Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 22nd January 2012:
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00:19:36  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> everyone confused on how to get back in ?! 8)
00:34:50  <Sylf> o_O
00:34:57  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oh hai
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01:23:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hello Mr. Troy
01:23:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Meech
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01:30:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk
01:31:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> LLLRRR
01:31:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ?
01:36:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i cant make sense of what you build anyhow troy xD
01:37:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im looking right at it
01:37:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> overflow goes down the other way
01:39:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> not sure
01:49:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i was helping out mAzur last night, im getting pretty good at understainding how to double bridges now and how to add the right signals :)
01:50:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> just really dont do it that often, usually my lines dont have a lot of capacity anyhow when I play at least
01:51:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, but how do you do it, and why?
01:51:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> more importantly been trying to keep ML free of bridges too
01:51:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's generally a good idea, but not always best or even possible
01:52:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> use the entry and exit signals now
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01:52:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why not pbs?
01:53:10  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> well through casual talk here i heard pbs has slow reaction times
01:53:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, sometimes
01:55:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I believe it's part historical too
01:55:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> do yo uwant assistance with the LLLRRR ? I see youre starrting to work on it
01:55:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the settings to pbs_wait can be altered, even though it costs more to process than presignals
01:55:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but mostly at connecting the SLH's
01:56:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can add a 3rd line between SLH01 and SLH02
01:56:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im better at building straignt lines
01:56:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> PBS was developed later that block signals and presignals
01:56:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I dont know exactly, but i think that presignals werent even available in the original TT(D)
01:56:52  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok so basically more people imight have the tedency to use the entry and exit gates
01:57:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its straightforward and -well- logic
01:57:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> pbs isnt, it is more unpredictable
01:58:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which is why it is not-done to use pbs near stations
01:58:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but part is historical
01:58:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> many of the ottdcoopers are used to building with presignals only
01:59:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they've seen the development of PBS and the flaws it had (some of which might have disappeared, some have stayed)
01:59:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> since that building style works, why change it?
02:00:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if its not broke, dont fix it
02:00:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> exactly
02:00:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and what about bridges?
02:00:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, it doesnt really matter there
02:00:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> could you check !here?
02:00:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tell me when you there
02:01:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah im looking near the water plant
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02:03:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> minor differences there
02:03:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a true openttdcooper only uses pbs in the upper case
02:03:33  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i know why you used pbs at tle last one
02:03:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> due to lack of space
02:03:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> right
02:04:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the one under that is preferable for all types of bridges with that lay out
02:04:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what tod the 2 ways at the 2nd one do ?
02:04:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the bottom two?
02:04:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yup, 3 is the way i will do from now on if possible
02:04:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> er, the second one has 2 way blocks in the back
02:04:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Im just lazy, I dont like all the clicking, so i prefer the 2nd
02:04:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oh ok
02:04:58  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> so the first 2 are the same ?
02:05:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, I dont know exactly what it does, but in laymans terms, the 2nd one forces a train to use one path
02:05:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the bottom one doesnt, which could sometimes end up in a train stopping in front of it, while a path is clear
02:05:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> however...
02:06:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> so dropping the 2 ways ain the back is the better idea if you gotta use pbs ?
02:06:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, i think so, but i dont know that exactly
02:06:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok i will keep that in mind
02:06:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see the one thing on the right?
02:06:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah, that looks sorta bad actually
02:06:54  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but contunue
02:06:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aint that bad actually
02:07:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> id build the other part where i layed my peice of track at
02:07:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but using the 2way block there "confuses" trains
02:07:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so if you HAVE to make it that way, dont use two way blocks
02:07:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok so in that case use just 1 way
02:07:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but prefeably, dont do it that way, unless you really really have to
02:08:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and make it look like how i redid it ?
02:08:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
02:08:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk
02:08:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but the one right to that is just prefereably
02:08:30  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yes
02:08:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so another branch, like you proposed ;)
02:08:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> another thing on pbs:
02:09:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I did a game once, where I found out that pbs messes with conditional orders
02:09:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> like the conditionals we had earlier with the 75% load and send to depot to refit right ?
02:09:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> something with a pbs, presignals, and an order: go to nearest depot and refit
02:09:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is a conditional order right
02:10:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I heard V talking about that yesterday or Sylf talking to chester
02:10:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> about what?
02:10:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> they made that demo that got demolished
02:10:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> PBS and refit
02:10:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> was that their problem?
02:11:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yes, I think it was chester, was talking about how he couldnt get things to refit no matter what he did
02:11:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that could just be noobishness
02:11:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I had to adjust too
02:11:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> he did a demo with the different signals and everything and talked about it
02:12:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in earlier versions of the game, you could refit in the order list with the button on the utmost right
02:12:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> now its the left to center one
02:14:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know how they work?
02:14:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i bulldozed the depot you had them refitting in yesterday. V came in and saw the trains had invalid orders, he showed me how to goto depot then refit
02:15:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, bad idea buldozing it
02:15:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah i had no idea, didnt know it was linked to that exact tile
02:15:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> he showed me how to make it go to nearest depot, which could allow it to be moved
02:15:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> mostly I dont make them go to a unique depot, but nearest depot
02:15:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but not this time
02:16:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> he talked about that also
02:16:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what'd he say?
02:16:41  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> talked about the differences between nearest depot and specificdepot
02:17:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> any thing I should know about that?
02:17:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i think it was something to dow with the pbs and entry signals / exit signals and how they all work differently
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02:19:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> howdy Mazur
02:19:35  <Stablean> <Mazur> Moar ning!
02:23:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still there
02:23:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and hi Mazur
02:23:10  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yes
02:23:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wanted to ask you about that 3rd rail, but I see it's coming...
02:24:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> theyre both right there
02:24:25  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> they need connection to slh2 however
02:25:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and need signals
02:28:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@gap(3 11)
02:28:47  <Webster> Stablean: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
02:28:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(gap 3 11)
02:28:55  <Webster> Stablean: For Trainlength of 3: 45 - 49 needs 10, 50 - 54 needs 11, 55 - 59 needs 12.
02:29:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(gap 3 2)
02:29:12  <Webster> Stablean: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
02:33:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> tried to fix the slowdown at the factory
02:33:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I solved it
02:33:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the goods trains were backpiling
02:43:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> brb
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02:54:35  <NonNobisSolum_> hi
02:54:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
02:54:45  <Stablean> <Mazur> Hi, NNS.
03:00:31  <NonNobisSolum_> :-/ need to update...
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03:02:56  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> hi
03:03:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
03:03:12  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> biiiiiiiiig map
03:05:20  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> can i coop with someone ?
03:05:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> depends on your skills
03:06:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but perhaps Meech doesnt matter anyway
03:06:03  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> i suppose it does
03:06:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ask him
03:06:40  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> meech can i please join ?
03:07:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think he'll be back shortly
03:07:23  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> k ill just look around
03:07:31  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> nsn got a big jam going on
03:07:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> understand anything of this building style?
03:07:55  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh
03:08:05  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> read the wiki n stuff, been playing on public
03:08:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anything you dont understand?
03:08:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, public too?
03:08:31  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> ill let u know when i spot something
03:11:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> NNS?
03:11:42  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh ?
03:12:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can you fix this "!3rd line" hookup?
03:12:33  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> looking....
03:12:51  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> you mean fix the prio ?
03:12:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no
03:13:05  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> k then no
03:13:07  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> dunno what u mean
03:13:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorry, its not clear...
03:13:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at the moment we have 2in 2out
03:13:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> LLRR
03:13:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that will be LLLRRR
03:13:50  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> ok
03:13:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but we need to divide those 3 lines over 3 lines
03:14:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> especially the goods line need to be mixed, but prioritized
03:14:18  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> ok
03:14:24  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> so needs balancing ?
03:14:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> too, yeah
03:14:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> can you show me?
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03:19:28  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> jam of goods trains holding up rubber trains
03:19:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> depot them
03:21:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not too pleased with the result
03:21:44  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> no, i dont know what im doing
03:21:50  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> show me how you would do it ?
03:21:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
03:22:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know the adagio "split before merge"
03:22:18  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh
03:22:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're not doing that there...
03:22:48  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> i didnt merge before split though did i ?
03:23:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, you made them merge and then split in several cases
03:23:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, let me think about this
03:23:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we want the goods train to divide over all three tracks
03:23:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the outer -non good tracks- seperate over 3
03:24:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it is sufficient for the outer ones to branch only once
03:24:27  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> so doesnt need full balancing ?
03:24:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont think so
03:32:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> back :)
03:32:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb
03:32:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thanks
03:32:28  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> wb?
03:32:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> welcome back
03:32:36  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> :D
03:32:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> wb = warner brothers
03:33:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I've had NNS help me out a bit
03:33:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good
03:33:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> pretty soon NNS will be an expert tycoon
03:33:36  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> :-| really ?
03:33:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> really!
03:33:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :D
03:33:53  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> theres no emoticon - for what im feeling
03:33:56  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yarly
03:40:53  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> jam
03:41:07  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> all the way down mainline, towards factory
03:41:13  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> on inside line
03:41:17  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> outside is free
03:41:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, depoted some goods trains
03:41:38  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> it grows and shrinks
03:43:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what is that for?
03:44:00  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> trying to ease jam
03:44:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you've just built an extra tunnel for the same line
03:44:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which wasnt necessary at all
03:45:45  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> could double /this bit
03:45:55  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> makes them choose drop or pick
03:45:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wont make a difference
03:45:57  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> earlier
03:46:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> would mean double the tunnels before that
03:46:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you cant have a choice at the entrance of the tunnel
03:46:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because at best, nothing extra will happen, and in worst case, you halve the capacity of the entire track
03:48:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> much better already though
03:51:53  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> wait, what ?
03:52:03  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> the river just stops there
03:52:15  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> or did u tf it flat
03:52:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, no
03:52:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in ottd terms, that is a lake
03:52:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it sorta happens !here too
03:53:05  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol wierd
03:53:11  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> dual level lake
03:53:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> happens more often
03:53:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but in real life too
03:53:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not all rivers flow to sea
03:54:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can still make out the original course of the river from the green areas
03:55:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> question
03:56:01  <Stablean> <Mazur> answer
03:56:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> can street cars be flattened by trains also ?
03:56:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
03:56:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stupid american
03:56:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> cool
03:56:26  <Stablean> <Mazur> All road vehicles die horribly if a train catches them on a crossing.
03:56:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's trams
03:56:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> TRAMS
03:56:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> XD
03:56:50  <Stablean> <Mazur> Train survives.
03:57:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> always
03:57:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> unless there's another train
03:57:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
03:57:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> dont make a boat
03:57:48  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> woo
03:58:19  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> good diamond mine near the other end
03:58:21  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> could do a gold run to that bank on the lake
03:58:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we've already got a bank, you know?
03:58:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> just fyi NNS, each lock you built was 3m
03:59:21  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> 1.2 m
03:59:51  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> 1.68 inland
04:03:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> brb
04:05:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(cl 3 225)
04:05:07  <Webster> Stablean: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined)
04:05:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@cl(erail 3 225)
04:05:26  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also:
04:05:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(cl erail 3 225)
04:05:43  <Webster> Stablean: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined)
04:05:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(clcalc erail 3 225)
04:05:58  <Webster> Stablean: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation.
04:06:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@clcalc(erail 3 225)
04:06:16  <Webster> Stablean: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation.
04:06:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@clcalc(erail 3)
04:06:32  <Webster> Stablean: (clcalc <railtype> [<tilt>] <cl|km/h>) -- For a number <30 this calculates the speed for <cl> on <railtype>. For any other numbers, this calculates the CL required for <railtype> travelling at <km/h>, assuming TL is small enough. [<tilt>] will apply tilt bonuses to the calculation.
04:06:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @@(clcalc erail 3)
04:06:53  <Webster> Stablean: A rail Curve Length of 3 (5 half tiles) gives a speed of 168km/h or 105mph
04:07:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who's here?
04:07:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anybody? Mazur?
04:08:03  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> me :D
04:08:17  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm... preferably Mazur, but okay
04:08:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how long is the corner at !cl
04:08:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and which length do the trains have passing through it...
04:08:57  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> 2.5
04:09:15  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> so a tl 3 will pass full speed
04:09:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 5 half tiles, which should be rounded up to 3
04:09:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, check the trains please...
04:09:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> do they pass full speed?
04:10:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well?
04:10:28  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> some do
04:10:30  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> wierd
04:11:20  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> is everything exacty tl3
04:11:34  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> or do we have some of those small wagons that make some like 3.1
04:11:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm -_- we dont have uniform lengths
04:11:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but all is 3.0 or less
04:11:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but some are 2.7
04:12:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, if we would have tl>3, we would notice that in the loading times of the trains
04:12:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that is the solution, but I'm not quite sure what the problem is...
04:12:38  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh
04:12:56  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> that hill slows them down
04:13:06  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> by hill i mean one sloped tile
04:13:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, it shouldnt
04:13:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and it doesnt
04:13:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then they would also slow down in the splitter/mixer before the station
04:23:33  <Stablean> <Mazur> Oh, right.
04:23:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> same problem here now at !cl
04:23:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 5 half tiles should be enough for a tl3 train
04:24:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> back
04:24:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wb
04:24:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> heard gunshots again xD
04:24:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?!?
04:24:47  <Stablean> <Mazur> Thought for a moment someone was stealing at Petäjäranta.  But it's you yourself, and delivering.
04:24:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah, second time tonight
04:25:22  <Stablean> <Mazur> Merkin?
04:25:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> merkin?
04:25:37  <Stablean> <Mazur> American.
04:25:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Detroit xD
04:25:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> think Baghdad of America
04:26:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but Mazur, you've got a response to !cl?
04:27:11  <Stablean> <Mazur> Gunshots and people talking about it, rather than phoning the police, and treating it as "normal".  Long live the right to arm bears.  Hurray for the NRA.
04:27:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> arm bears?
04:27:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im sure the police already know about it
04:27:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> grammatically correct, but i doubt it
04:27:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I doubt they have the right to arm bears...
04:28:12  <Stablean> <Mazur> It's a mockery of the "right to bear arms".
04:28:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know ;)
04:28:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but Mazur
04:28:46  <Stablean> <Mazur> Neither.
04:28:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Neither?
04:29:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> Neither are cl problems/.
04:29:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> check the speed of trains moving through it...
04:29:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know it *shouldnt* be a problem
04:29:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it is
04:30:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> with that peice of track removed its already quicker
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04:30:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I've made it buggy again, for arguments sake
04:30:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> too many signals ?
04:31:02  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nope
04:31:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Sylf, could you check !cl
04:31:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's a 5 half tile (so cl3) curve
04:31:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but tl3 trains slow down
04:31:38  <Stablean> <Mazur> I just daw a train doing that stretch at 225 all the time.
04:31:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> this game is still going active
04:32:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's right, Mazur, some of our trains are tl 2.7
04:32:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> due to no fault of my own
04:32:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> why should it be shorter then costing speed?
04:32:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> makes no sense
04:32:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> loading times,higher capacity but not being able to "fit" in another wagon
04:32:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> doesnt matter
04:33:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but most of our trains are tl3.0
04:33:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and most slow down in that corner
04:33:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> What can I say, Sylf, I like this map.
04:33:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what about TL4 curve?
04:33:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no problem there
04:33:39  <Stablean> <Mazur> But I'm not adverse to a new one.
04:33:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I think there's a recoding or some kind of cl3 curves
04:33:59  <Stablean> <Mazur> Oh, and Sylf, see my ! note.
04:34:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but because its 2.7 and the CCL is 3 it slows down?
04:34:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so that there's actually a diference between cl2.5 and cl3.0 curves, which wasn't there earlier
04:35:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> mmmm, yeah...
04:35:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Maz, was going to say i saw your note and Jerry i guess is new here, so he might not know that rule
04:35:20  <Stablean> <Mazur> Indeed, which is why I made a note rather than removing him.
04:35:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Troy and I had to invade his company to let us have mopre building room earlier in game
04:35:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> pffffft
04:36:07  <Stablean> <Mazur> I'm mentioning it to Sylf, so he is aware and can keep an eye on Jerry should Sylf be here and I not.
04:36:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no pw, and I wouldnt have done it if he hadnt ignored all of my comments on it
04:36:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :D
04:36:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> so many of the rules aren't really enforced around here...
04:36:28  <Stablean> <Sylf> I suppose rules here are more of guidelines...
04:36:30  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> he ignored me too
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04:37:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but Sylf, do you have any comments on !cl ?
04:38:26  <Stablean> <Mazur> Sylf: Do you know if there is a way to get a water tower in for instance Kauhalinha or Hiekkaniitty?
04:38:46  <Stablean> <Mazur> Other than waiting for them to build on a desert tile?
04:38:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> gotta fund it
04:39:08  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh
04:39:14  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes, but you need to place it on a house, and only on a desert tile.
04:39:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, dilemma
04:40:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> So Tuomimäki can;t get one.
04:40:44  <Stablean> <Mazur> Or Lapinranta.
04:40:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you would need to grow the city for it to cover desert areas to build a water tower, but to grow it you need water, which can only delivered to a water tower, or it isnt accepeted...
04:40:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ---
04:41:03  <Stablean> <Mazur> Indeed.  Catch 22.
04:41:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
04:41:36  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yossarian lives!
04:41:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> solution: crash your plane and peddle to Norway
04:41:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, Yossarian lives!
04:42:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I thought we were in finland?
04:42:11  <Stablean> <Mazur> We are.
04:42:49  <Stablean> <Mazur> And we're surrounded by Sweden and Russia, and a tiny bit of Norway.  And the Baltic.
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04:47:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im confused
04:48:07  <Stablean> <Mazur> Tell us.
04:48:09  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> why do we have tuomihovi copper mine and seinala copper mine?
04:48:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> tuomihovi should cache both areas
04:49:05  <Stablean> <Mazur> Apparently, the town boundaries are different.
04:49:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> we dont need seinala though, is what im satying
04:50:02  <Stablean> <Mazur> You mean, do it with one station?
04:50:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Seinala is lumber
04:50:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> uh, its already ready for one station, not sure who build seinala
04:50:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
04:50:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oooh
04:50:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> fail
04:50:42  <Stablean> <Mazur> I see.
04:50:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill go back to single player now ;)
04:50:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i didnt build it, for your information
04:51:09  <Stablean> <Mazur> You should have used a more visible station tile.
04:51:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill blame chester
04:51:29  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> wasnt me either
04:53:07  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> nooooooooooo
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04:55:09  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> troy were you working on train 343?
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04:55:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont think so, when?
04:55:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sosmone stopped train 343
04:55:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> could be, though
04:56:04  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> wasnt me
04:56:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
04:56:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at Here
04:56:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I stopped some trains yeah, to see if SLH02 flushed through, it would flow normally
04:56:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> gotcha
04:57:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> brb
04:57:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so, where's "Here"?
04:57:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill remake the sign
04:57:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, there
04:57:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Here
04:57:25  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Yeah
04:57:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but my tactic wasnt very succesful
04:58:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> anways, gtg
04:58:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nn
04:58:52  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> bye
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05:02:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Night Troy
05:08:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> be back later
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05:38:44  <Sylf> !rcon debuglevel
05:38:44  <Stablean> Sylf: Current debug-level: 'driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, script=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0'
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06:09:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :)
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06:21:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> howdy
06:21:53  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> hey
06:22:15  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> looks like someone (not me) worked on your company.
06:22:22  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> few people did
06:22:28  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> now it's uber value!
06:22:34  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> it is
06:22:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> reworked everything
06:22:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> big busy day
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06:23:12  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> what did you think of the map?
06:23:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its almost time for a new map
06:23:40  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> I didn't like this map.
06:24:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> brb
06:24:15  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> yeah...Australia made the best train in the game. hehe.
06:25:30  <Sylf> what was the unlikable part of this map?
06:26:01  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> No easy way to make money early-game, have to use food pretty much.
06:27:04  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> Primary Industries are kinda...spread apart.
06:27:34  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if that was a challenge
06:27:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you should see the station spread down to 4, bridges down to length of 4, and have multiplied buil;ding costs
06:27:59  <Sylf> I didn't find making money that challenging
06:28:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> maz went broke 2x Sylf xD
06:28:31  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> I think it's mainly my problem. I usually play on temperate or sub-artic and I'm used to using coal+power plant for starting money
06:28:42  <Sylf> With train length of 4, there was a constant stream of income.
06:28:56  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> wait for toyland, mon ;)
06:28:57  <Sylf> TL2 wasn't doable in the beginning though.
06:29:05  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> Toyland...Monday...great
06:29:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> or if you dont want to try toyland, go for Firs ;)
06:29:19  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> i thought we didn't do toyland due to lack of train GRFs
06:29:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> mon = monningly
06:29:37  <Sylf> We play Toyland sometimes.
06:29:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i havent had a fizzy drink in a while ;)
06:29:52  <Sylf> But next map will be FIRS.
06:29:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> woot!
06:30:28  <Sylf> FIRS with auto-refit.  (OpenGFX+ trains 0.3.0)
06:31:11  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> btw Meech, how did Mazur go bankrupt? Did he try atomic bombing another ocean?
06:31:12  <Sylf> with CSD set engines, no mono, no maglev.
06:31:55  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> in vanilla Toyland there's one Maglev train lol
06:32:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> no, it was something else
06:33:09  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> awww :(
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06:34:15  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> When will server restart?
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06:35:23  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> wb
06:35:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thanks
06:36:00  <Sylf> we can restart any time
06:36:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol why are the rains jammed?
06:37:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> omg wtf
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06:38:54  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oops
06:38:59  <Sylf> ?
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06:39:17  <Sylf> newbish error?
06:39:34  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> funny
06:39:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> this version doesnt allow for purchasing of crashed trains like before
06:40:30  <Sylf> that's when shared order comes in handy
06:40:41  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> when i used to crash trains on accident or on purpose,  you could clone the crashed one ind depot
06:41:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> the trains are jamming at !here
06:41:33  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> crash a train...purposley. I don't even know...
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06:42:09  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> bleh, i give up
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06:42:28  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> what is that circle for?
06:42:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> heck if if know, Troy build it probably
06:42:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> troy makes neat stuff like that
06:42:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> it was reversing
06:43:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> demo the depot i made
06:43:39  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> yeah well..
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06:43:48  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> now Sylf is online, we win!
06:43:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sayign train needs a free path, the path is cleaR?
06:44:06  <Stablean> <Sylf> just curious about this circle thing
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06:44:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech>
06:44:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at !here, Sylg
06:44:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh, it's failing
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06:45:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> monningly build the light in there I think
06:45:01  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> i was thinking entry signal
06:45:12  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> the light was there before, removed it to stop jam
06:45:16  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> then i put it back in
06:45:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha
06:45:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeesh
06:46:43  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> nice.
06:46:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thats waht it should do
06:47:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oh, it needed arrows
06:47:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> it can be better...
06:48:07  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> why does the line go diagonal for?
06:48:13  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> couldn't it just like
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06:48:35  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> wait nvm i have no idea what im saying
06:49:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> shame, i cant build a station there
06:49:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill do a demo for you
06:50:22  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> wait 10 hours for the train to get an opening!
06:50:40  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> hey guys go north, another jam?
06:50:47  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> nvm
06:50:55  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> wait do up
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06:51:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hmm, hope they come back
06:52:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> no more need for the funky reverser
06:52:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> woot
06:52:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> reverser is best not abused
06:52:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> especially when you have so much room on the map
06:53:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i dont know why it was built honestly
06:54:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> Nobody saw !bad signal?
06:54:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> heh, cute
06:54:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> guess not
06:55:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> and there's !bad prio
06:56:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> that one shouldbnt be there
06:56:34  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> maybe Troy was sleepy
06:57:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> no, it's just signal error
06:57:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> two-way entry signal should be exit signal
06:57:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> simple mistake that someone should have caught
06:58:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> the stuff you pointed out should be all the news tuff built IIRC
06:59:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ;)
06:59:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> the diamond works too ?
06:59:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think you want....
06:59:57  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> the diamond does the same thing ?
07:00:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> basically, the train need an alternative path
07:00:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's basically all you need.
07:00:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah, ive seen the ones ive done before but not the diamond
07:00:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> those will practically do the same thing.
07:01:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> gtotcha
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07:02:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> 2am here
07:02:22  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> probablky should go to bed
07:02:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> then I'll load a new map
07:02:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> and go to bed
07:03:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk
07:03:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill see you later today and in the new map :)
07:03:14  <Sylf> !rcon ls
07:03:14  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
07:03:14  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
07:03:14  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
07:03:14  <Stablean> Sylf: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
07:03:14  <Stablean> Sylf: 4) restart.sav
07:03:16  <Stablean> Sylf: you have 35 more messages
07:03:19  <Sylf> !rcon cd 3
07:03:23  <Sylf> !rcon ls
07:03:23  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
07:03:23  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
07:03:23  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTempS23.sav
07:03:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> did you see troy's note on first page?
07:03:33  <Sylf> !content
07:03:34  <Stablean> Sylf: Connection established
07:03:38  <Stablean> Sylf: Expect timeout triggered!
07:03:38  <Stablean> Sylf: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:03:45  <Sylf> !content
07:03:47  <Stablean> Sylf: Expect timeout triggered!
07:03:49  <Stablean> Sylf: Downloading 3 file(s) (23340 bytes)
07:03:49  <Stablean> Sylf: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
07:04:08  <Sylf> !restart
07:04:09  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
07:04:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :0
07:04:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hehe
07:04:22  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> guess it will have to wait
07:04:31  <Sylf> no, it was me
07:04:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Oh ok, yo ugo the note then :)
07:05:01  <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
07:05:01  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.2.0-beta3.
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07:06:57  *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.2.0-beta3 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read | run !setdef after loading a new game"
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07:07:36  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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07:08:09  <Sylf> !rcon cd uploads
07:08:13  <Sylf> !rcon ls
07:08:13  <Stablean> Sylf: 0) .. (Parent directory)
07:08:13  <Stablean> Sylf: 1) archive/ (Directory)
07:08:13  <Stablean> Sylf: 2) StableTempS23.sav
07:08:19  <Sylf> !rcon load 2
07:08:21  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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07:08:29  <Sylf> !rcon reset_company 1
07:08:29  <Stablean> Sylf: Company deleted.
07:08:36  <Sylf> !setdef
07:08:36  <Stablean> *** Sylf has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
07:08:37  <Sylf> !auto
07:08:37  <Stablean> *** Sylf has enabled autopause mode.
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07:10:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> small map ;)
07:11:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's a really weird map...
07:12:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> Japanese landscape, fictitious trees, swedish house, hawai'i town names, czeck trains....
07:12:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> did you mean for station spread to be 24 ?
07:12:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> not really
07:13:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i play with trees off usually anyhow
07:13:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> me too.
07:13:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> trees hidden and locked
07:13:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> gets too confusing to see terrain imo
07:14:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmm, station spread....
07:14:30  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> make it small so the noobs freak out :)
07:14:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> got it.
07:14:37  <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 4
07:14:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> firs doesnt work well with large stations anyhow imo
07:14:54  <Stablean> <Sylf> It can.
07:15:36  <Stablean> <Sylf> I may increase the spread a bit later.
07:15:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yea, see how people complain ;)
07:15:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i will be back to playlater
07:16:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but its bedtime again xD
07:16:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> so i will catcha later
07:16:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> see ya
07:16:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> night :)
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07:16:28  <Sylf> gn
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07:45:42  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> the water looks...different?
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07:55:31  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> hi
07:57:33  <Stablean> <TWerkhoven> eya
08:11:32  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol noone wants to get started on this mammoth task
08:14:08  <Stablean> *** Jerry has started a new company (#1)
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09:46:08  <V453000> !dl win64
09:46:08  <Stablean> V453000:
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09:49:15  <Stablean> <V453000> hi there
09:49:18  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> hi
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10:07:00  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> cb take my comp
10:07:07  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> going
10:07:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
10:07:29  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> enjoy the trams and the super-efficient junction at ewa villages
10:07:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am starting my own sorry
10:07:47  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has started a new company (#3)
10:07:49  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol
10:08:09  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> also , used the refit command in orders for the first time :D
10:08:39  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> meta to machine shop, eng supplies back :D
10:09:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice
10:09:33  <V453000> people like refits \o/ :D
10:09:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> refits are fun
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10:11:05  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> yo
10:11:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
10:11:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who made this map?
10:11:41  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> sylf i think
10:11:52  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> anyway g2g
10:11:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb
10:12:09  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> boooring
10:12:27  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> gotcha. If my attention span catches up :P
10:12:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what is Monningley Resident?
10:12:38  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> left pass in top corner of map
10:12:48  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> you didnt see the monningley game ?
10:12:52  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> Monningley in one map was a town with 12 people
10:12:54  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> aww, fill him in
10:13:00  <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> bye !!!!!!!
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10:13:06  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> we wanted to make it the biggest city.
10:13:24  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> `
10:13:42  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> so we just made a ton of transport to Monningley and made ridicolous company names like "Monningley must grow"
10:14:00  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> Game started at 1925 and it had like 12 population
10:14:04  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> 1960 and it has about 200 pop
10:14:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and?
10:14:12  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> 2040 ish and it has 20k pop
10:14:18  <Stablean> <Monningley Resident> yeah. that's it.
10:14:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can get towns to 500k+
10:14:51  <V453000> they just had collegial fun :) works for me
10:16:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> in my game you are not allowed fun :P
10:17:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oooh no
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10:18:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> machine shop is miles away
10:18:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am done for
10:22:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anyone lend me some money
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10:26:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I just made it!
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11:14:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry: can you not block my line?
11:15:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry: please con't block my line
11:15:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I left you loads of room
11:15:38  <Stablean> <Jerry> :)
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11:15:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
11:15:53  <Stablean> <V453000> morningz
11:15:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi V453000
11:16:05  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi
11:16:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am playing boring FIRS/Easy FIRS
11:16:57  <Stablean> <V453000> I am drawing utter madness / mental breakdown
11:17:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oooh fun
11:17:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I still need to finish my sprites for you
11:18:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have 2 but they have the wrong colours on them
11:18:41  <Stablean> <V453000> I already placed some sprites there, but just temporarily :)
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11:21:04  <Stablean> <V453000> so passenger trains are complete, at least for now
11:21:12  <Stablean> <V453000> except ICE
11:21:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ooh
11:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> which is ... quite hard to draw I thin
11:21:21  <Stablean> <V453000> k
11:21:55  <Stablean> <V453000> 3 or 4 of the ICE are 16/8 steamers in total, which is probably the hardest thing I drew so far
11:22:17  <Stablean> <V453000> rest is "just" 2headed trains that look powerful and fast but still not so easy :)
11:22:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Fast/Big steamers are hard
11:23:06  <Stablean> <V453000> I have one pretty much complete, took me about a week to draw ..
11:24:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure if that is going to work
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11:25:28  <Stablean> <V453000> whole map distances? :/
11:25:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
11:25:41  <Stablean> <V453000> the overflow is for sure bad though
11:25:48  <Stablean> <V453000> oh wait
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11:26:02  <Stablean> <V453000> yes the prio of course doesnt work :)
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11:26:28  <Stablean> <V453000> not yet
11:26:31  <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#4)
11:26:47  <Stablean> <V453000> exit signal on the bridge
11:26:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh
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11:26:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
11:27:01  <Stablean> <V453000> or that
11:27:03  <Stablean> <V453000> np
11:27:21  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe add signals to the reverser so it isnt as slow :)
11:27:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Now I just need to wait for monay
11:27:27  <Stablean> <V453000> wont matter now though
11:28:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Mazur
11:28:42  <Stablean> <Mazur> HI ,CB.
11:28:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> want to coop?
11:28:52  <Stablean> <Mazur> New mappie, I see.
11:29:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes, rather than starting up on my own again.
11:29:18  <Stablean> <V453000> back to drawing, those poor trainies need hair ^^
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11:29:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> easy password
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11:29:33  <Mazur> Have fnu.
11:29:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think I might be going bust
11:29:38  <V453000> fnu unlimited
11:30:21  <Stablean> <Mazur> Nothing to eliminate to reduce cost, or to sell to have leeway?
11:30:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Property cost are insane on this map
11:30:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not at the moment
11:30:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it the cost of track / stations
11:30:45  <Stablean> <Mazur> Signals are extreme..
11:30:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I guess we can single track alot
11:31:15  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes,and make pass-bys at regular intervals.
11:31:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry: can you loan me 20k?
11:32:52  <Stablean> <Mazur> Shall i reduce cost at the farthest one?
11:33:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Yes!
11:35:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> That will help
11:35:38  <Stablean> <Jerry> i gott offer to by you Chris
11:35:44  <Stablean> <Jerry> :D
11:36:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Yes I have run out of money Jerry
11:37:05  <Stablean> <Jerry> should i? :P
11:37:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I had to go on a big cost cutting measure
11:37:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> please not
11:37:13  <Stablean> <Jerry> hehe
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11:39:13  <Stablean> <Mazur> Quick and dirty.
11:39:55  <Stablean> <Jerry> when i deliver engineering supplies to exampel junk yard dos that meen that i will produs more?
11:40:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> kinda
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11:40:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> You need to deliver every month
11:41:39  <Stablean> <Mazur> No.
11:41:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no?
11:42:00  <Stablean> <Jerry> ?
11:42:06  <Stablean> <Mazur> He needed to return to bay/
11:42:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you running those trains by hand?
11:43:08  <Stablean> <Mazur> There were some signals undeleted in the middle of hte single track, I was trying to get those trains apart again.
11:43:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh ok
11:43:33  <Stablean> <Mazur> With minimal expenditure.
11:43:59  <Stablean> <Mazur> SO now one full train is first going back to the primary.
11:47:21  <Stablean> <Mazur> New vehicles???  You really weant bankrupt, don;t you?
11:47:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
11:47:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but we need trains
11:47:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> train 14 will save us
11:47:56  <Stablean> <Mazur> Shell we first get 100k room to spare, then?
11:47:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
11:48:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lets pay off some loan
11:48:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to give use breathing room
11:48:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ah, we live.
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11:49:45  <Stablean> <Mazur> In bits.
11:49:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> is normal rail cheaper than Erail?
11:50:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> since I built in Erail
11:50:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes.
11:50:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then we can save lots there
11:52:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nice we saved 100k this year
11:56:44  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes, and not signalling all out right away until we have loads of money
11:57:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> Anti bakrupcy buffer repaid.
11:57:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yep, just saving another 23k by going to normail rail
11:57:54  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ah, ok.
11:58:20  <Stablean> <Mazur> Now you see what I did last game keeping on steam and such.
11:58:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
12:00:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and another 30k just saved
12:00:48  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ah, you've been doing similar elsewhere.
12:00:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now we just have 128k/yr infra costs
12:01:32  <Stablean> <Mazur> 268k.
12:02:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shit
12:02:54  <Stablean> <Mazur> I take it that was not your intention?
12:03:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not
12:03:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I was playing with signals
12:03:48  <Stablean> <Mazur> We can gain some speed by going to Ginzu A4.
12:03:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to week
12:04:15  <Stablean> <Mazur> k
12:04:53  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ah yes, we're doing TL5.
12:05:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no TL3
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12:06:08  <Stablean> <Antecedence> g'day guys
12:06:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry: You are not plaing on take those supplies aswell?
12:06:54  <Stablean> <Mazur> Jerry, what're yuu doing?
12:07:10  <Stablean> <Jerry> lock at the other side of the lign
12:07:13  <Stablean> <Antecedence> wow, what's with all the new industries!? and the terrain...
12:09:52  <Stablean> <Antecedence> chris, mazur. you have a jam
12:10:04  <Stablean> <Mazur> Coming.
12:10:20  <Stablean> <Antecedence> hala'ula refinery
12:11:14  <Stablean> <Mazur> I se no jam...
12:11:33  <Stablean> <Antecedence> oh, woops
12:11:40  <Stablean> <Antecedence> sorry, saw green engines, figured it was green
12:11:43  <Stablean> <Antecedence> lol, failtastic me
12:12:06  <Stablean> <Antecedence> jerry... you have a jam then
12:12:16  <Stablean> <Mazur> No, those engines are just green with envy of hte engines that _are_ in our company.
12:12:26  <Stablean> <Antecedence> ooooooh, well that makes sense then
12:13:12  <Stablean> <Mazur> BUt seriously, Jerry, why the station there?
12:13:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> if he drop we don't mind
12:13:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it will allow us to grow fast
12:13:30  <Stablean> <Jerry> petrol
12:13:42  <Stablean> <Mazur> That;s fine, dropping's we can take care of.
12:14:02  <Stablean> <Mazur> Got the pooper scooper right here.
12:14:19  <Stablean> <Jerry> ther is no ather facility like that in the hol e map
12:14:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> there is
12:14:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check Paʻauilo Woods Jerry
12:15:23  <Stablean> <Jerry> ye but no free
12:15:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nor is Pukalani Machine Shop
12:16:36  <Stablean> <Mazur> Then make money on other stuff and fund your own.
12:16:55  <Stablean> <Mazur> We'll all have to, undoubtably.
12:17:17  <Stablean> <Mazur> Looner or sater.
12:17:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
12:18:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oooh my overflow works
12:19:36  <Stablean> <Mazur> It bloody well should.
12:20:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why should it, after all I built it :P
12:20:24  <Stablean> <Mazur> Almost 30k a month property maintenance.
12:20:34  <Stablean> <Antecedence> lol, jerry has a train running around with no orders. just the engine
12:24:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb train 32
12:24:20  <Stablean> <Mazur> Dunno, yet, looking for something.
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12:24:38  <Stablean> <Mazur> Lumber yard at Kalaeloa Wells?
12:25:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have a lumber yard at Pukalani Vallery
12:25:54  <Stablean> <Mazur> Oh, I thuoght we had machine shop, there.
12:26:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> got both
12:26:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is why I used that location
12:26:41  <Stablean> <Mazur> So wood to Pukalani Woods?
12:26:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
12:27:23  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> station spread is 4 tiles wtf
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12:28:31  <Chris_Booth> !rcon set max_station_spread
12:28:31  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting.
12:28:39  <Chris_Booth> !rcon set tation_spread
12:28:39  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: 'tation_spread' is an unknown setting.
12:28:44  <Chris_Booth> !rcon set station_spread
12:28:44  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '4' (min: 4, max: 64)
12:28:48  <Chris_Booth> !rcon set station_spread 10
12:29:09  <Stablean> <Mazur> CB: Got wood.
12:29:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> XD
12:29:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Wood goes to a sawmill BTW
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12:30:24  <Stablean> <Mazur> Found a few of those for us, as well.
12:31:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> would you be annoyed if I built another overflow for chemicals?
12:31:29  <Stablean> <Mazur> No, I love overflows.
12:31:55  <Stablean> <Mazur> Love designing them, too.
12:32:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> But usually go with the lazy overflow at primaries.
12:33:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> loan free
12:33:33  <Stablean> <Mazur> I know.
12:37:24  <Stablean> <Mazur> Building MSH and Sawmill.
12:37:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
12:38:24  <V453000> I dont think that setting was supposed to be changed chris
12:38:40  <Chris_Booth> it was set to 4 tiles
12:38:45  <Chris_Booth> that is just silly
12:40:04  <V453000> not really
12:40:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> how can I build a proper drop with 4 x 4 tiles?
12:41:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can just break the rule by usins waypoints
12:41:09  <V453000> it isnt a rule
12:41:11  <V453000> it is a setting
12:41:17  <V453000> therefore you cant break it
12:41:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> then break teh setting
12:42:54  <Chris_Booth> You could waypint to get around it
12:43:10  <Chris_Booth> if you want it at 4 then I will put it back and use waypoints
12:43:40  <V453000> I think Sylf intended it to be that way
12:43:51  <Chris_Booth> !rcon set station_spread 4
12:43:55  <V453000> what I think is not important here
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12:44:24  <Stablean> <Zack> hi all
12:44:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Zack
12:44:28  <Stablean> <Zack> long time no see
12:44:38  <Stablean> <Mazur> Lon time nosey.
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12:44:50  <Stablean> <Zack> hows goin there?
12:45:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good
12:45:26  <Stablean> <Zack> sorry but i couldnt come on server because i had to learn for school tests and stuff
12:46:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> luck you came back
12:46:55  <Stablean> <Zack> idk know buit i think i had 10-12 tests in the last month
12:47:21  <Stablean> <Zack> but why is it luck that im back now?
12:47:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no more tests
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12:48:12  <Stablean> <Zack> no ive got some more tests coming next week
12:48:24  <Stablean> <Zack> but i found myself some time to come on the server
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12:49:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we can olny just fit in chemical there
12:50:02  <Stablean> <Zack> at hala'ula refinery take someone look please
12:50:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what Zack?
12:50:41  <Stablean> <Zack> traffic jam for jerry transport.
12:50:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh thats fine
12:51:20  <Stablean> <Zack> ya know im listening to some nfs soundtracks on youtube
12:52:07  <Stablean> <Zack> the soundtrack from nfs undercover are like a mix of rock music and normal ones too
12:52:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I never was a NFS person
12:52:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I always play gran turismo
12:52:47  <Stablean> <Zack> did you play once gta?
12:53:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes can CANT wait for GTA V
12:53:20  <Stablean> <Zack> isnt that out already?
12:53:27  <Stablean> <Zack> i saw some gameplays of it
12:53:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no GTA IV is out
12:53:36  <Stablean> <Zack> from GTA V
12:53:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes they have a trailer only
12:55:27  <Stablean> <Zack> ya know im hearing right now Pendulum 9.000 Miles, Granite and The Tempest
12:55:41  <Stablean> <Zack> Justice Genesis
12:55:43  <Stablean> <Zack> too
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12:56:41  <Stablean> <Mazur> Got a wood train running.
12:56:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Mazur: we have farm supplies for wood
12:57:22  <Stablean> <Mazur> For forest, you mean?
12:57:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ye
12:58:18  <Stablean> <Mazur> And what was your planned delivery system for them?
12:58:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> same as ES
12:58:43  <Stablean> <Mazur> Which is?
12:58:49  <Stablean> <Mazur> Helicopters?
12:58:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check Kalaeloa Wells
12:59:01  <Stablean> <Mazur> TL1 on ML?
12:59:01  <Stablean> <Mazur> k
13:02:08  <Stablean> <Zack> somewhere assistance needed or wanted?
13:02:14  <Stablean> <Zack> be right back
13:02:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry looks like he needs help
13:03:08  <Stablean> <Zack> but he isnt here
13:03:34  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ah.
13:03:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Ah?
13:03:58  <Stablean> <Zack> ?
13:04:12  <Stablean> <Mazur> FS delivery.
13:04:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shall we go back to proper signals now?
13:04:32  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes.
13:05:47  <Stablean> <Zack> well there was an other reason too why i didnt come on the server too
13:05:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why?
13:06:04  <Stablean> <Zack> secret
13:07:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 400k a year now
13:09:30  <Stablean> <Zack> hows the weather like there?
13:09:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> wintery
13:10:11  <Stablean> <Zack> heres like early summer
13:12:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now we need a lumber station
13:12:55  <Stablean> <Zack> should i tell ya where?+
13:13:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
13:13:19  <Stablean> <Zack> Industrial: Processed products
13:13:29  <Stablean> <Zack> it will say timber
13:13:35  <Stablean> <Zack> but its lumber
13:13:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> we have a lumber srop
13:13:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> drop
13:13:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just not a pickup
13:13:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Mazur: is on that I think
13:14:14  <Stablean> <Mazur> He is.
13:14:24  <Stablean> <Zack> whatya mean?
13:14:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check !here and !2here Zack
13:16:09  <Stablean> <Zack>  the sawmill i always made timber platforms for lumber
13:16:23  <Stablean> <Zack> at the lumber yard too
13:17:41  <Stablean> <Zack> and in my SP game ive got to transport VEHICLES to the primary industries
13:18:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you are palying ECS
13:18:29  <Stablean> <Zack> no
13:18:32  <Stablean> <Mazur> Where would you want our lumber, CB?
13:18:38  <Stablean> <Zack> firs wasnt compatible with ecs
13:18:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Pukalani: Woods
13:20:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when do we get better trains?
13:20:57  <Stablean> <Mazur> When I say so.
13:21:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
13:21:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh FFS
13:21:24  <Stablean> <Zack> whats FFS?
13:21:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> For Fucks Sakes
13:21:34  <Stablean> <Mazur> For Zucks Sake.
13:22:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> my trains are getting lost
13:23:22  <Stablean> <Zack> be back in a min
13:23:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> kk
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13:24:30  <Stablean> <Mazur> Wrong signal somewhere?
13:24:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no its the pickups
13:24:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have waypointed them now
13:25:37  <Zack__> sometimes waypoints are really useful dont ya think?
13:25:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they can be
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13:26:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> want to join us then Zacky?
13:26:42  <Stablean> <Zack> if im allowed to?
13:26:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I guess you are :P
13:27:18  <Stablean> <Zack> well idk
13:27:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you dont?
13:27:40  <Stablean> <Zack> maybe i will
13:28:02  <Stablean> <Zack> but i didnt played ottd since last PSG
13:28:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and?
13:28:24  <Stablean> <Zack> im a bit out of practice
13:28:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oooh so is Mazur
13:29:08  <KenjiE20> psh, if you're out of practice, most of the members are positively rusty :P
13:30:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol Very true KenjiE20
13:30:30  <Stablean> <Zack> kk
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13:32:50  <Stablean> <Zack> well CB just tell me where ya need some help or an additional line okay?
13:33:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Zack: just build
13:33:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> go wild
13:33:14  <Stablean> <Zack> actually
13:33:49  <Stablean> <Zack> what will that new junction connect to ML?
13:34:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> what new junction?
13:34:26  <Stablean> <Zack> that mazurs building
13:34:40  <Stablean> <Zack> that SLH or someing like that
13:35:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure but I guess he is connecting stuff like wood
13:36:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> shame Jerry isn't going to go bankrupt
13:36:25  <Stablean> <Zack> well theres a new loco now
13:36:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> any good?
13:37:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I like the name Albatros
13:37:47  <Stablean> <Mazur> Fairly good, not?
13:37:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the Name has sold it to me
13:37:58  <Stablean> <Zack> yeah but one of the strongest engines is still the ginzu a4
13:38:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> fastest not strongest
13:38:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> A4 is week
13:38:33  <Stablean> <Zack> 480 TE max?
13:38:43  <Stablean> <Zack> also kN
13:38:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes, but that is effort not power
13:38:55  <Stablean> <Zack> kk
13:39:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TE is fine at low speeds, but means nothing above 50km/h
13:39:40  <Stablean> <Zack> ya could sort the trains to the groups if ya want
13:39:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can you Zack that would be great
13:40:04  <Stablean> <Zack> already doin it
13:40:12  <Stablean> <Mazur> Oh, we need a SLH at Kehaha, there's a bauxite mine.
13:40:30  <Stablean> <Mazur> And a kiln, and a glass works.
13:40:30  <Stablean> <Zack> at village park too
13:40:36  <Stablean> <Zack> bauxite
13:42:03  <Stablean> <Mazur> Ah yes, wrong way around, I noticed that Village park one earlier, and thought, I must find more bits of the chain.
13:43:09  <Stablean> <Mazur> Anyway, going out now, I may be some time.
13:43:15  <Stablean> <Zack> k
13:43:25  <Stablean> <Mazur> Prepared a HUB, but not connected stations yet.
13:45:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Zack: we noticed that track/signals cost huge amounts of money if you run lines empty so be careful.
13:45:02  <Stablean> <Zack> ok all trains grouped
13:45:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> And on that note I am off now
13:45:14  <Stablean> <Zack> k
13:45:16  <Stablean> <Mazur> Bye, CB.
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14:24:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
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14:33:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
14:36:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
14:36:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Hi Dr Nick
14:38:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you want to join Troy McClure?
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14:44:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I thought you where rejecting me Troy McClure
14:44:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so, what's the plan?
14:45:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, sorry had some other things open
14:45:12  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> sorry :)
14:45:13  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure yet, this was just an MM which got big
14:45:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with a small station spread we need to me careful
14:46:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, station spread 4
14:46:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes, I changed it to 10 and got told off
14:46:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wood & oil?
14:46:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hehe, by whom?
14:46:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
14:46:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> V
14:47:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I guess we can have SRNW pickups, and drops between waypoint to get arround the issue
14:48:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all oil then?
14:48:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no oil and wood
14:48:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so how would that work with SRNW?
14:48:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> different tl?
14:50:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I saw you deleted a station
14:50:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at Honok?wai wells, why?
14:50:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> where?
14:50:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you had a station there earlier...
14:51:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Wasn't me playing
14:51:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> aah
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14:51:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> who was?
14:51:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Sylf
14:51:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
14:51:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not sure
14:51:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> hey
14:52:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: check !this for SRNW pickup
14:52:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, yes,
14:52:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you need to build it, my SRNW are not up to date
14:53:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Sylf: any chance of having a higher station spread?
14:53:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> like, how high?
14:53:55  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err, 10?
14:54:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> the low station spread is because of anti-station walking around the farms
14:54:52  <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't want to make it much higher than 6
14:54:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 10 is quite high
14:54:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> 6 or 7
14:55:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 7 is a good size for pickupd
14:55:40  <Sylf> !rcon set station_spread 7
14:55:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> ok, 7.
14:57:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> are those extra train reversers around the oil refinery for train upgrades?
14:58:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes Sylf
14:58:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> make them the same as Terminus stations then Sylf
14:59:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I guess they are not needed at the moment
15:02:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy McClure: try not to have Ro-Ro directly connected
15:02:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why?
15:02:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I don't want the paths
15:02:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay
15:03:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> helps when we are replacing
15:03:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is why I am making them at the exits
15:04:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> :P
15:04:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> dang
15:04:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> there are only 2 machine shops on the map
15:04:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will build you one Sylf
15:05:12  <Stablean> <Sylf> you can't
15:05:23  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's well over 5mil
15:05:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> just realised they are 6million
15:05:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
15:05:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I can build you one in a few years
15:06:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> I think I'll take the lumber yard/lime kiln route
15:07:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> coal&stone to lime kiln, kiln to forest, forest to sawmill to lumber yard to coal mine/quarrey....  It's a big supply chain cycle
15:07:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
15:08:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> and jerry has taken all the forest without farm supplies
15:08:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh be very careful Sylf with your signals / lines
15:08:30  <Stablean> <Sylf> I know.
15:08:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> Signals maintenance is expensive
15:08:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I didn't when I started
15:08:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> almost wen't bankrupt
15:09:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry has had a jam for ages
15:09:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> We could say he went bankrupt
15:10:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> -_-
15:10:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok I take that as a no
15:10:18  <Stablean> <Sylf> such newbie mistake
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15:14:54  <Stablean> <nicfer> what cargos are profittable in FIRS?
15:15:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> all of them
15:16:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
15:16:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Shame I like it as it is
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15:17:54  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> hi
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15:18:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi TrainsOfSodor
15:18:42  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> gah, a FIRS game xD
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15:20:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> too many trains at Kalaeloa Wells, green?
15:20:35  <Stablean> <nicfer> why most farms and fruit plantations have only 18t monthly production?
15:20:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
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15:21:08  <Stablean> <Zack> hi again
15:21:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
15:21:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
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15:21:46  <Stablean> <Zack> sorry i had to learn a bit for test tomorrow
15:21:56  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> ffs pink
15:23:34  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> can someone check my signals at Ewa Gentry Woods?
15:23:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> signals are fine
15:23:52  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> good
15:23:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> missing a piece of rail
15:23:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> track on the other hand
15:24:10  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> well spotted xD
15:24:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those are high maintenance costs
15:24:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for signals
15:24:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
15:25:06  <Stablean> <Zack> signals are always the most expensive
15:25:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> starting with signal gap of 2 will cost you a fortune
15:25:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so playing coop style will bankrupt you
15:25:53  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> that's bad :L
15:25:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> quite ironically.
15:26:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and building ghetto is profitable -_-
15:26:11  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yep
15:26:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> but too much ghetto, and you'll end up like Jerry
15:26:29  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when your lines are busy you can build how you like
15:26:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> be back later
15:26:47  <Stablean> <Zack> k
15:26:49  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> kk bb Troy McClure
15:26:49  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> thanks
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15:27:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> np TrainsOfSodor
15:27:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anyone who put Jerry out of business will get a cookie
15:27:30  <Stablean> <nicfer> thanks for the money
15:27:45  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> what's up with Jerry? :L
15:27:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nothing, he just has a jam
15:28:02  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> ah
15:28:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> his poor drivers have been stuck for years
15:28:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> him having 5 out of 6 forests isn't sitting well with me...
15:28:40  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> lol
15:28:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> but that's a part of this game
15:28:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> *le sigh*
15:28:49  <Stablean> <nicfer> TrainsOfSodor, I'm servicing that
15:28:58  <KenjiE20> in tt all cabs are sleeper cabs :p
15:29:13  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> sorry, thought you were using the iron ore mine
15:31:41  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> REALLY don't like this signal length
15:31:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why?
15:31:58  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> dunno, just don't xD
15:32:01  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> am so used to 2 SL
15:32:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Zack: can you build your ro-ro with a turn arround on the exit?
15:32:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I started with 8 in the end
15:32:58  <Stablean> <Zack> kk
15:33:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nicfer: you want me to flatern my line for you?
15:34:11  <Stablean> <nicfer> nope thanks
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15:38:06  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> I wish I could use ships or helicopters on the dredging site -.-
15:39:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> make that your goal :)  to fly a chopper and still stay profittable
15:39:26  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> cos nothing is anywhere near the Cement Plant I'm using
15:39:38  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> and that's near-impossible :L
15:41:52  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> not enough industries on this map :(
15:42:08  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> and yet it's set to high... odd
15:45:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> Zack, give me some space for me to double track
15:45:13  <Stablean> <Zack> where
15:45:19  <Stablean> <Sylf> at !need space
15:45:41  <Stablean> <Zack> is this enough
15:45:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah.  Thanks.
15:45:58  <Stablean> <Zack> np
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15:51:53  <Stablean> <Zack> i hope thats good enough for now
15:52:39  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> can't be bothered to try and route a line from a quarry to my cement works, its too far away for these treains
15:52:42  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> t
15:52:45  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> trains*
15:52:56  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> and I'll lose money on it if I run a transfer
15:52:57  <Stablean> <TrainsOfSodor> xD
15:54:57  <Stablean> *** A.Ryan has started a new company (#7)
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16:02:26  <Stablean> <Sylf> ugh.  My uber ghetto building
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16:07:25  <Stablean> <Zack> hey CB
16:08:15  <Stablean> <Sylf> zack, how are your trains finding the bauxite drop?
16:08:50  <Stablean> <Zack> whatya mean
16:09:00  <Stablean> <Zack> re they lost
16:09:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> and.... wth
16:09:14  <Stablean> <Zack> ?+
16:09:16  <Stablean> <Sylf> why so many reversers in all of the stations you build?
16:09:39  <Stablean> <Zack> i didnt find a better mod right now
16:09:45  <Stablean> <nicfer> can I order a tram to unload 50% and transfer the other 50%?
16:09:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> no, nicfer
16:10:07  <Stablean> <Sylf> You can only do that through a transfer
16:10:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> transfer to 2 smaller vehicles
16:11:22  <Stablean> <nicfer> what's up with my money?
16:12:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> signal maintenance cost is eating up your earning
16:12:10  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> that company your brought has a ship
16:12:10  <Stablean> <nicfer> the upkeep cost of ships are ***
16:12:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> er no
16:12:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> ships
16:12:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> ships running cost has been like this over a year on this server
16:12:50  <Stablean> <nicfer> cr*a!
16:13:10  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> oh dear
16:13:21  <Stablean> <nicfer> anybody has million?
16:13:43  <Stablean> <nicfer> I'm in serious problems
16:13:50  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> sorry only just stared have no money
16:14:04  <Stablean> * Sylf hands nicfer an abs() function
16:14:04  <Stablean> <nicfer> 10m400k
16:14:26  <Stablean> <nicfer> zack?
16:14:49  <Stablean> <Zack> what
16:15:11  <Stablean> <nicfer> can you send me money?
16:15:21  <Stablean> <nicfer> 10 millons  300k
16:15:24  <Stablean> <Zack> ask CB when hes here
16:15:38  <Stablean> <nicfer> I need it now
16:15:44  <Stablean> <nicfer> or I'll bankrupt
16:16:03  <Stablean> <Zack> its his money and company not mine
16:16:22  <Stablean> <nicfer> I bought a company with a ship and I'm about to lose
16:16:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> oh.  you bought a company.
16:16:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> how typical.
16:17:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> let this be a lesson to you, t hen.
16:17:31  <Stablean> <Zack> hey sylf check now that bauxite station out
16:18:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> did something change?
16:18:09  <Stablean> <Zack> check out
16:18:31  <Stablean> <Zack> two reversers are gone
16:18:57  <Stablean> <Sylf> you still don't need the reverser after the mine
16:19:08  <Stablean> <Zack> CB said i have to do it
16:19:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> no no no
16:19:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> You need a terminus station
16:20:01  <Stablean> <Zack> wait a little
16:20:03  <Stablean> <Zack> ok?
16:20:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> or a roro with a reverser, I suppose
16:20:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> when you come back, I'm more concerned about the aluminum plant
16:21:34  <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined spectators
16:22:06  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> join my company
16:22:28  <Stablean> <nicfer> and nobody bought my company to at least save my ownings?
16:22:34  <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #7
16:22:36  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> yes i did
16:22:42  <Stablean> <nicfer> oh thanks
16:22:57  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> you can join my comp if you like
16:23:11  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> i need the help
16:25:58  <Stablean> *** MATO sk joined the game
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16:31:55  <Stablean> <Zack> hey chris
16:32:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Zack
16:32:16  <Stablean> <Zack> check out the bauxite lines and improve the if ya can okay?
16:32:35  <Stablean> <Zack> ive connected two mines already to an aluplant
16:33:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> a simple one like that will do
16:33:42  <Stablean> <Zack> k
16:34:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you going to take the metal to teh machine shop?
16:34:11  <Stablean> <Zack> was just bout to ask
16:34:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no reason why not
16:35:17  <Stablean> <Zack> wait
16:35:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok
16:37:55  <Stablean> <Zack> i just made some more trains for second bauxite mine
16:38:53  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout)
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16:38:53  <Stablean> <Zack> im gonna make the steel trains you the orders okay?
16:39:06  <Sylf> :(
16:39:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
16:39:18  <Stablean> <Zack> whats a general timeout?
16:39:26  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
16:39:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> ryan & nicfer, can you put a password to your company?
16:41:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> this server is troll proof
16:41:36  <Stablean> <Zack> shouldnt we expand the station at the machine shop just in case?
16:41:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> at some point in time
16:41:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but its more fun to see it jam first
16:42:02  <Stablean> <Zack> at beginning yes
16:42:08  <Stablean> <Zack> later no
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16:42:40  <Stablean> <Zack> wb troy
16:42:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will be leaving soon again tho;)
16:43:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol wb and bb Troy McClure
16:43:16  <Stablean> <Zack> okay six steel trains on the run for now
16:44:37  <Stablean> *** MATO sk has left the game (desync error)
16:45:08  <planetmaker> nice
16:45:23  <planetmaker> !rcon debuglevel
16:45:23  <Stablean> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, script=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0'
16:45:31  <planetmaker> !rcon debuglevel desync=3
16:45:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, original vehicles are also in set?
16:46:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no Troy McClure its openGFX+
16:46:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, okay
16:46:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> how about replacing engines?
16:46:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with UU
16:46:43  <Stablean> <Zack> albatros is still the fastest
16:46:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, woudl think that
16:46:56  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> electrify all and replace with E 499.0
16:47:10  <Stablean> <Zack> should i do that?
16:47:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> E499 is slower
16:47:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or UU 37, would also do, but it's weaker
16:47:27  <Sylf> Let's hope that desync is different from what we've been seeing
16:47:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not slower than current material
16:47:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or wait for a better train
16:47:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> E499.0 goes 120 kph, current one too
16:48:36  <planetmaker> what have you been seeing, Sylf?
16:49:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but E499.0 has higher Power (2802 vs 1977), more TE (211 vs 136) and is lighter (82 vs 106)
16:49:14  <Stablean> <Zack> and more expensive
16:49:18  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: [16:38]	Stablean	*** Sylf has left the game (general timeout)
16:49:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 450 or so more/year
16:49:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so not by much
16:49:39  <planetmaker> that's not a desync, Chris_Booth
16:49:52  <Stablean> <Zack> whats it then?
16:49:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> all trains can miss that much
16:49:54  <Chris_Booth> I know that planetmaker was just showing you
16:50:08  <Chris_Booth> [16:44]	Stablean	*** MATO sk has left the game (desync error) <-- thats a desync
16:50:13  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (desync error)
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16:50:25  <Chris_Booth> and so was all of those planetmaker
16:50:27  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game
16:50:27  <Sylf> holy crap
16:50:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that wa desync
16:50:35  <Stablean> *** Zack joined the game
16:50:40  <Chris_Booth> lol
16:50:42  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators
16:50:46  <Stablean> <Zack> network game synchronization faILED
16:50:56  <Sylf> MATO's desync was the first one since we switched to beta 3
16:51:00  <Sylf> but now this...
16:51:06  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (desync error)
16:51:10  <Stablean> <Zack> thats what i read
16:51:14  <Sylf> and now it's my turn
16:51:20  <Chris_Booth> lol
16:51:22  <Stablean> <Zack> XD
16:51:26  <Chris_Booth> has something gone wrong?
16:51:33  <planetmaker> meh
16:51:35  <planetmaker> right
16:51:39  <V453000> o_O
16:51:41  <planetmaker> time to turn on debugging again
16:51:42  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
16:51:46  <planetmaker> we should never have turned it off
16:51:54  <Sylf> I suppose not.
16:52:04  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to A.Ryan
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16:52:57  <Chris_Booth> what causes desyncs?
16:53:02  <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start1
16:53:03  <Stablean> planetmaker: Saving map...
16:53:03  <Stablean> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to desync_start1.sav
16:53:13  <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start1
16:53:14  <Stablean> planetmaker: desync_start1: No such file or directory.
16:53:17  <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start1.sav
16:53:18  <Stablean> planetmaker: desync_start1.sav: No such file or directory.
16:53:21  <planetmaker> !rcon pwd
16:53:21  <Stablean> planetmaker: /home/ottdc/svn-stable/autopilot/save/uploads/
16:53:24  <planetmaker> !rcon cd ..
16:53:27  <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start1
16:53:35  <planetmaker> !rcon debuglevel
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16:53:41  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
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16:53:53  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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16:54:10  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to A.Ryan
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16:54:27  <planetmaker> !rcon debuglevel
16:54:27  <Stablean> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, script=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0'
16:55:30  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
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16:58:10  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (general timeout)
16:58:10  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
16:58:24  <Zack__> general timeoutagain
16:58:44  <Zack__> hey sylf what does it say in the red box?
16:59:19  <Zack__> that pops out whe you lose connection
16:59:55  <Sylf> Network-Game connection lost
17:00:15  <Stablean> <Zack> k
17:00:23  <Sylf> It's not the same as desync error.
17:01:00  <Sylf> I share my internet with my landlord
17:01:23  <Sylf> our router is in his place... and it's failing to serve its web interface
17:01:37  <Sylf> :/   I may have a bad internet day
17:02:27  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (downloading map took too long)
17:02:27  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost)
17:02:40  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
17:03:50  <planetmaker> hm, too slow download, too slow cpu. Poor Sylf
17:04:19  <Sylf> :D
17:05:05  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game
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17:07:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> zZzZzzzZ
17:08:11  <Stablean> <Zack> hey CB you could lead some ES trains to the bauxite mines
17:08:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can do that Zack
17:09:15  <Stablean> <Zack> at least the trains were still not jamming at the machine shop
17:18:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am going for the UU
17:18:44  <Stablean> <Zack> k
17:19:50  <Stablean> <Zack> oky i think that should work now
17:20:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> kk I am afk
17:20:33  <Stablean> <Zack> the metal trains were bringing in the most income now right?
17:20:37  <Stablean> <Zack> k
17:20:51  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (general timeout)
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17:27:56  <Stablean> <Zack> bb
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17:28:51  <Stablean> <Zack> F***
17:33:33  <Stablean> <Zack> another crash
17:33:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> huzzah
17:33:49  <Stablean> <A.Ryan> crap
17:35:35  <Stablean> <Sylf> forklifts are awesome for engineering supply :D
17:39:02  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game
17:39:14  <Stablean> <Zack> wb
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17:39:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks
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17:40:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> aaah good
17:40:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yep
17:41:12  <Stablean> <Zack> yes
17:41:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check again Zack
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17:43:28  <Stablean> <Zack> wait a little
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17:53:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Zack: don't do that please
17:54:13  *** Sylf has quit IRC
17:56:02  <Stablean> <Zack> be back later
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18:03:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nicfer can you move !this
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18:03:46  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf
18:03:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ?
18:07:57  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Fuck
18:08:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Well that is one way to crash 3 trains
18:10:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> zzzZZzzzZzzz
18:10:28  <Stablean> *** Cif has left the game (processing map took too long)
18:10:28  <Stablean> *** Cif has left the game (connection lost)
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18:22:46  <planetmaker> I wonder if we should up some timeout settings
18:25:53  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1
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18:26:58  <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game
18:27:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Jerry
18:27:28  <Stablean> <Jerry> hi
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18:32:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Just normal
18:32:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> terminus, roro, presignals, pbs
18:32:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> waypointed?
18:32:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no waypoints
18:32:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> reversers
18:32:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> anything else goes
18:33:09  <Stablean> *** Cif has started a new company (#6)
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18:35:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, i see
18:36:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, noticed
18:40:57  <Stablean> *** Cif has left the game (general timeout)
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18:48:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
18:57:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> looks it
18:58:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is one huge turner
18:58:46  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
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19:00:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Sylf
19:00:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
19:03:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nicfer?
19:04:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
19:04:22  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long)
19:04:22  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost)
19:04:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> longtime
19:04:35  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
19:04:39  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
19:06:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nicfer?
19:07:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oh
19:07:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> Troy/Chris, you have a fail overflow at Makena Petrol
19:08:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes I can see
19:08:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, we were talking about it in team XD
19:08:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks for the heads up Sylf
19:08:28  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
19:08:38  <Stablean> <Sylf> Player, please change your nick
19:09:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nicfer: can you please give us a bit more room @ !this?
19:10:28  <Stablean> <nicfer> I can't find any signs
19:10:46  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you've checked the sign list?
19:10:48  <Stablean> <Sylf> show competitor signs
19:11:15  <Stablean> <nicfer> where?
19:11:17  <Stablean> <Sylf> also, you can always use the signs list window
19:11:27  <Stablean> <Sylf> use the signs list window
19:11:47  <Stablean> <nicfer> I'm using it but there's no signs
19:11:57  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #7
19:12:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see them now?
19:12:19  <Stablean> <nicfer> no
19:12:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ʻUalapuʻe Mines
19:12:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> Enable Competitor Signs and Names Displayed
19:12:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> Under settings
19:12:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you bridges that cross my ML
19:12:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks <3
19:13:10  <Stablean> <nicfer> I can see now when he placed the signs with my company
19:13:44  <Stablean> <Sylf> but seriously... enable that setting
19:14:42  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #3
19:14:58  <Stablean> <nicfer> where is that?
19:15:06  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> advanced settings
19:15:10  <Stablean> <Sylf> third button
19:15:10  <Stablean> *** Big_Meech joined the game
19:15:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hello
19:15:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> 5th option from the bottom
19:16:27  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, where is it?
19:18:41  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #7
19:19:26  <Stablean> <nicfer> yeah, but not about the signs
19:19:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> have we asked player to change his / her name yet?
19:19:42  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes, once
19:19:53  <Stablean> <nicfer> only trees and houses
19:19:55  <Stablean> <Sylf> but you can do that again
19:20:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Sylf, where is that "show competitor signs too" in advanced settings
19:20:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I would expect it to be under Interface>display options
19:20:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> in the settings menu
19:20:50  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's not in advanced options
19:20:56  <Stablean> <Sylf> it's not in transparency options
19:21:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> Just under that cog icon
19:21:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> or wrench icon
19:21:24  <Stablean> <nicfer> oh, I saw it
19:21:38  <Stablean> <nicfer> I was searching on advanced settings
19:21:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, I see
19:21:47  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #3
19:22:29  <Stablean> <nicfer> is the bridge long enough now?
19:22:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Sylf: you want a machine shop?
19:22:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> no
19:22:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, it is nicfer, I already changed it
19:22:53  <Stablean> <Sylf> smithy forge works well enough
19:23:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> YES, A NEW PLANE
19:23:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> LETS TRY
19:23:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> OH NO, ITS VERY EXPENSIVE
19:23:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> `
19:23:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BUT WAIT, BOATS ARENT
19:23:49  <Stablean> <Sylf> zoom zoom
19:23:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> LETS TRY RUNNING A BOAT...
19:23:57  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> BOATS ARE GUD IDEA
19:24:29  <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has changed his/her name to Captain_Meech
19:24:33  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> Ahoy matey
19:24:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Ahoy
19:24:41  <Stablean> <Sylf> :D
19:24:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> afk
19:24:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
19:24:59  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined spectators
19:25:31  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> I need some buckaroo's for my crew :D
19:25:59  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> ones with real names and leave room for ML's near waimanalo beach :D
19:26:14  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> yarrr
19:28:09  <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game
19:29:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> How much do pirates pay for their earings?
19:29:21  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> nothing, we plunder them from women xD
19:29:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no, you ruined my joke
19:29:35  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> then the women surrender their booty
19:29:37  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has joined company #3
19:29:49  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> <-- ruiner
19:29:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are a bunk-an-ear
19:30:06  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> haha
19:30:16  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> bbl, hopefully someone will let my join thier company later :)
19:30:28  <Stablean> *** Jerry has left the game (connection lost)
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19:40:23  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
19:40:37  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8)
19:40:41  <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators
19:43:21  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> player, can't you join your old company instad of making a new one ?
19:43:59  <Stablean> <Captain_Meech> bbl buys
19:44:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
19:47:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and make a new one
19:48:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> combine it?
19:48:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with !this one?
19:48:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Make a 4 way?
19:49:04  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
19:49:15  <Chris_Booth> !players
19:49:18  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 199 (Green) is Troy McClure, in company 3 (Chris Booth Transport)
19:49:18  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 271 (Pink) is Player, in company 6 (Player Transport)
19:49:18  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 262 is Captain_Meech, a spectator
19:49:18  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 224 (Green) is Chris Booth, in company 3 (Chris Booth Transport)
19:49:18  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 215 (Orange) is nicfer, in company 7 (A.Ryan Transport)
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19:49:40  <Chris_Booth> !players
19:49:43  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 199 (Green) is Troy McClure, in company 3 (Chris Booth Transport)
19:49:43  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 271 (Pink) is Player, in company 6 (Player Transport)
19:49:43  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 262 is Captain_Meech, a spectator
19:49:43  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 224 (Green) is Chris Booth, in company 3 (Chris Booth Transport)
19:49:43  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: Client 215 (Orange) is nicfer, in company 7 (A.Ryan Transport)
19:49:49  <Chris_Booth> !rcon move 271 255
19:49:49  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
19:50:04  <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #6
19:50:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Player: please change your name
19:50:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> type !name Adam into the chat
19:50:59  <Chris_Booth> !rcon move 271 255
19:50:59  <Stablean> Chris_Booth: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
19:52:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> followed by the nick you desier
19:52:20  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to dave
19:52:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thanks dave
19:52:58  <Stablean> <dave> batterys about to die
19:53:09  <Stablean> *** dave has left the game (leaving)
19:53:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
20:07:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
20:07:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Newgrf error
20:09:28  <Sylf>  oh?
20:09:49  <Sylf> did it say which grf or anything?
20:10:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a train, the Franz
20:10:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> something about refitting issues
20:10:38  <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game
20:11:25  <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #4
20:11:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> ah, that.
20:12:22  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> known issue, Im guessing?
20:12:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> not that i know of
20:13:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> but if it's CSD set related, then I'm not too concerned
20:24:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> does !this work properly?
20:24:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
20:28:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> kk
20:28:59  <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game
20:30:15  <Stablean> <Jerry> whay have somone destroyd a bit of my lign?!
20:30:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> ?  like where?
20:31:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the part you killed Jerry?
20:32:34  <Stablean> <Jerry> ye when a walkt away i had a lign from Halaúla to Pa´auilo now it´s gon ;(
20:33:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> that's a really long line to be gone like that...
20:34:13  <Chris_Booth> @logsd
20:34:14  <Chris_Booth> @logs
20:34:16  <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer -
20:34:42  <Stablean> <Jerry> ye and my accont had a pass and now i hasen´t.
20:35:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> the game was reloaded once
20:35:07  <Chris_Booth> that was as the server was reset
20:35:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm
20:35:17  <Stablean> <Jerry> ok
20:35:18  <Chris_Booth> 18:26:58  <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game <-- was you line there then?
20:35:28  <Chris_Booth> since you where the last one in your company
20:35:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or another Jerry
20:36:28  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> last piece, Jerry...
20:36:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ...
20:37:21  <Stablean> <Jerry> anyway i think it´s wary bad that somone has deleted my stuff
20:37:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and i think its bad you're blocking us...
20:37:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so please, remove that last piece
20:39:00  <Stablean> <Jerry> so somone dident lik that i should transport stuff to som specifik faktorys
20:39:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ?
20:40:52  <Stablean> <Jerry> i hope you are rely proud of your self!
20:41:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry: what?
20:41:36  <Stablean> *** Jerry has left the game (general timeout)
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20:43:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
20:43:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> uh, what?
20:44:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> did he get pissed about nothing?
20:44:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> he got pissed at lost rails
20:44:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I would be too
20:44:33  <Stablean> <Sylf> But I wonder if it was ever there
20:44:53  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> It was
20:44:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and he deleted them
20:45:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or someone called Jerry
20:45:21  <Stablean> <Sylf> if you have a pair of rails stretching half of the map, unsed for 20 years...
20:45:31  <Stablean> <Sylf> It's the rest of the players who has the right to be pissed
20:45:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> amirite?
20:45:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
20:45:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah I guess
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21:02:08  <Jerry_> Cheaters on this server :( . It is just a game but why cheat?
21:02:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why do you have so much affection for some rails
21:02:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what did they connect anyway
21:03:08  <Sylf> how long ago did you lay those rails?
21:03:30  <Jerry_> 13:00 today
21:03:46  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 8 hours ago
21:03:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and you never used them
21:03:55  <Sylf> You're in CET?
21:04:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not that I am condoning people digging them up
21:04:18  <Jerry_> CET?
21:04:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Centreal Europen Time
21:04:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> UTC/GTM is UK time
21:04:34  <Jerry_> yes
21:04:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> CET is GTM +1
21:04:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> GMT
21:05:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and only true in summer saving time
21:05:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes GMT
21:05:12  <Sylf> So anyway.
21:05:30  <Sylf> Did you have trains running there?
21:05:40  <Jerry_> yess one
21:05:49  <Jerry_> without cars
21:05:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> hmmmm ok
21:05:58  <Stablean> <Sylf> wha?
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21:08:55  <Jerry_> i didnet have time before i had to go to fix it. And exedently tunrnd a engine on whitout cars.
21:09:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> Did someone remove Jerry's station next to Pukalani machine shop?
21:09:25  <Stablean> <Sylf> Where green's Pukalani Woods is at right now
21:09:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I deleted his blocking station
21:09:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but never deleted his tracks
21:10:40  <Stablean> <Sylf> You shouldn't have
21:10:50  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it was blocking,
21:10:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it wasn't used
21:11:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and I did not remove his tracks
21:11:14  <Stablean> <Sylf> Now you're setting an example that anyone who annoys the server's supporter will remove or do whatever we like
21:11:24  <Stablean> <Sylf> He said he ran out of time
21:11:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> /rules
21:12:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> And with your financial power, it was EASY to build another machine shop in an open spot
21:12:30  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> After he blocked me for 8 hours?
21:12:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Servicing the same industry requires agreement of both players, although is not recommended.
21:12:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Do not block other players
21:13:08  <Stablean> <Sylf> It wasn't a sabotage type of block
21:13:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I never said that
21:14:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> anyway.  I'm going to go search what time it was removed exactly - the entire stretch of the rail
21:14:20  <Stablean> <Sylf> the whole situation is starting to piss me off either way
21:14:34  <Stablean> <Sylf> long unused piece of rail - bad
21:14:44  <Chris_Booth> 18:26:58  <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game <-- Sylf look at that time
21:14:46  <Stablean> <Sylf> forced removal - also bad
21:14:58  <Jerry_> it is just a game, but it´s sad whit people that have to cheat to win.
21:15:00  <Stablean> <Sylf> I don't know what time that is
21:15:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no one forced anyone to remove anything
21:15:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is 18:00 GTM
21:15:22  <Stablean> <Sylf> Did you see the rail getting removed at that time?
21:15:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> That was when I deleted his station
21:15:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> WHAT
21:15:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> You're confusing me
21:16:01  <Stablean> <Sylf> Leave me alone for a minute
21:16:03  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am saying look after then
21:16:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm doing my own digging
21:16:08  <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving)
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21:16:58  <Stablean> <V453000> evening
21:16:59  <Jerry_> thx sylf
21:17:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> evening V453000
21:17:12  <Stablean> <V453000> what the hell is happening here
21:18:44  <Jerry_> somone  have deleted a big pease of my rail
21:18:51  <Jerry_> :\
21:19:23  <Stablean> <V453000> where?
21:20:25  <Jerry_> threw the hole map
21:20:45  <Jerry_> (i´m not in now)
21:20:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> im off
21:20:57  <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving)
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21:21:30  <Stablean> <V453000> so just because someone has rails where you want to build, it is ok to remove his rails?
21:21:36  <Stablean> <V453000> what the shit Chris Booth?
21:21:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> It wasn't me
21:21:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I was moving his station
21:22:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> going to build it again
21:22:08  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with its own oil ref
21:22:11  <Stablean> <V453000> why do you even touch his stuff
21:22:21  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> to give my self some room
21:22:29  <Stablean> <V453000> go elsewhere when there isnt room?
21:22:47  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why should jerry have built next to me anyway?
21:23:01  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I asked him not to when he did it
21:23:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I was just moving his station
21:23:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Troy, deleted his lines
21:23:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and did it under his name
21:23:51  <Sylf> Troy is banned for good, then.
21:24:17  <Jerry_> chris you just wondered then what my purpes was..
21:24:27  <Stablean> <V453000> I still ottally dont understand why would you demolish anything that anyone built
21:25:06  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> It wasn't used I was moving it. no more than 5 tiles away from where it was
21:25:17  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> He would have never known
21:25:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I never deleted anything
21:25:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I
21:26:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I think we need to look at what happened
21:26:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> who joined as someone else
21:26:37  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Who I thought was jerry deleted the line then left
21:27:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Jerry I am very sorry, if you want help rebuilding I will help you
21:27:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will even fund your own Refinery for you to use
21:30:20  *** Sylf sets mode: -o Chris_Booth
21:31:12  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
21:31:58  <Chris_Booth> that is fair enough. I deserve that
21:35:47  <Sylf> !rcon ban
21:35:47  <Stablean> Sylf: Client not online, address added to banlist
21:36:07  <Sylf> There, I put Troy's IP to the game's ban list for now
21:36:31  <Chris_Booth> that is also fair enough
21:36:42  <Sylf> impersonation is bad enough, the large scare destruction was not funny at all.
21:37:09  <Chris_Booth> No it isn't
21:39:02  <Sylf> CRAP, I feel old.
21:39:15  <Chris_Booth> another year?
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21:39:33  <V453000> old? :)
21:39:34  <Sylf> using this tiny mouse with not so comfy desk for 2 weeks...
21:39:56  <Sylf> Just doing that is now giving me a shoulder pain the size of China
21:40:32  * Sylf runs to his massage machine
21:41:32  <V453000> hm :)
21:42:33  <Chris_Booth> Sylf: you need a massage with a happy ending
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21:47:30  <Sylf> I just remembered I have couple of stations I haven't added any trains to >_<
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21:48:03  <Stablean> <Sylf> Good, my rails and stations are still there
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22:13:35  <Stablean> <nicfer #1> why the tram at Mānele is only delivering ES at the iron ore mine?
22:14:51  <Stablean> <Sylf> 1 station can only deliver the supply to 1 industry
22:15:05  <Stablean> <Sylf> to service both, you need 2 stations
22:15:48  <Stablean> <nicfer #1> is that a bug?
22:16:04  <Stablean> <Sylf> no.
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22:20:34  <Stablean> <nicfer #1> the long trams are from HEQS?
22:20:45  <Stablean> <Sylf> yes.
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22:25:47  <Stablean> <Sylf> so, why are there two of you?
22:26:18  <Stablean> <nicfer #1> I joined from my alternate pc and can't close from the other
22:26:52  <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving)
22:26:57  <Stablean> <nicfer #1> there I go
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