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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 28th July 2011:
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09:59:49  <planetmaker> !playercount
09:59:49  <Stablean> planetmaker: Number of players: 0 (2 spectators)
09:59:53  <planetmaker> !clients
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10:04:42  <planetmaker> !rcon save continue
10:04:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map...
10:04:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to continue.sav
10:04:58  <planetmaker> !players
10:05:01  <Stablean> planetmaker: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:05:10  <planetmaker> !playercount
10:05:10  <Stablean> planetmaker: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators)
10:05:15  <planetmaker> !rcon exit
10:05:16  <Stablean> Server has exited
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10:05:33  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
10:05:33  <Stablean> Starting new game: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
10:05:33  <Stablean> Landscape: temperate
10:05:33  <Stablean> Dimensions: 512x512
10:05:33  <Stablean> Starting year: 1945
10:05:33  *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean
10:05:35  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
10:05:36  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.1.2-RC1 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game"
10:05:42  <planetmaker> !rcon load continue
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10:08:59  <Ammler> what is that command?
10:09:15  <Ammler> ah
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10:15:12  <planetmaker> Ammler: now it just needs the boot script to call startup
10:15:34  <planetmaker> if you know by heart where to add that, please do upon startup of runlevel 3 :-)
10:16:41  <planetmaker> (mind, it needs to be user ottdc)
10:18:32  <Ammler> planetmaker: you know it has already such things :-)
10:18:40  <planetmaker> no?
10:18:41  <Ammler> e.g. ./bin/start.sh -c
10:19:10  <planetmaker> ok, doesn't exist. But if I just rename / move it, it'll work?
10:19:21  <Ammler> user start scripts are most easy added as cron: @reboot...
10:19:36  <planetmaker> I don't understand
10:21:01  <Ammler> stable has it for sure
10:21:10  <planetmaker> what has it?
10:21:19  <Ammler> where is your script?
10:21:23  <Ammler> start.sh
10:21:23  <planetmaker> and where?
10:21:41  <planetmaker> there's no ~ottdc/bin/start.sh
10:21:54  <Ammler> ~/svn-stable/autopilot/bin/start.sh
10:22:04  <planetmaker> yes, autopilot
10:22:08  <planetmaker> but that's no autostart
10:22:17  <planetmaker> it just starts autopilot
10:22:37  <planetmaker> what I want is a start of screen and inside that ap+ being started
10:22:40  <planetmaker> and that's what I wrote
10:22:58  <planetmaker> thus that the server comes up without anyone of us starting it manually
10:23:11  <Ammler> ok, now just run inside your screen ./bin/start.sh -c
10:23:36  <planetmaker> ok, but that's not the main issue :-)
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10:23:39  <Ammler> and add your script to crontab
10:23:45  <planetmaker> I need that script run on startup
10:23:57  <planetmaker> uhm... crontab? I don't want it executed regularily
10:24:00  <planetmaker> just once
10:24:02  <Ammler> @reboot /path/to/your/script
10:24:33  <Ammler> @reboot is a special "tag" for cron
10:26:50  <planetmaker> sorry, I find no single manual of crontab which explains that to me
10:27:27  <Ammler> http://team.macnn.com/drafts/crontab_defs.html
10:27:28  <Webster> Title: Crontab Command Definitions (at team.macnn.com)
10:27:44  <Ammler> I just made "crontab reboot" with search :-P
10:28:30  <Ammler> @reboot cd /home/dev/redmine && bundle exec unicorn_rails -c unicorn.conf -E production -D
10:28:38  <Ammler> example for starting devzone
10:29:09  <Ammler> I use this quite a lot
10:29:26  <Ammler> creating user init scripts sounds silly to me
10:30:47  <planetmaker> so... why is not every minute a new openttd instance started:
10:30:51  <planetmaker> * * * * * /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/bin/restart.sh
10:30:51  <planetmaker> * * * * * /home/ottdc/svn-yacd/autopilot/bin/restart.sh
10:31:16  <Ammler> */1
10:31:30  <Ammler> check the script :-)
10:32:24  <Ammler> it has two parts, another is the custom command
10:38:03  <planetmaker> i see :-)
10:38:56  <Ammler> planetmaker: any clue, why it doesn't bridge game chat anymore?
10:39:15  <planetmaker> no clue :-(
10:39:18  <Ammler> something changed between 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 regarding it?
10:39:33  <Ammler> oh
10:39:38  <Ammler> I guess I know
10:39:47  <Ammler> you started with your broken shell
10:40:11  <Ammler> run locale
10:40:18  <Ammler> the screen is not utf-8
10:41:02  <planetmaker> :-O
10:41:40  <Stablean> Saving game...
10:41:52  <Stablean> Server closed down by admin
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10:42:39  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
10:42:39  <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
10:42:39  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
10:42:39  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.1.2-RC1 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game"
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10:42:49  <Ammler> planetmaker: run locale now
10:43:30  <kuch3n> hello
10:43:31  <kuch3n> !date
10:43:31  <Stablean> kuch3n: 13 Mar 1947
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10:44:17  <Ammler> Salü Kuchen
10:44:27  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Ammler, you are german :p
10:44:39  <Ammler> no, but almost :-P
10:47:44  <Ammler> planetmaker: according to some docs, you should start sceen with -U
10:48:14  <Ammler> well, or fix your system :-P
10:50:41  <Stablean> *** kuch3n has started a new company (#1)
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10:52:40  <planetmaker> nah, rather autostart screen there. It's anyway required and the better solution ;-)
10:52:52  <Ammler> yes, where is your script?
10:53:01  <planetmaker> ~ottdc/startup
10:53:06  <planetmaker> I added it to crontab already
10:53:17  <Stablean> <kuch3n> you guys need some server support?
10:54:17  <Ammler> start.sh does already use screen
10:54:28  <planetmaker> but it doesn't start one
10:55:21  <Ammler> yep
10:56:00  <Ammler> screen -X screen $(pwd)/stable.sh $SAVE
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10:57:25  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
10:57:29  <Ammler> basically, it should suiffice to run just "screen" on startup and then execute the script, deosn't?
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11:10:32  <Stablean> <kuch3n> Is it normal that trains are stopping in front of PBS Signals?
11:12:28  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings interval
11:12:28  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
11:12:28  <Stablean> Ammler: pf.path_backoff_interval = 255
11:12:28  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
11:12:31  <Ammler> yes
11:12:35  <Ammler> wow
11:12:55  <Ammler> the game looks setup from a pbs hater :-)
11:17:13  <kuch3n> Can you change it?
11:25:27  <kuch3n> !setting pf.path_backoff_interval = 0
11:25:42  <kuch3n> !rcon setting pf.path_backoff_interval = 0
11:25:42  <Stablean> kuch3n: you are not allowed to use !rcon
11:29:12  <Ammler> !rcon setting pf.path_backoff_interval = 0
11:29:12  <Stablean> Ammler: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
11:29:12  <Stablean> Ammler: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
11:29:19  <Ammler> !rcon setting pf.path_backoff_interval 0
11:29:27  <Ammler> !rcon setting pf.path_backoff_interval
11:29:27  <Stablean> Ammler: Current value for 'pf.path_backoff_interval' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 255)
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11:29:51  <Stablean> <Ryton> hey
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11:30:29  <Stablean> <Ryton> hi troy
11:30:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Ryton, you might want to put a pw on your comp
11:30:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and hi :P
11:30:53  <Stablean> <Ryton> nah, doesnt matter
11:31:04  <Stablean> <Ryton> I dont care if it is destroyed or boycotted
11:31:31  <Stablean> <Ryton> just playing and trying out some things
11:31:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> did Sylf make this game?
11:31:49  <Stablean> <Ryton> no idea
11:31:56  <Stablean> <Ryton> it was here today ;-)
11:32:06  <Stablean> <kuch3n> No Planes anymore :(
11:32:12  <Stablean> <Ryton> nope
11:32:15  <Stablean> <Ryton> too easy then
11:32:25  <Stablean> <Ryton> they are there, but extremely expensive :-)
11:32:37  <Stablean> <Ryton> but: on the bright side:
11:32:43  <Stablean> <Ryton> vehicle breakdowns are off
11:32:58  <Stablean> <Ryton> Troy, if you want to coop
11:33:00  <Stablean> <Ryton> you can :-)
11:33:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they are usuallly
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11:33:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nah, im off in a sec
11:33:11  <Stablean> <Ryton> i just started the game this morning, with 15 trains
11:33:18  <Stablean> <Ryton> and am filthy tirch already now :))
11:33:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 1600+ money
11:33:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not filthy rich yet
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13:20:42  <kuch3n>  nice skittlets commercial: http://vimeo.com/stepcousins/skittles
13:20:43  <Webster> Title: Skittles - Newlyweds - Dir. Cousins [Not affiliated with Wrigley or Skittles. Contains explicit content not suitable for minors] on Vimeo (at vimeo.com)
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14:25:36  <MrD2DG> !archive
14:25:39  <MrD2DG> !archives
14:26:08  <MrD2DG> ¬_¬
14:26:16  <Stablean> <Ryton> hi
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14:27:57  <MrD2DG> Hi
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14:56:31  <planetmaker> <Ammler> basically, it should suiffice to run just "screen" on startup and then execute the script, deosn't? <--yes. But the script needs to be started *inside* the screen
14:56:33  <planetmaker> not in parallel
14:57:04  <Ammler> no, that is the point about the script
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15:56:52  <Ammler> planetmaker: the script does care about using active screen
15:57:50  <planetmaker> ok, if it does
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16:39:43  <planetmaker> !rcon companies
16:39:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'kuch3n Transport'  Year Founded: 1947  Money: 2023233  Loan: 0  Value: 2186742  (T:14, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
16:39:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Ryton transport -free to join! '  Year Founded: 1945  Money: 14445667  Loan: 0  Value: 15255710  (T:39, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
16:39:43  <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Green) Company Name: 'Dargor Transport'  Year Founded: 1963  Money: 95883  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
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18:07:40  <Stablean> <Ryton> hi anson
18:07:48  <Stablean> <Ryton> feel free to play with my company
18:07:55  <Stablean> <Ryton> or something else :-)-
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22:40:36  <Sylf> !dl source
22:40:36  <Stablean> Sylf: unknown option "source"
22:40:42  <Sylf> !dl
22:40:42  <Stablean> Sylf: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
22:40:57  <Sylf> !dl autoupdate
22:40:57  <Stablean> Sylf: http://www.openttdcoop.org/winupdater
22:41:04  <Sylf> !dl autostart
22:41:05  <Stablean> Sylf: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart
22:41:13  <Sylf> !dl autottd
22:41:13  <Stablean> Sylf: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/AutoTTD
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23:54:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
23:54:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> hey there
23:54:27  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
23:54:48  <Stablean> <Anson> why do resources always disappear when i load the second train ? :-(
23:54:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
23:55:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Is that PBS problem back?
23:55:38  <Stablean> <Anson> as soon as the first train entered the station, production went down from 60 to 0, and when the first train was filled slowly, the resource disappeared :-(
23:55:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> MrD: I think so
23:56:00  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt CB tell you how to fix it?
23:56:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> what was the setting to fix it again...
23:56:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> He did
23:56:09  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No idea xD
23:56:11  <Stablean> <Sylf> But I forgot to take notes
23:56:21  <Stablean> <Anson> when i played in the afternoon, PBS stopped trains for a moment ... didn't use PBS on my new company now (yet)
23:56:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just remember him saying to change a pbs wait for ticks setting or something from 255 to 1
23:58:33  <Sylf> wait_for_pbs_path is 255 already
23:58:43  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Suposed to be 1
23:58:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *Supposed
23:58:54  <Sylf> minimum is 2
23:59:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> 2 then?
23:59:06  <Sylf> path_backoff_interval is right now set to 1
23:59:08  <Stablean> <Anson> when i watched the problem a few weeks ago, it was that wait time ... in theory 255 should be some kind of "off", but it probably causes a "stop without waiting" or something like that ....
23:59:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
23:59:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well someone test it :P

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