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00:03:08 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 00:03:18 <Stablean> <Sylf> hi 00:03:25 <Stablean> <md> hey 00:13:08 <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#4) 00:23:28 <Stablean> <Sylf> :o station spread is 64 00:23:32 <Stablean> <md> hehe 00:23:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> that's way too dangerous here... gotta fix that 00:24:00 <Stablean> <md> i'm using 7TL as a result 00:24:51 <Stablean> <Sylf> I think I'll shrink the station spread to something like 15 00:24:57 <Stablean> <md> sounds good 00:30:01 <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 15 00:38:31 <Stablean> <md> heh, no PAX trams 01:14:20 <Stablean> <md> hmm, guess 2 locos not enough for TL7 02:01:08 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 03:43:00 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 05:50:49 <Stablean> *** wamx joined the game 05:51:01 <Stablean> *** wamx has left the game (connection lost) 05:51:15 <Stablean> *** wamx joined the game 06:06:39 <Stablean> *** md has left the game (leaving) 06:52:19 <Stablean> *** wamx has left the game (leaving) 06:52:19 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:30:14 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 08:02:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:02:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:03:16 *** md_ has quit IRC 08:03:56 *** md_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:12:33 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 09:13:13 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 09:14:48 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 09:16:55 <Stablean> *** Mks has started a new company (#5) 09:16:55 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:53:39 *** Hanf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:46:25 *** Mazur has quit IRC 11:12:22 <Stablean> *** TrainsOfSodor joined the game 11:13:15 <Stablean> *** TrainsOfSodor has left the game (connection lost) 11:24:43 <Stablean> *** Leylia joined the game 11:32:07 <Stablean> *** Leylia has left the game (leaving) 12:13:25 *** Hanf has quit IRC 12:15:55 *** Hanf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:16:24 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to jplate8 12:18:03 <Stablean> *** jplate8 has left the game (leaving) 13:09:03 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 13:09:03 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:12:55 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to new-name 13:13:55 <Stablean> *** new-name has started a new company (#6) 13:13:55 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:15:20 <Stablean> <new-name> :-) 13:15:28 <Stablean> *** new-name has changed his/her name to Ammler 13:17:30 <Stablean> *** Ammler has changed his/her name to Amm1er 13:18:00 <Stablean> *** Hanf joined the game 13:24:09 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 13:24:35 <Stablean> <Amm1er> Sali Hanf 13:24:50 <Stablean> <Hanf> hey 13:25:14 <Stablean> <Amm1er> if you do what you called , then you like the streams :-) 13:25:32 <Stablean> <Hanf> streams? 13:25:47 <Stablean> <Amm1er> the engines with smoke 13:26:20 <Stablean> <Hanf> hahaha.. something like that 13:28:13 <Stablean> <Amm1er> well, it is no English word, so I assume, you know German a bit? 13:28:33 <Stablean> <Hanf> yeah. but we have to speak english here, right? 13:28:35 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 13:28:37 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Wisepotato 13:28:41 <Stablean> <Amm1er> yep 13:28:41 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> well howdy 13:28:46 <Stablean> <Amm1er> English or Swiss-German 13:28:57 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> anybody want a buddy? :) 13:29:16 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> no? :P 13:29:20 <Stablean> <Hanf> I'm english but I speak german 13:29:31 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I do not build, just made company to get unpaused 13:29:43 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has joined spectators 13:29:59 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> uh.. why cant i build anything 13:30:09 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you are spec 13:30:15 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you joined as "Player" 13:30:15 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> ah. 13:30:18 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> let me rejoin then. 13:30:24 <Stablean> <Amm1er> nono 13:30:26 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh. 13:30:33 <Stablean> <Amm1er> you can siwtch company joined 13:30:35 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato has joined company #8 13:30:37 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :) 13:31:17 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> any rules? 13:31:50 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> k ^^ 13:32:08 <Stablean> <Amm1er> mainly play fair and behave like your opponent is oyu 13:32:27 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> k :) 13:32:37 <Stablean> <Amm1er> and listen and talk to other people 13:32:57 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> ive played on the coop server :) So i know some basics :) 13:33:09 <Ammler> then don't ask :-P 13:33:19 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> shhh 13:33:21 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> long time ago. 13:39:05 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> green? 13:39:22 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh. 13:39:28 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> nobodys playing green ;_; 13:42:07 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:42:50 <Stablean> *** Paul joined the game 13:45:25 <Stablean> *** Paul has left the game (leaving) 13:48:01 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 13:48:10 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi 13:48:29 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> hi :) 13:48:44 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (connection lost) 13:49:17 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 13:49:47 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has joined company #2 13:54:24 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (connection lost) 13:56:14 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 13:57:23 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> WTF tile clearing limit reached? 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(Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 15:07:02 *** ^Spike^- is now known as ^Spike^ 15:07:11 <planetmaker_> yes? 15:07:24 <MrD2DG> Are you guys having hosting problems? 15:07:50 <planetmaker_> a little 15:07:53 <MrD2DG> For the past months the site regularly goes down and stable was unplayable a while ago :/ 15:08:32 <MrD2DG> Thought it might be me but i guess it isnt 15:08:56 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :( 15:09:13 <planetmaker_> not always... our server has some issues sometimes... Our current guess is a kernel issue 15:09:36 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> what kernel is it running on? 15:09:39 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> version* 15:11:19 <planetmaker_> 2.6.32-4-pve 15:14:41 <MrD2DG> Well at least it isnt a bandwith issue that woudl cost monies 15:14:59 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> how much does that cost anyway, /gb? 15:15:03 <planetmaker_> no, bandwidth is no issue. Not even if we used 10x as much as now 15:15:35 <MrD2DG> Hopefully you guys can figure it out, cant play games where you get disconnected everytime you place signals :/ 15:15:35 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> do the openttd servers use a lot of bandwidth? 15:16:10 <planetmaker_> openttd servers don't use terribly lot 15:16:14 <planetmaker_> most is map downloads 15:16:27 *** Ammler- is now known as Ammler 15:16:59 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> which is like.. 1 mb? 15:17:26 <planetmaker_> about, yes. 15:17:32 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:17:34 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> yay 15:17:34 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 15:17:36 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :D 15:17:38 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> somebody joined 15:17:52 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato has joined company #8 15:17:53 <planetmaker_> hm... it only unpauses for two? 15:17:57 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> yeah 15:18:00 <Stablean> <Mks> no 15:18:02 <planetmaker_> shouldn't 15:18:04 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh 15:18:06 <Stablean> <Mks> it unpauses for 1 15:18:13 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> mks, mind giving me some spare money? :P 15:18:19 <Stablean> <Mks> at least thats how it ususally work 15:18:31 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 15:18:56 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh rollback 15:19:07 <Stablean> <Mks> server crashed? 15:19:20 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> woah thanks 15:19:26 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes 15:19:45 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats this 'tile clearing limit' thing? 15:20:02 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah quite annoying if you ask me 15:20:08 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^ VERY 15:20:58 <Stablean> <Mks> I didn't even know you could do like that 15:21:10 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Me too 15:21:26 <Stablean> <Mks> well I know it can be done with server mods and such but 15:21:32 <Stablean> <Mks> can't see any newgrf that would do that 15:21:33 *** planetmaker_ is now known as planetmaker 15:23:28 <planetmaker> @op 15:23:28 *** Webster sets mode: +o planetmaker 15:27:59 <Mks> planetmaker 15:28:52 <Stablean> <Mks> lol you can only clear max 10 tiles 15:29:13 <Stablean> <Mks> max 10 and then you get 1 back every month 15:29:13 <planetmaker> :-) 15:29:23 <Mks> what made it be like that? 15:29:27 <planetmaker> gotta love that :-) 15:29:30 <Mks> not really 15:29:32 <Mks> I hate it 15:29:47 <planetmaker> the terraforming limit settings made it like that 15:29:57 <Mks> ahh 15:30:01 <Mks> I don't mind a tf limit 15:30:07 <Mks> but destroy things limit? 15:30:11 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings terra 15:30:11 <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 15:30:11 <Stablean> Ammler: difficulty.terrain_type = 3 15:30:11 <Stablean> Ammler: construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 64000 15:30:11 <Stablean> Ammler: construction.terraform_frame_burst = 64000 15:30:11 <Stablean> Ammler: gui.link_terraform_toolbar = off 15:30:12 <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message 15:30:18 <planetmaker> indeed it's a separate variable 15:30:19 <Ammler> !more 15:30:20 <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 15:30:25 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> It sucks :/ 15:30:34 <Mks> its a server setting? 15:30:38 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And water TF £100mil? 15:30:42 <planetmaker> yes 15:30:46 <Mks> some maps are like that 15:30:46 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings bulldoze 15:30:46 <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 15:30:47 <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 15:31:00 <Mks> doesn't matter I guess just have to ingore it 15:31:04 <Ammler> !rcon list_settings clear 15:31:04 <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value: 15:31:04 <Stablean> Ammler: construction.clear_per_64k_frames = 100 15:31:04 <Stablean> Ammler: construction.clear_frame_burst = 10 15:31:04 <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value 15:31:08 <Mks> water tf is always expensive on these servers 15:31:09 <planetmaker> I can't particularily say that anything of it is unintentional ;-) 15:31:20 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just but its usually £1mil not 100 :/ 15:31:22 <planetmaker> but the TF / clearance limit might be too low 15:31:35 <planetmaker> I just used a base cost preset ;-) 15:31:57 <planetmaker> it's often feasable to suggest maps for game start :-P 15:32:46 <Mks> <+Stablean> Ammler: construction.clear_frame_burst = 10 so that needs to be higher for it to be possible to clear more? 15:33:33 <planetmaker> that's one of two, yes 15:33:47 <Ammler> how long is 64k frame? 15:33:58 <planetmaker> @calc 64000/74 15:33:58 <Webster> planetmaker: 864.864864865 15:34:02 <planetmaker> 15 minutes 15:34:16 <Ammler> a year 15:34:58 <Ammler> when does limit clearing make sense? 15:35:20 <planetmaker> on a server where everyone can connect. 15:35:28 <planetmaker> then people cannot clear / bulldoze the entire map 15:35:28 <Mks> why? 15:35:32 <Mks> ahh 15:35:36 <Mks> well thats one thing but 15:36:07 <Mks> like its impossible to build near a city almost with such a low limit if they hate you the city your screwed :P 15:36:50 <Mks> shouldn't a limit of like 300 be enough then? you wouldn't be able to clear the map with that 15:37:33 <planetmaker> yes 15:37:51 <planetmaker> feel free to change it 15:38:15 <planetmaker> I meant it as a challange like to enforce low TF. But maybe the same for clearing is too strong 15:38:32 <Ammler> tf is very high 15:38:42 <Ammler> 64k 15:38:46 <planetmaker> hm 15:38:54 <planetmaker> then I uses stupid settings 15:39:46 <Mks> is it possible to change it? 15:39:51 <Mks> I mean now 15:40:03 <Mks> like do 10 tf max and lot higher clear limit? 15:40:12 <planetmaker> !rcon set settingname value 15:40:12 <Stablean> planetmaker: 'settingname' is an unknown setting. 15:40:24 <planetmaker> you have rcon ;-) 15:40:30 <Mks> I know but 15:40:34 <Mks> don't know how to :) 15:40:57 <planetmaker> get the exact setting name and then use rcon 15:41:02 <Mks> so construction.clear_frame_burst 15:41:13 <Mks> rcon construction.clear_frame_burst 100? 15:41:14 <planetmaker> without the part before . 15:41:15 <Mks> for example? 15:41:27 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 15:41:27 <Stablean> planetmaker: Current value for 'clear_frame_burst' is: '10' (min: 0, max: 1073741824) 15:41:30 <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 100 15:41:37 <Mks> ahh 15:41:47 <planetmaker> you might want to change the other one, too 15:41:51 <Mks> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 200 15:42:07 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6) 15:42:14 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 15:42:14 <Stablean> Mks: Current value for 'terraform_frame_burst' is: '64000' (min: 0, max: 1073741824) 15:42:22 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 15 15:42:49 <Mks> !rcon terraform_per_64k_frames 15:42:49 <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildSingleRail MrD2DG date:2005-11-11 tile:00028B7E p1:00000001 p2:00000004 text: price:112 15:42:49 <Stablean> Mks: ERROR: command not found 15:43:02 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 100 15:43:02 <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildSingleRail MrD2DG date:2005-11-17 tile:00028581 p1:00000001 p2:00000002 text: price:112 15:43:02 <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildTrainDepot MrD2DG date:2005-11-18 tile:0002847E p1:00000001 p2:00000001 text: price:592 15:43:22 <Mks> !rcon list_settings terra 15:43:22 <Stablean> Mks: All settings with their current value: 15:43:23 <Stablean> Mks: difficulty.terrain_type = 3 15:43:23 <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 100 15:43:23 <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_frame_burst = 15 15:43:23 <Stablean> Mks: gui.link_terraform_toolbar = off 15:43:24 <Stablean> Mks: you have one more message 15:43:37 <Mks> !rcon list_settings clear 15:43:37 <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildSingleRail MrD2DG date:2005-12-03 tile:00028575 p1:00000001 p2:00000004 text: price:112 15:43:37 <Stablean> Mks: All settings with their current value: 15:43:37 <Stablean> Mks: construction.clear_per_64k_frames = 100 15:43:37 <Stablean> Mks: construction.clear_frame_burst = 200 15:43:37 <Stablean> Mks: Use 'setting' command to change a value 15:43:59 <Mks> alright this should be better 15:44:07 <planetmaker> :-) 15:44:13 <Stablean> <Mks> strange 15:44:25 <Mks> seems I can only clear 20 blocks 15:44:31 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 15:44:31 <Stablean> *** Mks has started a new company (#9) 15:44:45 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 15:44:50 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #5 15:45:00 <Mks> ahh cause I cleared to recent 15:46:10 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:47:33 <Mks> !rcon reset_company 6 15:47:33 <Stablean> Mks: Company deleted. 15:48:01 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:07 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LANDSCAPING LIMIT :? 15:48:36 <planetmaker> makes sense, does it? 15:48:42 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No 15:48:53 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Higher TF costs are supposed to stop that... 15:49:08 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Sometime i want to raise land to make junctions etc i cant now :/ 15:50:59 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 15:51:31 <Stablean> <Mks> mrd2dg you hate the new tf limit now instead? :P 15:51:41 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I hate any limit :) 15:51:51 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I like to build neat so it sorta ruins the game for me 15:52:14 <Stablean> <Mks> well this map is pretty flat 15:52:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes but even so there are still some things id like to level 15:53:04 <planetmaker> well, this map could go even for a terraforming limit of 0 15:53:15 <Stablean> <Mks> no 15:53:16 <planetmaker> here is really no need for TF ;-) 15:53:19 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Any limit is bad... 15:53:20 <planetmaker> well. maybe for tunnels 15:53:27 <Stablean> <Mks> then you can't use tunnels 15:53:31 <planetmaker> yup 15:53:45 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We arent retarded ( well most of us) and know not to TF huge areas etc 15:54:33 <planetmaker> then see it as a challenge 15:54:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont play on stable for a challenge :D 15:55:01 <planetmaker> educational limit then? ;-) 15:55:12 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :'( 15:55:30 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 15:55:31 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'Stablean' company: 255 IP: server 15:55:31 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #3 name: 'Wisepotato' company: 8 IP: 81.204.53.126 15:55:31 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #13 name: 'Mks' company: 5 IP: 83.176.234.98 15:55:31 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #9 name: 'MrD2DG' company: 2 IP: 90.194.131.241 15:55:45 <planetmaker> well, sweet talk mks - he plays, not me ;-) 15:55:58 <planetmaker> i just pay for the server... 15:56:02 <Stablean> <Mks> I know you hate TF planetmaker 15:56:12 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt know Mks was op 15:56:42 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> either way no limit please, TF costs are sufficient IMO to stop stupid players from terrorising the map, they havent failed before :) 15:56:48 <Stablean> <Mks> since you pay for it you can do whatever you want against us 15:56:56 <Stablean> <Mks> well acually 15:57:05 <Stablean> <Mks> I think some tf limit might be good 15:57:15 <Stablean> <Mks> prices aren't high enough really when you have alot of money 15:57:33 <Stablean> <Mks> but if you make em alot higher its like impssible to use even if you just wana tf 1 tile 15:57:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes but if you do manage to make a sucessfull company then surely you must have the sense not to screw with the map 15:58:03 <Stablean> <Mks> mm thats not always the case 15:58:21 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ive never seen otherwise... 15:58:29 <planetmaker> I didn't set a TF, so I didn't do anything there :-P and against no-one ;-) 15:58:58 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No need to change anything IMO I think the previous format worked fine... 15:59:16 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 50 15:59:28 <Stablean> <Mks> well I've raised it a bit now 15:59:34 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/ 15:59:55 <Stablean> <Mks> you can't do unlimited tf but a bit more at least 16:00:16 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 16:00:38 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 16:02:04 <Mks> plantmaker so you still here? 16:02:24 <Mks> !rcon list_settings terra 16:02:24 <Stablean> Mks: CmdRemoveSingleRail MrD2DG date:2007-04-21 tile:00025595 p1:00000001 p2:00000002 text: price:-53 16:02:24 <Stablean> Mks: All settings with their current value: 16:02:24 <Stablean> Mks: difficulty.terrain_type = 3 16:02:25 <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 100 16:02:25 <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_frame_burst = 50 16:02:26 <Stablean> Mks: you have 2 more messages 16:02:27 <planetmaker> not really, I'm about to head out 16:02:34 <Mks> construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 100 16:02:37 <Mks> that value? 16:02:40 <planetmaker> yes 16:02:44 <Mks> affects how fast you regain the ability to tf? 16:03:10 <planetmaker> not quite. It tells you how many corners you may terraform within 15 minutes 16:03:19 <planetmaker> and the other setting how many per frame 16:03:23 <Mks> ohh 16:03:57 * planetmaker wonders how long a frame is 16:04:07 <Mks> so you can tf 100 corners in 15 mins 16:04:18 <planetmaker> yes 16:04:29 <Mks> but only full squares in the same time? 16:04:33 <Mks> I mean 50 16:04:42 <Mks> construction.terraform_frame_burst = 50 16:04:44 <Mks> with that value 16:05:01 <planetmaker> terraform iirc counts the corners 16:05:58 <Mks> so burst value have no other affect really then the max amount you can tf at the same time? 16:06:01 <Mks> more or less 16:06:14 <planetmaker> yes 16:06:27 <planetmaker> it's basically a short-term limit and a long-term limit 16:06:50 <Mks> so the 100 value is how many you can tf under 1 in game year? 16:07:03 <planetmaker> thus you could in principle set the the burst one to very low (like 4) but allow unlimited TF 16:07:11 <planetmaker> thus click, click, click, click... :-P 16:07:16 <Mks> ahhh 16:08:14 <Mks> burst value is also corners? 16:08:23 <Mks> so if its 50 its 10 squares? 16:08:39 <Mks> well 12.xxx 16:08:40 <planetmaker> not 100% sure. one corner affects for TF usually 4 tiles 16:08:51 <planetmaker> on a flat surface at least 16:08:57 <planetmaker> on others it might affect 2 16:09:07 <Mks> ahh true 16:09:10 <planetmaker> but maybe it's also tiles, I'm not sure 16:09:21 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 4 16:09:46 <Mks> mm 16:10:01 <Mks> I don't see the burst value seem to be what limits it? 16:10:26 <planetmaker> burst is short-term 16:10:29 <Mks> !rcon terraform_per_64k_frames 2000 16:10:29 <Stablean> Mks: ERROR: command not found 16:10:34 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 2000 16:11:07 <Mks> ahh yes the 64k affect how fast you regain the ability to tf 16:11:25 <Mks> and as you say the other is mm burst 16:12:15 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 16 16:12:51 <Mks> these settings seem fairly nice at 100 you regain it so slow but at 2000 quite fast 16:13:03 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 1000 16:13:03 <Stablean> Mks: CmdLevelLand MrD2DG date:2008-02-01 tile:000210C7 p1:000212C9 p2:00000000 text: price:36652 16:13:31 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 1500 16:13:47 <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 20 16:33:20 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> mr 16:33:22 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ? 16:33:29 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> may i join you? my rails are just pathetic 16:33:55 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ahh sorry but i wanted to play solo this game, havent been here in a while 16:34:09 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh I've seen you before 16:34:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont mind coop'in next time though 16:34:18 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Who? 16:34:29 <Stablean> <Mks> I've seen you before mrd2dg 16:34:39 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> I wanna do coop 16:34:39 <Stablean> <Mks> might been a long time ago tho not sure :P 16:34:49 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes i play here a lot, used to be called MrMouthy a few years ago 16:35:03 <planetmaker> ach... that's the same? 16:35:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Huh? 16:35:49 <planetmaker> i recall both nicks ;-) 16:35:55 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P 16:36:57 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But yeah i dont mind cooping with you next game wise, unless the PSG starts before then 16:37:06 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> alright sure 16:37:16 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> ill just delete my stuff here in a while, cause ill be afk for a while 16:37:38 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh ok 16:37:40 <Stablean> <Mks> might be a day or a couple of days until next game thought 16:37:46 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I hope not :/ 16:37:55 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh well ill leave a few stations 16:37:55 <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :p 16:37:58 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P 16:39:00 <Stablean> *** Hanf joined the game 16:39:10 <Stablean> <Hanf> hey all 16:39:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi 16:39:59 <Stablean> <Hanf> how are we all this afternoon 16:40:15 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Good, you? 16:41:18 <Stablean> <Hanf> not bad. just taking a break from being productive 16:41:24 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P 16:41:42 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Havent you seen you here before, new to OTTD or just this server? 16:41:44 <Stablean> <Hanf> both 16:41:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh, welcome :) 16:42:07 <Stablean> <Hanf> cheers 16:48:24 <Stablean> <Hanf> there sure are a lot of stations/trains to choose from 16:48:57 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah this server adds newGRF's which do things like add vehicle/station types 16:49:12 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Makes the game a bit more interesting for those too familiar with the default trains :P 16:49:28 <planetmaker> only vanilla is boring 16:49:32 <Stablean> <Hanf> yeah I know, there are just so many idk what to choose :P 16:49:33 <planetmaker> sometimes nice... but :-) 16:49:43 <Stablean> <Mks> I wana use the DB set 16:49:49 <Stablean> <Mks> but it will never be here 16:49:51 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Just compare train stats you'll find the best eventually 16:49:55 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same Mks 16:49:58 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Which it was on bananas 16:50:02 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *wish 16:50:40 <planetmaker> it never will be, I guess 16:50:58 <Stablean> <Mks> unless someone else makes a DB set 16:51:35 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Doubt thats happening anytime soon... 16:52:08 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets :-D 16:53:00 <MrD2DG> Ooh 16:53:10 <planetmaker> not anytime soon, though 16:53:20 <MrD2DG> :/ 16:53:35 <planetmaker> it has too many prerequisites which we still need to fulfill 16:53:47 <planetmaker> among them a lot of patches in OpenTTD ;-) 16:53:49 <Stablean> <Mks> what pre reqs? 16:53:59 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Any other major trainsets in development? 16:54:03 <planetmaker> and a lot of graphics drawn :-P 16:59:58 <V453000> depends what do you call major train set :) 17:00:05 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ooh 17:00:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still around? 17:00:33 <V453000> yes and no 17:00:41 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/ 17:00:54 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You know you'll eventually be brought back here so why leave? :D 17:00:55 <V453000> dont bother with that, http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ur-trains on train set is here though ;) 17:01:06 <V453000> no I wont 17:01:16 <V453000> certainly not _here_ 17:01:39 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/ 17:02:29 <V453000> if you wanted to draw some sprites, just tell me ;) 17:02:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I havent drawn anything in ages :) 17:03:04 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So whos job is it to make the maps here now? 17:03:10 <V453000> does not matter :) I have never drew anything 17:03:26 <V453000> uhm, I have no idea, I have not made a map here for ages 17:03:41 <V453000> Sylf I assume 17:03:45 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i guess i might try one day 17:03:47 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah 17:04:06 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> At least we've got sylf to make some nice maps 17:04:12 <Stablean> <Mks> the biggest concenr is to get all settings right 17:04:18 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^ 17:04:28 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *remembers that PBS problem a few games back 17:04:34 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (not that i use it) 17:04:39 <V453000> PBS is a problem itself :) 17:05:16 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well without you there will be noone to spread the word :P 17:05:31 <V453000> as soon as someone learns enough, there will 17:05:50 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> hmmm 17:06:00 <Stablean> <Hanf> what's wrong with pbs? 17:06:27 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *waits for V to explain*... 17:06:28 <planetmaker> nothing. But you need to know where not to use it 17:06:44 <planetmaker> which is surprisingly often ;-) 17:06:49 <V453000> I am not going to explain anything :) 17:06:56 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :( 17:07:44 <V453000> you heard it many times already 17:08:01 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes i know what the problems are :) 17:17:13 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wisepotato? 17:17:16 <Stablean> <Hanf> hahaha damn, a tractor 17:29:11 <Stablean> <Hanf> why does my northernmost bus station have tons of passengers but my southern has barely any? 17:29:36 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Depends on the proxitimity to buildings how how big they are 17:29:53 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Obv a tower block will provide more passengers than a small house... 17:30:07 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or shack in this case.. 17:30:29 <Stablean> <Hanf> ah I thought there was just 1 tower block in each catchment 17:46:21 <Stablean> *** Hanf has left the game (leaving) 17:50:33 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato has joined spectators 18:02:37 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (connection lost) 18:06:43 *** MrD2DG has quit IRC 18:08:00 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 18:08:00 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:30:06 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato has left the game (leaving) 18:48:45 *** Sylf has quit IRC 18:51:06 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:51:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf 18:52:47 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:52:50 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato joined the game 18:53:46 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato has left the game (leaving) 18:53:46 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:59:38 *** Sylf has quit IRC 19:11:38 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:11:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf 19:26:50 *** Sylf has quit IRC 19:27:02 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:27:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf 19:51:05 *** Mks has quit IRC 19:53:54 *** Mks has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:53:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mks 19:54:54 *** MrD2DG has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:58:20 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:58:21 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 20:17:29 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:30:26 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 20:30:26 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:07:10 *** MrD2DG has quit IRC 21:17:34 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:34:01 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:34:01 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato joined the game 21:34:49 <Stablean> *** Wisepotato has left the game (leaving) 21:34:49 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:11:48 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:19:44 *** Hanf has quit IRC 23:06:56 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC