Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 25th March 2011:
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00:22:30  <SmatZ> ok, it IS realistic
00:22:53  <SmatZ> the friction is higher in tunnels because of the air you have to push
00:22:59  <SmatZ> but I wonder if it's intended :)
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00:24:58  <SmatZ> 		/* Air drag is higher in tunnels due to the limited cross-section. */
00:24:59  <SmatZ> 		return (this->track == TRACK_BIT_WORMHOLE && this->vehstatus & VS_HIDDEN) ? 28 : 14;
00:25:04  <SmatZ> ok, it is intended
00:25:26  <SmatZ> move along, nothing to see here...
00:27:19  <Mazur> We were sailing along....
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00:59:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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01:08:30  <Mazur> Hi, Troy.
01:08:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi mazur
01:08:41  <Mazur> Howś Helen?
01:08:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> helen?
01:08:52  <Mazur> Oh, I forgot, she went back with Menelaos.
01:09:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, proved to be a nice marriage
01:09:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> whatever happened to his brother
01:09:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Agamem...whatchama call it
01:10:01  <Mazur> With a brief 10 year affair with a foreign pretty-boy prince.
01:10:15  <Mazur> Agamemnoon?
01:10:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, small boys can get big in that time
01:10:33  <Mazur> He went back home, too, I think, back to his own kingdom.
01:10:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wasnt he killed by his wife or something
01:10:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dreadfull fate
01:11:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not good dinner conversation...
01:11:21  <Mazur> KLytaemnestra?  Yes, I think she did.  Plenty of tnem did.
01:11:46  <Mazur> Or they slept with their sons and whatnot.
01:11:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, they say his father and grandfather were cursed too
01:12:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> something to do with disturbing the minds of people in high places :D
01:13:23  <Mazur> Yes, them bunch nof hillbillies in the Appalachians.  Or Olympians, what have you.
01:13:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bored much,Mazur?
01:14:18  <Mazur> Nah, more furstrated, trying to get mplayer to install on my lappie
01:14:29  <Mazur> But the dependencies are a mess.
01:14:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so you start a conversation about the antiquities
01:15:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps a nice pickup line?
01:16:11  <Mazur> Well, antique first names will do that for me.
01:16:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Troy McClure, you dont remember me?
01:16:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you might remember me from such films as
01:16:50  <Mazur> Yes, I do.
01:17:12  <Mazur> And so does Bart.
01:17:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, but now i understand the helen pun
01:18:54  <Mazur> :-)
01:18:54  * Mazur is a punter
01:20:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why mplayer?
01:21:32  <Mazur> Because itś been ht most consistent player I can use for any video format I find, the most demuxers.
01:22:27  <Mazur> And vlc and totem and xine all frequently refuse to play some videos for missing plugins, while mplayer has already found them.
01:22:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hm, i see
01:22:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> making progress?
01:23:50  <Mazur> Some, in an rpmfusion ftp site now, to download a good set of packages to work together.
01:26:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Mazur? is it possible to put a 20platform station on a 10x10 field, with TL3?
01:26:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with RoRo
01:26:56  <Mazur> Not with the full approach, I think.
01:27:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I can get up to 18 platforms, so i was wondering if more was even feasible
01:27:32  <Mazur> Hm, RoRo you have to tunnel the exits underneath the other platforms.
01:27:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, for some
01:27:52  <Mazur> >Can you sbhow me what youǘe got?
01:28:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how to show?
01:28:31  <Mazur> Take screenshot and put it on the web.
01:28:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have no idea where or how to
01:28:57  <Mazur> Plenty of free dump sites around.
01:29:22  <Mazur> Hm, let me see, which one did I use...
01:31:31  <Mazur> TinyPi9c, photobucket or Imageshack should do.
01:31:35  <Mazur> -9
01:33:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this should be it:
01:33:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure>
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01:34:21  <TroyMcClure> Mazur?
01:34:22  <TroyMcClure>
01:37:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps useful: i might use it for unloading
01:37:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with unloading at 13% intervals
01:37:36  <Mazur> That back row seems to have room on either side for one more.
01:37:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> remember: 10x10 field
01:37:59  <Mazur> But then you get 12 wide...
01:38:44  <Mazur> Tunnel the two entrances for the back lot.
01:39:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you do that
01:39:14  <Mazur> But that leaves not enough room for entry back lot/exit front lot.
01:39:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> exactly
01:40:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Do you see anyway of making it 18+ platforms, without a terminus in it?
01:40:18  <Mazur> Thne no, I have no idea.
01:40:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
01:40:29  <Mazur> 18 is a bloody miracle as it is.
01:40:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thanks for thinking
01:40:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is it one for the books?
01:41:54  <Mazur> Oh, I don think about that kind of thing, plenty of other folk more experienced are doing that already.
01:42:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I mean: is it one for on the wiki, will other coopers want to know about this
01:42:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or can they figure it out for theirselves good enough
01:43:28  <Mazur> And I mean: you should ask them, rather than me.
01:43:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D
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13:17:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fail
13:17:57  <Stablean> <Desrik> what?
13:18:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> depot the ship
13:18:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you just bought a big cash-hemorage
13:18:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a ship
13:18:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're losing money by the trainloads
13:18:51  <Stablean> <Desrik> lol didnt realize running costs were so high
13:19:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> always know what you buy
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13:21:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, hi Chris
13:22:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Troy McClure
13:22:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Desrik was close to sinking himself :D
13:22:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know
13:22:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I tried to do the good thing and warn him...
13:24:11  <Stablean> <Desrik> yes and thanks :)
13:24:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice work Troy McClure
13:24:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> want any help?
13:25:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
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13:25:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I see you double one half of the south rail
13:25:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but Im not sure how to connect new rails to the big drop station
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13:32:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> done,Chris?
13:32:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> on MSH 03
13:32:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
13:33:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cause I think the signalling on the drop station could be better
13:38:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is a slow in the factory area
13:38:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure how it fix it
13:38:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what do you mean "a slow'
13:39:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can you sign it?
13:39:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, there
13:39:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because of CL2?
13:39:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
13:42:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that should fix it
13:48:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> exactly
13:53:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have extened alot of priors on the ML
13:54:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, i see
13:54:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im not sure about all of them
13:54:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but ill take your word for it
13:54:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are all on the busy lines
13:54:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if we don't stop those lines there will me spaces for trains to entre
13:55:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, looking at the operating graph, our efforts really helped
13:55:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but if we have to do more, it's going to be very tedious
13:56:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for example: we could expand the fac pickup
13:56:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but we need 2 incoming and out lines for that
13:56:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'm not really in the mood for that...
13:58:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> factory pickup isn't that bad
13:58:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, but it if we want to carry more goods
13:58:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at 38% now
13:58:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 48%
13:58:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we will need to expand and do all that
13:59:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> fac pickup
13:59:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 52% now
13:59:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Prardinghead Cross Heights?
13:59:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i'm looking at % from factory transported
13:59:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which is 48% now
13:59:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am looking at the station
14:00:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont like the wagons from this set
14:00:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> very slow loading times
14:00:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I don't like this set
14:00:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> very big wagons
14:00:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 120 crates of good in 1 wagon
14:00:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why is big a problem?
14:01:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah
14:01:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> UKRS take 3 wagons to do that
14:02:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I d rather have fast loading over more cargo capacity
14:06:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> PBS abuse :D
14:06:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
14:07:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> normally, im not that much of a pbs basher
14:07:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but this is the part, where I think pbs starts to interfere
14:07:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> PBS saves space
14:07:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true
14:10:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> those tunnels suck
14:10:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which?
14:10:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check train 26 for ToS
14:10:36  <Mazur> Hi, McClure, rebuilt yourself yet?  Or still mourning over Hectors death?
14:10:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D
14:10:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Mazur :s
14:11:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who is Hector?
14:11:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> know your Classics, Chris
14:11:25  <Mazur> The victim of Achilles.
14:11:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Helen, the Battle of Troy
14:11:33  <Mazur> The brother RIP of Paris.
14:11:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this is all greek to me
14:11:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what's wrong with #26?
14:11:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> XD
14:12:02  <Mazur> :-)
14:12:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the way openttd tunnels work
14:12:27  <Mazur> Hi, Chris, what are you selling or advertising for?
14:12:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aargh
14:12:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's lame
14:12:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> me nothing
14:12:58  <Mazur> Well, you're a booth, not?
14:13:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh I see now
14:13:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but #26 doesnt meet a tunnel
14:13:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes ToS's train 26 does
14:13:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Mazur you as such a joker today?
14:13:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> someone drunk or high?
14:14:00  <Mazur> Perfectly sober.
14:14:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Trains of Sodor's train 26?
14:14:12  <Mazur> But in a good mood./
14:14:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:14:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he has 2 trains?
14:14:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then you are drunk and high on life :D
14:14:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh 1 second its townlink
14:14:45  <Mazur> Today a new router and a wireless USB stick should come.
14:14:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bad buiding just assumed it was ToS :D
14:15:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wire routers == yucky
14:15:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> townlink did a big deal of Terraforming
14:15:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so not all bad building is ToS
14:15:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yeah lots of nasty TF
14:15:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or Camerons
14:16:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it slows down in a tunnel?
14:16:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:16:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> its in openttd code
14:16:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> huh, why?
14:16:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and is meant to happen
14:16:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> air flow in a tunnel
14:16:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> air resistance is greater in tunnels
14:16:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's new to me
14:16:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only effects under powered overly fast trains
14:17:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it slows down more then on a bridge
14:17:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nice addition, but still a little bit odd
14:18:41  <Stablean> <Desrik> is ES64U the fastest train that haul non PAX?
14:18:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so that's why he's tfing that much
14:18:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I believe so Desrik
14:19:03  <Stablean> <Desrik> thought so
14:19:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but speed isnt everything you know
14:19:11  <Stablean> <Desrik> i know
14:19:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is 230km/h to slow?
14:19:30  <Stablean> <iklucas> haay
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14:19:35  <Stablean> <Desrik> that why i run two ES64Us on TL10
14:19:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi iklucas
14:19:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> ah nice u guys dubbelized the other way on SLH 06 too
14:20:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's a smart thing to do
14:20:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Desrik you need more than 2 on TL10 IMO
14:20:07  <Stablean> <iklucas> i had to go when i finnished it 1 way
14:20:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 3 for TL10
14:20:09  <Stablean> <Desrik> lol i use mph so 143mph....not really
14:20:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so it was you
14:20:17  <Stablean> <Desrik> why they doing fine
14:20:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep and u guys made the steelmill allot better:P
14:20:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice I hate these km/h
14:20:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yep
14:20:39  <Stablean> <iklucas> was it a fail?
14:20:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the steel mill?
14:20:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> my dubbelization?:P
14:20:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the drop was undercapacity
14:20:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> ur saying, so it was you
14:21:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it was me what?
14:21:16  <Stablean> <iklucas> making it double
14:21:25  <Stablean> <iklucas> i understood it as, it was done bad:P
14:21:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, and Chris
14:21:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why should it be bad?
14:21:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> idk:P
14:22:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and Desrik you have lots of slow turns
14:22:04  <Stablean> <iklucas> didnt have much time to check it:P
14:22:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> its such a fail that trains slow down in tunnels:P
14:22:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It didnt seem bad
14:22:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> apparently, only underpowered trains
14:23:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> the next needed upgrade is the
14:23:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> slh01-
14:23:19  <Stablean> <Desrik> i know im still stuck at ~M right now and trying not to TF
14:23:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> nnh01 LLLRRR
14:23:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> bbh*
14:23:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont buy the ship company
14:23:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> chips company
14:24:01  <Stablean> <Desrik> haha! thank you!
14:24:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you triple SLH01-BBH01, you should triple it all the way to MSH01
14:24:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep, but i got no time atm;)
14:25:07  <Stablean> <iklucas> g2g to amsterdam in 6 minutes:P
14:25:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> let the countdown start^^
14:25:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we can almost afford a ship
14:25:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> ships suck, planes pown
14:25:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> buy and maintain?
14:25:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> lets but a zeppelin?
14:25:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> buy*
14:26:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think we could make a profit with the JTech
14:26:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> can we?:O
14:27:00  <Stablean> <iklucas> lets try?:P
14:27:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> profit with a plane that costs 23 M/year?
14:27:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Desrik
14:27:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> graningvile-
14:27:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> tedwood?
14:27:52  <Stablean> <Desrik> tyes?
14:27:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you would look at !dragrace, I can show you what TL you might use
14:27:57  <Stablean> <Desrik> yes?
14:28:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2 engines or 3
14:28:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I can even make 4 engines lateron
14:28:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> lets go
14:28:17  <Stablean> <Desrik> k im watching
14:28:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check planes 1
14:28:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> :P
14:29:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it takes a lot of space (and time) to get up to top speed
14:29:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> ways too small city?
14:29:09  <Stablean> <iklucas> use tedwood:D
14:29:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> tedwood?
14:29:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 4 engines
14:29:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> tendwo*
14:30:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> tendwood dammit
14:30:08  <Stablean> <iklucas> but i g2g
14:30:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> bb:D
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14:30:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb ik
14:30:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stuttering issues
14:30:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
14:30:28  <Stablean> <Desrik> but they both hit top speed after about one full TL
14:30:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's your choice, of course
14:31:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and these are the heaviest coaches (50 t)
14:31:23  <Stablean> <Desrik> i see your point though it really makes no difference until i fix all the short CLs
14:31:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, true
14:31:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but TL10 is really REALLY long
14:32:25  <Stablean> <Desrik> yeah i usually play 3 or 5
14:35:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok making a profit on that plane on that route is impossible :D
14:38:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> this server needs a TL1 game again
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14:47:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Vinnie
14:48:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey troy
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14:48:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> looks nice
14:48:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, sure does
14:51:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> why is md solo?
14:51:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont know
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14:52:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think he knows the password, but im not sure
14:52:26  <Stablean> <Desrik> will !THIS! cause speed reduction?
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14:52:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when i saw him, he didnt ask for it too
14:52:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no no speed reduction
14:52:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
14:53:02  <Stablean> <Desrik> ok thank you
14:53:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> unles your train is longer than 7 tiles
14:53:43  <Stablean> <Desrik> doesnt the s-bend rule not apply to certain tiles? diagonal IIRC
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14:54:01  <Stablean> <Desrik> my trains are 10TL
14:54:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it does but with TL7 you reach the next corner a bit left
14:54:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> makes it a 90 degree turn
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14:54:59  <Stablean> <Desrik> lol i been saying TL10....its actuall 10 units so TL5
14:55:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> @@(clcalc erail 12)
14:55:11  <Webster> Stablean: A rail Curve Length of 12 (capped at 13 half tiles) gives a speed of 232km/h or 145mph
14:55:15  <Stablean> <Hippidy> the train at sudham heights it tl6
14:55:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its fine
14:55:36  <Stablean> <Desrik> k
14:55:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no its 11 1 sec
14:56:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> @@(clcalc erail 5)
14:56:16  <Webster> Stablean: A rail Curve Length of 5 (9 half tiles) gives a speed of 216km/h or 135mph
14:56:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ahhh
14:56:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> @@(clcalc erail 6)
14:56:32  <Webster> Stablean: A rail Curve Length of 6 (11 half tiles) gives a speed of 228km/h or 142mph
14:56:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it slows down from 230 kmph to 228
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14:57:04  <Stablean> <Desrik> yeah thats no big deal. thanks
14:57:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only interferes with very much traffic on line
14:57:35  <Stablean> <Desrik> yeah line is only 1 train as of right now
14:57:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont bother then
14:58:44  <Stablean> <Hippidy> there's a slow down south of wadingworth mines
14:59:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> CL2?
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14:59:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i dont thin that matters much with underpowered trains going uphill
14:59:38  <Stablean> <Hippidy> yer cl, not the hill
15:00:05  <Stablean> <Hippidy> oh, west not south
15:01:02  <Mazur> Ay, Finn.
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15:01:57  <Mazur> Yeah, ran out of ready Vin-somethings.
15:01:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Player, change your name
15:02:21  <Mazur> _please
15:02:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is the PS active?
15:02:28  <Mazur> +please
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15:03:18  <Mazur> Yes, in Coop.
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15:03:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> brb on the better pc
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15:04:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Player, change your name
15:04:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> type !name <newname>
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15:05:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> to change your name
15:05:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> type: !name <newname>
15:05:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then you can play
15:05:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what do you need help with?
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15:26:06  <Stablean> <Desrik> is there anyway to influence primary cargo production?
15:26:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
15:26:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good service
15:26:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so lots of trains
15:26:37  <Stablean> <Desrik> define good service
15:26:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the entry speed of the vehicle also  matters
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15:27:03  <Stablean> <Desrik> speed?
15:27:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good service: make sure there is as little cargo waiting as possible
15:27:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait, ill search the ottd wiki
15:27:35  <Stablean> <Desrik> the industrys arent even producing enough for more than one train
15:28:12  <Mazur> Then good service should be automatic.
15:28:52  <Stablean> <Desrik> idk gonna add another train. maybe with an extra train waiting for cargo it will spit out a little extra to cope
15:29:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure>
15:29:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> getting the % of cargo transported above 80% should give a boost to growth
15:30:11  <Stablean> <Desrik> at 81% now
15:30:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and if you have it near a town
15:30:48  <Stablean> <Desrik> yeah no town...
15:30:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could try placing a statue/advertising
15:31:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it also helps for coal mines if they are near a town
15:35:09  <Stablean> <Desrik> too bad ships are so expensive to run....those oil riigs in the NW would make a killing in a normal game
15:38:10  <Mazur> Yes, in the normal world they are far cheaper to use than any other mode of transport, their drawback is there the lack of speed.
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15:38:35  <Stablean> <Desrik> lol said normal game not wold but yeah
15:39:07  <Stablean> <Desrik> can someone explain station walking? how far can you get away from the actuall station with it?
15:39:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> station spread is set to 10
15:39:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so from one end of the station, to another (walked) end
15:39:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can be max 10
15:40:37  <Stablean> <Desrik> so basically station walking is for what the spread and non-adjacent station settings are for?
15:40:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
15:40:50  <Stablean> <Desrik> i mean they are the same
15:40:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but non adjacent can be used for feeders too
15:41:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> spread is not equal to adjacent
15:41:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check out our factory drop
15:41:26  <Stablean> <Desrik> but i still cant get more than 10 tiles away from a station in any way?
15:41:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Prardinghead Cross woods
15:41:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all platforms must be in a 10x10 tile
15:41:59  <Stablean> <Desrik> k
15:42:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> now check out Mintbourne Annexe
15:42:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> <this is walked
15:42:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it also has to be in a 10x10 square of the station you're walking it from
15:43:24  <Stablean> <Desrik> now the catchment area, does having more of it over an industry make a difference?
15:43:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
15:43:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> catch is catch
15:43:49  <Stablean> <Desrik> but in towns it does right?
15:44:10  <Stablean> <Desrik> each building is treated as an industry basically
15:44:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> every house, building or whatever is a supplier and receiver in itself
15:44:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so every house catched extra makes a difference
15:44:40  <Stablean> <Desrik> ok got ya
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17:04:52  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> oh dear
17:05:41  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> wtf, cargo rating is dropping rather fast lol
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17:09:29  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> this train set REALLY sucks xD
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17:13:50  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
17:13:53  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi
17:14:19  <Stablean> <V453000> I suppose you have had enough of this game already ;)
17:14:26  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> yes, and this terrible trainset xD
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17:15:18  <V453000> !restart
17:15:18  <Stablean> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
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17:15:24  <Stablean> <V453000> back in a minute
17:15:41  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> kk :)
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17:16:02  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.1.0-RC3.
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17:16:38  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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17:17:42  <V453000> !auto
17:17:42  <V453000> have fun :)
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17:17:58  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> ty :)
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17:28:55  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi
17:28:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
17:29:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice game i will be back to play after dinner
17:30:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
17:30:00  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> kk :)
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17:30:04  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> cya
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17:30:35  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi
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17:38:36  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> gah, have no money xD
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18:31:51  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> oh cow xD
18:32:11  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> unelectrified track, fml
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18:36:36  <Stablean> <Desrik> hey all
18:36:39  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> h
18:36:41  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi*
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18:38:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> hay
18:39:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
18:39:06  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi
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18:39:36  <Stablean> <iklucas> troy, starting a coop?
18:39:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
18:39:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> :(
18:39:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> simple small scale pax
18:40:01  <Stablean> <iklucas> may i help u?:D
18:40:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure
18:40:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try the last coop pw
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18:40:29  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> ffs, I can't find where they problem with Wronfingway CM3 is -.-
18:40:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> np
18:40:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> i'll look for it
18:40:48  <Chris_Booth> new game
18:40:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep
18:41:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> what is ur prob with it?
18:41:38  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> none of the trains can get to it for some reason
18:41:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when a train wants to get to it
18:41:46  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> and I can't find any signal issues anywhere
18:41:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> try deleting that 90 degrees corner maybe?
18:42:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> delete !this piece of rail
18:42:04  <Stablean> <iklucas> oh no i found it
18:42:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and force it on the other trac
18:42:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> check !upgrade
18:42:14  <Stablean> <iklucas> fail:P
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18:42:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, yeah, elec wire
18:42:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> check !upgrade
18:42:39  <Stablean> <iklucas> ^^
18:42:39  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> AH! xD
18:42:45  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> thanks xD
18:42:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fail
18:43:14  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> yeah, that's two parts of the track I missed electrification on somehow
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18:47:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Desrik, is that really necessary?
18:47:57  <Stablean> <Desrik> no but i might expand in a few years
18:48:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with what, you're doing coal now?
18:49:00  <Stablean> <Desrik> yes
18:54:44  <Stablean> <iklucas> TOS, why those 90 degrees corners?:P
18:57:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> voorlopig niet
18:58:03  <Vinnie_nl> dutchies :)
18:58:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorry, was meant in-team
18:58:47  <Stablean> <iklucas> DUTCHPOWER
19:00:14  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> so how many of us are there then?
19:00:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> dutch too?:D
19:00:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> is for u guys unreachable too?
19:01:16  <Vinnie_nl> Twitter is dead :)
19:01:27  <Stablean> <Desrik> lol
19:01:33  <Stablean> <iklucas> ye, it seems so:S
19:01:34  <Vinnie_nl> BUZA closed it down Riots in dutchies
19:01:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> no but serious vinnie, it doesnt work there either?
19:02:05  <Vinnie_nl> no im in zoetermeer and its dead
19:02:18  <Stablean> <iklucas> crap
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19:02:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> i was planning to go out tonight with some gurls, but now i cant-.-
19:02:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> now i cant make the apointment:(
19:03:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no phone number?
19:03:08  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> yeah, im dutch too, though i live in scotland
19:03:16  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> and twitter isnt working for me either
19:03:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> over capacity?
19:03:40  <Vinnie_nl> ddos?
19:03:46  <Stablean> <Desrik> states there are server issues. its down stateside too
19:03:47  <Webster> Title: Is Twitter down? Check status and report outages at downrightnow (at
19:04:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> lol, lets hope all the chinees people surfive this ddos, or whatever it is:P and there wont be massive suicides:P
19:05:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> downrightnow says that facebook is down too? but it isnt
19:06:27  <Stablean> <Desrik> facebook is always down for someone
19:07:01  <Stablean> <iklucas> :P
19:10:06  <Stablean> <iklucas> im off;)
19:10:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> bb
19:10:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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19:24:52  <Chris_Booth> anyone want to join me in PS?
19:25:15  <Vinnie_nl> me
19:26:00  <Chris_Booth> then I am your bitch Vinnie_nl
19:26:44  <Vinnie_nl> this is gonna be a freaky friday night :P
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19:53:36  <Stablean> <Desrik> how do the automatic orders work?
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20:10:51  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Vinnie_nl
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21:24:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> hay
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21:53:30  <Stablean> <Startouf> hi
21:53:37  <Stablean> <Startouf> anyone here ?
21:53:55  <Stablean> <Startouf> ah i see game is paused
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