Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 1st September 2011:
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00:03:08  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
00:03:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> hi
00:03:25  <Stablean> <md> hey
00:13:08  <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#4)
00:23:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> :o  station spread is 64
00:23:32  <Stablean> <md> hehe
00:23:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's way too dangerous here... gotta fix that
00:24:00  <Stablean> <md> i'm using 7TL as a result
00:24:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think I'll shrink the station spread to something like 15
00:24:57  <Stablean> <md> sounds good
00:30:01  <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 15
00:38:31  <Stablean> <md> heh, no PAX trams
01:14:20  <Stablean> <md> hmm, guess 2 locos not enough for TL7
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12:16:24  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to jplate8
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13:12:55  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to new-name
13:13:55  <Stablean> *** new-name has started a new company (#6)
13:13:55  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
13:15:20  <Stablean> <new-name> :-)
13:15:28  <Stablean> *** new-name has changed his/her name to Ammler
13:17:30  <Stablean> *** Ammler has changed his/her name to Amm1er
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13:24:35  <Stablean> <Amm1er> Sali Hanf
13:24:50  <Stablean> <Hanf> hey
13:25:14  <Stablean> <Amm1er> if you do what you called , then you like the streams :-)
13:25:32  <Stablean> <Hanf> streams?
13:25:47  <Stablean> <Amm1er> the engines with smoke
13:26:20  <Stablean> <Hanf> hahaha.. something like that
13:28:13  <Stablean> <Amm1er> well, it is no English word, so I assume, you know German a bit?
13:28:33  <Stablean> <Hanf> yeah. but we have to speak english here, right?
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13:28:37  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Wisepotato
13:28:41  <Stablean> <Amm1er> yep
13:28:41  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> well howdy
13:28:46  <Stablean> <Amm1er> English or Swiss-German
13:28:57  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> anybody want a buddy? :)
13:29:16  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> no? :P
13:29:20  <Stablean> <Hanf> I'm english but I speak german
13:29:31  <Stablean> <Amm1er> I do not build, just made  company to get unpaused
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13:29:59  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> uh.. why cant i build anything
13:30:09  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you are spec
13:30:15  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you joined as "Player"
13:30:15  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> ah.
13:30:18  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> let me rejoin then.
13:30:24  <Stablean> <Amm1er> nono
13:30:26  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh.
13:30:33  <Stablean> <Amm1er> you can siwtch company joined
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13:30:37  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :)
13:31:17  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> any rules?
13:31:50  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> k ^^
13:32:08  <Stablean> <Amm1er> mainly play fair and behave like your opponent is oyu
13:32:27  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> k :)
13:32:37  <Stablean> <Amm1er> and listen and talk to other people
13:32:57  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> ive played on the coop server :) So i know some basics :)
13:33:09  <Ammler> then don't ask :-P
13:33:19  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> shhh
13:33:21  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> long time ago.
13:39:05  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> green?
13:39:22  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh.
13:39:28  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> nobodys playing green ;_;
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13:48:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
13:48:29  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> hi :)
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13:57:23  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> WTF tile clearing limit reached?
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15:01:26  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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15:05:53  <MrD2DG> !admin
15:05:53  <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
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15:07:11  <planetmaker_> yes?
15:07:24  <MrD2DG> Are you guys having hosting problems?
15:07:50  <planetmaker_> a little
15:07:53  <MrD2DG> For the past months the site regularly goes down and stable was unplayable a while ago :/
15:08:32  <MrD2DG> Thought it might be me but i guess it isnt
15:08:56  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :(
15:09:13  <planetmaker_> not always... our server has some issues sometimes... Our current guess is a kernel issue
15:09:36  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> what kernel is it running on?
15:09:39  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> version*
15:11:19  <planetmaker_> 2.6.32-4-pve
15:14:41  <MrD2DG> Well at least it isnt a bandwith issue that woudl cost monies
15:14:59  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> how much does that cost anyway, /gb?
15:15:03  <planetmaker_> no, bandwidth is no issue. Not even if we used 10x as much as now
15:15:35  <MrD2DG> Hopefully you guys can figure it out, cant play games where you get disconnected everytime you place signals :/
15:15:35  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> do the openttd servers use a lot of bandwidth?
15:16:10  <planetmaker_> openttd servers don't use terribly lot
15:16:14  <planetmaker_> most is map downloads
15:16:27  *** Ammler- is now known as Ammler
15:16:59  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> which is like.. 1 mb?
15:17:26  <planetmaker_> about, yes.
15:17:32  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
15:17:34  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> yay
15:17:34  <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game
15:17:36  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :D
15:17:38  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> somebody joined
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15:17:53  <planetmaker_> hm... it only unpauses for two?
15:17:57  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> yeah
15:18:00  <Stablean> <Mks> no
15:18:02  <planetmaker_> shouldn't
15:18:04  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh
15:18:06  <Stablean> <Mks> it unpauses for 1
15:18:13  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> mks, mind giving me some spare money? :P
15:18:19  <Stablean> <Mks> at least thats how it ususally work
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15:18:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh rollback
15:19:07  <Stablean> <Mks> server crashed?
15:19:20  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> woah thanks
15:19:26  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes
15:19:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats this 'tile clearing limit' thing?
15:20:02  <Stablean> <Mks> yeah quite annoying if you ask me
15:20:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^ VERY
15:20:58  <Stablean> <Mks> I didn't even know you could do like that
15:21:10  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Me too
15:21:26  <Stablean> <Mks> well I know it can be done with server mods and such but
15:21:32  <Stablean> <Mks> can't see any newgrf that would do that
15:21:33  *** planetmaker_ is now known as planetmaker
15:23:28  <planetmaker> @op
15:23:28  *** Webster sets mode: +o planetmaker
15:27:59  <Mks> planetmaker
15:28:52  <Stablean> <Mks> lol you can only clear max 10 tiles
15:29:13  <Stablean> <Mks> max 10 and then you get 1 back every month
15:29:13  <planetmaker> :-)
15:29:23  <Mks> what made it be like that?
15:29:27  <planetmaker> gotta love that :-)
15:29:30  <Mks> not really
15:29:32  <Mks> I hate it
15:29:47  <planetmaker> the terraforming limit settings made it like that
15:29:57  <Mks> ahh
15:30:01  <Mks> I don't mind a tf limit
15:30:07  <Mks> but destroy things limit?
15:30:11  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings terra
15:30:11  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
15:30:11  <Stablean> Ammler: difficulty.terrain_type = 3
15:30:11  <Stablean> Ammler: construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 64000
15:30:11  <Stablean> Ammler: construction.terraform_frame_burst = 64000
15:30:11  <Stablean> Ammler: gui.link_terraform_toolbar = off
15:30:12  <Stablean> Ammler: you have one more message
15:30:18  <planetmaker> indeed it's a separate variable
15:30:19  <Ammler> !more
15:30:20  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
15:30:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> It sucks :/
15:30:34  <Mks> its a server setting?
15:30:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> And water TF £100mil?
15:30:42  <planetmaker> yes
15:30:46  <Mks> some maps are like that
15:30:46  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings bulldoze
15:30:46  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
15:30:47  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
15:31:00  <Mks> doesn't matter I guess just have to ingore it
15:31:04  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings clear
15:31:04  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
15:31:04  <Stablean> Ammler: construction.clear_per_64k_frames = 100
15:31:04  <Stablean> Ammler: construction.clear_frame_burst = 10
15:31:04  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
15:31:08  <Mks> water tf is always expensive on these servers
15:31:09  <planetmaker> I can't particularily say that anything of it is unintentional ;-)
15:31:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Just but its usually £1mil not 100 :/
15:31:22  <planetmaker> but the TF / clearance limit might be too low
15:31:35  <planetmaker> I just used a base cost preset ;-)
15:31:57  <planetmaker> it's often feasable to suggest maps for game start :-P
15:32:46  <Mks> <+Stablean> Ammler: construction.clear_frame_burst = 10    so that needs to be higher for it to be possible to clear more?
15:33:33  <planetmaker> that's one of two, yes
15:33:47  <Ammler> how long is 64k frame?
15:33:58  <planetmaker> @calc 64000/74
15:33:58  <Webster> planetmaker: 864.864864865
15:34:02  <planetmaker> 15 minutes
15:34:16  <Ammler> a year
15:34:58  <Ammler> when does limit clearing make sense?
15:35:20  <planetmaker> on a server where everyone can connect.
15:35:28  <planetmaker> then people cannot clear / bulldoze the entire map
15:35:28  <Mks> why?
15:35:32  <Mks> ahh
15:35:36  <Mks> well thats one thing but
15:36:07  <Mks> like its impossible to build near a city almost with such a low limit if they hate you the city your screwed :P
15:36:50  <Mks> shouldn't a limit of like 300 be enough then? you wouldn't be able to clear the map with that
15:37:33  <planetmaker> yes
15:37:51  <planetmaker> feel free to change it
15:38:15  <planetmaker> I meant it as a challange like to enforce low TF. But maybe the same for clearing is too strong
15:38:32  <Ammler> tf is very high
15:38:42  <Ammler> 64k
15:38:46  <planetmaker> hm
15:38:54  <planetmaker> then I uses stupid settings
15:39:46  <Mks> is it possible to change it?
15:39:51  <Mks> I mean now
15:40:03  <Mks> like do 10 tf max and lot higher clear limit?
15:40:12  <planetmaker> !rcon set settingname value
15:40:12  <Stablean> planetmaker: 'settingname' is an unknown setting.
15:40:24  <planetmaker> you have rcon ;-)
15:40:30  <Mks> I know but
15:40:34  <Mks> don't know how to :)
15:40:57  <planetmaker> get the exact setting name and then use rcon
15:41:02  <Mks> so construction.clear_frame_burst
15:41:13  <Mks> rcon construction.clear_frame_burst 100?
15:41:14  <planetmaker> without the part before .
15:41:15  <Mks> for example?
15:41:27  <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_frame_burst
15:41:27  <Stablean> planetmaker: Current value for 'clear_frame_burst' is: '10' (min: 0, max: 1073741824)
15:41:30  <planetmaker> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 100
15:41:37  <Mks> ahh
15:41:47  <planetmaker> you might want to change the other one, too
15:41:51  <Mks> !rcon set clear_frame_burst 200
15:42:07  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
15:42:14  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst
15:42:14  <Stablean> Mks: Current value for 'terraform_frame_burst' is: '64000' (min: 0, max: 1073741824)
15:42:22  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 15
15:42:49  <Mks> !rcon terraform_per_64k_frames
15:42:49  <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildSingleRail           MrD2DG  date:2005-11-11  tile:00028B7E  p1:00000001 p2:00000004 text: price:112
15:42:49  <Stablean> Mks: ERROR: command not found
15:43:02  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 100
15:43:02  <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildSingleRail           MrD2DG  date:2005-11-17  tile:00028581  p1:00000001 p2:00000002 text: price:112
15:43:02  <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildTrainDepot           MrD2DG  date:2005-11-18  tile:0002847E  p1:00000001 p2:00000001 text: price:592
15:43:22  <Mks> !rcon list_settings terra
15:43:22  <Stablean> Mks: All settings with their current value:
15:43:23  <Stablean> Mks: difficulty.terrain_type = 3
15:43:23  <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 100
15:43:23  <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_frame_burst = 15
15:43:23  <Stablean> Mks: gui.link_terraform_toolbar = off
15:43:24  <Stablean> Mks: you have one more message
15:43:37  <Mks> !rcon list_settings clear
15:43:37  <Stablean> Mks: CmdBuildSingleRail           MrD2DG  date:2005-12-03  tile:00028575  p1:00000001 p2:00000004 text: price:112
15:43:37  <Stablean> Mks: All settings with their current value:
15:43:37  <Stablean> Mks: construction.clear_per_64k_frames = 100
15:43:37  <Stablean> Mks: construction.clear_frame_burst = 200
15:43:37  <Stablean> Mks: Use 'setting' command to change a value
15:43:59  <Mks> alright this should be better
15:44:07  <planetmaker> :-)
15:44:13  <Stablean> <Mks> strange
15:44:25  <Mks> seems I can only clear 20 blocks
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15:44:31  <Stablean> *** Mks has started a new company (#9)
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15:45:00  <Mks> ahh cause I cleared to recent
15:46:10  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
15:47:33  <Mks> !rcon reset_company 6
15:47:33  <Stablean> Mks: Company deleted.
15:48:01  <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost)
15:48:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> LANDSCAPING LIMIT :?
15:48:36  <planetmaker> makes sense, does it?
15:48:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No
15:48:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Higher TF costs are supposed to stop that...
15:49:08  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Sometime i want to raise land to make junctions etc i cant now :/
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15:51:31  <Stablean> <Mks> mrd2dg you hate the new tf limit now instead? :P
15:51:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I hate any limit :)
15:51:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I like to build neat so it sorta ruins the game for me
15:52:14  <Stablean> <Mks> well this map is pretty flat
15:52:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes but even so there are still some things id like to level
15:53:04  <planetmaker> well, this map could go even for a terraforming limit of 0
15:53:15  <Stablean> <Mks> no
15:53:16  <planetmaker> here is really no need for TF ;-)
15:53:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Any limit is bad...
15:53:20  <planetmaker> well. maybe for tunnels
15:53:27  <Stablean> <Mks> then you can't use tunnels
15:53:31  <planetmaker> yup
15:53:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> We arent retarded ( well most of us) and know not to TF huge areas etc
15:54:33  <planetmaker> then see it as a challenge
15:54:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I dont play on stable for a challenge :D
15:55:01  <planetmaker> educational limit then? ;-)
15:55:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :'(
15:55:30  <planetmaker> !rcon clients
15:55:31  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #1  name: 'Stablean'  company: 255  IP: server
15:55:31  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #3  name: 'Wisepotato'  company: 8  IP:
15:55:31  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #13  name: 'Mks'  company: 5  IP:
15:55:31  <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #9  name: 'MrD2DG'  company: 2  IP:
15:55:45  <planetmaker> well, sweet talk mks - he plays, not me ;-)
15:55:58  <planetmaker> i just pay for the server...
15:56:02  <Stablean> <Mks> I know you hate TF planetmaker
15:56:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Didnt know Mks was op
15:56:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> either way no limit please, TF costs are sufficient IMO to stop stupid players from terrorising the map, they havent failed before :)
15:56:48  <Stablean> <Mks> since you pay for it you can do whatever you want against us
15:56:56  <Stablean> <Mks> well acually
15:57:05  <Stablean> <Mks> I think some tf limit might be good
15:57:15  <Stablean> <Mks> prices aren't high enough really when you have alot of money
15:57:33  <Stablean> <Mks> but if you make em alot higher its like impssible to use even if you just wana tf 1 tile
15:57:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes but if you do manage to make a sucessfull company then surely you must have the sense not to screw with the map
15:58:03  <Stablean> <Mks> mm thats not always the case
15:58:21  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ive never seen otherwise...
15:58:29  <planetmaker> I didn't set a TF, so I didn't do anything there :-P and against no-one ;-)
15:58:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> No need to change anything IMO I think the previous format worked fine...
15:59:16  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 50
15:59:28  <Stablean> <Mks> well I've raised it a bit now
15:59:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
15:59:55  <Stablean> <Mks> you can't do unlimited  tf but a bit more at least
16:00:16  <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost)
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16:02:04  <Mks> plantmaker so you still here?
16:02:24  <Mks> !rcon list_settings terra
16:02:24  <Stablean> Mks: CmdRemoveSingleRail           MrD2DG  date:2007-04-21  tile:00025595  p1:00000001 p2:00000002 text: price:-53
16:02:24  <Stablean> Mks: All settings with their current value:
16:02:24  <Stablean> Mks: difficulty.terrain_type = 3
16:02:25  <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 100
16:02:25  <Stablean> Mks: construction.terraform_frame_burst = 50
16:02:26  <Stablean> Mks: you have 2 more messages
16:02:27  <planetmaker> not really, I'm about to head out
16:02:34  <Mks>  construction.terraform_per_64k_frames = 100
16:02:37  <Mks> that value?
16:02:40  <planetmaker> yes
16:02:44  <Mks> affects how fast you regain the ability to tf?
16:03:10  <planetmaker> not quite. It tells you how many corners you may terraform within 15 minutes
16:03:19  <planetmaker> and the other setting how many per frame
16:03:23  <Mks> ohh
16:03:57  * planetmaker wonders how long a frame is
16:04:07  <Mks> so you can tf 100 corners in 15 mins
16:04:18  <planetmaker> yes
16:04:29  <Mks> but only full squares in the same time?
16:04:33  <Mks> I mean 50
16:04:42  <Mks> construction.terraform_frame_burst = 50
16:04:44  <Mks> with that value
16:05:01  <planetmaker> terraform iirc counts the corners
16:05:58  <Mks> so burst value have no other affect really then the max amount you can tf at the same time?
16:06:01  <Mks> more or less
16:06:14  <planetmaker> yes
16:06:27  <planetmaker> it's basically a short-term limit and a long-term limit
16:06:50  <Mks> so the 100 value is how many you can tf under 1 in game year?
16:07:03  <planetmaker> thus you could in principle set the the burst one to very low (like 4) but allow unlimited TF
16:07:11  <planetmaker> thus click, click, click, click... :-P
16:07:16  <Mks> ahhh
16:08:14  <Mks> burst value is also corners?
16:08:23  <Mks> so if its 50 its 10 squares?
16:08:39  <Mks> well
16:08:40  <planetmaker> not 100% sure. one corner affects for TF usually 4 tiles
16:08:51  <planetmaker> on a flat surface at least
16:08:57  <planetmaker> on others it might affect 2
16:09:07  <Mks> ahh true
16:09:10  <planetmaker> but maybe it's also tiles, I'm not sure
16:09:21  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 4
16:09:46  <Mks> mm
16:10:01  <Mks> I don't see the burst value seem to be what limits it?
16:10:26  <planetmaker> burst is short-term
16:10:29  <Mks> !rcon terraform_per_64k_frames 2000
16:10:29  <Stablean> Mks: ERROR: command not found
16:10:34  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 2000
16:11:07  <Mks> ahh yes the 64k affect how fast you regain the ability to tf
16:11:25  <Mks> and as you say the other is mm burst
16:12:15  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 16
16:12:51  <Mks> these settings seem fairly nice at 100 you regain it so slow but at 2000 quite fast
16:13:03  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 1000
16:13:03  <Stablean> Mks: CmdLevelLand           MrD2DG  date:2008-02-01  tile:000210C7  p1:000212C9 p2:00000000 text: price:36652
16:13:31  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_per_64k_frames 1500
16:13:47  <Mks> !rcon set terraform_frame_burst 20
16:33:20  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> mr
16:33:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ?
16:33:29  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> may i join you? my rails are just pathetic
16:33:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Ahh sorry but i wanted to play solo this game, havent been here in a while
16:34:09  <Stablean> <Mks> ohh I've seen you before
16:34:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Dont mind coop'in next time though
16:34:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Who?
16:34:29  <Stablean> <Mks> I've seen you before mrd2dg
16:34:39  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> I wanna do coop
16:34:39  <Stablean> <Mks> might been a long time ago tho not sure :P
16:34:49  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes i play here a lot, used to be called MrMouthy a few years ago
16:35:03  <planetmaker> ach... that's the same?
16:35:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Huh?
16:35:49  <planetmaker> i recall both nicks ;-)
16:35:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:36:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> But yeah i dont mind cooping with you next game wise, unless the PSG starts before then
16:37:06  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> alright sure
16:37:16  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> ill just delete my stuff here in a while, cause ill be afk for a while
16:37:38  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh ok
16:37:40  <Stablean> <Mks> might be a day or a couple of days until next game thought
16:37:46  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I hope not :/
16:37:55  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> oh well ill leave a few stations
16:37:55  <Stablean> <Wisepotato> :p
16:37:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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16:39:10  <Stablean> <Hanf> hey all
16:39:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
16:39:59  <Stablean> <Hanf> how are we all this afternoon
16:40:15  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Good, you?
16:41:18  <Stablean> <Hanf> not bad. just taking a break from being productive
16:41:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
16:41:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Havent you seen you here before, new to OTTD or just this server?
16:41:44  <Stablean> <Hanf> both
16:41:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh, welcome :)
16:42:07  <Stablean> <Hanf> cheers
16:48:24  <Stablean> <Hanf> there sure are a lot of stations/trains to choose from
16:48:57  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah this server adds newGRF's which do things like add vehicle/station types
16:49:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Makes the game a bit more interesting for those too familiar with the default trains :P
16:49:28  <planetmaker> only vanilla is boring
16:49:32  <Stablean> <Hanf> yeah I know, there are just so many idk what to choose :P
16:49:33  <planetmaker> sometimes nice... but :-)
16:49:43  <Stablean> <Mks> I wana use the DB set
16:49:49  <Stablean> <Mks> but it will never be here
16:49:51  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P Just compare train stats you'll find the best eventually
16:49:55  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Same Mks
16:49:58  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Which it was on bananas
16:50:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *wish
16:50:40  <planetmaker> it never will be, I guess
16:50:58  <Stablean> <Mks> unless someone else makes a DB set
16:51:35  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Doubt thats happening anytime soon...
16:52:08  <planetmaker> :-D
16:53:00  <MrD2DG> Ooh
16:53:10  <planetmaker> not anytime soon, though
16:53:20  <MrD2DG> :/
16:53:35  <planetmaker> it has too many prerequisites which we still need to fulfill
16:53:47  <planetmaker> among them a lot of patches in OpenTTD ;-)
16:53:49  <Stablean> <Mks> what pre reqs?
16:53:59  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Any other major trainsets in development?
16:54:03  <planetmaker> and a lot of graphics drawn :-P
16:59:58  <V453000> depends what do you call major train set :)
17:00:05  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ooh
17:00:11  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Still around?
17:00:33  <V453000> yes and no
17:00:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
17:00:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> You know you'll eventually be brought back here so why leave? :D
17:00:55  <V453000> dont bother with that, on train set is here though ;)
17:01:06  <V453000> no I wont
17:01:16  <V453000> certainly not _here_
17:01:39  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :/
17:02:29  <V453000> if you wanted to draw some sprites, just tell me ;)
17:02:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I havent drawn anything in ages :)
17:03:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> So whos job is it to make the maps here now?
17:03:10  <V453000> does not matter :) I have never drew anything
17:03:26  <V453000> uhm, I have no idea, I have not made a map here for ages
17:03:41  <V453000> Sylf I assume
17:03:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well i guess i might try one day
17:03:47  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh yeah
17:04:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> At least we've got sylf to make some nice maps
17:04:12  <Stablean> <Mks> the biggest concenr is to get all settings right
17:04:18  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
17:04:28  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *remembers that PBS problem a few games back
17:04:34  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> (not that i use it)
17:04:39  <V453000> PBS is a problem itself :)
17:05:16  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Well without you there will be noone to spread the word :P
17:05:31  <V453000> as soon as someone learns enough, there will
17:05:50  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> hmmm
17:06:00  <Stablean> <Hanf> what's wrong with pbs?
17:06:27  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> *waits for V to explain*...
17:06:28  <planetmaker> nothing. But you need to know where not to use it
17:06:44  <planetmaker> which is surprisingly often ;-)
17:06:49  <V453000> I am not going to explain anything :)
17:06:56  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :(
17:07:44  <V453000> you heard it many times already
17:08:01  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Yes i know what the problems are :)
17:17:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> wisepotato?
17:17:16  <Stablean> <Hanf> hahaha damn, a tractor
17:29:11  <Stablean> <Hanf> why does my northernmost bus station have tons of passengers but my southern has barely any?
17:29:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Depends on the proxitimity to buildings how how big they are
17:29:53  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Obv a tower block will provide more passengers than a small house...
17:30:07  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Or shack in this case..
17:30:29  <Stablean> <Hanf> ah I thought there was just 1 tower block in each catchment
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