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00:00:09 <Stablean> <Energizer> I they make it so that a plane can crash... on a railroad 00:00:15 <Stablean> <Energizer> try to plan around THAT 00:00:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 00:00:21 <Stablean> <Energizer> ;D 00:00:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Mout burst rockets on the train 00:00:39 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> driver sees impending crash 00:00:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> vroooom 00:00:42 <Stablean> <Big Badger> I enjoyed yhe old UFO landings 00:00:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 00:00:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *Mount 00:00:52 <Stablean> <Big Badger> where you couldnt tell where it had fucked up your rail system next 00:01:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That would severely annoy me. 00:01:50 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean if breakdowns should be somewhat fun it should be made so trains won't breakdown at all if you service them at a regular intervall 00:02:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Especially while debugging broken signaling, and then, ages later, I'd discover that some UFO mistook some of my track for a cowfield.. 00:02:15 <Stablean> <V453000> OR after some period of time after visiting a depot 00:02:20 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 00:02:24 <Stablean> <V453000> not that they break down right after leaving it 00:02:25 <Stablean> <V453000> -.- 00:02:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> They should always have a chance of breaking down. However, it should be really small. 00:02:49 <Stablean> <V453000> no 00:02:49 <Stablean> <Mks> like 100 days after visiting depot it won't breakdown and then increase % the longer after 00:02:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> and/or they should require more frequent servicing when less reliable. 00:02:52 <Stablean> <Mks> or something like that 00:02:54 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 00:03:01 <Stablean> <V453000> but well 00:03:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am just talking about that reliability should matter. 00:03:09 <Stablean> <V453000> no breakdowns is still best :p 00:03:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I can absolutely live without them. :p 00:03:34 <Stablean> <Big Badger> unloading is faster in this version 00:03:36 <Stablean> <Mks> well sure in theory a train could breakdown after it visited service but its something that normally never happens 00:03:46 <Stablean> <Mks> well served trains hardly ever breakdown 00:03:48 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy has left the game (leaving) 00:04:00 <Stablean> <kuch3n> not in germany 00:04:07 <Stablean> <Mks> just look at the japanese train network its like 2 mins late on a whole year 00:04:09 <Stablean> <kuch3n> like i told: caused by people 00:04:11 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But trains that are unreliable should at least require more frequent servicing. 00:04:14 <Stablean> <Mks> that means you have no breakdowns 00:04:25 <Stablean> <Mks> well thats one thing 00:04:49 <Stablean> <V453000> each train could have different intervals of required servicing 00:04:51 <Stablean> <V453000> no problem 00:05:01 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> there should be some penality for choosing a train that can escape a crashing airplane but has a reliability rating of 60% or something. 00:05:11 <Stablean> <kuch3n> The German Train Company told about a engine damage.. 30min later it goes on oO 00:09:11 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:12:53 <Stablean> <Energizer> im off then guys 00:12:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> good night 00:13:01 <Stablean> <kuch3n> gn8 00:13:01 <Stablean> <V453000> cya 00:13:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> See ya 00:13:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Have a nice. 00:13:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 00:13:09 <Stablean> <Energizer> bb :P 00:13:15 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (leaving) 00:14:21 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 00:23:58 <Stablean> <V453000> is that PBS defender still around? 00:24:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 00:24:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yes 00:24:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Big Badger 00:24:16 <Stablean> <V453000> good 00:24:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> lol@"that PBS defender" xP 00:24:47 <Stablean> <V453000> my stee pickup should convince him 00:24:49 <Stablean> <V453000> steel 00:25:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> well, he said that he used pre signals for stations. 00:25:05 <Stablean> <V453000> and this is only the beginning :) 00:25:19 <Stablean> <V453000> all of these principles are fully usable for lines 00:25:25 <Stablean> <V453000> no difference pretty much 00:25:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I have not had a look at it yet, can't tell. XD 00:25:52 <Stablean> *** Big Badger has left the game (leaving) 00:26:02 <Stablean> <V453000> lmao 00:26:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :s 00:35:42 <Stablean> <kuch3n> d3d3, awesome stations.... 00:36:04 <Stablean> <V453000> omg 00:36:06 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 00:36:24 <Stablean> <kuch3n> kinda raping 00:40:18 <Stablean> <d3d3> how can i forward all trains with destination in one station to another without go one by one? 00:40:40 <Stablean> <kuch3n> "non-stop" in order menu 00:41:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I think what he's talking about is changing train orders for a group of trains all at once. 00:41:14 <Stablean> <d3d3> i have to add new destination one by one anyway 00:41:16 <Stablean> <d3d3> maybe groups 00:41:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I know it's done with groups, however, I have not done it so far. 00:41:24 <Stablean> <V453000> no 00:41:26 <Stablean> <V453000> shared orders 00:41:32 <Stablean> <d3d3> ah ok 00:41:34 <Stablean> <V453000> ctrl+click while cloning trains 00:41:44 <Stablean> <d3d3> thx 00:41:50 <Stablean> <V453000> or whíle ordering them 00:42:02 <Stablean> <V453000> just ctrl click on other train to share order list with it 00:42:08 <Stablean> <V453000> anytime you change one, others follow 00:42:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Nice 00:42:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 00:42:17 <Stablean> <d3d3> :) 00:42:30 <Stablean> <kuch3n> V453000: good to know :D 00:42:35 <Stablean> <kuch3n> make life easier 00:42:39 <Stablean> <V453000> although groups have a bit of a role in it ... shared orders allow also grouping trains by shared orders 00:42:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 00:44:59 <Stablean> <V453000> ok 00:44:59 <Stablean> <V453000> im off 00:45:01 <Stablean> <V453000> cya tomorrow 00:45:05 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 00:45:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> See ya. 00:45:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :o 00:45:17 <Stablean> <kuch3n> noooooooooooooooooooooooooo 00:45:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Need help? 00:45:56 <Stablean> <kuch3n> yea, my lines aint long enough :> 00:46:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Tell early enough if you need money 00:46:16 <Stablean> <kuch3n> k, thanks 00:46:18 <V453000> oh and by the way 00:46:31 <V453000> inform anyone who dares to invade my island that he is potentially DEAD. :P 00:46:42 <Stablean> <kuch3n> which island?? 00:46:47 <V453000> ... 00:46:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The island with tons of tracks and stations. 00:46:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 00:47:07 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ah 00:47:10 <Stablean> <kuch3n> sarningville 00:47:33 <V453000> gnight already :) 00:47:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Baba 00:47:39 <Stablean> <kuch3n> gn8 00:49:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> >_> 00:49:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I told you x_X 00:49:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> D: 00:49:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Say something. ;o; 00:49:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Should I buy or leave it? 00:49:57 <Stablean> <kuch3n> buy it then :> 00:49:59 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has joined spectators 00:50:03 <Stablean> <kuch3n> :> 00:50:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 00:50:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Tycoooooon 00:50:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> ;3 00:50:10 <Stablean> <kuch3n> it gives 20k a month :> 00:50:14 <Stablean> <kuch3n> *year 00:50:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xDD@awesome 00:50:45 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has started a new company (#6) 00:51:54 <Stablean> *** Extro has left the game (leaving) 00:54:34 <Stablean> *** Extro joined the game 00:56:11 <Stablean> *** Extro has left the game (connection lost) 01:13:29 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (connection lost) 01:14:01 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 01:14:54 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (connection lost) 01:15:21 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 01:20:23 <Stablean> *** eyescream has left the game (leaving) 01:22:58 <Stablean> *** d3d3 has left the game (leaving) 01:55:25 <Stablean> <kuch3n> only 8 :) 02:09:20 <Stablean> <kuch3n> fucking entrance exit signals are annoying like hell -.-" 02:38:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> o.o 03:37:31 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (leaving) 03:38:03 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 03:38:46 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (connection lost) 03:47:08 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop.stable 04:58:48 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 05:02:39 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop.stable 05:42:18 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has joined spectators 05:42:18 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:01:05 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 06:38:16 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:38:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:52:21 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 06:54:04 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (leaving) 07:43:25 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:43:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 09:12:13 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:12:21 <Stablean> <V453000> elo 09:12:35 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 09:12:37 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:24:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 10:24:07 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:44:21 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:44:22 <Stablean> *** robert joined the game 10:44:55 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 10:45:08 <Stablean> *** robert has left the game (connection lost) 10:58:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 10:59:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:59:33 <Stablean> <Mks> wasn't long you stayed :P 11:01:29 <V453000> :) just founded the steel mill that died due to some jams :p 11:01:36 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 11:02:00 <Stablean> *** robert joined the game 11:02:16 <Stablean> *** robert has left the game (connection lost) 11:02:39 <Stablean> *** kaiZen joined the game 11:02:47 <Stablean> <Mks> mm I guess 41 tile bridges and 3 isn't really enough? 11:03:04 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:03:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:04:33 <Stablean> <kaiZen> pink 11:04:39 <Stablean> <kaiZen> why not make double bridges? :o 11:05:13 <Stablean> <Mks> pink isn' 11:05:16 <Stablean> <Mks> online I think 11:05:22 <Stablean> <kaiZen> ahh 11:05:26 <Stablean> <kaiZen> so long bridges 11:05:36 <Stablean> <kaiZen> should allways use double bridges with such a traffic 11:06:18 <Stablean> <Mks> I am using at least 3 briges 11:06:25 <Stablean> <Mks> since well to expensive to make small islands 11:06:43 <Stablean> <kaiZen> well it really depends how long the bridge is 11:06:50 <Stablean> <kaiZen> really tall then ye-make 3 bridges 11:06:56 <Stablean> <kaiZen> long** 11:07:02 <Stablean> <Mks> well my longest is 56 tiles 11:07:12 <Stablean> <kaiZen> ahhh 11:08:05 <Stablean> *** kaiZen has left the game (leaving) 11:29:13 <Stablean> *** Energizer joined the game 11:29:28 <Stablean> <Energizer> hi folks 11:29:47 <Stablean> <Mks> hi 11:30:13 <Stablean> <Energizer> hey mks 11:30:18 <Stablean> <Energizer> youre the only one here? 11:31:21 <Stablean> <Mks> seems so atm 11:31:23 <Stablean> <Mks> at least 11:31:27 <Stablean> <Mks> V was here a while ago 11:36:09 <Stablean> <Mks> why are the newer trams less ppl in thats lousy 11:46:17 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:59:24 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 11:59:24 *** PeterT has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Leg3nd^ has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Mks has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** V453000 has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Ammler has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Vitus has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Aziroshin has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** Stablean has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 11:59:25 *** tneo has quit IRC 12:03:03 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** synthon.oftc.net sets mode: +ooov KenjiE20 ODM planetmaker planetmaker 12:03:03 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** Aziroshin has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** Mks has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** Leg3nd^ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** synthon.oftc.net sets mode: +vooo Stablean V453000 Ammler SmatZ 12:03:03 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:03:03 *** synthon.oftc.net sets mode: +voov SmatZ tneo PeterT PeterT 12:03:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 12:03:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 12:25:10 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 12:26:29 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 12:29:47 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 12:30:32 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 12:40:30 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (leaving) 12:41:17 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 12:43:30 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 12:44:11 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 12:44:21 <Stablean> <V453000> Player: please change your nickname 12:49:39 <Stablean> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 13:02:49 <Stablean> <Mks> V do you know its very easy to spend all your money on this server? 13:04:43 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:07:19 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 13:07:23 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 13:07:38 <Stablean> <Mks> raise 1 tile in the sea is expensive 13:07:46 <Stablean> <V453000> thats good 13:08:08 <Stablean> <V453000> the map is very islandish, and it is supported by water being more of a borderline 13:10:57 <Stablean> <V453000> you are quite not supposed to build on water btw :p 13:15:09 <Stablean> <Mks> so you mean Ia m not suppose to build long bridges like I have? 13:20:32 <Stablean> <kuch3n> hi 13:21:24 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has started a new company (#6) 13:26:08 <Stablean> *** kaiZen joined the game 13:30:16 <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: I find it odd :) 13:30:54 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ure living guys \o/ 13:31:04 <Stablean> <Mks> ofc we are playing 13:31:07 <Stablean> <V453000> staying on islands and finding more suitable (shorter) bridgings and such, is better :) 13:31:09 <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi :) 13:31:27 <Stablean> <Mks> well I have one short coal line now 13:32:17 <Stablean> *** kaiZen has left the game (leaving) 13:33:03 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Someone got a shot fo rme? 13:33:57 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx joined the game 13:35:08 <Ammler> !server_status 13:35:08 <Stablean> Ammler: 15:35pm up 6 days 3:23, 2 users, load average: 0.62, 0.57, 0.55 13:35:09 <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 10.2% us, 1.7% sy, 6.4% ni, 81.5% id, 0.1% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si 13:35:09 <Stablean> Ammler: 3885 ottdc 26 10 144m 42m 4292 S 20 2.1 954:44.54 ./stable -c openttd 13:35:15 <Ammler> new game? 13:35:17 <Ammler> !date 13:35:17 <Stablean> Ammler: 29 May 1974 13:35:33 <Stablean> <Mks> well not the same as last evening 13:35:35 <Stablean> *** kaiZen joined the game 13:35:45 <Stablean> <Mks> but lots to do in this one still 13:35:46 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:35:47 <Stablean> <kuch3n> the last game was pritty nice 13:36:51 <Stablean> <kaiZen> why cross road with railroad? 13:37:37 <Stablean> <Mks> where have that been done? 13:38:50 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has started a new company (#10) 13:40:18 <V453000> Ammler: ? 13:42:25 <Ammler> V453000: don't get the question :-) 13:42:35 <V453000> why new game :) 13:42:38 <V453000> I reset yesterday 13:42:44 <V453000> server load doesnt seem to be that high :) 13:43:14 <Stablean> <kuch3n> what are the specs of the server? 13:44:33 <Ammler> V453000: that will change :-) 13:44:45 <V453000> :o ? 13:45:02 <Ammler> the new server won't have a client, which can compate 13:45:11 <V453000> oh :) 13:45:43 <Stablean> <kuch3n> somebodys got a shot for me? :) 13:45:48 <Ammler> kuchen: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz 13:45:57 <Ammler> (new) 13:46:02 <V453000> shot for wut? 13:46:10 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:46:19 <V453000> anyway gtg ... post office -.- 13:46:21 <V453000> laters :p 13:46:41 <Stablean> *** kaiZen has left the game (leaving) 13:46:44 <Ammler> current: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz 13:46:45 <Stablean> <kuch3n> w 13:46:51 <Stablean> <kuch3n> financial shot :> 13:47:09 <Stablean> <kuch3n> why gets the server that laggy like yesterday? 13:47:10 <V453000> oh :) 13:47:20 <V453000> vehicles probably 13:47:25 <V453000> road vehicles mainly :) 13:47:29 <Ammler> ps: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz 13:47:31 <V453000> and big map 13:47:43 <Stablean> <Mks> isn't this map same size tho? 13:47:49 <planetmaker> Ammler, but it's only one CPU ;-) and load is at ~ 1.8 13:47:49 <Stablean> <kuch3n> yes 13:48:12 <planetmaker> currently. All will get better :-P 13:48:25 <Ammler> [15:35] <Stablean> Ammler: 15:35pm up 6 days 3:23, 2 users, load average: 0.62, 0.57, 0.55 13:48:39 <planetmaker> oh, was different yesterday when I checked. Same game or new? 13:48:43 <Ammler> yep 13:48:54 <Ammler> they stopped the game because of server 13:49:00 <planetmaker> :-) good 13:49:43 <Ammler> I wonder, how well ht works with openttd 13:49:47 <Stablean> <Mks> so your getting a new server soon? 13:49:59 <Ammler> we have it already 13:50:04 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh but not used? 13:50:09 <Ammler> I just are quite slow with setup :-) 13:50:17 <Stablean> <Mks> I see 13:50:24 <Stablean> <Mks> so within a month then :P 13:50:33 <Ammler> with today? 13:50:38 <Ammler> in* 13:53:45 <Stablean> <kuch3n> is the server compiled with debugging? 13:54:55 <Ammler> don't think so... 13:58:49 <Stablean> *** Timmaexx has left the game (leaving) 13:59:39 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 14:01:23 <Stablean> <kuch3n> rating of transport service? oo 14:02:44 <Stablean> <kuch3n> aircraft :D 14:04:14 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Mks, uve got some Money for me? :) 14:04:34 <Stablean> <Mks> I am not really that rich this time 14:04:41 <Stablean> <Mks> you seem to still have some 14:05:19 <Stablean> <kuch3n> faster growing :) 14:15:35 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Saver Transport, go down! -.-2 14:15:38 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Saber* 14:15:44 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 14:16:01 <Stablean> <kuch3n> V453000: Can u close down Saber Transport? cant wait to get the mines :> 14:16:13 <Stablean> <V453000> no I cant :) 14:16:38 <Stablean> <V453000> oh he is gone 14:16:40 <Stablean> <V453000> hmm 14:16:43 <Stablean> <V453000> I see 14:17:02 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 9 14:17:03 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 14:17:11 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ty :) 14:34:20 <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: !missing 14:34:40 <Stablean> <Mks> thnx 14:34:42 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 14:35:11 <Stablean> <Mks> the big island town is quite big now 14:35:14 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 14:39:06 <Stablean> <kuch3n> <invalid cargo> ? 14:39:12 <Stablean> <V453000> ignore it 14:39:30 <Stablean> <V453000> it does nothing nor replaces anything 14:42:32 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 14:45:08 <Stablean> <Mks> I guess making TL 1 cargo trains ain't very good 14:45:22 <Stablean> <V453000> especially for server 14:45:32 <Stablean> <Mks> lol 14:45:40 <Stablean> <Mks> but your using TL 3 right 14:45:42 <Stablean> <V453000> so it could easily be considered game spoiling 14:45:55 <Stablean> <Mks> wouldn't everyone using TL 20 be the best? 14:46:08 <Stablean> <V453000> TL3 is ideal TL 14:46:11 <Stablean> <Mks> why? 14:46:17 <Stablean> <kuch3n> TL? 14:46:24 <Stablean> <V453000> short curves, fun, good acceleration usually 14:46:37 <Stablean> <kuch3n> what is a TL? 14:46:39 <Stablean> <Mks> whats wrong with TL2? 14:46:42 <Stablean> <Mks> train lenght 14:46:54 <Stablean> <kuch3n> 3 Wagons is ideal? 14:46:54 <planetmaker> 'ideal' assumes a metric which you measure 'good', 'bad' and 'excellent' against 14:47:06 <Stablean> <V453000> wha? 14:47:15 <planetmaker> such metric is anything but not universal 14:47:31 <Stablean> <Mks> no not 3 wagons 3 lenght station tile thats like 1 loco 5 wagons in most cases 14:47:41 <Stablean> <kuch3n> ahh 14:47:44 <planetmaker> As such a discussion of 'ideal' vs 'ideal' is kinda pointless, unless you define before what you want 14:48:19 <planetmaker> money, realism, cargo-throughput, station rating, industry output. 14:48:25 <planetmaker> All have a different answer to TL 14:48:32 <Stablean> <V453000> we were quite talking about cargo trains 14:48:42 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah TL 3 isn't very realistic acually way to short trains 14:48:44 <Stablean> <Mks> maybe for pax 14:48:48 <Stablean> <Mks> but not for cargo 14:48:54 <Stablean> <V453000> realistic = not game 14:49:04 <Stablean> <kuch3n> for short distance TL3, for long TL7 14:50:54 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} joined the game 14:51:09 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> hi 14:51:12 <Stablean> <V453000> hello 14:51:24 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> This maps needs ships :( 14:51:25 <planetmaker> <Stablean> <V453000> we were quite talking about cargo trains <-- so do I 14:51:34 <planetmaker> But there are way more ways to define 'ideal' 14:51:38 <Stablean> <V453000> of course 14:51:44 <Stablean> <kuch3n> Ships \o/ 14:51:45 <planetmaker> and TL3 certainly is not THE answer 14:51:55 <planetmaker> nor is TL7 or TL5 or TL20 14:51:57 <planetmaker> but each can 14:56:17 <Stablean> <Mks> well TL20 was for server load 14:56:25 <Stablean> <Mks> means ppl ahve less vehicles probarbly 14:57:57 <planetmaker> It's also the 'ideal' solution, if you want to move much cargo between big stations 14:58:07 <planetmaker> if those trains don't have to wait 14:58:21 <planetmaker> the cargo density on tracks is maximized with long trains 14:58:31 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 14:58:52 <Stablean> <Mks> but you need dual tracks each direction faster with long trains 14:59:08 <planetmaker> why? 14:59:17 <Stablean> <Mks> well 14:59:55 <Stablean> <Mks> I needed like dual tracks on a coal line with like 130 TL 11 trains 15:00:07 <Stablean> <Mks> or a better station exist 15:00:14 <Stablean> <Mks> trains had to wait at the exit 15:00:17 <planetmaker> and why do you think you wouldn't need that, if you used TL5 on the same thing? 15:00:24 <Stablean> <Mks> well 15:00:27 <Stablean> <Mks> it was a long line 15:00:34 <Stablean> <Mks> so probarbly could have some more small trains 15:00:35 <planetmaker> yes, so? 15:00:55 <planetmaker> I still fail to see any argument why you need more tracks for long trains 15:01:11 <Stablean> <kuch3n> nice city in the water :D 15:01:13 <planetmaker> the only difference is a bigger curve radius and more bulky station entrances and exits 15:01:13 <Stablean> <Mks> well you need more tracks for same amount of trains with long compared to short 15:01:22 <planetmaker> Mks, you don't 15:01:31 <planetmaker> well. Same _amount_ yes 15:01:49 <planetmaker> But you choose your trains depending upon the cargo to be transported. 15:01:56 <planetmaker> And not like "let's build 50 trains" 15:01:57 <Stablean> <kuch3n> planetmaker from where are u talking? 15:02:18 <Stablean> <Mks> he is talking from IRC 15:02:23 <planetmaker> So the assumption that you need earlier double-tracking is right, if you go by the amount of trains. But that's IMHO the wrong scale for 'earlier' 15:02:40 <planetmaker> as the temporal sequence is rather defined by cargo amount to be carried 15:02:51 <Mks> I see 15:03:10 <Mks> so you mean same amount of cargo acually need less tracks per cargo with long trains? 15:03:31 <Stablean> <V453000> sure 15:04:14 <planetmaker> Mks, yes 15:04:42 <Stablean> <Mks> this server only supports TL 18 trains thought 15:04:53 <planetmaker> you can make longer :-P 15:04:59 <Stablean> <Mks> well 15:05:00 <planetmaker> But they'd load for eternity ;-) 15:05:05 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah but station size is max 18 15:05:17 <planetmaker> yup ;-) 15:07:22 <planetmaker> e.g. long coal trains make sense, if you have two big mines close to each other. 15:07:43 <Stablean> <Mks> or you can make a trasnfer station 15:07:46 <planetmaker> or if you play a game with distribution points and small local networks delivering to those distribution points 15:07:50 <planetmaker> yup :-) 15:07:52 <Stablean> <Mks> short trains unload at a large long train station 15:08:51 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ja? 15:09:01 <Stablean> <V453000> nein 15:09:11 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> oops should be typed into x fire 15:10:18 <Mks> !tunnel 15:10:18 <Stablean> Mks: !tunnel <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 15:10:43 <Stablean> <Mks> does the tunnel commando works ingame? 15:10:49 <planetmaker> nope 15:10:54 <Stablean> <Mks> it does 15:11:05 <planetmaker> it does? 15:11:24 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 15:11:32 <planetmaker> makes me wonder. But fine :-) 15:14:38 <Stablean> <Mks> it shouldn't work? 15:15:41 <planetmaker> It's fine if it works. I thought it didn't, though 15:15:54 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 15:16:20 <Stablean> <Mks> well thats one bad thing about short TL you need LOADS of tunnels/bridges if you have a long tunnel/bridge 15:16:35 <planetmaker> :-) 15:16:50 <planetmaker> 1TT ;-) 15:16:54 <Stablean> <V453000> hehe 15:17:08 <Stablean> <V453000> there even the shortest tunnels can make trouble 15:17:19 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 15:18:27 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 15:19:14 <Stablean> <Mks> is there anyway to make trains not slow down so much at stations? 15:19:24 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean its no problem with short trains but with long trains 15:19:24 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 15:19:34 <Stablean> <V453000> not really, they always slow 15:19:45 <Stablean> <V453000> but you can provide braking space in front of station 15:19:52 <Stablean> <V453000> so they dont slow others who come into the station 15:19:58 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah but doesn't really solve the problem 15:20:12 <Stablean> <Mks> helps some ofc 15:20:36 <Stablean> <Mks> whats up with Factory Goods pickup btw? 15:20:42 <Stablean> <V453000> what would be 15:20:44 <Stablean> <Mks> seems over complicated that mess 15:20:56 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 15:21:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello :p 15:21:02 <Stablean> <V453000> fine for me 15:21:02 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 15:21:16 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> hi 15:21:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD Tram Invasion stopped. :p 15:21:22 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh you've addes some prioritores? 15:21:33 <Stablean> <V453000> not exactly 15:21:36 <Stablean> <V453000> but presignal lines, yes 15:22:03 <Stablean> <Mks> its not exactly a small station :P 15:22:12 <Stablean> <Mks> considering your only using TL 3 15:22:39 <Stablean> <V453000> it is extremely effective 15:23:31 <Stablean> <Mks> ok so I acually found the entrance tracks 15:23:33 <Stablean> <Mks> but 15:23:39 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't get what all the extra tracks are for 15:23:44 <Stablean> <V453000> you dont need to :) 15:24:06 <Stablean> <Mks> mm you have a loop I guess thats if the station is full 15:24:50 <Stablean> <Mks> azir I see your useing your favorite locos 15:25:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Heh 15:25:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 15:25:25 <Stablean> <Mks> I acually am using trams this time 15:25:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, wouldnt call them "the" favourite locos of mine, but I sure like them. 15:25:49 <Stablean> <Mks> well you like them well enough to prefer them over better ones :) 15:25:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's especially cool if you have more than one of them on a train. 15:25:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, I do. 15:26:01 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 15:26:11 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> They are one of my favourite locos, indeed. 15:27:35 <Stablean> <Mks> why are some trams so sdamn small? 15:27:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> sizewise or regarding their look? 15:27:56 <Stablean> <Mks> well I mean capacity 15:28:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I don't know. 15:28:05 <Stablean> <Mks> like a dual tram only holding 16 pax 15:28:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> They sure aren't realistic sizes. 15:28:18 <Stablean> <Mks> that doesn't really make sense 15:33:55 <Stablean> <Mks> for example about trams the GETA holds alot more pax then the GVBA even tho the GVBA is bigger 15:34:00 <Stablean> <Mks> sizie wise 15:34:42 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> THe tram isn't called GETA 15:34:52 <Stablean> <V453000> ... 15:34:54 <Stablean> <V453000> we all know what is going on 15:35:01 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> because you may possible get more then one type GETA 15:42:05 <Stablean> <Mks> weöö GETA Beijnes 76 BNS then 15:42:17 <Stablean> <Mks> well 15:47:04 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:42 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 15:50:40 <Stablean> *** ZS joined the game 15:51:00 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 15:53:52 <Stablean> *** ZS has left the game (connection lost) 15:54:11 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:54:15 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ack 15:54:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I was just watching him building. XD 15:55:59 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 15:58:15 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Hmm of which company will i use trams HTM GVB or RET (the hague, amsterdam or rotterdam) 15:59:02 <Stablean> <V453000> cant use various? 15:59:43 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> No don't like it when an amsterdam tram runs next to a tram from rotterdam 15:59:57 <Stablean> <V453000> ... 16:01:43 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> People have their own ways of playing the game. Not all of them are better or worse than others. o: 16:02:17 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Daam Rotterdamse Electrische Tram is too long as company name :( 16:02:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> As in, some may be comparable and judgeable, and some are just beyond judgeing. 16:02:56 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> New comapny name ! 16:04:31 <Stablean> <V453000> Aziroshin: wtf are you talking about 16:05:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You commented with "..." :p 16:06:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> His use of trams is a matter of taste, not "good" or "bad" or anything like that. 16:24:22 <Stablean> <Mks> mm I just wasted all my money on trying to fix the bridges 16:24:30 <Stablean> <Mks> and ended up with not being able to finnish it 16:24:48 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :< 16:25:02 <Stablean> <V453000> Aziroshin: prepare to buy him ! :D 16:25:12 <Stablean> <Mks> 30 mil pounds in the drain 16:25:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xDD 16:25:20 <Stablean> <Mks> well 16:25:32 <Stablean> <Mks> I have the line compelete just lacking some parts 16:25:51 <Stablean> <V453000> well 16:25:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, I'll only buy him if he doesn't object (if he doesn't intend to start in the same area) 16:26:09 <Stablean> <V453000> with the traffic you got you could make 2 bridges each direction and be more than safe 16:26:11 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Or, well, if he'd be gone and go bankrupt, I'd buy him too. I mean, someone else would build there then and take the space anyway. 16:26:13 <Stablean> <Mks> I won't go bankrupt :P 16:26:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I might also decide to just not buy someone for the map to last longer due ot the free space created.. XD 16:27:29 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't earn enough to TF water really 16:27:44 <Stablean> <V453000> thats good 16:27:50 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 16:27:52 <Stablean> <Mks> not really :P 16:28:08 <Stablean> <Mks> I prerfer dual bridges over like 4-5 16:28:14 <Stablean> <Mks> looks more slim 16:28:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> V already stated that the water in this game is more of a seperator. 16:28:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> As in, in this one game here with the islands and stuff. 16:28:37 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I know 16:28:45 <Stablean> <Mks> but 16:28:55 <Stablean> <Mks> I am still gona cross the water :P 16:29:05 <Stablean> <V453000> then you have bad positioning and it is your problem :) 16:29:07 <Stablean> <Mks> well at least with the line I've alrdy built 16:29:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I like stolen trees. =D 16:30:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Whoever stole them stole pretty good trees. =3 16:30:09 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 16:40:09 <Stablean> <Mks> how are we suppose to connect oil rigs? 16:40:18 <Stablean> <Mks> with insane land cost raise and no boats 16:40:33 <Stablean> <V453000> you arent required to connect them btw 16:40:47 <Stablean> <Mks> I know :) 16:41:13 <Stablean> <Mks> gah probarbly need another 50 mil pounds to finnish my "new" bridge 16:44:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Finally, MKs has something to spend his ridiculous amounts of money on. 16:44:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 16:45:09 <Stablean> <Mks> well 16:45:14 <Stablean> <Mks> I think V have more money then me 16:46:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, he has less money than what you sunk into some bridge. XD 16:46:37 <Stablean> <Mks> true he do earn more then me thought 16:47:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Reminds me that I do have quite some money too, now. 16:47:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 16:47:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> In comparison to what I had before I went to sleep. 16:47:26 <Stablean> <Mks> you can help me with my bridge :P 16:47:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> wow, nice town 16:47:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 16:48:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Don't tell me you terraformed this town out of the water. XD 16:48:20 <Stablean> <Mks> you mean fort wefingbridge? 16:48:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yes 16:48:35 <Stablean> <Mks> naa the island was alrdy there 16:48:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay. XD 16:48:39 <Stablean> <Mks> only added roads 16:48:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 16:48:52 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The tram bridges. 16:48:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Nice. 16:49:00 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> You should connect it to th emainland at WArningbridge 16:49:08 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> warninghead srry 16:49:08 <Stablean> <Mks> no 16:49:16 <Stablean> <Mks> I disconnected it from land 16:49:22 <Stablean> <Mks> used to be connected 16:49:22 <Stablean> <Mks> but 16:49:28 <Stablean> <Mks> didn't want that :) 16:49:41 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> WArninghead funny name 16:52:57 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 16:55:36 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 16:55:51 <Stablean> <Henri> ji 16:55:51 <Stablean> <V453000> elo 16:56:05 <Stablean> <Henri> hi* 16:56:11 <Stablean> <V453000> gi 17:00:47 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 17:06:24 <Stablean> <V453000> hmm im off to get something to eat :) 17:06:26 <Stablean> <V453000> later 17:06:28 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:06:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Later. :o 17:06:38 <Stablean> <Mks> gah 17:06:52 <Stablean> <Mks> wasted a few millions clikcing the wrong place 17:07:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> x_X 17:07:51 <Stablean> <Mks> I hate these slow bridges 17:07:59 <Stablean> <Mks> trains go twice as fast as the bridge now 17:08:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 17:08:09 <Stablean> <Mks> its tobad you can't build tunnels under the water 17:08:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> My trains go 72 at max. 17:08:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 17:08:49 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 17:08:51 <Stablean> <Mks> well 17:08:53 <Stablean> <Mks> at that speed 17:08:57 <Stablean> <Mks> nothing matters 17:09:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Depends 17:09:09 <Stablean> <Mks> even 45 degree turns 17:09:11 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Wood bridges 'd be too slow.XD 17:09:26 <Stablean> <Mks> there is 88km/h 17:09:28 <Stablean> <Mks> if train is to long 17:09:32 <Stablean> <Mks> true 17:09:40 <Stablean> <Mks> thats what I had in the begining 17:09:46 <Stablean> <Mks> sure was slow :) 17:10:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> One thing that matters with tram engines is their power 17:10:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> With more than a few wagons, you need more tram engines per train. =D 17:10:34 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 17:10:39 <Stablean> <Mks> well 17:10:49 <Stablean> <Mks> you can have more locos on anormal train as well 17:10:54 <Stablean> <Mks> I use 2 on my long coal trains 17:10:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Of course you can 17:11:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But where you need two, you need three/four tram engines. 17:12:21 <Stablean> <Mks> well I had 4 locos in the las game 17:13:01 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Out of fun or because you needed them? 17:13:11 <Stablean> <Mks> well needed 17:13:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Then you'd have needed like 6-8 tram engines instead. XD 17:13:39 <Stablean> <Mks> haha 17:13:52 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That would be awesome. =D 17:14:04 <Stablean> <Mks> + the tram engine wouldn't reach its destination until it die from old age :P 17:14:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 17:20:36 <Stablean> <V453000> rawr 17:20:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:20:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> o.o 17:24:57 <Stablean> <Mks> I got a tram coal line now 17:25:00 <Stablean> <Mks> using 6 locos 17:25:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 17:25:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Where? 17:25:10 <Stablean> <Mks> Hanway 17:26:02 <Stablean> <Mks> not sure how many locos I needed but added 6 17:26:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> my quad engines go at max speed 17:26:43 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I will check it out 17:26:47 <Stablean> <Mks> it did go max speed empy 17:26:49 <Stablean> <Mks> empty 17:27:17 <Stablean> <Mks> could change the heavy cargo factor to like 10 17:27:17 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Just check out mine 17:27:19 <Stablean> <Mks> then 17:27:26 <Stablean> <Mks> probarbly wouldn't work at all with tram loco :P 17:27:42 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 17:27:52 <Stablean> <Mks> you like old signals as well? 17:27:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Heh 17:27:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 17:28:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> go look at the xD sign 17:28:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> ;) 17:28:42 <Stablean> <Mks> 1 loco 1 wagon huh 17:28:56 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There are two locos with one wagon each 17:29:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> transfering coal 17:29:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 17:29:04 <Stablean> <Mks> haha 17:29:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> On two respective lines over a wooden bridge. 17:29:30 <Stablean> <Mks> why not replace the wooden bridge? 17:29:44 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> When I built it, there were other bridges available already. 17:29:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I never used the wooden bridge, not even in the beginning. 17:29:57 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 17:29:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's just, the line is so short 17:30:03 <Stablean> <Mks> still 17:30:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The engine wouldn't even get up to speed. 17:30:12 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 17:30:16 <Stablean> <Mks> not even with 2 locos? 17:30:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, I did one wagon because there isnt much space. XD 17:30:39 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Also, the trains already are producing losses. 17:30:47 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 17:32:36 <Stablean> *** NTD joined the game 17:34:07 <Stablean> *** NTD has started a new company (#10) 17:35:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> See ya later. :o 17:35:41 <Stablean> <V453000> cya 17:35:43 <Stablean> <Mks> cya 17:35:47 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (leaving) 17:37:46 <Stablean> <Mks> will there ever be under ground building ? 17:37:50 <Stablean> <Mks> like there is in locomotion? 17:38:05 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 17:38:19 <Stablean> <Mks> well 17:38:28 <Stablean> <Mks> ever played locomotion? 17:38:33 <Stablean> <V453000> no 17:38:39 <Stablean> <V453000> you mean like in RCT? 17:38:46 <Stablean> <Mks> yes 17:38:52 <Stablean> <Mks> it works the same in locomotion 17:38:52 <Stablean> <V453000> why would you ever need that here :) 17:38:57 <Stablean> <Mks> well 17:39:09 <Stablean> <Mks> fun to build the lines underground :) 17:39:15 <Stablean> <V453000> ... 17:39:19 <Stablean> <Mks> you can make turns and stuff in tunnels 17:39:25 <Stablean> <Mks> or go up and down 17:39:43 <Aziroshin> Build metros =D 17:39:51 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 17:40:01 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean locomotion has nice looking trains and stuff 17:40:10 <Stablean> <V453000> I dont think that will ever be in openttd and to be honest I would consider it bad 17:40:10 <Stablean> <Mks> but its really lousy to build stuff 17:43:04 <planetmaker> @calc 2.2*365 / 60 17:43:04 <Webster> planetmaker: 13.3833333333 17:47:51 <V453000> minutes /year? 17:51:25 <planetmaker> jo 17:51:29 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:51:50 <planetmaker> @calc 74*0.03 * 365 / 60 17:51:50 <Webster> planetmaker: 13.505 17:51:55 <planetmaker> more acurate actually :-) 17:51:58 <V453000> hehe 17:52:00 <planetmaker> @calc 72*0.03 * 365 / 60 17:52:00 <Webster> planetmaker: 13.14 17:52:03 <planetmaker> hm. 17:52:08 <planetmaker> not sure which :-) 17:52:10 <planetmaker> I think 74 17:52:12 <V453000> :) 17:52:22 <V453000> about 4 years per hour anyway :) 17:52:33 <planetmaker> :-) that's what I usually go by, too 17:53:44 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Who wants to raise one tile of 1 mil? 17:54:02 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 17:54:04 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe I've raised ALOT of tiles 17:54:14 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I need a tile to put on my station 17:54:29 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> but it's to expensive to terrafrom for me 17:54:42 <Stablean> <Mks> for me to I don't have any money left 17:54:56 <Stablean> <V453000> correct station? 17:55:10 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ? 17:55:14 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> yes ty 17:55:16 <Stablean> <V453000> ok 17:55:18 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:55:18 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 17:57:20 <Stablean> *** Tepo joined the game 17:57:26 <Stablean> <Tepo> hi guys 17:57:36 <Stablean> <Mks> hi 17:57:38 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 17:58:05 <Stablean> <Tepo> wow, great network V453000 ;) 17:58:08 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 17:58:10 <Stablean> <V453000> not yet 17:58:35 <Stablean> <Tepo> going to expand away? 17:58:38 <Stablean> <V453000> no why 17:59:00 <Stablean> <Tepo> cause that island is not so big 17:59:06 <Stablean> <V453000> well thats the fun 17:59:24 <Stablean> <Tepo> anyway, i can't build as good network as this, so :) 17:59:36 <Stablean> <Mks> why not? 17:59:48 <Stablean> <Tepo> i am not skilled enough 18:00:04 <Stablean> <Tepo> and i don't want too ;) 18:00:25 <Stablean> <Tepo> i prefer simple playing style 18:00:35 <Stablean> <V453000> this is simple 18:00:49 <Stablean> <Tepo> i don't think so ;) 18:01:04 <Stablean> <Tepo> that bridges near factory looks cool ;) 18:01:12 <Stablean> <V453000> he 18:01:30 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I wouldn't call Vs network simple 18:01:31 <Stablean> <Tepo> for example they're not simple 18:02:04 <Stablean> <V453000> the principle is simple 18:02:10 <Stablean> <V453000> application is worse :p 18:02:18 <Stablean> <Tepo> thats what i mean 18:02:52 <Stablean> <Tepo> for example white network is simple ;) 18:03:02 <Stablean> <V453000> meh 18:03:08 <Stablean> <Tepo> even there are not so much trains 18:03:22 <Stablean> <Tepo> it looks a bit more realistic 18:03:38 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> My network is simple 18:03:51 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Due to it's small 18:04:23 <Stablean> <Tepo> i like middle ones more than big ones ;) 18:04:41 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I like one track diesel ones with samll train and stations 18:04:53 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> passenger offcourse 18:04:57 <Stablean> <Mks> my network is really simple 18:05:49 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I once made a very realistic track by incident it folowed nature perfectly and looked sooo cute 18:06:11 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> with a few old small stone bridges 18:06:24 <Stablean> <V453000> the day people stop using the fucking word realistic in computer gaming will be my new birthday 18:06:28 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 18:06:35 <Stablean> <Mks> rails usually don't follow landscape that much in reality 18:06:47 <Stablean> <Mks> more like cut right through it 18:06:49 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> In mountains they do 18:06:57 <Stablean> <Mks> well tunnels 18:07:07 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Especialy small singletrack railroads 18:07:21 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah there are some that follow somewhat 18:07:26 <Stablean> <Mks> but not 2 way high speed tracks 18:07:52 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> no, but the small single lines look so cute somtimes 18:08:39 <Stablean> <Tepo> realistic, realistic, realistic, realistic, realistic : 18:08:44 <Stablean> <Tepo> :) 18:09:08 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Realims+TTD=WTF 18:09:24 <Stablean> <Mks> will we ever get signals on bridges and in tunnels? 18:09:26 <Stablean> <Tepo> this tunnel is epic fail :D 18:09:33 <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: hopefully not 18:09:39 <Stablean> <Mks> why not 18:09:43 <Stablean> <V453000> would suck ass 18:09:45 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> You got a Signals in tunnels GRF 18:09:47 <Stablean> <Mks> why? 18:09:53 <Stablean> <V453000> this is more fun 18:10:07 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I would love underwater tunnels 18:10:28 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah that would be neat 18:10:34 <Stablean> <Tepo> trajects :D 18:10:45 <Stablean> <Mks> well I don't think things would change that much if we had signals in tunnels and bridges 18:10:47 <Stablean> <Tepo> or ferrys 18:10:53 <Stablean> <Mks> ppl would prolly use tunnels a bit more 18:11:07 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh ferrys would be neat 18:11:27 <Stablean> <Tepo> ppl will use tunnel, not cutting down a mountains :) 18:11:34 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 18:11:37 <Stablean> <V453000> I actually think that signals on bridges would be a huge hit to gameplay 18:11:39 <Stablean> <V453000> a bad hit 18:11:47 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> why? 18:11:49 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh why is that? 18:12:05 <Stablean> <V453000> I like to demonstrate it on PBS 18:12:15 <Stablean> <Mks> ok 18:12:23 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> PBS? 18:12:26 <Stablean> <Mks> where? 18:12:40 <Stablean> <V453000> until people used block signals, they understood how signals work, they knew that crossing tracks is bad 18:12:42 <Stablean> *** Tepo has started a new company (#11) 18:13:02 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Does onyone everplayed the NDS version of oTTD? 18:13:17 <Stablean> <V453000> these days, newbies just place PBS everywhere, have no idea of signal blocks, and cross tracks ust for the hell of it and believe they do it the best posiible way 18:13:23 <Stablean> *** eyescream joined the game 18:13:27 <Stablean> <eyescream> hi 18:13:29 <Stablean> <V453000> and with the signals on bridges, it would be similar 18:13:49 <Stablean> <V453000> hi cream 18:13:52 <Stablean> <Tepo> hey 18:14:08 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol V, you expanded quite a bit there 18:14:18 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 18:14:30 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't see really how adding signlas on bridges would change anything 18:14:41 <planetmaker> no need to double tracks there 18:14:46 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 18:14:48 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean newbies always use 1 bridge anyway 18:14:50 <Stablean> <V453000> that would be imo bad :) 18:14:51 <Ammler> I would prefer custom bridge heads 18:15:01 <planetmaker> I would prefer both tbh 18:15:21 <Stablean> <Mks> custom bridge head?? whats that 18:15:38 <Ammler> @wiki ttdp 18:15:39 <planetmaker> No signals on bridges is a kinda random limitation w/o good gameplay reasons 18:15:40 <Webster> TTDPatch - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=ttdp 18:15:44 <Ammler> see screens there 18:16:32 <Ammler> well, one is enhanced tunnel entries 18:16:34 *** Tepo99 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:16:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Tepo99 18:16:40 <Ammler> also a nice feature :-) 18:16:47 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Why are boats off? 18:16:58 <planetmaker> too expensive 18:16:59 <Stablean> <V453000> because they lag, and suck :) 18:17:05 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ;( 18:17:11 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> like boats 18:17:16 <planetmaker> so do I. 18:17:32 <planetmaker> But most people don't know how to use buoys and as such make the game too heavy on the CPU 18:17:50 <planetmaker> as such no boats on this server. Or only very few 18:18:10 <Stablean> <V453000> none. :) 18:18:20 <Ammler> !rcon set max_ships 1 18:18:22 <Ammler> :-) 18:18:24 <planetmaker> yeah, this one. But one could ^ 18:18:32 <planetmaker> :-) you did what I wanted to propose ;-) 18:18:41 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh yeas that kinda of bridge and tunnel would be nice 18:18:50 <Ammler> that does at least enable the gui 18:19:05 <planetmaker> how... useful ;-) 18:19:13 <Ammler> and someone would build a lot docks, cananals etc until he founds out, oh no ships :-) 18:19:31 <planetmaker> :-P 18:19:35 <Stablean> <V453000> punishment for trying to lag the srver :p 18:21:22 <Stablean> <Tepo> sometimes is nice to have a dock in your station even it's not used :) 18:21:31 <Stablean> *** Energizer joined the game 18:21:34 <Stablean> <V453000> true :) 18:21:45 <Stablean> <Tepo> thanks ammler :) 18:21:49 <Stablean> <Energizer> hi guise 18:21:53 <Stablean> <Tepo> hey energizer 18:22:01 <Stablean> <eyescream> hi 18:22:03 <Stablean> <Tepo> something broken on your track ;) 18:22:05 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Tram crashed :( 18:22:20 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah I know my current track is a disaster 18:23:07 <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah, and i have deactivated my FB profile 18:23:15 <Stablean> <Tepo> :) 18:23:17 <Stablean> <V453000> welcome among the normal people :) 18:23:26 <Stablean> <Tepo> FB sucks 18:23:45 <Stablean> <Tepo> just time-killing :D 18:23:54 <Stablean> <V453000> brain-killing rather 18:24:51 <Stablean> <Tepo> better make 70 **KLIKŮ** (sorry, i don't know how is it in english, maybe cranks?) than be joined on that 18:25:05 <Stablean> <V453000> push-ups? 18:25:07 <Stablean> <V453000> no sure 18:25:11 <Stablean> <Tepo> maybe 18:26:33 <Stablean> <Tepo> that's that arms strengthening technique when you are pushing you up by them while you are almost lying on the ground :) 18:26:53 <Stablean> <V453000> usually "already lying on the ground :P :D" 18:27:05 <Stablean> <Tepo> that's bad 18:27:15 <Stablean> <Tepo> i am going to make another 50 right now :P 18:28:04 <Stablean> <Tepo> whoa, cool 18:28:27 <Stablean> <Tepo> energizer's destroing his network :) 18:28:31 <Stablean> <Energizer> yes 18:28:33 <Stablean> <Energizer> im raging 18:28:35 <Stablean> <Energizer> at it 18:28:35 <Stablean> <V453000> :o 18:28:44 <Stablean> <Tepo> wanna delete a company? 18:28:46 <Stablean> <Tepo> :D 18:28:48 <Stablean> <Energizer> no 18:28:48 <Stablean> <Energizer> it has 18:28:50 <Stablean> <Energizer> 4.9m 18:29:00 <Stablean> <Energizer> so I just cba to start a new one 18:29:12 <Stablean> <Tepo> at least i can overtake your coal resources :) 18:29:18 <Stablean> <Energizer> ill just remake my network 18:29:25 <Stablean> <Energizer> with the same stations 18:29:32 <Stablean> <Energizer> cause the previous one was one big clusterfuck 18:29:35 <Stablean> <Tepo> sure, i was just joking 18:29:45 <Stablean> <Energizer> heh 18:29:56 <Stablean> <V453000> clusterfuck :D 18:29:59 <Stablean> <V453000> awsome word :D 18:30:05 <Stablean> <Tepo> :D 18:30:11 <Stablean> <Energizer> :D 18:30:31 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol the amount of bridges again :D 18:32:00 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> huh cantilever bridge has a glitch 18:32:11 <Stablean> <Tepo> what do you mean? 18:32:41 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> The bridge is not looking right 18:32:53 <Stablean> <Tepo> opengfx? 18:32:59 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ? 18:32:59 <Stablean> <V453000> road bridges may look odd with opengfx 18:33:01 <Stablean> <V453000> ye 18:33:11 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> It always looke dgood before? 18:33:13 <Stablean> <Tepo> i am using original 18:33:23 <Stablean> <Tepo> it looks okay there 18:43:36 <Stablean> <Tepo> oh my god 18:43:44 <Stablean> <Tepo> a mamoth track 18:44:08 <Stablean> <Tepo> joining into one line :D 18:44:34 <Stablean> <V453000> _OOOO 18:44:49 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol :D 18:45:02 <Stablean> <Tepo> + that curves 18:45:18 <Stablean> <V453000> tell him how to do it better :p 18:45:30 <Stablean> <Tepo> and i tought i've seen everything 18:45:36 <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: new bridges 18:45:40 <Stablean> <Tepo> Energizer? 18:45:45 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah? 18:45:58 <Stablean> <Tepo> do you know, you are using really small curve radius? 18:46:10 <Stablean> <Energizer> you mean 18:46:12 <Stablean> <Energizer> near the station? 18:46:15 <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah 18:46:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> I know 18:46:23 <Stablean> <Energizer> but I figured it doesnt matter cause 18:46:33 <Stablean> <Tepo> and that track isn't okay too ;) 18:46:33 <Stablean> <Energizer> it's near the station, train is coming to a stop soon anyway 18:46:50 <Stablean> <Energizer> whats important is that the rest of the track is all straight 18:46:52 <Stablean> <Tepo> i mean southeast from a station 18:47:00 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah 18:47:12 <Stablean> <Tepo> cause trains are going on the right 18:47:26 <Stablean> <Tepo> so they'll go away from the station there 18:47:34 <Stablean> <Energizer> what do you mean? 18:47:44 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah 18:47:46 <Stablean> <Energizer> and? 18:48:05 <Stablean> <Tepo> this way 18:48:19 <Stablean> <Tepo> so trains will don't slow down there 18:48:26 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 18:49:02 <Stablean> <Tepo> he umbraged :D 18:50:19 <Stablean> <Tepo> at least trains get serviced there :) 18:50:39 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 18:51:09 <Stablean> <eyescream> he got disconnected again 18:51:28 <Stablean> <Tepo> someone already using that only possible ship :) 18:53:02 <Stablean> <Tepo> A1 is really long :D 18:53:06 <Stablean> <jor[D]1> :P 18:54:16 <Stablean> <Mks> oo 18:54:33 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 18:58:19 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 19:01:15 <Stablean> <Mks> its tobad the tubular bridges don't really look that good 19:01:39 <Stablean> <V453000> I like how they look 19:01:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> same 19:01:44 <Stablean> <Tepo> me too 19:10:47 <Stablean> *** kaiZen has left the game (connection lost) 19:11:01 <Stablean> *** kaiZen has left the game (connection lost) 19:13:33 <Stablean> *** NTD has left the game (leaving) 19:20:21 <Stablean> <Tepo> i think tollbooth can be good feature 19:20:39 <Stablean> <Tepo> taking money from another company's RVs for using your roads 19:20:49 <Stablean> <V453000> IS ... 19:21:11 <Stablean> <Tepo> but only somewhere, not everywhere 19:21:27 <Stablean> <V453000> he 19:21:34 <Stablean> *** jor[D]1 has left the game (connection lost) 19:21:36 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 19:21:46 <Stablean> <Tepo> it will be more realistic :P :D 19:21:50 <Stablean> <V453000> ...... 19:22:47 <Stablean> <eyescream> V, can you look at my signal "!here" please? 19:22:51 <Stablean> <Tepo> and what's the reason why is not IS or CD implemented in stable? :D 19:23:15 <Stablean> <eyescream> why did you build the entry signals there? 19:23:18 <Stablean> <V453000> CD? ZOWMRFG 19:23:26 <Stablean> <V453000> eyescream: comboes 19:23:31 <Vitus> CD is still unfinished, IS has some serious unsolveable problems 19:23:38 <Stablean> <eyescream> oh, right 19:23:46 <Stablean> *** Energizer joined the game 19:23:50 <Stablean> <Tepo> Vitus: thanks :) 19:23:50 <Stablean> <V453000> as Vitus said 19:23:58 <Stablean> <Energizer> sup guise 19:24:04 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 19:24:10 <Stablean> <Energizer> am back :D 19:24:12 <Stablean> <Tepo> wb :) 19:24:19 <Stablean> <eyescream> wb :P 19:24:57 <Stablean> <eyescream> so, anyway, why did you build them that way? 19:25:07 <Stablean> <eyescream> i thought they would give priority to some line 19:25:13 <Stablean> <V453000> in order to make trains give way to other trains 19:25:15 <Stablean> <V453000> yes they would 19:25:23 <Stablean> <V453000> trains coming from the depot give way to the incoming trains 19:25:59 <Stablean> <eyescream> ah, going to have to take a closer look at that again then, thanks 19:26:22 <Stablean> <eyescream> i haven't bothered with such advanced setups yet, only saw some of that in the openttd wiki 19:26:36 <Stablean> <Energizer> aww tepo man 19:26:42 <Stablean> <Energizer> I wanted to use that coal mine 19:26:44 <Stablean> <Energizer> oh well 19:26:44 <Stablean> <eyescream> ah, now i saw it, great 19:28:37 <Stablean> <eyescream> it's not that complicated after all. 19:28:51 <Stablean> <V453000> quite :) 19:29:18 <Stablean> <Tepo> but you said it's simple ;) 19:29:32 <Stablean> <V453000> isnt it 19:33:04 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf dude ... 19:33:20 <Stablean> <Tepo> nothing, nothing :) 19:41:18 <Stablean> <V453000> epic win 19:41:57 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 19:41:57 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 19:42:14 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi 19:42:34 <Stablean> <Tepo> V: your trains remembers me ants 19:42:38 <Stablean> <Tepo> hey bro 19:42:54 <Stablean> <eyescream> hey 19:43:12 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hou 19:43:42 <Stablean> <Tepo> dwarfs go :D 19:43:51 <Stablean> <V453000> omg :o 19:43:57 <Stablean> <Tepo> :DDDD 19:44:16 <Stablean> <Tepo> hysterics :DDDD 19:54:24 <Stablean> <Tepo> have to go, good night all 19:54:30 <Stablean> <V453000> cya 19:54:32 <Stablean> <eyescream> :o night 19:54:44 <Stablean> <Tepo> yes, 9:54 PM ;) 19:55:10 <Stablean> <eyescream> early evening! 19:55:12 <Stablean> <eyescream> :P 19:55:23 <Stablean> <Tepo> night will be after ;) 19:55:36 <Stablean> <Tepo> anyway, see ya 19:55:40 <Stablean> *** Tepo has left the game (connection lost) 19:55:44 *** Tepo99 has quit IRC 20:01:41 <Stablean> <V453000> eyescream: self blocking signal !there 20:01:53 <Stablean> <eyescream> oh lol :D 20:01:56 <Stablean> <eyescream> thanks :P 20:02:00 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 20:02:06 <Stablean> <eyescream> i am not really paying attention 20:02:12 <Stablean> <eyescream> i am just experimenting around in some parts 20:02:17 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 20:02:31 <Stablean> <eyescream> i've been changing things around and around to see what works nicely for me and stuff 20:02:49 <Stablean> <eyescream> i have some major flaws in this system that i am too lazy to fix :P 20:02:55 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 20:02:57 <Stablean> <eyescream> waiting for the next game to build something 'real' again 20:03:13 <Stablean> <eyescream> i spent most of the time following everyone else's tracks :P 20:03:23 <Stablean> <V453000> honestly, if you see flaws in your network and it will make you build better next time, you can call it a great game :) 20:04:02 <Stablean> <eyescream> true, i've learnd quite a few things this game 20:04:20 <Stablean> <eyescream> can you check out my !here sign? 20:04:44 <Stablean> <eyescream> i have 2 questions 20:04:50 <Stablean> <eyescream> or well, one 20:04:56 <Stablean> <V453000> ask away :) 20:05:15 <Stablean> <eyescream> i usually just put path signals so more than one train can pass between the signals there 20:05:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> but seeing as that sometimes causes problems i'd much rather use normal signals 20:05:52 <Stablean> <V453000> ok :) 20:05:54 <Stablean> <eyescream> and my actual question is 20:06:04 <Stablean> <eyescream> what's the best way to do such a station? 20:06:08 <Stablean> <eyescream> with bridges and tunnels? 20:06:10 <Stablean> <V453000> there are many 20:06:12 <Stablean> <V453000> I will show you 20:06:14 <Stablean> <Mks> PBS :P 20:06:16 <Stablean> <V453000> come to !sandbox 20:06:30 <Stablean> <eyescream> i've tried something similar last game with bridges and tunnels 20:06:33 <Stablean> <eyescream> and 4 tracks 20:06:39 <Stablean> <eyescream> that seemed to work okay 20:07:25 <Stablean> <eyescream> and roro! 20:08:17 <Stablean> <eyescream> that's what i tried last game 20:08:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> that worked well once i had a lot of trains going there 20:09:19 <Stablean> <V453000> this is basically a very good way how to do it 20:09:27 <Stablean> <V453000> then there is for example a bit more special like this : 20:09:31 <Stablean> <Mks> I still would use PBS for that kinda of station 20:11:09 <Stablean> <eyescream> that one is cool 20:11:15 <Stablean> <V453000> definitely 20:13:59 <Stablean> <Mks> that many tracks on a roro with that kinda of of entrance might cause problem 20:14:05 <Stablean> <V453000> exactly 20:14:21 <Stablean> <Mks> I think 4 is max with that kinda of roro or similar looking 20:14:49 <Stablean> <V453000> well 20:14:51 <Stablean> <V453000> kind of 20:15:23 <Stablean> <Mks> well 5 might work but to many and it ends up not filling the station at least if its a drop off station 20:15:35 <Stablean> <Mks> a loading station might work 20:16:51 <Stablean> <eyescream> and the exit signal before that too 20:16:55 <Stablean> <V453000> why 20:17:01 <Stablean> <V453000> this way you got there waiting bays 20:17:12 <Stablean> <eyescream> ah okay 20:17:38 <Stablean> <V453000> so it works this way 20:18:19 <Stablean> <V453000> clear? :) 20:18:22 <Stablean> <eyescream> now it makes perfect sense, yes 20:18:24 <Stablean> <eyescream> thanks :D 20:18:26 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 20:18:36 <Stablean> <Mks> the kinda of terminus where trains won't cross that will take ALOT of space if you have long trains 20:19:04 <Stablean> <V453000> all stations will take a lot of space if built properly for long trains 20:19:12 <Stablean> <Mks> well true 20:19:18 <Stablean> <Mks> but there are still diffrences 20:19:34 <Stablean> <Mks> simple terminus is least space taking 20:19:57 <Stablean> <V453000> also least throughput worthy :) 20:20:07 <Stablean> <V453000> you need to adjust network to your needs :) 20:20:09 <Stablean> <V453000> as always :) 20:20:15 <Stablean> <eyescream> how do you get something to grow quickly? 20:20:30 <Stablean> <eyescream> do you build 2+ platforms right away with smaller trains and then later expand? 20:20:43 <Stablean> <eyescream> i usually start by putting 2 platforms next to a coal mine 20:20:46 <Stablean> <V453000> oh 20:20:49 <Stablean> <eyescream> and then i add more trains 20:20:52 <Stablean> <V453000> well depends what station it is of course 20:20:54 <Stablean> <eyescream> as needed 20:21:00 <Stablean> <eyescream> but sometimes it just doesn't grow 20:21:15 <Stablean> <V453000> at this moment I dont have more than 3 platforms per primary industry (mines, forests, farms,...) 20:21:21 <Stablean> <V453000> oh 20:21:27 <Stablean> <V453000> that is quite random 20:21:33 <Stablean> <V453000> but you need to service it properly 20:21:46 <Stablean> <eyescream> yeah i read up on that on the wiki 20:21:46 <Stablean> <V453000> best is if there is always a train loading 20:21:58 <Stablean> <eyescream> last game i had a couple of woods that ended up dying on me 20:22:04 <Stablean> <V453000> :O 20:22:06 <Stablean> <eyescream> first they were fine, then in the end 20:22:16 <Stablean> <eyescream> i had 3 trains waiting to load (2 platforms) 20:22:22 <Stablean> <eyescream> and it never grew 20:22:34 <Stablean> <Mks> almost all grows eventually 20:22:37 <Stablean> <Mks> more or less tho 20:22:43 <Stablean> <V453000> bad luck :) 20:22:43 <Stablean> <Mks> if you service em enough 20:22:53 <Stablean> <eyescream> yeah i seem to have had quite bad luck with that particular forest 20:23:05 <Stablean> <Mks> mm V why do you have 2 locos on TL 3? 20:23:11 <Stablean> <Mks> it can't really be needed? 20:23:15 <Stablean> <V453000> it is 20:23:25 <Stablean> <V453000> better acceleration 20:23:27 <Stablean> <V453000> way better 20:23:29 <Stablean> <Mks> well true 20:23:31 <Stablean> <Mks> but still 20:24:08 <Stablean> <Mks> you mean acceleration is to lousy with just 1 loco? 20:24:12 <Stablean> <V453000> ye 20:24:36 <Stablean> <Mks> that would mean I should use 7 locos on my tl 7 trains 20:24:37 <Stablean> <eyescream> well thanks for the help and thorough explanations :D 20:24:45 <Stablean> <V453000> yw 20:24:47 <Stablean> <eyescream> going to try to put that to good use 20:24:53 <Stablean> <V453000> any other questions - feel free to ask :) 20:24:59 <Stablean> <eyescream> thanks :) 20:25:32 <Stablean> <Mks> I think 2 locos on tl 7 for me is ok 20:25:42 <Stablean> <V453000> well for you it is 20:25:52 <Stablean> <V453000> but I have a lot of merging and stuff so the acceleration is very viable 20:25:58 <Stablean> <Mks> full speed after like 15 tiles 20:26:04 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 20:26:06 <Stablean> <Mks> true 20:26:23 <Stablean> <Mks> with lots of merging it makes a big diffrence 20:27:02 <Stablean> <V453000> plus it looks cool :p 20:27:09 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 20:27:10 <Stablean> <Mks> more expensive 20:27:21 <Stablean> <V453000> who cares about money 20:27:27 <Stablean> <Mks> if the running cost where high all your trains would cost more 20:27:29 <Stablean> <V453000> after X years you are bathing in shit anyway 20:27:33 <Stablean> <Mks> then they profit 20:27:42 <Stablean> <Mks> well not me :P 20:27:50 <Stablean> <Mks> I've played with the water 20:28:16 <Stablean> <Mks> but yeah its true money is usually not an issue later in the game 20:28:33 <Stablean> <eyescream> even i have a ton of money and i barely did anything 20:29:01 <Stablean> <Mks> try raise or lower some land at the water and it will all go away :) 20:29:17 <Stablean> <eyescream> i did earlier :P 20:31:56 <Stablean> <eyescream> how do you decide where to place depots? 20:32:18 <Stablean> <V453000> I make all depots inaccessible and I place autoreplace depots after drop stations 20:32:26 <Stablean> <V453000> because well ... every train goes near some drop :p 20:32:50 <Stablean> <V453000> and after them so that trains use the right ones 20:33:05 <Stablean> <eyescream> heh 20:33:28 <Stablean> <V453000> how far proper I make them depends really 20:33:34 <Stablean> <V453000> in this game I have them quite dirty :) 20:36:55 <Stablean> <Energizer> or rather 20:37:30 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol 32 tonnes of coal dude :P 20:37:35 <Stablean> <Energizer> :D 20:37:37 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah fail 20:37:43 <Stablean> <Energizer> I bought 3 cool trains 20:37:49 <Stablean> <Energizer> for a heap of coal 20:37:55 <Stablean> <eyescream> there is another mine 20:38:01 <Stablean> <eyescream> behind your station 20:38:17 <Stablean> <eyescream> connect that or feed the other station :D 20:38:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> behind? 20:38:32 <Stablean> <eyescream> check my sign !here 20:38:42 <Stablean> <eyescream> left click on the map icon -> sign list 20:38:57 <Stablean> <Mks> lol 4 tracks for a 40 ton coal mine :P 20:39:03 <Stablean> <Energizer> ah 20:39:11 <Stablean> <Energizer> and 20:39:15 <Stablean> <Energizer> I have bigger plans mks 20:39:15 <Stablean> <Energizer> :D 20:39:23 <Stablean> <Energizer> that will be my main line 20:39:33 <Stablean> <Energizer> I intend to connect other stuff to it too so that all 4 tracks will be neede 20:39:33 <Stablean> <Energizer> d 20:40:26 <Stablean> <Mks> I don't know maybe you prolly need over 100 trains for it to be needed with 4 tracks 20:40:51 <Stablean> <Energizer> well but they are one way each so.. 20:40:53 <Stablean> <Mks> maybe less 20:41:03 <Stablean> <eyescream> but a roro station would be better i think 20:41:11 <Stablean> <eyescream> faster throughput 20:41:21 <Stablean> <V453000> well tha isnt entirely true 20:41:35 <Stablean> <Energizer> a roro station is good for less stuff 20:41:42 <Stablean> <Energizer> once you start adding more stations it gets ugly 20:41:48 <Stablean> <V453000> I wouldnt compare terminus and roro much 20:41:51 <Stablean> <Energizer> hence I decided to try making a main line 20:42:19 <Stablean> <eyescream> well i was just thinking of this case in particular 20:42:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> i was thinking that one track to it with a couple of platforms in a roro station and one track leading back from it 20:42:48 <Stablean> <eyescream> would be better than building 2 tracks from and to 20:43:10 <Stablean> <Energizer> you dont understand 20:43:13 <Stablean> <eyescream> naturally you could use an advanced terminus station too 20:43:17 <Stablean> <Energizer> I built the 4 tracks 20:43:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> for future use 20:43:23 <Stablean> <Energizer> it is my main line 20:43:29 <Stablean> <eyescream> yeah yeah just saying :P 20:43:31 <Stablean> <Energizer> i'm going to connect other stuff 20:43:33 <Stablean> <Energizer> on the way 20:43:36 <Stablean> <Energizer> so i'll need that 20:43:48 <Stablean> <Energizer> and whats a terminus station? 20:44:06 <Stablean> <eyescream> the kind you built 20:44:12 <Stablean> <eyescream> they are the end of the line 20:44:16 <Stablean> <Energizer> oh 20:44:20 <Stablean> <Energizer> k 20:44:26 <Stablean> <eyescream> ro ro goes through 20:44:28 <Stablean> <Mks> terminus where train enter and leave the station from the same side 20:46:31 <Stablean> <Mks> V is the heavy cargo multiplier always 1? 20:46:39 <Stablean> <Mks> cause mm at 1 hills doesn't really matter 20:46:45 <Stablean> <V453000> usually it is 20:46:47 <Stablean> <Mks> but they do if you increase it 20:49:52 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (leaving) 20:50:25 <Stablean> <Mks> how many cargo wagons is needed on a train to make it do profit? 20:50:36 <Stablean> <V453000> 1 20:50:43 <Stablean> <Mks> if you have 4 locos? 20:50:49 <Stablean> <Mks> or even 5 20:50:51 <Stablean> <V453000> well it depends of course 20:51:59 <Stablean> <Mks> mm why does it say invalid cargo? 20:52:05 <Stablean> <V453000> japanese towns 20:52:07 <Stablean> <V453000> no idea why 20:52:09 <Stablean> <V453000> but it doesnt hurt anything 20:52:20 <Stablean> <Mks> what do they accept that doesn't work ? 20:52:43 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 20:52:51 <Stablean> <Mks> the invalid cargo 20:52:57 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 20:52:59 <Stablean> <Mks> does it work anywhere 20:53:05 <Stablean> <Mks> with like some other newgrf? 20:53:06 <Stablean> <V453000> in what terms? 20:53:15 <Stablean> <V453000> town newgrfs, 20:53:16 <Stablean> <V453000> ? 20:53:23 <Stablean> <V453000> no, only japan towns 21:03:15 <Stablean> <V453000> oh for fuck sakes 21:03:18 <Stablean> <V453000> I have no HQ 21:03:26 <Stablean> <Energizer> lol 21:03:40 <Stablean> <Mks> does it matter? 21:03:42 <Stablean> <V453000> yea! 21:04:25 <Stablean> <Energizer> how do I cancel shared orders? 21:04:36 <Stablean> <Mks> remove all orders from a train 21:04:38 <Stablean> <V453000> press the "end of shared orders" and press delete 21:04:41 <Stablean> <Mks> oo 21:04:44 <Stablean> <Mks> might work to :P 21:04:53 <Stablean> <Energizer> deletes all orders :DD 21:04:59 <Stablean> <V453000> if you delete all orders, it will also delete all the shared vehicles orders 21:05:05 <Stablean> <V453000> not the sharing :) 21:05:07 <Stablean> <Mks> no 21:05:21 <Stablean> <Energizer> ah 21:05:25 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 21:05:33 <Stablean> <Mks> yes I meant to do it like you said V 21:05:33 <Stablean> <Mks> sorry 21:05:37 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 21:05:56 <Stablean> <Mks> gah I want to raise 17x5 in the ocean 21:06:02 <Stablean> <Mks> but its gona be expensive 21:07:09 <Ammler> V453000: planetmaker: specially here might pbs used more 21:07:17 <V453000> ? 21:07:26 <Ammler> so next time the server lags, change 21:07:43 <planetmaker> jo 21:07:44 <Ammler> !rcon set pf.path_backoff_interval 21:07:44 <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'pf.path_backoff_interval' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 255) 21:07:51 <Ammler> to 10 or so 21:07:55 <V453000> oh this 21:07:58 <V453000> sure :) 21:08:04 <Ammler> you remember the logic game 21:08:12 <V453000> yes 180 21:08:13 <Ammler> iirc, it had effect there? 21:08:17 <V453000> totally destroyed the server :D 21:08:24 <V453000> ML split 06 21:08:51 <V453000> (which by the ways is broken due to that latest PBS bug) 21:09:24 <Ammler> is that what "they" discuss in #openttd? 21:10:02 <planetmaker> no 21:10:18 <V453000> dont think so :) 21:10:27 <planetmaker> the discussion is about performance testing 21:10:51 <Stablean> <Energizer> man 21:10:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> no factories near my line 21:10:58 <V453000> the thing I am talking about is about kind of violation of sense of safe tiles with PBS 21:10:59 <planetmaker> and our psg savegames prove considerably bad testgames as they show not much performance gain with the proposed patch 21:11:10 <planetmaker> 'bad' 21:12:02 <Ammler> and why is the save bad and not the patch? :-P 21:12:43 <planetmaker> :-) that's why I added "'" 21:12:43 <V453000> if you want to see some brutal cpu load, PZ13 is insane ... the synchronized SML makes really waves on the load :o 21:12:44 <planetmaker> :-P 21:12:57 <V453000> Vitus counted how much it hogs 21:13:01 <V453000> a lot :D 21:13:04 <planetmaker> V453000: trains running is not what the performance improvements is about ;-) 21:13:07 <planetmaker> Not running trains 21:13:10 <V453000> ok 21:13:11 <V453000> :) 21:13:20 <planetmaker> Rather station visits 21:13:29 <planetmaker> and certain other map accesses 21:13:36 <V453000> o 21:13:37 <V453000> ok :) 21:13:40 <planetmaker> So the gain ranges from 0% to 50% 21:14:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:14:34 <V453000> seeee ya :) 21:28:15 <Stablean> *** eyescream has left the game (leaving) 21:32:18 <Stablean> <Mks> damnit broke again 22:17:29 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 22:17:31 <Stablean> <Henri> hi 22:21:19 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 22:30:08 <Stablean> *** kuch3n has left the game (connection lost) 22:35:09 <Stablean> *** eyescream joined the game 22:35:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:35:16 <Stablean> *** eyescream has joined spectators 22:35:31 <Stablean> <eyescream> fail 22:35:36 <Stablean> <eyescream> FAIL I SAY 22:35:42 <Stablean> <Energizer> ;DDD 22:35:44 <Stablean> <eyescream> i came ingame for this. 22:36:12 <Stablean> <eyescream> i found it 22:36:16 <Stablean> <eyescream> without your help 22:36:18 <Stablean> <Energizer> :D 22:36:20 <Stablean> <eyescream> fuck you 22:36:23 <Stablean> <eyescream> :DD 22:36:25 <Stablean> <Energizer> =DDDD 22:36:35 <Stablean> <Energizer> they ported puck and kunkka =DDD=DD=DDD 22:36:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> =D =D =D 22:36:47 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol i should watch that again 22:36:49 <Stablean> <eyescream> so epic 22:36:56 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah 22:38:13 <Stablean> <eyescream> s2 is ruining the game with original heroes 22:38:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> :DDDDDDDDD 22:38:25 <Stablean> <eyescream> they added kunkka and puck =D D =D =DDDD 22:38:27 <Stablean> <Energizer> what? 22:38:29 <Stablean> <Energizer> are you shitting me? 22:38:35 <Stablean> <eyescream> fuck yeah 22:38:35 <Stablean> <eyescream> :D 22:38:37 <Stablean> <Energizer> XD 22:38:49 <Stablean> <Energizer> it's funny 22:38:51 <Stablean> <Energizer> when you understands 22:38:54 <Stablean> <Energizer> understand* 22:38:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> what he says 22:38:59 <Stablean> <Energizer> in russian 22:39:09 <Stablean> <Energizer> apparently she asks him "how is the club?" 22:39:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> and he's like "nothing special" 22:39:29 <Stablean> <Energizer> "been here many times but this time is bad" 22:39:31 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol wtf 22:39:34 <Stablean> <eyescream> nothing special and he goes nuts ? :DD 22:39:36 <Stablean> <eyescream> wtf. 22:39:36 <Stablean> <Energizer> "and the music is bad too" 22:39:39 <Stablean> <Energizer> and then 22:39:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> russians.. 22:39:41 <Stablean> <Energizer> she asks him 22:39:47 <Stablean> <Energizer> "what kind of music is here?" 22:39:54 <Stablean> <Energizer> and he is like "what?" 22:40:06 <Stablean> <Energizer> ("you gotta be shitting me") 22:40:16 <Stablean> <eyescream> :DD 22:40:18 <Stablean> <Energizer> and then she repeats the "question" (they ported...) 22:40:24 <Stablean> <Energizer> and he starts going nuts 22:40:31 <Stablean> <Energizer> to show her the "type of music" 22:40:35 <Stablean> <Energizer> stupid russians indeed 22:42:17 <Stablean> <eyescream> oh boy :D 22:44:41 <Stablean> *** eyescream has joined company #3 22:51:53 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy joined the game 22:52:09 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Hi 22:53:33 <Stablean> <eyescream> hey 22:53:49 <Stablean> <eyescream> hopefully without connectivity issues this time :P 22:54:01 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Lol it seems to be fine :P 22:54:03 <Stablean> <Energizer> hey 22:54:06 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Hi 22:56:27 <V453000> watching Empr bashing the hell out of people? :) 22:57:19 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Lol what? 22:57:39 <V453000> guys were talking about heroes of newerth about 20 minutes ago :) 22:57:52 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Oh 22:58:06 <Stablean> <eyescream> heh 22:58:20 <Stablean> <eyescream> do you play? :o 22:58:32 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Nope, never heard of it xD 22:58:37 <V453000> I played the beta but since then I just watch progaming scene 22:59:04 <Stablean> <eyescream> it's like dota 22:59:16 <Stablean> <eyescream> why did youn't you continue after beta? :P 22:59:27 <V453000> playing on pub is retarded and without any teamplay ... and I dont really want to play it with a team :) 22:59:52 <Stablean> <eyescream> fair enough 23:00:04 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:00:05 <V453000> the game is great though 23:00:27 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 23:00:34 <Stablean> <V453000> aand hi :) 23:00:43 <Stablean> <Energizer> hi 23:00:59 <Stablean> <eyescream> hey ;) 23:01:51 <Stablean> <V453000> but well it was fun to go steamboots, demo breastplate, shieldbreaker demented shaman :D 23:02:09 <Stablean> <V453000> or hellflower, harkons blade, symbol of rage pyro ... 23:02:15 <Stablean> <V453000> pub ... :) 23:02:22 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol :D 23:02:37 <Stablean> <eyescream> yeah pub is so random 23:02:44 <Stablean> <V453000> pyro was especially fun 23:02:46 <Stablean> <eyescream> i've lost 4v5s 23:02:52 <Stablean> <eyescream> (us being 5) 23:02:56 <Stablean> <eyescream> and i've won 2v5s 23:03:10 <Stablean> <V453000> you kill 2 by spells, another 2 by autoattacks and then the last one again because your cooldowns are gone :D 23:03:10 <Stablean> <eyescream> it's hilarious, haven't played in more than a month though 23:03:24 <Stablean> <eyescream> :D 23:03:32 <Stablean> <eyescream> only works against baddies though 23:03:38 <Stablean> <V453000> well of course :) 23:03:40 <Stablean> <Energizer> wat 23:03:42 <Stablean> <Energizer> u play hon v? 23:03:46 <Stablean> <V453000> I used to 23:03:48 <Stablean> <eyescream> someone needs to read the log 23:03:50 <Stablean> <eyescream> :P 23:03:53 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 23:03:55 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah well 23:03:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> when im focused on building 23:04:00 <Stablean> <Energizer> I dont read the chat 23:04:14 <Stablean> <Energizer> what do you mean used to? 23:04:16 <Stablean> <Energizer> in the beta? 23:04:18 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 23:04:21 <Stablean> <Energizer> heh 23:04:23 <Stablean> <Energizer> liked it? 23:04:31 <Stablean> <V453000> the game is great 23:04:38 <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah 23:04:40 <Stablean> <V453000> but the people who hang around pub games arent 23:04:43 <Stablean> <Energizer> it'll live long 23:04:46 <Stablean> <Energizer> true 23:04:56 <Stablean> <Energizer> thats why you get a couple of mates to play with 23:04:59 <Stablean> <Energizer> I barely ever play alone 23:05:17 <Stablean> <Energizer> like these days, eyescream refuses to play so I dont play too much either 23:05:20 <Stablean> <V453000> and since there werent that many carries in the beta, people just all the time picked scout and raped the shit out of other teams ... because they always found someone to feed em 23:05:34 <Stablean> <Energizer> well 23:05:40 <Stablean> <Energizer> much has changed since the beta 23:05:42 <Stablean> <V453000> I believe 23:05:44 <Stablean> <Energizer> people are more knowledgable and aware of the game 23:05:50 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 23:05:54 <Stablean> <Energizer> you will see wards and couriers much more than in the beta 23:05:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> in your average pub game 23:05:59 <Stablean> <V453000> ooh 23:06:01 <Stablean> <V453000> awesome 23:06:03 <Stablean> <Energizer> but then again there are always the jerk games 23:06:09 <Stablean> <V453000> never seen wards there :D besides my own 23:06:09 <Stablean> <eyescream> and you will still see the same old people that go 23:06:11 <Stablean> <Mks> mm you lost your mine Energizer 23:06:13 <Stablean> <Energizer> so yeah, all comes down to getting a few mates 23:06:20 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 23:06:22 <Stablean> <eyescream> "FUK U TARD OMG U NO LIVE WTF" 23:06:28 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 23:06:28 <Stablean> <Energizer> lol apparently it wasnt producing enough coal 23:06:34 <Stablean> <Energizer> or sth 23:06:36 <Stablean> <V453000> typical dota speech 23:06:36 <Stablean> <eyescream> "I SHOT UR MOM HORE" 23:06:42 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 23:06:48 <Stablean> <V453000> that was especially bad in dota 23:06:48 <Stablean> <eyescream> :) 23:06:50 <Stablean> <V453000> 13year olds 23:06:53 <Stablean> <V453000> wtf.. :D 23:06:59 <Stablean> <Energizer> you come from dota v? 23:07:02 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 23:07:29 <Stablean> <V453000> black arachnia rapes all! :D 23:08:19 <Stablean> <V453000> but well ... what is more fun than Soulstealer / Nevermore :) 23:08:29 <Stablean> <Energizer> my most played hero 23:08:36 <Stablean> <Energizer> and probably the favorite 23:08:56 <Stablean> <V453000> it only is so fucking hard to play it :) especially on pubs 23:08:56 <Stablean> <Energizer> and btw in beta soulstealer raped 23:08:58 <Stablean> <Energizer> because he wasnt picked much 23:09:04 <Stablean> <Energizer> people never knew the damage of the hands 23:09:16 <Stablean> <Energizer> I always got them easily by surprise 23:09:16 <Stablean> <V453000> hehe 23:09:17 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 23:09:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> today they are more aware of soulstealer's abilities 23:09:30 <Stablean> <Energizer> hell even landing an ult is harder now, people react almost instantly when you key in 23:09:42 <Stablean> <V453000> well soulstealer rapes even now, only the latest nerf sucks a bit ... but still a farming machine :) 23:09:46 <Stablean> <Energizer> besides the regular nerfs on its cast time (fuck s2 :<<) 23:09:50 <Stablean> <eyescream> kunkka and puck =D =D =D 23:09:52 <Stablean> <V453000> yea 23:10:03 <Stablean> <Energizer> they ported puck and kunkka =D=D=D 23:10:05 <Stablean> <Energizer> saw the vid v? 23:10:07 <Stablean> <V453000> bubbles rocks :D 23:10:13 <Stablean> <eyescream> i like bubbles too! 23:10:14 <Stablean> <V453000> which vid 23:10:17 <Stablean> <Energizer> lol 23:10:18 <Stablean> <Energizer> sef 23:10:20 <Stablean> <Energizer> sec* 23:10:21 <Stablean> <Mks> wow mm V try demolish a big area of water:P if you wish to get poor 23:10:36 <Stablean> <V453000> ... 23:10:42 <Stablean> <Energizer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c23SH38P_t8 23:10:43 <Webster> Title: YouTube - Heroes Of Newerth Interview : Unhappy Gamer (at www.youtube.com) 23:10:50 <Stablean> <V453000> I see that basecosts are a real attraction this game :D 23:11:32 <Stablean> <V453000> OMG :D 23:11:38 <Stablean> <Energizer> XD 23:11:53 <Stablean> <V453000> know the codex lv5 song? :D 23:11:55 <Stablean> <Energizer> sure 23:12:33 <Stablean> <eyescream> of cours 23:12:33 <Stablean> <eyescream> e 23:12:35 <Stablean> <eyescream> i build my codex level 5. 23:14:07 <Stablean> <Energizer> fuck 23:14:15 <Stablean> <Energizer> I went through the whole trouble to build a station near that farm 23:14:16 <Stablean> *** Matt joined the game 23:14:19 <Stablean> <Energizer> and it closed down 23:14:21 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 23:14:25 <Stablean> <Energizer> T.T 23:14:29 <Stablean> <V453000> QQ 23:14:31 <Stablean> <Energizer> oh well ill just seed one 23:14:31 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol 23:14:41 <Stablean> <eyescream> you can't 23:14:45 <Stablean> <Energizer> wat 23:14:51 <Stablean> <Energizer> you shittin me 23:14:53 <Stablean> <MrMouthy> Xd 23:14:55 <Stablean> <eyescream> only secondary things 23:14:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> they ported puck and kunkka? =D=D=D 23:14:59 <Stablean> <eyescream> not resources 23:15:01 <Stablean> <V453000> omg :D 23:15:03 <Stablean> <Energizer> T.TTTTTTTTTTTT 23:15:06 <Stablean> <eyescream> otherwise everyone would build tons of coal mines 23:15:08 <Stablean> <eyescream> and stuff. 23:15:14 <Stablean> <Energizer> epic fail 23:15:16 <Stablean> <Energizer> is epic 23:15:23 <Stablean> <Energizer> now I got 2 useless stations 23:15:25 <Stablean> <Energizer> great 23:15:27 <Stablean> <eyescream> lol 23:15:39 <Stablean> <eyescream> that happened to me yesterday 23:15:42 <Stablean> <eyescream> three stations even 23:15:44 <Stablean> <V453000> you are utterly and completely fucked :) 23:15:47 <Stablean> <Energizer> XD 23:15:53 <Stablean> <Energizer> well 23:15:59 <Stablean> <Energizer> I wish I was that "fucked" in real life 23:16:05 <Stablean> <V453000> ? :o 23:16:07 <Stablean> <Energizer> with 3.3 million pounds in my bank account 23:16:09 <Stablean> <Energizer> ^^ 23:16:12 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 23:21:24 <Stablean> *** Matt has left the game (connection lost) 23:23:50 <Stablean> <Energizer> wat 23:23:52 <Stablean> <Energizer> no idea how 23:24:00 <Stablean> <Energizer> but I just made a 3m terraform 23:24:25 <Stablean> <Mks> well land is also quite expensive if you TF alot 23:24:28 <Stablean> *** Jons joined the game 23:24:33 <Stablean> <Energizer> thats the point 23:24:38 <Stablean> <Energizer> I terraformed only like one corner 23:24:41 <Stablean> <Energizer> and suddenly boom 3m gone 23:24:48 <Stablean> <Mks> water? 23:24:57 <Stablean> <Energizer> nope 23:25:51 <Stablean> <Energizer> lol 23:25:53 <Stablean> <Energizer> thanks 23:25:55 <Stablean> <eyescream> yw 23:31:52 <Stablean> *** Jons has left the game (leaving) 23:49:10 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)