Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 12th April 2011:
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01:23:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> Looks like I'm the only one playing this round anymore
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06:28:56  <Stablean> <Khaosfire> hi
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06:35:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> hay
06:37:06  <Stablean> <iklucas> eeehm since when did vinnie company got renamed to kryszttof transport???
06:37:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> i bet the server got restarted?
06:38:00  <Stablean> *** iklucas has requested an admin
06:39:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> hmm no admin around
06:39:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> but company 3 was vinnie transport, but its now renamed, but he forgot to change company owner name, and he changed the pass
06:40:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> did the server got restarted? when krysztof might have stolen the company me and vinnie were in?
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06:42:33  <Vinnie_nl> !players
06:42:36  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client 214 (Purple) is Core, in company 1 (propliner Transport)
06:42:36  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client 225 (Blue) is Sylf, in company 2 (Sylf Textile)
06:42:53  <Vinnie_nl> anyone not afk?
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10:25:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is a game without newgrfs
10:25:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is that meant to be?
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10:26:49  <Vinnie_nl> me is awake
10:26:54  <Vinnie_nl> !date
10:26:55  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 15 May 1945
10:27:03  <Vinnie_nl> are breakdowns on?
10:27:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill check
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10:28:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> server reloaded back to defaults
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10:28:13  <Stablean> <Player #1> hi
10:28:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have difficulty finding it
10:28:18  <Stablean> <Player #1> can I join your company?
10:28:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wanna load autosave or create new map?
10:28:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not mine :D
10:28:28  <Stablean> *** Player #1 has changed his/her name to Dennis
10:28:30  <Stablean> <Dennis> oke.............
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10:28:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> new map with newgrfs?
10:28:39  <Stablean> <Dennis> is it possible to join you guys?
10:28:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i sec dennis server is broken
10:28:53  <Stablean> <Dennis> oke
10:28:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> with newgrf's
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10:29:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> I got 15 min i can make a map fast
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10:30:30  <Stablean> <Dennis> driving on the lefet or on the right?
10:30:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont care, well start over soon
10:30:55  <Stablean> <Dennis> ohh oke
10:31:01  <Stablean> <Dennis> will join you guys after my lunch
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10:34:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Obsydian, we`ll start over soon
10:34:13  <Stablean> <Obsydian[PL]> ?
10:34:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ??
10:34:33  <Stablean> <Dennis> restart lahhhhhhh
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10:37:07  <Stablean> <Dennis> restart?
10:37:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> waiting for Vinnie to do it
10:37:31  <Stablean> <Dennis> wake up Vinnnie......!
10:37:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he`s not here
10:37:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he`s making the new map
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10:39:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> breakdowns are on...:S
10:39:47  <Stablean> <Dennis> oke.... will be patient
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10:42:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wait for it
10:43:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
10:43:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.1.0.
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10:43:26  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
10:43:26  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server ('
10:43:26  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.1.0 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read"
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10:43:33  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
10:43:34  <Vinnie_nl> !date
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10:43:58  <Vinnie_nl> !load 1
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10:44:06  <Vinnie_nl> !rcon load 1
10:44:06  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: 1: Not a savegame.
10:44:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just one last load Troy
10:44:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
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10:46:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> dine
10:46:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> done
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10:47:29  <Vinnie_nl> school for me cya later
10:47:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Vinnie
10:47:40  <Vinnie_nl> yes
10:47:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> password to #2?
10:47:55  <Vinnie_nl> make new one
10:47:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it says its your company
10:48:01  <Vinnie_nl> i join you this afternoon
10:48:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
10:48:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
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12:28:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> pretty flat map
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12:30:52  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#3)
12:35:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, blasted new oil well! >_<
12:35:35  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> xD
12:39:42  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> triple Atlantics... lol
12:40:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> ._.
12:40:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> stupid ass long train?
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12:46:13  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> why are you using Consolidations? lol
12:46:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> me?
12:46:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> more power
12:46:27  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> yeah
12:46:30  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> but you're dual-heading
12:46:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, more power
12:46:48  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> a single Atlantic can cope with trains of that load xD
12:47:02  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> and a dual Atlantic would munch them, and Atlantics are weak xD
12:47:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> but it gives better acceleration
12:47:10  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> and only 50 mph top speed
12:47:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't care so much about top speed
12:47:34  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> :L top speed = profit ;)
12:47:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> only to a certain point
12:48:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'll be swimming in money eventually anyway
12:48:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> if I'm after money, I'd be using 7-long trains too
12:48:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> and coal too
12:48:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> we're plaing very different game, man
12:48:59  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> xD
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12:49:34  <V453000> :p
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13:05:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> I are off to work now - see ya all
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14:15:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hry
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14:15:29  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi
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14:18:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> laters
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14:22:44  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> lol, even triple headed my Atlantics suck going up hill even when empty xD
14:23:10  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> then again, it is hauling a 7tl train
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14:47:16  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> note to self: remember to check fitment of trains before setting them loose
14:47:26  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> xD
14:47:38  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> I'm annoyed, if a train has 3 Pacifics on it seems to want more than one caboose
14:47:41  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> a goods train aint never gonna pick up wheat
14:47:47  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> meaning I'm stuck with atlantics
14:47:49  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> odd
14:47:55  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> very
14:48:42  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> unless its because the Pacific is fractionally longer and it's trying to lose the caboose to fit
14:49:34  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> what about using engines big enough that you only need 2?
14:55:01  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> my single-mogul on a tl5 train only goes just below 40 with  a 4-tile climb (max speed 60)
14:55:07  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> xD oh dear
14:55:23  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> moguls suck, use Mikados if you want a 60 mph train
14:55:55  <Stablean> <T. Werkhoven> might do
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16:08:40  <V453000> :O
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16:19:41  <Vinnie_nl>  hey V
16:22:23  <V453000> hi hi
16:22:45  <Vinnie_nl> I upload a new map it crahed today
16:23:00  <Vinnie_nl> uploaded
16:23:42  <V453000> ok ... I think there is one stored from me in the uploads folder I think ..
16:24:02  <V453000> Temp52 probably
16:25:02  <V453000> I will start uploading stuff to blog again so you could check ... the only way for you to check now is to load  the map, which is a bit ... insufficient :)
16:25:34  <Vinnie_nl> :)
16:25:52  <Vinnie_nl> but i think i found a foler online for stable
16:25:59  <Vinnie_nl> but i can't remeber link
16:26:29  <V453000> hm, I guess that works :) I just do not remember it either ... where you can get the folder from blog easily
16:27:13  <V453000> you just open any blog article, open an image and substitute the image name with ... "savegamename.sav" and since you know the save name from the ls, it works :)
16:27:33  <V453000> since it is all in one folder there /V453000
16:38:32  <Vinnie_nl> no permission for me to access folder :(
16:39:10  <planetmaker> where?
16:39:34  <V453000> you do not need the folder, do you
16:40:12  <V453000> for example this ... just replace the "ABR09_intro.png" with for example StableTemp52.sav and it should work I guess
16:40:26  <Vinnie_nl> well if i follow your instructions V I end up with this link
16:40:28  <Vinnie_nl>
16:40:38  <V453000> yes because the file is not there
16:40:41  <Vinnie_nl> I know this cant be correct
16:41:04  <V453000> try for example StableTemp30
16:42:10  <V453000> like this
16:42:29  <V453000> don't tell me that doesn't work for you :)
16:42:42  <Vinnie_nl> that worked
16:42:55  <Vinnie_nl> and for what is this used?
16:44:16  <V453000> no idea :) never used that
16:47:18  <planetmaker> that still exists from the time when the stable server was running on the same machine. It's pointless now
16:47:47  <V453000> oh :)
16:48:00  <Vinnie_nl> ty pm
16:48:06  <V453000> so this :)
16:49:11  <Vinnie_nl> ^^ Hero
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17:29:51  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hello
17:30:30  <V453000> ::hi
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18:00:48  <Stablean> <Ediz> hi all
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18:04:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> llo
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18:11:26  <Stablean> <Ediz> hi all
18:11:28  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
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18:35:50  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
18:35:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
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18:43:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
18:43:22  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
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18:46:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey MrD2DG
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19:25:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> haay
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19:25:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
19:25:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> lol i made some awesome roundabout station yesterday
19:26:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You mean a ro-ro :P
19:26:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> what happened to it?
19:26:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> no, roundabout
19:26:20  <Stablean> <iklucas> well it was on mega's server
19:26:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> A roundabout is one way so its a ro-ro?
19:26:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> to showoff a bit, also made a huge LLLLRRRR BBH:P
19:26:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
19:26:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> ye it was roro, but with double ring
19:26:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> leme show ya
19:26:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
19:27:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> 12 tiles will be a problem, but anyways
19:27:37  <Stablean> <iklucas> hmm dunno if there is enough space
19:27:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P fine some, there is loads
19:28:25  <Stablean> <iklucas> check here
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19:29:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
19:29:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh i see what uyou mean
19:29:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey troy
19:29:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> hmm, damn station spread:P
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19:30:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:30:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
19:30:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> inner ring
19:30:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at here?
19:31:00  <Stablean> <iklucas> huh?
19:31:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
19:31:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> how on earth?:S
19:31:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what are you trying to do there?
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19:31:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Showing me something he made
19:31:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> On another server
19:32:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> it was kinda effective
19:32:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Would jam easily though
19:32:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> no it didnt
19:32:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> using prio's
19:32:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
19:32:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what was it for?
19:32:53  <Stablean> <iklucas> station:P
19:33:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> supposed to be 1 station?
19:33:07  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep
19:33:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So uh whats up with this network or these networks
19:34:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how so?
19:34:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There are 3
19:34:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> right
19:34:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I didnt have much time
19:34:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i wanted a moneymaker (coal)
19:34:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it worked out great
19:34:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh i thought coal was the MM
19:34:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> was just wondering why the 2 wood networks were independent
19:34:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i wanted to claim some wood, so other guys would work on it
19:35:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what do you think MM stands for?
19:35:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know it stand for Money Maker...
19:35:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so coal was the moneymaker
19:35:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it made money real fast
19:35:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so I already claimed 2 wood areas
19:36:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but didnt have time to join them and build on with paper and goods and stuff
19:36:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oki
19:36:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I was goign to set up a paper route but didnt know what the plan was
19:36:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no plan :D
19:36:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:36:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and this is coop, so unless a plan is given, build away :D
19:37:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The locos can be upgraded
19:37:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
19:37:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> pacific or mountain?
19:37:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> so can Wood wagons for a tiny bit of extra capacity
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19:37:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I was thinkking mountian at first but
19:37:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its longer
19:38:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Although it doesnt need a caboose
19:38:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
19:39:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So either way there would only be 4 wood wagons
19:39:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> With 112 capacity
19:39:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it does need a caboose
19:39:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (110) is current
19:39:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Does it?
19:39:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, the wagons do
19:39:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> When i tried earlier it worked
19:39:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> doin 3 flatcars: no caboose
19:40:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but replacing the mountain will need manual replacement
19:40:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if we switch to mountain
19:40:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Mountain and 4 flatcard doesnt need a caboose
19:40:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You're attachign older wagons which is way
19:40:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, length of train matters
19:40:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> #151: now 4 flatcars (yes, too long)
19:40:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it does need a caboose
19:41:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so more than 3 wagons: caboose
19:41:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> is 5 cars still TL3?
19:41:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, it is too long
19:41:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So theres no problem
19:41:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorry: more than 4 wagons: caboose
19:41:37  <Stablean> <iklucas> voila:D
19:41:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:41:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still, its hard replacing those with electric
19:42:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> needs to be done manually probably
19:42:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TBH the HP and TE would come in handy but since we cant squeeze in another wagon theres not much benefit over a pacific
19:42:33  <Stablean> <iklucas> the station i made yesterday:P
19:43:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Huh what needs to be done manually?
19:43:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> and in fact it worked:P
19:43:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just set caboose to be replaced by wood wagons and keep TL option on
19:43:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrMouthy: the mountain is a long train
19:44:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know :)
19:44:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so replacing it with an electric short train will leave extra space
19:44:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But were not...
19:44:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you would get tl 2,5, where it could be 3
19:44:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if we want to replace the mountain later
19:44:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Plus as the wagons will be longer by the time of elec loco upgrade the TL should stay the same
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19:45:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Upgrade doesnt rely on number of wagons, its TL
19:45:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> IF the wagons will be longer
19:45:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They will be...
19:45:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> could you watch #151
19:45:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's a Pacific
19:46:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Watching it...
19:46:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> checking with acceleration etc.
19:46:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :S
19:46:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its a lot better takes a while to reach top speed though...
19:46:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> we have 1 mountain:P
19:46:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If it ever will...
19:47:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah its a test :)
19:47:09  <Stablean> <iklucas> the faster acceleration, the better it is
19:47:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Mountain it is then i guess...
19:47:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> jams wont be solved with top speed
19:47:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we need to lose the Atlantic anyway
19:47:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Speed benefit is useless if the damn train cant each TS
19:47:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> and slow top speed can be solved with more trains;)
19:47:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I suggest the mountain
19:47:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
19:47:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> my wise words^^
19:47:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so mountain it is?
19:48:06  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep
19:48:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Uh huh ill start replacing wood trains
19:48:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
19:48:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> loads more TE
19:48:41  <Stablean> <iklucas> 80 more;)
19:48:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm no new coal wagons :/
19:49:07  <Stablean> <iklucas> and these pasifics only reach 128 anyways
19:49:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> two bay hoppers are fine
19:49:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> nvm on my last sentence:P
19:49:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not too much load (sure, it's best now), but it loads/unloads in two times
19:49:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill test to see if we can turn the coal cabooses into wagons with new train
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19:49:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so no need for very big sstations
19:50:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm it will
19:50:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill leave them on coal trains for now then
19:50:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think it has to do with either TL or number of wagons
19:50:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah cant remember which
19:51:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably number of wagons since im not changing the TL
19:51:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> youre changing it ever so slightly
19:51:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not in numbers, but in physical length
19:51:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i would have thought the game counts TL in tiles not wagons
19:52:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No of wagons is different
19:52:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know about that
19:52:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
19:52:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well all we know is it cant be done :)
19:53:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if that would be the case, length of train in tl wouldnt differ from one train with tl3 and another one
19:53:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P
19:53:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> thats right
19:53:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it does differ
19:53:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you look in depot
19:53:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> i thought train length doesnt matter on this server?
19:53:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I guess so, its probably on the wiki or something
19:53:49  <Stablean> <iklucas> to the corner speed
19:54:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what do you mean iklucas?
19:54:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Corner speed? Whats that got to do with it :P
19:54:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> where were u guys talking bout:P
19:54:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> length of train/caboose
19:54:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The differences between Train length in tile and no of wagons
19:55:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Then you mention curve speed xD
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20:01:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err
20:01:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
20:01:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I wanted to flip around everything on the right side of wood drop
20:01:32  <Stablean> *** twerkhoven has left the game (connection lost)
20:01:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh :P
20:01:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so they go in same direction
20:01:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well forget what i was doing then
20:02:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Are they always going to be seperated or will it be made in to one station?
20:02:23  <Stablean> *** twerkhoven joined the game
20:02:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what is best
20:02:50  *** Twerkhoven[L] has joined #openttdcoop.stable
20:03:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if we would like to change wood drop,it is easiest to join them
20:03:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well its fine how it is, I just like to connect everything even when that often results in jams :P
20:03:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True
20:03:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for now, it might be easier to keep them seperated
20:03:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, leave it as it is now
20:03:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so (i dont know why) trains can go past the stations
20:04:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> like this
20:04:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
20:04:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> needs to be 2x4bays
20:05:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Any suggestions for a paper drop?
20:05:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
20:06:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> How about !here
20:06:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no: Sylfs tracks are nearby
20:06:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so little room for expansion
20:06:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True
20:06:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and, apparently, Sylf wants to do something this game, so he wont like it either
20:07:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or one could be funded further south
20:08:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> take it north
20:08:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
20:09:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think !hereish is best since ToS tracks will probably occupy the other area
20:09:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And its nice and flat
20:09:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
20:10:47  <Stablean> <iklucas> if the station spread wud be bigger we cud use my masterwork
20:11:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm yeah :P
20:11:09  <Stablean> <iklucas> how about we fund our own?
20:11:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we have to fund our own
20:11:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think his talking about making a station design
20:12:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh we already foudn a site
20:12:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> where?
20:13:07  <Stablean> <iklucas> wow:P
20:13:27  <Stablean> <iklucas> more platforms?:P
20:13:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I thought 4 woudl be enough since its long distance
20:13:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
20:13:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in time, it needs to be more
20:15:06  <Stablean> <iklucas> are we cowards or what?
20:15:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
20:15:18  <Stablean> <iklucas> having 2 split networks
20:15:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> weaklings
20:15:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello ppl
20:15:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol i suggesting merging
20:15:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
20:15:42  <Stablean> <iklucas> hay
20:15:48  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
20:15:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> weaklings:P
20:15:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> since when does that exist?:"P
20:15:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when i built, it was easiest
20:16:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and no need to change it (yet)
20:16:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> although we might want another coal drop?
20:16:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> YUP
20:16:34  <Stablean> *** Ediz has left the game (general error)
20:16:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> what wud be a real exercizre
20:16:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> if we make 1 big drop station for all kinds of goods
20:17:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> possible
20:17:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats too easy...
20:17:07  <Stablean> *** Ediz joined the game
20:17:16  <Stablean> <iklucas> untill it gets bussy;)
20:17:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Boost with long TL
20:17:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> It would be like having 2 drop stations on the same part of a network not hard
20:18:06  <Stablean> <iklucas> new train:D
20:18:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its slower
20:18:20  <Stablean> <iklucas> texas is coool
20:18:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> texas
20:18:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> check the power...
20:18:32  <Stablean> <Ediz> hi all
20:18:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> jams cant be solved by max speed,
20:18:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Meh 75mph sucks
20:18:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> max speed can be solved by more trains;)
20:18:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey ediz
20:18:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we dont need that much power
20:18:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
20:19:04  <Stablean> <Ediz> vinnie how are you
20:19:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> the trains even slow down when they go 1 tile upwards
20:19:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> good and you?
20:19:26  <Stablean> <Ediz> fine thanx
20:19:46  <Stablean> <iklucas> if we'll merge the wood and coal trains it will be bussy and we wont be able to effort slow accelerations:P
20:19:48  <Stablean> <Ediz> winnie noting company
20:19:58  <Stablean> <Ediz> why
20:20:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> winnie the pooh
20:20:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ahh your english was so good
20:20:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but no ediz i have no company
20:20:46  <Stablean> <Ediz> oke
20:21:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrD2DG? ready with your station?
20:21:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Was just messing with the entrance
20:21:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The line isnt even built yet
20:21:53  <Stablean> <iklucas> u know they arent sunc huh?:P
20:23:53  <Stablean> <Ediz> bb all
20:23:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bb
20:23:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> bay
20:23:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
20:24:11  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> bb
20:24:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You made a pickup troy?
20:24:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> vya
20:24:27  <Stablean> *** Ediz has left the game (connection lost)
20:25:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> could you connect it !connect?
20:25:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
20:26:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> so the paper will be brought there?
20:26:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
20:26:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> okey;)
20:27:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> iklucas: does your station have deadlock prevention on purpose?
20:27:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> deadlock?
20:27:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the  prios
20:27:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> those things to the outside?
20:27:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> inner ring fills with trains but none can enter station
20:27:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> =deadlock
20:27:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That what i said earlier
20:27:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> high traffic roundabouts usually = jams
20:28:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no it is correct
20:29:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets work that station out in a different game
20:29:43  <Stablean> <iklucas> voila
20:29:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> i made it yesterday
20:29:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> and it worked
20:29:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> at high capacity
20:30:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> but ok!
20:30:08  <Stablean> <iklucas> we cud even make it LLRR:P
20:30:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> it was some quick improvisation i made yesterday in short time:P
20:30:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you should. Most trainssets only need a max of 6 platforms for a ML you have 16 atm
20:30:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> load station
20:31:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke
20:31:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> i made it for a line with an unstable imput
20:31:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> solo game?
20:31:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> solo?
20:31:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> singleplayer or multiplayer
20:31:44  <Stablean> <iklucas> idk
20:31:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> othe server
20:31:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke
20:31:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> i made it yesterday on !mega server
20:32:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that would be multiplayer :)
20:32:15  <Stablean> <iklucas> but these reset every 24 hour:(
20:32:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he;s cheating on us
20:32:27  <Stablean> <iklucas> me?
20:32:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah you
20:32:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D
20:32:39  <Stablean> <iklucas> nah, i was earlyer on mega's server then here
20:32:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> well he is not obliged to play just here
20:32:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> they got a cool cargodist server
20:32:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cargodist, okayd
20:33:01  <Stablean> <iklucas> i used to play there allot
20:33:09  <Stablean> <iklucas> but then my server got reset
20:33:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> and im too lazy to install cargodist again:P
20:33:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> but had great time on that server, together with chris
20:33:30  <Stablean> <iklucas> and some others
20:33:37  <Stablean> <iklucas> they got like, real world maps:P
20:33:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> chris booth?
20:33:43  <Stablean> <iklucas> yeps;)
20:33:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so you know him for a long time
20:33:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> ask him for his australia networks:p
20:34:04  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep;)
20:34:20  <Stablean> <iklucas> he always reserved australia for himself
20:34:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> and i was more into antartica
20:34:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> good old days;)
20:34:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> mrd2dg, you made the sign near Blubberbury valley?
20:34:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we can load such a serenario here :)
20:34:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> but vinnie, wanna work it out?
20:34:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, Vinnie: Toyland town names???
20:34:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> silly town names
20:35:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I didnt make that sign
20:35:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> maybe later
20:35:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> iklucas, you made that sign?
20:35:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> where?
20:35:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Blubberbury Valley
20:35:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i spend all day searching for a good movie that i didnt know
20:35:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now i am gonna watch it
20:35:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
20:35:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep i did;)
20:36:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
20:36:01  <Stablean> <iklucas> ok:P
20:36:03  <Stablean> <iklucas> check
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20:36:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> i did;)
20:36:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, ill explain later
20:36:37  <Stablean> <iklucas> as station wont be like this with LLRR anyways;)
20:37:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> and too less room to line up:P
20:37:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill explain LATER
20:37:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> :P
20:37:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> i know, when 1 train slows down the next will take other one without slowing down;)
20:37:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
20:37:41  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> bye
20:37:44  <Stablean> <iklucas> beebee
20:37:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
20:37:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
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20:37:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> justing beebeer
20:38:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> how about we make a station?:P
20:38:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Who made the no problem here sign?
20:38:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> me
20:39:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thought you might have remarks about that
20:39:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but there's no problem there
20:39:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> snow on the track...
20:39:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> causes delays here in netherlands
20:39:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> huge delay
20:39:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill make paper trains
20:40:35  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> same in scotland iklucas
20:40:41  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> even worse with buses
20:40:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh Hudson
20:41:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 110mph 2,500hp
20:41:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Decent TE as well
20:41:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Us for paper?
20:41:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *Use
20:41:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> u actually got luck here if ur trains comes when it snows
20:41:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, replace it for all
20:41:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
20:41:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> does it need cabosse
20:41:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> /
20:41:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill check
20:41:42  <Stablean> <iklucas> where u live in schotland?
20:41:55  <Stablean> *** Northern joined the game
20:41:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> highlands? lowlands?
20:42:05  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> central belt
20:42:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah it does
20:42:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> vilage/city?
20:42:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Stil upgrade?
20:42:18  <Stablean> *** Northern has left the game (leaving)
20:42:24  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> city
20:42:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what's the cargo capacity?
20:42:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> we're going to upgrade to northern?
20:42:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> :P
20:42:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its a loco
20:42:40  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> town actually
20:42:46  <Stablean> <iklucas> ehm, leme bet, edingbrough?
20:42:54  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> close but not quite
20:43:00  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> not glasgow or stirling either
20:43:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> exactly the way i shudnt spell it
20:43:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same length as the Mountain so no capacity increases possible
20:43:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But the speed is good
20:43:27  <Stablean> <iklucas> inverkeithing?
20:43:31  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> falkrik
20:43:39  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> falkirk
20:44:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Use it?
20:44:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why can i have # 153 without caboose?
20:44:23  <Stablean> <iklucas> between edinbrug and glascow:P
20:44:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Becuase its only 4 wagons
20:44:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same as current
20:44:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> im going to schotland in juli:P
20:44:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> first 1 week to london, family meeting and then by train to schotland
20:45:15  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> nice
20:45:43  <Stablean> <iklucas> my family comes from inverkeithing from origion
20:46:02  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> just across the stream then
20:46:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep;)
20:46:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill make them paper for now coal and wood can be done after if you wanna test
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20:47:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> im still hoping we'll also go to st andrews:P where some rich family member lives in a huge house
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20:48:08  <Twerkhoven[L]> if you do, be sure to visit the secret bunker
20:48:15  <Twerkhoven[L]> just follow the signs
20:48:23  <Stablean> <iklucas> secret bunker?
20:48:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> very secret indeed
20:48:41  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> yeah, there's a secret government bunker near st andrews
20:48:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Who chaned the station name :?
20:48:56  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> for the gvt to hide in in case of nuclear attack
20:49:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well Iklucas ofc but why? :P
20:49:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> who else;)
20:49:44  <Stablean> <iklucas> ye just googled it, seems cool
20:49:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> some cold war bunker, always interresting;)
20:49:56  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> it is
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20:50:05  <Stablean> <iklucas> will be lobbying for it
20:50:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> dont know if my parents will adventualy also go with me to st andrews
20:50:41  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
20:50:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait
20:50:57  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> you should try to convince them, mine certainly enjoyed it
20:53:08  <Stablean> <iklucas> nice:D
20:53:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> i'll
20:53:19  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7)
20:55:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, replace it
20:55:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oki
20:56:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We stil have 1 atlantic?
20:56:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh it was stopped in depot
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20:57:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrD2DG, check !this
20:57:37  <Stablean> <iklucas> Player, plzz take a name using !name newname
20:57:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Should I LL_RR from the paper mill pickup to the split?
20:57:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it actually should
20:57:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh there
20:58:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> alread autoreplaced
20:58:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You gonna start the race? :P
20:58:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait
20:58:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> now
20:59:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hudson winning
20:59:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> about same acceleratory power
20:59:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but Hudson can go faster
20:59:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh by about 3 tiles
20:59:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all about higher speed now
21:00:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That 75mph trains doesnt stand a chance
21:00:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> come again?
21:00:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
21:00:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hudsoon will win
21:00:53  <Stablean> <iklucas> where?
21:00:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
21:01:07  <Stablean> <iklucas> hudson win?
21:01:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Uh huh
21:01:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you there?
21:01:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> aah
21:01:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> lol
21:01:23  <Stablean> <iklucas> im here
21:01:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That 5000hp has a better start but TS kicks in at the end
21:01:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
21:01:57  <Stablean> *** Sasha joined the game
21:01:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> but
21:02:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats a bigger win that with the pacific
21:02:15  <Stablean> <iklucas> now make a merge and count how long it takes if we put 5 trains on the track to all 5 reach desiny
21:02:25  <Stablean> <iklucas> destiny
21:03:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No goal here
21:03:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no goal server
21:03:13  <Stablean> <Sasha> ok
21:03:17  <Stablean> *** twerkhoven has left the game (connection lost)
21:03:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL
21:04:00  <Stablean> <iklucas> loll
21:04:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> YES WHO WINS
21:04:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:04:57  <Stablean> *** Sasha has started a new company (#8)
21:05:01  <Stablean> <iklucas> see?
21:05:11  <Stablean> *** twerkhoven joined the game
21:05:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm yeah :)
21:05:23  <Stablean> <iklucas> we shudnt take hudson:P
21:05:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So we upgrading then troy?
21:05:29  <Stablean> *** twerkhoven has joined company #4
21:05:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh i wasnt loog at race
21:05:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait, trying to make this right
21:05:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Top speed is still better
21:05:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We cantd owngrade
21:05:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> top speed says nothing
21:06:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hay
21:06:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes it does
21:06:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who was messing with the Hudson
21:06:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> iklucas????
21:06:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not every rack has a merge split, slowdown
21:06:20  <Stablean> <iklucas> duh the hudson wins like that
21:06:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Are you forgetting that most of the track in this network is long and straight there TS matters
21:06:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so yes: upgrade
21:06:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> but on a server where it's about big networks and logistics u'd better take stronger trains above top speed
21:07:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Are you actually suggesting we downsgrade to 75mph
21:07:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats silly
21:07:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, upgrade
21:07:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> to 177kph
21:07:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I am
21:07:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, fine
21:07:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> upgrade to more power instead of upgrade to more speed;)
21:07:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> nty :)
21:07:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Power is fine atm
21:07:51  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> shouldn't you add more wagons to the test-trains to simulate full loads?
21:07:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If the HP was in the 1'00s then fine
21:07:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> check !yeahright
21:08:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only if you have different wagons
21:08:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats because of the slower trains
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21:08:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, iim sure (already did that earlier) that...
21:08:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> more wagons, even when accounting for tons, doesnt simulate full load
21:09:03  <Stablean> <iklucas> take these 5k power trains;)
21:09:07  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> fair enough
21:09:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, not nearly
21:09:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the number of wagons is very different
21:09:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and, apparently, it has a role in accelerating
21:09:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> train 32?
21:10:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> funny, but im sure that just adding empty wagons to account for enough tonnes, isnt enough
21:10:09  <Stablean> <Iccarah> You should make a sign system where the first to arrive gets to ride through, while second place gets a red sign
21:10:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> we got a fail in our network:P
21:10:30  <Stablean> <iklucas> the coal trains:P
21:10:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> whats wrong wiht them?
21:10:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> are coming from right
21:10:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> nvm
21:10:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> ur fixing it;)
21:11:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> or whoever u is
21:11:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol someone forgot to make a connection?
21:11:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> now its theere;)
21:11:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They are still takign the wrong route :/
21:11:49  <Stablean> <Iccarah> also, there's a dip in the right hand side track
21:12:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bafd signal somewhere
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21:12:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> 90 degrees corner?:P
21:12:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> quick fix
21:13:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only thing is:
21:13:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they are full?!
21:13:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> what trains need that quick fix?
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21:13:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Error @ the drop?
21:13:18  <Stablean> *** Shpiler has started a new company (#9)
21:13:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps
21:14:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if there were one
21:14:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its gone now
21:14:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> trains are doing what they should at coal drop
21:14:23  <Stablean> <Iccarah> in fact, you should make all rises and falls at the same locations. If you go down earlier, you have advantage
21:14:34  <Stablean> <Iccarah> cos you can accelerate going down
21:14:40  <Stablean> <Iccarah> so you arrive at finish earlier
21:14:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> but u'll lose it also earlyer
21:14:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> the advantage
21:15:20  <Stablean> <Iccarah> not really..
21:15:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> if the trains dont reach  their themself top speed they dont
21:15:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, it was a mistake
21:15:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> should be fixed now
21:16:00  <Stablean> <Iccarah> just at the end
21:16:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
21:16:30  <Stablean> <Iccarah> right hand track drops later than left hand one
21:16:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> where?
21:16:44  <Stablean> <Iccarah> perfect/
21:16:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> guys: GG1
21:17:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Already
21:17:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ofc it isnt in sycn it isnt conected
21:17:15  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost)
21:17:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What are you doing?
21:17:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can add extra wagon
21:17:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im not finished yet
21:17:39  <Stablean> <iklucas> ^^
21:18:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check !this for dragrace hudson (177/2535) vs GG1 (160/4684)
21:18:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> GG1 has one extra wagon
21:18:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats better though?
21:18:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check it
21:19:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you there?
21:19:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wait
21:19:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok go
21:19:14  <Stablean> <iklucas> lets go
21:19:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> lol
21:19:24  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (general error)
21:19:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> DEFO CG1
21:19:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> with 1 extra wagon
21:19:44  <Stablean> <iklucas> rofl
21:19:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TS is more or less the same with better HP and TE
21:19:48  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (general error)
21:19:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the replacing with one extra wagon needs to be done by hand
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21:20:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not for coal
21:20:09  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
21:20:11  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
21:20:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi V
21:20:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> indeed not for cool
21:20:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> hi V
21:20:25  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> hi V
21:20:29  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi
21:20:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> check out my uber station^^
21:20:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> replacing it?
21:21:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We just got the hudsons and even they arent fully done :P
21:21:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dunno
21:21:25  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#10)
21:21:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> for sure it shud be replaced
21:21:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> first solve our network?
21:21:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah finish the LL_RR
21:21:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> why is it needless?:P
21:21:56  <Stablean> <V453000> what does it do?
21:22:04  <Stablean> <V453000> when is it red? :)
21:22:15  <Stablean> <iklucas> make it only go to right if there is a free spot
21:22:22  <Stablean> <V453000> no
21:22:46  <Stablean> <V453000> the only and sole purpose of an entry signal is to allow the train go into the "fork" under circumstances X
21:23:06  <Stablean> <V453000> since circumstances X are always fine since the 2way exit always is green, it does not do anything
21:23:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
21:23:16  <Stablean> <iklucas> so it will never jam?
21:23:20  <Stablean> <V453000> this combo signal does the job
21:23:30  <Stablean> <V453000> it will probably
21:23:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> there wont be trains getting stuck there?
21:23:34  <Stablean> <V453000> you need the combo to be 2way
21:23:54  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont want trains to stop there, right? at least I understand it that way from making there the 2way
21:23:58  <Stablean> <V453000> the 2way exit
21:24:12  <Stablean> <V453000> ye
21:24:20  <Stablean> <V453000> now the entry and exit signals are needless
21:24:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep i dont want em get stuck
21:24:28  <Stablean> <V453000> and the combo can be made into a 2way entry
21:24:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> and there wont go trains to right and get stopped by that red combo sign?
21:25:05  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
21:25:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ugh damn forest
21:25:36  <Stablean> <V453000> no, they will never go to a 2way built like this
21:26:22  <Stablean> <V453000> this just works :)
21:26:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> my system works:P
21:26:45  <Stablean> <twerkhoven> gnite all
21:26:47  <Stablean> <V453000> cya
21:26:47  <Stablean> <iklucas> gnite;)
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21:26:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
21:27:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bb
21:27:21  <Stablean> <V453000> well, sure, it works, if you put there the 2ways ... the exits just arent needed at all :)
21:27:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> why dont we replace, it might fix the jam
21:27:42  <Stablean> <iklucas> they arent?
21:27:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> best to finish LLrr first
21:27:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> have to do that anyway
21:28:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> replacing might increase jam
21:28:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> shot me next to it how it shud look like
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21:28:30  <Stablean> <iklucas> u just want it like this right?
21:28:34  <Stablean> <V453000> no
21:28:50  <Stablean> <V453000> like this
21:28:52  <Stablean> <V453000> big difference
21:28:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> ah
21:29:02  <Stablean> <iklucas> whats the diff?
21:29:18  <Stablean> <V453000> that the 1way entry would not have the 2way properties
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21:29:30  <Stablean> <V453000> you know what 2way eol is?
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21:29:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Changed paper pickup so lines have acess to all platforms
21:29:44  <Stablean> <V453000> or ... why do we use 2ways?
21:29:48  <Stablean> <iklucas> not really:P
21:29:56  <Stablean> <V453000> okay, lets show
21:30:06  <Stablean> <iklucas> never understood that part, except in prio's ofc:P
21:30:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Woah
21:30:36  <Stablean> <V453000> prios doesnt have anything to do with 2way eol
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21:30:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> lag?
21:30:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Game just died for a mine
21:30:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> was a spike i think
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21:31:11  <Stablean> <V453000> alright, see my train
21:31:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> are the 50 quid already received?:P
21:31:15  <Stablean> <iklucas> ok
21:31:17  <Stablean> <V453000> just a simple ring
21:31:25  <Stablean> <iklucas> yes
21:31:27  <Stablean> <V453000> one would expect that the train will always take the short path
21:31:44  <Stablean> <V453000> especially if I heavily penalize the other route
21:31:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> like u just did?
21:31:52  <Stablean> <V453000> but lets say there is a full platform
21:31:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> with these pbs?
21:32:14  <Stablean> <V453000> yea, those are for penalty
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21:32:18  <Stablean> <iklucas> really?:P
21:32:20  <Stablean> <V453000> so the train dislikes to go there even more
21:32:22  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
21:32:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> never even heard that
21:32:36  <Stablean> <V453000> alright, see this
21:32:36  <Stablean> <iklucas> ok, so now
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21:32:43  <Stablean> <V453000> we have a train that stops in the station for a while
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21:33:07  <Stablean> <V453000> what we want is to make the next train that comes, make it go around the circle, not wait for the platform to free up
21:33:15  <Stablean> <V453000> see what happens now
21:33:25  <Stablean> <V453000> it stucks
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21:33:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep, thats pri for
21:33:35  <Stablean> <V453000> lets see now
21:33:43  <Stablean> <iklucas> :O
21:33:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> wow
21:33:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> is it, because it sends a signal back or what?
21:33:54  <Stablean> <V453000> now that is because when the 2way is red, the train totally hates to go there
21:34:15  <Stablean> <V453000> ignore any directions, look from the "outer" side
21:34:25  <Stablean> <iklucas> why is the thing going back making it really hate it?
21:34:37  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt going back
21:34:45  <Stablean> <V453000> it just is a feature of a 2way signal
21:34:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> the double is going back isnt it?
21:35:04  <Stablean> <iklucas> ah ok
21:35:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> but...
21:35:27  <Stablean> <iklucas> if they are both locked
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21:35:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> ehm...
21:35:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> who was that?
21:36:06  <Stablean> <V453000> dont bother ... ask away
21:36:23  <Stablean> <iklucas> who was shphiler knowing our pass?
21:36:25  <Stablean> <V453000> which both locked?
21:36:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> oh nvm
21:36:31  <Stablean> <iklucas> ehm, well
21:36:33  <Stablean> <V453000> he was orange not yellow
21:36:53  <Stablean> <iklucas> and then both locked
21:36:57  <Stablean> <iklucas> wich 1 will it prefer then?
21:37:01  <Stablean> <iklucas> the 1 straight out?
21:37:03  <Stablean> <V453000> the 1way of course
21:37:11  <Stablean> <iklucas> nice
21:37:17  <Stablean> <V453000> because the 2way is totally hated, where the 1way is just disliked, to say it that way
21:37:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> so this system will in fact never block
21:37:45  <Stablean> <V453000> or ... a red 1way has some penalty, just like if there is the PBS. On the other hand, red 2way has something like a total penalty - eol
21:37:51  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
21:37:59  <Stablean> <V453000> but remove the entry signals ;)
21:38:14  <Stablean> <V453000> see this
21:38:22  <Stablean> <V453000> this is the same as what you have now
21:38:28  <Stablean> <V453000> or, you had :)
21:38:36  <Stablean> <V453000> you see my point? :)
21:39:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> ty u learned me something new;)
21:39:37  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
21:39:37  <Stablean> <iklucas> just the 1 under the bridge is a prob
21:39:55  <Stablean> <V453000> if you ever seen or tried to build the overflows, they work pretty much based on this
21:40:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> overflow is actually what i made in this train network right?
21:40:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> with the trains going to drive rounds on the roundabout, or not?
21:40:57  <Stablean> <V453000> quite
21:41:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> i'll just keep that underneath bridge like it is now huh?
21:41:18  <Stablean> <V453000> no, do this :)
21:41:54  <Stablean> <V453000> so that it cant clog up ... if the inner circle gets full you will need to stop sending trains there or it will deadlock
21:42:02  <Stablean> <V453000> by train overload
21:42:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> fails
21:43:23  <Stablean> <V453000> you see how I mean that?
21:43:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LL_RR done?
21:44:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> wait
21:44:30  <Stablean> <iklucas> no it doesnt work
21:44:36  <Stablean> <iklucas> oh there is:P
21:44:46  <Stablean> <iklucas> but...
21:44:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> my old system just had 1 normal signal after
21:45:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb gonna eat
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21:45:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> ye u right, these normal signals will do the trick
21:45:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> whhoops
21:45:34  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, quite
21:45:48  <Stablean> <V453000> your old solution does work, but is as needless as the previous ones :)
21:45:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep;)
21:46:00  <Stablean> <V453000> this just shows you understand signals properly ;)
21:46:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> too bad it isnt perfect
21:46:30  <Stablean> <iklucas> as,
21:46:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> there is a 3 gap
21:46:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> wich i cudnt solve:(
21:47:02  <Stablean> <V453000> it is fine imo
21:47:16  <Stablean> <iklucas> well i noticed at max capacity it sometimes jammed
21:47:25  <Stablean> <V453000> what I rather see as a problem is that trains cannot go to the first platforms
21:47:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> for a sec, as the 3 gap when a train joins that station
21:47:47  <Stablean> <iklucas> they can
21:48:08  <Stablean> <V453000> well, yes but only after going all around
21:48:08  <Stablean> <iklucas> oh not direct no
21:48:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep, shortage of space yesterday, else i wud have split the merge and split
21:48:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> but i ofc can make the inner part turn the other way and fix that prob
21:49:54  <Stablean> <iklucas> but imo the trains inside the circle deserve a privilege on these station spots
21:50:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> as they are waiting longer
21:50:21  <Stablean> <iklucas> and if the trains need to drive 1 round first it isnt a big problem
21:51:03  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess :)
21:51:09  <Stablean> <iklucas> :P
21:51:15  <Stablean> <iklucas> leme try making it nicer
21:51:34  <Stablean> <iklucas> couldnt do so yesterday because of the max station spread, that was set back to low
21:52:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> werkhoven, you need to improve
21:52:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> hes off
21:52:44  <Stablean> <iklucas> wow huge lag just for me?
21:52:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> there was
21:52:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, think so
21:53:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> u guys had no delay on everything 20 sec ago?
21:53:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
21:53:36  <Stablean> <iklucas> hmm
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21:55:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> still same problem, even +1
21:56:13  <Stablean> <iklucas> :P
21:58:29  <Stablean> <iklucas> hmm will be even harder huh?
21:58:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> lag0,0
21:59:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wireless?
21:59:23  <Stablean> <iklucas> nop
22:04:11  <Stablean> <iklucas> hmm
22:04:17  <Stablean> <iklucas> how to make an entry:P
22:05:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> evem harder like this, isnt it?
22:07:56  <Stablean> <iklucas> v, got any idea how to connect?
22:08:04  <Stablean> <V453000> what exactly? :)
22:08:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> inner circle like this:P
22:09:10  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm
22:09:28  <Stablean> <V453000> defintely not at this state ;) try something
22:10:12  <Stablean> <iklucas> nop:P
22:10:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> V, why do the Hudsons dont all look alike
22:11:20  <Stablean> <iklucas> lol? where are all our trains
22:11:22  <Stablean> <V453000> date of constructions
22:11:24  <Stablean> <V453000> I think
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22:12:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> did V answer?
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22:14:10  <Stablean> *** Joshua_M has started a new company (#4)
22:15:07  <V453000> [00:11] <+Stablean> <V453000> date of constructions [00:11] <+Stablean> <V453000> I think
22:16:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> no, this wont work i think:P
22:17:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> except when i do it like this:P
22:17:22  <Stablean> *** JAM joined the game
22:17:39  <Stablean> <iklucas> no, nor then
22:18:35  <Stablean> *** JAM has started a new company (#11)
22:19:31  <Stablean> *** JAM has left the game (leaving)
22:19:35  <Stablean> <iklucas> voila:D
22:21:40  <Stablean> <iklucas> done:D
22:22:47  <Stablean> <iklucas> voila:P
22:24:04  <Stablean> <iklucas> my old 1 looked nicer, didnt it?
22:24:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how about trying to design a station with as much waiting bays as possible on a 12x12 square
22:24:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this looks nice, probably works
22:24:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but what does it actually do?
22:25:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is it meant for drop/pick?
22:25:51  <Stablean> <iklucas> pickup
22:26:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 20 bays
22:26:10  <Stablean> <iklucas> as drop doesnt need so much platforms:D
22:26:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they are supposed to be 1 station?
22:26:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> yep
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22:26:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why choose for this layout?
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22:28:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb
22:28:45  <Stablean> <iklucas> will lag out soon
22:28:57  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has paused the server.
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22:29:22  <Stablean> <iklucas> 1 sec
22:29:50  <Stablean> <iklucas> ok
22:29:53  <Stablean> <iklucas> shud be a liiiitle better now
22:29:59  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has enabled autopause mode.
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22:30:03  <Stablean> <iklucas> now only 70% chance i lag out;)
22:30:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> better already?
22:30:15  <Stablean> <iklucas> its all since of my sisters macbook
22:30:27  <Stablean> <iklucas> when she's connected, i got connection provlems
22:31:28  <Stablean> <iklucas> but ye, it shud be 1 station;)
22:31:52  <Stablean> <iklucas> with an unstable imput its a great loading station
22:32:05  <Stablean> <iklucas> will queue up in rounddriving trains
22:32:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could use an overflow youknow
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22:33:19  <Stablean> <iklucas> overflow?
22:33:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yea, overflow
22:33:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you dont know overflow?
22:33:33  <Stablean> <iklucas> an empty line or not?
22:33:43  <Stablean> <iklucas> this is so much cooler:P
22:33:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> figures, we barely use it
22:33:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this looks cooler
22:33:59  <Stablean> <iklucas> this is in fact an efficient overflow;)
22:34:04  <V453000> @@ABR 04
22:34:13  <V453000> @ABR04
22:34:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I think its less effecient
22:34:13  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 04: Overflows at #openttdcoop -
22:34:18  <V453000> and @ABR08
22:34:24  <Stablean> <iklucas> as while using the overflow it can join platforms
22:34:25  <V453000> read this iklucas and you know what overflows are ;
22:34:30  <V453000> and @@ABR08
22:34:31  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 08: Overflows II at #openttdcoop -
22:34:32  <Stablean> <iklucas> i cant
22:34:38  <Stablean> <iklucas> i'll lag out if i load that:P
22:34:47  <V453000> well, anytime you want
22:34:54  <V453000> it is long I believe
22:34:55  <Stablean> <iklucas> tomorows:P
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22:35:26  <Stablean> <iklucas> on next lag out i'll go sleep
22:35:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> k
22:35:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sleep tight, then
22:35:58  <Stablean> <V453000> gnight
22:35:58  <Stablean> <iklucas> ;)
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22:36:09  <Stablean> <iklucas> not yet lagged out^^
22:37:27  <Stablean> <iklucas> im off anyways;)
22:37:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
22:37:39  <Stablean> <iklucas> bonne nuit^^
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22:38:22  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> just wondering... do i really need a "caboose" wagon for my freight trains?
22:38:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try starting it without
22:39:01  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> they can't stop can't they? ;)
22:39:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when the trains are short enough, you dont need one
22:39:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so your train doesnt need one yet
22:39:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but now it does
22:39:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> since you added all those wagons
22:39:52  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> what happens if you dont?
22:39:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, after 1985, i think, you dont need cabooses
22:40:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it just wont start
22:40:06  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> ok
22:40:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no big deal, no crashes or suff
22:40:41  <Stablean> <Sasha> coop
22:40:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes?
22:41:03  <Stablean> <Sasha> do something with you trains
22:41:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which?
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22:41:31  <Stablean> <Sasha> i placed a table
22:41:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I see
22:41:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you want
22:41:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can take over the food division there
22:42:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> since youre already stealing my food there...
22:42:31  <Stablean> <Sasha> )
22:42:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and btw, you really need to learn building a network
22:43:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
22:43:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you have all sorts of short angles and stuff, real bad
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22:44:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb
22:44:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats the difference between the test and testing groups? :P
22:45:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really anything
22:45:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the Hudsons differ
22:45:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i thought that was weird
22:45:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They differ?
22:45:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> look at the ones in testing
22:45:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> only in appearance though
22:45:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh lots of locos have that
22:46:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> never saw it before
22:46:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Like in the Japan set quite a few lcos and wagons change sprite after a certain date
22:46:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill sell them, okay?
22:46:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, nice feature
22:47:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in test are drag trains
22:47:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they need to be a protected group in case of overall autoreplace
22:47:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i know that
22:47:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You bought T workovens company?
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22:47:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
22:48:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he failed to electrify some key parts
22:48:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> went bankrupt
22:48:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
22:49:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So can coal trains take an extra wagon w/o caboose?
22:49:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, i tried it
22:49:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> real annoying
22:49:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/ Yep
22:49:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you want you can check
22:49:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nah if you tried then its fine
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22:54:53  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> coop, how long did it take to build your company? looks very impressive!
22:55:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea...
22:55:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I guess in total this cost 20 years
22:55:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> started in 19000
22:55:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 1900
22:55:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We Coop a lot though so its not hard
22:55:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but not all the time working to build
22:56:58  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> "toilet paper" nice humer there
22:57:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> after a while you start to do that
22:57:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's that or books
22:57:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
22:57:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure, you could come up with other paper products
22:57:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but not as funny :D
22:57:48  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> i alway think of it as newspaper rolls
22:57:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same
22:58:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or cat litter box fillings...
23:09:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wanna make a goods drop?
23:09:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where do you wanna build one?
23:09:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea was just suggesting before i go :P
23:09:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it IS next on the list of things to do
23:09:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Preferably on the opposite end of the map from the pickup
23:10:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but im not really in the mood for it now
23:10:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same
23:10:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> last check on stations
23:10:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then i go
23:10:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anyway im gonna go now
23:10:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
23:10:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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23:10:50  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> bb
23:23:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the hell i dont want to
23:23:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but if someone gets those trees, it'd better be me
23:23:54  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> well.... your not really saveing them... you killing them for wood :P
23:24:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but they need to be dead
23:24:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> otherwise i cant extend my station area
23:24:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> especially with that station of yours
23:24:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> could you at least move it one tile up, preferably more
23:25:07  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> k i'll move it
23:25:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure
23:25:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can station walk it on this corner
23:28:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and if you could also move your wood drop to !here
23:28:34  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> sure
23:29:26  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> thanks for the money
23:29:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just a reward for cooperating
23:30:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its peanuts for me anyway
23:35:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, i cant let you do that
23:35:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats just plain old stealing
23:36:17  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> sorry.... is that ageanst the rules?
23:36:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
23:36:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> theoretically you are doing also at that forest
23:36:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you were there first with station I with trains
23:36:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but at the coal mine, no, that just not right
23:37:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for other rules, check the !rules
23:37:42  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> arn't you stealing @ the forest?
23:37:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> as i mentioned, your station was first
23:38:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but my train's older :D
23:39:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the sole reason you built there was because I said the forest had to die
23:39:59  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> i'll remove it if you want
23:40:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, I'd like that a lot
23:40:34  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> np
23:42:30  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> there you go (you might want to remove your station if you want to forest to die)
23:42:38  <Stablean> <Joshua_M> ok you did it
23:43:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont spend it all at once
23:43:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> have fun

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