Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 19th June 2011:
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00:00:05  <V453000> oooh
00:00:06  <V453000> nice
00:00:15  <V453000> not like I need one but that is nice
00:00:22  <leg3nd> before i did hate them. the nonly one left handede could use where the boomslang.
00:00:40  <leg3nd> and it where crap. back in the days. but now a deathadder left handede is sweet :>
00:00:56  <V453000> :) I have mamba and I cant complain either
00:01:01  <Stablean> <Anson> in our house (appartment house), people once decided to switch from antenna to cable ... and now it is included in the rent
00:01:58  <Stablean> <Anson> and the DVB-C has even 3-5 HD channels for free :-)
00:02:03  <leg3nd> license is such a bad thing. there is never anything good on tv. and way to many comercials :>
00:02:44  <leg3nd> and OH GOD i hate ppl thinking when they buy a tv that is HD-ready that it mean that it can take HD channels.
00:02:50  <Stablean> <Anson> i rarely use any DVB now ... switched to IPTV :-)
00:03:04  <Stablean> <Anson> getting 105 channels :-)
00:03:38  <leg3nd> Rofl at how many customers that is saying i just bought this tv for xxxx$ and i cant see HD channels. "well read up m8 there aint any mpeg4 support or DVB-C ;>
00:04:56  <Stablean> <Anson> in germany, ARD and ZDF, as well as a few others like arte or 3sat, etc MUST be free without any extra charges, and that applies to HD too
00:05:08  <leg3nd> anson its better to DL the series :>
00:06:30  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, when i watch two channels at the same time (recording both, or watching one and rec the other), i have only 6 mbit left on my download, and 1 on upload
00:06:34  <Stablean> <Anson> :-)
00:06:52  <leg3nd> hmm not that strong connection you are on ?
00:07:06  <Stablean> <Anson> 16000 kbit
00:07:22  <Stablean> <Anson> two SD channels are 5 mbit each
00:07:23  <leg3nd> hmm and that is in m/bit
00:07:47  <Stablean> <Anson> 16000 kilobit = 16 megabit :-)
00:07:55  <leg3nd> omg that is slow
00:08:01  <leg3nd>
00:08:09  <leg3nd> just made a small test here.
00:08:53  <Stablean> <Anson> what is your connection ?
00:09:15  <leg3nd> it should be a 100/100
00:09:23  <leg3nd> but the upload is never really that good.
00:10:11  <Stablean> <Anson> and what do you pay for that ?
00:10:29  <leg3nd> in swedish its 350kr
00:10:53  <leg3nd> thats around 40
00:10:57  <Stablean> <Anson> here, it is around 60 eu for internet flatrate plus phone flatrate plus 100+ channels TV
00:11:05  <V453000> xDDD that site told me 0,12Mbps upload rate :D ... which is quite realistic amount for this piece of shit I suppose :D
00:11:37  <leg3nd> V453000 you know it helps to stop the utorrent :>
00:12:09  <V453000> shame is that there is none atm :d
00:12:28  <leg3nd> omg, guess you aint a big seeder then :>
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00:14:14  <V453000> I should have something better in like 2 months
00:14:14  <leg3nd> V453000
00:14:28  <V453000> ? :D
00:14:33  <leg3nd> have you experienced any kind of lag on the 64bit client of ttd ?
00:14:44  <V453000> no, not really
00:14:51  <leg3nd> for some reason it runs so much better on my 32 xp laptop
00:15:04  <leg3nd> here on the 64 bit win 7 it lags in the mouse.
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00:15:53  <leg3nd> and no its not the comp :>
00:16:07  <leg3nd> (CPU1) Intel Core i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz @ 1176MHz (ASUSTeK Computer INC. P7P55D-E LX mainboard) (RAM) 8GB, 5.82GB free (HDDs) 3.76TB, 2.56TB free
00:16:07  <leg3nd> (VGA1) ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (1GB), 1920x1080x32, 60Hz (OS) Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (SP1) 64-bit, 9h 28m 41s uptime, 9h 28m 41s uptime record
00:16:36  <V453000> :<
00:16:56  <leg3nd> oh and a SSD sata 6 as os disk.. Holy fuck that is fast.
00:17:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
00:17:52  <leg3nd> but then again. holy fuck its expensive :>
00:18:13  <leg3nd> where not that happy to pay for the corsair performance 3 128gb disk :<
00:21:47  <leg3nd> Hmm any dare to let me join and help out ? :>:>
00:22:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well this isnt just my company but i dont mind
00:23:53  <leg3nd> Hmm well then i better not, then you get all the blame when i go balistik on it :>
00:24:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol ok
00:24:09  <leg3nd> hehe just kidding, been like, over  year since i last played :>
00:25:33  <leg3nd> so V453000 what is it now that you are working with.
00:26:09  <leg3nd> been so long time since, that i have forgotten all about it. you know when you get up in age the alzhimer is sneaking up on you. it is for me thats for sure
00:26:24  <V453000> I am making some ... fucking dumb thing
00:27:04  <V453000> just some graphical ... piece of thing that everyone will use as a toilet paper and laugh for a long time how stupid it actually is
00:27:38  <V453000> if not by the graphical style, then by the actual content of the paper
00:27:57  <V453000> I should be done soon, which is about the only good thing =D
00:28:13  <leg3nd> toilet paper graphical design. did not know that where needed.
00:29:16  <leg3nd> come to think of it. that must be such a demening thing to think of. The person that did invent the Dots or the lines in a toilet paper, none really appriciate it. all just whipe shit on it.
00:29:17  <V453000> well it isnt a toilet paper by desin, just a side-effect because of the utter bullshit written on it
00:29:19  <leg3nd> :<
00:29:48  <V453000> the paper will be useless anyway, nobody is going to read that
00:29:52  <leg3nd> well what pays the rent right V453000
00:29:59  <V453000> hm :)
00:30:03  <leg3nd> that is the most importan.
00:30:06  <leg3nd> t
00:30:19  <V453000> unfortunately. :D
00:30:36  <leg3nd> yeah i still havent found my rich woman.
00:30:47  <leg3nd> life just not fair :>
00:30:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
00:31:01  <V453000> those bitches are well hidden
00:31:18  <V453000> usually next to 90 year old millionaires
00:31:23  <leg3nd> tell me about it. now i just find ones that just want my body. so anoying to be usede like that.
00:31:41  <leg3nd> cough cough. :>
00:31:44  <V453000> :P
00:31:49  <Stablean> <Anson> while you are waiting for her, does anybody know of problems with conditional orders and the numbers you specify ?
00:32:29  <V453000> what do you mean Anson?
00:32:32  <Stablean> <Anson> example : look at any train's orders who has "speedup" station in them
00:32:57  <Stablean> <Anson> there is a conditional on max speed, and i entered 150 in the dialog, but it shows 149
00:33:15  <Stablean> <Anson> that also happens with some other comparisons, and other numbers
00:34:04  <Stablean> <Anson> to separate 144 from 160, it doesn't mattrer whether 149 or 150, but it is strange
00:34:07  <leg3nd> dont look at me. i know nothing here. it has to be V that is gonna answer that.
00:35:15  <V453000> yes, that is probably the speed thingy
00:35:21  <V453000> you for example cannot set nutracks for 100kmh
00:35:26  <V453000> only 99 or 101
00:35:44  <V453000> I dont know if that is because it is somehow rounded and set in mph or whatever
00:35:49  <V453000> just assuming
00:36:20  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe the §$§%§$ imperial units mess it up :-)
00:37:07  <V453000> no clue
00:37:57  <Stablean> <Anson> you are probably right .. i think ttd internally uses imperial units, and thus my input is converted twice to be shown in the orders list
00:41:05  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: i just downgraded my trains from the fast 186 kph streamliner to the slower 160 kph EE AL6 (but 2x3650 instead of 2x1825 power), and wagons from old wagons to new hoppers, and suddenly my overflow is filled with 7 trains, instead of leaving 500 tons behind :-)
00:41:22  <V453000> :)
00:41:53  <V453000> well I wouldnt say streamliner to AL6 is a downgrade, but ... :)
00:42:36  <Stablean> <Anson> depends ... on this map with "some small hills", power is more important than top speed
00:42:53  <V453000> not really
00:42:59  <V453000> power is needed always
00:43:09  <V453000> or to be precise, on any map
00:43:21  <V453000> hills are sooner or later not a concern when trains get better
00:43:43  <V453000> the concern is flat-land acceleration because that will make your lines fuller/emptier, and many mechanisms will work much better
00:44:07  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, faster accelaration, and uphill (fully loaded) at 140 instead of 80
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00:46:10  <Stablean> <Anson> transport rating also went up from 50-60 % to 90%, and mines are growing :-)
00:46:41  <Stablean> <Anson> i knew about these effects in theory, but never had seen them so clearly :-)
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00:52:11  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 7
00:52:11  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
00:52:28  <Stablean> <V453000> leg3nd: you should have seen my last company here :p was quite nice
00:52:57  <leg3nd> :< arr missede that thats not good :<
00:53:16  <Stablean> <V453000> :d
00:55:36  <leg3nd> whats stopping you to get one now :>
00:55:42  <leg3nd> oh yeah the time.
00:55:52  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont even want to :)
00:56:02  <leg3nd> hehe.
00:56:12  <Stablean> <Anson> 21 hours left to play on sunday :-) .... at least according to my watch :-)
00:56:24  <Stablean> <V453000> yes same time here
00:56:37  <leg3nd> :< yeah and then work :<
00:56:41  <Stablean> <V453000> is sunday better in some regard for playing? :D
00:57:00  <Stablean> <Anson> then monday starts, but does your work start at midnight ? :-) LOL
00:57:02  <leg3nd> if you have been drinking yeah.
00:57:22  <leg3nd> anson when it aint saturday or sunday anymore. its a work day.
00:57:39  <leg3nd> no mater what those hours are anoying :< work days are just anoying...
00:57:57  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, then you stop playing with trains and start WORK on your netWORK :-)
00:58:11  <leg3nd> hehe. i just play minecraft at work. :>
00:58:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
00:58:21  <V453000> omg brix :D
00:58:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I love minecraft :D
00:58:29  <V453000> that didnt really catch me
00:58:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :O
00:58:48  <leg3nd> BRIX is epic. but a shame my monitors can be seen by my boss.
00:58:53  <V453000> I really liked the first several hours when I discovered everything but when I saw everythin it was like ... hm.
00:59:03  <leg3nd> so have to be extra sneaky.
00:59:38  <V453000> I didnt really find any purpose "why" to build the stuff
01:00:15  <leg3nd> i guess you never had lego when you where a kid ?
01:00:25  <V453000> fucktons of lego
01:00:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
01:00:50  <leg3nd> build what you imagination desire.
01:01:09  <V453000> well, yeah, that just havent interested me too much
01:01:29  <leg3nd> i agree, but minecraft is a good time killer.
01:01:33  <Stablean> <Anson> do you know wiking ? cars for H0 trains ?
01:01:49  <V453000> I think it is quite similar to openttd in that regard, but I like openttd in that regard because it has some "aim" as making trains run well - nothing will tell you in minecraft if your construction is good or not
01:02:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Play online
01:02:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Other players will :)
01:02:23  <V453000> well if it is my imagination I dont give a fuck what hey will :D
01:02:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
01:02:43  <leg3nd> i agreen with you V, but still is a cool game. pretty original.
01:02:48  <Stablean> <Anson> i had lego when there were no "box sets" yet, only boxes of stones ... and i set up truck networks to transport my lego on the table, usiong lines on it as roads :-)
01:02:50  <leg3nd> that is what i like about it.
01:02:59  <V453000> original like no other, that is a fact. :)
01:03:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep and its ever improving (for now)
01:03:23  <leg3nd> im affraid there is gona come a MMORPG of minecraft eventuely.
01:03:28  <V453000> I do not say it is a bad game by any means, I just did not find the purpose for me :)
01:03:36  <V453000> :D World of Minecraft!
01:03:54  <leg3nd> its even comming to Xbox360
01:03:58  <Stablean> <Anson> any wow players here ?
01:04:05  <leg3nd> that is just WRONG in so many ways.
01:04:11  <V453000> :D
01:04:14  <V453000> hey it is "box"
01:04:17  <V453000> close to bridck
01:04:18  <V453000> brick
01:04:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I agree
01:04:20  <leg3nd> anson i where before
01:04:34  <V453000> my girlfriend played that shit too
01:04:55  <leg3nd> i stopede it since i got kicked out of school and lost a job because of it.
01:04:56  <Stablean> <Anson> i had too much to do in RL and paused a few months ... and now openTTD keeps me from going back :-)
01:05:08  <V453000> oh :D
01:05:44  <leg3nd> even tho is about 2 years ago i stop it. i still have some cravings to play it again.
01:06:00  <V453000> anyway, I will have to go sleep or I will die miserably.. so good night :p
01:06:03  <leg3nd> but then its good with Bad company 2, and some mindless games.
01:06:05  <V453000> hopefully without wow :P
01:06:20  <leg3nd> good night V sleep well
01:06:29  <Stablean> <Anson> g'n8
01:06:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> GN
01:06:42  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that works in most languages :-)
01:06:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats good nate?
01:06:56  <leg3nd> omg leetzor :>
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01:08:11  <leg3nd> oh nice irc on one screen Heroes of newerth stream on one. and then dreamhack SC2 stream on the next :>
01:08:20  <Stablean> <Anson> english n-eight (night), german n-acht (nacht), italian n-otto (notte), spanich n-ocho (noche), french n-huit (nuit), etc etc
01:08:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
01:09:29  <leg3nd> danish n-at (nat), swedish n-att natt)
01:09:37  <Stablean> <Anson> only difference is g vs b ... g = good/gute vs b = bon/buon/buenas/...
01:09:41  <leg3nd> more to you reputuare :>
01:11:28  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, since i upgraded my trains, mine production went from 450+550 to 550+720 :-)
01:11:46  <leg3nd> arr dont you just know when you have a craving after ben & jerry "coocky dough"
01:17:44  <leg3nd> lads good night.
01:17:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Night
01:17:51  <leg3nd> did not find any ben and jerry :>
01:17:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Unlucky :P
01:18:11  <leg3nd> yep better go to sleep then. hehe
01:18:18  <leg3nd> sleep well when you 2 get to that.
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01:35:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna go now bye
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02:07:41  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yo
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02:09:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 91 class being tested
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08:58:28  <Stablean> <Mks> what happend to green player?
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09:20:30  <V453000> died
09:20:44  <Stablean> <doonz> i died
09:20:49  <Stablean> <doonz> trololololol
09:21:00  <Stablean> <Mks> died how?
09:21:04  <Stablean> <doonz> nah
09:21:14  <Stablean> <doonz> my business got deleted because i wasnt transporting more than 50% passengers
09:21:20  <V453000> CB came and made himself an ass about the rules and doonz didnt react properly
09:21:32  <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh
09:21:46  <Stablean> <Mks> well your quite hard on the rules from time time yourself
09:21:58  <Stablean> <doonz> i probably should have just stayed but it was 6am and i was tired lol
09:22:00  <Stablean> <doonz> oh well
09:22:09  <V453000> usually for a reason thin Mks
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09:22:18  <V453000> though*
09:22:28  <Stablean> <V453000> and hi :p
09:22:30  <Stablean> <doonz> hi
09:22:40  <Stablean> <doonz> wheres the rule page?
09:22:40  <Stablean> <doonz> i went to !rules
09:22:42  <Stablean> <doonz> and theres nothing there
09:22:47  <Stablean> <V453000> yes there it is
09:22:53  <Stablean> <doonz> There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.
09:23:03  <Stablean> <doonz>
09:23:07  <Stablean> <doonz> oh
09:23:09  <Stablean> <doonz> fml
09:23:19  <Stablean> <V453000> hm :)
09:24:31  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm yeah i probably wasnt transporting over 50%
09:24:38  <Stablean> <V453000> yes most likely
09:24:46  <Stablean> <V453000> but that rule is very relative
09:24:57  <Stablean> <V453000> you did at least effort to transport some good amount
09:25:15  <Stablean> <V453000> and CB just acted like an ass cause he could
09:25:27  <Stablean> <doonz> i probably shouldnt have expanded so fast lol
09:25:33  <Stablean> <V453000> that too
09:25:43  <Stablean> <V453000> but mainly remember not to freak out whatever happens
09:25:49  <Stablean> <V453000> that doesnt solve the situation
09:26:11  <Stablean> <doonz> hehe yeah, it was mainly my fault, he probably wouldnt have just deleted my business if i didnt say the server is fucked :p
09:26:25  <Stablean> <Mks> on the other hand we now have a 61k city with no transportation what so ever
09:26:56  <Stablean> <V453000> yes that sucks
09:27:03  <Stablean> <Mks> you could delete it tho
09:27:17  <Stablean> <Mks> but might require a restart
09:27:17  <Stablean> *** doonz has started a new company (#1)
09:27:19  <Stablean> <V453000> very slowly
09:27:25  <Stablean> <Mks> magic buldoozer
09:27:31  <Stablean> <doonz> at least my coal mine is being used by phil ;D
09:27:34  <Stablean> <V453000> yes I know, but that would reset names aain
09:27:36  <Stablean> <doonz> 952 tonnes of coal per month
09:27:36  <Stablean> <doonz> :p
09:27:38  <Stablean> <V453000> *password
09:27:45  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh yes so mm not really good
09:27:59  <Stablean> <Mks> make a comp delete it and so on :P
09:27:59  <Stablean> <V453000> lets just wait for several years and get a new map
09:28:05  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah :P
09:28:25  <Stablean> <doonz> V, can a town grow without expanding?
09:28:37  <Stablean> <V453000> no, you need to provide it roads
09:28:52  <Stablean> <doonz> how can i make sure i transport over 50% if the range of my stations dont hit the town? ;/
09:28:58  <Stablean> <doonz> build more stations?
09:29:00  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:29:02  <Stablean> <V453000> very easily
09:29:05  <Stablean> <doonz> ahh
09:29:11  <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1
09:29:19  <Stablean> <V453000> mks may we have some cash please?
09:29:22  <Stablean> <Mks> make a city network to transfer passengers to your main station
09:29:36  <Stablean> <Mks> mm soon I Am broke atm
09:29:42  <Stablean> <V453000> oh wut
09:29:47  <Stablean> <V453000> I will tunnel someone
09:29:55  <V453000> !players
09:29:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 242 is TWerkhoven, a spectator
09:29:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 244 (Light Blue) is Mks, in company 8 (Mks Transport)
09:29:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 250 (Blue) is Phil, in company 2 (Phil Transport)
09:29:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 252 (Green) is doonz, in company 1 (doonz Transport)
09:29:57  <Stablean> V453000: Client 98 (Purple) is Anson, in company 3 (Anson Transport)
09:29:59  <Stablean> V453000: Client 254 (Green) is V453000, in company 1 (doonz Transport)
09:30:05  <V453000> !rcon move 254 5
09:30:06  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** V453000 has joined company #5
09:30:21  <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1
09:30:38  <Stablean> <V453000> lets find some nice town
09:30:48  <Stablean> <Mks> I even had a loan and couldn't afford to pay it back when you asked V :P
09:31:00  <Stablean> <V453000> we are fine :)
09:31:10  <Stablean> <doonz> whens the map reset, V?
09:31:13  <Stablean> <V453000> dunno, not now :p
09:31:17  <Stablean> <doonz> kk
09:41:57  <Stablean> <V453000> or there have to be at least 5 train stations in city center
09:46:54  <Stablean> <doonz> this
09:49:05  <Stablean> <V453000> everything is fine
09:52:21  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
09:52:25  <Stablean> <doonz> haha
09:58:51  <Stablean> <V453000> just make some of the smallest stations transfer to another bigger transfer station
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10:00:16  <Stablean> <Mks> mm how many trains can a 1x1 ML hold?
10:00:31  <Stablean> <V453000> one full line of trains? :)
10:00:45  <Stablean> <Mks> lol
10:00:47  <Stablean> <Mks> ofc
10:00:54  <Stablean> <Mks> but I don't wana build a 2x2 ML
10:01:04  <Stablean> <Phil> dpends how large your netowrk
10:01:32  <Stablean> <Mks> its basicilly not that large only 2 drops and 3 pickups at the moment
10:01:47  <Stablean> <Mks> soon 4 4
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10:02:02  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 1
10:02:02  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
10:02:16  <Stablean> <Phil> your line really long
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10:02:25  <Stablean> <Phil> so probably handle 100+ trains maybe
10:02:29  <Stablean> <Mks> I know
10:02:37  <Stablean> <Mks> probarbly more acually
10:02:43  <Stablean> <Mks> but not sure how much :P
10:03:07  <Stablean> <V453000> tbh saying how many trains can fit into X line or "OMG THIS STATION IS SERVED BY 200 TRAINS!" is totally stupid
10:03:21  <Stablean> <V453000> because exactly, the line could be 2000 tiles long with barely any trains on it
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10:03:31  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe I know
10:03:43  <Stablean> <Mks> but say a station has 100 trains/per minut
10:03:49  <Stablean> <V453000> which is why I said "one full line" which is really the only valid measure
10:03:59  <Stablean> <V453000> well that would be valid, but do you count it?
10:04:09  <Stablean> <Mks> no not really
10:04:12  <Stablean> <V453000> to set units as "one full line" is better
10:04:23  <Stablean> <V453000> because that "just works" :)
10:04:33  <Stablean> <Mks> true the problem is usually the line is only full parts of it
10:04:47  <Stablean> <V453000> fill it more? :d
10:05:25  <Stablean> <V453000> eventually expand the busy parts, not much to say about that :)
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10:40:30  <Stablean> <Mks> is there any station for papper?
10:42:34  <Stablean> <Phil> doesn't look like
10:42:42  <Stablean> <Phil> maybe use parcel office?
10:43:00  <Stablean> <Phil> which is part of chips set
10:44:32  <Stablean> <Mks> my compnay is finnaly making some money
10:45:09  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i see :)
10:47:35  <Stablean> <Phil> need shit, shower, shave and food
10:47:37  <Stablean> <Phil> bbs
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12:25:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
12:25:51  <Stablean> <Mks> hi
12:26:15  <Stablean> <Piet> hi
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12:26:31  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi
12:26:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey DD
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12:37:02  <Stablean> <Piet> can i build my own city??
12:37:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> As in make a new one?
12:37:29  <Stablean> <Piet> yes a new city
12:37:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope
12:37:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You can build up a current one though
12:39:05  <Stablean> <Piet> on my island... i can drive people but no buildings be happen
12:39:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Where?
12:40:05  <Stablean> <Piet> look on my building of my firm
12:40:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you mean where your HQ is then no you cant start a city from scratch
12:40:37  <Stablean> <Piet> oh ok...
12:41:01  <Stablean> <Piet> but what is with the people who i drive to my hq??
12:41:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dunno
12:41:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I never do that
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12:43:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Realy?
12:43:30  <Stablean> <doonz> hi
12:43:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Umm hi
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12:50:09  <Stablean> <doonz> ...
12:50:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
12:50:29  <Stablean> <doonz> sign !look
12:50:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well go around
12:51:48  <Stablean> <doonz> i built there first o.O
12:52:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So how comes DD's tracks were there first?
12:52:10  <Stablean> <doonz> they werent..
12:52:16  <Stablean> <doonz> i was just about to go around the water
12:52:19  <Stablean> <doonz> when he cut infront of me
12:52:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
12:52:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well you guys need to work something out then
12:53:22  <Stablean> <Piet> hey... can i now make a the city grown to my island?
12:53:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You have to wait piet
12:53:47  <Stablean> <Piet> kk...
12:53:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Towns cant make roads by themselves
12:53:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So you need to wait for it to spread on yours
12:54:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Will take a LONG while though...
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12:57:26  <Stablean> <Piet> yeah... a build at a bridge island...
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13:01:42  <Stablean> <Piet> the firs building on the island is in work
13:01:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
13:08:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> AFK 20 mins
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13:16:18  <V453000> hi :P
13:16:22  <Stablean> <doonz1> hi
13:16:33  <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hello
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13:16:43  <Stablean> <Piet> oh hello
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13:16:51  <leg3nd> hi
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13:42:28  <Stablean> <doonz> hi insulfrog
13:42:40  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hi all
13:43:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
13:43:47  <Stablean> <doonz> wb
13:43:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ty
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13:46:46  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hmm, i think flondingville has outgrown its station :)
13:47:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
13:47:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ugh still got that junction :'(
13:47:36  <Stablean> <insulfrog> i know it is a pain but there is very little room to expand
13:47:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well now there is :P
13:48:34  <Stablean> <insulfrog> well, not without doing something expensive and destructive
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13:48:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah but i meat before the town grew you had room :)
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13:49:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I meant before the town gre u had room
13:51:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> *to my own computer* don't start to mess about with me >:(
13:52:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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13:55:27  <Stablean> <Mks> MRd2DG how many are you in that company?
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13:55:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just me and Troy
13:55:49  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh
13:55:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Even though troy hasnt helped since the start :/
13:55:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> CB said hed join too
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13:56:19  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe
13:56:30  <Stablean> <insulfrog> grrr...several disconnects
13:56:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
13:56:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You turned full animation off?
13:56:46  <Stablean> <insulfrog> yes
13:56:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
13:57:12  <Stablean> <insulfrog> could be these newgrf
13:57:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well dunno, there are a lot of trains running here though
13:57:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What CPU do you have?
13:57:45  <Stablean> <insulfrog> 3 gig
13:57:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Model?
13:57:59  <Stablean> <insulfrog> intel
13:58:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
13:58:07  <Stablean> <insulfrog> (2 processors)
13:58:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I got a 2.93 single P4 and im doing fine with full animation
13:58:29  <Stablean> <insulfrog> ram...1 gig
13:58:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You running other stuff in the background?
13:58:48  <Stablean> <insulfrog> I'll have a look
14:00:11  <Stablean> <insulfrog> I just ended a few background tasks like openoffice and a few other bits
14:00:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well as far as i know OTTD cant use multiple cores so it should be fine
14:01:19  <Stablean> <insulfrog> does 2 seperate processors count as having 2 cores?
14:01:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont know
14:01:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Never really heard of having 2 seperate processors before...
14:06:56  <V453000> but certainly openttd uses only 1 core
14:15:00  <Stablean> <doonz> how can you raise the local authority of a town if they dont allow you to build road vehicles?
14:15:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Plant trees, bribe
14:15:12  <Stablean> <Mks> plant trees
14:15:27  <Stablean> <doonz> so just delete their trees and replant?
14:15:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
14:15:41  <Stablean> <doonz> thanks
14:15:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Make sure the area of deleted trees is big enough
14:15:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> To get a high rating
14:16:15  <Stablean> <insulfrog> as long as you don't delete all your infrastructure in the process :)
14:16:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
14:16:19  <Stablean> <doonz> haha
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14:16:43  <Stablean> <doonz> fail
14:17:18  <Stablean> <doonz> Sonhill is going good but Muburg is still appalling o.O
14:21:47  <Stablean> <insulfrog> that should help a bit around Flondingville station
14:25:44  <Stablean> <doonz> yay! very poor :p
14:25:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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14:35:16  <Stablean> <insulfrog> massive lag
14:35:25  <Stablean> <insulfrog> just for a few seconds
14:35:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I just got a bit
14:38:22  <Stablean> <doonz> YES!
14:38:46  <Stablean> <doonz> finally poor!
14:38:46  <Stablean> <doonz> ;D
14:38:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
14:39:14  <Stablean> <Mks> you want to be poor?
14:39:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> He means rating
14:40:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ugh transrapid doesnt fully convetr to gold :/
14:41:45  <Stablean> <Mks> what do you mean?
14:42:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I thought the transrapid would fully refit to gold
14:42:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only 2 carraiges do
14:42:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So 200 PAX 80 Gold :/
14:42:35  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe
14:42:38  <Stablean> <Mks> ouch
14:42:55  <Stablean> <insulfrog> it depends on how big the gold bars are :D
14:43:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Meh, waste of money
14:43:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Was planning to create a whole new transrapid network
14:43:34  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe transrapid works for goods
14:43:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i was gonna do that actually but cbe :P
14:43:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *cba
14:44:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb
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14:45:08  <Stablean> <doonz> hi piet
14:45:16  <Stablean> <Piet> hi
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14:45:39  <Stablean> <doonz> hi phil
14:45:49  <Stablean> <Phil> hello all :)
14:46:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
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14:47:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh hey Phil
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14:47:35  <Stablean> <Phil> hey there
14:48:12  <Stablean> <Phil> doesn't matter much
14:48:16  <Stablean> <doonz> kk
14:49:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anyone seen Troy today?
14:49:30  <Stablean> <Phil> nope
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15:03:25  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh you can use transrapid for food as well
15:03:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep thats whta im gonna to
15:03:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *do
15:03:43  <Stablean> <Mks> I made a goods line
15:04:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cba to relocate my goods so just gonna set up grain/stock by electric rail and food by transrapid
15:04:49  <Stablean> <Mks> I didn't relocate I just rebuild the pickup station :P
15:05:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:05:54  <Stablean> <Mks> I did have a to build a new line across the map tho
15:06:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah im gonna have to do that aswell
15:06:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Need the food plant to be far drop the drop
15:06:18  <Stablean> <Mks> that did cost alot
15:06:26  <Stablean> <insulfrog> well, at least Flodingville is starting to look better
15:06:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> still got a few traffic problems to sort out
15:08:46  <Stablean> <Mks> you do know you can't decide how long the transrapid goods train gona be right?
15:08:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:09:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I already designed to drop with TL5 stations and corners
15:09:16  <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh
15:09:25  <Stablean> <Mks> I just noticed I forgot to make the station tl 5 :P
15:09:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
15:10:35  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh loads a bit faster now
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15:14:34  <Stablean> <Mks> replaced 25 trains with 12 transrapid ones
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15:23:15  <Stablean> <Mks> whats the ratio on a papper mill?
15:23:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea
15:23:23  <Stablean> <Mks> like 100 timber 100 papper?
15:23:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont think its 1:1
15:23:33  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah seems 1:1 to me or close to it
15:23:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im sure the game has a formula to calculate ratios
15:24:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Station rating comes into it
15:24:15  <Stablean> <Phil> if i watch my paper mil pick up almost every train leaves 100%
15:24:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats the rating?
15:24:42  <Stablean> <Phil> 80%
15:24:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
15:25:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well im sure someone asked this before an V said rating has something to do with it
15:25:29  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah it does station rating affects how much cargo is sent from the industry to the station
15:25:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> At primaries
15:25:49  <Stablean> <Phil> so 1000 paper per month with 80% will be 800 pap sent
15:25:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
15:25:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats what i meant
15:26:23  <Stablean> <Phil> im fairly certain with a 100% station rating ever paper train would leave full
15:26:35  <Stablean> <Phil> there for cargo is a 1:1
15:26:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah but thats unlikely :)
15:26:54  <Stablean> <Phil> without new maglevs every 3 years it's impossible lol
15:26:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:28:07  <Stablean> <Phil> but still i think it's 1:1 base rate but yes station rating lowers it
15:28:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably but im sure ive heard some cargo definently dont have a 1:1 ratio
15:29:02  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah not all cargo do
15:29:08  <Stablean> <Phil> loads on firs don't
15:29:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah first doesnt
15:29:33  <Stablean> <Phil> not sure about artic vanilla indistries though
15:29:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> This junction is ripping though my funds
15:30:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 200mil so far :/
15:30:10  <Stablean> <insulfrog> puch
15:30:16  <Stablean> <insulfrog> *ouch
15:30:18  <Stablean> <Phil> where?
15:30:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Next to Little Wunfingridge
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15:31:02  <Stablean> <Phil> going to be another work of art i see
15:31:02  <Stablean> <insulfrog> hi dh2k3
15:31:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P I actually thing its one of the ugliest ive ever built
15:31:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
15:31:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yo
15:31:30  <Stablean> <Phil> helo dh
15:31:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> morning :)
15:31:51  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah but your ugliest > my prettiest haha
15:31:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
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15:33:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I'll still stick to the 91 Class it seems
15:33:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think i should have used the AL10
15:33:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Clas 91 is fast but acceleration seems crap even on TL3
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15:39:02  <Stablean> <Mks> need two locos
15:39:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:39:41  <Stablean> <Mks> I do two locos tl 4
15:43:13  <Stablean> <Mks> lol my company isn't worth much
15:43:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:46:39  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
15:46:43  <Stablean> <doonz> hello there
15:46:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
15:47:17  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to see those trains in action .... i use doubled class 91 on TL4 :-)
15:47:35  <Stablean> <Anson> they accelerate ok, and go uphill and downhill at max speed
15:48:10  <Stablean> <Anson> longer slopes after a stop are at least 140 or 180 km/h (instead of 80 with doubled streamliners :-)
15:48:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont think i could take the hit in capacity @ TL3
15:48:47  <Stablean> <Mks> the MTracl 'Coelacanth' is nicer but can't really carry much diffrent cargo
15:48:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep thats what im gonna use
15:49:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only need it for food anyway
15:49:23  <Stablean> <Mks> Mrd2dg how come noone of your trains are to old?
15:49:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i just saw that there are two faster trains .... the eurostar is for passengers only, but what about the wardale 604 ?
15:49:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea, auto replace is off
15:50:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The upgrade to Class 91 wasnt that long ago
15:50:15  <Stablean> <Mks> you can use the wardale for cargo
15:50:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably the reason
15:50:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :O
15:50:24  <Stablean> <Mks> wardale  604 that is
15:50:33  <Stablean> <Anson> i just bought one and added a wood wagon to it !
15:50:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh thats steam :/
15:50:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> HP ans TE on that trains suck
15:50:59  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah and mm steam locos are so long so
15:51:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah and its long
15:51:13  <Stablean> <Anson> but it looks a bit longer, and thus doubled engines would reduce the number of wagons by one or even two
15:51:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^ Would also struggle on hills
15:51:55  <Stablean> <Anson> the 604, when using no doubled engines ? probably
15:52:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well when doubled probably not
15:52:23  <Stablean> <Anson> most important on crowded tracks : acceleration after stopping
15:52:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But single definently, worse than the Class 91
15:52:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:53:07  <Stablean> <Anson> for acceleration, you would need three wardale instead of doubled class91
15:53:25  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe
15:53:29  <Stablean> <Anson> that would leave TL4 with 1 or at most 2 wagons :-) LOL
15:53:29  <Stablean> <Mks> not much room for wagons then
15:53:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:54:13  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh you can have 3 wagons with 3xwardale 604 on tl 3
15:55:33  <Stablean> <insulfrog> bbl , going to have some food :)
15:55:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
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15:56:04  <Stablean> <Anson> length of the wardale is 0.75 ... two locos and 5 wagons are exactly TL4, for only 150 tonnes of wood :-(
15:56:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:56:35  <Stablean> <doonz> could someone look at Sonhill please, my trains are trying to go into tracks that already have a train there
15:57:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im guessing the problem without even looking is PBS
15:57:20  <Stablean> <doonz> i dont have any PBS tho
15:57:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
15:57:30  <Stablean> <Mks> its due to bad siglnaing
15:57:32  <Stablean> <Phil> pre signal it
15:57:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Use pre signals
15:57:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill show you
15:57:57  <Stablean> <doonz> thats what i have
15:58:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No you have normal signals
15:58:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Look at mine
15:58:32  <Stablean> <doonz> oh
15:58:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Platforms should be the white signals
15:58:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Entrace is the horizontal ywllow
15:58:45  <Stablean> <Phil> thos eisgnals are combis
15:58:49  <Stablean> <Phil> u need exits
15:59:05  <Stablean> <Mks> combos works also
15:59:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hold control and click each entrance signal once
15:59:13  <Stablean> <Mks> but need entrance signal
15:59:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeha they do but its best to teach him the normal way first
15:59:28  <Stablean> <doonz> they are still doing it
15:59:36  <Stablean> <Mks> its cause you lack the entrance signal
15:59:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its because tou dont have entrance
15:59:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Look at my example
15:59:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
15:59:52  <Stablean> <doonz> oh
15:59:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Those are still combo actually
16:00:06  <Stablean> <doonz> should i always use white signal?
16:00:08  <Stablean> <Phil> wouldn't it be good practice to learn to use exits when only exits are eneed as using combis might cause problems inn certain situations?
16:00:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Keep cycling through until they are eactly like mine
16:00:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> For platforms use white
16:00:30  <Stablean> <doonz> i need more money to upgrade exit
16:00:32  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah in certain situations combos can cause problems
16:00:36  <Stablean> <Mks> not in this case thought
16:00:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
16:00:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Changing signals is free...
16:00:56  <Stablean> <Anson> vertical bars on signals indicate EXIT, not entry
16:00:58  <Stablean> <Phil> hold ctrl sand click signl 1 for entry
16:01:02  <Stablean> <Phil> 2 for exit
16:01:04  <Stablean> <doonz> no i mean to have more exits
16:01:06  <Stablean> <Phil> 3 for combi
16:01:10  <Stablean> <Anson> yellow bars indicate entry
16:01:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You can do that after
16:01:22  <Stablean> <Anson> thus vertical yellow is entry+exit = combo
16:01:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Copy ehat i built exactly...
16:01:26  <Stablean> <Phil> yello vertical ar e combis
16:01:44  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm
16:01:44  <Stablean> <doonz> lol
16:02:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Mind if i join your company quickly to fix it for you?
16:02:03  <Stablean> <doonz> ok
16:02:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You can change the pass after
16:02:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> K
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16:02:19  <Stablean> <doonz> thank you
16:02:21  <Stablean> <Phil> no 5 timees maybe
16:02:46  <Stablean> <doonz> so yellow for entry and white for exit?
16:02:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There
16:02:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> There are two yellow
16:02:54  <Stablean> <Mks> m2d2dg check my sign
16:02:56  <Stablean> <Phil> yellow side ways is entry
16:02:58  <Stablean> <Mks> next to that station
16:03:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The yellow with the horizontal is for entry
16:03:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
16:03:06  <Stablean> <Phil> white verttical is exit
16:03:18  <Stablean> <Phil> yellow vertical is combi
16:03:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ignore the vertical yellow for now
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16:03:31  <Stablean> <doonz> cool thanks ! :)
16:03:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just try and copy that layout and youll learn how to do it
16:04:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Can you see my sign?
16:04:26  <Stablean> <doonz> is Muburg Woods correct?
16:04:32  <Stablean> <doonz> oh
16:04:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
16:04:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Perfect :)
16:04:49  <Stablean> <doonz> but the two exit ones should be normal?
16:04:53  <Stablean> <Mks> yes
16:05:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
16:05:06  <Stablean> <doonz> like that?
16:05:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep :D
16:05:14  <Stablean> <doonz> cool, thanks :)
16:05:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only difference between PBS and presignals is that PBS lets multiple trains enter and exit at the same time
16:05:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You can use PBS for stations like that but just not along the whole line
16:05:55  <Stablean> <doonz> kk
16:06:05  <Stablean> <Phil> in both cases i'd move your track so the signal gap between the signal and station is shorter
16:06:11  <Stablean> <Anson> PBS is easier to set up and often requires one or two tiles and signals less
16:06:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
16:06:34  <Stablean> <Anson> but you are tempted to build without plan, and you can't do special tricks with signal logic
16:07:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i se no sense in doubled entry tracks
16:07:19  <Stablean> <Mks> you finnished your transrapid track yet?
16:07:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True with presignals no point
16:07:21  <Stablean> <doonz> should i delete it?
16:07:23  <Stablean> <Mks> MrD2?
16:07:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope :/
16:07:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still signallign the junction xD
16:07:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> For electric rails
16:07:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Havent even made the drop
16:07:55  <Stablean> <Anson> biggest problem : the sharp bends and long distance between crossing and station
16:07:55  <Stablean> <Mks> why are you even building that junction :P
16:08:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because i need electric trains to take wheat and stock to a new food plant station
16:08:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So i needed to make a 3 way so i can build to it
16:08:25  <Stablean> <doonz> so they should be there?
16:08:27  <Stablean> <doonz> like closer to the station?
16:09:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Basically doonz the type of station you built is called a terminus, for those stations you can use PBS as it makes trains entering/leaving faster
16:09:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And since you have 2 entrances PBS would work better
16:09:36  <Stablean> <doonz> kk
16:09:43  <Stablean> <doonz> but when i do a RoRo type station i should use those signals?
16:09:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes :D
16:10:05  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to have a buffer in front of the station, it must be roro, else trains will travel back and forth in that area and block the rail a long time
16:10:19  <Stablean> <Mks> acually if you have a really high traffic roro station pbs is slightly faster then pre signals :P
16:10:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True
16:10:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But if you split branches instead of having all platforms linked to one line it should be okay
16:11:20  <Stablean> <Mks> well you should always split if you have more then 4 I think
16:11:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
16:11:57  <Stablean> <Anson> that is the tempting advantage of PBS ... you can use it for 4-6 rails
16:12:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:12:09  <Stablean> <Anson> but when you want to extend it, it is messy
16:12:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dammit i was first earlier :P
16:13:05  <Stablean> <Phil> :P
16:13:34  <Stablean> <Mks> I have to few stations
16:13:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats a good layout doonz
16:13:54  <Stablean> <doonz> :D
16:14:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just a shame about the tight corners :'(
16:14:44  <Stablean> <doonz> better? ;D
16:14:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah :P
16:15:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 2 tiled corners are better than 1
16:15:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Though for maximum speed usually they should be the same length as your trains, but since yours are normally veyr long thats hard :P
16:15:57  <Stablean> <doonz> hehe im starting to use small trains now
16:16:10  <Stablean> <doonz> V talked me into it
16:16:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
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16:16:24  <Stablean> <Anson> 7 halftiles limit speed to 195
16:16:38  <Stablean> <Anson> that should be good enough near stations
16:17:18  <Stablean> <Anson> but 3 halftiles are 130, 2 are 110, and one tile is for speed 88 only
16:17:24  <Stablean> <Phil> one thing bugs me about small trains and that's if you have to a high a station rating it crashes your industry output
16:17:30  <Stablean> <Anson> (km/h, of course :-)
16:17:30  <Stablean> <Mks> mm transrapid slows down in curves that are same lenght as train?
16:17:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dunno fast trains normally break that rule
16:18:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im making mine 5 just incase :P
16:18:11  <Stablean> <Anson> the speed rules apply to ALL trains
16:18:21  <Stablean> <Mks> mine are 5 but train still seem to slow down
16:18:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
16:18:35  <Stablean> <Anson> monorail gets 50% higher speed in curves, and maglev 100% more
16:18:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh
16:18:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well then 3 tiles should be fine for it
16:18:54  <Stablean> <Anson> and "tilted trains" (don't know which they are) have a bonus of 20%
16:19:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep i know that
16:19:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Pendolino can tilt
16:19:40  <Stablean> <Anson> 3 halftiles in curves give 131 for normal trains, 196 for monorail, and 262 for maglev
16:19:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Both Costars too
16:20:12  <Stablean> <Mks> seems I need cl 6 on a 180 degree turn
16:20:42  <Stablean> <Anson> 5 halftiles would be a reasoable value if space is tight : 166, 250 and 333 for the three rail types
16:20:48  <Stablean> <Mks> no you always need cl 6
16:20:50  <Stablean> <Mks> damn
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16:22:10  <Stablean> <Anson> the curvelength (CL) is the number of halftiles (2 halftiles for vertical and horizontal rails, 1 for any diagonal) between 45 degree turns in the same direction
16:22:24  <Stablean> <Anson> an S-bend will not slow down trains in any way
16:23:01  <Stablean> <Anson> except if you have several of them in a row where the train touches two "same-direction-bended" 45 degree bends
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16:23:59  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to see the maximum that is possible with one big entry-cross on a terminus station, go to my station "Prowood Power Station"
16:24:23  <Stablean> <Anson> i think i almost maxed capacity there, for a construction with one big entry area
16:25:10  <Stablean> <Anson> it started as a 3 rail station with one entry and one exit ... done with PBS since that was fast and easy in the beginning
16:25:25  <Stablean> <Anson> now it would need a complete reconstruction and much more space
16:25:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I used PBS for all my terminals but i think i remade everything into RoRo so its all gone now
16:25:53  <Stablean> <Anson> thus try to do it with presignals from the start ... extensions later will be easier if planned correctly
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16:26:13  <Stablean> <doonz> well now i know
16:26:22  <Stablean> <Anson> MrD2, did you have a look at the powerplant drop ?
16:26:26  <Stablean> <doonz> ive always used pbs because i didnt know what the other signals did
16:26:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yours?
16:26:49  <Stablean> <Anson> Prowood Power Station
16:26:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah most people do doonz, I started playing OTTS before PBS was added
16:27:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 1mine anson just changing some track
16:27:13  <Stablean> <doonz> haha lucky :p
16:27:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I remember when PBS came it was amazing :D
16:27:35  <Stablean> <doonz> this is working heaps better
16:27:55  <Stablean> <Anson> i started playing TT when there was no TTD yet, and not even oneway signal, IIRC
16:28:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:28:17  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
16:28:48  <Stablean> <doonz> i played TTD but i pretty much only made 1 line trains. :p
16:28:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:29:37  <Stablean> <Anson> without oneway signals, it was good to disable "change direction in stations" ... thus you could force trains to the correct direction .... until one waited too long at a signal and turned around
16:29:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:29:55  <Stablean> <doonz> so what are the combo signals for?
16:30:13  <Stablean> <Anson> if you have a series of entry and exit signals, you can cascade them
16:30:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Basically they act as a mix between entry and exit
16:30:20  <Stablean> <doonz> oh ok
16:30:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill show you an example later
16:30:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> EAsier to show then say
16:30:35  <Stablean> <doonz> :)
16:30:56  <Stablean> <Anson> look at !COMBO for an example
16:31:14  <Stablean> <Anson> at that location, i split one rail into two because of space
16:31:47  <Stablean> <doonz> couldnt you just use the entry signal?
16:31:47  <Stablean> <Anson> the combo signal allows it to behave like an exit to the distribution in front of it, but further split the line like an entry signal
16:31:54  <Stablean> <doonz> oh
16:32:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> At your power plant now Anson
16:32:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Havent used PBS for a major drop in ages :P
16:32:22  <Stablean> <Anson> only an entry ? then it wouldn't be detected as possible exit by the other entry before it
16:32:54  <Stablean> <Anson> most of the time, two trains use that PBS at the same time
16:33:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah its not that slow
16:33:05  <Stablean> <Anson> sometimes only one, but also up to FOUR :-)
16:33:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:33:49  <Stablean> <doonz> im going to be so addicted to this game now :p
16:33:55  <Stablean> <Anson> there are a few tricks on that PBS :-)
16:34:14  <Stablean> <Anson> one trick is to set up simple PBS (not oneway)
16:34:26  <Stablean> <Anson> thus the trains already can turn and advance back to the crossing
16:35:03  <Stablean> <Anson> the next trick is to do that only on some rails, so that the penalty for "pasing signal from reverse" applies only to three rails
16:35:32  <Stablean> <Anson> thus the left two rails have kind of "priority choice" and most trains try to enter to those first two rails
16:35:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb
16:35:40  <Stablean> <doonz> oh i c
16:35:42  <Stablean> <Anson> it's better for faster exit later :-)
16:36:33  <Stablean> <Anson> and one important hint : only build rails which are necessary : if you add all possible vertical, horizontal and diagonal tracks, trains will drive in curves inside the crossing and block others
16:37:09  <Stablean> <doonz> so like how i have sonhill set up?
16:37:23  <Stablean> <Anson> best method : entry on one side, exit on the opposite side, and at most 3 or 4 tracks in the station
16:37:29  <Stablean> <Anson> then PBS works well
16:37:55  <Stablean> <doonz> does that method work better than the one i have set up?
16:38:27  <Stablean> <Anson> with presignals, it looks good now ... a pair of rails has one entry and one exit
16:38:37  <Stablean> <Anson> and two such pairs are added together
16:38:44  <Stablean> <Anson> with bridges or tunnels
16:39:27  <Stablean> <Anson> with PBS, the entry to your station would be MUCH simpler ... but fail completely when more trains use it or you extend the station by more tracks
16:39:53  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm yeah
16:39:57  <Stablean> <doonz> it looks better this way too
16:40:59  <Stablean> <Anson> to extend your station from 4 to 6 rails, you only need to copy the exiting principle one more time and connect with tunnels/bridges
16:41:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Back
16:41:25  <Stablean> <doonz> cool thanks :)
16:41:32  <Stablean> <doonz> so later i can extend it easily
16:42:27  <Stablean> <Anson> if possible, i would avoid the right track in the station and add more on the left side ... less curves at the entrance
16:42:45  <Stablean> <doonz> i had to do it like that
16:42:59  <Stablean> <doonz> its right next to the water
16:43:07  <Stablean> <Anson> when you remove part of the station, remember to use the bulldozer and NOT the bomb
16:43:36  <Stablean> <Anson> bulldozer allows removing single tiles from it, while the bomb deletes all parts of it (including bus stops etc)
16:43:53  <Stablean> <Anson> do you see where i built a rail ?
16:43:55  <Stablean> <doonz> awesome
16:43:55  <Stablean> <doonz> yes
16:44:01  <Stablean> <doonz> i need to wait for trains to stop
16:44:04  <Stablean> <Anson> building there is cheap
16:44:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> My forest just seemed to explode in prodction :/
16:45:08  <Stablean> <Anson> CTRL-CLICK on a train to stop it
16:45:21  <Stablean> <doonz> :D
16:45:23  <Stablean> <Anson> stop just one on the entry lane and the other queue behind it
16:45:42  <Stablean> <doonz> should i just delete and rebuild?
16:46:08  <Stablean> <Anson> can you remove the rightmost track in the station ?
16:46:22  <Stablean> <Anson> then you can get all pairs of rails straight
16:46:42  <Stablean> <doonz> but then it'll handle less trains
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16:47:19  <Stablean> <Anson> just add one rail on the other side
16:47:21  <Stablean> <doonz> i want to keep it at 4 platforms
16:47:38  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, like that :-)
16:48:07  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : you should be able to build where you bought land, without deleting something first
16:48:51  <Stablean> <Anson> STOP
16:49:00  <Stablean> <doonz> :p
16:49:02  <Stablean> <Anson> ouch ... that was costly
16:49:10  <Stablean> <doonz> i dont have enough money
16:49:12  <Stablean> <doonz> its ok
16:49:12  <Stablean> <doonz> lol
16:49:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You need monies? :P
16:49:33  <Stablean> <doonz> its fine i have enough, just not enough to delete water and waste it :)
16:49:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok well if you're sure
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16:50:50  <Stablean> <doonz> y?
16:51:12  <Stablean> <doonz> coudl you delete track
16:52:22  <Stablean> <doonz> its okay i can expand the other way
16:52:34  <Stablean> <doonz> why do i need to change bridge?
16:53:51  <Stablean> <Anson> at the bridge, you connected the rails
16:54:09  <Stablean> <Anson> when i started to type it, they all were off by one
16:54:15  <Stablean> <doonz> oh
16:54:34  <Stablean> <doonz> thanks for your help :)
16:55:25  <Stablean> <Anson> old and new pairs ... of course need a new connection to entry and exit
16:56:28  <Stablean> <Anson> suggestion for a small improvement (my oponion only)
16:56:36  <Stablean> <Anson> reverse left and right for one pair
16:56:56  <Stablean> <Anson> then you can put the splitter directly in front of the station
16:57:43  <Stablean> <doonz> so both middle lines as entry?
16:58:33  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... then you can have one line up to that entry instead of splitting before the bridge
16:59:12  <Stablean> <Anson> you see that your trains queue up in the area between first splitter and the two entries ?
16:59:20  <Stablean> <doonz> yes
17:00:12  <Stablean> <Anson> else the system won't work
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17:00:29  <Stablean> <doonz> what are no block signals?
17:00:42  <Stablean> <doonz> those ones?
17:01:01  <Stablean> <Anson> block is the normal signal, for just a single block, without enter/exit/pre/path/etc
17:01:39  <Stablean> <Anson> ENTRY will allow trains only to enter when at least one rails is unused ... that is the intention
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17:02:00  <Stablean> <Anson> but to make it work, the next signal after the presignal has to be a combo or exit signal
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17:05:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb
17:05:49  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm
17:06:05  <Stablean> <Anson> i just set up a small piece of track with labels for entry and exit ... now you also see what combo means
17:06:16  <Stablean> <doonz> so you use combo to split line?
17:06:53  <Stablean> <Anson> at that place, you would need an entry signal for 2a/2b anmd at the same time, it is an exit for the first entry signal
17:07:03  <Stablean> <Anson> thus combo = both :-)
17:07:29  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm
17:07:30  <Stablean> <doonz> haha
17:07:31  <Stablean> <Anson> you split lines with one entry and 2+ exit signals
17:07:35  <Stablean> <doonz> this is all too confusing to be honest
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17:07:53  <Stablean> <doonz> ok that makes sense
17:07:53  <Stablean> <Anson> but if you want to split one of the legs firther down the track, you need the combo
17:08:11  <Stablean> <Anson> just watch it in action ...
17:08:17  <Stablean> <Mks> anyone know how to build full speed mergers?
17:08:27  <Stablean> <doonz> so the first time you split the line you dont need a combo?
17:08:36  <Stablean> <doonz> but when you split a line that has already been split you need a combo?
17:08:38  <Stablean> <Phil> do you mean cyclotrons?
17:08:56  <Stablean> <Anson> when exit 2a and exit 2b are red, the combo will be red and then be treated just like a red exit signal by the first entry signal
17:09:02  <Stablean> <Mks> not sure what I mean :P
17:09:08  <Stablean> <Phil> lol
17:09:12  <leg3nd> hehe
17:09:40  <Stablean> <Mks> seems my main line starting to get crowded but mm its to much work to rebuild it to 2x2
17:10:43  <Stablean> <Phil> cyclotrons are a bit of track in a circle that give way to a prio. it allows the joinin train to maintain full speed and only merge when it wont slow down any oncoming train
17:10:51  <Stablean> <doonz> haha i cant see
17:10:51  <Stablean> <Phil> search for them on utueb
17:11:02  <Stablean> <Phil> they work well,  but are hard to build
17:11:11  <Stablean> <Anson> you can remove all labels, not only your own
17:11:31  <Stablean> <leg3nd> mrd2dg you need a longer prio
17:11:31  <Stablean> <doonz> like that?
17:11:50  <Stablean> <leg3nd> arr cant add sign :<
17:11:56  <Stablean> <doonz> remove that one too?
17:12:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Back
17:12:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just spent most of my money :D
17:12:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only 30 mil left :/
17:12:31  <Stablean> <doonz> wow!
17:12:35  <Stablean> <doonz> how did you spend it all? o.O
17:12:43  <Stablean> <doonz> you had billions :p
17:12:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Bridges :P
17:12:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I had 500mill+
17:12:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> In pounds
17:13:01  <Stablean> <doonz> oh ok
17:13:19  <Stablean> <doonz> bridges must cost alot :/
17:13:21  <Stablean> <leg3nd> mrd2dg
17:13:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
17:13:34  <Stablean> <Mks> he does some water tf I think
17:13:38  <Stablean> <Mks> thats crazy expensive
17:13:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well it was mainly the water TF :P
17:13:44  <Stablean> <leg3nd> can you take a look at the prio at exit from Fluninghall forrest
17:14:10  <Stablean> <leg3nd> cramping you mainline a bit.
17:14:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im there
17:14:17  <Stablean> <Anson> now watch the signals changing ...
17:14:37  <Stablean> <Anson> both combo are green since there is at least one rail unused
17:14:46  <Stablean> <leg3nd> need a longer prio.
17:14:48  <Stablean> <Anson> third train there, and combo changes to red
17:14:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah
17:15:06  <Stablean> <Anson> which works as a red exit to the first ENTRY
17:16:00  <Stablean> <doonz> so that entry signal will only go green when both those lines are free?
17:16:08  <Stablean> <Anson> best to save this game and later look at it offline, using pause/unpause/pause/unpause to see everything changing in slow motion :-)
17:16:38  <Stablean> <leg3nd> And now follow the line up again
17:16:56  <Stablean> <leg3nd> from the exit. of the mainline. you get some semi jams at the 2 overpassing brigdes.
17:17:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I noticed that too :/
17:17:24  <Stablean> <leg3nd> prio still not ling enough
17:17:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And i cant see any signal gaps
17:17:34  <Stablean> <Anson> to see the effect, you can temporarily stop the trains in the station or on the crossing in front of it
17:17:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
17:18:01  <Stablean> <leg3nd> hehe
17:18:05  <Stablean> <doonz> i cant see the entry signal change though
17:18:22  <Stablean> <leg3nd> the prio still dont work right :>
17:18:26  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: bridges are not very costly, at least as long as they are on land and you don't terraform water for the bridgeheads :-)
17:18:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just noticed signal facing wrong way
17:18:43  <Stablean> <leg3nd> hehe
17:18:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wait
17:19:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Should be fine now
17:19:33  <Stablean> <leg3nd> the prio is good now
17:19:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still jammy at those bridges
17:19:50  <Stablean> <leg3nd> but man that area is wierd. the exist of ML inter 2.
17:19:56  <Stablean> <leg3nd> is jamming also .
17:20:00  <Stablean> <Anson> it was too small ... your signals were entry, not combo
17:20:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know
17:20:12  <Stablean> <doonz> oh lol
17:20:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I really dont know whats causing the slowdown..
17:20:22  <Stablean> <Anson> i always need a magnifying glass to see that :-)
17:20:33  <Stablean> <doonz> :)
17:20:57  <Stablean> <leg3nd> its wied yeah.
17:21:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably the join further up
17:21:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna need to extend all my prios
17:21:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Accel of these trains isnt very good
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17:21:41  <Stablean> <doonz> so they should be combo?
17:21:51  <Stablean> <leg3nd> seams to run nice now
17:21:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
17:22:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well for now :P Brb a min
17:22:56  <Stablean> <Anson> now watch the signals
17:23:07  <Stablean> <doonz> why does the train sptop
17:23:12  <Stablean> <doonz> stop*
17:23:22  <Stablean> <Phil> because the block was full
17:23:35  <Stablean> <Anson> train at entry is waiting since both pairs are used
17:23:43  <Stablean> <doonz> but they arent
17:23:43  <Stablean> <Phil> no
17:23:47  <Stablean> <doonz> look
17:23:49  <Stablean> <doonz> its stoppin
17:23:59  <Stablean> <Phil> watch my signs
17:24:06  <Stablean> <Anson> the distance is too big
17:25:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
17:25:32  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah doonz
17:25:34  <Stablean> <doonz> welcome back
17:25:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
17:25:40  <Stablean> <Phil> your signal gaps are too big
17:25:43  <Stablean> <doonz> thanks
17:25:45  <Stablean> <Phil> wb :)
17:26:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
17:26:06  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm
17:26:10  <Stablean> <leg3nd> BRB need to install original grf.
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17:26:44  <Stablean> <doonz> so for combo to work the line needs to be shorter?
17:27:25  <Stablean> <Phil> track length has no baring
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17:27:40  <Stablean> <leg3nd> There back
17:27:40  <Stablean> <Anson> to work FAST, it needs to be short
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17:28:03  <Stablean> <Phil> but because there was no signals quite short after the slip both line on the slit were considered the same block and thus stopped trains when the coast was clear
17:28:05  <Stablean> <Anson> like with all signals ... big distance, long time to get there
17:28:15  <Stablean> <Phil> slip = split
17:29:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Want to join me legend?
17:29:23  <Stablean> <leg3nd> sure
17:29:31  <Stablean> <doonz> so they both need to be combo?
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17:29:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Sorta eating atm so im not really building
17:30:11  <Stablean> <leg3nd> bare with me, its been over ½ year since okay :>
17:30:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
17:30:19  <Stablean> <Phil> no don'yt make them both combis
17:30:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i was planning to set up a food processing plant/station
17:30:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You can do it if you want
17:30:48  <Stablean> <doonz> wait what
17:30:57  <Stablean> <doonz> why am i making them combo
17:31:03  <Stablean> <Phil> if you make them both combies when a train is leaving the sttaion both combies will be red and stop a train from potentially join a free split
17:31:09  <Stablean> <Phil> so don't do it
17:31:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just continue the line from the bridges as far as possible
17:31:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or far enough to make a nice profit
17:31:36  <Stablean> <Phil> anson you're wrong about the combies
17:31:58  <Stablean> <leg3nd> will get to that. right now im trying to fix your brigde problem at exit
17:32:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
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17:34:15  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Omg that train is fucked
17:34:23  <Stablean> <leg3nd> it aint moving anywhere.
17:34:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Electic rail
17:34:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
17:34:47  <Stablean> <leg3nd> hehe
17:35:54  <Stablean> <doonz> is that normal entry one?
17:35:54  <Stablean> <doonz> horizontal?
17:35:58  <Stablean> <doonz> at the front
17:36:00  <Stablean> <Phil> yes
17:36:13  <Stablean> <Phil> next 2 are combies
17:36:19  <Stablean> <Phil> last lot are exit
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17:36:56  <Stablean> <doonz> cool
17:37:12  <Stablean> <doonz> it stops though
17:37:22  <Stablean> <doonz> i think it was working better the other way
17:37:28  <Stablean> <Phil> it weill from time to time
17:37:32  <Stablean> <Anson> of course ... when all rails in the station are full :-)
17:37:34  <Stablean> <Phil> when the block is full
17:38:01  <Stablean> <doonz> hmm
17:38:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Those bridges arent in sync :P
17:38:08  <Stablean> <doonz> so confusing haha
17:38:16  <Stablean> <leg3nd> getting ti it :>
17:38:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oki :)
17:38:31  <Stablean> <Phil> wait until the trains stagger and it should be ok
17:39:09  <Stablean> <leg3nd> and signal gap :>
17:39:13  <Stablean> <Phil> other staion needs fixing
17:39:14  <Stablean> *** Piet joined the game
17:39:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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17:39:58  <Stablean> <Anson> but only for a short moment
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17:40:54  <Stablean> <Anson> it is going uphill at ONE km/h
17:41:06  <Stablean> <leg3nd> something really wrong on that brigde.
17:41:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know :/
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17:41:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I have no idea why trains are randomly slowing
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17:42:09  <Stablean> <leg3nd> give no sence really
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17:42:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
17:42:35  <Stablean> *** Wolf has left the game (connection lost)
17:42:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh thnks Phl
17:42:59  <Stablean> <Phil> np :)
17:44:05  <Stablean> <Phil> or pbs or whatever?
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17:46:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah why exits there legend?
17:46:29  <Stablean> <leg3nd> you mean at the brigdees ?
17:46:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
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17:46:59  <Stablean> <leg3nd> actuely dont really remmber. you keep the entry exit role :>
17:47:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
17:47:09  <Stablean> <leg3nd> as i did say been a while sincei  played :>
17:47:26  <Stablean> <Phil> add that signal that's missing and that bridge will work
17:47:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And Phil that gap shouldnt matter is the bridge s were functioning properly
17:47:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *if
17:47:52  <Stablean> <Piet> gehts
17:47:55  <Stablean> <Phil> oh
17:47:59  <Stablean> <Wolf> jap
17:48:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I do it like that on all my bridges/tunnels and its works fine
17:48:31  <Stablean> <leg3nd> i really cant see how to fix this now :<
17:48:33  <Stablean> <Wolf> wieso kostet es jez 400k bei stadt gebäude finanzieren?
17:48:43  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah because the bridges are 3 gap anyway
17:48:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Neither can I :/
17:48:45  <Stablean> <Phil> i see
17:48:57  <Stablean> <Piet> ^^für dich halt wois au net warum
17:49:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maybe its the trains?
17:49:16  <Stablean> <Piet> ne du musch geld umstellen
17:49:22  <Stablean> <Wolf> achso ich hab Euro
17:49:24  <Stablean> <Wolf> und du dollar?
17:49:28  <Stablean> <Wolf> oder Pfun
17:49:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But then again sometimes it works fine
17:49:30  <Stablean> <Wolf> *Pfund
17:49:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wolf speak English
17:49:34  <Stablean> <Piet> bei spieleinstellungn auf englische pfund
17:49:42  <Stablean> <Wolf> i speak with Piet
17:49:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well do it privately
17:49:52  <Stablean> <Mks> speak privatley then
17:50:02  <Stablean> <Piet> how?
17:50:08  <Stablean> <Piet> /team
17:50:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You're supposed to speak English publicly here...
17:50:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not teak
17:50:22  <Stablean> <Piet> /team
17:50:25  <Stablean> <Piet> -team
17:50:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Open the client list then click Wolfs name then choose private message
17:50:35  <Stablean> <Phil> hold ctrl and press return
17:50:40  <Stablean> <Mks> press ctrl+enter to speak in the comany
17:50:42  <Stablean> <Phil> then type your message
17:50:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or that if you're in the same company
17:50:58  <Stablean> <Piet> mann muss da auf
17:51:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
17:51:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Before press enter to open the chat box hold CTRL
17:51:35  <Stablean> <Wolf> thanks...
17:51:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
17:51:39  <Stablean> <Piet> thanks for instructions
17:52:37  <Stablean> <Phil> haha i see
17:52:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They go 160mph
17:53:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Trains are 140
17:53:05  <Stablean> <Phil> oh
17:53:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
17:53:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its a mystery....
17:53:41  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Arr crappy brigde :<
17:54:01  <Stablean> <insulfrog> make sure it's not a wodden bridge :)
17:54:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think best thing to do is tunnel the mege line and make the bridge line normal
17:54:11  <Stablean> <leg3nd> HAHAHA
17:54:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
17:54:32  <Stablean> <leg3nd> it aint :>
17:54:49  <Stablean> <leg3nd> and now it flows.
17:54:51  <Stablean> <leg3nd> WTF
17:54:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL
17:55:07  <Stablean> <Phil> told you
17:55:15  <Stablean> <Phil> must have been slow bridesa no?
17:55:23  <Stablean> <Phil> oh no
17:55:25  <Stablean> <leg3nd> nah it aint.
17:55:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
17:55:29  <Stablean> <Phil> broke again
17:55:29  <Stablean> <leg3nd> and now it jams again :>
17:55:31  <Stablean> <leg3nd> haha WTF
17:55:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Erm doonz is that line electrified?
17:55:58  <Stablean> <doonz> LOL
17:56:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
17:56:08  <Stablean> <doonz> :(
17:56:08  <Stablean> <doonz> haha
17:56:10  <Stablean> <doonz> fml.
17:56:14  <Stablean> <doonz> thanks mate
17:56:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cant count how many times ive done that too :P
17:56:36  <Stablean> <doonz> :p
17:56:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb
18:01:11  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... i have that disabled ... building only electric, and the wires would obscure my sight on the signals
18:01:34  <Stablean> <doonz> you can disable it?
18:02:09  <Stablean> <Mks> well you can disable erail
18:02:11  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Hmm MrD2DG
18:02:17  <Stablean> <leg3nd> this dont work 100% either
18:02:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk-ish
18:02:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
18:02:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Maybe theres some sorta bug
18:02:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because ive noticed ghost slowdowns on other parts of the network
18:02:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> This is the old UKRS after all
18:03:03  <Stablean> <leg3nd> But think it helps a bit to split to the lines
18:03:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
18:03:29  <Stablean> <Phil> move exit closer to split then place 1 block signal 43 tiles from entry
18:03:41  <Stablean> <Phil> 3 tile
18:04:11  <Stablean> <Phil> i'd remove the left splt too
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18:05:28  <Stablean> <Phil> i'd remove those two
18:05:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TBH The join i made at the Printing Works does a crappy job of dividing the traffic properly anyway, I think if that was corrected then the slowdown would dissapear
18:05:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> As traffic woudl be spread better
18:06:37  <Stablean> <Phil> remove those 2 block signal
18:08:00  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Hmm you think its bad added the splitter +0
18:08:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yo
18:08:16  <Stablean> *** insulfrog has left the game (connection lost)
18:08:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
18:08:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just tunnel the merge line?
18:08:34  <Stablean> <dh2k3> well so far no jams :D
18:08:57  <Stablean> *** insulfrog joined the game
18:09:14  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Hmm be my guest to change ofc. im still way to rusty for tihs :>
18:09:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol i genuinely think its some sort of bug
18:09:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Your an old school coop'er you guys dont get rusty :P
18:09:58  <Stablean> <leg3nd> im not that old school
18:10:21  <Stablean> <leg3nd> think my first game where the PSR 175
18:10:39  <Stablean> <leg3nd> so never really played that much. and V where constaly after me :>
18:10:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm i dont rember mine :P
18:10:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I'm starting to like this server
18:10:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Starting?
18:10:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
18:11:23  <Stablean> <dh2k3> used to be an admin years ago until the server shut down
18:11:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Here?
18:11:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> no another server
18:11:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cant be here
18:11:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
18:11:49  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Brb smoke time
18:11:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Ok
18:13:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> monorail is out I see
18:13:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
18:13:45  <Stablean> <dh2k3> um
18:13:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> question
18:13:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
18:13:54  <Stablean> <dh2k3> competition ok?
18:14:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Competition?
18:14:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you mean STEALING
18:14:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No
18:14:10  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k
18:14:12  <Stablean> <dh2k3> found one
18:14:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> an admins on?
18:14:45  <Stablean> <Anson> if you have a station with two rails, you can use it, or you can use entry/exit to get some training :-)
18:14:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont know
18:15:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why?
18:15:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> stealing :(
18:15:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Who?
18:15:22  <Stablean> <dh2k3> see my sign :(
18:15:53  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Well that works :>
18:15:57  <Stablean> <Mks> who is stealing?
18:16:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Stealing what?
18:16:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> green off of brown
18:16:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
18:16:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wood
18:16:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Day Dreamer you there?
18:16:25  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh
18:16:31  <Stablean> <Mks> who was there first tho?
18:16:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> brown
18:16:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Brown i think
18:16:41  <Stablean> <Wolf> where do you mean?
18:16:49  <Stablean> <dh2k3> see !stealing
18:16:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> DD is a good player, never seen him steal befre.
18:16:57  <Stablean> <Wolf> where?
18:17:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not your brown Wolf
18:17:07  <Stablean> <Wolf> oh k.
18:17:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Actually is it?
18:17:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lennign Oil Wells
18:17:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *Lenningwell
18:17:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> any admins on?
18:17:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Call one
18:18:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> .!admin
18:18:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Without the .
18:18:16  <Stablean> <dh2k3> thought legend was one
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18:18:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Dont think he is
18:18:44  <Stablean> <leg3nd> no no im a rockie
18:19:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ah rookie ok :)
18:19:19  <planetmaker> what is it?
18:19:28  <Stablean> <dh2k3> planet check !stealing
18:20:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That should be fine
18:21:50  <Stablean> <dh2k3> planet?
18:22:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BRB
18:23:03  <Stablean> <leg3nd> gotta go fix the laundry.
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18:23:37  <Stablean> <Mks> anson you here?
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18:25:40  <Stablean> <Mks> anson ???
18:25:48  <Stablean> <Mks> could you make a bridge longeR?
18:25:50  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ?
18:26:02  <Stablean> <Mks> or build tunnels I'll pay for it
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18:26:42  <Stablean> <Mks> there is a sign
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18:28:11  <Stablean> <Anson> found it ... checking it ...
18:28:51  <Stablean> <Anson> seems like i have to work a nit to do it ... CL is exactly 7 on both sides and i have TL 4, planning on 5 ...
18:35:58  <Stablean> <Mks> thnx alot
18:38:22  <Stablean> <Anson> will need big reconstruction later when i get back from AFK
18:38:47  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh yes a bit to fix the curves
18:38:59  <Stablean> <Anson> now has single bridges with length 6, next to tight curves with CL 3
18:39:39  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe we both can change it ... your tracks might be well one level lower and my bridges won't be 2 above the plane
18:40:12  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh I can lower it
18:40:30  <Stablean> <Anson> 2 rails already are low on both sides :-)
18:40:46  <Stablean> <Mks> can't do it without you removing the bridges tho
18:41:22  <Stablean> <Anson> one more please ... need double bridges now
18:41:37  <Stablean> <Mks> can't lower it more on one of the sides
18:41:43  <Stablean> <Mks> due to tunnel in the way
18:42:09  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh that I can do
18:42:22  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks ... looks prettier now too :-)
18:42:51  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah only the curves left to fix tho
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18:45:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Got disconnected :/
18:46:44  <Stablean> <Anson> AFK now
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18:46:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> here i am
18:46:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Look who it is :P
18:47:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> It is I
18:47:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Leclerc
18:47:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:48:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Was just gonna set up a food plant
18:48:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> food glorious food
18:48:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:49:00  <Stablean> <insulfrog> don't forget to water it :p
18:49:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Need to add more platforms to paper mill first though
18:56:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> MrD2DG's holding company? :P
18:56:29  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hmm need to somehow reconfigure this junction
18:56:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> your name should be there, now shouldnt it :P
18:57:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is odd dh2k3
18:57:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yo DD
18:57:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> He hasnt been speaking...
18:57:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what's going on at !here and !here2?
18:58:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> DD isnt the stealing type, so there must be an explanation
18:58:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats what i said
18:58:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Technically in the rules STEALING @ primaries is allow, but V bans people for it now...
18:58:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Think it needs to be changed
18:59:55  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hmm need to figure out this junction
19:00:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> anybody have any ideas for !helpme ?
19:00:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If its a PBS junction then no
19:00:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it is
19:00:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/ How many times have people advised him against those...
19:01:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> it's a PBS junction/level crossing
19:01:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you should stop making your crossings level
19:01:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> tell that to America :P
19:01:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> figure it out yourself
19:01:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you probably have the best idea where the trains com from and where they're going to
19:01:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> What happened to all the trains?
19:02:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who built all those roads
19:02:25  <Stablean> <insulfrog> beeching strikes again troy?
19:02:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> beeching?
19:02:59  <Stablean> <insulfrog> Doctor Beeching, our public enemy number 1
19:03:19  <Stablean> <insulfrog> taken up more than half of the UK's railways
19:03:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah
19:03:27  <Stablean> <insulfrog> to scrap
19:03:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, not closing them down
19:03:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I need to replace trains, but cant autoreplace
19:03:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so need to do that manually
19:03:59  <Stablean> <insulfrog> there is an option...
19:04:17  <Stablean> <dh2k3> crash :(
19:04:23  <Stablean> <insulfrog> do you see the train icon on the top bar?
19:04:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know that one
19:04:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the idea is:
19:04:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I need to replace 5 wagons for 6
19:04:53  <Stablean> <insulfrog> it can replace wagons too :)
19:04:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
19:05:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it cannot ADD wagons
19:05:07  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear crash thanks for happening
19:05:09  <Stablean> <insulfrog> aahh
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19:09:41  <Stablean> <Wolf> i han noch keine signale gmacht
19:09:45  <Stablean> <Wolf> sry
19:09:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol its okay
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19:11:54  <Stablean> <doonz> hey guys could you check sign !help to see if i have done combo signals right, im still not 100% sure how to do them
19:12:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That looks okay doonz
19:12:26  <Stablean> <doonz> cool thanks mate
19:12:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Actually
19:12:40  <Stablean> <doonz> do i need the horizontal entry one under the bridge?
19:12:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats what i was ust looking at
19:12:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its an entry or combo?
19:13:02  <Stablean> <insulfrog> looks like a combo
19:13:02  <Stablean> <doonz> entry
19:13:10  <Stablean> <doonz> the one under bridge is entry
19:13:14  <Stablean> <insulfrog> or is it entry...can't tell
19:13:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Entry ruins the flow
19:13:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Id either leave as a combo or seperate the blocks
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19:13:46  <Stablean> <insulfrog> or you can do away with presignals and use PBS instead
19:13:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> As in make the first set 1 entry and 2 exit then to this again at the platforms
19:14:05  <Stablean> <doonz> instead of using combo?
19:14:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah because then combo blocks get to big it just slows everything down
19:14:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But that should work fine if the one under the bridge is a combo
19:14:51  <Stablean> <doonz> just changed it to combo
19:14:58  <Stablean> <doonz> thanks
19:15:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Np
19:15:10  <Stablean> <insulfrog> sorry, i just don't use pre-signals anymore since PBS was introdiced in the stable rleased of ottd
19:15:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
19:15:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not good to fall into that habit
19:15:41  <Stablean> <doonz> im trying to avoid using pbs
19:15:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
19:15:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> V would be proud :P
19:15:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> I have very little trouble with it
19:16:00  <Stablean> <doonz> :p
19:16:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> thats because your junctions are extremely simple frog
19:16:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> what about mine?
19:16:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But when they get busy and trains get confused you'll see the light
19:16:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> jams :(
19:17:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> dh you just need to try a loose the 45 degree corners @ stations
19:17:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> especially since you like using long trains
19:17:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Very slow
19:17:22  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 45's were allowed back in the days I was taught :S
19:17:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you want a train to go at full speed generally the corner length should match the train length
19:18:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 7 Tile trains are crippled on 1 tile corners :)
19:18:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> :S
19:18:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(clcalc erail 251)
19:18:17  <Webster> Stablean: Required CL for rail at 251km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL
19:18:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^ See
19:18:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Webster is always right :D
19:18:40  <Stablean> <insulfrog> since realistinc acceleration was introduced to the server, you need to make your corners as loose as space allows for the highest possible speed of trains
19:18:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
19:21:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Jesus brown 12 tiles trains
19:21:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tl12?
19:21:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
19:22:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> With 1Tile corners
19:22:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Schnell & Teuer?
19:22:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Uh huh
19:22:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> very Teuer, not very Schnell
19:22:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Mhhm
19:22:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Teuer= expensive, Schnell = fast
19:23:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh
19:23:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That makes sense then :P
19:24:00  <Stablean> <Piet> this is the reality of the train day.. in the world... expensive and fast
19:24:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes but in real life corner sections on tracks are long :)
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19:28:58  <Stablean> <doonz> this is addictive lol
19:29:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The game? :P
19:29:10  <Stablean> <doonz> yup :P
19:29:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Got that right :)
19:29:42  <Stablean> <doonz> well its much more fun now that im not using pbs
19:30:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol, i guarantee without PBS overuse you'll create bigger an better junctions
19:30:08  <V453000> somebody archive that ^
19:30:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
19:30:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> v, could you join the game for a sec?
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19:31:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
19:31:49  <V453000> that was a second
19:31:54  <Stablean> <doonz> lol
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19:32:16  <Stablean> <V453000> note: I take 30% more money for overtime
19:32:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:32:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is it it theoretically allowed to take from a primary, when someone else is also taing from it?
19:33:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
19:33:48  <Stablean> <V453000> the rules officially say it is allowed indeed
19:33:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Which is stupid...
19:34:14  <Stablean> <V453000> quite
19:34:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Pretty sure people have been banned for stealing before...
19:34:37  <Stablean> <V453000> certainly not fro mme
19:34:57  <Stablean> <V453000> or all these cases were breaking the rules in some other points which ended up being the real reason
19:35:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
19:35:13  <Stablean> <dh2k3> other admins said to ask you for sure
19:35:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think rules need changing...
19:35:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Doesnt make sense that you can steal from primaries but not secondaries
19:35:52  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm
19:36:14  <Stablean> <V453000> so you would rather like if someone stole your10k goods/month factory than a farm
19:36:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Id prefer neither :)
19:36:34  <Stablean> <V453000> well sure but dont link to secondaries
19:36:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> because I seem to recall a few games where people were stealing from primaries and the others said ban
19:36:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I meant the majority of players here dont steal its sort of an unwritten rule...
19:36:56  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I'd rather they take the goods if I weren't transporting them already
19:37:35  <Stablean> <Piet> bäume odar so das ich dar zweite bahnhof dazu bauen kann
19:37:39  <Stablean> <V453000> ........
19:37:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:37:46  <Stablean> <Piet> weil... sonst geht die bewertung net nuff...
19:37:54  <Stablean> <V453000> dude what the fuck7
19:38:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wrong channel me thinks
19:38:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hold CTRL Piet...
19:38:18  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :)
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19:39:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi leg3nd
19:39:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wb
19:39:54  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Thanks good to be back
19:39:59  <Stablean> <leg3nd> Hi troy long time since man
19:40:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so, no action against DD?
19:40:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, how are you?
19:40:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> so what is the offical word V4? stealing from primaries is ok but not on secondary?
19:40:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *preparing for havoc*
19:40:36  <leg3nd> its all good troy, busy working all the time now tho
19:40:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> your gf left you?
19:41:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Umm wow
19:41:08  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wow
19:41:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah sorry
19:41:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wanted to  do that in pvt
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19:41:26  <leg3nd> yeah she dumped me the 21 dec. and where with another dude the 25th. so she have apparently had something running for on the side for some time
19:41:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Talk about general conversation topics :D
19:41:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> shit man
19:41:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Damn
19:41:52  <leg3nd> dosent matter, we are all geeks here. so nothing to hide :>
19:42:17  <leg3nd> but now i have alot of money to my self. so no damn girl taking them :>
19:42:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Id disagree but still we can all talk here :)
19:42:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> haha
19:42:41  <leg3nd> and im having time to get my command central :>
19:43:11  <leg3nd> MrD2DG i dont mind sharing,
19:43:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
19:43:33  <Stablean> <Wolf> warta bis i des baua kann
19:43:37  <Stablean> <Wolf> sry xD
19:43:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You still with us legend?
19:43:47  <leg3nd> im here.
19:43:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I meant in the company :P
19:43:56  <leg3nd> or you mean in the company ?
19:44:06  <leg3nd> no no just looking now. dont wanna fuck it up more. :>
19:44:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol you didnt fuck anything up
19:44:45  <leg3nd> hehe you say that now just because you feel sorry for me that the girl left me. HEHE
19:44:48  <leg3nd> im onto you :>
19:44:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD Nah
19:45:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, id have no problem saying you suck
19:45:11  <leg3nd> troy you bastard :>
19:45:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Neither would I, but you dont :P
19:45:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe
19:47:42  <leg3nd> troy here is something to eat on. now when you are so evil against me. now get envius :>
19:47:48  <leg3nd>
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19:48:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 3 screens
19:48:45  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway, I wont do anythin now but now officially rules say no stealing in general
19:48:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> <3
19:48:57  <Stablean> *** Trans Pennine has started a new company (#7)
19:48:59  <leg3nd> troy yes. :>
19:49:18  <Stablean> <V453000> it will appear in !rules later due to some technical things
19:49:20  <leg3nd> dreamhack TDM final on left. ttd mid. and irc on the last 24"
19:49:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> good god
19:49:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
19:50:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you all follow that?
19:50:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> impressive
19:50:38  <leg3nd> what you mean ?
19:50:39  <Twerkhoven[L]> not too hard, unless he's actually participating in quake
19:50:59  <Stablean> <Wolf> hey
19:51:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I have enough trouble having my attention at one screen
19:51:18  <Stablean> <Wolf> Trans Pennine steal...
19:51:23  <leg3nd> lol serius.. its easy after some time. i had hard time with it in the begining also
19:51:30  <leg3nd> but you learn really fast.
19:51:35  <Stablean> <Wolf> Dudinghattan
19:51:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Already :/
19:52:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No he isnt stealign wolf
19:52:16  <Stablean> <Wolf> i have build there a station...
19:52:20  <Stablean> <Wolf> my track
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19:52:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> He should have asked you but, taking PAX from towns is okay
19:52:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i dont get it either
19:52:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Stealing refers to industries
19:52:43  <Stablean> <V453000> "he should have asked" is key
19:53:10  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm
19:53:12  <Stablean> <Wolf> ... -.-
19:53:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:53:29  <Stablean> <V453000> brown you take like 10% of the passengers
19:53:35  <Stablean> <Wolf> where?
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19:54:07  <Stablean> <V453000> at Dudinghattan Ridge
19:54:57  <Stablean> <Wolf> i dont see 10%
19:54:59  <Stablean> <Wolf> make a sign
19:55:05  <leg3nd> so Troy what have you been up to ?
19:55:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Leaving me to do all the building...
19:55:54  <leg3nd> haha
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19:56:30  <leg3nd> that dont sound like troy
19:56:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, working on prios
19:58:12  <leg3nd> arr i so wanna be sick tomorrow.
19:58:17  * leg3nd pray to get sick.
19:58:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> work?
19:58:33  <leg3nd> yeah.
19:58:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:58:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> College for me :D
19:58:41  <leg3nd> mondays are like the worst.
19:59:01  <Stablean> <doonz> college break :D!
19:59:03  <Stablean> <doonz> yeow
19:59:13  <leg3nd> old retirede ppl, and reseller that dont wanna do any information seeking :<
19:59:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I wish i had a brake but my friggin sixth form want us to stay till july :/
19:59:51  <Stablean> <doonz> :o
20:00:05  <Stablean> <doonz> ive had exams last two weeks hence the break ;d
20:00:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So have I :/
20:00:19  <Stablean> <doonz> and you dont get a break? o.O
20:00:19  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
20:00:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I know
20:00:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> All we got was the half term
20:00:35  <Stablean> <doonz> :/
20:00:41  <Stablean> <doonz> that blows
20:00:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
20:01:26  <Stablean> <doonz> i dont go back till next month :p
20:01:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :'(
20:01:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Most of my friends are finished till SEPTEMBER!
20:01:54  <Stablean> <doonz> :o
20:01:54  <Stablean> <doonz> how come?
20:02:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Start of Year 13
20:02:43  <Stablean> <doonz> haha year 12 break was the best.
20:03:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wish i had one :P
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20:03:21  <Stablean> <doonz> yeah, that must suck -.-
20:03:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> SHIT
20:03:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Built the station for left hand drive :/
20:04:21  <Stablean> <doonz> left hand drive ftw ^^
20:04:27  <Stablean> *** dh2k3 has left the game (general error)
20:04:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah :) But people here like rand hand drive :/
20:04:58  <Stablean> <doonz> why?
20:05:06  <Stablean> <doonz> whats the difference o.O
20:05:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Majority of people here live in countries that drive on the right
20:05:38  <Stablean> <doonz> true
20:05:46  <Stablean> <doonz> i didnt even realise i made my trains left hand drive
20:05:48  <Stablean> <doonz> lol
20:05:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
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20:14:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Prio @ Goods drop ecit is bad
20:14:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *exit
20:14:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's long
20:15:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Too long...
20:15:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and apparently not enough capacity on mL
20:15:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Not letting any trains out
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20:15:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well unless you wanna LL_RRR? :D
20:15:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *LLL
20:15:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not really
20:15:46  <Stablean> <doonz> afk
20:15:48  <Stablean> <dh2k3> so what is the final word then?
20:15:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont remember seeing any major slowdowns before
20:15:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I see some slowdowns on ML all the time
20:15:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> On what?
20:16:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'll try to see why
20:16:11  <Stablean> <dh2k3> resource stealing
20:16:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check !here!
20:16:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> V banned it
20:16:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We had a case of ghost slowdowns earlier
20:16:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> On bridges
20:17:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The accel of class 91 is quite poor
20:17:11  <Stablean> <dh2k3> v banned stealing from primaries and secondaries?
20:17:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
20:17:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> stealing is banned in all forms
20:17:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (except pax an mail) ofc
20:17:55  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k so what about the class 91?
20:18:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just said the acceleration is poor
20:18:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just stick with it
20:18:21  <Stablean> <dh2k3> have been since they first came out :)
20:18:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i know
20:18:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I wasnt goint to change troy but ever since i upgraded from AL6 there have been noticeable slowdowns on joins
20:19:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I mean on the mainline the outer 2 tracks are usually empty
20:19:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps change the bridge/tunnel layouts
20:19:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can see i've changed them a little bit
20:19:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Where?
20:19:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> IMO this is better
20:19:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you mean the signals it doesnt make a difference
20:20:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> idk
20:20:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I didnt see it this time
20:20:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but on other occasions, i did see it make a difference
20:20:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Signals wont make a difference as trains are never that close
20:20:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it *shouldnt* matter
20:20:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *doesnt* :D
20:21:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anyway if you're not too busy you could help me connect farms
20:21:22  <Stablean> <Piet> bessar investiera mar des geld in d stadt
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20:21:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know if these tracks can handle that
20:22:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps its not a bad idea going to a more powerfull, slower engine
20:22:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Is capacity really that much of a problem
20:22:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I noticed
20:22:33  <Stablean> <Markus> type !rules
20:22:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I just think if the tracks were better balanced the slowdowns would dissapear
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20:23:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a number of slowdowns emerge way up the line
20:23:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> from joining trains
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20:23:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> more powerful engines should partly compensate that
20:23:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah, but i though the drop in speed back to AL10 would be horrible
20:24:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try it anyway?
20:24:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i mean:
20:24:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 10+k hp
20:24:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> SWEET
20:24:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Do it then just prepare to add a lot more trains :D
20:25:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, that's the downside
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20:27:31  <Stablean> <insulfrog> bbl
20:27:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
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20:27:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
20:27:55  <leg3nd> i will jump to bed, good night lads. see you sooner.
20:27:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
20:28:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> k gn
20:28:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Bye
20:29:20  <Stablean> <Piet> wer??
20:29:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They look so slowww :)
20:29:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know
20:29:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but flow has a cost
20:29:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But I think its probably worth it
20:30:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 4 tiles to max speed about
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20:31:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Forests are overflowing
20:31:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill wait till everythings stable again before adding trains
20:31:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 99 bags of gold hmm where is the bank
20:35:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Omg
20:35:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Brown you need to stop over terraforming
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20:35:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> or at least make it look like you havent cut through a mountain.....
20:36:03  <Stablean> <dh2k3> fore!
20:36:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Which doesnt equal trees... :/
20:37:29  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear Sledtown please stop growing :)
20:37:39  <Stablean> <Wolf> please stop not
20:37:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wasnt me
20:37:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that might get you kicked
20:37:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Troy xD
20:40:15  <Stablean> <Wolf> ...
20:40:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
20:40:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just dont cut through mountains
20:40:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> repair it
20:40:54  <Stablean> <Wolf> nobody see it O_o
20:41:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes we can it looks UGLY
20:41:10  <Stablean> <Wolf> where
20:41:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sure, nobody sees it -_-
20:41:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The gap you dug through a MOUNTAIN
20:42:44  <Stablean> <Wolf> i can the left and right down too so it dont look unnatural
20:42:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
20:42:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
20:42:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> NO
20:42:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
20:43:00  <Stablean> <Wolf> ...
20:43:02  <Stablean> <Wolf> please
20:43:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont level the whole mountian, you noob
20:43:18  <Stablean> <Wolf> thanks pro
20:43:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> work with it, instead of against it
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20:44:38  <Stablean> <Wolf> hmpf...
20:45:13  <Stablean> <Wolf> ugly...
20:45:15  <Stablean> <Wolf> xD
20:45:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That looks worse :/
20:45:31  <Stablean> <Wolf> yeah
20:45:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> also remove !this
20:45:35  <Stablean> <Wolf> worser than before
20:45:55  <Stablean> <Wolf> thats not a mountain.. O_o
20:45:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
20:46:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is your rail
20:47:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> remove !this
20:47:36  <Stablean> <Piet> what you do remove your train...way
20:47:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that shit piece tehre
20:47:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> remove it
20:47:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
20:48:15  <Stablean> <Wolf> stop blocking
20:48:17  <Stablean> <Wolf> ...
20:48:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stop TFing
20:48:25  <Stablean> <Wolf> i have stopped
20:48:27  <Stablean> <Wolf> you dont stopped
20:48:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> now remove it and i'll remove the rail
20:48:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> REMOVE !THIS
20:48:39  <Stablean> <Wolf> oh sry
20:49:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Woah income graph
20:50:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmmm....
20:50:37  <Stablean> <Wolf> Mhhh....
20:51:14  <Stablean> <Piet> you have a problem with people where have money.. to make your hills to seas...
20:51:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its the people that are the problem
20:51:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you dont go crazy with your money when you KNOW you are doing wrong it wont happen...
21:00:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
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21:12:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check TTA 4 150
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21:12:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Number mean?
21:13:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> first is the thing
21:13:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thing?
21:13:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 1st number is loading times
21:13:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
21:13:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> TTA, TEA
21:13:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> etc
21:13:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> SO TTA is best?
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21:13:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> whether it loads in 27 or 28%, it needs to load 4 times
21:13:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> last number is carg capacity
21:13:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> after that empty load
21:14:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> after that full load
21:14:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I would go for the TTA yeah
21:14:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ok
21:14:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bit on the heavy side when loaded
21:14:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but still cool
21:15:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats tanker 4?
21:15:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Tanke Wagon
21:15:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> loads in 4 times
21:15:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
21:15:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> has a TL3 capacity of 144
21:15:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> TTA it is then
21:16:45  <Stablean> <Mks> MrD2 you never finnished the transrapid line?
21:16:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope gonna do it after i connetc farms
21:17:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Then deliver the food
21:17:10  <Stablean> <Mks> I see
21:17:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Taken years :P
21:18:18  <Stablean> <Mks> oo over 400 trains for you now damn
21:18:26  <Stablean> <Mks> wasn't it like 260 not to long ago
21:18:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We downgraded to AL10 se needed extra trains to compensate for the speed loss
21:19:11  <Stablean> <Mks> why did you downgrade?
21:19:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> acceleration took too long
21:19:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Class 91 acceleration was bad
21:19:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Slowdowns kept happening
21:19:36  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh well
21:19:44  <Stablean> <Mks> do 3 locos :P
21:19:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:20:00  <Stablean> <Mks> accel isn't to bad with 2 locos I think could be better
21:20:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 2 for TL3 should be fine
21:20:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But dunno about capacity loss
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21:26:39  <Stablean> <Mks> so troy and mrd2 gona upgrade3 your ml to 3x3?
21:26:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> HAHA
21:26:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Troy can if he wants :)
21:27:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> MrD2DG can if he wants :)
21:27:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P 2x2 was bad enough for me
21:27:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I aint touchin it :P
21:27:32  <Stablean> <Mks> hehe i upgraded my line to 2x2 even tho I didn't want to
21:27:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and its not my company :P
21:27:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
21:27:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;) ;)
21:27:50  <Stablean> <Mks> but it was like a little thing and the whole network jamed
21:27:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:28:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well the lines seem okay atm
21:28:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And since were sending food by transrapid they should stay that way
21:29:52  <Stablean> <Mks> mm the new food plant you built it has like hardly any trains and 2x2 line :P
21:30:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> THINK BIG
21:30:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> TYPE BIG!!!
21:30:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol preparing for the future
21:30:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
21:30:22  <Stablean> <insulfrog> if you got the space ;)
21:30:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only 1 farm lines uses it atm
21:30:30  <Stablean> <Mks> lol
21:30:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im off guys
21:30:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Bye
21:30:59  <Stablean> <Wolf> bye
21:31:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
21:31:05  <Stablean> <Piet> have a nice off day
21:31:11  <Stablean> <Wolf> O_o
21:31:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> off day?
21:31:23  <Stablean> <Piet> äh.. off live...
21:31:29  <Stablean> <Mks> I wish I could use trans rapid for other things then goods
21:31:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Me too Mks
21:31:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can for food
21:31:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not very much, but still
21:31:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Foos is basically poor mans goods
21:31:55  <Stablean> <Mks> I am the only one with a transrapid line atm?
21:31:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and pax of course
21:32:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ive got one but no trains :P
21:32:07  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I know food, pax, mail, goods work
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21:32:16  <Stablean> <Mks> yours isn't finnished :P
21:32:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol well ive got a loop so technically a train could run aroudn it
21:32:36  <Stablean> <Mks> all the train can do is go in a loop around the city
21:32:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:32:54  <Stablean> <Mks> why did you even build a loop?
21:33:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because it was meant for a gold trains
21:33:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *train
21:33:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its mine was on the loop
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21:43:04  <Stablean> <Wolf> dort ghörts dianen nemme
21:43:08  <Stablean> <Wolf> sry
21:44:02  <Chris_Booth[LP]> ! I am goinging to honest what are people objections to me being here? my DynIP has changed so the ban doesn't effect me anymore, and its still on my auto connect
21:44:24  <Chris_Booth[LP]> ! anyway I am not going to stay on here
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21:48:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey CB
21:48:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
21:48:44  <Stablean> <Wolf> fail... ;)
21:48:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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21:49:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> finaly i am in
21:49:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> \o/
21:50:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks for the hi peeps
21:50:18  <Stablean> <Wolf> np...
21:50:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That sarcasm? :P
21:50:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no never why would I do that?
21:50:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> :P
21:51:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i said hi but you d/c'ed so blame your computer :)
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21:51:31  <Stablean> <Wolf> ;)
21:51:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
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21:51:57  <Stablean> <Wolf> Welcome Back...
21:52:00  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has paused the server.
21:52:02  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:52:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
21:52:06  <Stablean> <Wolf> eh...
21:52:08  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has enabled autopause mode.
21:52:10  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
21:52:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> sorry MrD2DG
21:52:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no need to pause I left PSG
21:52:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
21:52:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thank anyhow <3
21:52:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt know pause was still on :)
21:52:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 2 openttds doesn't work on my 1.6 vore 2duo
21:53:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well 1 doesnt work for me at a certain amount of trains :/
21:54:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is this the same game as yesterday?
21:54:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
21:54:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why?
21:54:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh yes Sledtown
21:54:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just wondered
21:54:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh ok
21:55:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now 72k witn less thank 10% pax
21:55:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:55:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you have a nice net though MrD2DG
21:55:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D Troy renamed the company in my honour since i built everything
21:55:57  <Stablean> <insulfrog> there...Flondingville Farm Junction is looking a bit better than what it was...
21:56:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> some parts are empty
21:56:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah the food bit
21:56:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Adding trains now
21:56:42  <Stablean> <insulfrog> still got a couple of long bridges but i am not bothered with that for the time being
21:56:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt wanna overload the network
21:56:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> frog thats a LOT better than before
21:57:31  <Stablean> <insulfrog> still got Rinfingway to sort out now
21:57:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You joining CB?
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21:57:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:58:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only adding a few signals
21:58:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
21:58:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Signal gaps where?
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21:59:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> only 1 I found
21:59:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
21:59:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we all miss one or 2
21:59:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ofc :)
22:01:27  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yo
22:01:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
22:01:40  <Stablean> <Wolf> yo ...
22:01:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> where to build today ....
22:01:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi DayDreamer
22:01:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> doonz:
22:01:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3:
22:01:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hey Chris
22:02:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thats the one lol tab fucked
22:02:06  <Stablean> <Wolf> and i? O_o
22:02:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> lol tab?
22:02:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol Wolf
22:02:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> press a letter then press tab
22:02:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and the boy who cried "Wolf" :)
22:02:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
22:02:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Wolf
22:02:30  <Stablean> <Wolf> thanks thanks.. :I
22:02:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> w = Wolf and d = DayDreamer
22:03:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> need to find some money people
22:03:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Earn some
22:03:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
22:03:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how much dh2k3?
22:03:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you have 455million?
22:03:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you need mre?
22:03:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOL
22:03:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I don't need any as I has 450 mil :P
22:04:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> power station where are you
22:05:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Woah
22:05:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Prios too long
22:05:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> there is one
22:06:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3 sssh stop talking to yourself
22:06:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> :P
22:06:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lookks like you are going made
22:06:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
22:06:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> nah just findinding profitable ventures :)
22:06:33  <Stablean> *** Anson has joined company #3
22:06:48  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo again :-)
22:06:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
22:07:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> hmm Amson you are making a lot of paper and not transporting any of it :S
22:07:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> t
22:08:44  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Anson you have a 2nd coal mine not being picked up :o
22:09:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dh2k3: take it befor I take it
22:09:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> can't as it would be resource stealing :(
22:09:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You can if you get permission
22:10:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Who banned you?
22:10:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and it's right next to me :o
22:13:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
22:13:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> :P\
22:13:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> :(
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22:13:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
22:14:14  <Chris_Booth[LP]> ?
22:14:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh
22:14:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> power plant where are you :o
22:14:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh no
22:14:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Fund one dh
22:14:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> there it is
22:14:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You've got tones of money
22:14:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *tons
22:15:18  <Stablean> <doonz> back
22:15:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wb
22:15:27  <Stablean> <doonz> thanks :)
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22:19:15  <Stablean> <dh2k3> dear Anson thanks for the coal :)
22:19:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dear all goond night it my bedd time
22:19:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Bye
22:19:39  <Stablean> <dh2k3> bed?
22:19:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> at 17:19 ? :P
22:19:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yed sleepy times for me
22:19:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nn all
22:19:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no 23:19
22:20:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 11:19 stilly Americans
22:20:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *silly
22:20:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I have to be up at 07:15
22:20:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so 7 hours sleepy for me
22:20:26  <Stablean> <dh2k3> ouch
22:21:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> america fuck yeah coming down to save the mother fucking world again!
22:21:07  <Stablean> <dh2k3> :D
22:21:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
22:21:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> XD
22:21:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> <3 TEAM America
22:21:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> woah 2,106 tonnes of coal
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22:22:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD Phill havent spoken in hours and you come out with that
22:22:24  <Stablean> <Phil> :D
22:22:26  <Stablean> <Phil> sorry
22:22:34  <Stablean> <Phil> been afk mostly
22:22:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No need to apologise :P
22:25:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> SHIT did left hand drive again
22:25:37  <Stablean> <Phil> oh noes
22:25:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
22:26:02  <Stablean> <Phil> got a bunch of trains lost and cashed :(
22:26:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
22:34:45  <Stablean> <Wolf> Bye i go to sleep
22:34:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Bye
22:34:51  <Stablean> <Phil> cya wolf
22:35:03  <Stablean> <Wolf> Hf ;)
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22:42:53  <Stablean> <Anson> this station picks up wood from all four forests :-)
22:43:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Without spread abuse? :P
22:44:11  <Stablean> <Anson> is it abuse to pick wood from three forests directly, and from the next one too by setting down one tile, three tiles distant to that station ?
22:44:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nah thats okay i think
22:44:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im sure ive got setups like that :P
22:45:04  <Stablean> <Anson> i also could have terraformed a mountain to set down a station on the hilltop -)
22:45:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
22:45:26  <Stablean> <Anson> just check it yourself near sign "mysig"
22:46:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ahh
22:46:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah thats definently not spread abuse
22:46:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You got lucky with 4 forests there :P
22:46:51  <Stablean> <doonz> yeah i was thinking that haha
22:47:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i was unlucky ... the fifth forest is gone now ... would have required 13 spread :-)
22:47:10  <Stablean> <doonz> wow
22:47:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol yeah 'unlucky'
22:48:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm dont think ill add any more trains to the wood network untill CB expands tomoz
22:54:04  <Stablean> <insulfrog> Rinfingway station is starting to get better since I turned it into a ro-ro station
22:54:25  <Stablean> <insulfrog> even got plans to add 2 more platforms for those 'busy' times
22:54:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :D
22:54:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS isnt needed at the exit btw
22:54:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> A only 1 trains can leave at a time
22:55:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *As
22:55:13  <Stablean> <insulfrog> depends on their route
22:55:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nope
22:55:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS works by determining a free path is it has already been blocked by another leaving train (the exit signal) then other trains wont leave
22:56:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Anson you got a whole lotta trains queing at the wood station
22:57:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh you stopped them
22:57:45  <Stablean> <Anson> explaining something about my setup of signals, TL, and depot :-)
22:57:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> To?
22:57:59  <Stablean> <doonz> me :D
22:58:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh :P
22:58:09  <Stablean> <doonz> :p
22:58:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Make sure you dont overload ihm with too much information in one day :P
22:58:39  <Stablean> <doonz> haha my head is already going to explode
22:58:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol it took me a while to learn the combo signal at first
23:02:26  <Stablean> <Anson> the trick : depots have an invisible signal at their door :-)
23:03:15  <Stablean> <Anson> sorry, if you don't understand, but i sometimes forget to select the proper private chat :-) ... would be nice if you could type several lines to the same person
23:03:30  <Stablean> <doonz> join my company and type in team
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23:06:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna go now guys
23:06:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cya
23:06:24  <Stablean> <doonz> cya mate
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23:18:26  <Stablean> <insulfrog> right, time to goto bed, night all :)
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23:39:41  <Stablean> <doonz> OH
23:39:41  <Stablean> <doonz> LOL
23:39:41  <Stablean> <doonz> omg
23:39:43  <Stablean> <doonz> i didnt see that
23:39:45  <Stablean> <doonz> :/
23:39:56  <Stablean> <doonz> lacking sleep lol
23:58:51  <Stablean> <doonz> if i tunnelt through?

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