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04:43:35 <Stablean> *** Benom joined the game 04:47:57 <Stablean> *** Benom has left the game (connection lost) 04:48:00 *** benom has quit IRC 06:36:06 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:36:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:41:28 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:41:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:53:06 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 08:53:06 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 08:57:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 08:57:27 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:20:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:03:08 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 10:03:09 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:03:43 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 10:03:45 <Stablean> <V453000> hi ther 10:03:51 <Stablean> <learningottd> hey ho 10:04:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> did some single player testing of pax :p 10:04:12 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:04:14 <Stablean> <learningottd> think i understand the concept now 10:04:16 <Stablean> <V453000> results? 10:04:26 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm well 10:04:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> i came to the same conclusion as you guys 10:04:42 <Stablean> <V453000> .) 10:04:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> grow each city with different rings that all connect to one main station 10:05:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> that transfers passengers to a similar station in another city 10:05:11 <Stablean> <V453000> there are different ways how to do it 10:05:17 <Stablean> <V453000> but these are more complicated 10:05:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhm 10:05:31 <Stablean> <V453000> but basically you always ge the Sbahn 10:05:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> city building can get very messy 10:05:57 <Stablean> <V453000> .) 10:05:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> and you were right ;) 10:05:59 <Stablean> <V453000> I kno 10:06:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> pax stations can take a huge amount of trains 10:06:21 <Stablean> <learningottd> that probably wont fit too well in a cargo network ^^ 10:06:31 <Stablean> <V453000> :) told ya 10:06:43 <Stablean> <V453000> i finally managed to get the 30k pax out of Alpha 10:07:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> ehehe 10:07:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> was 30k people there? 10:07:08 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 10:07:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> its only natural pax needs alot more trains than cargo 10:07:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> a coal mine can produce 200 units each month 10:07:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> a city 10k :p 10:08:01 <Stablean> <V453000> indeed 10:08:28 <Stablean> <V453000> Alpha has about 15k pax /month throughput 10:08:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> but i think if i had planned it better i could have cargo and passengers on the same network 10:09:13 <Stablean> <learningottd> mainline now isnt made for big tl trains 10:09:17 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:09:29 <Stablean> <V453000> shinkansens are too nice to me to use a rail network for pax :p 10:09:51 <Stablean> <learningottd> eh what? :p 10:10:00 <Stablean> <V453000> shinkansens ... the japanese fast trains 10:10:08 <Stablean> <learningottd> aaah 10:11:51 <Stablean> <learningottd> maybe next game i will do some planning :) 10:11:57 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:12:36 <Stablean> <V453000> japan is a bit special 10:12:46 <Stablean> <V453000> you need to know the differences in rails 10:12:48 <Stablean> <V453000> to plan 10:12:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> you cant do like this in a game with no grfs? 10:13:20 <Stablean> <V453000> well you could 10:13:23 <Stablean> <V453000> but it wouldnt work very nice 10:13:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> how come? 10:13:45 <Stablean> <V453000> well, CLs are different, and original trainset cant take much pax 10:14:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 10:14:16 <Stablean> <learningottd> can have lower cls with this trainset and wagons take more passengers right? 10:14:18 <Stablean> <V453000> I was rather talking in general 10:14:32 <Stablean> <V453000> sure 10:14:35 <Stablean> <V453000> but 10:14:49 <Stablean> <V453000> if you compare for example to UKRS we played last time 10:14:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> mhms 10:15:09 <Stablean> <V453000> there you have 225kmh trains you can use for cargo, and about similar trains, also 225 you can use for pax 10:15:23 <Stablean> <V453000> so there a combined network is quite ok 10:15:40 <Stablean> <V453000> here you have 120kmh super-heavy freight trains 10:15:47 <Stablean> <V453000> and 160kmh light pax 10:15:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya cant have different trainspeeds on same network -.- 10:16:03 <Stablean> <V453000> well, you can, but it doesnt make anything good :) 10:16:26 <Stablean> <learningottd> yup. flow is getting choppy then 10:31:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> all your buses do transfer? 10:32:03 <Stablean> <V453000> sure 10:32:05 <Stablean> <V453000> I want no pax lost 10:32:11 <Stablean> <learningottd> allright ;) 10:32:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> so its only in the beginning they can do whatever just to grow the city 10:32:47 <Stablean> <V453000> well even from the beginning they can transfer: p 10:32:58 <Stablean> <learningottd> -_- 10:38:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:38:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:39:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> oki im off. later! 10:39:12 <Stablean> <V453000> cya 10:39:14 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (leaving) 10:43:19 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 10:43:19 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:43:27 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:58:45 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 11:58:47 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 12:08:56 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:26:20 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 12:26:22 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 12:36:17 <Stablean> *** tufekci joined the game 12:36:59 <Stablean> *** tufekci has left the game (leaving) 13:43:29 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:43:31 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 13:44:39 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 13:44:39 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:48:59 <V453000> wa 13:49:22 <V453000> [15:43] <+Stablean> *** Mark joined the game I believe someone else uses the same nick :) 13:54:10 <Ammler> hehe, Mark is not that unique, you might think 13:54:59 <planetmaker> hehe indeed 13:59:48 <V453000> yea 14:01:17 <Stablean> Server is going down for... 14:01:17 <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.0.2-RC1. 14:01:17 *** Stablean has quit IRC 14:04:34 <V453000> does this thing actually have an autosave? 14:08:29 <Ammler> yes, it has, but it will forget passwords 14:08:40 <Ammler> so don't forget to disable autoclean 14:10:55 <V453000> ooh :) 14:10:57 <V453000> good point :) 14:19:12 <Ammler> @topic add Server down, do disable autoclean_unprotected on restart 14:19:12 *** Webster changes topic to " #openttdcoop Welcome server. OpenTTD 1.0.2-RC1 | Admin channel (ask for op) | Server down, do disable autoclean_unprotected on restart" 14:20:49 <V453000> :) 14:20:55 <V453000> at least we still have webster 14:20:55 <Webster> V453000: 1276758000 14:20:59 <V453000> wa 14:21:06 <V453000> wtf is that number :D 14:28:42 *** snc has quit IRC 14:42:50 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:56:45 <KenjiE20> V453000: (at <time string>) -- Returns the number of seconds since epoch <time string> 16:57:11 <V453000> o_O ? 16:58:06 <V453000> where do I meet taht 16:58:08 <V453000> that 17:12:39 <KenjiE20> well saying webster first or last will make it respond 17:22:12 <V453000> at 1276758000 webster 17:22:12 <Webster> V453000: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 17:22:22 <V453000> emm 17:22:25 <V453000> did you mean this? 17:24:02 <KenjiE20> at blah Webster 17:24:02 <Webster> KenjiE20: 1276758000 17:24:40 <KenjiE20> meh 17:25:07 <V453000> OH 17:25:12 <V453000> :D 17:25:18 <V453000> now I see 17:25:26 <V453000> I just wrote that "at least..." 17:25:45 <V453000> you die webster 17:47:09 *** Paul2 has quit IRC 17:55:20 *** Paul2 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:58:36 <Ammler> bad server doesn't join :-( 18:01:30 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:01:30 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 18:01:30 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:01:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 18:01:49 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings autoclean 18:01:49 <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 18:01:49 <Stablean> Ammler: network.autoclean_companies = on 18:01:49 <Stablean> Ammler: network.autoclean_unprotected = 0 18:01:49 <Stablean> Ammler: network.autoclean_protected = 0 18:01:49 <Stablean> Ammler: network.autoclean_novehicles = 1 18:01:49 <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message 18:01:56 <Ammler> !ip 18:01:57 <Stablean> Ammler: stable.openttdcoop.org:3999 18:02:12 <Ammler> we will see :-) 18:02:15 <Ammler> !revision 18:02:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Game version is 1.0.2-RC1 18:02:19 <Ammler> !server_status 18:02:19 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:02pm up 11 days 20:43, 2 users, load average: 0.35, 0.46, 0.46 18:02:19 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:02:20 <Stablean> Ammler: child process exited abnormally 18:02:42 <V453000> the last line is ... ? :D 18:02:51 <V453000> child process? :D 18:03:09 <Ammler> !server_status 18:03:09 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:03pm up 11 days 20:44, 2 users, load average: 0.28, 0.42, 0.44 18:03:09 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:03:10 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 119m 15m 3884 S 0 0.8 0:01.70 ./stable -c openttd 18:03:25 <Ammler> new server, new user :-) 18:03:35 <V453000> interesting 18:04:00 <Ammler> now, we will see, how well the server works on the DevZone :-) 18:04:08 <Ammler> !screen 18:04:08 <Stablean> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/stable/screenshot.png) 18:04:33 <V453000> nicely outdated screen :D 18:07:09 <V453000> ooh it is the dev server ... it isnt changed on Home page ;) 18:17:40 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 18:18:00 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has joined company #1 18:18:00 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:18:16 <Ammler> !screen 18:18:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 18:18:34 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 18:19:19 <Ammler> !screen 18:19:19 <Stablean> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/screenshot.png) 18:19:32 <Ammler> !screen 18:19:34 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0002B3E3: http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/0002B3E3.png 18:19:43 <Ammler> !info 18:19:43 <Stablean> Ammler: www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable 18:19:53 <Ammler> hmm 18:20:09 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hello VVV 18:20:17 <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi hi 18:20:23 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you like the farm graphics? 18:20:26 <Stablean> <V453000> no 18:20:36 <Stablean> <V453000> im trying to get rid of them by growing cities everywhere 18:20:38 <Stablean> <Amm1er> those are a bit too bright imo 18:20:41 <Stablean> <V453000> indeed 18:20:47 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-D 18:21:36 <Stablean> <Amm1er> but jp theme is nice 18:21:47 <Stablean> <V453000> indeed 18:22:53 <Stablean> <V453000> I feared people here will not like japan :) 18:22:56 <Stablean> <V453000> but it is quite ok 18:23:24 <Stablean> <Amm1er> he, the companies are quite dedicated 18:23:40 <Stablean> <V453000> the red one is quite good 18:23:44 <Stablean> <V453000> they are to actually 18:23:47 <Stablean> <V453000> cooping :) 18:24:06 <Stablean> <V453000> blue is also learning not-so-slowly 18:26:10 <Stablean> <Amm1er> shinkansen should move to monorail indeed 18:26:26 <Stablean> <V453000> why do you think I set first parameter 4 18:27:07 <Ammler> !screen 18:27:09 <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00033EEC: http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/webcam/00033EEC.png 18:27:20 <Stablean> <V453000> (that makes it maglev) 18:27:51 <Stablean> <V453000> they would need some adjustments in stats 18:27:57 <Stablean> <V453000> if they were to keep on monorail 18:28:27 <Stablean> <V453000> because the problem is - you can not influence it ... they just have still the same acceleration and you cant add any engines 18:28:41 <Stablean> <V453000> when we played with them on PZ12, they were just useless 18:29:15 <Stablean> <V453000> but at the current stage, I think maglev is the only acceptable possibility :) 18:29:21 <Ammler> !info is back :-) 18:29:21 <Stablean> Ammler: www.openttdcoop.org/servers/stable 18:29:37 <Stablean> <V453000> although it doesnt work with total bridge renewal -.- 18:30:00 <Stablean> <V453000> which I dont get either because it always worked even with v2 trainset beta 18:30:07 <Stablean> <V453000> and suddenly it doesnt 18:30:17 <Ammler> hmm, no idea 18:30:38 <V453000> I suspect some "if" in the code 18:31:11 <V453000> because it says "parameter 1 must be 0 to make the bridge renewal work" ... but parameter 4 works the same as if v2 beta had parameter 0 18:31:15 <V453000> and only beta works -.- 18:31:24 <Ammler> !server_status 18:31:24 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:31pm up 11 days 21:12, 2 users, load average: 1.23, 0.81, 0.61 18:31:25 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:31:25 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 127m 21m 4296 R 51 1.0 4:50.24 ./stable -c openttd 18:31:40 <Ammler> V453000: any idea, how the cpu usage was on ps? 18:31:51 <V453000> no 18:31:55 <V453000> I dont understand these numbers 18:32:01 <Ammler> 51% 18:32:08 <V453000> oh ther 18:32:15 <V453000> well but just now I know :) 18:32:36 <Ammler> hmm, I could run it on ps just to check 18:32:47 <V453000> do anything you like :) 18:32:53 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 18:33:49 *** Stablean_PS has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:33:49 <Stablean_PS> Autopilot engaged 18:33:49 <Stablean_PS> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:34:07 <Ammler> !server_status 18:34:07 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:34pm up 11 days 21:15, 2 users, load average: 0.64, 0.74, 0.62 18:34:07 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 20:34:09 up 4:24, 2 users, load average: 1.33, 1.48, 1.44 18:34:07 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:34:08 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: Cpu(s): 15.2%us, 4.7%sy, 3.8%ni, 73.0%id, 3.2%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st 18:34:08 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 127m 21m 4296 S 38 1.0 5:59.66 ./stable -c openttd 18:34:08 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 2944 openttd 25 10 30904 15m 3848 S 0 0.8 0:01.96 ./stable -c openttd 18:34:21 <Ammler> !rcon unpause 18:34:21 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: Game cannot be unpaused manually; disable pause_on_join/min_active_clients. 18:34:21 <Stablean> Ammler: Game is already unpaused. 18:34:42 <Ammler> !rcon set max_active_clients 0 18:34:42 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 'max_active_clients' is an unknown setting. 18:34:42 <Stablean> Ammler: 'max_active_clients' is an unknown setting. 18:35:11 <Ammler> !rcon set min_active_clients 0 18:35:12 <Stablean_PS> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:35:17 <Ammler> !server_status 18:35:17 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 20:35:19 up 4:25, 2 users, load average: 1.42, 1.49, 1.45 18:35:17 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:35pm up 11 days 21:16, 2 users, load average: 1.12, 0.83, 0.65 18:35:18 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: Cpu(s): 15.2%us, 4.7%sy, 3.9%ni, 72.9%id, 3.2%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st 18:35:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:35:18 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 127m 21m 4296 R 40 1.0 6:30.65 ./stable -c openttd 18:35:18 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 2944 openttd 25 10 31044 16m 4156 R 10 0.8 0:02.64 ./stable -c openttd 18:35:30 <Ammler> hmm, only 10% 18:35:33 <V453000> :o 18:35:39 <Ammler> so our server is alot weaker :-) 18:35:42 <Ammler> planetmaker: ^ 18:36:00 <Ammler> !server_status 18:36:00 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 20:36:01 up 4:26, 2 users, load average: 1.96, 1.61, 1.49 18:36:00 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:36pm up 11 days 21:17, 2 users, load average: 0.87, 0.80, 0.65 18:36:00 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: Cpu(s): 15.2%us, 4.7%sy, 4.0%ni, 72.8%id, 3.2%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st 18:36:00 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:36:01 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 127m 21m 4296 R 46 1.0 6:48.66 ./stable -c openttd 18:36:01 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 2944 openttd 25 10 31204 16m 4172 R 12 0.8 0:07.86 ./stable -c openttd 18:36:24 <Ammler> !rcon set autoclean_unprotected 18:36:24 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: Current value for 'autoclean_unprotected' is: '1' (min: (0) 0, max: 240) 18:36:24 <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'autoclean_unprotected' is: '0' (min: (0) 0, max: 240) 18:36:34 <Stablean_PS> Server closed down by admin 18:36:39 <Stablean_PS> Server has exited 18:36:40 *** Stablean_PS has quit IRC 18:36:44 *** Stablean_PS has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:36:44 <Stablean_PS> Autopilot engaged 18:36:44 <Stablean_PS> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop Welcome Stable (www.openttdcoop.org)' 18:36:56 <Ammler> !rcon set autoclean_unprotected 0 18:38:28 <V453000> so now it is on the same server as the main game? 18:39:02 <Ammler> !server_status 18:39:02 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 20:39:04 up 4:29, 2 users, load average: 1.53, 1.72, 1.56 18:39:02 <Stablean> Ammler: 20:39pm up 11 days 21:20, 2 users, load average: 0.74, 0.80, 0.67 18:39:02 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: Cpu(s): 15.2%us, 4.7%sy, 4.2%ni, 72.6%id, 3.2%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st 18:39:03 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.3% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 18:39:03 <Stablean_PS> Ammler: 6193 openttd 25 10 31196 16m 4176 R 12 0.8 0:17.41 ./stable -c openttd 18:39:03 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 127m 21m 4296 S 39 1.0 8:11.72 ./stable -c openttd 18:39:19 <Ammler> V453000: no, it isn't anymore 18:39:20 <Ammler> it was 18:39:25 <V453000> ok :) 18:39:33 <Ammler> Stablean_PS: is ps 18:39:45 <Stablean_PS> Server closed down by admin 18:39:50 <Stablean_PS> Server has exited 18:39:51 *** Stablean_PS has quit IRC 18:40:10 <V453000> yeah, I thought so :) 18:40:26 <Ammler> !rcon set autosave 18:40:26 <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'autosave' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 4) 18:40:28 <Ammler> !rcon set autosave 1 18:40:40 <Ammler> !rcon debug_level 18:40:40 <Stablean> Ammler: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0' 18:41:08 <V453000> btw. since we have the grfs, only good players keep playing here ... who are imo at this moment ready to join the main server 18:41:10 <V453000> more or less 18:41:29 <V453000> not like I would change anything, just pointing out :) 18:41:41 <Ammler> I don't care at all 18:41:50 <V453000> :) 18:41:53 <Ammler> just this server how every you like 18:41:58 <Ammler> use* 18:42:02 <Ammler> -y 18:42:07 <V453000> :) 18:42:17 <V453000> playground :) 19:01:14 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 19:02:46 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas joined the game 19:03:01 <Ammler> oh, me left, og joined :-) 19:03:08 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ello 19:03:12 <Ammler> were you online as the server crashed? 19:03:20 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> no 19:03:26 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> but i copuldnt log in today 19:03:41 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> couldint* 19:03:46 <Ammler> yes, it was down from 16.00 until 20.00 19:03:57 <Stablean> <OG Matautas> soz not my pc shitty keyboard 19:04:48 <Ammler> :-) 19:10:29 <Ammler> !server_status 19:10:30 <Stablean> Ammler: 21:10pm up 11 days 21:51, 2 users, load average: 0.75, 0.83, 0.88 19:10:30 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 4.3% us, 0.8% sy, 0.5% ni, 94.2% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 19:10:31 <Stablean> Ammler: 13837 ottdc 26 10 127m 23m 4316 R 49 1.1 22:47.68 ./stable -c openttd 19:11:31 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings autosave 19:11:31 <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 19:11:31 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.autosave = 1 19:11:31 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.keep_all_autosave = off 19:11:31 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.autosave_on_exit = off 19:11:31 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.max_num_autosaves = 16 19:11:33 <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message 19:11:47 <Ammler> !rcon set max_num_autosaves 255 19:17:56 <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has left the game (connection lost) 19:33:29 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:07:50 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx joined the game 20:08:34 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has left the game (connection lost) 20:41:15 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:50:49 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:50:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 21:13:58 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 21:25:53 <Stablean> *** Tono joined the game 21:27:42 <Stablean> *** Tono has started a new company (#6) 21:35:36 <Stablean> *** Tono has left the game (leaving) 22:24:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:31:36 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 22:33:54 <V453000> hehehehehhell lo 22:33:59 <Stablean> <learningottd> hellu 22:34:21 <Stablean> <learningottd> dont have much else to do in this game. think i just will wait for next one :) 22:34:26 <V453000> :) 22:34:33 <V453000> we can make that quite quickly 22:34:45 <V453000> what trainset do you want? 22:34:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> isnt it a little late to start a new one tonight? 22:34:56 <Stablean> <learningottd> i have no idea about trainsets :p 22:35:03 <V453000> hmm 22:35:04 <V453000> ok :) 22:35:07 <V453000> I will choose something 22:35:11 <Stablean> <learningottd> cool 22:36:27 <V453000> some other wishes? :) 22:36:36 <Stablean> <learningottd> eh not really. 22:36:44 <Stablean> <learningottd> i trust you will make a wise decision 22:37:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> but i like this type of map, cargo + passengers 22:39:05 <V453000> do you want some more industries? 22:39:25 <Stablean> <learningottd> well uhm 22:39:29 <V453000> like different types 22:39:37 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh yeah 22:39:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> for max rating ^^ 22:44:27 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (connection lost) 22:45:14 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 22:55:20 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 22:55:24 <Stablean> <V453000> ok 22:55:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> heya 22:55:26 <Stablean> <V453000> lets go 22:55:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> lets roll 22:55:33 <V453000> !getsave http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/Stablefirs.sav 22:55:33 <Stablean> V453000: OK :-) 22:55:36 <V453000> !rcon ls 22:55:36 <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory) 22:55:36 <Stablean> V453000: 1) autosave/ (Directory) 22:55:37 <Stablean> V453000: 2) uploads/ (Directory) 22:55:37 <Stablean> V453000: 3) game.sav 22:55:37 <Stablean> V453000: 4) stable08062010.sav.sav 22:55:37 <Stablean> V453000: you have 441 more messages 22:55:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> bye nippon! 22:55:42 <V453000> !rcon cd 2 22:55:46 <V453000> !rcon ls 22:55:46 <Stablean> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory) 22:55:46 <Stablean> V453000: 1) Stablefirs.sav 22:55:46 <Stablean> V453000: 2) stable02japan.sav 22:55:46 <Stablean> V453000: 3) Stable01V.sav 22:55:46 <Stablean> V453000: 4) CityGameAgain.sav 22:55:47 <Stablean> V453000: you have 11 more messages 22:55:49 <V453000> !rcon load 1 22:56:02 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 22:56:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 22:56:30 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 22:56:30 <V453000> !rcon unpause 22:56:31 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (manual) 22:56:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> oi 22:56:38 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 22:56:40 <Stablean> <learningottd> junkyard? :p 22:56:46 <Stablean> <V453000> sure 22:56:55 <V453000> !auto 22:56:55 <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 22:56:57 <V453000> !setdef 22:56:57 <Stablean> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 22:57:04 <Stablean> <learningottd> oi shit lots of industries i have no idea about :p 22:57:15 <Stablean> <V453000> and year 1900 ;) 22:57:27 <Stablean> <V453000> have fun :) 22:57:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> zomg dunno what goes where :p 22:57:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm what do they mean? 22:57:47 <Stablean> <V453000> start with something you know 22:57:49 <Stablean> <V453000> there are such :p 22:58:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> uhm 22:58:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> merchandise that awaits treatment? 22:58:40 <Stablean> <learningottd> errr it only says in norwegian 22:58:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> the upper line 22:59:07 <Stablean> <V453000> this industry set is based on: you have some primaries, deliver them somewher ... and from there you get goods or some secondary cargoes from which you can make engineering/farm supplies ... and by these you can increase the mine productions 22:59:17 <Stablean> <V453000> upperline? 22:59:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> when you click on a sand pit for instance 22:59:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> 0 crates of engineering supplies 22:59:40 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 22:59:41 <Stablean> <V453000> that is accepted 22:59:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> engineering supplies is transported to there? 22:59:45 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah ok 22:59:47 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 22:59:53 <Stablean> <V453000> all mines require that 22:59:55 <Stablean> <learningottd> so almost all primaries accept a type of cargo? 23:00:09 <Stablean> <V453000> otherwise they will not increase production if they dont have it 23:00:11 <Stablean> <V453000> that is the fun 23:00:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> aaah i see 23:00:27 <Stablean> <learningottd> both incoming and outgoing trains keke 23:00:29 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#1) 23:00:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> going for a quick smoke then gonna build -_- 23:00:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> brbz 23:09:23 <Stablean> <V453000> join my comp after you come :) 23:09:29 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 23:09:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> already started building 23:09:38 <Stablean> <learningottd> but sure. this can just die ^^ 23:09:45 <Stablean> *** learningottd has joined company #1 23:09:55 <Stablean> <V453000> im doing a steel line atm 23:10:18 <Stablean> <V453000> to the Machine Shop 23:10:28 <Stablean> <V453000> so we can get some engi supplies running ;) 23:10:42 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok 23:11:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah ok it has best production with scrap metal 23:11:15 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 23:11:25 <Stablean> <V453000> and even better when you deliver all cargoes 23:11:28 <Stablean> <V453000> I think 2 are enough 23:11:52 <Stablean> <learningottd> ok cool 23:12:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> so it produces steel 23:12:28 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah oki i start to get it 23:12:50 <Stablean> <learningottd> so the machine shop need some aluminum and fuel oil also 23:13:27 <Stablean> <V453000> these RVs are pathetic :D 23:13:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> rv? 23:13:52 <Stablean> <V453000> road vehicle 23:14:06 <Stablean> <learningottd> ehehe 16km ^^ 23:14:36 <Stablean> <V453000> soon we are rich ;) 23:14:56 <Stablean> *** learningottd has left the game (connection lost) 23:15:42 <Stablean> *** learningottd joined the game 23:15:44 <Stablean> <learningottd> stupid network 23:16:05 <Stablean> *** learningottd has joined company #1 23:16:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> quite 23:16:23 <Stablean> <learningottd> can get huge crazy networks in a game like this me thinks 23:16:27 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 23:16:39 <Stablean> <learningottd> fun fun -_- 23:18:17 <Stablean> <V453000> also see that all mines produce about the same 23:18:20 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh electric trains suck in 1901 23:18:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> if you increase production 23:18:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> is it permanent? 23:18:54 <Stablean> <V453000> woo 23:18:56 <Stablean> <V453000> no idea about that 23:18:58 <Stablean> <V453000> we can see 23:19:06 <Stablean> <V453000> good question :) 23:19:16 <Stablean> <learningottd> havent played this much? ;p 23:19:31 <Stablean> <V453000> not that much 23:19:33 <Stablean> <V453000> or at least 23:19:39 <Stablean> <V453000> I never stopped delivering the supplies 23:19:53 <Stablean> <learningottd> i can foresee alot of primaries with enormous production 23:20:03 <Stablean> <V453000> :)รบ 23:20:05 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 23:20:31 <Stablean> <learningottd> i guess it will be too messy to build standard LLRR ish network with hubs on this 23:20:46 <Stablean> <V453000> what else would you want to do :) 23:21:04 <Stablean> <learningottd> well point to point sucks 23:21:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> thats what i did in transport tycoon deluxe ^^ 23:22:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> its alot cooler to have all trains capable of going anywhere on the map if they wanted to 23:22:30 <Stablean> <V453000> indeed 23:23:14 <Stablean> <V453000> later on I would relocate our machine shop !here 23:23:28 <Stablean> <V453000> that way we can also deliver steel to the foundry 23:23:39 <Stablean> <V453000> and get a nice positioning of the machine shop 23:23:53 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah i see. a huuuuge station 23:23:56 <Stablean> <V453000> and then we can setup the other industries appropriately 23:24:06 <Stablean> <V453000> steel mill can stay imo 23:24:12 <Stablean> <learningottd> easier if you decide all of the main stations now :) 23:24:22 <Stablean> <learningottd> theres alot of secondaries it seems 23:24:26 <Stablean> <V453000> main stations will be many 23:24:30 <Stablean> <V453000> takes a long time to plan 23:24:44 <Stablean> <V453000> but I would make it by a simple key 23:24:52 <Stablean> <V453000> those that accept the same cargo = together 23:25:02 <Stablean> <V453000> and make trains transfer cargo to these stations 23:25:17 <Stablean> <V453000> and we can distribute the cargo by another trians 23:25:19 <Stablean> <learningottd> okay 23:25:21 <Stablean> <V453000> doing 1->2 23:25:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> one line to drop and one line to pickup, and two lines for exit? 23:26:00 <Stablean> <V453000> dont know 23:26:03 <Stablean> <V453000> lets start with L_R 23:26:05 <Stablean> <V453000> most fun 23:26:11 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh thought that was what you meant ^^ 23:26:17 <Stablean> <learningottd> 1>2 23:26:19 <Stablean> <V453000> no 23:26:35 <Stablean> <V453000> I mean splitting 1 cargo into 2 industries in ratio 1:1 23:26:51 <Stablean> <learningottd> it does that automatically? 23:27:01 <Stablean> <V453000> no 23:27:03 <Stablean> <V453000> that is the point 23:27:05 <Stablean> <V453000> we will do it manually 23:27:19 <Stablean> <learningottd> heh, hope you know how to make it 50-50 :p 23:27:20 <Stablean> <V453000> by transferring the cargo to the drop station, not unloading - transfering 23:27:29 <Stablean> <V453000> sure, I have many ways how to do it 23:27:33 <Stablean> <V453000> wil show :) 23:27:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> so uhm 23:28:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> all steel and aluminum goes to a station that is not connected to either work shop or foundry? 23:28:15 <Stablean> <V453000> basically yes 23:28:21 <Stablean> <V453000> and from there we deliver it 23:28:32 <Stablean> <V453000> in some random way, to achieve the 1:1 or whatever we need 23:28:48 <Stablean> <learningottd> allright 23:29:06 <Stablean> <V453000> then there is another thing to consider 23:29:20 <Stablean> <V453000> many secondaries accept manufacturing supplies 23:29:34 <Stablean> <learningottd> yeah 23:29:52 <Stablean> <V453000> we should decide if we want to go nuts and make one huge staion 23:30:06 <Stablean> <V453000> it doesnt have to be 1 station 23:30:13 <Stablean> <V453000> could be a super nice complex 23:30:15 <Stablean> <V453000> of stations 23:30:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> :D 23:31:00 <Stablean> <learningottd> all the secondaries that make food needs manufacturing supplies it seems 23:31:07 <Stablean> <V453000> I would situate it at !this island 23:31:39 <Stablean> <learningottd> big distribution center there? 23:31:43 <Stablean> <V453000> huuuge one 23:31:51 <Stablean> <learningottd> awesum. i like the idea 23:32:05 <Stablean> <V453000> the rest of secondaries we could spread on the other side of map 23:33:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> lots of cities for passenger also 23:33:10 <Stablean> *** BloodyRain2k joined the game 23:33:13 <Stablean> <V453000> I would ignore pax tbh 23:33:24 <Stablean> <learningottd> well yeah at first 23:33:34 <Stablean> <V453000> we are starting to have cash 23:33:41 <Stablean> <learningottd> whatcha wanna build? 23:33:55 <Stablean> <V453000> idk 23:34:15 <Stablean> <learningottd> so much to do o.o 23:34:49 <Stablean> <learningottd> another coal mine close to the other 23:34:55 <Stablean> <V453000> grab that 23:35:01 <Stablean> <learningottd> walking or? 23:35:03 <Stablean> <V453000> lets get some more cash so we can both build in a full speed 23:35:07 <Stablean> <V453000> no 23:35:09 <Stablean> <V453000> normal connect 23:35:21 <Stablean> <learningottd> aiiit 23:35:43 <Stablean> <learningottd> shit 23:35:47 <Stablean> <learningottd> bridges are retarded 23:36:05 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to danuker 23:36:09 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 23:36:13 <Stablean> <danuker> hi again 23:36:54 <Stablean> <danuker> lol junkyard 23:37:25 <Stablean> <learningottd> faster clicker than me 23:37:31 <Stablean> <learningottd> i use touchpad so low apm! 23:37:49 <Stablean> <V453000> lol 23:38:32 <Stablean> <learningottd> isnt it gonna be a bitch later to evenly distribute engineering supplies to all primaries that need it? 23:38:38 <Stablean> <V453000> nah 23:38:44 <Stablean> <V453000> we can manage that 23:38:54 <Stablean> <V453000> maybe not equally 23:38:56 <Stablean> <V453000> but that doesnt matter 23:39:02 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya 23:39:05 <Stablean> <V453000> it can be usd even better 23:39:11 <Stablean> <V453000> sometimes you can re-balance the map 23:39:18 <Stablean> <V453000> because you increase the industries you want to 23:39:33 <Stablean> <learningottd> oh ok 23:40:34 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> i hate cabooses... 23:40:36 <Stablean> <V453000> also, I created train groups 23:40:46 <Stablean> <learningottd> ah yes 23:40:55 <Stablean> <V453000> so if you need new trains, either copy a same-cargo one, or create new group and group it 23:41:02 <Stablean> <V453000> with this many cargoes, we need it :) 23:41:09 <Stablean> <learningottd> -.- 23:41:23 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> never used categories yet XD 23:41:44 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 23:42:11 <Stablean> <V453000> cabooses aint that evil :p 23:42:30 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, but I'm not used to them XD 23:43:35 <Stablean> <learningottd> i can see now why you need good plans for your games, else it turns into chaos 23:43:54 <Stablean> <V453000> which so far our network it :p 23:44:02 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> btw is there a key to open something like a chat log? or is the console the only way to see past text? 23:44:05 <Stablean> <learningottd> ya 23:44:11 <Stablean> <V453000> console 23:44:17 <Stablean> <danuker> above the tab button 23:44:47 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> ok, so only console window. Is there maybe a chat log save command for it? Just wondering 23:45:02 <Stablean> <V453000> dont know any 23:45:08 <Stablean> <danuker> i am wondering as well 23:45:18 <Stablean> <learningottd> console seems unscrollable 23:45:21 <Stablean> <danuker> must check the site 23:45:31 <Stablean> <V453000> shift+arrows por down 23:45:34 <Stablean> <V453000> scrolling 23:45:52 <Stablean> <danuker> cool 23:45:54 <Stablean> <learningottd> then its possible 23:46:02 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, cause yesterday I met my first TTDLX griefer, minge, whatever you call idiots XD and I wanted to save the log but did it too late 23:47:49 <Stablean> *** danuker has left the game (connection lost) 23:48:03 <Stablean> <V453000> to !this island 23:48:57 <Stablean> <learningottd> yap 23:49:39 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> these steampowered locs have a better acceleration than vanilla maglevs I think ^^ 23:49:53 <Stablean> <V453000> what has worse accel than vMaglevs 23:50:02 <Stablean> <V453000> put it that way 23:50:08 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> xD 23:50:10 <Stablean> <learningottd> ^^ 23:50:29 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> well I think they need some down point to make up their topspeed ^^ 23:50:47 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> you guys are missing a rail tile here 23:50:49 <Stablean> <V453000> they have too many downpoints already 23:51:01 <Stablean> <V453000> thanks 23:51:15 <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> np, just saw it while look at your rails ^^ 23:53:28 <Stablean> <V453000> ya