Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 13th March 2012:
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00:36:08  <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has started a new company (#1)
00:37:09  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  big meech do u thinke i have dun my trans rite
00:37:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> is there a wrong way?
00:38:10  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
00:38:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i guess the wrong way would be ship making
00:38:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and getting a password to destrpy a company
00:39:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  i have got a pas word
00:40:44  <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game
00:40:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hellp Phillip
00:41:17  <Stablean> <Phillip> help?
00:41:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> typo
00:42:07  <Stablean> <Phillip> got it, hello
00:42:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah :)
00:42:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sorry xD
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00:47:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> welcome back
00:47:12  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #3
00:47:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks
00:53:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  big meech  2 ov your trans orders ar not rite
00:54:21  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ?
00:55:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  chek your rubber tran  is not makern eney muney
00:56:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> aah, that should be better
00:56:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thanks
00:56:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill watch it
00:56:08  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  no p
00:56:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thanks
01:01:08  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  big meech when u get a lot ov muney u beter up grade your tran trake to a farster trake
01:01:22  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> my trains are limited at 55mph anyhow
01:01:37  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
01:32:39  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#4)
01:32:57  <Mazur> !rcon move 3274 255
01:32:57  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
01:33:01  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
01:34:09  <Stablean> <Player> Why do I not show as having any money?
01:34:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> because you were moved to spectators
01:34:27  <Stablean> <Player> Any way I can join in?
01:34:33  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you can when you change your name
01:34:44  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#4)
01:34:44  <Mazur> !rcon move 3274 255
01:34:44  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
01:34:47  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
01:35:16  <Stablean> <Player> Not quite that way I assume.
01:35:35  <Stablean> <Player> hmm.
01:35:39  <Stablean> *** Big_Meech has changed his/her name to RonW
01:35:39  <Stablean> <Phillip> You have to send it to server.
01:35:46  <Stablean> *** RonW has changed his/her name to Big_Meech
01:35:55  <Stablean> <Player> test
01:36:03  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to RonW
01:36:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> do what i did to change your name
01:36:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk
01:36:07  <Stablean> <RonW> there we go.
01:36:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> :D
01:36:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> now you can start a company
01:36:31  <Stablean> *** RonW has started a new company (#5)
01:36:51  <Stablean> <RonW> Thank you! I regularly play offline, just noticed the online pay today.
01:37:09  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> no problem, i only started a few months ago online
01:37:36  <Stablean> <Phillip> I started a few months also.
01:38:14  <Mazur> And we whipped them into shapes befitting this server in no time.
01:38:20  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> they do
01:39:35  <Mazur> I say whipped, but it's more like carved, so if you have any parts of you you definately do not want to do without, be warned and read the rules.
01:40:05  <Stablean> <RonW> Where do those rules appear?
01:40:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at !rules
01:40:59  <Mazur> Anyway, I was interrupted from after-dinner TV by the ruckus, back to that now.
01:41:04  <Mazur> bbl
01:41:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hb
01:41:23  <Stablean> <RonW> What is the purpose of the invisible leading engine?
01:42:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> for magic roundabouts and changing to maglev and things like that, you dont need it at the start
01:42:41  <Stablean> <RonW> Any way to have the chat appear longer?
01:50:16  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok  now i have pade backe my lone
01:50:34  <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving)
01:51:18  <Stablean> <RonW> Is it possible to bulldoze industries in this game?
01:51:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> no
01:51:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> go under, or around
01:52:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if you need help I can help you
01:52:46  <Stablean> <RonW> Well, I'll just move track to another refinery.
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01:53:43  <Stablean> *** RonW has started a new company (#4)
01:54:09  <Stablean> <RonW> I restarted, couldn't recover from 100k spent on a track to nowhere.
01:54:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  whots the proberm teckers
01:54:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> take out more loan
01:54:40  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello, not been on here before
01:54:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
01:55:16  <Stablean> <Teckers> usualy play goal servers, just having a look see what you guys do :)
01:55:31  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok
01:56:05  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  i play on this server all the time
01:56:43  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah cool :)
01:57:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> brb
01:57:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> actually, bbiab
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02:00:42  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah definatly different style of building here
02:00:53  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
02:02:11  <Stablean> <RonW> Playing with NewGRF's is a bit difficult compared to the base game.
02:03:13  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah its nice, 1.2 is very nice as well, cant wait for stable so everyone upgrades
02:04:08  <Stablean> *** Teckers has started a new company (#5)
02:05:12  <Stablean> <RonW> Just made 5000 after spending 35k on train running costs.
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02:15:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  big meech won ov tran  is stuke
02:22:13  <Stablean> *** RonW has left the game (leaving)
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02:42:41  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hello
02:42:43  <Stablean> <Sylf> llo
02:42:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
02:42:54  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lllllllllllllo
02:43:05  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello
02:43:09  <Stablean> <Sylf> lo/
02:43:59  <Stablean> <Sylf> quite mountainous, eh
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02:45:39  <Stablean> <Sylf> :o  weight multiplier + steeper hills... yikes
02:45:49  <Stablean> <Mush0> thx
02:47:06  <Mazur> Hey, Sylfide.
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02:58:06  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok i can not ade eney mor trans  now
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03:00:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok night all  be backe to  mor  have fun
03:00:26  <Stablean> *** Steven has started a new company (#6)
03:00:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> havea good one happy
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03:00:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  u to
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03:00:41  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> bb also
03:00:46  <Stablean> <Teckers> byt
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03:02:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  and dont still eney ov my stufe ok
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03:44:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> wb steven
03:45:24  <Stablean> <Steven> I just changed to open gfx
03:49:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> there is a difference
04:01:05  <Mazur> Yeah, it's better.
04:01:11  <Mazur> >:-D
04:01:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lo
04:01:18  <Mazur> hi
04:01:33  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> take a bit of loan out steven
04:01:58  <Mazur> I do not even have a company, so why would I take a load out of Steven?
04:02:06  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> loan
04:02:09  <Mazur> You're being silly, Meech.
04:02:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sounds gross xD
04:02:25  <Mazur> Sorry, _that_ was a typo.
04:02:29  <Mazur> s/load/loan/
04:02:34  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I take my loads out in the water closet xD
04:02:54  <Mazur> So do I, and only my own, thank your very muchly.
04:03:01  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Le WC
04:03:07  <Stablean> <Steven> now i don't need a loan anyways
04:03:10  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good
04:03:12  <Mazur> The crapper.
04:03:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i saw you had a bankruptcy warning
04:03:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I built my first SLH tonight Mazur
04:04:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sorta backwards, and ugly, but it works
04:07:30  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i see you made a sign steven?
04:07:40  <Stablean> <Steven> yes
04:07:58  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and what
04:08:18  <Stablean> <Steven> forgot about it
04:09:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good
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04:13:52  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lo
04:14:10  <Stablean> <Mazur> hi
04:14:33  <Stablean> <Steven> hi
04:14:40  <Stablean> <Mazur> For a proper SLH, the joins with the ML give way to the ML.
04:15:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok well I know i did it wrong
04:15:15  <Stablean> <Mazur> Not wrong, just not ideal.
04:15:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> SSHL ;)
04:15:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im sure someone will come and join and fix it
04:15:51  <Stablean> <Mazur> Someone might.
04:16:10  <Stablean> <Mazur> If someone was invited to do so.
04:16:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> youre always invited
04:16:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> anyhow, you could barge in if you wanted
04:16:25  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but
04:16:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> dixon or troy might fix it
04:17:03  <Stablean> <Mazur> *ponder*  Troy might know prio over bridge.
04:17:29  <Stablean> *** Teckers has left the game (leaving)
04:17:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> *watches
04:17:56  <Stablean> <Mazur> Can't resist.
04:17:59  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
04:18:06  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> barger!
04:18:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok so i missed the signals there then is waht youre saying
04:19:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> just missed the prio's ?
04:20:10  <Stablean> <Mazur> AFAICS.
04:20:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok well thats going in the right direction, like i said, that was my first build by myself
04:21:31  <Stablean> <Mazur> Two splits from ML, to joins to ML, double bridges on ML with presigs at split, yes, quite complete.
04:21:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good to know
04:22:05  <Stablean> <Mazur> And waiting bays.
04:22:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> took a try or two to get everything figured out
04:23:57  <Stablean> <Mazur> A hole in your ML signalling is not a good idea.
04:24:15  <Stablean> <Mazur> BUt then again, it might have been by accident.
04:24:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> where?
04:24:41  <Stablean> <Mazur> I fixed it already, on hte line between sand and grass.
04:24:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk
04:25:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> might have missed it on accident
04:25:29  <Stablean> <Mazur> You reckon?
04:25:55  <Stablean> <Mazur> Anyway, they are easy to spot when two trains are close first, and then hte second one has to wait somewhere.
04:26:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> usually only wreck-en my trains on accident ;)
04:27:45  <Stablean> <Mazur> That's what htey all say, but who has to console all the young widows, eh?  Who, I ask you?
04:28:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Jesus
04:28:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hmm, can you use the track planning for your prio's?
04:28:37  <Stablean> <Mazur> I doubt he's active anymore, I hear he died some 2000 years ago.
04:28:43  <Stablean> *** Steven has left the game (leaving)
04:28:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> for shame
04:29:19  <Stablean> <Mazur> Happens to the best of us.
04:30:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> did you see my ? about the track planning?
04:30:46  <Stablean> <Mazur> Nope.
04:31:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> can you use the track planning for prio/s?
04:31:34  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes.  They work llike normal tracks for signals.
04:31:57  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> cool
04:35:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ty for the help
04:35:49  <Stablean> <Mazur> Np.
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06:07:41  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lo
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06:07:45  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
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08:04:36  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
08:04:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lo
08:04:46  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
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08:12:50  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Is there a specific date resets occur at?
08:15:37  <Stablean> *** Hazzard has started a new company (#7)
08:15:51  <Stablean> <Niko> I dont know
08:16:41  <Stablean> <Hazzard> What is the invisible leading engine for?
08:17:21  <Stablean> <Niko> dont know that either, may be for some special trains
08:17:36  <Stablean> <Niko> I havent used it
08:18:10  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I think it must be for logic stuff
08:19:24  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Ok
08:19:30  <Stablean> <Hazzard> No idea how this train system works
08:19:49  <Stablean> <Niko> look at other peoples trains, I learnt that way
08:20:23  <Stablean> <Niko> you can click them and review schedules
08:21:18  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Lets see if this train can go choo choo
08:21:57  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Hmm
08:22:08  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I wonder if I really needed that break car
08:22:22  <Stablean> <Niko> goods trains need it
08:22:29  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Breaks?
08:22:48  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I would think all trains need it
08:22:54  <Stablean> <Niko> yes, train wont leave the depot without it
08:23:05  <Stablean> <Niko> not sure about passenger trains
08:23:31  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Wait
08:23:34  <Stablean> <Hazzard> can you repeat that
08:24:05  <Stablean> <Hazzard> So cargo trains need it?
08:24:16  <Stablean> <Niko> cargo at least yes
08:24:51  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Wow
08:24:53  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Each train has so much info
08:25:57  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Hahaha
08:25:59  <Stablean> <Hazzard> mini train
08:26:54  <Stablean> <Hazzard> What is the grf called?
08:27:08  <Stablean> <Niko> grf stands for graphics file
08:27:18  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Yeah
08:27:29  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Which GRF adds all these trains?
08:28:08  <Stablean> <Niko> cant remember that now, I think they say it on the openttdcoop page
08:35:58  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Maybe it is just the older trains that need the break cars
08:36:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> some of the trains later done need them
08:36:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> don't
08:46:57  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I don't understand how the shorter cargo cars can carry almost as much as the normal sized ones
08:47:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you have to pick and choose the right combination for your company
08:47:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> some cars load slower than others
08:47:41  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Really?
08:47:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> some cars unload slower than others
08:47:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yes
08:48:02  <Stablean> <Hazzard> But how can you tell which ones load faster/slower?
08:48:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I have goods trains that arent making any money right now that unload in 4 turns
08:48:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you're going to have to experiment
08:48:36  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Are you sure that isn't a trainlength thing?
08:48:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> positive
08:51:05  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Hmm
08:51:10  <Stablean> <Hazzard> planing track..
08:52:13  <Stablean> <Hazzard> How do they calculate the cost for the tracks
08:52:28  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Seems random
08:52:30  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what? The track planning?
08:52:38  <Stablean> <Hazzard> All
08:52:41  <Stablean> <Hazzard> All the tracks
08:52:57  <Stablean> <Hazzard> It seems to vary between 50 and 250 pounds
08:53:07  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> low speed is cheap, the more stuff, the canteary, faster tracks, cost more
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08:53:18  <Stablean> <Hazzard> But when I kept placing it in different places
08:53:22  <Stablean> <Hazzard> It changed randomly
08:53:40  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you place 1 track, itll be more than placeing another track in the same spot
08:53:54  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Just shift click around the map
08:54:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> it charges you for demolition of whatever is under it, like trees
08:54:34  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Oh
08:54:37  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I have trees off
08:54:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if you bulldoze ramdon areas you can see
08:54:54  <Stablean> <Hazzard> That makes sense
08:55:12  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Ok
08:55:14  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I gtg now
08:55:16  <Stablean> <Hazzard> See you guys later
08:55:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> have a good one
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08:55:36  <Stablean> <Niko> cu
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10:01:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lo
10:01:30  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
10:01:40  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Hey
10:10:23  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Hmm
10:10:37  <Stablean> <Hazzard> do you guys know what the x3 is at the end of the cargo capacities?
10:10:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thats 3 cars long
10:10:56  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I think
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10:11:15  <Stablean> <Hazzard> My train is 7 cars long
10:11:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> which vehcile are you lookingat?
10:11:39  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Any of them I think
10:11:45  <Stablean> <Hazzard> all of my trains have the x3
10:12:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i dont see any x3 capacities
10:12:24  <Stablean> <Niko> or weight multiplier for realism
10:12:35  <Stablean> <Hazzard> That is what it is?
10:12:49  <Stablean> <Niko> I think is that
10:12:55  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Yeah, probably
10:13:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> aaah
10:13:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yes
10:13:21  <Stablean> <Niko> so that trains  slow down on hills etc
10:13:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> weight multoplier
10:13:23  <Stablean> <Hazzard> What land generator is this?
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10:20:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i need faster trains hazzard
10:20:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> at my slow merge
10:20:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> thats #2 on the checklist
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10:21:15  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Do you think a priority would help at all?
10:21:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> nah
10:21:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> too much traffic there
10:21:24  <Mazur> A very exclusive land generator, only available to OpenttdCoop, I think.  It's called V453000.  Not been GPLed.
10:21:32  <Stablean> <Hazzard> The trans just alternate
10:22:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Im porting V453000 to apple basic :P
10:22:21  <Stablean> <Hazzard> You could do a timer with the grasshopper steam train?
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10:23:44  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Hmm
10:24:01  <Stablean> <Hazzard> Anyway
10:24:03  <Stablean> <Hazzard> I gtg now
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10:26:38  <Mazur> I don't think V453000 would still work if ported to any form of Basic.
10:26:47  <Mazur> Hm, Basic, takes me back....
10:26:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> Oh right
10:26:56  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> he needs some uh...
10:27:29  <Mazur> Special loops, V453000 is a touch too loopy for Basic.
10:28:58  <Mazur> You could try APL.
10:29:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i was trying to find this stuff i was learning about the other day
10:29:47  <Mazur> Too bad APL never really took, it was a wonderful language.
10:30:14  <Mazur> Or Algol '68, my first real language,
10:30:35  <Mazur> Everyone remembers their first.
10:33:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> * programmes in LisP
10:33:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ;)
10:35:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> int max=99;
10:36:06  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> mode newtype = [0:90 90:max0struct (
10:36:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ;)
10:47:52  <Mazur> Algol '68:
10:47:59  <Mazur> do 100.
10:48:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ;)
10:48:10  <Mazur> And it'll loop 100 times.
10:48:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> excellent
10:48:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> friends say im already loopy
10:49:03  <Mazur> No from, no variable to be initiated and named.
10:49:22  <Mazur> It was close to plain english.
10:49:29  <Mazur> In a way.,
10:49:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> for next if
10:50:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> if i go to bed; next sleep xD
10:50:51  <Mazur> if I go to bed, do sleep.
10:51:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I would
10:51:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but its 7am
10:51:24  <Mazur> I might lay awake, now, so I made coffee instead.
10:51:33  <Mazur> Almost noon here.
10:51:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i wish it was noon here
10:52:03  <Mazur> Probably end up going to bed normal again.
10:52:17  <Mazur> Or close to normal.
10:52:58  <Stablean> <Big_Meech>  ia hate not sleeping
10:53:45  <Mazur> Only when I'm in bed.
10:54:00  <Mazur> Otherwise I'm quite ok with not sleeping.
10:54:30  <Mazur> Unless I'm too tired to read and to watch TV, yet not able top sleep.
10:54:54  <Mazur> That's a real mess, can;t do anything, can;t do nothing, either.
10:56:19  <Mazur> Upgrading my system half asleep used to be fun, though, right up to the moment I screwed something up and I lost for instance my partition table.
10:56:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im tired
10:57:16  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and omg @ your partition table
10:57:36  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i used a proggy for windoze though to recover that crap, but i think its windoze only
10:58:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech>
10:58:52  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> works good but only for fat/fat32 and ntfs
10:59:54  <Mazur> Oh, I stopped doing it, besides, I use ext4 or so.
11:00:06  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good
11:00:34  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i still need to fix this rigs raid
11:00:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> with the right linux
11:00:38  <Mazur> Nowadays I make a copy before I'd upgrade old style,
11:00:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> wtg
11:01:02  <Stablean> <Big_Meech>  i need to buy another hard drive to do my fix
11:01:10  <Mazur> And instead upgrade by replacing the repo versions.
11:01:39  <Mazur> Well, disks are still getting cheaper and bigger at the same time.
11:02:22  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i need money for that, first
11:02:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but i digress
11:02:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im gonna lay down
11:02:48  <Mazur> I now have more disk capacity than the entire uviversity, my first job, badck then.
11:02:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hehe
11:03:01  <Mazur> Ok, sleep well.
11:03:08  <Mazur> First real job, that is.
11:03:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> minus hundreds of pounds of punchcards ;)
11:03:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hehe
11:03:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> bbl
11:03:27  <Mazur> Only had a few of those.
11:03:55  <Mazur> Was before I worked.
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11:45:12  <Stablean> <Mark> hello
11:45:14  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
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12:08:14  <Mazur> Hello, Mark.  Bye, Mark.
12:58:32  <Mark> :)
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13:12:57  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi all
13:13:00  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
13:14:42  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  how things going
13:14:52  <Stablean> <Niko> nicely
13:14:55  <Stablean> <Niko> good map
13:15:03  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
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13:18:52  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi dixon
13:18:59  <Stablean> <Dixon:> hi
13:19:16  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  whot to jorn me
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13:26:40  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb dIxon
13:26:51  <Stablean> <Dixon:> ty having trouble
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13:43:02  <Stablean> <Dixon:> thats a bit better
13:46:38  <Stablean> <Dixon:> hows happy then?
13:46:49  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  good  u
13:46:54  <Stablean> <Dixon:> ill
13:46:57  <Stablean> <Dixon:> man flu
13:47:05  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  whot a gen
13:47:12  <Stablean> <Dixon:> yep
13:47:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  will hope u get beter soon
13:47:28  <Stablean> <Dixon:> ty
13:47:46  <Stablean> <Dixon:> anyone want a helper ?
13:47:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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13:48:39  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   i whot to doo mor trans but i have no rome for them
13:49:37  <Stablean> <Dixon:> ok
14:15:18  <Stablean> <Niko> :D
14:15:28  <Stablean> <Dixon:> ?
14:16:12  <Stablean> <Niko> I think train was too long and another train hit it when I placed a signal
14:42:53  <Stablean> <Dixon:> those 2 stations need linking to the SL
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14:43:36  <Stablean> <Dixon:> and sunfingley valley
14:43:52  <Stablean> <Firestar> hello
14:43:58  <Stablean> <Dixon:> hey up
14:44:04  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
14:44:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
14:44:11  <Stablean> <Firestar> hows here going?=
14:44:18  <Stablean> <Dixon:> ok
14:44:24  <Stablean> <Niko> great
14:45:14  <Stablean> <Dixon:> i like your SLH happy :)
14:45:20  <Stablean> <Dixon:> SLH01
14:45:46  <Stablean> <Dixon:> nice work
14:46:00  <Stablean> <Dixon:> hehehe
14:47:02  <Stablean> <Firestar> lol how many water towers does Rondhall need?
14:47:05  <Stablean> <Niko> :D
14:47:08  <Stablean> <Dixon:> lots more
14:47:15  <Stablean> <Niko> thirsty people
14:47:21  <Stablean> <Firestar> Garham too
14:47:25  <Stablean> <Dixon:> it is the desert
14:47:53  <Stablean> <Firestar> at least nonningstone dont need water towers
14:48:03  <Stablean> <Firestar> theyre right next to the lake
14:49:09  <Stablean> <Firestar> niko you forgot to refit
14:52:43  <Stablean> <Dixon:> bb all
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14:52:52  <Stablean> <Firestar> cya
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15:10:36  <Stablean> <Dixon:> thats a harder hub to make happy
15:11:07  <Stablean> <Dixon:> its a BBH
15:11:15  <Stablean> <Dixon:> 3 MLs
15:11:43  <Stablean> <Dixon:> will need balacing
15:16:23  <Stablean> <Dixon:> dont forget you need 2 tracks each way
15:21:29  <Stablean> <Dixon:> you havent move stuff to the SL yet
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15:25:31  <Stablean> <Dixon:> i signed the SL for you
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15:59:18  <Stablean> <Dixon:> bye
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16:03:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  how things going niko
16:04:10  <Stablean> <Niko> great
16:04:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok be backe soon by
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16:04:50  <Stablean> <Niko> cu
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16:33:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
16:33:43  <Stablean> <Niko> hi
16:33:47  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello
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16:37:51  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dame won ov my copper ore mine has gon
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17:05:14  <Stablean> <Niko> going to sleep for 2 hours
17:05:20  <Stablean> <Niko> bye
17:05:26  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok by
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17:37:48  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi troy
17:37:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
17:38:16  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  how ar u troy
17:38:23  <Stablean> <Teckers> hello
17:38:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hungry, tired
17:38:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> otherwise fine
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17:39:14  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi  v
17:39:14  <Stablean> <V453000> lo
17:39:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi V
17:40:41  <Stablean> <V453000> nobody dared in the jungle again :(
17:41:00  <Stablean> <Teckers> huh?
17:41:23  <Stablean> <V453000> when I played this map I had a network at the hills from Raninghead towards Sarningville
17:41:45  <Stablean> <V453000> servicing all the primaries there ... which are dead now :)
17:41:45  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah, i built in the hills for a bit of fun
17:42:04  <Stablean> <V453000> sure but just through, nothing happening there
17:42:35  <Stablean> <Teckers> no nothing much going on in them hills... :p
17:42:57  <Stablean> <V453000> there were many industries in the start
17:43:29  <Stablean> <Teckers> yeah true
17:43:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Teckers, you should pw your company
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17:44:09  <Stablean> <Teckers> well i wasnt really bothered if it got taken over so i didnt bother
17:44:32  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt about if you bother, but about some idiot joining in and bombing half of the map
17:45:18  <Stablean> <Teckers> well ok then
17:45:37  <Stablean> <Teckers> done
17:45:40  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  troy do u whot  to jorn me
17:45:55  <Stablean> <V453000> and you never know which idiot joins. Majority of the "idiotic" people are already banned from this server but you know ... they still appear sometimes
17:45:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nah, got stuff to do
17:46:08  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tired, gonna nap first I think
17:46:10  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
17:46:21  <Stablean> <Teckers> ah ok fair enough
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18:33:27  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi exelles
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19:20:17  <Mazur> !rcon move 3584 255
19:20:17  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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19:21:07  <Stablean> <Player> oops
19:21:13  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to laughing_man
19:21:25  <Stablean> <Niko> welcome
19:21:29  <Stablean> <laughing_man> thx
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19:26:35  <Mazur> !rcon move 3587 255
19:26:35  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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19:26:53  <Mazur> !rcon move 3587 255
19:26:53  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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19:27:31  <Mazur> !rcon move 3587 255
19:27:31  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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19:28:32  <Stablean> <Niko> put !name bennos
19:28:33  <Mazur> !rcon move 3587 255
19:28:33  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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19:34:49  <Mazur> !rcon move 3595 255
19:34:49  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
19:34:53  <Stablean> Mazur: ERROR: You cannot move someone to where he/she already is!
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20:24:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok i am not dun yet
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20:40:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Meech
20:40:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> hi
20:40:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
20:42:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  big meech u got tran jame
20:42:22  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> oh well
20:44:28  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> that jam has been there for 30 years or more
20:44:39  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
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21:10:39  <Stablean> <Werner Robbentüter> hi
21:10:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
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21:15:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, Meech, if you build SLH's, its my strong advice that you already build them LLRR, even if you just have LR
21:16:05  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you don't need cabeese anymore
21:16:23  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> well, i can barely build an slh, so doing LLRR would be a feat
21:16:47  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im staring at it
21:16:53  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> nothing is going that way though
21:17:07  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> still CL2 :)
21:17:17  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yep
21:17:51  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> so when i do an LLRR slh, does the sideline need 4 lanes also, or is that the BBH ?
21:18:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you  could do a 2/2/2 SLH
21:18:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> BBH mainly has to do with balancing, mixing and less prios
21:18:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but 2/2/1 SLH is slightly easier
21:19:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you'll eventually need (after 150+ years) need LLRR SL, but by that time, you'd need LLLRRR atleast
21:19:50  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but LLRR SLH is better expandable to LLLRRR (LLRR) than LR is LLRR
21:19:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> *is to
21:20:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2/2/1 SLH has advantages that is quicker and easier built
21:20:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> quick being relative in your situation ;)
21:20:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
21:20:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 2/2/2 has more future potential
21:21:19  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but when I build 2/2/2, the SL soon joins to LR after the SLH is finished, but it can still be expanded
21:21:25  <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game
21:21:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Chris
21:21:31  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi chris
21:21:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi
21:22:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you play with happy tran sport alot not Troy McClure
21:22:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, he asks me, and he's here
21:22:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol, I don't ask and I have a job
21:22:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> would have liked to join red earlier, but didnt know pw :(
21:22:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> that's why he's so happy, is he has help xD
21:23:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its the standard one, Troy
21:23:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if it is so, I forgot
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21:23:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, I was sure I tried that earlier
21:24:08  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its my default Troy
21:24:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> so if you see problems ever, just come in
21:24:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmmkay
21:24:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will do
21:24:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I see a jam
21:25:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you want help going LL_RR Big_Meech?
21:25:49  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> im trying this demo on my own
21:26:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> well, not anymore xD
21:26:10  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, go ahead
21:26:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that fails
21:26:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> suggestion: work from outer rails to SLH
21:26:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> suggestion ignore Troy McClure and work it out yourself
21:26:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> i need more room
21:26:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;)
21:27:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no you dont
21:27:22  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> ok i am off
21:27:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> suggestion: ignore Chris and work it out on your own ;)
21:27:24  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb
21:27:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
21:27:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha
21:27:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bb thanks Troy McClure
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21:28:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait up a sec
21:28:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where's !this going?
21:28:24  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yep
21:28:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and where's !!this going?
21:29:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
21:29:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stil LR?
21:29:45  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> shit, yes
21:30:09  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
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21:30:13  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
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21:31:26  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> do the LR going into the LLRR need to be balanceD?
21:31:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they need joiners and prios
21:32:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> but it needs to jopin both right?
21:32:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> y
21:32:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, is this an attempt at SLH, or designed to be a real SLH
21:34:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because there's very little room on the SLH side to split
21:34:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for the rest it's quite okay WIP
21:35:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> making it hard for yourself now...
21:35:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ok so how do i make it easy
21:35:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just one thing, actually
21:36:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you're letting the bottom rails cross rails they don't have to do there
21:36:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you and chris and dixon make it look easy
21:36:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which is "caused" by you making a very wide turn for SLH into joining
21:38:37  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> well, I almost can build one
21:40:15  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> that is bigger than the ones you and chris and Dixon make
21:40:29  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what I usually do, is make it look smaller
21:40:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> like this:
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21:40:43  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> and move the joins at the end ?
21:40:58  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> joins are fine
21:41:03  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> like at this
21:41:38  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> intense
21:42:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this is quite nice actually
21:42:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> good
21:42:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can better have a long stretched SLH, than a "fat"SLH
21:42:52  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but my question is still: is this a real SLH?
21:42:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> chicks like it long
21:43:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -_-
21:43:11  <V453000> long as in taking more ML space?
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21:43:26  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi v
21:43:30  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> its a virtual Slh
21:43:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> lo V
21:43:32  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
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21:44:07  <Stablean> <V453000> this direction is usually the one you want to make short
21:44:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for real?
21:44:20  <Stablean> <V453000> of course
21:44:26  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's the ML side right
21:44:32  <Stablean> <V453000> sure, so it takes less of the ML
21:44:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
21:44:41  <Stablean> <V453000> you have plenty of space to the sides
21:44:49  <Stablean> <V453000> the invisible hubs are prime example of that
21:44:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> forget what I said earlier then...
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21:45:29  <Stablean> <V453000> but of course sometimes you dont have the space towards the SL
21:45:35  <Stablean> <V453000> but that is really rare case I think
21:45:53  <Stablean> <V453000> however if you have a certain gap between BBHs and you can fit 3 or 4 SLHs in there, it makes some difference
21:46:59  <Stablean> <V453000> see?
21:47:11  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where?
21:47:21  <Stablean> <V453000> s/see/understand
21:47:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, yeah
21:50:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
21:51:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> I already had a lame one working though
21:51:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's stoopid :)
21:51:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this one is WAY better ;)
21:57:57  <Stablean> <V453000> uhm
21:57:59  <Stablean> <V453000> why the PBS at every split
21:58:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> custom, i think
21:58:19  <Stablean> <V453000> very custom
21:58:23  <Stablean> <V453000> especially when in front of bridges
21:58:29  <Stablean> <V453000> 100% sure it cant be useful
21:58:47  <Stablean> <V453000> if it was on random rails, then it could if trains when jammed would make the jam just to the PBS signal
21:58:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for 1/2 tile, sometimes you need it
21:58:57  <Stablean> <V453000> but the bridge always provides a safe waiting place in such cases
21:59:07  <Stablean> <V453000> no it isnt for any 1/2 tile
21:59:09  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> true
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22:02:23  <Stablean> <V453000> omg I was counting some differences between newgrf versions and I swapped them around so I instead of nullifying the problem doubled it ...
22:02:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
22:02:41  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which problems?
22:02:48  <Stablean> <V453000> just some sprite alignments
22:02:59  <Stablean> <V453000> sprite coordinates etc
22:07:00  <Stablean> <V453000> otherwise the SLH is quite okay, I just wouldnt be lazy to make the split properly
22:07:33  <Stablean> <V453000> and perhaps the syncing X isnt really useful, the bridges could get in sync other way
22:07:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> my addition, not Meeches
22:07:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, but I like the way this looks :)
22:08:01  <Stablean> <V453000> ok
22:08:15  <Stablean> <V453000> it can be useful if you needed to lengthen prios
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22:11:27  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> haha whoa
22:12:14  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> trains are going the wrong way
22:13:05  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> bb, dinner
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22:18:33  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
22:20:30  <V453000> im still here :p
22:20:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I know, but not ingame ;)
22:20:59  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> otherwise, it would be quite nonsensical to say "bye" when you're not around to hear it ;)
22:21:25  <V453000> :D ok
22:21:41  <V453000> btw the largest engines have their template now for NUTS :D biggest madness starts
22:22:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> will we be doing a PSG with NUTS shortly then?
22:22:28  <V453000> not too sure
22:22:37  <V453000> will see how it goes
22:22:46  <V453000> if it will be super very well playable from the start, then yes
22:22:50  <V453000> which I doubt
22:22:58  <V453000> so it will be here beforehand probably
22:23:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> here, in welcome?
22:23:18  <V453000> but that is still some time ahead
22:23:22  <V453000> yes
22:24:17  <V453000> I dont really know, but it will be here from the very start, that is sure. About public server, dont know yet
22:24:32  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
22:25:20  <V453000> but I guess it should be better playable than any other newGRF so far, especially for public server purposes
22:25:25  <V453000> so probably no reason to delay
22:25:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> we'll see how it goes
22:25:54  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the idea was somewhat like to original engines, right?
22:26:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> continuous replacing...
22:26:12  <V453000> pretty much
22:26:37  <V453000> but the multiple categories make that a bit enhanced
22:27:19  <V453000> and for public server purposes it should for example be able to make combined networks from most engines, so you can have both cargo and pax engines at many different speeds
22:27:53  <V453000> and each train category should have some significant reasons why to use that one, and some reasons why not
22:27:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, V, I had an idea last, but I don't know if it's a good one
22:28:04  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah yes
22:28:10  <V453000> any ideas are welcome
22:28:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> with this version, we can use the timetable option to limit speeds
22:28:41  <V453000> yes
22:28:44  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> is there any way to make use of that and, say conditional ordes, to stack trains?
22:28:55  <V453000> stack trains?
22:29:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> err, yes
22:29:05  <V453000> ah I see what you mean
22:29:19  <V453000> nah, probably not
22:29:30  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I doubt it, since stacking needs to be done by hardware (rails) and orders are internal to trains
22:29:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> just wanted to know if you could find a way
22:29:44  <V453000> sort of, but not exactly ...
22:30:02  <V453000> the thing is, if you do it with orders, you tell all trains to do the same, which makes no difference
22:30:13  <V453000> if you do it with bridges/rails, then they make difference and sync up
22:30:14  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, I know
22:30:43  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those were my doubts too
22:30:57  <V453000> so ... I guess it isnt possible, but even if it was, making packers with speed limiters is extremely try/fail way of doing ... timing like pzg13 has much more potential I think
22:31:00  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but I thought it would be cool to stack trains, with say 10kph difference in speed
22:31:16  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, okay
22:33:15  <V453000> especially on a large scale
22:33:31  <V453000> because ... if you do it on a small scale, it is probably always easier to just add another line
22:33:47  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah
22:33:55  <V453000> but if you have 10 line station which is maxing the station spread and you cant add more, the reason comes
22:34:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> was just trying to find ways to use this new feature ;)
22:34:14  <V453000> and you dont want to make speed-limit based packer on 10 lines, trust me :D
22:34:17  <V453000> yeah sure
22:34:39  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'll happily take your word for it
22:35:12  <V453000> I dont think there is really any usage of it, just eyecandy limiting and decreasing the CL. AND one thing that is making me worried about NUTS configuration
22:36:01  <V453000> because if you have a 300kmh train, it must have like 20 000 hp to accelerate reasonably. But a 160kmh train needs only like 10k to accelerate super well.
22:36:19  <V453000> If someone makes 300kmh train and limits it to 160, I am fucked
22:36:31  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes
22:36:38  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I would do such a thing :)
22:37:04  <V453000> yeah but that just sucks for configuring newgrf
22:37:21  <V453000> because all you care about is power while speed > whatever
22:37:36  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you could do the same thing (approximately) with trainsets and nurails
22:38:10  <V453000> well yeah but nutracks at least can be set somehow to have options
22:38:14  <V453000> the orders offer anything
22:38:38  <V453000> hm
22:38:53  <V453000> looking at the current train stats, my STRONG trains always have more power and TE than the other classes anyway
22:39:05  <V453000> so reducing speed of faster classes shouldnt be as beneficial
22:39:15  <V453000> and my ICE trains cannot haul any cargo wagons anyway, so they can be strong
22:39:22  <V453000> issue solved =D
22:39:42  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I guess
22:39:48  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no need to worry about that,then
22:40:28  <V453000> yeah that will work
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22:42:07  <V453000> hm ... that could fuck with other train sets severely though
22:42:46  <V453000> most sets have fastest == strongest, and perhaps some slow/relatively strong for the speed    train available
22:43:04  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> service station
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22:43:36  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ill make a lame one
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22:48:54  <Stablean> <Speedy> Holy  =P
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22:55:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> wb
22:56:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thanks
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23:10:39  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> bb
23:10:51  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bb
23:11:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> back
23:15:46  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> yeah, rubber doesnt matter
23:18:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cant be bothered to check ;)
23:18:15  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> flatcar 50 is quite nice, using them on goods too
23:26:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> 766 t
23:28:35  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dfq
23:31:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> big meech   ar u going to ade this water supply
23:31:44  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> happy, we're nopt doing water yet
23:31:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> use the water if you need it
23:31:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
23:31:59  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  thanks
23:33:29  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> kk
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23:41:19  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> brb
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23:45:09  <Mazur> !rcon move 3706 255
23:45:09  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
23:45:11  <Stablean> Mazur: ERROR: You cannot move someone to where he/she already is!
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23:55:11  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> had to get dinner
23:55:13  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> sorry

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