Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 16th July 2011:
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13:37:40  <Stablean> <tom> block signals are confusing xD
13:37:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> nah
13:37:53  <Stablean> <tom> slowly learning how they work though
13:37:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> you need heps with that thing?
13:38:10  <Stablean> <tom> well i'm just trying to get them to stay in the depot until the trains leave
13:38:22  <Stablean> <tom> so i don't have them in a constant circle
13:39:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> see the middle signal
13:39:28  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
13:39:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> that should be combo, not entry
13:39:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> you have it as exit signal now
13:40:35  <Stablean> <tom> ahh
13:40:38  <Stablean> <tom> thank you
13:40:54  <Stablean> <tom> thats perfect
13:41:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup
13:41:18  <Stablean> <tom> so downwards vetical yellow signal is combo signal
13:41:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes
13:41:42  <Stablean> <tom> ahh i was getting my exit and combo mixed up then Xd
13:42:19  <Stablean> <tom> cheers for that
13:42:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> :)
13:42:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> anyway
13:42:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think we're about done with this map?
13:42:51  <Stablean> <tom> just gotta wait for the reset now so i can actually build something
13:43:01  <Stablean> <tom> i think its done
13:43:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> ok, one vote for reset...
13:43:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> any opinion from Benny?
13:44:17  <Stablean> <tom> the train logic stuff has always confused me :P hopefully i will start to understand it more now
13:44:24  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> no
13:44:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> k... I'm building a map with dutch train set... something new to the content downloader
13:45:09  <Stablean> <tom> gonna have to download that then
13:46:59  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> When will restart?
13:47:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> in about 3 to 5 minutes
13:47:56  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> ok
13:49:35  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> What will the map?
13:49:56  <Sylf> it'll be normal 512x512 Temperate map
13:50:25  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> ok
13:50:32  <Sylf> !rcon ls
13:50:32  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
13:50:32  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) StableTemp58.sav
13:50:32  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTemp57.sav
13:50:32  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableArc25b.sav
13:50:32  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) Stable64.sav
13:50:34  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 174 more messages
13:50:38  <Sylf> !rcon pwd
13:50:38  <Stablean> Sylf: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/archive/
13:50:48  <Sylf> !rcon cd 0
13:50:51  <Sylf> !rcon ls
13:50:51  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
13:50:51  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
13:50:51  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTempS03.sav
13:50:51  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) StableArc02.sav
13:50:51  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) StableToyS01a.sav
13:50:52  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 28 more messages
13:51:06  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
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13:51:19  <Sylf> !setdef
13:51:19  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
13:51:28  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
13:51:28  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
13:51:30  <Sylf> !auto
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13:53:44  <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 8
13:53:53  <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has started a new company (#2)
13:54:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, I didn't load any grf that prevents oil wells from dying
13:54:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh well.  tough luck.
13:54:49  <Stablean> <tom> nice and hilly :P
13:56:41  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#3)
13:59:14  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> nice
13:59:55  <Stablean> <tom> damn hills
14:00:01  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> :D
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14:01:13  <Stablean> <Sylf> hey there
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14:02:59  <Stablean> <Absolutis> /rules
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14:17:34  <Stablean> <BennyCZ> lol
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14:20:00  <Stablean> <tom> ahh these hills are just getting in the way now :(
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14:20:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> hey hey
14:20:04  <Stablean> <tom> herro
14:22:29  <Stablean> <tom> who is apeture science?
14:22:35  <Stablean> <tom> or did he leave
14:22:43  <Stablean> <Absolutis> portal company?
14:23:02  <Stablean> <tom> ahh i was wondering who was running the company on the game
14:23:10  <Stablean> <Absolutis> and... out of cash. Damn.
14:23:48  <Stablean> <Absolutis> TRAIN CRASH!!!
14:23:48  <Stablean> <tom> god damn trains
14:23:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> that drop station looks 1 tile too short
14:24:58  <Stablean> <tom> ahh i'm being boxed in
14:25:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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14:25:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> aha, out of debt :)
14:25:57  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
14:26:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Player chnge your name...
14:26:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> .!name [yourname]
14:26:33  <Stablean> <tom> amg debt
14:26:39  <Stablean> <tom> ahh out again
14:28:13  <Stablean> <tom> yay for priorities :P finally got them to work lol
14:28:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol Nice
14:29:57  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has started a new company (#5)
14:30:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> Go steam trains, go :)
14:30:59  <Stablean> <tom> haha
14:31:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
14:32:05  <Stablean> <tom> grr i keep acidentally placeing track i don't want
14:33:22  <Stablean> <tom> Don't you love when people don't set their player name
14:33:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah ¬_¬
14:33:46  <Stablean> <Absolutis> any of you play Minecraft BTW
14:33:50  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
14:33:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
14:34:02  <Stablean> <Absolutis> Cool, me too
14:34:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
14:34:29  <Stablean> <Absolutis> mostly on ImDeity and servers
14:34:35  <Stablean> <Absolutis> buy anyway
14:34:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I still dont have a regular server i play on :P
14:34:53  <Stablean> <Absolutis> but*
14:34:59  <Stablean> <Absolutis> imdeity is really good
14:35:05  <Stablean> <tom> I usually play on the Circle of magi server but it is mostly boring atm
14:35:15  <Stablean> <tom> I kinda got back into this aswell
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14:36:31  <Stablean> <tom> Need to find more coal mines
14:37:06  <Stablean> <tom> Crap i forgot to leave room for expansion of my powerstation drop
14:37:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :p
14:37:51  <Stablean> <tom> Hopefully i won't need to expand anytime soon :/
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14:42:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> why do these trains stop at PBS every time again...
14:42:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> even after setdef
14:42:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We noticed that yesterday
14:43:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We though setdef got screwed up
14:43:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> wait for pbs path is disabled
14:43:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> hrmrm
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14:47:01  <Stablean> <tom> probably should pay back some of my loan
14:49:37  <Stablean> <tom> Ahhh it takes so long to get trains
14:50:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Trains are bloody cheap its easy :)
14:50:50  <Stablean> <tom> It seems to take me for eva to gte going
14:50:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> not as cheap as default set :p but it is cheap
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14:51:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P True but seems a lot cheaper than recent games
14:51:40  <Stablean> <tom> Well if you have money then yes its pretty cheap but i always seem to be below 10k
14:51:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You using long distance routes?
14:52:10  <Stablean> <tom> Not as long distance as some of yours and sylphs
14:52:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Theres your problem then :P
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14:52:42  <Stablean> <tom> well i got a long distance one set up just getting some trains for it
14:53:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well that shoudl help
14:55:21  <Stablean> <tom> damn absolutis stole all the coal here
14:55:32  <Absolutis> ?
14:55:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I didnt even want to transport coal everyone goes for it :P
14:55:52  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
14:55:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> act fast :p
14:56:00  <Stablean> <tom> i went for it because there was a decent amount around here
14:56:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill move into other cargoes later
14:56:20  <Stablean> <tom> Is there an irc channel for this server?
14:56:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
14:56:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> #openttdcoop.stable
14:56:34  <Stablean> <tom> ok
14:56:36  <Stablean> <tom> thank you
14:56:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> np
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15:02:27  <Stablean> <tom> ahh hills make it so difficult to build bridges
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15:10:12  <Stablean> <tom> why do people name there stations differently is it some sort of code?
15:10:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im the only one that does it i think
15:10:33  <Stablean> <tom> oh nvm i see
15:10:50  <Stablean> <tom> you abbriveiate the town name then put they type of station it is
15:10:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just because i like to group my trains more that just all coal all iron etc
15:10:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep :)
15:10:58  <Stablean> <tom> ahh
15:11:28  <Stablean> <tom> I have never really grouped my trains
15:11:32  <Stablean> <tom> i probably should
15:11:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P it makes upgrading and finding trains easier
15:12:00  <Stablean> <tom> yeah thats true
15:12:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well for me anyway especially with a big network
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15:12:21  <Stablean> <tom> well of course its alot eaiser in big networks
15:13:22  <Stablean> <tom> might expand my coal drop
15:15:44  <Stablean> <tom> I love these train stations
15:16:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Which ones? :P
15:16:08  <Stablean> <tom> the industrial ones
15:16:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
15:16:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's a classic goody
15:16:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i used to only use them :P Started using chips a lot recently though
15:16:39  <Stablean> <tom> yeah i didn't really use NewGRFs alot untill i started playing here
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15:18:21  <Stablean> <tom> i hate slow industries
15:18:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:18:42  <Stablean> <tom> they take so long to fill up the trains
15:18:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> OPH jesus
15:18:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> pink is using 7 tile trains!
15:18:54  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
15:19:08  <Stablean> <tom> i noticed that
15:19:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The locos are being crippled :P
15:19:26  <Stablean> <tom> haha
15:19:57  <Stablean> <tom> and single bridges
15:20:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/ Yeah
15:20:18  <Stablean> <tom> though he is only using about 1-2 trains per station so they fill pretty quickly
15:20:32  <Stablean> <tom> due to the time it takes for them to get there and back
15:20:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well luckily he hasnt got many steep hills
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15:21:03  <Stablean> <tom> i've had to build over the top of him cause he boxed me in :(
15:21:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:21:29  <Stablean> <tom> building bridges on hills is not fun :P
15:22:19  <Stablean> <tom> It always amazes me how people can expand so quickly
15:22:30  <Stablean> <tom> it take me forever to even start :P
15:22:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> practice :P
15:22:36  <Stablean> <tom> i guess so
15:22:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> although when i have a big enough network i get lazy and cba to expand anymore :P
15:23:06  <Stablean> <tom> i can do most things it's just the block signals and starting that i need to work on
15:23:13  <Stablean> <tom> same :P
15:23:42  <Stablean> <tom> though i'm getting the hang of block signals haven't used any PBS in this game
15:23:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
15:24:04  <Stablean> <tom> although by the sounds of things i don't think i can use PBS right now
15:24:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah its been acting weird lately
15:24:25  <Stablean> <tom> is it a new GRF bugging it out?
15:24:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea
15:25:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Doubt it though because most of the new grf's on this server have been used a lot so it would have been noticed before
15:25:01  <Stablean> <tom> Ah well guess i'll just have to use block signals then
15:25:05  <Stablean> <tom> yeah i guess so
15:25:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS is good but only in some situations easier to just get in the habit of using pre-sigs for reasons like now :P
15:25:47  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
15:26:22  <Stablean> <tom> well i think i have got the hang of it Tbh i'm not to bothered about train logic stuff
15:26:34  <Stablean> <tom> I don't need to Self regulating networks :P
15:26:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Same goes for me i never really bother with that stuff
15:26:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only on public server anyway
15:26:58  <Stablean> <tom> yeah i would mostly get confused
15:27:05  <Stablean> <tom> but i would love to learn how to do it
15:27:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> yeah it can be interesting once you learn how to do it and how it works :P
15:27:59  <Stablean> <tom> yay only 240k of my loan to pay off now :P
15:28:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:28:06  <Absolutis> coming back now, seems that i got much $$$ to work with
15:28:13  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
15:28:30  <Stablean> <tom> i love that if you log off the server your trains still run as long as people are playing
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15:28:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol yeah
15:29:06  <Stablean> <tom> cause you come back and have millions
15:29:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If you network hasnt jammed and taken you into the negative zone :P
15:29:57  <Stablean> <tom> i still don't understand why you need to two peices of track coming off at diagonals at a reversing point though :P
15:30:03  <Stablean> <tom> yeah lol i had that a couple of times
15:30:13  <Stablean> <tom> luckily helpful people sorted it for me
15:30:39  <Stablean> <tom> that was back when i used all pbs though
15:30:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh thats because it shows the path finder that theres a split up ahead so the train thinks there is more options when it goes down a dead end peice of track
15:31:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Without it it wouldnt take the reverser by default (i think cant remember it all exactly :P)
15:31:27  <Stablean> <tom> ahhh
15:31:48  <Stablean> <tom> so it takes the platforms first then the reversing point
15:31:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:32:02  <Stablean> <tom> ahh i see now
15:32:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because its main goal is obviously to get to the platforms
15:32:13  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
15:32:17  <Stablean> <tom> silly pathfinder :P
15:32:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:33:13  <Stablean> <tom> I have always wanted to make a Pax network but making money out of them at the beggining is near impossible
15:33:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> True
15:33:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I havent done pax in a while too
15:33:50  <Stablean> <tom> I've never done it because my companies always die :P
15:34:00  <Stablean> <Absolutis> i often MAKE some money with that, but it is always too slow
15:34:04  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
15:34:14  <Stablean> <tom> takes way to long for the trains to fill up
15:34:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah, i used to only make pax networks, i miss them now :P
15:34:52  <Stablean> <tom> you have to start with the buses really so as to increase the population
15:34:58  <Stablean> <tom> or really small trains
15:35:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
15:35:35  <Stablean> <tom> might start on my iron ore netwokr
15:35:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats what i was gonna carry originally :P
15:36:01  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
15:36:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Quite a few mines near me :)
15:36:10  <Stablean> <tom> Yeah i never know what to start with really
15:36:38  <Stablean> <tom> I'm looking for a decently placed stell mill
15:36:44  <Stablean> <tom> the only one near me sucks
15:36:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:39:39  <Stablean> <tom> crap wrong type of station
15:39:43  <Stablean> <tom> now it looks wrong
15:41:32  <Stablean> <tom> Stupid slow coal mines D:
15:41:51  <Stablean> <tom> It takes a while for them to warm up it really annoys me
15:41:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:46:04  <Stablean> <tom> i don't like having a loan to have to repay
15:46:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I forgot about mine, didnt take the full amount out anyway :)
15:46:34  <Stablean> <tom> haha i always take it all :P
15:46:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
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15:49:30  <Stablean> <tom> damn
15:49:32  <Stablean> <tom> rails in the way
15:49:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
15:50:08  <Stablean> <tom> hmm
15:52:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb
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16:00:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> back
16:00:32  <Stablean> <tom> welcome back
16:00:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> £600k :)
16:00:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ty
16:00:48  <Stablean> <tom> haha
16:00:48  <Stablean> <tom> nice
16:02:24  <Stablean> <tom> hehe i have 29k :P
16:02:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:02:37  <Stablean> <tom> I'm so poor D:
16:03:30  <Stablean> <tom> now i need a steel pickup to take it to my factory
16:03:36  <Stablean> <tom> i'll do that later :P
16:03:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:04:28  <Stablean> <tom> hmmm no idea where to put it
16:04:34  <Stablean> <tom> there are rails in the way on one side
16:04:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> you've got tons of space!
16:04:52  <Stablean> <tom> minght have to build a creeping station
16:05:02  <Stablean> <tom> yeah but there are rails in the way on the side i was gonna put it
16:05:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ouch i see lots of tight corners :/
16:05:29  <Stablean> <tom> yeah thats what you get building in hills though
16:05:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> true
16:06:22  <Stablean> <tom> i love being able to link stations
16:06:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
16:06:51  <Stablean> <tom> now to find a factory :/
16:07:25  <Stablean> <tom> ooo we still have trams
16:07:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
16:08:08  <Stablean> <tom> got a factory :D
16:08:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yay!!! :P
16:08:17  <Stablean> <tom> near new hunding hall so pretty far away to
16:08:40  <Stablean> <tom> brb
16:11:41  <Stablean> <tom> back with food :D
16:11:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P wb
16:13:09  <Stablean> <tom> Yes finnally repaid my loan
16:13:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh i forgot ill do mine too :P
16:13:31  <Stablean> <tom> haha
16:18:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Low on money now :/
16:19:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Stupid TF :P
16:19:07  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
16:19:53  <Stablean> <tom> what are you tryin to do
16:20:32  <Stablean> <tom> oh nvm i see :P
16:20:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:27:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Better loco :)
16:29:49  <Stablean> <tom> well my main factory is done
16:39:10  <Stablean> <tom> not sure what i should do with my network now
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16:39:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> expand? :P
16:39:19  <Stablean> <tom> gonna
16:39:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> or fix those tight corners!
16:39:42  <Stablean> <tom> hmm
16:39:48  <Stablean> <tom> the train gets round them alright
16:39:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmmm
16:40:08  <Stablean> <tom> i don't usually build them but if i'm in a tight space i will
16:40:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna cause problems later...
16:42:35  <Stablean> <tom> i suppose i do have 280k to work with
16:42:47  <Stablean> <tom> i might fix em in a bit
16:43:22  <Stablean> <tom> terraformming costs loads
16:43:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep always does
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16:43:41  <Stablean> <tom> yeah i remeber from when i was here before
16:54:31  <Stablean> <tom> ahh building a steel mill i see
16:54:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Uh huh :)
16:54:55  <Stablean> <tom> i need to link more iron mines to mine
16:55:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lots of forests too might need a sawmill station :)
16:55:56  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
16:56:14  <Stablean> <tom> how could i tell iwould forget something on one of these stations lol
16:56:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:57:20  <Stablean> <tom> if i build a sawmill i will probably build a feeder station to feed all the goods into it
16:57:28  <Stablean> <tom> then have a train route out of that to a town
16:57:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh never done that before you'd get a large build up of goods :P
16:58:23  <Stablean> <tom> Yeah i would need alot of trains on the line takeing them to the town
16:58:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
16:58:31  <Stablean> <tom> i like to consolidate all my goods :P
16:58:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:59:10  <Stablean> <tom> hmm i could always just fund a sawmill near my factory
16:59:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You got enough money?
16:59:25  <Stablean> <tom> damn no
16:59:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I was gonnd fund a steel mill but i didnt :P
16:59:45  <Stablean> <tom> i need to find a decent sawmill though
17:03:22  <Stablean> <tom> i hope the map after this doen't have as many hills XD
17:03:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
17:04:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> OMG
17:04:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Steel mill closed!!!!
17:04:49  <Stablean> <tom> lol
17:05:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh i can just afford a new one :P
17:05:03  <Stablean> <tom> wow
17:05:07  <Stablean> <tom> lucky
17:05:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> £38k left :/
17:05:29  <Stablean> <tom> :s
17:05:57  <Stablean> <tom> ok i have absolutely no idea how to get from this forest to the lumber mill
17:06:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol where?
17:06:29  <Stablean> <tom> new grenwelll woods to fort drunfingfeild mill
17:06:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ooh
17:07:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Good luck with that :P
17:07:12  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
17:07:21  <Stablean> <tom> might have to make a hub
17:07:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
17:07:30  <Stablean> <tom> or two
17:11:10  <Stablean> <tom> ok that will do it doesn't need to go the way i can't build anyway
17:15:59  <Stablean> <tom> Ahhh this is such a pain
17:16:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol what?
17:16:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still trying to connect? :P
17:16:21  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
17:17:09  <Stablean> <tom> i have the connection to the main network from the woods
17:17:31  <Stablean> <tom> but getting one form the network to the mill is a pain
17:18:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> yeah i see
17:18:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Good luck xD
17:20:13  <Stablean> <tom> Done :D
17:20:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol wasnt so hard then
17:22:05  <Stablean> <tom> oh crap
17:22:09  <Stablean> <tom> i didnt do the other way
17:22:09  <Stablean> <tom> lol
17:22:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
17:22:22  <Stablean> <tom> ahh wait
17:22:26  <Stablean> <tom> this is the easy one
17:23:54  <Stablean> <tom> now to consolidate my good
17:24:00  <Stablean> <tom> good's*
17:24:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
17:34:12  <Stablean> <tom> hmm this mine died
17:34:29  <Stablean> <tom> now i have an obselete station
17:34:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
17:34:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hate when that happens
17:35:10  <Stablean> <tom> best to blow it up i guess
17:35:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
17:37:42  <Stablean> <tom> god this mine is really slow
17:37:52  <Stablean> <tom> i think this train has been here for the past 20 minutes
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17:48:45  <Stablean> <tom> did qnetzki build anything?
17:48:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dunno
17:49:20  <Stablean> <tom> doesn't look like it
17:49:57  <Stablean> <tom> i think he was a spectator actually
17:50:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Guess he just came to look in
17:50:11  <Stablean> <tom> probably
17:50:18  <Stablean> <tom> brb
17:51:15  <Stablean> <tom> ok back
17:51:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wb
17:51:32  <Stablean> <tom> yeah i came to spectate on the last game but it was all paused because i was the only person so i made a company
17:51:46  <Stablean> <tom> i came to look at your network :P
17:52:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol i didnt even get to see it today :/
17:52:07  <Stablean> <tom> hehe it was doing well
17:52:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
17:53:11  <Stablean> <tom> hmm my trains keep taking the wood from my drop trains
17:53:17  <Stablean> <tom> and taking it to the wrong place
17:53:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Weird
17:53:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> same wagons?
17:53:35  <Stablean> <tom> i'm using the stake wagons
17:53:41  <Stablean> <tom> for my wood and goods trains
17:53:52  <Stablean> <tom> i'm not sure if you refit them or if they can carry every thing
17:53:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Make sure you set drop trians to unload only and not load again
17:54:00  <Stablean> <tom> because they seem to be picking up wood
17:54:07  <Stablean> <tom> i have
17:54:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dunno why though :/
17:54:17  <Stablean> <tom> its my feeder trains doing the wood moving
17:54:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> brb a min
18:10:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
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18:24:24  <Stablean> <tom> hey sylf
18:24:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> hey hey
18:24:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> ey there
18:25:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> ooooooh, a boat!  :D
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18:25:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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18:26:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> hm, nothing worthy of upgrading yet...
18:28:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, the bridge upgrades :)
18:28:26  <Stablean> <Player> the manut
18:29:48  <Stablean> <Player> hei, the running cost for this ship, is so crazy
18:29:51  <Stablean> <tom> yep
18:29:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup
18:29:56  <Stablean> <tom> and the air
18:30:06  <Stablean> <tom> becuase we do it with trains here :P
18:30:08  <Stablean> <Player> why?
18:30:18  <Stablean> <tom> because they are the best
18:30:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> coop's focus is on trains
18:30:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> we like watching people build nice rail networks
18:31:02  <Stablean> <Player> i dont like trains!!!!! i'm really like ship and planes!!
18:31:12  <Stablean> <tom> well this isn't for you then
18:31:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> then you can't really play on this server
18:31:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Those are to easy you trains!!!
18:31:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *use
18:31:35  <Stablean> <Player> but ok, i can play whit trains
18:31:56  <Stablean> <tom> unless you can make millions to cover the costs of the planes
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18:33:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No border..
18:33:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> hehehe
18:33:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Was just gonna set up a line but then had to reply to a text :P
18:33:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I cant multitask :)
18:34:24  <Stablean> <Player> hi guys, about the bus and car, how is the running cost
18:34:30  <Stablean> <tom> they are normal
18:34:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thos are normal and fine
18:34:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> before we answer that
18:34:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
18:34:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> change your nick
18:34:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That too :)
18:34:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG>  !name [yorname]
18:35:53  <Stablean> <tom> oh shit
18:36:00  <Stablean> <tom> fucking boats
18:36:08  <Stablean> <Player> sorry change
18:36:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lool
18:36:09  <Stablean> <tom> i accidentally bought the boats
18:36:37  <Stablean> <tom> ahh crap now i have -1mil debt
18:36:59  <Stablean> <tom> -.-
18:37:30  <Stablean> <tom> how the hell am i gonna get rid of this boat
18:38:10  <Stablean> <tom> how long will it take for my company to go bust now
18:38:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Sell the ship?
18:38:22  <Stablean> <tom> can't
18:38:30  <Stablean> <tom> if i let it move i will go into more and more debt
18:38:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why not?
18:38:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lmao erm make a depot close to it
18:38:44  <Stablean> <tom> i'm 1 mil into debt
18:38:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> How can you ACCIDENTLY buy a ship anyway? xD
18:38:59  <Stablean> <tom> i bought the compnay that had a ship totally oblivious
18:39:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> how do you accidentally buy a shipyard?
18:39:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> XD
18:39:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I got £2mil so i can give you money if you want
18:39:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> loooool
18:39:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> you bought that company
18:39:22  <Stablean> <tom> yep
18:39:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> WIN!
18:39:28  <Stablean> <tom> i have absolutely no idea why
18:39:33  <Stablean> <tom> But it happened
18:39:41  <Stablean> <tom> Wow thank mrD
18:39:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> that enough? :P
18:40:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> hahahaha
18:40:03  <Stablean> <Player> how i can change my nickname
18:40:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> nice profit graph
18:40:09  <Stablean> <tom> wtf
18:40:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
18:40:13  <Stablean> <Sylf>  !name <new nick>
18:40:19  <Stablean> <tom> £142 for the boat -.-
18:40:26  <Stablean> <tom> Back in debt again though lol
18:40:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Next time check the company your buying :P
18:40:32  <Stablean> <tom> now im -500k
18:40:38  <Stablean> <Player> <new nick>
18:40:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes, purchase cost of boats is uber cheap
18:40:40  <Stablean> <tom> yeah lol
18:40:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You're rinising my savings :P
18:41:03  <Stablean> <tom> lol you both gave me money
18:41:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oooh
18:41:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lucky you :P
18:41:31  <Stablean> <tom> i have absolutely no idea how to give soem of it back though
18:41:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol its kool...
18:41:56  <Stablean> <tom> well i have 1mil i don't need now
18:42:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You might need t incase you buy another company with a ship :P
18:42:11  <Stablean> <tom> :S
18:42:55  <Stablean> <tom> wow my profit graph went down slightly
18:43:15  <Stablean> <tom> i think the boat's initial cost should be stupidly high so people don't buy them
18:43:26  <Stablean> <tom> i might make a company with one boat and see how long it takes to go bust
18:43:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No fun in that though :P
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18:43:58  <Stablean> <<Nando>> finally
18:45:28  <Stablean> <tom> hmm i have a few to many crates of goods in my feeder
18:46:11  <Stablean> <tom> ok all gone
18:52:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> :o
18:53:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
18:53:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> I just was watching the big about-to-be-rebuilt station bombing
18:53:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh :P
18:53:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Trying to get it into the spread of both mines
18:54:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> yup
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19:09:00  <Stablean> <tom> i should probably expand some more
19:09:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P looks like yur dominating that area
19:09:48  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
19:09:58  <Stablean> <tom> really got no idea what to do now
19:10:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol just connect stuff i guess, or start experimenting with big junctions
19:10:39  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
19:10:50  <Stablean> <tom> might go build in another area and build big
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19:12:20  <Stablean> <tom> i wish bridges could start and end at different hights
19:12:28  <Stablean> <tom> would make it so much easier
19:12:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They can
19:12:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well by 1 tile :P
19:12:38  <Stablean> <tom> Yeah i mean more than that :P
19:14:44  <Stablean> <tom> only trouble with my networks is they are a mess
19:14:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Clean it up then :)
19:14:54  <Stablean> <tom> I should plan more
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19:20:39  <Stablean> <tom> MrD why do you have diagonal piece of track infront of the platform of all your teminus stations
19:21:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The split stops lost trains from jamming a platform that is already taken
19:21:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Sort of like what it does at a reverser
19:21:24  <Stablean> <tom> ahh
19:21:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Shows theres an option or something :P
19:21:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont need it when using PBS terminals though
19:21:50  <Stablean> <tom> I am using block signals at terminus though
19:21:54  <Stablean> <tom> but mine seem to be fine
19:22:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah i know for you you should im just saying when using pbs not needed :)
19:22:19  <Stablean> <tom> ahh yeah ok i knew that :P
19:22:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well if you get a lost train that wants to turn around it could try to get into a platform with a train already in causing jams, so watch out :P
19:23:01  <Stablean> <tom> i think i had that
19:23:15  <Stablean> <tom> i sorted it by just adding a loop all the way around the station though :P
19:23:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That works too :P
19:23:45  <Stablean> <tom> yeah it got lost because i linked the wrong peices of track up
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19:24:15  <Tom> stupid laptop -.-
19:24:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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19:24:51  <Stablean> <tom> right
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19:33:36  <Stablean> <tom> hmm need to expand my factory drop
19:33:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im gonna build one soon :P Still havent done anything with my metal
19:34:05  <Stablean> <tom> lol
19:34:33  <Stablean> <tom> 4 platforms won't be enough
19:34:49  <Stablean> <tom> but i won't have enough room for anymore wittout moving my overflow
19:34:58  <Stablean> <tom> and the whole platform really
19:35:55  <Stablean> <tom> why has someone built a road over my track
19:36:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol @ yellow
19:36:05  <Stablean> <tom> someone is gonna loose some buses sooner or later
19:36:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:36:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nando bridge his track?
19:36:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And btw for the name command you dont need <> :)
19:36:53  <Stablean> <<Nando>> maybe
19:36:55  <Stablean> <tom> it's in your favour if you bridge my track
19:37:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol maybe?
19:37:10  <Stablean> <<Nando>> hahahaha
19:37:19  <Stablean> <<Nando>> of course
19:38:15  <Stablean> <tom> stupid factory is outputting all the good crates to the wrong platform :/
19:38:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
19:38:39  <Stablean> <tom> gotta remake my other one now
19:39:09  <Stablean> <tom> why is it costing me to put my trains in the depot lol
19:39:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Autorenew on?
19:39:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> If yes then it is replacing them because they are old
19:39:39  <Stablean> <tom> damn it
19:39:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:39:45  <Stablean> <tom> i can't build my station where it was
19:40:27  <Stablean> <tom> god dman frondwood
19:40:37  <Stablean> <tom> EAT MY TREES
19:40:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
19:42:20  <Stablean> <tom> amg
19:42:30  <Stablean> <tom> stupid trainstations i can't spread them enough
19:43:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> well at least it isnt 5 like it was 2 games ago :/
19:43:25  <Stablean> <tom> really
19:43:27  <Stablean> <tom> wow
19:43:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> or 4 we've had sometimes with FIRS games
19:43:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh god yeah, ouch
19:44:03  <Stablean> <tom> FIRS?
19:44:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ill let sylf expain :)
19:44:30  <Stablean> <tom> i have heard of it but i do not know what it is
19:44:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's the alternative industry set
19:44:44  <Stablean> <tom> ahh ok
19:44:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> in FIRS, farms are built in several clusters
19:45:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> if we allow big station spread, it makes servicing farms too easy
19:45:18  <Stablean> <tom> ahh
19:45:41  <Stablean> <tom> EAT MY TREES
19:45:59  <Stablean> <tom> -.- still won't let me place my station
19:46:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> did you bomb the trees first?
19:46:21  <Stablean> <tom> no
19:46:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> which town are you a?
19:46:32  <Stablean> <tom> they really don't like me
19:46:32  <Stablean> <Sylf> atL
19:46:36  <Stablean> <tom> frondwood
19:46:56  <Stablean> <tom> i have trees visiablility off so i can't see them
19:47:00  <Stablean> <tom> they get in the way
19:47:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> do that
19:47:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> on your own
19:47:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> there
19:47:40  <Stablean> <tom> much better
19:47:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> and planting againg and again won't help
19:48:20  <Stablean> <tom> grr i can't put the station in the right place so as to reconnect it to my line
19:49:39  <Stablean> <tom> wow it costs so much to bridge over water
19:49:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Only if the tiles arent flat...
19:50:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Bridge costs are exactly the same if you bridge off a straigh tile
19:50:37  <Stablean> <tom> hmm 900k for this bridge
19:50:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Shouldnt be that
19:50:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> where are you trying to bridge?
19:51:05  <Stablean> <tom> at my factory
19:51:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thats not a straight tile...
19:51:16  <Stablean> <tom> the water is in the goddamn way because i flattened it wrong
19:51:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Because its diagonal TF costs are applied when bridging because it has to be filled in
19:52:08  <Stablean> <tom> aww that sucks
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19:54:52  <Stablean> <tom> -.-
19:55:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Need new locos :/
19:55:05  <Stablean> <tom> stupid trains getting lost and stuck lol
19:55:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
19:55:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> need diesel or elec locos
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19:59:37  <Stablean> <tom> lol i hade -692k profit last year :/
19:59:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
20:02:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BRB
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20:08:27  <Stablean> <tom> hmm i see what you mean with PBS isn't working properly the trains stop at every signal even if it isn't occupied
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20:25:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> bk
20:25:58  <Stablean> <tom> welcome back
20:26:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ty :)
20:26:07  <Stablean> <tom> I saw what you mean about PBS not working
20:26:13  <Stablean> <tom> the trains stop at every signal
20:26:19  <Stablean> <tom> yellow is using them
20:26:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Yep
20:26:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> O god
20:26:54  <Stablean> <tom> also
20:27:16  <Stablean> <tom> 3 Forests right next to each other :D
20:27:31  <Stablean> <tom> up near new grenwell
20:27:37  <Stablean> <tom> its great
20:27:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
20:28:15  <Stablean> <tom> lol my operating profit sucks because i bought that boat -.-
20:29:28  <Stablean> <tom> hehe large advertising campains ftw
20:29:41  <Stablean> <tom> it increases the coal production loads
20:29:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol i never use those
20:30:05  <Stablean> <tom> I've been using them to increase coal producting and wood production
20:30:15  <Stablean> <tom> though you have to use about 5-10 of them before you get a decent rise
20:32:00  <Stablean> <tom> brb
20:32:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> k
20:35:29  <Stablean> <tom> why are my trains not upgrading
20:35:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They have acess to depots?
20:35:49  <Stablean> <tom> they should
20:35:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Check...
20:35:58  <Stablean> <tom> there is a depot on most stations and a few on the lines
20:36:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea
20:36:34  <Stablean> <tom> nvm obviously they didn't have access
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20:41:32  <Stablean> <tom> should i upgrade to electric lines?>
20:41:38  <Stablean> <tom> I think i might
20:41:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well theres a nice electric loco coming out soon
20:41:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I got offered it
20:42:04  <Stablean> <tom> gonna have to stop all my trains and put them in the depot
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20:43:43  <Stablean> <tom> this is the only trouble with terminus stations
20:43:53  <Stablean> <tom> sending trains to depots is really annoying
20:43:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Yep
20:44:30  <Stablean> <tom> now to select my whole train network and change to electric
20:44:48  <Stablean> <tom> oh wow you can build fences now
20:45:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Thats been there before
20:45:13  <Stablean> <tom> lol never saw it
20:45:47  <Stablean> <tom> gotta make sure my tracks are deserted
20:46:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Arrr ffs i forgot how i build overflows last time
20:46:49  <Stablean> <tom> lol
20:47:07  <Stablean> <tom> you can take a look at my stations :P
20:47:52  <Stablean> <tom> ok i think thats all converted
20:47:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hmm
20:48:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Im sure thats how i did it basically the same
20:50:43  <Stablean> <tom> wow powerful electric train
20:50:47  <Stablean> <tom> ns 1000
20:51:26  <Stablean> <tom> stupid trains
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20:54:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Working now :)
20:55:43  <Stablean> <tom> wtf
20:55:49  <Stablean> <tom> why do trains keep doing this
20:55:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
20:55:57  <Stablean> <tom> at new grenwell woods
20:56:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I told you to add the splits
20:56:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> The stop trains doign that
20:56:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *they
20:56:34  <Stablean> <tom> ahh ok
20:56:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Also you should add a direct path from the depot to the exit
20:57:07  <Stablean> <tom> i do
20:57:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Like that
20:57:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Your splits are the wrong way
20:58:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Should always branch out of the was the train is coming in...
20:58:18  <Stablean> <tom> eh?
20:58:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Like mine
20:58:30  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> That is wrong
20:58:37  <Stablean> <tom> oh i see
20:59:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont forget thedepot to exit track..
20:59:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :)
20:59:41  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
20:59:48  <Stablean> <tom> i always forget that little bit
20:59:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:00:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I do a lot too
21:02:00  <Stablean> <tom> lol a tennis court
21:02:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:02:14  <Stablean> <tom> oh no wait
21:02:20  <Stablean> <tom> its a stadium lol
21:02:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
21:02:38  <Stablean> <tom> just hadn't built properly yet XD
21:03:01  <Stablean> <tom> sometimes i wonder how they fit the population of the towns into the towns
21:03:08  <Stablean> <tom> they are tiny lol
21:03:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol i know
21:04:27  <Stablean> <tom> grr its still doing it at new grenwell woods
21:04:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> really?
21:04:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
21:05:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea why...
21:05:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You sure its fully electrified?
21:06:25  <Stablean> <tom> hmmm
21:06:35  <Stablean> <tom> they won't take the depot track
21:07:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Try removing the stations around the main station?
21:07:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Probably not the problem but im out of ideas...
21:07:47  <Stablean> <tom> hmm then the forests won't be connected :D:
21:07:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Use non track tile stations
21:08:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Like i do
21:08:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Industrial Raw materials then place the wood ones
21:09:22  <Stablean> <tom> hmm still no
21:09:27  <Stablean> <tom> stupid path finder
21:09:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea then :/
21:11:17  <Stablean> <tom> I'm not gonna sit here all night reseting this damn thing lol
21:11:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lool
21:11:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Remove the depot and just leave it as a normal terminus fr now?
21:12:42  <Stablean> <tom> i'll leave it like that for now
21:13:06  <Stablean> <tom> shame block signals mean they can't leave and enter at the same time
21:13:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
21:13:37  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Theres always pbs even though its messing up atm :/
21:13:47  <Stablean> <tom> well that was weird i wonder what was causing that
21:13:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep
21:14:43  <Stablean> <tom> oh well that will do
21:15:11  <Stablean> <tom> it gets quiet full quiet quickly anyway that station so it shouldn't block anything
21:17:18  <Stablean> <tom> Gonna have to make Pax one day
21:17:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I really cba atm :P
21:18:03  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
21:18:14  <Stablean> <tom> I really wanna make a decent one
21:18:23  <Stablean> <tom> but Not on this game anyway
21:19:12  <Stablean> <tom> on your FFD coal 1 station you don't have a depot station exit
21:19:40  <Stablean> <tom> unless you built it a different way to i do
21:19:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ooh
21:19:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No i do
21:19:57  <Stablean> <tom> ahh nvm you built it differently
21:19:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
21:19:59  <Stablean> <tom> See change confuses me
21:20:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
21:20:20  <Stablean> <tom> haha big overflow on the steel mill pickup
21:20:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yep :)
21:21:23  <Stablean> <tom> i need more iron ore
21:21:29  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Me too :/
21:22:01  <Stablean> <tom> STAY AWAY FROM MY IRON :P
21:22:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
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21:30:49  <Stablean> <tom> ahhhh connecting things together is a pain
21:30:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol its easy!
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21:36:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey Twerk
21:37:50  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> ola
21:37:56  <Stablean> <tom> herro
21:38:13  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> i really should think up a nick to use here
21:38:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:38:19  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> twerk sounds a lot like twerp :p
21:38:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol i was thinking that too
21:40:00  <Stablean> <tom> So many bridges
21:40:49  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> jam at guffinford mines
21:41:49  <Stablean> <tom> oh ffs
21:41:55  <Stablean> <tom> stupid trains are doing it again
21:42:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
21:42:25  <Stablean> <tom> gonna have to rebuild this station
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21:43:18  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> put some diagonal tiles after the station
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21:43:46  <Stablean> <tom> yeah its one of the stations i didn't remake yet :/
21:43:58  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> there works too
21:44:32  <Stablean> <tom> i still have no idea why they need to be there MrD has tried explaining but didn't make it much clearer really :P
21:44:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol ask V :)
21:44:54  <Stablean> <tom> if he eve comes on :P
21:45:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> He hasnt been here as much lately actually, weird :P
21:45:41  <Stablean> <tom> well the overflow seems to be working on all my other stations now
21:46:50  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> makes the pathfinder think its not a dead end i think
21:47:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Basically what i said :P
21:47:06  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
21:47:33  <Stablean> <tom> I'll ask V as well if he comes online
21:47:45  <Stablean> <tom> he will probably just  say the same thing though i bet XD
21:47:52  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
21:48:47  <Stablean> <tom> i probably could have used less bridges in this thing if i had connect it all together
21:49:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Why dont you? :P
21:49:12  <Stablean> <tom> i'm surpirzed that guys buses havent been run down yet
21:49:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Must be lucky
21:49:29  <Stablean> <tom> i could but i have no idea where everything leads to now :P
21:49:59  <Stablean> <tom> obviously don't have enough trains going down that section of track
21:50:08  <Stablean> <tom> i wonder wether adding more will help
21:50:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol 'help'
21:50:31  <Stablean> <tom> hehe
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21:50:39  <Stablean> <tom> GO train GO
21:50:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> o sheet jam
21:50:43  <Stablean> <tom> damn
21:51:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dunno why the overflows are failing...
21:51:21  <Stablean> <tom> yeah same
21:51:30  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> i had the same thing in a private game
21:51:34  <Stablean> <tom> The signals must have changed somehow
21:51:43  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> exact copy of one i seen working, but couldnt get it to work
21:51:45  <Stablean> <tom> because PBS isn't working properly either
21:51:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I think server config was messed with...
21:51:50  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has requested an admin
21:52:00  <TWerkhoven> !setdef
21:52:00  <Stablean> *** TWerkhoven has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
21:52:07  <planetmaker> hm?
21:52:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS and overflows arent functioning correctly..
21:52:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Trains are waiting at PBS even with !setdef
21:52:32  <planetmaker> that's a savegame issue then
21:52:34  <Stablean> <tom> making LL_RR MrD?
21:52:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yeah
21:52:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
21:52:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Its been like this for two games now
21:53:00  <Stablean> <tom> Yeah my overflows suddenly stopped working
21:53:03  <Stablean> <tom> some of them work
21:53:06  <Stablean> <tom> some of them don't
21:53:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well who made this map?
21:53:43  <Stablean> <tom> Sylf
21:54:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Cant you check to see the problem and tell him pm?
21:54:43  <Stablean> <tom> hehe i love how when we use !admin its as if one of the admins wakes up
21:54:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
21:54:55  <Stablean> <tom> just the way he responded sound like he was sleeping
21:55:04  <planetmaker> this admin rather should sleep now though
21:55:13  <Stablean> <tom> Haha
21:55:28  <Stablean> <V453000> hy
21:55:28  <Stablean> <tom> Whats the time where you at planet make?
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21:55:30  <Stablean> <tom> hey V
21:55:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi V
21:55:39  <Stablean> <tom> Ok i have a question for you V
21:55:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well its hard to play with stuff broken :/
21:55:56  <Stablean> <tom> why do you need diagonal track before an entrance to a station when useing block signals
21:55:56  <Stablean> <V453000> yarr?
21:56:18  <Stablean> <V453000> because it needs to "simulate" the junction for lost trains
21:56:32  <Stablean> <V453000> try it with lost trains (for example a train without orders)
21:56:47  <Stablean> <tom> what would it do make it turn around?
21:56:51  <Stablean> <V453000> note: the "arrows" (little pieces of track) might not solve it
21:56:59  <Stablean> <V453000> no
21:57:06  <Stablean> <V453000> it would make it choose the correct platform
21:57:20  <Stablean> <tom> ok
21:57:26  <Stablean> <tom> i sort of understand what your saying
21:57:29  <Stablean> <V453000> just try it
21:57:34  <Stablean> <V453000> that will explain it for you
21:57:44  <planetmaker> tom: midnight
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21:57:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> arr ffs
21:57:49  <Stablean> <V453000> after all, experience gained by yourself is the best one you could gain
21:57:56  <Stablean> <tom> Lol planet maker
21:58:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Can somone please tell Sylf how to fix this then????
21:58:16  <Stablean> <V453000> what is wrong?
21:58:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS is broken
21:58:26  <Stablean> <V453000> ooh
21:58:28  <Stablean> <V453000> how unfortunate
21:58:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And some overflows randomly stop working
21:58:30  <Stablean> <V453000> where
21:58:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBG Coal 1
21:58:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Wait till another train comes in
21:59:01  <Stablean> <tom> and one of my forest ones stopped working so i removed it
21:59:04  <Stablean> <tom> it was a pain
21:59:10  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
21:59:14  <Stablean> <V453000> you screwed up MrD2DG
21:59:18  <Stablean> <V453000> cant even comy a fucking station
21:59:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Where...?
21:59:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LOOL
21:59:26  <Stablean> <V453000> at the station you said
21:59:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> They always worked before...
21:59:41  <Stablean> <V453000> has nothing to do with settings At All
21:59:43  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
21:59:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> EVEN PBS?
21:59:49  <Stablean> <V453000> depends on station rotation
21:59:55  <Stablean> <V453000> WTF does PBS have to do with this
21:59:58  <Stablean> <V453000> there is none
22:00:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> How the fuuuurk was i supposed to know that...
22:00:05  <planetmaker> thanks, V453000 for looking at it :-)
22:00:11  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont know nor care MrD2DG :P
22:00:13  <planetmaker> good night
22:00:15  <Stablean> <V453000> point is:
22:00:17  <Stablean> <V453000> gn pm
22:00:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PBS has nothing to do with this just saying is messed up too
22:00:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> gn
22:00:23  <Stablean> <tom> night PM
22:00:28  <TWerkhoven> gn pm
22:00:34  <Stablean> <V453000> when you use 2way eol, SOMETIMES you need to split the trains RIGHT in front of the sinals
22:00:42  <V453000> !players
22:00:45  <Stablean> V453000: Client 328 is TWerkhoven, a spectator
22:00:45  <Stablean> V453000: Client 332 is V453000, a spectator
22:00:45  <Stablean> V453000: Client 318 (Red) is tom, in company 1 (tom Transport)
22:00:45  <Stablean> V453000: Client 334 is BennyCZ, a spectator
22:00:45  <Stablean> V453000: Client 294 (White) is MrD2DG, in company 5 (Track+Train Tansport)
22:00:50  <V453000> !rcon move 332 5
22:00:50  <Stablean> V453000: ‎[All] MrD2DG: >_>
22:00:50  <Stablean> V453000: ‎*** V453000 has joined company #5
22:01:06  <Stablean> <V453000> which is why I built the station this way
22:01:09  <Stablean> <tom> Yeah PBS isn't working the train stop at every PS
22:01:17  <Stablean> <V453000> dont use PBS
22:01:23  <Stablean> <tom> I'm not
22:01:26  <Stablean> <V453000> :)
22:01:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Were not, just saying thats messed up
22:01:30  <Stablean> <tom> I'm just saying its broken
22:01:40  <Stablean> <tom> if you look at yellow's lines you will see
22:01:50  <Stablean> <V453000> MrD2DG: all of my stuff has a reason usually ;( when you copy it, copy it all is usually wise
22:02:05  <Stablean> <V453000> tom: on purpose
22:02:15  <Stablean> <V453000> the settings for PBS are slow
22:02:17  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I found these in the last PSG i just copied what i remembered :)
22:02:19  <Stablean> <tom> Ahh
22:02:29  <Stablean> <tom> so its set like that to stop people using them
22:02:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No tom
22:02:45  <Stablean> <tom> And i copied MrD :P
22:02:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> It usually works V just hates PBS so much he doesnt care :P
22:02:51  <Stablean> <tom> lol
22:02:59  <Stablean> <V453000> for a reason (maybe)
22:03:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes you've said before :)
22:03:21  <Stablean> <tom> ok i see what you have done
22:03:35  <Stablean> <tom> So how come it sometimes works they way he had it built before but not other times
22:03:45  <Stablean> <tom> just becuase of the pathfinder?
22:03:47  <Stablean> <V453000> hard to say really
22:03:53  <Stablean> <V453000> PUT IT THIS WAY:
22:03:57  <Stablean> <V453000> oh sry caps
22:04:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Lol
22:04:17  <Stablean> <V453000> well put it this way: it doesnt work with some rotations, so what you do: make it proof to that mistake
22:04:24  <Stablean> <V453000> which is the thing I made
22:04:36  <Stablean> <tom> so you moved the split a couple of tiles foward
22:04:40  <Stablean> <tom> and it now works
22:04:48  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
22:04:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just make it always split right before signals
22:04:58  <Stablean> <V453000> I cant exlain that too logically really
22:05:00  <Stablean> <tom> The way this game works is weird
22:05:03  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
22:05:09  <Stablean> <V453000> it just works that way
22:05:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> PF's in most games have 'quirks'
22:05:34  <Stablean> <V453000> and you havent even seen the most weird moments
22:05:47  <Stablean> <V453000> usually exremely rare ones
22:05:51  <Stablean> <V453000> but still
22:05:51  <Stablean> <tom> im just trying to understand the diagonal stuff
22:05:57  <Stablean> <V453000> right
22:05:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> xD
22:06:04  <Stablean> <tom> so without the diagonals it takes the platform that is right infront of it
22:06:10  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
22:06:14  <Stablean> <tom> with them it takes the top one
22:06:25  <Stablean> <V453000> basically yes
22:06:29  <Stablean> <V453000> considering lost trains
22:06:54  <Stablean> <tom> ahh i see
22:07:02  <Stablean> <tom> so it makes the lost train take the empty platfrom
22:07:06  <Stablean> <tom> platform*
22:07:08  <Stablean> <V453000> basically yes
22:07:13  <Stablean> <V453000> lets try to exaplin
22:07:15  <Stablean> <V453000> explain
22:07:19  <Stablean> <V453000> you have the 2way signals
22:07:39  <Stablean> <V453000> if a 2way signal is red (platform full) then the train is trying to go anywhere else but there. ANYWHERE. But this has one exception...
22:08:24  <Stablean> <V453000> if none of the "anywhere" paths have a junction (option of 2) then it is seen as "dead end" and ignored. Then is chosen the closest signal (straight)
22:08:26  <Stablean> <V453000> so
22:08:36  <Stablean> <V453000> the "arrows" basically simulate the 2nd option
22:08:38  <Stablean> <tom> ahhh
22:08:40  <Stablean> <V453000> -> the red 2way works
22:08:48  <Stablean> <tom> because a two way signal has to have two options
22:08:54  <Stablean> <V453000> basically, yes
22:09:05  <Stablean> <V453000> again, in some station rotations it would work without the "arrows"
22:09:17  <Stablean> <tom> Damn rotations
22:09:19  <Stablean> <V453000> but to make it ultimately usable and 100% sure it will work you need to use it
22:09:29  <Stablean> <V453000> ignore rotations, just use what works
22:09:31  <Stablean> <tom> better to be safe than sorry
22:09:40  <Stablean> <V453000> exactly
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22:10:03  <Stablean> <tom> might mess about with more things like that i have 4 mil to spend and work with
22:10:38  <Stablean> <V453000> might :p
22:11:18  <Stablean> <tom> well i wanna learn how the train logic stuff works
22:11:24  <Stablean> <tom> i've looks at it before
22:11:27  <Stablean> <V453000> :) patience
22:11:35  <Stablean> <tom> but Some of it if not all goes over my head :P
22:15:01  <Stablean> <tom> this one i sort of understand
22:15:30  <Stablean> <tom> obviouslt i need a faster train
22:17:07  <Stablean> <tom> I know this gate is used in the self regulating networks
22:17:17  <Stablean> <tom> but i have no idea what it is called
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22:17:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Logic gate?
22:17:53  <Stablean> <tom> yeah
22:18:00  <Stablean> <tom> near lindham woods
22:18:06  <Stablean> <tom> one of my stations
22:18:17  <Stablean> <tom> infact just go to great fludham heights
22:18:43  <Stablean> <tom> haven't got any quick enough trains for it to be really effective
22:18:44  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P I see it i havent seen one of those in an SRNW
22:19:14  <Stablean> <tom> hmm it was in a tutorial map about them
22:19:40  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh well if thats supposed to be a pickup station then normally long dummy trains are used instead
22:19:47  <Stablean> <V453000> just try to use it, no other way to learn it
22:20:03  <Stablean> <tom> i know you can get a red signal from it when a train is in a station
22:20:29  <Stablean> <tom> so it could be used to stop trains from going into another station until the train has left
22:20:50  <Stablean> <tom> or it could be used to stop trains going into a station untill the train is in the station
22:21:00  <Stablean> <tom> by linking it up with this bit
22:21:06  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm
22:21:10  <Stablean> <V453000> well
22:21:20  <Stablean> <V453000> there are various usages
22:21:29  <Stablean> <V453000>  you have to use it at the situation of need usually
22:21:31  <Stablean> <V453000> not just "cause"
22:21:52  <Stablean> <V453000> after all, if it is doable by other way than logic, then you should (in my opinion) do that
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22:25:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Gonna go now, BB
22:25:22  <Stablean> <tom> cya
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22:31:37  <Stablean> <tom> there
22:31:40  <Stablean> <tom> got it to work lol
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23:01:59  <Stablean> <tom> the trains don't go fast enough for this gate
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23:44:21  <Stablean> <tom> hehe set up a mini SRN
23:44:37  <Stablean> <tom> It's only small but it was merely to test it out
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23:58:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where is yout SRNW then?

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