the game 11:01:47 <Stablean> *** HD joined the game 11:01:57 <Rubidium> so it's probably a bug in the "new" code 11:02:01 <Stablean> <HD> what Are you doing? 11:02:05 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 11:02:06 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 11:02:07 <Rubidium> something like not cleaning the queue properly or so 11:02:13 <Stablean> *** Abraxas has started a new company (#7) 11:02:23 <Stablean> <HD> could i play? 11:02:27 <planetmaker> sorry to say, but yes, I'd assume that as it was not observed before 11:02:33 <planetmaker> but... I'd not bet my life on it. 11:02:50 <planetmaker> HD: I think so that I can leave it run now 11:02:56 <Stablean> *** HD has joined company #4 11:03:04 <planetmaker> thanks for your patience. And continuous joins. It was important. 11:03:20 <planetmaker> (also that you folks kept joining to the server, or especially so) 11:03:26 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp has left the game (leaving) 11:03:37 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 11:03:41 <Stablean> <HD> thanks 11:03:44 <planetmaker> only then it allowed testing for the desync bug we are hunting for. 11:04:55 <planetmaker> hehe. while we run the stable server we expect users to help us with hunting bugs, if applicable :-) 11:13:07 <Ammler> !players 11:13:09 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 34 (Brown) is Abraxas, in company 7 (Vallclara Transport) 11:13:09 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 35 (Blue) is HD, in company 4 (HD Transport) 11:13:10 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 40 (Orange) is Tobi corp, in company 1 (Tobi corp Transport) 11:13:28 <Ammler> !rcon companies 11:13:28 <Stablean> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Tobi corp Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 106617 Loan: 300000 Value: 1 (T:3, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:13:29 <Stablean> Ammler: #:4(Blue) Company Name: 'HD Transport' Year Founded: 1951 Money: 19641 Loan: 40000 Value: 30298 (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 11:13:29 <Stablean> Ammler: #:7(Brown) Company Name: 'Vallclara Transport' Year Founded: 1951 Money: 61946 Loan: 300000 Value: 1 (T:4, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 11:13:52 <Ammler> Abraxas, protect your company 11:14:40 <Ammler> !setdef 11:14:40 <Stablean> *** Ammler has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 11:14:51 <Ammler> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 11:14:51 <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'vehicle_breakdowns' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 2) 11:14:54 <Ammler> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 0 11:24:33 <Stablean> *** Abraxas has left the game (leaving) 11:25:00 <Stablean> *** Plot SPAIN joined the game 11:27:59 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 11:28:03 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#5) 11:28:26 <Stablean> *** dwarf joined the game 11:28:39 <Stablean> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 11:28:52 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 11:29:26 <Stablean> *** Cepkii joined the game 11:31:45 <Stablean> *** Cepkii has left the game (leaving) 11:34:32 <Stablean> <Amm1er> Tobi corp: we use yapf :-) 11:35:04 <Stablean> <Amm1er> trains find the way self, no need for wps in the orders :-) 11:35:45 <planetmaker> TTD habbit, I guess :-P 11:36:25 <Stablean> <Amm1er> he has already a huge network 11:37:16 <Stablean> <Amm1er> Plot SPAIN: what is the idea to tunnel one line and have the other line above? 11:37:42 <Stablean> <Amm1er> that makes crossing for competitiors quite ugly 11:40:02 <Stablean> <Amm1er> silent gamers :-/ 11:40:11 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 11:40:13 <Stablean> <Tobi corp> woot 11:40:16 <Ammler> :-) 11:41:03 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 11:45:48 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 11:52:24 <Stablean> *** Plot SPAIN has left the game (leaving) 11:58:07 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 11:58:27 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#5) 11:58:43 <Stablean> <Player> WHEN THIS GAME OVERS??? AT 2000 ? 11:59:28 <planetmaker> somewhen. No hard ending date defined 11:59:37 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:09:07 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 12:11:18 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #3 12:11:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:12:02 <Ammler> !screen 12:12:04 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0002E8BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0002E8BE.png 12:13:59 <Stablean> *** arn008 joined the game 12:14:21 <Ammler> !players 12:14:24 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 60 (Red) is arn008, in company 3 (arn008 Transport) 12:14:24 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 35 (Blue) is HD, in company 4 (HD Transport) 12:14:24 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 40 (Orange) is Tobi corp, in company 1 (Tobi corp Transport) 12:15:34 <Stablean> *** arn008 has left the game (leaving) 12:17:54 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 12:18:06 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #3 12:23:33 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 12:24:37 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has changed his/her name to new-name 12:24:55 <Stablean> *** new-name has changed his/her name to Wotan 12:25:07 <Stablean> <HD> bye 12:25:15 <Stablean> *** HD has left the game (leaving) 12:27:59 <Stablean> *** Wotan has started a new company (#4) 12:28:32 <Stablean> *** Jessie joined the game 12:29:45 <Stablean> *** Jessie has left the game (leaving) 12:29:49 <Stablean> *** Dizel joined the game 12:30:43 <Stablean> <Dizel> /rules 12:54:01 <Ammler> Dizel: play fair 13:03:40 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 13:04:29 <Stablean> *** Player #2 has joined spectators 13:05:09 <Stablean> *** Player #2 has left the game (leaving) 13:06:05 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (leaving) 13:06:51 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 13:07:04 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined company #5 13:13:16 <Ammler> !screen 13:13:18 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000EA65: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0000EA65.png 13:21:46 <Stablean> *** Wotan has joined spectators 13:21:58 <Stablean> *** Wotan has joined company #4 13:24:18 <Stablean> *** Wotan has left the game (leaving) 13:24:49 <V453000> wee :D tropic 13:25:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 13:25:35 <Stablean> <V453000> awww ... Ammler, stretched map with variable distribution is uglyy 13:26:11 <Ammler> V453000: fully agree 13:26:56 <Stablean> *** Player #2 has joined spectators 13:28:05 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:28:45 <Stablean> *** Skyclaw joined the game 13:29:41 <Stablean> *** Player #2 has left the game (leaving) 13:30:09 <Stablean> *** Skyclaw has left the game (leaving) 13:34:38 <Stablean> *** Cris joined the game 13:36:09 <Ammler> !screen 13:36:11 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0003985C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0003985C.png 13:40:06 <Stablean> *** SERGEY_ZP joined the game 13:40:26 <Ammler> !screen 13:40:28 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0001289C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0001289C.png 13:41:18 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp has left the game (leaving) 13:44:03 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 13:44:06 <Stablean> *** Player #3 has left the game (leaving) 13:44:23 <Stablean> <Amm1er> set company pw, please :-) 13:44:50 <Stablean> <Dizel> kk 13:44:52 <Stablean> <Dizel> set 13:44:54 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has joined spectators 13:44:59 <Stablean> <Amm1er> fine :-) 13:47:12 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 13:47:25 <V453000> Cris noobbashing? :P 13:51:10 <Stablean> *** SERGEY_ZP has started a new company (#8) 13:53:20 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 14:03:24 <Stablean> *** JohnTTD joined the game 14:18:13 <Stablean> *** Cris has left the game (leaving) 14:18:34 <Ammler> !screen 14:18:37 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000D57F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0000D57F.png 14:19:17 <Stablean> <JohnTTD> algun espanol? 14:19:36 <Ammler> English only :-) 14:19:51 <Stablean> <JohnTTD> ahm ok 14:20:02 <Stablean> <JohnTTD> i see the cities are spanish 14:20:05 <Ammler> feel free to talk whatever in private chat 14:20:46 <Ammler> catalan 14:20:58 <Stablean> <JohnTTD> yes 14:21:46 <Rubidium> !players 14:21:48 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 62 (Pink) is Player, in company 3 (uhu transport) 14:21:48 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 94 (Dark Green) is JohnTTD, in company 9 (JohnTTD Transport) 14:21:48 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 68 (Purple) is Dizel, in company 6 (Dizel Transport) 14:21:48 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 84 is Player #2, a spectator 14:21:48 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 86 (Red) is SERGEY_ZP, in company 8 (SERGEY_ZP Transport) 14:22:06 <Rubidium> no tobi :( 14:22:30 <Ammler> [15:41] <Stablean> *** Tobi corp has left the game (leaving) 14:23:28 <Rubidium> I can't reproduce that desync :( 14:25:10 <Stablean> *** SERGEY_ZP has left the game (leaving) 14:25:43 <Ammler> the one on newgame? 14:26:03 <Rubidium> yeah 14:26:13 <Rubidium> !rcon set frame_freq 14:26:13 <Stablean> Rubidium: Current value for 'frame_freq' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 100) 14:26:20 <Rubidium> !rcon set sync_freq 14:26:20 <Stablean> Rubidium: Current value for 'sync_freq' is: '100' (min: 0, max: 100) 14:26:29 <Ammler> oh, new setting? 14:26:48 <Rubidium> no, just checking whether that might be "it" 14:26:57 <Stablean> *** Player #2 has left the game (leaving) 14:27:03 <Ammler> never used sync_freq 14:27:08 <Ammler> @man sync_freq 14:27:11 <Webster> Search results - OpenTTD - http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=sync_freq 14:27:58 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 14:27:58 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 14:32:32 <Rubidium> were the settings changed before each new game? 14:33:18 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:33:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 14:33:47 <planetmaker> hm... @ Rubidium 14:34:00 <planetmaker> you can feel free to re-generate these on this server, if it helps 14:34:17 <Rubidium> were settings changed just before the desyncs? 14:35:12 <planetmaker> yes and no 14:35:18 <Rubidium> although I wouldn't really know how much some settings influence the desyncability if there's nothing on the map 14:35:37 <planetmaker> and no 14:35:54 <planetmaker> so once yes, two times not that I know. Dunno about the cfg via ssh anymore 14:35:56 <planetmaker> I don't think 14:41:29 <Stablean> <Dizel> who want 0.000 14:42:23 <Ammler> dizel http://www.openttd.org/en/donate 14:42:31 <Rubidium> the *only* reason for a desync at that time is: upon "newgame" the settings are overwritten immediately, then the stategame loop, check sync packets, "oh, I need to restart", so it kills the clients telling them to rejoin. The client starts rejoining and in during the join, in the check sync loop it recognises it's time to check the sync and does so figuring out it doesn't quite match with what it expected -> desync 14:42:42 <Stablean> <Dizel> )) 14:42:46 <Rubidium> but that is, with the current settings a 1% chance 14:44:44 <Rubidium> so you kinda did beat the odds, although you show you can't reproduce it every time 14:45:03 <Rubidium> on the other hands, it "should" be happening way more often if it were the case 14:45:40 <Rubidium> but then: "oh, desync" is disconnect and because it happens just before downloading the map or so they think they just lost the connection (again) 14:47:47 <Rubidium> or do you generally just load some savegame on the server when you restart (i.e. with the trunk servers) 14:48:11 <planetmaker> well, it happened when I issued the !newgame rcon command. So not when loading a game 14:48:12 <Stablean> *** Dizel has left the game (leaving) 14:48:31 <planetmaker> I haven't seen it when loading a game 14:48:49 <planetmaker> (which doesn't mean anything, but those three times were with newgame) 14:49:09 <Rubidium> three? There's only one in the log + Ammler 14:49:22 <planetmaker> two times Ammler, one time another 14:49:28 <planetmaker> 12:27h, 12:31h and... 14:49:44 <planetmaker> ...13:00h 14:49:48 <planetmaker> in my local backlog here 14:50:18 <planetmaker> IRC backlog. The first is not in desync log. 14:50:31 <planetmaker> Debuging was not (yet) switched on after the server restart. IIRC 14:51:01 <planetmaker> at least I *think* that it might not be logged in the desync log 14:51:35 <Rubidium> there's only one; tobi's 14:52:11 <planetmaker> ok, then in the first two logging wasn't yet enabled. It happened when Ammler tried to setup the new game 14:53:23 <planetmaker> shall we try it again? :-) 14:53:48 <planetmaker> folks, please don't mind the interruption, stay connected :-) 14:53:58 <planetmaker> !rcon save stable_002_mid2 14:53:59 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 14:53:59 <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to stable_002_mid2.sav 14:54:05 <planetmaker> !rcon newgame 14:54:11 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:54:13 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (desync error) 14:54:17 <Stablean> *** JohnTTD joined the game 14:54:38 <Stablean> <JohnTTD> what happened? 14:54:42 <planetmaker> !rcon load stable_002_mid2.sav 14:54:58 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:56:02 <planetmaker> seen, Rubidium ? 14:56:30 <Rubidium> yup... annoying 15:00:01 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:00:01 *** Webster sets mode: +o SmatZ 15:00:13 <Rubidium> I wonder whether it might have to do with "the other" patch 15:00:37 <planetmaker> the logging? 15:00:48 <planetmaker> hm... we could do without. 15:00:58 <Rubidium> let me try locally 15:01:21 <Rubidium> the logging is half (or even completely utterly) broken by "my" patch 15:02:22 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:03:59 <planetmaker> !playercount 15:03:59 <Stablean> planetmaker: Number of players: 0 15:04:06 <planetmaker> he... we lost our players ;-) 15:04:10 <planetmaker> They don't read the chat. 15:07:30 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:07:36 <Rubidium> okay, hit it 15:08:18 <Rubidium> !rcon newgame 15:08:19 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:08:21 <Stablean> *** not Ammler has left the game (desync error) 15:08:24 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:09:03 <planetmaker> he :-) 15:09:06 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:09:09 <Rubidium> !rcon newgame 15:09:09 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:09:11 <Stablean> *** not Ammler has left the game (desync error) 15:09:15 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:09:17 <planetmaker> is it the logging patch? 15:09:29 <Rubidium> I have no clue 15:09:44 <planetmaker> ah, I thought you meant that you got a clue ;-) 15:10:07 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:10:10 <Stablean> *** Azael joined the game 15:10:39 <Stablean> *** Doc joined the game 15:10:43 <Stablean> <Azael> heya 15:10:48 <planetmaker> Azael, Doc, heya :-) 15:10:52 <Stablean> <Doc> wot is :) 15:11:09 <Stablean> <Azael> mmm where to start 15:11:10 <planetmaker> We might re-load the previously interrupted game in a short time. 15:11:38 <planetmaker> Just to warn you ;-) 15:11:44 <Stablean> <Doc> we just came from facepunche`s server. he ologged to plat GTA4 15:12:07 <Stablean> <Doc> sry, i have bad typing skillz :( 15:12:39 <planetmaker> Rubidium, if you feel more comfortable I'd disable logging and blitter-for-dedicated patches 15:13:05 * planetmaker compiles 15:13:09 <Rubidium> planetmaker: problem is I can't reproduce it locally with the same patch applied 15:13:24 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:13:29 <Rubidium> !rcon newgame 15:13:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:13:33 <Stablean> *** not Ammler has left the game (desync error) 15:13:36 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:13:42 <Stablean> *** Azael joined the game 15:13:50 <planetmaker> there was the logging and the blitter-for-dedicated and your desync-fix applied as I saw it. 15:14:16 <planetmaker> let's just use yours then 15:14:17 <Stablean> *** Doc joined the game 15:14:18 <Stablean> *** Azael has started a new company (#2) 15:14:18 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:14:43 <Stablean> *** Doc has started a new company (#3) 15:15:50 <planetmaker> Azael, Doc: you may experience the fact that the server restarts or alike. Come back then :-) 15:15:51 <planetmaker> It's just that we need to test some restart functionality 15:15:57 <planetmaker> We'll load the game again 15:16:04 <Stablean> <Azael> no probs 15:16:09 <Stablean> <Doc> kk 15:16:19 <planetmaker> you'll know when it happens ;-) 15:17:05 <planetmaker> !rcon save stable_003_start 15:17:05 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 15:17:05 <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to stable_003_start.sav 15:17:12 <Stablean> Server closed down by admin 15:17:12 <Stablean> Saving game... 15:17:16 <Stablean> Server has exited 15:17:17 *** Stablean has quit IRC 15:17:51 <planetmaker> Rubidium, can you try again the desync? 15:17:55 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:17:55 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 15:17:55 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 15:17:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 15:17:56 *** Stablean has quit IRC 15:18:09 <planetmaker> ... 15:18:30 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:18:30 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 15:18:30 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 15:18:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 15:18:31 *** Stablean has quit IRC 15:18:38 <Rubidium> goin' well :( 15:18:59 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:18:59 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 15:18:59 <Stablean> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 15:18:59 <Stablean> Landscape: tropic 15:18:59 <Stablean> Dimensions: 256x1024 15:18:59 <Stablean> Starting year: 1950 15:18:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 15:19:00 *** Stablean has quit IRC 15:19:11 <planetmaker> holy cow... 15:22:04 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:22:04 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 15:22:04 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 15:22:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 15:22:24 <planetmaker> hm... 15:22:29 <planetmaker> better, I think 15:22:30 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:22:43 <Rubidium> !rcon newgame 15:22:45 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:22:48 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:22:53 <planetmaker> hm. 15:22:59 <Rubidium> !rcon newgame 15:23:01 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:23:03 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:23:29 <Rubidium> !rcon load stable_003_start.sav 15:23:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:23:33 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:23:34 <planetmaker> bad patches... one would be lead to assume 15:23:43 <planetmaker> *led 15:24:50 <planetmaker> !rcon newgame 15:24:51 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:24:56 <Stablean> *** not Ammler joined the game 15:26:04 <Rubidium> yeah, sounds plausible; after all the log patch of SmatZ interferes quite a bit with mine 15:26:10 <planetmaker> interesting... 15:26:14 <planetmaker> SmatZ, ^^ :-) 15:29:51 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:29:54 <Stablean> *** miodzio joined the game 15:29:58 <Ammler> He, Rubidium, you should alter the nick a bit, so you don't highlight me all the time :-P 15:30:49 <Rubidium> where's the fun in that? 15:30:54 <Stablean> *** Alpi joined the game 15:31:15 <Ammler> yeah, the "fun" will go :-( 15:31:41 <Stablean> *** Tepo99 joined the game 15:31:45 <Stablean> <Tepo99> hello 15:31:59 <Stablean> *** not Ammler has changed his/her name to not nobody 15:32:07 <Stablean> *** not nobody has left the game (leaving) 15:32:29 <Stablean> *** Tepo99 has left the game (leaving) 15:32:59 <planetmaker> Ammler, just FYI: the server has right now no patch except Rubi's. 15:33:19 <planetmaker> also the blitter-for-dedicated is not applied atm. It will also need to re-patch ap+ 15:33:36 <planetmaker> I saved the diff to ap+ 15:33:48 <Rubidium> oh, did "we" enable desync debugging? 15:33:58 <planetmaker> oh no. 15:34:01 <planetmaker> damn. 15:34:01 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 15:34:03 <Ammler> !screen 15:34:11 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 15:34:25 <planetmaker> !info 15:34:26 <Stablean> *** Doc joined the game 15:34:35 <Stablean> <Doc> hello again! 15:34:52 <planetmaker> !rcon save stable_003_start 15:34:52 <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map... 15:34:53 <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to stable_003_start.sav 15:35:00 <planetmaker> Doc: stay connected please ;-) 15:35:11 <Stablean> <Doc> wikk do :) 15:35:12 <Ammler> hmm, ap+ shouldn't depend on that blitter patch anyway... 15:35:14 <planetmaker> !rcon load stable_003_start 15:35:14 <Stablean> planetmaker: stable_003_start: No such file or directory. 15:35:18 <planetmaker> !rcon load stable_003_start.sav 15:35:19 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:35:26 <Stablean> *** Alpi joined the game 15:35:26 <Stablean> *** miodzio joined the game 15:35:27 <planetmaker> Ammler, but it requires a mod to ap+ 15:35:31 <Stablean> <Alpi> hello again 15:35:33 <Stablean> *** miodzio has joined company #1 15:35:33 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:35:56 <Stablean> *** Doc joined the game 15:36:03 <planetmaker> and patched ap+ doesn't work with unpatched openttd. 15:36:06 <Stablean> *** oFF. joined the game 15:36:10 <Stablean> *** Doc has joined company #3 15:36:26 <Stablean> <Alpi> i can´t build 15:36:41 <Rubidium> Alpi: join the company you started 15:36:54 <Rubidium> due to the reload you're a spectator 15:37:00 <Stablean> <Alpi> how? 15:37:16 <planetmaker> open the company window 15:37:20 <planetmaker> and select 'join' 15:37:40 <Stablean> *** Alpi has started a new company (#2) 15:37:52 <Stablean> *** miodzio has left the game (leaving) 15:37:53 <Stablean> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 15:38:01 <Stablean> <Alpi> ok 15:38:01 <planetmaker> or that way :-P 15:38:05 <Stablean> <Alpi> lost all 15:38:46 <planetmaker> !info 15:39:04 <planetmaker> !rcon companies 15:39:04 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Pink) Company Name: 'miodzio Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 53496 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:39:04 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(Blue) Company Name: 'Alpi Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 63259 Loan: 100000 Value: 12551 (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:39:04 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Orange) Company Name: 'Doc Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 99425 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:39:04 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Red) Company Name: 'oFF. Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 67963 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:39:43 <planetmaker> Alpi, sorry, we started a new game... 15:39:49 <PeterT> is it a fresh install of ap+? 15:39:52 <Stablean> <Alpi> no problem 15:39:55 <PeterT> is that why there is no !info command? 15:40:21 <planetmaker> no, it's not 15:40:31 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> this map looks like a windshield after a bunch of bugs have splatted against it and been poorly wiped off 15:40:33 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> hehe 15:40:40 <planetmaker> hehe 15:41:40 <Stablean> <Alpi> how can i sell a car 15:42:32 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> send it to a depot, then drag it to the X icon in the depot 15:42:44 <Stablean> <Alpi> ok i will try thx 15:42:57 <PeterT> !ip 15:43:02 <Stablean> <Alpi> aaa cool thx 15:43:06 <PeterT> why does that not work D: 15:43:20 <Stablean> *** Peter joined the game 15:43:37 <Ammler> I removed info on purpose ;-) 15:43:42 <Stablean> *** Floki joined the game 15:43:46 <PeterT> oh :-D 15:43:57 <planetmaker> PeterT, and !rcon companies is the same ;-) 15:44:04 <Stablean> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost) 15:44:17 <PeterT> yes, but for those who are not op 15:44:28 <Ammler> those can use !url 15:44:53 <PeterT> ah. 15:45:01 <Stablean> <Alpi> is it nessasery to set signals for the trains? 15:45:47 <Stablean> <Doc> if u run multi trains on single line, yes 15:45:55 <Stablean> <Alpi> ok 15:46:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:46:16 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:46:32 <Stablean> <Alpi> i´m new sorry for asking 15:46:40 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 15:47:02 <Stablean> <Player> name "baja" 15:47:09 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #6 15:47:43 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> baja, use the console to type "name baja". hit the ~ key to access the console 15:48:26 <Stablean> <Alpi> to i have to transport the stuff away from the oilfirm 15:48:58 <Stablean> <Doc> no 15:49:04 <Stablean> <Alpi> ok great:D 15:49:16 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp joined the game 15:49:36 <Stablean> *** Tobi corp has left the game (leaving) 15:53:38 <Stablean> *** JonC joined the game 15:53:40 <Stablean> <JonC> hi all 15:53:42 <Stablean> *** Peter has left the game (received strange packet) 15:53:42 <Stablean> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost) 15:53:44 <Stablean> *** Peter joined the game 15:53:56 <Stablean> <oFF.> hello 15:53:58 <Stablean> <Doc> hi 15:54:12 <PeterT> "Wrong protocol-error and our connection is closed." 15:55:19 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:55:58 <Stablean> <Alpi> should i built in towns? 15:56:16 <Stablean> <Doc> up to you mate 15:56:27 <Stablean> <JonC> probably just facilities 15:56:37 <Stablean> <Alpi> i mean is it good for money? 15:56:59 <Stablean> <Doc> industry pays better, unless u get a BIG city 15:57:17 <Stablean> <Alpi> so if i get a smal town i need to raise it up 15:57:43 <Stablean> <Doc> yeh, but it takes time and cash to do that 15:58:49 <Stablean> <Alpi> so what i´m doing is ok:D 16:05:00 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> Alpi - you need signals at Camiroig Heights 16:05:19 <Stablean> <Alpi> which ones and how many? 16:05:42 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> not sure how your loop is configured - but trains are blocking themselves 16:06:30 <Stablean> <Alpi> i have got signals 16:06:37 <Stablean> <Alpi> but they are not woring:D 16:06:48 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> the way PBS works is that trains will not pass a PBS signal unless there is a clear path to the next forward-facing signal 16:06:54 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> that station has no forward-facing signals anywhere nearby 16:07:34 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> Click Advanced Settings > Interface > Display options > Show reserved tracks 16:07:40 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> you'll see how much track that train is reserving 16:08:30 <Stablean> <Alpi> i try it again:D 16:08:56 <Stablean> <Alpi> trains a new for me 16:09:19 <Stablean> <JonC> I have this feeling about the signals :) 16:09:26 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> PBS is an advanced signal style - you might want to try using normal signals instead 16:09:29 <Stablean> <JonC> there are a bunch of them 16:09:48 <Stablean> <Alpi> which one is the best:D 16:09:54 <Stablean> <JonC> I found a WIki-page about them, I just try to use them :) 16:09:54 <Stablean> <Alpi> i have no idea 16:10:04 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> http://wiki.openttd.org/Signals 16:10:11 <Stablean> <JonC> yes this one is it 16:10:43 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> see how much track train 6 has reserved? 16:10:46 <Stablean> <Thraxian|Work> that's a very bad thing 16:11:08 <Stablean> <Alpi> i´m not sure 16:11:10 <Stablean> <Alpi> :D 16:11:20 <Stablean> <Alpi> but now it´s kind of working 16:12:23 <Stablean> <Alpi> why are u building so much depots 16:13:48 <Stablean> *** Klopss joined the game 16:16:38 <Stablean> <Alpi> aah i just need the lights on one side of the stadion 16:17:26 <Stablean> *** JonC has left the game (leaving) 16:19:09 <Stablean> *** JonC joined the game 16:19:14 <Stablean> <JonC> hi all 16:19:17 <Stablean> <Alpi> hi 16:23:01 <Stablean> *** Doc has left the game (connection lost) 16:24:40 <Stablean> *** Doc joined the game 16:26:57 <Stablean> <Doc> uve got a pretty impressive setup there, floki! :) 16:27:12 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 16:28:18 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has changed his/her name to Wally Sp 16:28:20 <Stablean> <Alpi> how can i clean my accidant 16:29:04 <Stablean> <JonC> as far as I know it will disappear 16:29:10 <Stablean> <Alpi> ok 16:29:16 <Stablean> *** oFF. has left the game (desync error) 16:29:16 <Stablean> *** Alpi has left the game (desync error) 16:29:16 <Stablean> *** Floki has left the game (desync error) 16:29:16 <Stablean> *** Klopss has left the game (desync error) 16:29:28 <Stablean> *** Klopss joined the game 16:29:39 <Stablean> *** Floki joined the game 16:30:20 <Stablean> *** Wally Sp has started a new company (#7) 16:30:37 <Rubidium> [2010-04-14 18:28:38] cmd: 000ae2c7; 0c; 05; 000000; 00000006; 00000000; 0a880043; "" (CmdBuyCompany) 16:30:49 <Rubidium> lovely! 16:31:07 <Stablean> <Doc> corporate takeovers, love it ! 16:31:12 <PeterT> :-D 16:33:16 <Stablean> *** oFF. joined the game 16:34:11 <Stablean> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 16:35:45 <Stablean> <JonC> out of cash :( 16:36:03 <Stablean> <Doc> it happens, lol 16:36:17 <Stablean> <JonC> are there any cheat for solve this issue? :D 16:36:27 <Rubidium> not in multiplayer 16:36:29 <Stablean> <JonC> im just joking :) 16:36:39 <Stablean> <Doc> only ` wait a while to get some income` cheat 16:36:41 <Stablean> <JonC> i never cheat in MP 16:36:49 <Stablean> <JonC> its a bit boring 16:40:04 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:41:44 <Stablean> *** oFF. has left the game (leaving) 16:45:21 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 16:45:37 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:48:08 <Stablean> *** Floki has left the game (leaving) 16:50:50 <Ammler> !players 16:50:52 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 47 (Green) is Klopss, in company 5 (Floki Transport) 16:50:53 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 56 is Player, a spectator 16:50:53 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 43 (Orange) is Doc, in company 3 (Doc Transport) 16:50:53 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 41 (Purple) is JonC, in company 8 (JonC Transport) 16:50:53 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 45 (Red) is Wally Sp, in company 7 (Wally Sp Transport) 16:51:22 <Ammler> hmm 16:51:27 <Ammler> !playercount 16:51:27 <Stablean> Ammler: Number of players: 5 16:51:36 <Ammler> !rcon clients 16:51:37 <Stablean> Ammler: Client #1 name: 'Stablean' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 16:51:37 <Stablean> Ammler: Client #47 name: 'Klopss' company: 5 IP: 83.27.184.13 16:51:37 <Stablean> Ammler: Client #56 name: 'Player' company: 255 IP: 81.186.244.74 16:51:37 <Stablean> Ammler: Client #43 name: 'Doc' company: 3 IP: 121.223.165.238 16:51:37 <Stablean> Ammler: Client #41 name: 'JonC' company: 8 IP: 94.21.238.98 16:51:38 <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message 16:51:40 <Stablean> <JonC> ? 16:51:42 <Ammler> !more 16:51:42 <Stablean> Ammler: Client #45 name: 'Wally Sp' company: 7 IP: 80.56.252.125 16:52:02 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:52:12 <Ammler> I wonder, how Player left but still was in 16:52:34 <Stablean> <JonC> maybe there are more of them 16:53:02 <Ammler> you get a list with all clients from the company toolbar 16:53:34 <Stablean> <JonC> I see 16:53:48 <Stablean> <JonC> there are 5 of us currently 16:54:37 <Ammler> one is the server, so 4 16:54:57 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 16:55:29 <Stablean> <JonC> yes if we don' t count you as client 16:55:47 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Avenger 16:56:41 <Stablean> *** Avenger has started a new company (#10) 16:56:41 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 16:57:10 <Stablean> <JonC> this game is just the same as my life 16:57:16 <Stablean> *** Avenger has left the game (leaving) 16:57:30 <Stablean> <Amm1er> booring? 16:57:32 <Stablean> <JonC> I never have money, and I can't do anything regarding to this 16:57:47 <Stablean> <Amm1er> maybe a rich company has a credit for you? 16:57:50 <Stablean> <JonC> yes, and boring :) 16:58:20 <Stablean> <JonC> what do you mean? should I lend some money from the bank? 16:58:31 <Stablean> <Amm1er> If you can, I would 16:58:42 <Stablean> <Amm1er> just a bit below the limit 16:58:45 <Stablean> <Doc> companies can `give` money to other companies 16:58:51 <Stablean> <JonC> oh 16:58:57 <Stablean> <JonC> I didn't know it 16:59:03 <Stablean> <JonC> thank you :) 16:59:18 <Stablean> <Doc> i expect most would call it a `loan` and expect it back tho :) 16:59:40 <Stablean> *** Klopss has left the game (leaving) 16:59:52 <Stablean> <JonC> ok, I'Ll 17:00:24 <Stablean> <Doc> who gave me cash just then? all of a sudden i got tonnes !?!!?!?! 17:01:10 <Stablean> <JonC> maybe the Easter Bunny? :D 17:01:17 <Ammler> !rcon companies 17:01:17 <Stablean> Ammler: #:1(Pink) Company Name: 'miodzio Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 122440 Loan: 100000 Value: 44211 (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 17:01:17 <Stablean> Ammler: #:2(Blue) Company Name: 'Alpi Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 25752 Loan: 300000 Value: 1 (T:5, R:7, P:0, S:0) protected 17:01:17 <Stablean> Ammler: #:3(Orange) Company Name: 'Doc Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 282666 Loan: 250000 Value: 186343 (T:7, R:1, P:0, S:0) protected 17:01:18 <Stablean> Ammler: #:4(Light Blue) Company Name: 'oFF. Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 647553 Loan: 0 Value: 953632 (T:10, R:2, P:0, S:0) protected 17:01:18 <Stablean> Ammler: #:5(Green) Company Name: 'Floki Transport' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 241442 Loan: 0 Value: 1852706 (T:52, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 17:01:18 <Stablean> Ammler: you have 3 more messages 17:01:31 <Stablean> <Doc> maybe i robbed the town`s bank? lol 17:01:47 <Ammler> !more 17:01:47 <Stablean> Ammler: #:6(White) Company Name: 'bajab' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 555798 Loan: 300000 Value: 564947 (T:6, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 17:01:47 <Stablean> Ammler: #:7(Red) Company Name: 'Wally Sp Transport' Year Founded: 1953 Money: 8510 Loan: 300000 Value: 1 (T:4, R:0, P:1, S:0) unprotected 17:01:47 <Stablean> Ammler: #:8(Purple) Company Name: 'JonC Transport' Year Founded: 1952 Money: 487212 Loan: 110000 Value: 448352 (T:2, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:01:57 <Stablean> <Doc> whoever it was, thank you 17:17:04 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 17:17:22 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:31:50 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 17:31:50 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 17:35:14 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:35:14 *** Webster sets mode: +o SmatZ 17:39:37 <Stablean> <JonC> nice station Floki! :) 17:39:55 <Stablean> <JonC> at this oil refinery 17:46:20 <Stablean> <Doc> how`s everyone goin? 17:50:26 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- joined the game 17:50:33 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome 17:50:48 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> hi 17:51:04 <Stablean> <JonC> hi 17:53:06 <Rubidium> !players 17:53:08 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 64 (Brown) is -=KJ=-, in company 9 (-=KJ=- Transport) 17:53:08 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 43 (Orange) is Doc, in company 3 (Doc Transport) 17:53:08 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 60 is Amm1er, a spectator 17:53:08 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 41 (Purple) is JonC, in company 8 (JonC Transport) 17:53:08 <Stablean> Rubidium: Client 45 (Red) is Wally Sp, in company 7 (Wally Sp Transport) 17:58:58 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- has left the game (connection lost) 17:59:21 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- joined the game 18:00:50 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has requested an admin 18:01:51 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has started a new company (#10) 18:02:31 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome to the club, amm1er :) 18:02:43 <Stablean> <Amm1er> thanks :-) 18:02:53 <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, you mean the color? 18:03:14 <Stablean> <Doc> nah, starting company 18:03:44 <Stablean> <Amm1er> well, a bit food and water 18:03:52 <Stablean> <Amm1er> like to make pax 18:04:18 <Stablean> <Doc> ahh 18:05:44 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I am willing to sell my company for 10US! Paypal the money to openttdguy@hotmail.com to purchase it! 18:06:04 <Stablean> <Amm1er> he, that's cheap! 18:06:10 <Stablean> <Doc> lol 18:06:48 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I hate how the first train never has any pax lol 18:07:02 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you might need to feed the town 18:07:53 <Stablean> *** tkjacobsen joined the game 18:08:04 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome tk :) 18:08:16 <Stablean> <tkjacobsen> thanks 18:08:21 <Rubidium> this company take-over desync is quite elusive :( 18:08:44 <Stablean> <Amm1er> is that a "1.0" feature? 18:10:20 <Stablean> <JonC> I just realized that I'm a bad railjunction designer :S 18:10:31 <Stablean> <Doc> lol 18:10:41 <Stablean> <JonC> it's an art 18:13:39 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> what container do u put on trains to carry maize? 18:13:54 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I would use maize waggons 18:14:23 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> k 18:15:02 <Stablean> <Doc> in the game u gotta use grain hoppers, i just checked 18:15:16 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> fuck 18:15:18 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, is that a bug? 18:15:20 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I made fruit lol 18:15:46 <Stablean> <Doc> dunno, if u go `sort by cargo` tab, up comes grain 18:16:55 <Stablean> *** UCS joined the game 18:17:18 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome ucs, make a company and join the fun! 18:18:25 <Ammler> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 0 18:18:37 <Ammler> I hope, you don't mind, if I disable breakdowns 18:18:53 <Stablean> <Doc> fine by me mate 18:18:59 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> aww 18:19:05 <Stablean> <JonC> no prob, just do it 18:19:11 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> why did I make the crap trains then lol 18:19:18 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> with 99% reliability 18:19:24 <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, sorry :-P 18:20:17 <Stablean> <Doc> they snuck in a new engine! sweeeeet 18:28:25 <Stablean> <Doc> nil wally, i funded that lumber mill myself, all 478000. it`s mine ! 18:28:55 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-) 18:29:31 <Stablean> <Doc> would you kindly remove your station please? 18:29:46 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> ok 18:29:52 <Stablean> <JonC> :) 18:30:52 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm 18:32:03 <Stablean> <Amm1er> that is a bit ugly 18:32:32 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> f u 18:32:38 <Stablean> <Doc> if you guys want one, do what i did, SAVE FOR IT!!!! :) 18:32:52 <Stablean> *** P+M Trans joined the game 18:33:05 <Stablean> *** P+M Trans has left the game (leaving) 18:33:07 <Stablean> <Amm1er> Wally Sp: I think, you should let him 18:33:45 <Stablean> <Amm1er> it isn't nice, what you guys do 18:34:03 <Stablean> <Amm1er> and Doc, next time, build first your station :-) 18:34:51 <Stablean> <Doc> i wanted to make sure i could actually build it, theres few spots it`ll let u do it :( 18:35:38 <Stablean> <UCS> only one thing to do, exclusive rights? 18:35:46 <Stablean> <Doc> and i did have a road dept there before wally built his btw 18:36:16 <Stablean> <Amm1er> Wally Sp: please say somthing 18:36:22 <Stablean> <Doc> i think the poor bastard who forked out for it should get it, after all they aint cheap 18:36:25 <Stablean> <Amm1er> state your mind 18:42:12 <Stablean> <JonC> oops... a little accident? 18:42:27 <Ammler> !save 18:42:27 <Stablean> Saving game... 18:42:41 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> yeah 18:42:51 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> stupid train went the wrong way 18:43:26 <Ammler> !rcon say "Wally, we need your opinion about, else you got a ban" 18:43:26 <Stablean> Ammler: [All] Stablean: Wally, we need your opinion about, else you got a ban 18:43:52 <Ammler> !players 18:43:55 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 66 (Brown) is -=KJ=-, in company 9 (-=KJ=- Transport) 18:43:55 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 68 (Yellow) is tkjacobsen, in company 11 (tkjacobsen Transport) 18:43:55 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 43 (Orange) is Doc, in company 3 (Doc Wood? Freight Co.) 18:43:55 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 60 (Dark Green) is Amm1er, in company 10 (Amm1er Transport) 18:43:55 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 71 is UCS, a spectator 18:43:56 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 41 (Purple) is JonC, in company 8 (JonC Transport) 18:43:56 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 45 (Red) is Wally Sp, in company 7 (Wally Sp Transport) 18:44:20 <Ammler> !rcon move 45 255 18:44:20 <Stablean> Ammler: *** Wally Sp has joined spectators 18:44:52 <Ammler> !rcon move 60 7 18:44:52 <Stablean> Ammler: *** Amm1er has joined company #7 18:45:48 <Stablean> <Amm1er> usually, competition is allowed 18:45:59 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I do that, because I got no reaction 18:46:45 <Stablean> <Doc> thank you amm1er. :) 18:46:55 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 18:47:15 <Stablean> *** Wally Sp has left the game (connection lost) 18:47:27 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 18:47:31 <Stablean> <Doc> ive nearly broken my company buying that, was peeved at having it hijacked 18:47:57 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has joined spectators 18:48:43 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you might replant trees :-) 18:49:17 <Stablean> <Doc> good idea :) 18:50:07 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has joined company #10 18:51:19 <Stablean> *** Smat joined the game 18:52:31 <Ammler> !screen 18:52:40 <Rubidium> no blittert 18:52:55 <Ammler> no blitter, no command log 18:53:17 <Ammler> and no usual log? 18:53:57 <Rubidium> something in my patch + whatever you already had caused the newgame desync 18:55:04 <Ammler> got it 18:56:37 <Stablean> *** UCS has left the game (connection lost) 19:00:25 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:01:08 <Stablean> *** JonC has left the game (connection lost) 19:01:13 <Stablean> *** Smat has left the game (leaving) 19:01:32 <Stablean> *** Smat joined the game 19:01:48 <Stablean> *** Smat has left the game (leaving) 19:11:12 * Rubidium has a happy! 19:13:27 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I love how the trains magically shrink when entering a depoy 19:13:35 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> depot* 19:15:29 <Ammler> KJ, they don't 19:15:40 <Ammler> the depot has a quite fast elevator 19:15:56 <Stablean> <Doc> lol 19:16:27 <Stablean> <Doc> i thought they had an underground ramp and workshop? 19:17:01 <Ammler> I guess so 19:18:18 <Stablean> *** performance joined the game 19:18:42 <KenjiE20> "everytime you bring physics into games...." 19:18:44 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome! 19:18:58 <Stablean> <performance> hi 19:21:29 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 19:22:07 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I haven't done much :-) 19:22:09 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:22:48 <Stablean> <Amm1er> He, thanks, but I don't need 19:22:50 <Stablean> *** performance has started a new company (#12) 19:22:55 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> Im still repaying loans :S 19:25:15 <Stablean> <Amm1er> why does this damn town not grow? 19:25:25 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I deliver both, food and water 19:28:40 <Stablean> *** Kim jong il joined the game 19:29:08 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome 19:29:58 <Stablean> *** Kim jong il has left the game (leaving) 19:35:26 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx joined the game 19:35:46 <Stablean> <Timmaexx> G' Evening 19:35:52 <Stablean> <Doc> welcome timm 19:40:39 <Rubidium> Amm1er: you should sweet talk the town, maybe it helps 19:42:05 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has left the game (leaving) 19:55:57 <Stablean> *** tkjacobsen has left the game (leaving) 20:06:04 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- has left the game (connection lost) 20:06:27 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- joined the game 20:22:19 <Stablean> *** Doc has left the game (connection lost) 20:26:14 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> yuck, all my trains are piling up 20:39:12 <Stablean> <Amm1er> someone took over a company? 20:39:21 <PeterT> Does r19636 mean that there is no desync anymore? 20:39:57 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> yeah I think I clicked yes to something lol 20:40:07 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hehe 20:40:23 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you bought the company with the lumber mill? 20:40:41 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> lol I have no idea what I bought 20:40:52 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-D 20:41:00 <Stablean> <Amm1er> no desync at least 20:41:07 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I have 3 helicopters now, all making negative 20:41:40 <Rubidium> Ammler: that's lucky :) 20:41:51 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-) 20:42:47 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> LOL wtf 20:42:59 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I have an airport for a town with 77 pop 20:44:27 <Stablean> <performance> KJ, the train from doc's company are stoped 20:44:40 <Ammler> Rubidium: my rating is outstanding, still no real grow 20:45:03 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> hmm 20:45:10 <Stablean> <Amm1er> does it depend "how much" food and water I deliver? 20:45:20 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I dont understand why these trains are here... 20:45:31 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you bought it 20:45:35 <Stablean> <Amm1er> whihc? 20:46:13 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> lol what a funny track 20:46:20 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> he built 3 tracks for 3 trains 20:46:38 <Rubidium> let me rebuild my 1.0.0 binary and join 20:48:34 <Stablean> *** not nobody joined the game 20:53:28 <Stablean> *** performance has left the game (connection lost) 20:54:18 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 20:55:21 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- has left the game (connection lost) 20:55:26 <Stablean> *** performance joined the game 20:55:48 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- joined the game 20:56:33 <Stablean> <not nobody> the town doesn't have a steady supply of food 20:57:03 <Stablean> <Amm1er> should have every month at least one delivery 21:00:00 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:00:55 <Stablean> <not nobody> food is scarce on this map 21:01:09 <Stablean> <Amm1er> he, indeed 21:02:24 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> torrentalt will be the new capital city of the map 21:03:08 <Stablean> <Amm1er> doesn't count 21:03:18 <Stablean> <Amm1er> should be a desert town 21:05:16 <Stablean> <not nobody> Amm1er: you should've chosen a city, not a town. Towns will grow much slower than cities in any case 21:05:47 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hmm, it grows 21:07:28 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> the only thing my city aint getting is goods 21:07:46 <Stablean> <Amm1er> KJ 21:07:56 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you city doesn't depend on water and food 21:08:19 <Stablean> <Amm1er> so it is easy 21:08:32 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> lol k 21:08:48 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> it still has everything anyway 21:08:54 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-) 21:09:04 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> I would live there 21:11:31 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> LOL I made a ship in torrentalt 21:18:40 <Stablean> *** not nobody has left the game (leaving) 21:19:52 <Stablean> <-=KJ=-> alright Im off, cya guys 21:20:07 <Stablean> *** -=KJ=- has left the game (leaving) 21:22:24 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:43:52 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:43:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 21:53:01 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 22:01:03 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:06:24 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 22:07:28 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 22:11:05 <planetmaker> congratz on finding the desync, Rubidium :-) 22:11:18 <Ammler> did he? 22:11:30 <PeterT> yes 22:11:31 <PeterT> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/1b67cad7a453 22:11:52 <planetmaker> 97 minutes ago rubidium (svn r19636) -Fix: desync when taking over companies 22:12:24 <Ammler> so can we again patch this server? 22:13:16 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 22:13:29 <planetmaker> well. The loging patch caused another desync on the newgame command... :-) 22:14:36 <planetmaker> or so it seems. As without we couldn't reproduce it. 22:18:22 <Ammler> yep, but I miss that patch 22:18:43 <Ammler> dunno, if SmatZ like to fix that 22:23:01 <planetmaker> yes, I also feel that we need some kind of logging. Taking care of a server without is... much more painful 22:23:29 <Stablean> <Amm1er> also the password patch 22:23:51 <PeterT> yay! 22:24:05 <PeterT> http://users.tt-forums.net/petert/diffs/save_password_1.0.0.diff 22:30:54 <Ammler> PeterT: don't you have a version which works with bb2? 22:31:53 <PeterT> I could make a diff of save_password & bb2 22:31:55 <PeterT> is that ok? 22:32:32 <PeterT> wait, one that works with bb2 22:32:52 <Ammler> I thought, you already did 22:32:59 <PeterT> try http://users.tt-forums.net/petert/diffs/save_password_bb2_1.0.0.diff 22:33:10 <PeterT> I don't know if it works, haven't actually tested it 22:33:41 <planetmaker> and you want us to test it on a live server? 22:33:51 <PeterT> I don't know if the diff works 22:33:56 <PeterT> I know that save_password works 22:34:42 <Ammler> it doesn't :-( 22:51:09 <Rubidium> if you want the bb2 patch in the "next" version you'll have to update it anyway 22:51:37 <Ammler> you mean in 1.0.1? 22:51:38 <PeterT> Rubidium: which "next version" is that? 22:52:00 <Rubidium> yep 22:53:31 <Rubidium> or in recent trunk 22:53:53 <Stablean> *** skellious joined the game 23:00:07 <Stablean> *** skellious has left the game (leaving) 23:01:43 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 23:15:13 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:15:13 *** Webster sets mode: +o PeterT_ 23:15:25 <PeterT_> !players 23:15:28 <Stablean> PeterT_: Client 97 (Dark Blue) is performance, in company 12 (performance Transport) 23:15:43 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 23:53:59 <Stablean> *** performance has left the game (leaving) 23:54:01 <Stablean> *** Game paused (not enough players)