Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 24th June 2011:
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01:59:11  <Stablean> <NovoRei> 1.1.1 integrated coop and normal?
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02:02:46  <Stablean> <NovoRei> at what stage is?
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03:27:55  <Stablean> <Rosarino> GRACIAS
03:28:04  <Stablean> <Rosarino> ??
03:28:43  <Stablean> <Anson> kakabus, watch out for the rules
03:29:15  <Stablean> <Anson> if you grow towns, you should transport a lot of passengers (50% at least?)
03:30:22  <Stablean> <Anson> and i don't know the judgement about excessive terraforming ... although you seem to have done it by normal raising of land, and someone forgot in this game to set prices up for tarraforming :-)
03:32:37  <Stablean> <Anson> you might do something against the big queue at the southern town, if your time permits before work
03:33:39  <Stablean> <Anson> and it might be a good idea to not give "full load" orders for both towns ... they probably won't have the exact same amount of pax ... use that order only on the town with more pax, if at all
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03:38:00  <Sylf> h
03:38:13  <Stablean> <Anson> h 2 :-)
03:38:15  <Sylf> looks like I failed to set cost mod
03:38:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> bad me
03:38:36  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, terraforming is really cheap :-)
03:38:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah
03:39:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> We can end this game relatively early
03:40:09  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't know about the others, but I'll go AFK soon, and it is very early in the morning (at least over here :-)
03:41:09  <Stablean> <Anson> but this game seems to not be too easy ... several bancriptcies already :-)
03:41:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> I dunno how
03:41:31  <Stablean> <Anson> and although i did what i do in most games, my fams won't grow much :-(
03:41:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> money making with this setting is uber easy >_<
03:44:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i have 3 farms ... one dropped from 70/80 to 12/80, the next got from 60/70 to 30/180, and the third from 70/80 to 120/80
03:44:52  <Stablean> <Anson> at first with rating 74%, now with 84-86 % ...
03:45:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> sometimes they don't grow like you want :)  That's part of fun
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03:47:19  <Stablean> <Anson> fun ? :-) ... but of course, i read that it takes around 65 years to max out with exceptional service, around 160 years with normal service, and that fo 1 in 9 resources even a reduction after all those years would be "normal" ... it is the RNG :-(
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03:48:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> Fun part is the unexpected part... and adopting the plans accordingly
03:49:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> adapting*
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04:09:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> that city is mostly served by blue
04:09:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> most of that island, in fact
04:10:19  <Stablean> <Rosarino> is my island.....
04:10:35  <Stablean> <Cosate> competicion is allowed right?
04:10:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes
04:10:49  <Stablean> <doonz> i dont think you can service the same town as him
04:10:51  <Stablean> <Cosate> so blue is blocking me
04:10:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> competition of city is okay
04:10:53  <Stablean> <doonz> without his permission
04:11:07  <Stablean> <Rosarino> so many city for you
04:11:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think you can, for a town
04:11:11  <Stablean> <Cosate> if its okay so i dont need his permicion
04:11:19  <Stablean> <Cosate> so he cant block me
04:11:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> But he can also ask you to leave the island alone
04:11:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> these roads are his way of saying, stay off of my island
04:11:48  <Stablean> <Rosarino> before constr. askme..?
04:11:52  <Stablean> <Cosate> he build it
04:11:58  <Stablean> <Cosate> after i made my bridge
04:12:08  <Stablean> <Rosarino> the road is before
04:12:08  <Stablean> <doonz> "Ask others before entering the town they are already servicing."
04:12:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> Just because those are the biggest cities doesn't mean you can just butt in and start your service
04:12:12  <Stablean> <Cosate> it wasnt
04:12:22  <Stablean> <doonz> if BLUE was already servicing that town
04:12:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> Those wore very small towns at first
04:12:24  <Stablean> <doonz> then you need his permission
04:12:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> Blue built those cities
04:12:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> So Blue has more right to that area
04:12:52  <Stablean> <Rosarino> my city my rules...
04:12:58  <Stablean> <Cosate> ... if competicion isn't allowed what the hell is the point play here
04:13:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> Find other area on the map to start a company
04:13:02  <Stablean> <Cosate> ?
04:13:08  <Stablean> <doonz> competition is allowed
04:13:08  <Stablean> <doonz> stealing isnt
04:13:10  <Stablean> <Rosarino> you city... you rules
04:13:20  <Stablean> <Cosate> its not stealing
04:13:28  <Stablean> <Cosate> i'm trying to made a superway
04:13:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> If it's not an island, with more open space, sure you can do it
04:13:32  <Stablean> <doonz> if there were no competition, you would have access to all industries
04:13:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> The space on that island is limited
04:13:54  <Stablean> <Cosate> ...
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04:14:02  <Stablean> <doonz> even if it were in open space, you would still need the permission of the person servicing it
04:14:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's a fair game.
04:14:08  <Stablean> <Rosarino> and the terrain is in level for my
04:14:26  <Stablean> <Cosate> No point this server
04:14:33  <Stablean> <doonz> lol.
04:14:44  <Stablean> <doonz> no point in stealing
04:14:54  <Stablean> <Cosate> its not
04:15:00  <Stablean> <Cosate> i was mading a superway
04:15:02  <Stablean> <doonz> yes it is
04:15:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> no point in being so selfish
04:15:11  <Stablean> <doonz> if someone is servicing an industry
04:15:18  <Stablean> <Cosate> its not a industry its a cit
04:15:22  <Stablean> <doonz> yes
04:15:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> Like all of us said: plenty of other places to start your company
04:15:28  <Stablean> <Cosate> so its ok the same way
04:15:30  <Stablean> <doonz> "Ask others before entering the town they are already servicing."
04:15:32  <Stablean> <doonz> thats a rule
04:15:38  <Stablean> <doonz> read !rules
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04:17:09  <Stablean> <doonz> you also need to make sure you service over 50% of the town
04:17:29  <Stablean> <Sylf> ?
04:17:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> Is that a part of rules?
04:17:39  <Stablean> <doonz> "When growing a town, make sure majority of the buildings are covered. Otherwise you are growing it for no use. An indicator of satisfactory transport is around 50% transported passengers per month (or more)."
04:17:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> ah
04:18:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's been so long since I've read those rules ^_^;
04:18:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> I can't enforce rules I don't know, eh? :p
04:18:44  <Stablean> <doonz> hehe, i didnt know the rules.. and it got me kicked ;p
04:19:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> At least you aren't banned :D
04:19:15  <Stablean> <doonz> :)
04:20:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> ouch, I wanted to build on that island too...  all those farms
04:21:43  <Stablean> <Anson> i also see problems on the yellow company ... but i don't mind IN THIS game :-)
04:22:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> what's that?
04:22:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, that production booster...
04:22:30  <Stablean> <Anson> yellow uses a method of teleporting cargo ... look at "!teleport"
04:22:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah, that's a dirty trick
04:23:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> That's Kakabus, right?
04:23:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> new to the server....
04:23:24  <Stablean> <Anson> he also terraformed the island in the north :-)
04:23:50  <Stablean> <Anson> made a whole city in the water ... that's when i noticed how cheap terraforming was in this game :-)
04:23:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> worth a kick?
04:24:12  <Stablean> <Anson> he seemed nice, and nobody stopped him for hours
04:24:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> x
04:24:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmm
04:24:35  <Stablean> <Anson> an hour ago, he said that he had to go to work and will be back in 8 hours
04:25:18  <Stablean> <Anson> last thing i saw him do was to improve transport for cities so that at least one has 50%+ now
04:26:08  <Stablean> <Anson> although i didn't check how he transports pax in the city ... transport or also teleport/get from extended spread
04:26:40  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that someone should explain the rules ... but now, he is afk
04:27:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> the production booster trick he's using is a very standard trick that's banned on many servers
04:28:24  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe putting up a sign in his big city would be nice ... telling him to read the rules and let someone explain teleportation, city growth and similar
04:28:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> someone can remind him when he's around again
04:28:48  <Stablean> <Anson> prod booster = teleport ???
04:29:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes
04:29:44  <Stablean> <Anson> i thought it shouldn't be done on this server either ?
04:29:59  <Stablean> <Anson> using the station spread to get more resources is ok, but no teleporting
04:30:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's more than just that
04:30:57  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : he simply could have used the station spread to get those resources, without any trucks :-)
04:31:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> station spread is 8 here, right?
04:32:13  <Stablean> <Anson> oh, yes .. forgot about that .. thought it was 12
04:32:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> so those 2 mines are 1 tile too far apart
04:33:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> Actually, take a look at his Flunfingbridge Coal Mine
04:33:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's a dirty trick that I really, really don't care to see
04:34:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> whoa... station walking in city is a crime...  >_<  I violated that in the last game
04:35:07  <Stablean> <Anson> but station spread should be good enough at least at the flunfy mines ?
04:35:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> totally
04:37:03  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL ... i was completely wron ... he didn't use the trucks to increase station spread
04:37:35  <Stablean> <Anson> with the trucks's station spread, he takes coal from both mines and then transfers them
04:37:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> exactly.  It's all about boosting coal production
04:38:06  <Stablean> <Anson> what does that trick do ?
04:38:20  <Stablean> <Anson> more transport from more stations = increased production ?
04:39:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> by having a station that services the industries very frequently (and having at least 1 station with high cargo rating), you're increasing the chance to grow the industry very cheaply and without much care
04:42:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think I'll reset the game in 7-8 hours
04:42:33  <Stablean> <Anson> like i did now
04:42:53  <Stablean> <Anson> what about such a truck route ?
04:43:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> what? where?
04:43:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh that...
04:43:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's still not needed at all.............
04:44:20  <Stablean> <Anson> not needed of course ... but legal ? better than the dirty trick ?
04:44:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's legal
04:44:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> But someone who builds like that won't make a friend with me
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04:44:55  <Stablean> <Anson> in that trick, he uses two tricks : the improved growth (no idea whether that should be legal), and the illegal teleportation of cargo
04:45:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> not that my friendship is worth any value :p
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04:46:45  <Stablean> <Anson> i need to feed my mouse ... it barely can run any more :-(
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04:50:06  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, after feeding it a fresh battery, it moves again :-)
04:50:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> damn wireless :p
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06:06:00  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, Sylf ... look at my trucks, starting at sign "only some test" :-)
06:07:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's only crazy
06:07:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> but it can piss some people off for wasting CPU power needlessly...
06:07:59  <Stablean> <Anson> might save some maintenance costs for roads ... which were very high in some game :-)
06:09:16  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : i had saved another game and run locally ... it was much more jerky than playing the game here on the server :-)
06:09:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's weird
06:09:41  <Stablean> <Rosarino> ?
06:09:57  <Stablean> <Anson> everything runs fast here, but locally, my comp can't skip some cycles or even days, and slows down
06:10:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i think when it gets too busy here, some steps are only computes at the server and transmitted without being shown ... but locally, everything is computed and shown
06:11:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> actually, everthing is computed both on server and client afaik
06:11:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i also found that "fast forward" (used offline) can be slower than running at normal speed ... if i have many windows open with moving graphics like 30 trucks or trains
06:13:03  <Stablean> <Anson> as long as the game runs smoothly with this server, i don't care how they compute it internally :-)
06:15:30  <Stablean> <Anson> about the legality of the trucks : i think it should be discouraged (like you said: ugly, cpu, etc), but a reason to kick when used instead of a bridge, to cross mountains and obnstacles, or when station spread is huge and teleporting would be a real speed advantage
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09:17:47  <Stablean> <Professor> hey guys
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09:38:52  <Stablean> <Mks> what are boats allowed?
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09:39:10  <Stablean> <Phil> and planes :/
09:39:18  <Stablean> <Mks> huh
09:39:20  <Stablean> <Mks> how come?
09:39:30  <Stablean> <Phil> no idea
09:39:46  <Stablean> <Mks> well I mean they alaways are allowed but normally mm not really worth using
09:40:09  <Stablean> <Phil> yep
09:40:29  <Stablean> <Phil> i think someone just forgot the settings
09:40:37  <Stablean> <Mks> ahh
09:41:22  <Stablean> <Mks> raising land also cheap?
09:41:39  <Stablean> <Phil> yyes
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09:49:16  <Stablean> <doonz> i hope next game isnt a water map o.O
09:49:45  <Stablean> <Phil> why doonz?
09:50:11  <Stablean> <doonz> i dislike them
09:50:33  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i gathered that
09:50:35  <Stablean> <doonz> :P
09:50:46  <Stablean> <doonz> i dont mind the hills.. the water just pisses me off
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11:41:47  <Ammler> why is Sylf no admin here?
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11:46:20  <TWerkhoven> ello
11:46:27  <insulfrog> hi
11:49:42  <Mks> mm ammler DB set can't be on this server correct?
11:51:53  <TWerkhoven> afaik it cant be  due to it not being on bananas
11:52:01  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
11:52:25  <Stablean> <Anson> when the game started, i noticed that 90 degre bends were allowed :-) ... but that is fixed now
11:52:39  <Stablean> <Anson> seems to have had lots of parameters missing on this new map
11:53:05  <Ammler> not recommend to use non-bananas
11:53:13  <Ammler> Mks: but it is up to you
11:53:30  <Ammler> or other map maker, I don't really care
11:53:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i have problems with the wagons in this game
11:53:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i transport cattle in a tanker :-)
11:53:49  <TWerkhoven> pax-wagons?
11:54:00  <Stablean> <Anson> i transport grain in a cargo wagon
11:54:08  <TWerkhoven> ah. i believe thats normal behaviour
11:54:11  <Stablean> <insulfrog> lol
11:54:16  <TWerkhoven> its liquified cattle, and grain in bags
11:54:27  <TWerkhoven> or chickens, take your pick
11:54:29  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe those two types are mixed up and grain should go in a tanker-like wagon, and cattle in a normal transporter ?
11:55:27  <Ammler> Mks: if not bananas, it should at least be part of the grfpack
11:55:46  <Mks> ahh mm its a shame DB is a nice set
11:55:51  <Stablean> <Anson> and the heavy freightliner is also annoying me ... other wagons can be refitted 1:1 between food and goods, but the freightliner has 120 goods or 60 food only ... for RL 1.5
11:55:55  <Mks> should be on bananas
11:56:06  <Ammler> the bananas authors don't like it
11:57:01  <Stablean> <Anson> TL 1.5 ... 3 wagon units ... and then only 60 capacity on that heavy (haha) transporter
11:57:25  <TWerkhoven> thats just issues stemming from using 2 train-grfs at the same time
11:57:26  <Ammler> they added a special uncommon rule, so only authors can upload grfs to bananas
11:58:16  <Ammler> very uncommunitish, but we have to life with it :-)
11:58:23  <Stablean> <Anson> it would be nice if i can see in advance what the refit will be ...
11:59:01  <Stablean> <Anson> there is already info what can be refitted (at least most of the time), but the refitted capacities would be essential too, if they are not done 1:1
11:59:04  <Mks> ammler: yeah mm well can always hope the DB author change his mind :)
11:59:25  <Ammler> the db authors mind is all ok, it lacks of the bananas mind
11:59:36  <TWerkhoven> mks: or wait for the new trainset pm et all are concocting
12:00:17  <Ammler> but well, you can try to ask him, maybe he uploads it, if enough people ask
12:00:54  <Mks> twerkhoven what trainset is that?
12:01:14  <TWerkhoven> some trains of central europe
12:01:25  <TWerkhoven> its early stages yet, just listing the engines so far
12:01:39  <TWerkhoven> but it includes the prussian and bavarian engines from what i hear
12:01:49  <Ammler> cets
12:02:17  <Ammler> but that is just starting, you need to wait a year :-)
12:03:07  <TWerkhoven> probably, it sounds a good one though
12:03:57  <Mks> ahh nice
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12:29:57  <Stablean> <insulfrog> gotta go, cyas
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12:52:23  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> moin
12:52:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> mornin
12:58:38  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> damned small station_spread
12:59:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> 8 is still too small?
12:59:19  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> have alook at "mystation"
12:59:42  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> i cannot build a truckstop
12:59:52  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> n
13:00:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> I bet there are ways to get around it
13:00:53  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> do I have to put the station on the right more near to the motherstation?
13:01:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> instead of using the trucks, you can put your motherstation there, where Frondingbury CM is
13:01:52  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> ah thanks :)
13:01:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> then, both the mother station and the transfer station can fit right there
13:02:12  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Haven't played openttd since 2 months
13:02:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> welcome back :)
13:02:37  <Stablean> <Anson> do i have to be nice to the light blue company ? or may i make my food pickup larger, possibly blocking the ships which are stealing the food ?
13:02:37  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> and now I need to come back to materia
13:02:59  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> always be nice ;)
13:02:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> well, i gotta go for now
13:03:09  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> bye and thanks for the tip
13:03:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> see ya
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13:06:22  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> KAKABUS IS BACK !!!
13:06:26  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> :D
13:07:47  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, kaka
13:07:53  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> HI
13:09:06  <Stablean> <Anson> kaka, you did some things that are no crime, but not very well liked on this server ... eg the "grow resource by truck teleporting"
13:09:34  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> AND...?
13:10:06  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that teleporting cargo might even be against the rules, and station spread should be used to collect cargo from several resources/mines, but only normal spread
13:11:01  <Stablean> <Anson> there are several things a bit messed up with this map, and thus nobody looks at this too closely :-)
13:11:24  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> now that you've mentioned it, everyone might see it in irc
13:11:58  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Why are ships allowed in this round?
13:12:01  <Stablean> <Anson> there are some rules, eg when you use a town, you should at least transport 50% (you do for one town, the other will follow soon after you are back now ? :-)
13:12:03  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> IT MAY BE DISSABLE...   END OF THIS THEME...
13:12:50  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, ships and airplanes are another "feature" now ... usually, prices for ships and airplanes are set to several millions running costs, ships even around 200 mio
13:13:04  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> I know
13:13:20  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> but why are the runningcosts so low now
13:14:14  <Stablean> <Anson> and to reduce excessive terraforming, there is a rule (terraform in such a way that it still looks natural) as well as (usually, in other games on this server) high terraform costs or 5 mio per dot
13:14:54  <Stablean> <Anson> when the map was started, they forgot to set many parameters ... at first, even 90 degree curves were enabled
13:15:04  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> yeah I remember
13:15:42  <Stablean> <Anson> pathfinder options may be adjusted after a game has started, but running costs are in a newGRF at start
13:17:55  <Stablean> <Anson> kaka, about the southern town : you still have a queue there ... and as long as you have orders to "full load" for both towns, one will always get a queue
13:19:03  <Stablean> <Anson> no matter how many platforms you have or how fast the trains are ... there are never always the same number of pax in both towns
13:21:32  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> OUPS
13:22:22  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> FUCKING FARM ON MY ISLAND...
13:22:35  <Stablean> <Anson> two other hints : PBS is not needed for straight tracks, simple block signals are good enough
13:22:59  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> DONT ADVISE
13:23:11  <Stablean> <Anson> and i found that on my stations, PBS can handle more trains when entry and exit are at opposite sides of the station ... like this
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13:23:34  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> NAZDAR
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14:06:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> whats with all the boats and planes?
14:06:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or maybe lack of basecostmod
14:07:05  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> Basecostmode has been set wrong
14:07:17  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> you cannot bancrupt your company with ships...
14:07:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hasen't been given anysetting at all
14:07:35  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> nor planes
14:08:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no and now we have some big rule breakers
14:08:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Yellow has broken lots of rules
14:08:56  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> hmm Anson has already mentioned
14:08:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as well as light blue
14:10:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well looks like a new game is in order
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14:10:31  <Stablean> <Timmaexx> hehe
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15:14:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
15:16:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hello
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15:34:20  <Stablean> <dh2k3> morning
15:34:43  <Stablean> <insulfrog12> afternoon
15:34:58  <Stablean> <insulfrog12> um, brb
15:35:03  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> KKKK
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15:36:00  <Stablean> <insulfrog> better... my username had '12' at the end, dunno why :p
15:37:33  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> WHEN IT ENDS ?
15:38:06  <Stablean> <dh2k3> when they decide to reset it
15:38:23  <planetmaker> psst. We don't shout here ;-)
15:38:28  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> THEY?
15:39:02  <Stablean> <insulfrog> they'll probably reset the game sometime tommorow or something like that
15:39:06  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yes they as in the owners of the servers
15:39:27  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> GOD BLESS THEM
15:39:39  <Stablean> <dh2k3> why you shouting?
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15:40:23  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> Not good english, what is "shouting"?
15:40:37  <Stablean> <dh2k3> THIS IS SHOUTING
15:40:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> this isn't shouting
15:40:46  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> aha
15:41:07  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> .....caps lock :)))
15:41:28  <Stablean> <insulfrog> typing in caps is normally often in ascociated with shouting :)
15:41:58  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> what is ? descripe it better pls
15:42:00  <Stablean> <insulfrog> as it looks like you are talking out loud
15:42:16  <Stablean> <insulfrog> what do you think :p
15:42:31  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> shouting.....
15:43:03  <Stablean> <insulfrog> no...? = question
15:43:39  <Stablean> <insulfrog> (might be worth taking school again???)
15:44:45  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> i know only dictionary words... not slang
15:44:56  <Stablean> <Phil> shouting = talk loud
15:45:13  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> wow thats all?
15:45:29  <Stablean> <Phil> talk very loud
15:45:31  <Stablean> * insulfrog thinks someone needs to go back to school {;)}
15:45:41  <Stablean> <Phil> scream
15:45:46  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I need to find more ways to make money
15:45:56  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> to czech school
15:46:25  <Stablean> <insulfrog> nah...english class :)
15:46:37  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> it was nightmare!
15:48:55  <Stablean> <insulfrog> reset is normally done after the year 2100 game time, like it was last time
15:49:05  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> and stupids will never play OTTD
15:49:33  <Stablean> <Phil> stupids play css
15:52:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> papermill where are you
15:52:54  <Stablean> <Phil> build one?
15:53:04  <Stablean> <dh2k3> could
15:53:18  <Stablean> <dh2k3> there is one
16:00:20  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> steam train invented in 2033..? nice future
16:01:49  <Stablean> <Phil> i need a single engine +200kph +10khp train :/
16:02:09  <Stablean> <Phil> but there sin't one
16:04:47  <Stablean> <dh2k3> crud
16:05:00  <Stablean> <insulfrog> what?
16:05:27  <Stablean> <dh2k3> town no longer accepts goods
16:10:33  <Stablean> <dh2k3> still need to doublehead some trains
16:11:09  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 70k not bad
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16:15:51  <Stablean> <dh2k3> go go goods trains go!
16:16:25  <Stablean> <dh2k3> I love this forest next to a papermill :)
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16:17:29  <Stablean> <dh2k3> 75k not bad
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17:05:58  <Stablean> <dh2k3> knew that was gonna happen
17:06:20  <Stablean> <insulfrog> what?
17:06:22  <Stablean> <dh2k3> boom
17:06:42  <Stablean> <dh2k3> now the trains jam
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17:26:32  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> 57 planes.... too easy..... comeback to heroine sir
17:26:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> who has teraformed a large part of land?
17:26:58  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> me
17:27:04  <Stablean> <dh2k3> wow
17:27:29  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> more space = more industries
17:27:51  <Stablean> <insulfrog> do you realise that large amounts of teraforming like that is disallowed?
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17:28:44  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> where is disallowed?
17:29:08  <Stablean> <Anson> KAKA, read !rules
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17:30:16  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> must to set terraform limit..
17:30:35  <Stablean> <dh2k3> normally the costs are high for tf
17:30:53  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> it cost about 100 000 000pounds
17:31:12  <Stablean> <insulfrog> now, I do not want to call for an admin about this but I am certainly would feel though i have to...
17:31:22  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> and i will continue
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17:34:46  <Stablean> <Anson> when admins asked this afternoon whether they should kick kaka, i told that he seemd to be nice in general, was AFK, and that he should be notified of the rules, instead of immediately kicking
17:35:09  <Stablean> <Anson> now o know that that was plain wrong, and i should have encouraged them instead
17:36:13  <Stablean> <Anson> there are !rules, and when someone is new to the server, he can do something which is against the rules ... ok
17:36:46  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> not doing nothing bad, what are u afraid of ?
17:36:53  <Stablean> <Anson> but telling people that you don'Ät care about rules and will continue to do everything that is possible by the game parameters ... too much for my taste
17:37:16  <Stablean> <Anson> you have violated many of the rules ... take a minute and read them
17:37:49  <Stablean> <insulfrog> well, i am off for meal time...
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17:37:59  <Stablean> <Anson> accidentally violating one is possible, but you do it on purpise
17:37:59  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> i have been playing TTD from 1992 and never saw any rule :P
17:38:34  <Stablean> <Anson> are you really that stupid ? those rules are for this server, set up by the people who own the server
17:39:02  <Stablean> <Anson> when you start the game, you see some signs telling you to read the rules
17:39:18  <Stablean> <KAKABUS CZ> realy rules was set by game setting by adv menu
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17:48:24  <Ammler> !players
17:48:26  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 741 (Yellow) is KAKABUS CZ, in company 11 (KAKABUS CZ Transport)
17:48:26  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 746 (Dark Green) is Anson, in company 15 (Anson Transport)
17:48:26  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 729 (Blue) is Rosarino, in company 12 (Argentina Corporation )
17:48:26  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 731 (Cream) is dh2k3, in company 13 (dh2k3 Transport)
17:48:26  <Stablean> Ammler: Client 737 is Anstonio, a spectator
17:48:31  <Ammler> !rcon ban 741
17:48:32  <Stablean> Ammler: CmdLevelLand       KAKABUS CZ  date:2045-12-31  tile:0001F423  p1:0001EE1A p2:00000000 text: price:238694
17:48:32  <Stablean> Ammler: ‎*** KAKABUS CZ has left the game (kicked by server)
17:48:32  <Stablean> Ammler: ‎*** KAKABUS CZ has left the game (connection lost)
17:48:32  <Stablean> Ammler: Banned 1 client(s)
17:48:50  <Ammler> shall I reset the company?
17:51:24  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Amler?
17:51:39  <Stablean> <dh2k3> Ammler*
17:54:42  <Ammler> ja?
17:55:32  <Ammler> didn't you call me to kick KAK?=
17:55:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> insulfrog did for him to be reported for mass tf
17:56:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> err Anson rather
17:56:33  <Ammler> well, I banned him, shall I reset his company too?
17:56:41  <Stablean> <dh2k3> up to you :)
17:56:46  <Ammler> why?
17:56:55  <Ammler> I don't play so I don't care
17:57:00  <Ammler> it is up to the players :-P
17:57:16  <Stablean> <dh2k3> LOL I thought admins play as well :P
17:57:31  <Stablean> <dh2k3> at least when I was one I did :)
17:57:46  <Ammler> yep, there are some
17:57:50  <Ammler> not me :-P
17:57:57  <Stablean> <dh2k3> y not?
17:58:11  <Ammler> yep, I would not play with you
17:58:23  <Ammler> this is a lame server
17:58:30  <Stablean> <dh2k3> aw now I feel :(
17:58:37  <Ammler> :-D
17:59:00  <Stablean> <dh2k3> bah need to doublehead these trains
17:59:27  <Ammler> mark "remove wagons"
17:59:43  <Stablean> <dh2k3> yup
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18:14:36  <Stablean> <Phil> wtf
18:14:40  <Stablean> <dh2k3> what?
18:14:46  <Stablean> <Rosarino> ?
18:14:49  <Stablean> <Phil> who's tf#ed everywhere??
18:14:53  <Stablean> <dh2k3> kaka
18:14:59  <Stablean> <dh2k3> and he is banned
18:15:07  <Stablean> <Phil> good :)
18:15:25  <Stablean> <Rosarino> is banned for terrain?
18:15:48  <Stablean> <Phil> sounds like it ::)
18:16:02  <Stablean> <Rosarino> jo jo jo now ?
18:16:18  <Stablean> <Rosarino> more for... fun
18:16:40  <Stablean> <Phil> no idea what jo jo jo now means
18:17:11  <Stablean> <Rosarino> no idea you says... my english is sooooooooooooooooo BAAAAAAAAAADDDDd
18:17:35  <Stablean> <Phil> ok mate no worries
18:17:45  <Stablean> <Phil> i can't speak languages either :/
18:17:57  <Stablean> <Phil> so i can't be one to comment
18:18:07  <Stablean> <Rosarino> spanish (argentina) or... italian
18:18:16  <Stablean> <Phil> hola :)
18:18:26  <Stablean> <Rosarino> jaja holaaaa
18:18:37  <Stablean> <Rosarino> pero sabes decir otra cosa?
18:18:39  <Stablean> <Phil> me casa en su casa
18:18:53  <Stablean> <Rosarino> jajja hasta la vista baby
18:18:55  <Stablean> <Phil> i can't speak spanish :(
18:19:09  <Stablean> <Rosarino> dont worry is hard spanish
18:19:11  <Stablean> <Phil> i just know a few words/phrases
18:19:33  <Stablean> <Rosarino> my english is pooor
18:19:56  <Stablean> <Rosarino> my english = native
18:20:22  <Stablean> <Phil> it's better than my spanish (probably)
18:20:48  <Stablean> <Rosarino> yes... because... more films, games & song
18:21:08  <Stablean> <Rosarino> you from?
18:21:18  <Stablean> <Phil> leeds england :)
18:21:30  <Stablean> <Rosarino> ooo yes yes...
18:21:36  <Stablean> <dh2k3> America
18:21:38  <Stablean> <Rosarino> nice
18:22:04  <Stablean> <Rosarino> America? Peru? Bolivia? eeuu? America is to big
18:22:39  <Stablean> <Rosarino> Leeds nice, england is beatiful country
18:22:46  <Stablean> <Phil> he's usa somewhere
18:22:52  <Stablean> <dh2k3> chicago
18:22:52  <Stablean> <Phil> not sure where though
18:23:03  <Stablean> <Phil> England is ok
18:23:06  <Stablean> <Rosarino> yes? Chicago.. I LOVE THE BULLS jajaj
18:23:09  <Stablean> <Phil> but it rains too much
18:23:23  <Stablean> <Phil> i'd much prefer to live in ibiza or florida
18:23:45  <Stablean> <Rosarino> yes... but in vacation Go tho ibiza
18:23:51  <Stablean> <Rosarino> you
18:24:01  <Stablean> <Phil> yeah i've been 5-6 times
18:24:09  <Stablean> <Rosarino> I am from Rosario - Argentina...
18:24:23  <Stablean> <Rosarino> is... second city..
18:24:41  <Stablean> <Phil> what football teams come from there?
18:24:51  <Stablean> <Rosarino> Yes Rosario Central
18:25:05  <Stablean> <Rosarino>
18:25:27  <Stablean> <Phil> reading wiki now :)
18:25:39  <Stablean> <Phil> aha
18:25:45  <Stablean> <Phil> messi is from rosario
18:25:47  <Stablean> <Rosarino> you team? Leeds?
18:26:14  <Stablean> <Rosarino> yes, Messi, Lavezzi, Kily Gonzalez, Di Maria
18:26:28  <Stablean> <Rosarino> To meny player
18:26:34  <Stablean> <Phil> i don't really support a team,  but if i did,  my team would be barnsley fc
18:26:52  <Stablean> <Rosarino> yes is in 2ª
18:27:07  <Stablean> <Rosarino> now back.
18:27:29  <Stablean> <Phil> do you mean the second division? if so then
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18:27:41  <Stablean> <Phil> it's also called the coca cola championship
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18:28:12  <Stablean> <Phil> awww
18:28:15  <Stablean> <Phil> he's gone :(
18:28:45  <Stablean> <Phil> dh
18:28:53  <Stablean> <Phil> are you gangster?
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18:34:31  <Stablean> <Phil> wow
18:34:32  <Webster> Title: YouTube - First Time Tribe Encounter with Civilized Man (1976) - PART 1 - Yeha Noha (at
18:34:43  <Stablean> <Phil> check it out
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18:52:02  <Stablean> <Rosarino> be back
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18:56:23  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> Hi
18:56:59  <Stablean> <Rosarino> yeeeaaa
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19:26:45  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> any help me whit owerflop?  in Here!
19:29:07  <Stablean> <insulfrog> first...make your forest station a ro-ro
19:29:29  <Stablean> <insulfrog> it will be easier then to take in traffic
19:32:39  <Stablean> <insulfrog> fisrt...take a line from 'A'
19:32:50  <Stablean> <insulfrog> to the station at 'B'
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19:35:28  <Stablean> <insulfrog> DNZ: can you see what i am getting at?
19:35:52  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> no ok workit
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19:41:23  <Stablean> <insulfrog> DnZ-Ali: Please read the signs I put down...they will help.
19:41:53  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> tnx help.
19:42:33  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> but i work on owerflop no extra platform
19:42:53  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> i see what you want
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20:35:17  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> bye
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21:10:35  <Stablean> <insulfrog> gotta go, cyas
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23:22:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> anyone here?
23:22:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> anyone object to another reset now?
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23:31:41  <Stablean> <Anson> ganmes saved to have a look offline later ... you may reset now and thus remove all the cheaters and rulebreakers :-)
23:42:18  <Sylf> yeah, I saw that huge teraform of the sea
23:42:27  <Sylf> creating a massive flat land
23:43:02  <Stablean> <Anson> it is possible that someone new to the server does it ... but this time, we told him to look at the rules
23:43:04  <Sylf> maybe we'll do 256x2048 this time :p
23:43:27  <Stablean> <Anson> and he only replied that as long as the game parameters would permit it, it was ok, and he would continue doing so
23:43:55  <Sylf> was it the kakabus?
23:44:21  <Stablean> <Anson> telling him to look at the rules, he replied that ttd has no rules but the game parameters, and when terraforming is possible, he would do so
23:44:29  <Sylf> looks like it.  I'll request for a ban
23:44:41  <Stablean> <Anson> the big yellow :-(
23:45:13  <Sylf> yup, totally a source for a ban
23:45:17  <Stablean> <Anson> and the next was light blue ... stole my food, and when i put down signs (he was offline) he simply removed the signs and continued
23:45:58  <Sylf> I had some suspicion about light blue player too
23:46:05  <Stablean> <Anson> his ship dock blocked extension of my food pickup, and i put down signs again that he was stealing and blocking
23:46:23  <Sylf> Don't worry, cost mod will be placed properly this time, and it'll keep lots of those pests away
23:46:48  <Sylf> ships will be prohibitively expensive again to run
23:46:56  <Stablean> <Anson> a few hours after i came back, he had moved his station so that i could expand my station, but instead of reducing theft, he doubled it, and also stole raw resources from the farm next to it
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23:48:26  <Sylf> So, Kakabus and Argentina/Maradona or whoever...
23:48:27  <Stablean> <Anson> just look at !theft1 and !thet2
23:48:38  <Stablean> <Anson> it can't be done more abviously
23:50:52  <Stablean> <Anson> what annoys me most is not that someone wants a share of some producing factory which is not full used up by me, but that yellow completely ignored hints to the rules and told us that there are no rules besides game parameters, and thus he would continue
23:51:38  <Stablean> <Anson> thus i could partially tolareat !theft1 while it is not blocking my station and i produce twoce as much as i can handle at the moment
23:52:16  <Stablean> <Anson> but then following it up with !theft2, adding a truckline ... i can't understand that
23:59:20  <Stablean> <Anson> when the map resets anyway soon now, may i try to kill a few trucks ? :-)

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