Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 7th February 2011:
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08:36:27  <V453000> !date
08:36:27  <Stablean> V453000: 10 Oct 2068
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09:01:09  <planetmaker> moin V453000 :-)
09:01:20  <V453000> hi :)
09:01:25  <V453000> we start when people gather ;)
09:01:26  <planetmaker> with "your" bugs fixed, it's been time for a new release ;-)
09:01:27  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - OpenGFX+ Trains (at
09:01:39  <V453000> oh, nice :)
09:02:41  <V453000> V34500 xD
09:02:49  <V453000> cool "spelling" ;)
09:02:58  <planetmaker> hm?
09:03:16  <V453000> you wrote my name that way ;) but thanks for refference :)
09:03:28  <planetmaker> oh :-P
09:03:28  <V453000> people on tt-forums have no idea who I am anyway ;)
09:03:57  <planetmaker> I first wrote VbigNumber and changed it to that what it is now - seems I still don't recall the bigNumber properly ;-)
09:04:14  <V453000> :P
09:04:36  <planetmaker> fixed ;-)
09:04:56  <V453000> I can safely tell you that there is nobody who would remember my name :p
09:04:58  <V453000> thanks :)
09:05:17  <V453000> just V"plus all that shit in the end"
09:05:33  <planetmaker> Vasek is less leet and easier to remember ;-)
09:05:50  <planetmaker> and I spellt that wrongly, too, I'm sure ;-)
09:06:03  <V453000> he, well when you already know the real name, then it is easy to remember the numbers :P
09:06:07  <V453000> nah, this is correct :)
09:07:01  <V453000> seems like we have some more stuff to test here :P
09:07:11  <planetmaker> ;-)
09:07:35  <planetmaker> well, as scenario developer we can update the scenario ;-)
09:07:49  <V453000> np with me :)
09:08:01  <planetmaker> I'd add it probably as 2nd train set?
09:08:09  <planetmaker> or swap?
09:08:23  <V453000> as long as you have no vehicles there, it should be possible to remove the first one
09:08:31  <planetmaker> but I can't do that before probably (late) tonight
09:08:35  <V453000> but ... try :)
09:08:38  <V453000> I will, np
09:08:42  <planetmaker> :-)
09:08:54  <V453000> by the way, is it key to have towns build roads for FIRS?
09:09:22  <planetmaker> what do you mean?
09:09:37  <V453000> towns_allowed_to_build_roads or how is the option called
09:10:06  <planetmaker> I see no relation to FIRS. Why?
09:10:23  <V453000> I have no idea :) just asking, afaik it modifies town growth so I dont know what it could do :)
09:10:43  <planetmaker> well, sure it would as towns then cannot grow roads...
09:11:03  <planetmaker> but FIRS doesn't modify towns there - except that it can (and does) change town grow cargos
09:11:29  <V453000> I meant FIRS :) If I recall correctly, towns do not grow, food and/or goods are required, right?
09:11:39  <V453000> yarr
09:11:47  <planetmaker> I don't no :-)
09:11:50  <V453000> anyway, I will turn it off then :)
09:11:52  <planetmaker> *know
09:12:13  <V453000> since it just shuts down any town growing efforts of people :)
09:13:30  <planetmaker> that'd be sad :-)
09:13:46  <V453000> anyway, I assume that it is better to choose arctic trains for the game, right? since there have been some change I see
09:13:58  <V453000> we usually use the tempare since that is just the most fun usually :)
09:14:12  <planetmaker> yeah, feel free to test the climate-chooser parameter
09:14:34  <planetmaker> But please look whether it works before you "set the game into the wild"
09:14:57  <planetmaker> It's not thoroughly tested yet, though of course I believe it works
09:15:20  <planetmaker> also... the scenario is arctic anyway ;-)
09:15:31  <planetmaker> so ... you should get arctic normally
09:17:06  <V453000> well, yea :) I will get arctic this time and will try all other combinations later
09:17:41  <planetmaker> well, default is to use the trains belonging to the respective climate - so no action needed to choose arctic trains
09:17:53  <V453000> I know :)
09:18:17  <planetmaker> :-)
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09:21:02  <V453000> btw the DWE stations are absolutely amazing :) I really like that when Dante123 makes a "cargo-station" set, he makes it compatible with the ISR ... that is just brilliant approach imo :)
09:21:37  <planetmaker> yes, quite :-)
09:22:13  <V453000> also guarantees usage :)
09:22:25  <planetmaker> Actually I'm amazed at the set - and at the results he gets, given that he seems to have only very basic understanding of nfo coding ;-)
09:22:33  <V453000> :)
09:31:23  <V453000> oh holy shit :D why do you use initial city size multiplier 4? :p
09:31:29  <V453000> not like it matters much :)
09:31:59  <planetmaker> no reason... it was so in my config ;-)
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09:32:28  <V453000> :D ook :)
09:32:55  <V453000> it doesnt matter when we start from 1945 :) but if you have 2000 city in 1900, it is kinda boring :)
09:33:06  <V453000> anyway, I changed the date to 1945 to have trains :)
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09:33:18  <planetmaker> :-D
09:33:27  <planetmaker> but there should be trains from 1920 onwards...
09:33:54  <V453000> temperate kirby comes in 1926
09:34:05  <V453000> tropic and temperate wills comes in 1945 :)
09:34:17  <planetmaker> ah :-)
09:35:15  <V453000> ok, seems working :) saved
09:35:47  <planetmaker> interesting might be the maglev (tracks + stations)
09:36:04  <planetmaker> the (default) maglev stations are... well... interesting but have potential for improvement
09:36:18  <planetmaker> I added that via parameter just to see people see it ;-)
09:36:19  <V453000> depends which side of the default you pick :P
09:36:32  <planetmaker> Nah, they're newgrf-replaced
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09:38:22  <V453000> oh, that one :)
09:38:48  <V453000> hm, the rails have no parameter though set though :)
09:38:51  <planetmaker> I'm actually still considering to change opengfx maglev tracks to those tracks (but not stations)
09:38:54  <V453000> -though :)
09:39:01  <planetmaker> oh, then it's the default to replace it.
09:39:08  <V453000> opengfx ravaging some more newgrfs? :P
09:39:14  <planetmaker> I just recalled that I looked at it and made a concious decision ;-)
09:39:59  <V453000> k :)
09:40:02  <planetmaker> possibly :-)
09:40:28  <planetmaker> But I don't consider that bad; the base set has to be the base line and provide as good and nice graphics as one can get ;-)
09:40:38  <planetmaker> it doesn't need to mimic the ttd graphics
09:40:52  <V453000> but yea, the maglev in opengfx is just too dark :(
09:41:09  <V453000> true :) which is good that it doesnt somewhere, for example tramtracks .. :)
09:41:29  <planetmaker> too dark? I think it's pretty similar to the ttd ones...
09:41:35  <planetmaker> and both are ugly IMHO ;-)
09:41:40  <V453000> the ttd ones are almost white
09:41:58  <Stablean> <ali> how end this  map? 2100?
09:42:00  <V453000> I think the ttd ones arent somehow beautiful, but when you have a large cluster of them, I find all others uglier
09:42:09  <V453000> ali: soon
09:42:42  <planetmaker> ali: no absolutely fixed date. Rather when "it's done"
09:42:52  <Stablean> <ali> oki
09:42:55  <V453000> for example the transrapid track set is imo a very nice thing ... the "legs" under rails might be uglier, but still. But when you have a hub of them or such, they are ugly as hell :(
09:43:07  <planetmaker> thus no restart when all are happy. And restart, when all are bored ;-)
09:43:18  <planetmaker> yes, agreed
09:43:26  <V453000> sometimes it is hard to get ALL bored :P
09:43:41  <planetmaker> :-) Then it's good to have dictator powers :-P
09:43:53  <V453000> :D
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09:46:32  <Stablean> <V453000> xDDD oh fuck me in the head
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09:47:06  <Stablean> <V453000> weight multiplier for freight is 5 and they REALLY get the express engines
09:47:40  <Stablean> <V453000> should rot in hell.
09:47:42  <Rubidium> okay, free train wifi at 120km/h is not stable enough to stay in the game ;)
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09:48:00  <V453000> :P
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09:48:21  <V453000> yes but it needs the POWER to gain stability ;)
09:48:24  <planetmaker> haha :-)
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09:49:56  <V453000> I would not be so "outrageously dissapointed" if it was all companies, but when the elite "coop" company on stable uses just silly trains, I turn my head to WTF :D
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11:26:16  <V453000> shall I reset? new FIRS incoming : p
11:26:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Fine by me
11:26:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not playin anyway now atm
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11:28:51  <V453000> !content
11:28:51  <Stablean> V453000: Connection established
11:28:55  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
11:28:55  <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
11:29:00  <V453000> !content
11:29:02  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
11:29:04  <Stablean> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
11:29:04  <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
11:29:09  <V453000> hm, lets see
11:29:11  <V453000> !restart
11:29:11  <Stablean> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
11:30:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
11:30:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.1.0-beta5.
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11:30:24  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server ('
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11:30:30  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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11:33:27  <V453000> !date
11:33:27  <Stablean> V453000: 19 Apr 1945
11:33:28  <V453000> !auto
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11:33:32  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread
11:33:33  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 10 "Welcome DayDreamer"
11:33:33  <Stablean> V453000: ‎[Private] To DayDreamer: Welcome DayDreamer
11:33:33  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 10 "You are playing on \"{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (\""
11:33:33  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 10 "House rules are at"
11:33:33  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 10 "say !help for more information"
11:33:33  <Stablean> V453000: you have 6 more messages
11:33:36  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread
11:33:36  <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '7' (min: 4, max: 64)
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11:34:31  <V453000> have fun :)
11:34:45  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> ty ;)
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12:14:36  <V453000> ? :o
12:14:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> slant sides cost a lot to build on
12:15:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> like !this
12:15:38  <V453000> oh
12:15:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Cant remember if that was always the case
12:15:54  <V453000> no, it never was
12:16:02  <V453000> pm: on purpose? :)
12:16:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why is it now?
12:16:19  <V453000> because planetmaker forgot to lower it :p
12:16:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> on purpose what?
12:16:40  <V453000> if you dont lower it manually, it automatically grows with terraforming costs
12:16:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmmm, not to glad about it
12:16:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
12:17:02  <V453000> yes :) it will make the game more interesting at least
12:17:15  <V453000> for a change
12:17:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only the start, i guess
12:17:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will this be standard practice from now on?
12:17:37  <V453000> no
12:17:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> phew
12:17:44  <V453000> this game is a bit special
12:17:49  <V453000> not my map :p
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12:19:41  <V453000> at least added it to the welcome board
12:20:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that should help
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12:26:33  <Stablean> <ali> hi
12:26:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lo
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12:27:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> watch the building on slopes!
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12:40:33  <Stablean> <nicfer> /resetme
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12:41:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> removing your password and then leaving sould do the trick
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12:42:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see
12:42:21  <Stablean> <nicfer> thanks
12:42:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> np
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12:44:34  <Stablean> <nicfer> lol, everything's so expensive
12:44:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the terraformin is expensive
12:45:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and in this game, building on slopes is too
12:45:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats probably why your money shrinks that fast
12:46:20  <Stablean> <nicfer> starting with pax is profitable?
12:46:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont know, ask ali
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12:46:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im just doing some subsidies
12:46:45  <Stablean> <ali> sory i first paly tis industry
12:47:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ahh, FIRS can be hard
12:55:56  <Stablean> <nicfer> oh, and I also see that building on farmland is much cheaper here
12:56:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that might be, idk
12:56:30  <Stablean> <nicfer> well, not that much
12:56:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but dont try buildinn over water/terraformin in water
12:56:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you wont be able to, but still
12:56:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its very VERY expensive
12:57:48  <Stablean> <nicfer> LOOOL 491 millons
12:57:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> warned ya
13:01:33  <planetmaker> <Stablean> <Troy McClure> slant sides cost a lot to build on <-- what are sland slides?
13:01:39  <planetmaker> you mean ship lifts?
13:01:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> slopes
13:01:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, not ship lifts
13:01:58  <planetmaker> for tracks?
13:02:07  <planetmaker> then I forgot to decrease it
13:02:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, and road probably too
13:02:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yea, v mentioned that
13:02:22  <planetmaker> track building and road building *should* be about normal costs
13:02:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not on slopes
13:02:51  <planetmaker> I guess you can ask V453000 nicely and he might re-upload a map with fixed costs and start over ;-)
13:02:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wanna  come in test it, or believe me on my word?
13:03:07  <planetmaker> I do. But I can't test now nor the next hours
13:03:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nah, he thhought it would make an interesting game now
13:04:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you cant read vs lines?
13:04:32  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> red: so large map and you must start build near me :( :(
13:05:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> planetmaker?
13:08:42  <planetmaker> Hm, sorry, what do you mean? I can't join the game now
13:09:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Ive had communication with V
13:09:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It shhould have told you everything you  asked
13:09:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so you didnt read Vs lines?
13:10:33  <planetmaker> I read the two lines where he highlighted me ;-)
13:10:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
13:10:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
13:10:48  <planetmaker> but not further on. But now you mention it - yes :-)
13:17:56  <V453000> I think they can live with it ;)
13:18:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for the moment yea
13:18:49  <planetmaker> I take your word for it :-)
13:19:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it cost me a company to figure it out, but okay :D
13:19:17  <planetmaker> it's actually nasty. I changed it once. But then had to revert to the previous savegame
13:19:41  <planetmaker> or generated a new one with slightly old newgrf settings IIRC. Whatever
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13:29:57  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
13:30:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
13:30:25  <Stablean> <V453000> alright, want the settins changed now? will take ~5 minutes
13:30:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will it reset the entire server?
13:30:47  <Stablean> <V453000> no
13:30:53  <Stablean> <V453000> jus pause and load after few minutes
13:30:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, do it
13:31:18  <V453000> !pause
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13:39:02  <V453000> ok here we go
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13:39:26  <V453000> !auto
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13:39:46  <Stablean> <V453000> please join companies and set passwords again :)
13:39:48  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#5)
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13:40:20  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
13:40:20  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'ali Transport'  Year Founded: 1948  Money: 6883  Loan: 440000  Value: 1  (T:8, R:3, P:0, S:0) unprotected
13:40:20  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(Orange) Company Name: 'DayDreamer Transport'  Year Founded: 1945  Money: 928294  Loan: 500000  Value: 483031  (T:4, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
13:40:20  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Green) Company Name: 'Troy McClure Company'  Year Founded: 1947  Money: 70000  Loan: 180000  Value: 594131  (T:20, R:38, P:0, S:0) unprotected
13:40:20  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Red) Company Name: 'nicfer Transport'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 107009  Loan: 320000  Value: 148180  (T:9, R:8, P:0, S:0) unprotected
13:40:21  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:5(Pink) Company Name: 'V453000 Transport'  Year Founded: 1953  Money: 99495  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
13:40:34  <planetmaker> !rcon set company_pw 2 daydreamer
13:40:34  <Stablean> planetmaker: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
13:40:35  <Stablean> planetmaker: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
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13:40:42  <planetmaker> !rcon set company_pw "2 daydreamer"
13:40:42  <Stablean> planetmaker: 'company_pw' is an unknown setting.
13:40:45  <planetmaker> hm
13:40:50  <V453000> pm: ? :)
13:40:58  <planetmaker> I thought I give it a try :-)
13:41:05  <V453000> I already did it somehow
13:41:14  <V453000> at least without the "" :p
13:41:28  <planetmaker> !rcon help company_pw
13:41:28  <Stablean> planetmaker: - Change the password of a company. Usage: 'company_pw <company-no> "<password>"
13:41:28  <Stablean> planetmaker: - Use "*" to disable the password.
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13:41:47  <planetmaker> are there unprotected ones?
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13:42:33  <planetmaker> he
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13:55:45  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Hola
13:55:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
13:56:02  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Nice to see the new FITRS in action!
13:56:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> T,where does that stand for?
13:56:22  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> *FIRS
13:56:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
14:00:22  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> @ali: May I join your company? I haven't much time and don't want to spam around companies ;)
14:00:50  <Stablean> <ali> ok but no have money
14:01:06  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> we will earn much soon ;)
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14:02:03  <Stablean> <ali> i now work on. bring woods. and them birg lumber to
14:02:10  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> kk
14:02:50  <Stablean> <ali> lumber bring to luber yard them enginering supplies bring to coal mine
14:04:47  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> where is it produced?
14:05:00  <Stablean> <ali> Rhisga
14:05:28  <Stablean> <ali> wait change my opne ttd. for englis
14:05:40  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> you can do this ingame
14:05:53  <Stablean> <ali> i bedvas forest
14:11:23  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> I am from Germany. Where are you from?
14:12:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> me?
14:17:05  <Stablean> <nicfer> why train length is set to 5?
14:17:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
14:17:28  <V453000> why not
14:17:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wat do you mean?
14:18:27  <Stablean> <nicfer> I mean that trains can't be longer than 5 tiles
14:18:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats odd
14:19:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> advanced settings>trains>max length
14:19:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but why, idk
14:22:54  <planetmaker> default, IIRC?
14:23:01  <V453000> no, default is 7
14:23:08  <planetmaker> true
14:24:07  <V453000> nobody who plays here for more than 2 games uses longer trains than 5 anyway
14:24:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not lately no
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14:27:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi  Chris
14:27:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
14:27:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oooh FIRS
14:28:04  <V453000> new FIRS :p
14:28:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah I see it has dredgers
14:29:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> youre free to join me
14:29:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> for me FIRS works best with raw material transfers
14:29:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so>
14:30:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so you can make sure all secondary and tertiary industries that need them get them
14:30:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will join you to build that sort of network
14:30:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
14:31:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> beware: max trainlength=7
14:31:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 5
14:31:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> max station length=7
14:31:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is why?
14:31:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V?
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14:33:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can start whenever you want
14:34:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> max tunnel and bridge are 64
14:35:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and by the way
14:35:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> should town actions be so expensive?
14:35:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:36:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 93,570 for small adverts?
14:36:28  <planetmaker> doesn't sound expensive
14:36:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that isn't to bad must be UK houses or Base Costs
14:37:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I thought you could get a statue at 140,000 ish someting
14:37:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> think V may havw done it to stop people from just growing towns
14:37:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you cannot even get medium adverts for 140k
14:37:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps
14:37:57  <planetmaker> this time it's me who did that ;-)
14:38:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> towns grow very slowly in UK houses anyway
14:38:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bigest towns are only realy 40k
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14:43:43  <Stablean> <nicfer> well, I've got to leave
14:43:46  <Stablean> <nicfer> cya
14:43:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k bye
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14:44:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is odd
14:44:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when I change my colour
14:45:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the minimap doesnt change colour
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16:27:31  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
16:27:37  <Stablean> <ali> hoj
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17:13:36  <Stablean> <ali> ?me?
17:13:46  <Stablean> <ali> 26
17:13:53  <Stablean> <ali> poc?
17:14:23  <Stablean> <ali> ty vic?
17:15:10  <Stablean> <ali> no pecka fabryka zmizla :D
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17:50:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why are the industries decreasing in production, even if i add supplies?
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18:07:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Im getting an offer for a rail vehicle:  <invalid vehicle model>
18:07:43  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has requested an admin
18:08:08  <planetmaker> meh. V453000 didn't use reset_engines, I guess
18:08:16  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to h0BbEs
18:08:18  <V453000> I did
18:08:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no big problem?
18:08:31  <planetmaker> well, it sucks ;-)
18:08:52  <planetmaker> and clearly shows again why it was a good idea to forbid newgrf-messing on running games ;-)
18:09:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, i have the idea that my industries keep declining, even though i deliver the correct supplies
18:10:12  <V453000> yes :) replacing trains isnt really the best thing :)
18:10:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its not that
18:10:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i started a lot of time ago
18:10:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> went to dinner
18:10:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and my industries are less now, then when i started
18:11:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even when iadded supplies
18:12:16  <Ammler> planetmaker: reset_engines is not needed on newgrf changes
18:12:43  <Ammler> as that is done by the gui already, when you apply
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18:32:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
18:32:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
18:33:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh coop, argh i want to join but ive got other stuff to do :/
18:33:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> np, Firs anyway
18:34:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats even better :P
18:34:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not goingso well too
18:34:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> my industries shrinking, and i dont know why
18:35:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
18:35:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well ifthey are all shrinking for no reason then it could be a bug, thats onyl if its extreme though
18:36:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, some of the others are growing
18:36:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so im trying something new: shorter supplies trains
18:36:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> well i guess they are just shrinking then
18:36:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> oh
18:37:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but im not sure if it helps
18:37:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I would of thought more at a time would be better as well as being delivered regularly
18:37:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, my trains were tl 5 at first
18:38:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but im very sure that didnt help
18:38:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> went to dinner and saw they had shrunk
18:38:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so now im trying this
18:38:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ok
18:39:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well im gonna go now might come back to play later
18:39:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bye
18:39:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
18:39:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
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20:10:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
20:11:07  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> removing your stealing roads :)
20:11:23  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> near my machine shop
20:11:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> roads>
20:12:06  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> done :)
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20:12:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bought that from anoter comp
20:12:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> np
20:12:22  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> ah  :)
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20:46:01  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> orange stop stealing
20:46:16  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> or admin will delete your company
20:47:06  <V453000> fuck yes.
20:47:33  <Stablean> <sturmi> oh an annoying orange :p
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20:48:14  <Stablean> <V453000> LOL changed colour
20:48:19  <Stablean> <sturmi> :D
20:48:21  <Stablean> <V453000> A.H. ?
20:48:39  <Stablean> <A. H.> yes?
20:48:53  <Stablean> <V453000> why do you steal supplies from dark blue
20:49:07  <Stablean> <A. H.> it was not being transported
20:49:13  <Stablean> <A. H.> and I need it for my falrms
20:49:19  <Stablean> <V453000> produce your own
20:50:22  <Stablean> <V453000> could you please stop that?
20:51:58  <Stablean> <V453000> (I refuse to waste time with people disrupting friendly gameplay so you better reconsider quickly)
20:53:16  <Stablean> <V453000> A.H. ?
20:53:48  <Stablean> <V453000> ok
20:54:27  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> ty V
20:54:47  <Stablean> <V453000> np..
20:55:11  <Stablean> *** A. H. has started a new company (#5)
20:55:43  <Stablean> <V453000> revenge?
20:55:45  <Stablean> <V453000> not really
20:55:59  <Stablean> *** A. H. has started a new company (#5)
20:56:01  <Stablean> <sturmi> i'll get me some popcorn
20:56:03  <Stablean> <V453000> destroying others vehicles is especially nice
20:56:51  <Stablean> <V453000> sturmi: get me some too pls
20:57:10  <Stablean> <sturmi> np
20:57:50  <Stablean> <V453000> A.H. care to talk or?
20:57:56  <Stablean> <V453000> WOW
20:57:58  <Stablean> <V453000> lol xD
20:58:00  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#6)
20:58:06  <Stablean> <V453000> guys look !here
20:58:08  <Stablean> <V453000> pro skills
20:58:10  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> lol
20:58:28  <Stablean> <sturmi> watafak
20:58:34  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> another retard ..
20:58:36  <Stablean> <V453000> nice eh
20:58:52  <Stablean> <sturmi> property of...
20:58:55  <Stablean> <sturmi> ah
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20:59:05  <Stablean> <V453000> continue in peace :)
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21:03:12  <Stablean> <V453000> how the f did he get back
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21:17:14  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> gn
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22:49:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ali, are you still there?
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23:37:45  <Stablean> <ali> gb
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