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08:04:56  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
08:05:00  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello =O
08:12:03  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> If a train is longer than the station, will  loading times increase with train length?
08:12:18  <Stablean> <V453000> not sure about that but I think they wont
08:12:24  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe they will
08:12:26  <Stablean> <V453000> dont know
08:12:33  <Stablean> <V453000> why would you ever make longer trains than stations :)
08:12:43  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Irrational decisions.
08:12:43  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> ;)
08:13:45  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Now we have coloured newspapers! We indeed are in the age of new.
08:13:53  <Stablean> <V453000> lo
08:13:59  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD
08:14:50  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> OMG, a caboose. XD
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08:47:32  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
08:47:35  <Stablean> <Tepo> hi
08:56:01  <Stablean> <Tepo> good god
08:56:04  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> o.o
08:56:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> just looking at energizer's network
08:56:45  <Stablean> <V453000> not everyone is as good as you :)
08:57:07  <Stablean> <Tepo> i know, but have he ever seen a wrod "bridge"?
08:58:22  <Stablean> <V453000> obviously not :)
08:58:37  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> He is very new.
09:00:31  <Stablean> <Tepo> but at least it works :)
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09:27:28  <Stablean> <Tepo> hi energizer
09:29:58  <Stablean> <Tepo> lol i've given €14m into a costruction of A2 :D
09:30:10  <Stablean> <Energizer> hey
09:49:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> Energizer, can i have some suggestions for you and your network?
09:49:51  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hey, Ener
09:55:19  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Just tested with a 30 tiles train
09:55:34  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It definitely takes a lot longer than with a train that ,say, is only 8 tiles or something.
09:55:51  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Or just a train that is like 1 or two tiles longer than the station.
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10:11:32  <Stablean> <Tepo> Hi
10:11:42  <Stablean> <Energizer> hi
10:12:02  <Stablean> <Energizer> and
10:12:04  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello :o
10:12:06  <Stablean> <Energizer> sorry for not answering tepo
10:12:08  <Stablean> <Energizer> didnt see
10:12:10  <Stablean> <Energizer> what you wrote
10:12:10  <Stablean> <Energizer> and hey aziro
10:12:21  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =O
10:12:22  <Stablean> <Energizer> and sure, feel free to suggest anything
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10:13:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> Energizer: First of all, your network is using 10%-20% of its capacity
10:13:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> why do you have 4 rails if you use only two of them?
10:13:27  <Stablean> <Energizer> for future use
10:13:30  <Stablean> <Energizer> I wanna be sure
10:13:33  <Stablean> <Energizer> that I have enough room
10:13:49  <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah, but you are blocking other players then
10:13:55  <Stablean> <Tepo> nevermind
10:14:06  <Stablean> <Energizer> well
10:14:16  <Stablean> <Energizer> I didnt take a considerable part of the map away
10:14:22  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, if other players would be blocking him from expanding to a quad track later, they'd be blocking him then.
10:14:26  <Stablean> <Energizer> and I made them parallel to my other tracks
10:14:28  <Stablean> <Energizer> so I dont see a problem
10:14:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> next one: that crossings looks horrible
10:14:46  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It is absolutely fine for him to plan ahead like this, especially because other players might not be that civil and leave room for him to expand.
10:15:05  <Stablean> <Tepo> i said nevermind
10:15:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> :)
10:15:21  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> A quad track is in no way taking away space from other players if he would do that in the f uture anyway. it would be bad of the other players to take that space to begin with if he wanted to do that..
10:15:36  <Stablean> <Energizer> im telling you, aziro should be a lawyer
10:15:38  <Stablean> <Energizer> :D
10:15:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> okay, okay
10:15:40  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Or at least, it would be the worse thing to do than to build a double track immediately.
10:16:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> leave it as it is ;)
10:16:36  <Stablean> <Energizer> and what about the crossings?
10:16:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> Energizer: why don't you use a bridges? this way, a train going into a station is blocking every rail
10:17:28  <Stablean> <Tepo> it is not so usefull in future
10:17:28  <Stablean> <Energizer> true, but I havent reached that level yet
10:17:32  <Stablean> <Energizer> im just trying around
10:17:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> okay :)
10:17:40  <Stablean> <Energizer> ill find ways to improve my system over time
10:17:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's why i speak about it
10:18:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can learn new techniques from other players suggestions, its the best way IMO
10:18:29  <Stablean> <Energizer> heh
10:18:35  <Stablean> <Energizer> thanks for the tips anyway ;)
10:18:37  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D
10:19:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> for example you can do transmittion from the inner rail into the outer and then you can build a bridge over the whole track ;)
10:19:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> it will be less blocking
10:19:26  <Stablean> <Energizer> true but in that particular case there's a height difference
10:19:34  <Stablean> <Energizer> so a bridge wont work unless I terraform
10:19:49  <Stablean> <Energizer> and besides
10:19:55  <Stablean> <Energizer> I have more than one exit from that rail
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10:20:03  <Stablean> <Energizer> so how do I build a bridge for all the exits?
10:20:51  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's true, but building a 4 way track isn't cheap too ;)
10:20:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> if you mean it this way
10:21:20  <Stablean> <Energizer> well yeah but money is not what im talking about
10:21:30  <Stablean> <Energizer> the whole idea of terraforming, I dont like it
10:21:37  <Stablean> <Energizer> unless it's absolutely necessary
10:21:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's problem on your side then ;)
10:22:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> i didn't know it
10:22:09  <Stablean> <Energizer> np lol
10:22:11  <Stablean> <Energizer> still
10:22:14  <Stablean> <Energizer> out of curiousity
10:22:20  <Stablean> <Energizer> how would you suggest to improve that crossing?
10:22:28  <Stablean> <Energizer> I mean, how to build the bridge to use all exits?
10:22:46  <Stablean> <Tepo> a single bridge for every exit?
10:23:01  <Stablean> <Energizer> is there room for so many bridges?
10:23:20  <Stablean> <Tepo> somewhere is, somewhere isn't
10:24:08  <Stablean> <Tepo> but for example at great fratburg there is
10:25:02  <Stablean> <Energizer> hmm
10:25:44  <Stablean> <Energizer> you mean
10:25:46  <Stablean> <Energizer> an entry bridge?
10:27:29  <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah, and don't forget a transmittion from the inner rail ;)
10:27:45  <Stablean> <Energizer> what do you mean?
10:28:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> so trains in the middle of a track can use that bridge too ;)
10:29:08  <Stablean> <Energizer> ah
10:29:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> great ;)
10:29:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> :P
10:30:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> next part is curves ;)
10:30:49  <Stablean> <Tepo> you should build bigger radius even it's near to the station
10:31:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> oh and also you can connect !this !here
10:32:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> cause fast trains are better than slow ones ;)
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10:32:19  <Stablean> <Energizer> well
10:32:25  <Stablean> <Energizer> im
10:32:31  <Stablean> <Energizer> looking at percentages
10:32:49  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> He was impressed with my Tram Engines as some quad tram engine train turned a profit on his formed line before his very eyes.
10:32:51  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD
10:32:58  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *former
10:33:01  <Stablean> <Energizer> im thinking to myself, that if a train goes most of the way (95% or so) in it's max speed
10:33:24  <Stablean> <Energizer> that the other 5% of curves near the station wont matter much
10:33:36  <Stablean> <Tepo> sure, but it's nicer ;)
10:34:12  <Stablean> <Tepo> oh and i almost forgot
10:35:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> the old track isn't needed now ;)
10:35:35  <Stablean> <Energizer> yes
10:35:35  <Stablean> <Energizer> cool
10:35:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> and trains will don't be blocked
10:36:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can try to improve your other exits too, just find the right way how ;)
10:37:13  <Stablean> <Energizer> heh
10:37:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> and don't be afraid of terraforming, say, 1 or 2 tiles ;)
10:37:35  <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah I know one or 2 tiles is cheap
10:37:41  <Stablean> <Energizer> I just have a trauma from it
10:37:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> once I terraformed one tile for 3m
10:37:57  <Stablean> <Energizer> so I rather not play with that too much :D
10:38:07  <Stablean> <Tepo> if you want to build roadway to your house, you have to terraform too ;)
10:38:14  <Stablean> <Tepo> :D
10:38:24  <Stablean> <Energizer> :P
10:38:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> terraforming water is really expensive, that's true
10:39:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> but terraforming on terrain cost +- €50k
10:39:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> and better to shift+click first if you want to know how much will it cost ;)
10:39:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah
10:40:21  <Stablean> <Energizer> btw what do I do with oil rigs?
10:40:39  <Stablean> <Tepo> ?
10:40:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> put sign please
10:40:45  <Stablean> <Energizer> they produce oil?
10:40:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> no generally
10:41:05  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes, that's why they're called oil rigs
10:41:11  <Stablean> <Energizer> :DDD
10:41:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> cause they produce oil ;ú)
10:41:13  <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah but
10:41:15  <Stablean> <Energizer> I mean
10:41:17  <Stablean> <Energizer> I need ships for them
10:41:19  <Stablean> <Energizer> right?
10:41:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> right
10:41:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> but you can find that ones near terrain
10:41:40  <Stablean> <Energizer> ships are also expensive in this game no?
10:42:08  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can own only one ship in this game :D
10:42:30  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can play like there are not oil rigs
10:42:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> there are oil wells too ;)
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10:42:46  <Stablean> <kuch3n> hi
10:42:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> hi
10:42:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> all the oil rigs seem to be used already
10:42:57  <Stablean> <Energizer> hey
10:43:36  <Stablean> <Tepo> there are also other Commodities than oil ;)
10:44:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> anyway i have to go for a lunch
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10:44:20  <Stablean> <Energizer> have fun
10:48:01  <Stablean> <kuch3n> how can i use the autoreplace tool?
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10:51:51  <Stablean> <Tepo> back with a lunch :)
10:52:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> kuch3n: if you allow it in advenced settings, your old vehicles will automatically replace with the same typein depots
10:53:05  <Stablean> <Tepo> but i don't use it
10:56:29  <V453000> isnt it rather autoreplace to new vehicle type? :)
10:56:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> oh sorry,
10:57:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can use autoreplace in the vehicle list by using Manage List -> Replace vehicles
10:58:12  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ah ty
10:58:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> that what i spoke about before was autorenew :)
10:59:52  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nice network V
10:59:58  <Stablean> <V453000> thx ...
11:00:01  <Stablean> <V453000> not yet complete :p
11:00:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> it will be completed when the whole world will run out of iron resources cause V will use it on his island :D
11:00:56  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
11:01:02  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Pinky & Brairn ... :>
11:03:40  <Stablean> <Energizer> hmmm
11:03:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> how do I use the "load if available" option?
11:03:52  <Stablean> <Energizer> in the orders?
11:04:17  <Stablean> <V453000> you just order "unload"
11:04:19  <Stablean> <V453000> or such
11:04:29  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe there is even an option in the Full Load menyu
11:04:33  <Stablean> <Energizer> yeah
11:04:35  <Stablean> <Energizer> I know
11:04:37  <Stablean> <Energizer> but when I click it
11:04:41  <Stablean> <Energizer> it just deleted the load order
11:04:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah
11:04:56  <Stablean> <Energizer> so it's fine?
11:05:15  <Stablean> <Tepo> cause "load if possible" is the original one if you add a new station into order list
11:05:21  <Stablean> <Energizer> ah
11:05:23  <Stablean> <Energizer> I c
11:05:27  <Stablean> <Energizer> so the train will just go there
11:05:30  <Stablean> <Tepo> it just come to a station, take what is in and leave
11:05:32  <Stablean> <Energizer> and load if there's anything in the industry?
11:05:38  <Stablean> <Energizer> kk
11:11:20  <Stablean> <kuch3n> How can i use autoreplace?
11:11:26  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Cant get it..
11:12:18  <Stablean> <Tepo> open vehicle list
11:12:32  <Stablean> <Energizer> I wasnt able to do autoreplace properly too
11:12:35  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nothing in there
11:12:40  <Stablean> <Energizer> it never actually replaced the stuff when I clicked the "replace" button
11:12:56  <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Byebye o,o
11:13:03  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ?
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11:13:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> hold LMB on the "Manage List" button on the bottom of the window
11:13:31  <Stablean> <Tepo> release at "replace vehicles"
11:13:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> in the left part select model, which should be replaced
11:13:52  <Stablean> <Energizer> dont have to hold down the button
11:13:52  <Stablean> <Energizer> :D
11:14:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> in the right part select a new model which will replace that old one selected in the left part
11:14:55  <Stablean> <Tepo> select "Start Replacing Vehicles" in the bottom left corner of a window
11:14:57  <Stablean> <Energizer> any idea why this doesnt work for me?
11:15:04  <Stablean> <Tepo> no
11:15:10  <Stablean> <Tepo> what exactly?
11:15:16  <Stablean> <Energizer> the replace vehicles
11:15:20  <Stablean> <Energizer> it either doesnt work or takes ages
11:15:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> you must send them for a service
11:15:32  <Stablean> <Energizer> ah
11:15:34  <Stablean> <kuch3n> lol
11:15:36  <Stablean> <Energizer> you mean after
11:15:36  <Stablean> <Tepo> they replaces in depots
11:15:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes
11:15:40  <Stablean> <kuch3n> PEBKAC!
11:15:42  <Stablean> <Energizer> I clicked the replace vehicle
11:15:48  <Stablean> <Energizer> I need to send them for maintenance?
11:15:53  <Stablean> <Energizer> or send to depot?
11:15:53  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes
11:15:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> for a manientance
11:16:01  <Stablean> <Energizer> I c
11:16:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> they should go into a depot, replace and go out
11:17:53  <Stablean> <Energizer> btw
11:17:57  <Stablean> <Energizer> is there any way
11:18:03  <Stablean> <Energizer> not to replace the engine
11:18:03  <Stablean> <Energizer> I mean
11:18:05  <Stablean> <Energizer> use the same engine
11:18:07  <Stablean> <Energizer> just buy a new one?
11:18:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> there is
11:18:19  <Stablean> <Energizer> how?
11:18:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> autorenew in advenced settings
11:18:31  <Stablean> <Tepo> but it has no reason
11:18:37  <Stablean> <Energizer> why?
11:18:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> if breakdowns are set off, they don't need to be renewed
11:19:02  <Stablean> <Energizer> oh
11:19:08  <Stablean> <Energizer> and breakdown is off here?
11:19:18  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes
11:19:22  <Stablean> <Energizer> well i'd just do that for the sake of getting rid of those annoying "vehicle is getting old" messages
11:19:32  <Stablean> <Tepo> turn it off :)
11:26:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> i am stupid :D
11:26:51  <Stablean> <Energizer> why?
11:27:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> i forgot something at your station
11:27:24  <Stablean> <Tepo> trains can't get from a station to NW
11:27:36  <Stablean> <Tepo> facepalm
11:28:26  <Stablean> <Tepo> Great Frartburg
11:28:50  <Stablean> <Energizer> right
11:29:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> this way?
11:32:53  <Stablean> <Tepo> i am soo sorry :)
11:33:04  <Stablean> <Energizer> lol np
11:33:10  <Stablean> <Energizer> my bad too
11:33:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> don't forget transmittion :)
11:33:56  <Stablean> <Tepo> you didn't :)
11:33:58  <Stablean> <Energizer> yes
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11:35:44  <Stablean> <kuch3n> the sprite of a tram is fucked up
11:36:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> and?
11:36:48  <Stablean> <kuch3n> looks ugly
11:37:14  <Stablean> <Tepo> now?
11:38:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> okay, cys
11:38:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> *cya
11:38:31  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ciao
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12:21:41  <Stablean> <kuch3n> when will this server restart?
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12:44:28  <V453000> when the game is done :)
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12:47:27  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
12:47:30  <Stablean> <Mks> hi
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12:55:17  <V453000> !server_status
12:55:17  <Stablean> V453000:  14:55pm  up 7 days  2:43,  1 user,  load average: 0.88, 1.13, 1.17
12:55:18  <Stablean> V453000: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.5% ni, 81.4% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
12:55:19  <Stablean> V453000:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 R   43  2.1   1320:59 ./stable -c openttd
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12:59:41  <Stablean> <V453000> kuch3n: great choice of engines :)
13:01:25  <V453000> !rcon set path_backoff_interval
13:01:25  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'path_backoff_interval' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 255)
13:01:28  <V453000> !rcon set path_backoff_interval 10
13:01:34  <V453000> !server_status
13:01:35  <Stablean> V453000:  15:01pm  up 7 days  2:49,  1 user,  load average: 1.31, 1.09, 1.12
13:01:35  <Stablean> V453000: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.5% ni, 81.4% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
13:01:36  <Stablean> V453000:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 S   39  2.1   1323:44 ./stable -c openttd
13:01:46  <Ammler> 10%
13:01:57  <Ammler> !server_status
13:01:57  <Stablean> Ammler:  15:01pm  up 7 days  2:50,  1 user,  load average: 1.07, 1.05, 1.10
13:01:58  <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.5% ni, 81.4% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
13:01:58  <Stablean> Ammler:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 S   37  2.1   1323:53 ./stable -c openttd
13:02:03  <V453000> 7 :)
13:02:14  <Ammler> !rcon set path_backoff_interval 20
13:02:16  <V453000> ok 6 :)
13:02:18  <Ammler> !server_status
13:02:18  <Stablean> Ammler:  15:02pm  up 7 days  2:50,  1 user,  load average: 0.83, 1.00, 1.08
13:02:18  <Stablean> Ammler: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.5% ni, 81.4% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
13:02:19  <Stablean> Ammler:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 R   35  2.1   1324:01 ./stable -c openttd
13:02:22  <V453000> :)
13:02:49  <Ammler> but on coop gaems, you can't use that
13:03:07  <V453000> you mean PBS gets too slow then?
13:03:14  <Ammler> yes
13:03:23  <V453000> depends if we use it :)
13:03:28  <V453000> we shouldnt. :)
13:03:29  <Ammler> yep
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13:03:42  <V453000> :<
13:03:45  <Ammler> and if you don't use it, it doesn't have effect also with 1
13:03:55  <V453000> yea sure :)
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13:07:08  <V453000> a great tool for coop games would be some map mode where it would show PBS signals :)
13:07:15  <V453000> just to get rid of them :)
13:08:39  <Ammler> the logic game?
13:09:46  <V453000> any game :)
13:11:05  <planetmaker> :-)
13:11:12  * planetmaker frequently uses pbs signals, though
13:11:52  <planetmaker> but not on plain tracks, of course ;-)
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13:15:04  <V453000> screewsss :)
13:17:12  <Stablean> <kuch3n> we can use ships?
13:19:31  <Ammler> !rcon max_ships
13:19:31  <Stablean> Ammler: ERROR: command not found
13:19:34  <Ammler> !rcon set max_ships
13:19:34  <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'max_ships' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 5000)
13:19:38  <Ammler> yes, you can ;-)
13:19:44  <Stablean> <kuch3n> no.
13:19:47  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Yes, we can!
13:20:02  <Ammler> as many as you like
13:20:08  <Ammler> (until you reach the limit)
13:20:20  <Stablean> <kuch3n> limit reached oO
13:20:27  <Ammler> :-D
13:20:34  <Stablean> <kuch3n> with two ships..
13:20:39  <Ammler> :-o
13:20:50  <Stablean> <kuch3n> and 75% water .
13:21:16  <Ammler> if the map has much water, it is even more important to limit ships
13:21:31  <Stablean> <kuch3n> yea, but two ships?
13:21:41  <Ammler>  how many would you like?
13:21:47  <Stablean> <kuch3n> 2501
13:21:55  <Stablean> <kuch3n> as many as oil rigs
13:22:27  <Ammler> build a pipe for the oil
13:22:41  <Ammler> and use helicopters for the pax
13:22:56  <Stablean> <kuch3n> :>
13:23:03  <Stablean> <kuch3n> pipe?
13:23:14  <Ammler> distant-join station
13:23:20  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ah ok
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13:26:43  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant use buoys :)
13:26:46  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant have ships.
13:26:56  <Stablean> <kuch3n> buyos?
13:27:12  <Stablean> <V453000> the small floating things that direct ships
13:27:23  <Stablean> <kuch3n> :'(
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13:43:06  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> hi
13:43:18  <Stablean> <Chimera> hey there
13:43:20  <Stablean> <kuch3n> hi
13:43:22  <V453000> hi
13:44:20  <Stablean> <Chimera> guys I have a question .. about station graphics ? are they for eyecandy only .. or have functionality also
13:44:36  <V453000> just look :)
13:44:38  <Stablean> <Chimera> like .. mineral unloader unloading faster coal
13:44:44  <V453000> nono
13:44:48  <V453000> no effect on mechanics
13:44:51  <V453000> it only looks nice :)
13:44:59  <Stablean> <Chimera> oky thanx
13:45:18  <Stablean> <kuch3n> someone got a shot for me? Terraforming water was very expensive ;(
13:46:06  <V453000> your bad :p
13:46:08  <Stablean> <Chimera> well as far as I noticed this place is focused mainly on design rather then uber straight lines efficiency :)
13:46:19  <V453000> ?
13:46:27  <Stablean> <kuch3n> i dont build 50L bridges..
13:46:47  <Stablean> <Chimera> and terraforming in general costs very much .. wich kinda makes you improvise
13:47:03  <V453000> well otherwise people demolish the map and it gets boring
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13:48:05  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Who is pink?
13:48:13  <Stablean> <V453000> not me :)
13:48:31  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ho got a strange dead end not used track which is in my way
13:48:37  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> at !delete
13:48:41  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
13:49:17  <Stablean> <kuch3n> why nobody wants coop on this server?
13:49:39  <Stablean> <Chimera> what's coop ?
13:49:45  <Stablean> <kuch3n> co operative
13:50:01  <Stablean> <Chimera> like more people sharing the company ?
13:50:04  <Stablean> <kuch3n> yea
13:50:06  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
13:50:16  <Stablean> <Chimera> can you still build in the same time ?
13:50:23  <Stablean> <kuch3n> sure
13:50:39  <Stablean> <Chimera> well I want :D
13:50:47  <Stablean> <kuch3n> did u raed the wiki
13:50:57  <Stablean> <Chimera> let's merge companies
13:51:05  <Stablean> <kuch3n> dont know if this works
13:53:07  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Can someone delete taht piece of pink unused railway?
13:53:13  <Stablean> <V453000> why
13:53:20  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> It is in my wya
13:53:22  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> way8
13:53:24  <Stablean> <kuch3n> jor[D]1: Why? It looksvery nice
13:53:26  <Stablean> <V453000> not really
13:53:37  <Stablean> <V453000> just go over it
13:53:45  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> how?
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13:54:31  <V453000> bridge?
13:54:50  <V453000> seriously, there is no reason to delete this, even though it is unused and pointless
13:54:52  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> THen i cant connect everything properly
13:55:17  <Stablean> <Chimera> it's part of return track i belive
13:55:17  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> It's some stupid dead end which isn't used anymore
13:55:40  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> It was part of a station entrance
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13:59:12  <Stablean> <kuch3n> V453000:  can u enable more ships pls? :)
13:59:23  <V453000> !rcon set max_ships
13:59:23  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'max_ships' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 5000)
13:59:25  <V453000> !rcon set max_ships 0
13:59:26  <V453000> sure
13:59:31  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ty
13:59:35  <planetmaker> :-D
13:59:37  <Stablean> <kuch3n> and what is stablean?
13:59:51  <planetmaker> the server
14:00:26  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Too many Vehicles in game :(((
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14:02:39  <Stablean> <Mks> mm you can't make maglev mail only trains?
14:02:49  <Stablean> <V453000> obviously not :)
14:03:00  <Stablean> <Mks> I have to much mail
14:03:02  <Stablean> <V453000> only the two middle cars refit afaik
14:03:27  <Stablean> <kuch3n> only the two, yes
14:03:44  <Stablean> <Mks> I want more mail trains
14:03:50  <Stablean> <V453000> use rail :)
14:03:52  <Stablean> <Mks> naa
14:03:58  <Stablean> <Mks> alrdy have a maglev track
14:04:02  <Stablean> <V453000> maglev sucks
14:04:04  <Stablean> <Mks> no
14:04:08  <Stablean> <Mks> maglev is good
14:04:32  <Stablean> <Mks> its fast :)
14:04:46  <Stablean> <kuch3n> shiiipppps \o/
14:05:15  <Stablean> <V453000> you have enough ships already
14:05:19  <Stablean> <kuch3n> one?
14:05:29  <Stablean> <V453000> oh, then you have even too many
14:05:49  <Stablean> <Mks> I can't have any ships
14:05:53  <Stablean> <V453000> why do you think words ship and shit are so close
14:06:10  <Stablean> <kuch3n> :p
14:07:11  <Stablean> <Mks> have you seen my intercity maglev line V?
14:07:29  <Stablean> <V453000> whats with it :)
14:07:43  <Stablean> <Mks> well its long :P
14:07:53  <Stablean> <V453000> well but that is the only attribute it has
14:07:55  <Stablean> <V453000> it sucks :)
14:08:05  <Stablean> <Mks> haha
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14:15:21  <^Spike^> !server_status
14:15:21  <Stablean> ^Spike^:  16:15pm  up 7 days  4:03,  1 user,  load average: 0.74, 0.87, 1.00
14:15:21  <Stablean> ^Spike^: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.5% ni, 81.4% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
14:15:22  <Stablean> ^Spike^:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 S   40  2.1   1354:22 ./stable -c openttd
14:15:28  <^Spike^> 40%
14:15:36  <Stablean> <Mks> can't you transport oil with helicopters?
14:16:17  <Stablean> <V453000> you can
14:16:23  <Stablean> <kuch3n> what? oO
14:16:28  <Ammler> bimps
14:16:33  <Stablean> <V453000> itwill only get a bit expensive :)
14:16:43  <Stablean> <kuch3n> -.-"
14:17:03  <Stablean> <kuch3n> 3M a year
14:17:05  <Stablean> <kuch3n> holy shit
14:17:15  <Stablean> <Mks> damn
14:17:25  <Stablean> <Mks> why so expensive running cost on Air?
14:17:40  <Stablean> <Mks> its cheaper to TF some land
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14:18:45  <Stablean> <kuch3n> which train r u using Mks?
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14:21:03  <V453000> because air is retarded :)
14:24:45  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Mks, how is the train called which u use in east
14:25:00  <Stablean> <kuch3n> GEC?
14:25:00  <Stablean> <Mks> mm
14:25:02  <Stablean> <Mks> my coal trians?
14:25:04  <Stablean> <kuch3n> yep
14:25:08  <Stablean> <Mks> GEC 91
14:25:28  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ty
14:26:00  <Stablean> <Mks> all my trains have that Loco except the maglev line
14:49:52  <Stablean> <kuch3n> does this server restart today?
14:50:07  <V453000> no
14:50:13  <V453000> unless people want to
14:50:23  <V453000> but I think there is still stuff to do
14:51:11  <Stablean> <kuch3n> 666 tons of coal, not transported :D
14:59:58  <Stablean> <kuch3n> V, chuworth woods needs more trains
15:08:50  <Stablean> <Chimera> yep :D missing
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15:14:01  <Tepo99> hi again :)
15:14:06  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> hi
15:15:10  <Tepo99> BTW: Oh, an end of the world, i am sooo scared XD
15:16:41  <Tepo99> (just watching some stupid vids on youtube)
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15:19:56  <Stablean> <Tepo> A1 still so long? :D
15:20:12  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I made the A1 longer then one exit now :P
15:20:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> i've made A2 :P
15:20:32  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Almost running straigt through the city
15:20:39  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I have seen it
15:21:00  <Stablean> <Tepo> better than my old one?
15:21:08  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> yep
15:21:14  <Stablean> <Tepo> thx ^^
15:21:31  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Lookse more highway
15:21:45  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> LOL
15:21:51  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> tollboth
15:21:51  <Stablean> <Tepo> just cause there're one-way roads and texts :D
15:22:19  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> THe toll both i will keep in mind
15:22:32  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> You can also make fuel station
15:22:44  <Stablean> <Tepo> on IS server, i did ;)
15:22:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> I'll show you
15:23:01  <Stablean> <Tepo> how i made it
15:23:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> check sign
15:24:07  <Stablean> <Tepo> they're good for autoreplace :)
15:24:21  <Stablean> <Tepo> but doesn't look like a real gas stations
15:24:29  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Yep
15:24:44  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Maybe
15:24:56  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Some bus station
15:25:10  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> looks more like a fuels station
15:25:16  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ot both
15:25:18  <Stablean> <Tepo> true
15:25:51  <Stablean> <Tepo> this way it's nicer :)
15:26:01  <Stablean> <Tepo> + there is a car wash too :)
15:26:05  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> With diagonal road you could build nice highways adn on/off ramps
15:26:11  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> :p
15:26:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> thinking about it
15:26:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> and you don't need special vehicle sprites for it :)
15:27:29  <V453000> you need to add sprites to all rails to rail crossings :)
15:27:41  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Sprites?
15:27:46  <V453000> well or just keep them straight
15:27:49  <Stablean> <Tepo> what if they're already made?
15:27:55  <V453000> they arent. :)
15:27:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> sure
15:28:10  <V453000> who would ever make things for diagonal roads :)
15:28:14  <Stablean> <Tepo> there are only diagonal crossings sprites
15:28:46  <planetmaker> <V453000> you need to add sprites to all rails to rail crossings :) <-- that's 4 * 2 * 2 sprites
15:29:01  <planetmaker> actually... twice that many ;-)
15:29:05  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> what are sprites?
15:29:21  <planetmaker> the graphic elements the game uses to draw what you see
15:29:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> pictures showed in games
15:29:27  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ow
15:30:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> for example, locos are just 8 pictures showed correctly in game
15:30:31  <Stablean> <Tepo> these pictures are called sprites
15:30:54  <V453000> pm: yea thats hell of a lot but ... I guess in that case would bridges still be as they are now, no diagonal bridges ... why not to keep crossings the same :)
15:31:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> it can be like a railways
15:31:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> diagonals are only rails
15:31:31  <planetmaker> V453000, bridges and level crossings are different things
15:31:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> not station, bridges, depots and so on
15:31:44  <planetmaker> so... in order to add one thing the other is not required and vice versa
15:31:47  <V453000> im not comparing them, just saying they could be kept as they are :)
15:31:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> even diagonal railway crossing aren't too
15:32:56  <planetmaker> and the required 32 sprites are not the obstacle which stops diagonal roads becoming reality
15:33:18  <planetmaker> well. Add another few sprites needed for the diagonal roads themselves
15:33:19  <Stablean> <Tepo> i can try to draw some
15:33:24  <planetmaker> Still. That's feasable.
15:33:30  <planetmaker> The problem is the code ;-)
15:33:53  <planetmaker> which will need to interface A LOT of things which are non-trivial; most notably all path-finders
15:34:05  <V453000> :) yea
15:34:18  <Stablean> <kuch3n> will openttd get ever 3D?
15:34:28  <Stablean> <Tepo> i believe no
15:34:36  <V453000> 3D? lol?
15:34:46  <planetmaker> then it's not Open_TTD_ anymore
15:34:47  <V453000> also I dont see a reason for diagonal roads tbh :)
15:34:53  <V453000> indeed :)
15:35:25  <Stablean> <kuch3n> what about a school as a new industry
15:35:26  <Stablean> <kuch3n> or university
15:35:35  <V453000> ??
15:35:40  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> What does that add?
15:35:42  <Stablean> <kuch3n> like a bank
15:35:44  <V453000> what would that do
15:35:51  <V453000> empty beer bottles?
15:35:55  <Stablean> <Tepo> sure, i will get some old computer and play Transport Tycoon Deluxe on it (not Open or patch, just original game)
15:35:58  <V453000> cigarette remains? :D
15:36:19  <Stablean> <kuch3n> more traffic in the city
15:36:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> if you want traffic, use Town Cars AI
15:38:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> cigarette remains, that was good :)
15:39:12  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> So the A1 is temporary finished
15:40:17  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> EVERYBODY MAY USE THE A1 FOR FREE
15:40:23  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> stupid caps lock
15:40:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> A2 has been extended right now
15:40:48  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> nice
15:41:04  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> YOu msut clear out  the old road
15:41:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> i will
15:41:30  <Stablean> <Chimera> hmm is the oneway thinggie for real .. or only for show ?
15:41:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> what do you mean?
15:42:06  <Stablean> <Chimera> i mean vehicles can actually only go one way ?
15:42:26  <planetmaker> try?
15:42:51  <V453000> pm: you want to kill him? :D
15:43:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> i am sorry, my english is too bad, so i don't understand you :(
15:43:12  <Stablean> <Tepo> or i am just stupid :D
15:43:53  <V453000> Tepo: pta se, jestli jsou ty jednosmerky jakoze tam opravdu auta jezdej jednim smerem, nebo jenom kosmeticky
15:43:57  <planetmaker> Tepo99, one-way roads. The question is: do they work
15:44:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> they work :)
15:44:17  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Yep
15:44:19  <Tepo99> thanks guys
15:44:19  <Stablean> <Chimera> cool
15:44:19  <planetmaker> oh... you spoilt it :-(
15:44:22  <V453000> :)
15:44:41  <Stablean> <Tepo> i told it, i am stupid ;)
15:44:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> at least i think they works
15:46:12  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> LOL
15:46:24  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Who built taht strange tram?
15:46:26  <Stablean> <Tepo> what?
15:46:33  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> NEdinghatten?
15:46:45  <Stablean> <Chimera> me
15:46:47  <Stablean> <Chimera> me
15:46:53  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I made a better track :P
15:47:07  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> or for sure a nicer looking track
15:47:18  <Stablean> <Tepo> can that tram turn in a station?
15:47:32  <Stablean> <Chimera> didn't want to obstuct the highway entrance :P
15:47:42  <Stablean> <Chimera> was gunna use that forbuses :P
15:47:44  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> It don't obstruct?
15:47:47  <Stablean> <Chimera> and
15:47:54  <Stablean> <Chimera> slows them down ?
15:48:12  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> THe many covers in your tram slow it also down
15:48:22  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Even less
15:48:40  <Stablean> <kuch3n> What is 18cm and makes every woman happy?
15:48:47  <Stablean> <Tepo> lol, i've build some tollbooths and i see them also on A1 :)
15:48:59  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> :P
15:49:09  <Stablean> <kuch3n> A 500€ banknote..
15:49:15  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> otherwise truck maybe will ride through the innercity
15:49:25  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> now i could do via
15:49:43  <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah, in city, toll booths aren't good
15:50:04  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> aren't
15:50:18  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> in openttd they are
15:50:36  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> otherwise the truck will shortcut the highway by using city streets
15:50:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> i mean RVs will drive in the city, so that HW don't need to be here
15:51:00  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> it does
15:51:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> imagine 200 trucks using one street
15:51:56  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> THe A1 has  lots of exits i think
15:52:06  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Very short after each other
15:52:38  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> But i don't build it for industries but to connect cities
15:54:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> never mind, DD will come and use it for industries :)
15:54:19  <V453000> DD is gone to greece :)
15:54:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> i mean in general
16:02:44  <Stablean> <Tepo> A construction of A3 started!
16:05:07  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Just use toll
16:05:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> i want my RVs on Highway
16:05:19  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> and set your RV's on: Go Via
16:05:21  <Stablean> <Tepo> not in city
16:05:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> :)
16:05:33  <Stablean> <Tepo> good idea
16:05:35  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> WOW
16:05:43  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> place toll on exits :P
16:05:51  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> will also work
16:08:49  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Gonna make some B roads
16:09:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> what do you say on my intersection?
16:09:21  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ??
16:09:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> *about my
16:09:29  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> You got a jam
16:09:39  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I am going to make some small B roads
16:09:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> jam? where?
16:10:10  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> A3
16:10:19  <Stablean> <Tepo> oh, there
16:10:33  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> See next to the B1
16:10:40  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Also mines
16:10:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> i see
16:10:48  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Canwell
16:11:54  <Stablean> <Chimera> nice .. A1 works :D
16:12:08  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ok
16:13:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> okay, so i'll mark B2 :)
16:13:41  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> I marked A B2 already
16:13:50  <Stablean> <Tepo> so B3 ;)
16:13:52  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> SonWorth
16:14:04  <Stablean> <Tepo> or what is the next free number ;)
16:14:13  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Ow and B road have to lay a little outside villages
16:14:27  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Adn hav emax one connecting road with village
16:14:29  <Stablean> <kuch3n> what is the senses of such roads?
16:14:35  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> B3 you can do
16:14:37  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Fun
16:17:40  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> lol sonburg west looks like a service station of the B4
16:18:26  <Stablean> <Tepo> i can move it away :)
16:18:42  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ?
16:18:49  <Stablean> <Tepo> Sonburg west
16:18:56  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> like that:
16:19:30  <Stablean> <Tepo> like that
16:19:40  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> now it is transferium
16:20:09  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Delete your lane
16:20:19  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> nice
16:20:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> :)
16:21:07  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> B4 is big
16:21:45  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Got to go
16:21:48  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> bye
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16:21:55  <Stablean> <Tepo> cya
16:30:00  <Stablean> <Tepo> premission to incerase max RV limit?
16:30:08  <V453000> no
16:30:12  <V453000> !server_status
16:30:12  <Stablean> V453000:  18:30pm  up 7 days  6:18,  1 user,  load average: 2.37, 2.20, 1.71
16:30:12  <Stablean> V453000: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.6% ni, 81.3% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
16:30:13  <Stablean> V453000:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 S   52  2.1   1414:58 ./stable -c openttd
16:30:13  <Stablean> <kuch3n> premission?
16:30:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes, premission
16:30:47  <Stablean> <Tepo> please, i need 10 more RVs
16:30:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> or actualy no :)
16:35:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> what's the difference between 1000 trains and 100 RVs?
16:35:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> *1000 RVs
16:36:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> can i know?
16:37:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> also, your goods trains are too slow, V
16:38:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> you have 1k crates of goods waiting in the station
16:43:22  <V453000> very simple difference, it takes way shorter time to build 1000 RVs
16:43:24  <V453000> and RVs lag a lot more
16:43:35  <V453000> also, we support building large train networks, RVs are supposed to be only occasional
16:43:49  <V453000> 300 has to be enough.
16:44:11  <Mks> 300 is quite alot
16:44:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> oh, i didn't know, TT is Train-Only game :)
16:44:41  <V453000> did I talk about openttd in general?
16:44:45  <Stablean> <Mks> is 300 roads train only?
16:45:05  <Stablean> <Tepo> nevermind
16:46:27  <Stablean> <kuch3n> noooo
16:46:38  <Stablean> <Mks> do the fuel station acually do anything?
16:46:40  <Stablean> <Mks> or just for fun?
16:46:46  <Stablean> <Tepo> just eye-candy
16:46:56  <Stablean> <Tepo> like tollbooths :)
16:48:10  <Stablean> <Mks> is there an IS server up?
16:48:15  <V453000> no
16:48:19  <Stablean> <kuch3n> "IS"?
16:48:21  <Stablean> <Tepo> i don't think so
16:48:28  <Stablean> <Tepo> Infrastructure Sharing
16:48:42  <Stablean> <Mks> nobody bother about that anymore?
16:48:54  <V453000> definitely not me :)
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17:21:52  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ello
17:21:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> hey
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18:06:50  <Tepo99> !server_status
18:06:50  <Stablean> Tepo99:  20:06pm  up 7 days  7:55,  2 users,  load average: 1.48, 1.31, 1.13
18:06:51  <Stablean> Tepo99: Cpu(s): 10.2% us,  1.7% sy,  6.7% ni, 81.2% id,  0.1% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
18:06:51  <Stablean> Tepo99:  3885 ottdc     26  10  144m  42m 4304 R   40  2.1   1460:30 ./stable -c openttd
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18:16:14  <V453000> 3 clients in front of you
18:16:18  <V453000> bloody hell
18:16:28  <Stablean> <Tepo> :D
18:16:35  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ?
18:16:45  <Stablean> <Mks> what?
18:16:52  <V453000> im connecting to the game
18:16:54  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
18:17:06  <V453000> ok now 2 :D
18:17:10  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
18:17:12  <Stablean> <kuch3n> i get a connection within 2sec..
18:17:29  <V453000> me normally too
18:18:18  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
18:19:19  <Stablean> <Mks> V since you don't like bridges I am removing them :)
18:19:26  <V453000> lol
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18:19:39  <V453000> hmm what is going on here
18:19:43  <V453000> 3 clients in front of you
18:20:04  <Stablean> <kuch3n> server bugged?
18:20:42  <V453000> there were just two stuck clients
18:20:45  <V453000> somehow
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18:21:00  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
18:21:00  <Stablean> <Chimera> yay i'm in :D
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18:21:08  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Chimera it was
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18:22:12  <Stablean> <V453000> epic win :D
18:22:14  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ?
18:22:37  <Stablean> <V453000> crashed trainz
18:22:39  <Stablean> <kuch3n> where?
18:23:38  <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: that isnt any better :D
18:23:50  <Stablean> <Mks> well I ain't raising land at least
18:24:17  <Stablean> <V453000> still :)
18:24:27  <Stablean> <Mks> its quite expensive tho
18:24:41  <Stablean> <Mks> just wasted 1 billion
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18:24:57  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> finaly i'm in
18:25:05  <Stablean> <Mks> I think it looks better then bridges at least
18:25:18  <Stablean> <V453000> not rly :)
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18:26:00  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Tepo?
18:26:08  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes?
18:26:10  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> numbered any roads?
18:26:14  <Stablean> <Tepo> no
18:26:18  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ok
18:26:26  <Stablean> <Tepo> i was replacing RVs by trainz
18:26:32  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> ok
18:26:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> *trains
18:33:20  <Stablean> <Chimera> mk mind if I get a couple of lines to Hutborough goods sawmill to get to my city ?
18:34:10  <Stablean> <Mks> well I prefer not but I can build a new sawmill for you if you wish
18:34:14  <Stablean> <Mks> and spawn some trees
18:34:38  <Stablean> <Chimera> yesss please
18:34:50  <Stablean> <Chimera> aaa
18:34:58  <Stablean> <Chimera> hmmm think I can do it myself
18:35:02  <Stablean> <Mks> ok I'll spawn some forest
18:35:13  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah you probably can
18:35:15  <Stablean> <Chimera> got 48 mil and it seems it's rather cheap
18:35:15  <Stablean> <V453000> I did already :)
18:35:36  <Stablean> <Mks> damn you have more money then me V :)
18:35:50  <Stablean> <kuch3n> than :d
18:35:57  <Stablean> <V453000> he
18:35:59  <Stablean> <V453000> whatever
18:36:53  <Stablean> <Tepo> money ain't everything
18:36:58  <Stablean> <Mks> true
18:37:01  <Stablean> <Mks> I still have enough I guess
18:37:03  <Stablean> <V453000> money is nothing, rather :)
18:37:11  <Stablean> <Mks> but
18:37:15  <Stablean> <Mks> I might be poor soon
18:37:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> you need incomes
18:38:07  <Stablean> <Tepo> sell your sport car, you'll get some money :D
18:38:09  <Stablean> <Mks> I have
18:38:19  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe
18:39:32  <Stablean> <Mks> seems your all alone on your island V
18:39:43  <Stablean> <V453000> sure
18:39:57  <Stablean> <V453000> I advise not invading it :)
18:39:59  <Stablean> <kuch3n> what is left to do here?
18:44:15  <Stablean> <Tepo> there are few forests and coal mines (at least i see)
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18:44:59  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah and can always spawn more
18:46:42  <Stablean> <Chimera> can I use an engine that is 'suitable for express passengers' to pull out freight ?
18:46:51  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nope
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18:47:01  <Stablean> <V453000> you can .
18:47:07  <Stablean> <kuch3n> what?
18:47:12  <Stablean> <V453000> as long as it supports the wagons
18:48:07  <Stablean> <Mks> GEC class 91 is the fastest loco for most type of cargo, other then passengers and mail/Goods
18:53:34  <Stablean> <Chimera> oky brb as soon as I get home :D
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18:54:17  <Stablean> <kuch3n> *
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18:57:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> why there isn't that one boat? i wanted to build a dock, but i can't  :(
18:57:25  <Stablean> <Mks> kuch3n got a boat
18:57:36  <Stablean> <Mks> he is the only one I think
18:57:42  <Stablean> <kuch3n> there are two
18:57:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> brown got too
18:57:52  <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh
18:58:02  <Stablean> <Mks> well beg V to give you a boat :)
18:58:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> i don't need to
18:58:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> i can take on myself
18:58:20  <Stablean> <Mks> ohhh
18:58:22  <Stablean> <Mks> nice :)
18:58:27  <Stablean> <V453000> and I can remove your op :)
18:58:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> + i don't want a boat, just a dock
18:58:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> like an eye-cand
18:58:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> *candy
18:59:00  <Stablean> <Mks> I didn't know you could enable boats only for certain companies and not all
18:59:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can't
18:59:34  <Stablean> <Mks> you mean V enabled 1 boat for everyone
18:59:37  <Stablean> <Mks> then removed it again
18:59:39  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes
18:59:43  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh
18:59:50  <Stablean> <Mks> still could allow 1 boat V :P
19:01:15  <Stablean> <V453000> you know very well I will not :)
19:01:36  <Stablean> <Mks> yes but 1 boat can't slow down server can it?
19:01:41  <Stablean> <Tepo> can
19:01:49  <Stablean> <Tepo> by 0,001% :D
19:01:53  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe
19:02:39  <Stablean> <V453000> 1 boat will not help you either :)
19:02:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> i know
19:02:54  <Stablean> <Tepo> i want dock like an eye-candy
19:02:58  <Stablean> <Tepo> can i?
19:03:18  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess you can
19:03:20  <Stablean> <V453000> without boats.
19:03:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> ^^
19:03:54  <Tepo99> !rcon set max_ships 1
19:04:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> thanks V ^^
19:04:17  <V453000> !players
19:04:20  <Stablean> V453000: Client 607 (White) is kuch3n, in company 6 (kuch3n Transport)
19:04:20  <Stablean> V453000: Client 621 (Red) is Mks, in company 2 (Mks Transport)
19:04:20  <Stablean> V453000: Client 702 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (The Island of Rails)
19:04:20  <Stablean> V453000: Client 704 (Dark Blue) is jor[D]1, in company 9 (Haagse Tram Maatschappij)
19:04:20  <Stablean> V453000: Client 645 (Grey) is Tepo, in company 11 (Tepo Transport)
19:04:23  <V453000> !rcon kick 645
19:04:23  <Stablean> V453000: *** Tepo has left the game (kicked by server)
19:04:23  <Stablean> V453000: *** Tepo has left the game (connection lost)
19:04:33  <Tepo99> ?
19:04:45  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nice :D
19:04:56  <Tepo99> hey, it hurts
19:05:03  <Stablean> *** Tepo joined the game
19:05:08  <V453000> !rcon set max_ships 0
19:05:30  *** V453000 sets mode: -o Tepo99
19:06:52  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
19:07:05  <Tepo99> :(
19:07:37  <Stablean> <Tepo> i am not an op anymore :(((
19:07:43  <Stablean> <Tepo> why?
19:07:49  <Stablean> <kuch3n> operator?
19:07:53  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes, on IRC
19:08:07  <Stablean> *** OG Matautas joined the game
19:08:45  <Stablean> <kuch3n> on which channel
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19:08:53  <Stablean> <Tepo> #openttdcoop.stable
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19:09:09  <Tepo99> :D
19:09:15  <kuch3n_> ah this one :)
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19:12:04  <Stablean> <Tepo> caboom!
19:12:08  <Stablean> <kuch3n> ?
19:12:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> Crash
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19:13:22  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> hey
19:13:27  <Stablean> <V453000> hi OG
19:13:56  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> how are your scouts? :))
19:14:06  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
19:14:16  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> the tourist scouts from ur country
19:14:41  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> dont u know?
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19:16:48  <Tepo99> shit
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19:30:48  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> soo
19:30:56  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh crash
19:31:02  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> where?
19:31:04  <Stablean> <kuch3n> yep :)
19:31:14  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nortern left edge
19:31:20  <Stablean> <Mks> meninghall
19:31:29  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> uu
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19:48:50  <Stablean> <Chimera> don't cities build roads automatically when they expand ?
19:48:56  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nope
19:48:58  <Stablean> <kuch3n> turned off here
19:49:24  <Stablean> <Chimera> heh ups .. then it seems i must demolish some buildings to expand my city :D
19:49:48  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> its allways like that
19:55:56  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> NOOOOOOOOOO
19:55:59  <Stablean> <kuch3n> huh?
19:56:01  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> woot
19:56:18  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Stupid unused station dating from 1950 orso is in my way :(
19:56:29  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> owned by pink
19:56:42  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> tunnel
19:56:44  <Stablean> <kuch3n> build tunnels
19:56:56  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> Just one tile to little of space
19:57:10  <Stablean> <kuch3n> where?
19:57:40  <Stablean> <kuch3n> :-D
20:03:03  <Stablean> <jor[D]1> WOW is fits there
20:05:28  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Somebodys got too much money?
20:06:32  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> dont use my phrase
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20:26:21  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> need money :/
20:26:23  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> badly
20:26:25  <Stablean> <kuch3n> me too :>
20:26:50  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> im fucked
20:27:28  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> \ty
20:36:56  <Stablean> <kuch3n> need !help
20:37:07  <Stablean> <kuch3n> cant get way trains dont drive the right way
20:37:42  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> aam
20:38:15  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> they do
20:38:25  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> but this is fuckd up
20:38:27  <Stablean> <kuch3n> hmm wrong orders
20:40:42  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> two line station is enough over there
20:40:48  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> also
20:40:52  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> u made it too long
20:41:05  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> 3 squares is enough
20:41:25  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> the load speed will remain the same
20:41:51  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> 3 not 2 :)
20:41:57  <Stablean> <Mks> now its to short :)
20:42:07  <Stablean> <Mks> should be 1 tile longer
20:42:13  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> gud
20:43:30  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> ~~~this is complicated
20:43:33  <Stablean> <Mks> if you want the town to grow you need to build roads
20:43:50  <Stablean> <Mks> what is?
20:43:56  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> mks - not necaserily?
20:44:02  <Stablean> <Mks> well
20:44:06  <Stablean> <Mks> town grows anyway
20:44:08  <Stablean> <Mks> but
20:44:11  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> slowa
20:44:19  <Stablean> <Mks> its a bit limited when it can't grow in a bigger area
21:15:03  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> aaa
21:15:07  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> any proz?
21:15:37  <Stablean> *** OG Matautas has requested an admin
21:15:57  <PeterT> hi
21:16:03  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> yo
21:16:11  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> can u check WTF?
21:16:13  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> sign
21:17:26  <Ammler> !playercount
21:17:26  <Stablean> Ammler: Number of players: 4
21:17:31  <Ammler> !screen
21:17:32  <Stablean> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00071189:
21:17:37  <Ammler> !info
21:17:37  <Stablean> Ammler:
21:18:11  <Ammler> OG, what is with?
21:18:16  <kuch3n_> Ammler: weird link
21:18:22  <Ammler> yes broken
21:18:28  <Ammler> but the screen is on the info page
21:18:40  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> yay
21:19:06  <Ammler> OG, what is "wtf" there?
21:19:19  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> trains fukin up
21:19:26  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> but signaling seemed fine
21:20:17  <Stablean> <Chimera> hmm at some point my road vehicles don't seem to want toexit depot anymore
21:20:20  <Stablean> <kuch3n> take entrance and exit signals
21:20:20  <Ammler> that is actually a place where PBS is better then block signals
21:20:21  <Stablean> <Chimera> any ideeas
21:20:43  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> will it be fine?
21:20:52  <Ammler> we use 2way-red=EOL
21:21:06  <Ammler> so lost trains can go really lost in such stations
21:24:18  <Stablean> <Chimera> sigh ... i hate it ... after timetabling 60 RV :(
21:24:48  <Stablean> <OG Matautas> goodnight
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21:30:59  <Stablean> <Mks> Og I built my HQ neat yours :P
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21:47:50  <Stablean> <Mks> Kuch3n you here?
21:47:52  <Stablean> <kuch3n> yep
21:47:58  <Stablean> <Mks> check out my HQ
21:48:12  <Stablean> <kuch3n> nice :D
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22:55:39  <Stablean> <Chimera> any ideea at what % of transported goods I need to keep an industry in order to get it to raise production ?
22:56:09  <Stablean> <kuch3n> over 70
22:56:19  <Stablean> <Chimera> tnx
22:56:29  <Stablean> <kuch3n> recommended >90
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