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00:09:43 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:09:43 <Stablean> *** Rieksts joined the game 00:11:12 <Stablean> *** Rieksts has left the game (leaving) 00:11:33 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:11:34 <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game 00:11:35 <Stablean> <Mazur> lo 00:11:39 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hi 00:11:54 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> not only did you go broke, but I did too sometime last night when my trains jammed xD 00:12:24 <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes, Beech, and I explained earlier what happened, but you were spectating away frmo the keyboard. 00:12:34 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill go back and go through history 00:12:45 <Stablean> <Mazur> I can tell you again. 00:12:47 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good times 00:12:50 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> nah, just read it 00:13:00 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> no biggie 00:13:27 <Stablean> <Mazur> Clearly I did something similar, to go broke. 00:13:37 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> not to late for you and me to team up and not fail this time :D 00:14:04 <Stablean> <Mazur> Yeah, other plans for tonight, though. 00:14:11 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oooh 00:14:18 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> like sleeping probably 00:14:29 <Stablean> <Mazur> Eventually. 00:14:53 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I liked my drop area cuz i didnt fund anything and pretty much all the drops in the game were right there 00:15:07 <Stablean> <Mazur> That's nice. 00:15:26 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> factory and food plant are still there 00:15:50 <Stablean> <Mazur> BUt a headache in the later game, since all trains coe together in a big jam. 00:15:52 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:15:52 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:15:54 <Stablean> *** Guvnor joined the game 00:15:56 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sadly 00:16:50 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I think everyone on this map should go broke xD 00:17:00 <Stablean> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 00:19:08 <Stablean> *** Helly Hansen joined the game 00:19:37 <Stablean> *** Helly Hansen has left the game (leaving) 00:20:14 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has started a new company (#4) 00:20:26 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> guv, im going to make a sign for something you should avoid building 00:20:48 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at !here 00:20:50 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> on the signlist 00:21:16 <Stablean> <Guvnor> ok 00:21:27 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> like uh 00:21:31 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if you had room i would go 00:21:41 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and build a bridge then another hookup for the other line going east 00:22:03 <Stablean> <Guvnor> makes sense, 00:22:17 <Stablean> <Guvnor> might have been in a rush there :P 00:22:19 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> somethingk like that , but obsiously not with 1CL curves 00:22:42 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at demo 00:23:00 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> cuz basically those 4 ways have a signal gap 00:23:10 <Stablean> <Guvnor> oh, i see 00:23:16 <Stablean> <Guvnor> yeah, the gap is big 00:23:20 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yup 00:23:38 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but othet than that, some of your work looks pretty good 00:23:49 <Stablean> <Guvnor> cool, thanks 00:24:19 <Stablean> <Guvnor> adding in those prios basically fixed my ML bandwidth issues (for now) 00:24:37 <Stablean> <Guvnor> i was at "capacity" and now it looks like i have room 00:25:04 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> having prio's ( which i still need building lessons on ) usually straightens things out 00:25:14 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> having faster accellerating trains is good too 00:25:20 <Stablean> <Guvnor> yeah 00:25:27 <V453000> Sylf: still around< 00:25:29 <V453000> ? 00:25:43 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hello V 00:26:01 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Sylf isnt in game, not sure if he's lurking where you're at Dr. V. 00:26:39 <V453000> :P Hi 00:26:47 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hello 00:29:45 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has joined spectators 00:32:30 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> since youre working there 00:32:40 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> eh, nevermind 00:37:27 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (general timeout) 00:37:27 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (connection lost) 00:37:29 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:39:18 <Guvnor> list my connection 00:39:25 <Guvnor> *lost 00:39:27 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> so i noticed 00:39:53 <Guvnor> hmmmm, and i cant reconnect 00:40:07 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> keep trying 00:40:58 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 00:40:58 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:40:59 <Stablean> *** Guvnor joined the game 00:41:01 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> wb 00:41:08 <Stablean> <Guvnor> :P 00:47:07 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> actually 00:47:13 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has started a new company (#4) 00:47:45 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at !signal gap 00:48:23 <Stablean> <Guvnor> thinking...... 00:48:37 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> bring that line out 1 more space 00:49:03 <Stablean> <Guvnor> it let me add a signal right there at the point 00:49:10 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk 00:49:24 <Stablean> <Guvnor> which i believe may have fixed the gap 00:54:38 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has joined spectators 00:56:02 <Stablean> <Guvnor> i will be back on later 00:56:08 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (leaving) 00:56:08 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 03:27:23 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:27:25 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 03:27:42 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 03:53:16 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 03:53:17 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 03:53:17 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 04:05:28 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (downloading map took too long) 04:05:28 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (connection lost) 04:07:04 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 04:07:04 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (leaving) 04:07:04 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:07:24 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:07:24 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (connection lost) 04:07:29 <Stablean> *** Guvnor joined the game 04:07:29 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 04:07:42 <Stablean> <Guvnor> hello 04:07:48 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 04:07:48 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (connection lost) 04:08:06 <Stablean> <Guvnor> ok 04:08:36 <Stablean> <Guvnor> so the network wasnt jammed.....i thought it was when i saw the negative income when logging in 04:32:28 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 04:38:52 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech joined the game 05:45:51 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (leaving) 05:45:52 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 05:49:30 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 05:49:30 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 05:49:30 <Stablean> *** Guvnor joined the game 05:51:48 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol 05:51:53 <Stablean> <Guvnor> :P 06:00:53 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 06:01:01 <Stablean> <Sylf> hewwo 06:01:07 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hi there 06:01:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> still only 1955 06:01:40 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> nobody playing much 06:02:02 <Stablean> <Sylf> I've been told I used a town building set that nobody can find 06:02:02 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i went broke, it not i would be playing 06:02:20 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Well I have the set, but i got it from the pack probably on the site 06:02:55 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 06:03:03 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> cool kids get the pack 06:03:13 <Stablean> <Sylf> I might abandon this map early 06:03:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> This looks much like Guvnor's solo map 06:03:47 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I think Maz is grumpy like me too over total company collapse 06:04:23 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> id consider team building but only with help 06:04:45 <Stablean> <Sylf> I can help get you started 06:04:48 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha, thats a redundant statement 06:05:19 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I need to learn how to build a darned slh 06:05:21 <Stablean> <Sylf> give me some rough plan, and we'll take a plunge 06:05:27 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk well 06:05:37 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> the original factory and food processori are still there 06:05:47 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> near Guv's Copper Pick 6 06:06:05 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and last night basically I owned everything south and west of that where guv isnt 06:06:05 <Stablean> <Sylf> k 06:06:24 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i started with the dual copper near bahcepazaryurt 06:07:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> if we want a quick cash, Büyükayva Rubber Plantation is a big producer 06:08:04 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lets go 06:08:19 <Stablean> <Sylf> you go 06:08:29 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> fine :P 06:08:32 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has started a new company (#4) 06:08:38 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #4 06:09:03 <Stablean> <Sylf> standard 06:10:15 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you were talking at !this ? 06:10:37 <Stablean> <Sylf> No, at Mardin Forest station 06:12:59 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> cache both 06:14:33 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> long train xD 06:14:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> quick cash 06:15:50 <Stablean> <Sylf> now you can build anything you want 06:17:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> yeah 06:17:52 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> tdone 06:18:30 <Stablean> <Sylf> It's a bit too weak 06:19:00 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> another engine add ? 06:19:10 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh well, it gets to the destination without too much slowdown 06:19:24 <Stablean> <Sylf> what we have is probably optimal for initial money maker 06:19:36 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk 06:21:35 <Stablean> <Sylf> this is a pretty dead looking map 06:21:53 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lot of the primaries are gone 06:22:17 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what script got goofed up ? xD 06:25:44 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sorry, took your money away 06:27:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> there you go, a quick secondary startup 06:28:21 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :D 06:28:35 <Stablean> <Sylf> add signals, and add trains 06:30:29 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> would help if i get my signals correct 06:30:59 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ` 06:31:06 <Stablean> <Sylf> there ya go 06:31:20 <Stablean> <Sylf> right hand drive. 06:31:20 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> how many tiles did you set for block ? 06:31:27 <Stablean> <Sylf> 8 06:31:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'd start with 6 in this area 06:31:55 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk 06:32:11 <Stablean> <Sylf> just good enough 06:33:33 <Stablean> <Sylf> left hand drive? 06:33:37 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> omh 06:33:40 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im dumb 06:34:51 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> maybe i should quit if icant even get a decent signal right :( 06:41:26 <Stablean> <Sylf> use Full Load Any Cargo order 06:41:44 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok 06:41:46 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> any reason behind that? 06:41:49 <Stablean> <Sylf> Full load all cargo won't work with that engine, because regearing is considered as a cargo 06:41:56 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sick 06:42:10 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk ill go fix the others 06:42:29 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk thanks 06:43:04 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> question 06:43:10 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i dont understand this one but 06:43:12 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> *bit 06:43:35 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if your train is too long for the depot it takes about 5x longer to load or unload, any reason behind that or just a game issue 06:44:01 <Stablean> <Sylf> It's just a game design 06:44:24 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> man 06:44:46 <Stablean> <Sylf> If you have a 3.1 long train in a 3tile long station, it takes a bit longer than normal. 06:45:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> If you have 8 tile long train in a 2 tile long station, it takes forever and a day. 06:45:06 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah, cant figure that out 06:45:12 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha 06:50:39 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'm falling asleep at my desk 06:50:47 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i need to go too, almost 2am here 06:50:57 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> have a good one sylf 06:50:59 <Stablean> <Sylf> keep the long train 06:51:05 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I will 06:51:11 <Stablean> <Sylf> then you'll be safe from any goof-ups 06:51:18 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha 06:51:24 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good idea actually 06:51:40 <Stablean> <Sylf> see ya 06:51:41 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 06:51:43 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> night bud 06:51:47 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has joined spectators 07:12:14 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> g'nite Guvnor 07:12:32 <Stablean> <Guvnor> nite! 08:17:59 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (leaving) 08:17:59 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 08:24:51 *** kuch3n has quit IRC 08:41:28 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:41:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:43:08 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:22:31 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 10:09:18 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:09:18 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:09:19 <Stablean> *** Scia joined the game 10:18:07 <Stablean> *** Scia has left the game (leaving) 10:18:07 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:35:38 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:35:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:36:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:48:03 <Stablean> *** Jerry has started a new company (#5) 10:48:03 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:48:03 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:48:05 <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game 10:57:34 <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game 10:57:55 <Stablean> <Mazur> Moar ning 10:58:46 <V453000> moar 10:59:02 <Mazur> v0.2.0 is better, not? 10:59:20 <Mazur> Question is, are there any mistakes left. 10:59:25 <V453000> 0 2 0 of? :D 10:59:43 <Mazur> I suppose I can find them today, hardly looked at it. 10:59:51 <Mazur> FURS 0.7.0 flow chart., 11:00:25 <Mazur> Bear skins, ermin, mink, you know, furs. 11:00:31 <V453000> ah, I dont really follow that much 11:00:42 <Mazur> Noone is. 11:00:58 <V453000> hm yeah that looks a lot better 11:01:06 <Mazur> I guess not many opther people were waiting for it. 11:01:11 <Mazur> :-D 11:01:37 <V453000> idk I always have a certain request what I want to do. Like last firs game I wanted to make all industries in as low amount of stations as possible, so I made my own chart based on that 11:02:02 <V453000> so I dont really give your chart much attention 11:02:21 <Mazur> Would that multiplier indication by thickness of connection be useful? 11:02:41 <Mazur> I mean, do you reckon with that? 11:02:56 <V453000> it definitely looks much less messy now 11:03:16 <Mazur> Hoiw much tons iof output come from one ton of input/ 11:03:45 <V453000> ah so 11:03:54 <V453000> guess not 11:04:03 <Mazur> Thoughrt so, which is why I left it out 11:04:26 <V453000> perhaps when the supplying mechanism gets upgraded and there is a shortage of supplies 11:04:31 <V453000> so you have to care about it 11:04:37 <Mazur> Indeed. 11:04:42 <V453000> but now, nobody needs to do anything like think how much of what you get 11:05:01 <V453000> and imo that would be even above the top 11:05:03 <Mazur> Just wher to get it or where to ship the result. 11:05:15 <V453000> planning for 120937 industries is "good" enough already :d 11:05:26 * Mazur agrees. 11:05:37 <Mazur> Still, it misses a still. 11:06:07 <Mazur> For wodka from potatoes, Jenever from Grain... 11:07:17 <Mazur> I mean, what is a night getting hammered without being able to sink a shot glass full of liquor in your beer? 11:10:12 <V453000> ? :D 11:13:04 <Mazur> It just helps when you get to that stage, when the beer alone just doens't get you legless anymore, and you just want to forget. 11:14:48 <Mazur> Which is a step along the path to alcoholism. 11:14:54 * Mazur has got the T-shirt. 11:15:49 <V453000> :D 11:15:50 <Stablean> <Jerry> yeee my first train :) 11:17:20 <Stablean> <Mazur> Congrats. 11:23:12 <Stablean> <Mazur> Why do you make platforms of length 4 when your trains are 3 long, Jerry? 11:23:24 <Stablean> <Jerry> i dont know 11:23:30 <Stablean> <Jerry> :) 11:23:32 <Stablean> <Mazur> That just means extra maintenance cost with no profit to show for it. 11:23:39 <Stablean> <Mazur> Just wondering. 11:27:13 <Stablean> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 11:29:27 <V453000> this maintenance getting in peoples brains already I see :( 11:30:24 <Mazur> There was a game recently, where maintenance prices were so high, I bankrupted twice. 11:31:44 <Mazur> After that, I joined ODM for a spell, I think, and had to undouble a line to save him from the same fate. 11:32:00 <Mazur> So yes, it got into my mind. 11:35:30 <V453000> which is wrong 11:35:54 <V453000> the running, purchase, or some other costs need to be reduced then 11:36:57 <Mazur> Reducing running costs means fewer trains, which only helps if you ahve trains to spare, otherwise it means reduced income, too. 11:37:56 <Mazur> After paying off the loan and adding more profitable runs, and production getting up, the line could be doubled again. 11:38:15 <V453000> how does reducing running costs reduce income? 11:38:15 <Mazur> It was just a temp measure to stave off bankrupcy. 11:38:29 <Mazur> Fewer trains per year making the run. 11:38:34 <V453000> uh? 11:38:40 <V453000> that doesnt make sense to me 11:38:52 <V453000> when your train is cheaper to run, you can have more? 11:39:22 <Mazur> Say you have 4 trains on a run, 3 are going to the drop off, or coming back, the foutrh is loading at the station. 11:40:02 <Mazur> The run takes one year to anf fro, and four trains can load every year. 11:40:17 <Mazur> Sell one off, and you lose 25% potential income. 11:40:29 <V453000> I mean changing settings 11:40:33 <Mazur> Ah,. 11:41:32 <Mazur> Yes, but I don't mess with Sylfs (or your) maps, what if he was just testing settings? 11:42:07 <Mazur> It was possible to get up and running profitably, you just had to be careful. 11:42:14 <V453000> I guess the concept of maintenance for rails isnt bad as it makes you use rails more effectively, but then train running costs are pretty much of lesser importance 11:42:29 <Mazur> Signal cost was the killer, though. 11:42:41 <V453000> some train sets stupidly raise that, yes :) 11:42:43 <V453000> japanese? 11:43:19 <Mazur> Don't remember. 11:44:53 <Mazur> WHat's a ladybug doing on my window in the middle of winter? 12:01:13 *** ODM has quit IRC 13:06:45 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 13:06:46 <Stablean> <Firestar> lo 13:27:00 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 13:43:08 <Stablean> *** Scia joined the game 13:57:00 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:57:02 *** DayDreamer has left #openttdcoop.stable 14:03:13 <Stablean> <Scia> if you need me to bridge just say 14:09:27 <planetmaker> signals also cost maintenance, if maintenance costs are enabled. 14:19:04 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:19:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 14:37:33 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (general timeout) 14:37:33 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (connection lost) 14:40:12 <Stablean> *** Scia has left the game (general timeout) 14:40:12 <Stablean> *** Scia has left the game (connection lost) 14:40:30 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 14:41:19 <Stablean> *** Scia joined the game 14:41:36 <Stablean> *** Scia has joined company #3 14:42:19 <Stablean> *** Scia has left the game (general timeout) 14:42:19 <Stablean> *** Scia has left the game (connection lost) 14:46:35 <Stablean> *** Firestar has joined spectators 14:46:47 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 15:05:11 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:05:25 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 15:14:34 <Stablean> <Firestar> fuck 15:16:48 <Stablean> <Firestar> jerry one of your trains is stuck 15:29:24 <Stablean> *** Scia joined the game 15:47:16 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:47:31 *** DayDreamer has left #openttdcoop.stable 15:48:18 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 15:48:18 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has left the game (connection lost) 16:17:51 *** Joosta has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:18:29 *** Joosta is now known as Guest1102 16:19:27 <Guest1102> !password 16:20:15 *** Guest1102 is now known as Joosta 16:20:27 <Joosta> !password 16:21:07 <Joosta> anyone here? 16:21:32 <Stablean> <Firestar> yes? 16:21:39 <Stablean> <Scia> me too 16:21:50 <Joosta> allright, good morning :) 16:22:03 <Joosta> the password command doesn't seem to work for me, where it did before.. any ideas? 16:22:06 <Stablean> <Firestar> good afternoon 16:22:06 <Stablean> <Scia> good afternoon :p 16:22:17 <Joosta> timezones... ;) 16:22:19 <Stablean> <Firestar> on stable theres no password 16:22:28 <Stablean> <Firestar> only on public server 16:22:33 <Stablean> *** Guvnor joined the game 16:22:40 <Stablean> <Guvnor> hello 16:23:04 <Joosta> yes i know, trying to join the public server, or has that been closed or something? 16:23:32 <Stablean> <Firestar> no you need the right version of ottd 16:24:37 <KenjiE20> answers here @@quickstart 16:24:39 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 16:24:47 <Joosta> I have the right version installed, all is green, I choose spectate and it prompts for the password, so i come in here and type <!password>, but it won't give me a password 16:25:07 <Stablean> <Firestar> then try to join #openttdcoop 16:25:25 <Stablean> <Firestar> and not #openttdcoop.stable 16:25:47 <Joosta> right... thanks! 16:25:51 <Stablean> <Firestar> np 16:32:46 <Stablean> *** Guvnor has left the game (leaving) 16:36:50 *** Joosta has quit IRC 16:51:59 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 17:01:09 <Guvnor> !players 17:01:12 <Stablean> Guvnor: Client 2082 (Blue) is Jerry, in company 5 (Jerry Transport) 17:01:12 <Stablean> Guvnor: Client 2154 (Green) is Scia, in company 3 (Scia Transport) 17:47:09 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 18:10:28 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (general timeout) 18:10:28 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (connection lost) 18:30:50 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 18:32:06 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:32:06 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (connection lost) 18:32:43 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 18:34:16 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 18:35:43 <Stablean> *** Jerry has left the game (general timeout) 18:35:43 <Stablean> *** Jerry has left the game (connection lost) 18:36:20 <Stablean> *** Jerry joined the game 18:42:17 <Stablean> <Firestar> cya all later 18:42:20 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 18:42:22 <Stablean> <Scia> bye 18:45:56 <Stablean> *** Kenneth B. 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Dunn has left the game (leaving) 19:15:29 <Stablean> <Jerry> 96 trains and no jams :) 19:15:47 <Stablean> <Scia> not anymore? :p 19:16:34 <Stablean> <Jerry> it was just bacaus i canged engins. 19:16:43 <Stablean> <Scia> aah 19:16:45 <Stablean> <Scia> ok 19:27:53 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech joined the game 19:29:29 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has joined company #4 19:31:42 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has joined spectators 19:39:28 <Stablean> <Scia> hmm 19:39:35 <Stablean> <Scia> too many vehicles ingame :P 19:46:20 *** Sylf has quit IRC 19:54:15 <Stablean> <Jerry> wyh this redicules amunt or road? 20:12:08 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 20:17:57 <Stablean> <Scia> because it is possible 20:18:07 <Stablean> <Firestar> what? 20:18:29 <Stablean> <Scia> Firestar asked: why this rediculous amount of road 20:18:56 <Stablean> <Firestar> no i wasnt here for 1-2 hours 20:19:10 <Stablean> <Firestar> and i didnt ask anything 20:19:12 <Stablean> <Scia> heh, meant Jerry 20:19:18 <Stablean> <Jerry> ye 20:21:28 <Stablean> *** Kejhic joined the game 20:22:40 <Stablean> <Firestar> heh im still better in performance than Scia 20:23:43 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has joined company #2 20:29:56 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 20:39:12 <Stablean> *** Jerry has left the game (general timeout) 20:39:12 <Stablean> *** Jerry has left the game (connection lost) 21:01:55 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has joined spectators 21:18:09 <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game 21:18:21 <Stablean> *** Firestar has joined company #1 21:18:58 <Stablean> <Firestar> hi big 21:23:57 <Stablean> <Firestar> hows there going Scia? 21:28:37 <Stablean> <Scia> fine 21:34:47 <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 21:35:32 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has joined company #2 21:39:58 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has joined spectators 21:41:54 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has joined company #2 21:42:47 <Stablean> <Scia> this plane will be my end :P 21:43:11 <Stablean> <Kejhic> running costs :-) 21:43:14 <Stablean> <Scia> yes 21:43:25 <Stablean> <Scia> what is up with these prices 21:43:31 <Stablean> <Scia> it is not normal 21:44:40 <Stablean> *** Joosta joined the game 21:44:44 <Stablean> <Kejhic> that is baseCosts mod 21:45:02 <Stablean> <Kejhic> aircraft running costs are 128x multiplied 21:46:28 <Stablean> <Scia> did not realize that until i bought one :P 21:47:26 <Stablean> *** Scia has joined spectators 21:47:38 <Stablean> <Scia> hmm 21:47:44 <Stablean> <Kejhic> oops 21:47:54 <Stablean> <Scia> i was dragging my plane to the dustbin 21:47:54 <Stablean> <Kejhic> did not notice, that is so bad 21:48:08 <Stablean> <Scia> half a second away from a save :) 21:48:30 <Stablean> *** Scia has started a new company (#3) 21:52:35 <Stablean> *** Joosta has left the game (leaving) 22:02:14 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6) 22:02:26 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to A.Ryan 22:02:34 <Stablean> <Kejhic> hi 22:02:36 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> hello 22:02:56 <Stablean> <Scia> hi 22:06:29 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:14:46 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:15:20 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 22:15:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi 22:15:27 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> hi 22:15:27 <Stablean> <Scia> hello 22:15:29 <Stablean> <Kejhic> hi 22:16:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did this map come with all this road? 22:16:23 <Stablean> <Scia> no 22:16:29 <Stablean> <Scia> I build it 22:16:45 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did you go bankrupt? 22:16:51 <Stablean> <Kejhic> (and bankrupted because of airplane) 22:16:55 <Stablean> <Scia> I bought a plane 22:16:58 <Stablean> <Scia> haha 22:17:01 <Stablean> <Scia> indeed :P 22:18:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you going yo finish your ring? 22:18:54 <Stablean> <Scia> guess not 22:19:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is a shame 22:19:27 <Stablean> <Scia> themaximum number of vehicles is rather low in this 22:19:29 <Stablean> <Scia> game 22:19:51 <Stablean> <Scia> otherwise, they are pretty competitive 22:19:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that can be fixed 22:20:19 <Stablean> <Scia> like now? of for the next game? 22:20:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no it can be fixed via the server 22:20:44 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.) 22:20:52 <Stablean> <Scia> that would be cool 22:20:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> can we have more RVs please? 22:21:09 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_roadveh 22:21:09 <Stablean> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '100' (min: 0, max: 5000) 22:21:11 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_roadveh 250 22:21:16 <Chris_Booth> thanks planetmaker 22:21:21 <planetmaker> you're welcome 22:21:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> now you have 250 Scia 22:21:47 <Stablean> <Scia> hey, thanks :D 22:22:02 <Stablean> <Scia> now I will finish it :) 22:26:09 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 22:39:16 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has joined spectators 22:44:53 <Mazur> Yes? 22:45:20 <Mazur> Ah, pm already fixed it. 22:47:04 <Chris_Booth> hi Mazur 22:47:24 <Stablean> <Scia> the ring is finished 22:49:25 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:53:06 <Stablean> <Scia> not again... 22:53:29 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> lol 22:53:51 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> dont buy ship either 22:53:59 <Stablean> <Scia> running costs 400 miljion pounds a year :P 22:54:14 <Stablean> <Scia> why enable them? 22:54:48 <planetmaker> to teach people to be attentive 22:54:48 <Stablean> <Scia> going bankrupt for sure 22:54:50 <Stablean> <Scia> agian! 22:54:52 <Stablean> <Scia> :P 22:54:56 <planetmaker> and to allow people to bancrupt 22:55:08 <Stablean> *** Scia has joined spectators 22:55:45 <Stablean> *** Guvnor joined the game 22:55:50 <Stablean> <Scia> yes, you don't expect that if you just see the standard ships 22:56:56 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> :( 22:58:09 <Guvnor> !quickstart 22:58:27 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Thank you for not stealing 23:01:58 <Guvnor> hello gents 23:02:10 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> hello 23:04:48 <Stablean> *** Kejhic has left the game (leaving) 23:10:04 <Stablean> <Scia> oops 23:10:27 <Stablean> <A.Ryan> :S 23:20:38 <Stablean> *** Scia has left the game (leaving) 23:23:31 <Stablean> *** Kenneth B. Dunn joined the game 23:25:02 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 23:25:03 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> Guvnor, y the bumpers? 23:25:21 <Guvnor> i didnt place them, Firestar did, i had never seen them before 23:25:36 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> what do they do? 23:26:19 <Guvnor> HAHA, i actually have no idea, he put them there and i didn't ask :P 23:26:27 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> #38 is lost 23:27:03 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> u understand? 23:27:21 <Stablean> <Guvnor> you talking to me Kenneth? 23:27:27 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> yes 23:27:33 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> ur train 38 is lost 23:27:39 <Stablean> <Guvnor> ok, looking............ 23:28:26 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> maybe skip order helps 23:29:05 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> u found it? 23:29:20 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> good 23:29:23 <Stablean> <Guvnor> wow, finally he made it out of that station 23:29:52 <Stablean> *** Talib joined the game 23:30:25 <Stablean> <Guvnor> oh wow, i see a prob, the entry signal there is a PBS? what the heck....i didn't pu that there....amazing that station is functioning 23:30:39 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> should be no prob there 23:30:45 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> valid station layout 23:31:03 <Stablean> <Guvnor> you think? i would have thought an entry signal would be better? 23:31:05 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> tight corner before it is a problem 23:31:19 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> no, pbs allows for simultaneous entry and exit 23:31:30 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> no change of crash, tho 23:31:36 <Stablean> <Guvnor> yeah, i guess it does 23:31:54 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> which station is urs? 23:32:24 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> you also made the prios? 23:32:30 <Stablean> <Guvnor> ues 23:32:41 <Stablean> <Guvnor> this is my network, firestar added some picks 23:32:53 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> lots of tight corners tho 23:33:27 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> ah, with speeds <160 kph, you can have cl3 corners 23:33:45 <Stablean> <Guvnor> yes, it is an artifact of a quick starting build with no cash...when money comes later sometimes it is very difficult to straighten things out, if not impossible 23:34:00 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> never impossible 23:34:06 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> I can help you if you want 23:34:33 <Stablean> <Guvnor> sure 23:34:51 <Stablean> *** Kenneth B. Dunn has joined company #1 23:35:20 <Guvnor> i spent hours last night added those prios 23:35:32 <Guvnor> i was in the process of doubling my ML 23:35:52 <Guvnor> i started in the north and headed south, i constructed several balanced entries 23:36:04 <Guvnor> i left off just north of my sign labled "!here" 23:36:30 <Guvnor> when i logged in this morning, i saw that Jerry bridged across my ML right at the choke point where I left off 23:36:49 <Guvnor> he left no gap whatsover, he just bridged right over tightly 23:37:04 <Guvnor> it was really a punch in the gut when I saw it 23:37:04 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> that's not very nice 23:37:30 <Guvnor> i am not kidding you, it was almost like a dream when i saw it.....i couldn't believe it 23:38:04 <Guvnor> literally i am not kidding you, if you would have asked me, hey Guv, where is the worst possible place I could bridge over your ML, that would have been the spot 23:38:38 <Guvnor> an experienced player could look north and see that I am in the process of doubling my ML and I left off right at that point 23:38:51 <Guvnor> an experienced builder would have left me a gap to expand my ML 23:39:04 <Guvnor> he has literally choked me to death at that point 23:39:16 <Guvnor> it has actually taken the wind out of my sails and now I just want a new map 23:39:39 <Guvnor> hours spent last night building those prios 23:39:48 <Stablean> *** Talib has left the game (leaving) 23:40:00 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> you're good with prios? 23:40:38 <Guvnor> well I can build them by heart 23:41:09 <Guvnor> i was looking at Jerry's network and he obviously an experienced builder 23:41:27 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> only kinda 23:41:31 <Guvnor> I am just absolutely dumbfounded that he would bridge over another player's ML in such a manner 23:41:52 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> dont think he's a very social player then 23:42:13 <Guvnor> he's like right in my kitchen 23:42:17 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> and you can see by the bridges over "!here"that he's not an experienced player: they're not synced 23:42:37 <Guvnor> i went to bed, woke up, and it's like, someone is in my kitchen eating my cereal 23:42:50 <Guvnor> and he's making coffee too 23:42:53 <Guvnor> :P 23:43:07 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> oh, annoying 23:43:42 <Guvnor> ahh good point re: bridges 23:44:35 <Guvnor> it's almost like we need a rule like "hey gents, we thought this would go without saying, but when bridging over another player's ML, spend a few seconds looking about and leave them a gap" 23:45:03 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> yeah, i know 23:45:09 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> can be real annoying 23:45:13 <Guvnor> thanks for listening to my rant :P 23:45:23 <Guvnor> i had to tell someone, i have been fuming a bit about it :P 23:45:31 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> ive heard worse 23:49:30 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> but why where the bridges a good point? 23:50:32 <Guvnor> i was responding to your comment about the unsynced bridges, i was saying that you made a good point 23:50:43 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> ah, okay 23:51:22 <Guvnor> so here's the problem I have right now with my network.... 23:52:03 <Guvnor> i am basically at capacity without adding more prios and doubling up my ML.....but the kicker is, i can no longer double my ML because another player has choked me out 23:52:24 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Just build on the other side of Jerry 23:52:34 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> or 23:52:40 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Ask him to move his crap 23:52:40 <Guvnor> as i look around, the places where i need to expand....he has bridged over with no gap..... 23:52:52 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> he was stealing from me earlier, and without me asking, he deleted his stealing staiton 23:53:03 <Guvnor> Meech, do you see how HUGE his main bridge is over my ML???? do you see how many tiles it takes up? 23:53:45 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you could move a couple of things and have plenty of room to bridge over his line 23:53:52 <Guvnor> i'd like to double my ML to the north as well....but oh....surprise....he's choked me out there as well 23:54:12 <Guvnor> *whoops, i meant to the west 23:54:19 <Guvnor> *dammit...east!!!! haha 23:54:36 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> apparently he likes building over stuff 23:54:46 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> him building rails there is a bitch, but not that bad 23:54:55 <Guvnor> you got it Meech, with no regard for other players' networks 23:54:58 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> which is 10% resonable considering most of the primaries are gone 23:55:17 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> you can scout for new ones 23:55:50 <Guvnor> all he would need to do is leave me a gap....which just means he needs longer brdiges....like seven or eight tiles long, leaving me real estate underneath for more ML 23:56:17 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> perhaps tell him, maybe he wont do it anymore 23:56:31 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> make a huge sign 23:56:41 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and then when he comes here, tell him about it 23:57:55 <Guvnor> actually just telling you guys and having you listen is helping me get it out of my system :P 23:58:22 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if it happens just once, thats one thing , but if Jerry makes a habit of it he will probably be removed permanently 23:58:46 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> note for everyone here, if youre going to build over a ML, leave 1 space on each side or more 23:59:04 <Guvnor> yes Meech 23:59:15 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but 23:59:21 <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has joined company #4 23:59:25 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> heres what i would do 23:59:25 <Guvnor> we definitely need to enact some courtesy with ML bridge overs 23:59:41 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> Need to clear that mess first, Meech 23:59:47 <Stablean> <Kenneth B. Dunn> but your idea is right 23:59:49 <Stablean> <Big_Meech> something like that