Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 16th June 2012:
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00:07:52  <Stablean> <Mazur> NIcely done!
00:08:35  <Stablean> <Mazur> You missed blocking your ML, though, so not a perfect score.
00:09:05  <Stablean> <Mazur> O wait, one important line nonetheless.
00:09:19  <Stablean> <Mazur> I give it an 8!
00:09:37  <Stablean> <Mazth> huh wait what?
00:09:47  <Stablean> <Mazur> That crash.
00:09:47  <Stablean> <Barbarian> who you talking to?
00:09:49  <Stablean> <Mazth> what is it you spreak of
00:09:51  <Stablean> <Barbarian> me?
00:10:11  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I want to build a circulating wait
00:10:16  <Stablean> <Barbarian> dont know how
00:10:23  <Stablean> <Mazth> cyclotron!
00:10:30  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yes the cyclotron
00:10:48  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I work in physics. So that has a different meaning for me lol
00:10:50  <Stablean> <Mazth> well you need space for that :P
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00:12:18  <Mazth> what does it mean physics?
00:12:34  <Stablean> <Barbarian> physics
00:12:36  <Stablean> <Barbarian> engineering
00:12:42  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the real cyclotron
00:12:56  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the one that circulates particles
00:16:03  <Mazth> aaah like that
00:17:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> south central looks like hood
00:19:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> re-hi
00:19:31  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ?
00:19:35  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
00:19:38  <Stablean> <Mazth> ih-er
00:19:50  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> re-oh-hai
00:19:52  <Stablean> <Mazth> you came to finish teh eyecandyez?
00:20:18  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> mebbe
00:20:44  <Stablean> <Mazth> stuff is growing now :) one ICE is running
00:20:54  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> ICE ?
00:20:57  <Stablean> <Mazth> intercity
00:21:00  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you freezing your passengers?
00:21:22  <Stablean> <Mazth> yh! that way they stay fresh during transport
00:21:32  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> excellent
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00:25:39  <BiG_MeEcH> i faled
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00:26:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> re-hi-re-ed
00:34:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> giant toilet paper ftw
00:34:22  <Mazth> hehe yeah! :)
00:34:24  <Stablean> <Barbarian> worth a lot of money too
00:34:38  <Stablean> <Mazth> he s the TP farmer
00:34:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he is
00:34:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> guess residents poop a lot
00:37:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Barbarian: you could do a lot better using longer curves
00:37:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> would you like to see a demo ?
00:37:23  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I am just testing this setup right now
00:37:33  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah a demo would be nice
00:37:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i will demo at !demo
00:37:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> give me a sec
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00:38:07  <Stablean> <Barbarian> okay
00:39:49  <Stablean> <Mazth> master meech is back again!
00:39:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> not really xD
00:40:01  <Stablean> <Cameron> :D
00:40:16  <Stablean> <Barbarian> oh yeah I know that less curvature is higher speed
00:40:22  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I dont know how to build a cyclo
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00:40:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there is no cyclotron
00:41:02  <Stablean> <Mazth> esp not that you are using maglev with bad accel it is beneficial to have no slow curves
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00:41:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> in the regular train set that came with tt, the last maglev has high speed but is the worst for accelleration
00:41:54  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah the lev4
00:42:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yep
00:42:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the more CL3 curves you can make, the better off you will be
00:42:44  <Stablean> <Mazth> maglev still had worst accel right?
00:42:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> can we be done with the demo now ?
00:42:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i dont know about that, M
00:43:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> maglve cant carry as much as trains though,
00:43:14  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I already knew what you showed in the demo
00:43:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> so even if its faster it might not be better
00:43:42  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I was just trying to get the signaling working correctly before I get a full sized loop
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00:45:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> easier to also build the correct way first and then not have to re-d everything =-D
00:45:24  <Stablean> <Mazth> I have found that to be very true :P
00:50:14  <Stablean> <Mazth> grow towns growwwwww gogo
00:50:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you need to smear them with fertilizer
00:50:43  <Stablean> <Mazth> yh I think I need to poop on them
00:50:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I think so too
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00:57:30  <Stablean> <Mazth> wtb autofund option
00:57:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ?
00:57:53  <Stablean> <Mazth> am spam funding the towns so they grow fast :)
00:58:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> what i did was i opened a window for each with the fund option, then i stickied them
00:58:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> every year i would click add new buildings
00:58:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> some might not grow though if the=y are in the desert Mazth
00:59:03  <Stablean> <Mazth> they are not needing food and I stickied the windows indeed :)
00:59:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> okau
00:59:28  <Stablean> <Mazth> chufing is doing fine with 6 days funded but flonnville is not there yet with 29 days funded
00:59:50  <Stablean> <Mazth> and I made a decent space for them to fill :P
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01:39:53  <Stablean> <Phillip> hi
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01:40:13  <Stablean> <Mazth> ellow
01:46:17  <Stablean> <Mazth> lol timewave zero loads too fast to rly use 4 platforms :P
01:47:53  <Stablean> <Barbarian> 2 second loading
01:50:31  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I think I can afford a zeppelin now
01:51:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> do aircrafts pay a LOT more on hauls?
01:51:32  <Stablean> <Barbarian> or are they just for trolling noobs?
01:52:06  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the capacity and speed of aircraft ...
01:52:25  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah but is there a payment modifier on them?
01:52:35  <Stablean> <Barbarian> something similar to the running cost multiplier?
01:52:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no, you gotta haul a lot of pax to break even for air
01:52:48  <Stablean> <Anson> payment depends on amount, distance and time ....
01:52:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> like more than its worth usually
01:53:12  <Stablean> <Barbarian> well there could be a payment modifier
01:53:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> thats why I asked
01:53:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i wish v would make a nuts aircraft he could have a kite, ufo, paper airplane / ect
01:53:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ' tractor beam ' xD
01:58:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> green you have some bad crossings near trunington plantation
01:59:02  <Stablean> <Mazth> aircrafts are only for wealthy CEO's
01:59:52  <Stablean> <Mazth> meech we should kidnap V and have him make all the cool stuff we came up with
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02:13:25  <Stablean> <Anson> are there any rules for language here on the server ?
02:13:43  <Stablean> <Barbarian> speak french
02:13:57  <Stablean> <Anson> si vous voulez !?
02:14:07  <Stablean> <Barbarian> qui
02:14:33  <Stablean> <Barbarian> gracias
02:14:40  <Stablean> <Mazth> rules are that the language is english LO
02:14:42  <Stablean> <Mazth> :P
02:15:28  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i just asked because i saw some signs which i barely can read at first sight ... i am no native english speaker
02:15:36  <Stablean> <Phillip> But if most people on this server are French and the other people are fine with French, you can speak French.
02:15:40  <Stablean> <Phillip> lol
02:15:54  <Stablean> <Anson> like TRANQ
02:16:16  <Stablean> <Anson> or ADE SUME TRAN
02:16:22  <Stablean> <Mazth> train queue :P
02:16:24  <Stablean> <Barbarian> "add some trams"
02:16:26  <Stablean> <Mazth> add some trains
02:16:33  <Stablean> <Barbarian> or that
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02:16:43  <Stablean> <Phillip> trans is trains
02:16:47  <Stablean> <Phillip> They told me that.
02:16:47  <Stablean> <Mazth> as you can see more ppl are not native english speakers
02:16:57  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, took a momemnt and then i got it ... but would be sad if that would be the standard in the future
02:17:16  <Stablean> <Phillip> Like english only or ban.
02:17:30  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, trans has lots of different meaning too :-)
02:17:44  <Stablean> <Mazth> =P
02:17:46  <Stablean> <Barbarian> transvestite?
02:17:56  <Stablean> <Barbarian> transexual?
02:18:10  <Stablean> <Mazth> very logical in this context
02:18:25  <Stablean> <Barbarian> ade sume transexuals
02:18:39  <Stablean> <Mazth> some regulars speak 'happy' pretty well by now ;)
02:18:45  <Stablean> <Barbarian> maybe it's latin
02:20:15  <Stablean> <Mazth> well I am done for today
02:20:17  <Stablean> <Mazth> ciaoo
02:20:19  <Stablean> <Mazth> nn
02:20:29  <Stablean> <Phillip> bye
02:20:33  <Stablean> <Phillip> adios
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02:41:50  <Stablean> <Phillip> Revenge of the pax is up one version!
02:42:00  <Stablean> <Phillip> To v0.4t
02:45:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> re-hi
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03:11:26  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
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03:12:41  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi
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03:22:23  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that i am mostly done for now ... completely rebuilt a refitting station ...
03:22:45  <Stablean> <Barbarian> This game will go on for another 5 years?
03:23:18  <Mazth> will go on untill we get a new map
03:23:30  <Stablean> <Anson> i had 3 such (small, 1-3 platforms) stations before for 3 factories, now only 1 drop and one pickup for all :-)
03:23:48  <Mazth> we'll get a new map when this one is full or when we rly want a new one and ask for it
03:23:50  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I am trying to decide if I should invest mor etime
03:24:01  <Mazth> !date
03:24:01  <Stablean> Mazth: 19 May 2045
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03:24:26  <Stablean> <Anson> 2045 ... in 5 years the "big winner" will be declared
03:24:44  <Mazth> I d say we'll have another 75-100 years to go
03:24:56  <Mazth> but don t take my word for it
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03:25:12  <Stablean> <Anson> NUTS is intended until 2080 at least, and if some people want to create big networks again and lag is not too bad .....
03:25:23  <Stablean> <Phillip> It's only us now!
03:25:23  <Stablean> <Phillip> It's bad.
03:25:31  <Stablean> <Phillip> I lost connection many times.
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03:25:45  <Mazth> I would like to complete my s bahn at least
03:25:54  <Mazth> but need to sleep sometime too :P
03:26:14  <Stablean> <Anson> when nobody plays, time is frozen ... then you can start again in 2045 tomorrow :-)
03:26:28  <Stablean> <Phillip> :P
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03:26:50  <Stablean> <Anson> you also can save this game and later open it offline
03:27:16  <Stablean> <Phillip> Or host it on another server.
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03:27:25  <Stablean> <Anson> to be able to play, you need the cheat (ctrl-alt-c) to select another player
03:27:51  <Stablean> <Phillip> I know. I know.
03:28:02  <Stablean> <Phillip> I read the Openttd wiki before.
03:28:28  <Stablean> <Phillip> Click on "Manual" after you go on
03:28:48  <Stablean> <Anson> did you think that a refitting station can work smoothly, when it handles 6+ dropped cargos and 3 picked up secondaries ? :-)
03:30:10  <Stablean> <Phillip> If it needs to yes or has enough space, yeah, but no space or too much traffic, no.
03:31:44  <Stablean> <Anson> if someone wants to have a look at my attempt : sign "UNIFIED INDUSTRIES"
03:31:54  <Stablean> <Barbarian> okay
03:32:21  <Stablean> <Barbarian> so gimme a run down of what is going on here
03:33:48  <Stablean> <Anson> barb: d you mean "going on in this game", or "in my station"  :-)
03:33:58  <Stablean> <Barbarian> in your station specifically
03:34:20  <Stablean> <Barbarian> but yeah I figured it out
03:34:22  <Stablean> <Anson> simple ... trains with 6 cargos come from the right
03:34:36  <Stablean> <Anson> drop their cargo at universal drop
03:34:58  <Stablean> <Anson> then are refitted in the depots and advance to universal pickup
03:37:16  <Stablean> <Anson> most difficult is that i try to have only empty or full trains leaving that station ... for 3 different cargos at the same time
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04:17:53  <Stablean> <Phillip> Made my first kind of station known to us.
04:18:03  <Stablean> <Phillip> Top right corner.
04:18:13  <Stablean> <Phillip> Tindstone Mill
04:41:55  <Stablean> <Phillip> 3rd place!
04:42:07  <Stablean> <Barbarian> 2nd place!
04:42:15  <Stablean> <Barbarian> not bad for first time dont you think?
04:42:37  <Stablean> <Phillip> I could coop up to 1st if I wanted to.
04:42:39  <Stablean> <Phillip> Not bad.
04:42:50  <Stablean> <Phillip> I cooped up to first before.
04:43:12  <Stablean> <Phillip> I made my first hub in the top right corner.
04:43:18  <Stablean> <Anson> what did you do 2-3 years ago ? ... until then you had much more profit, and then dropped by 50% ...
04:43:32  <Stablean> <Phillip> Construction...
04:43:54  <Stablean> <Barbarian> my big network is completely offline
04:44:01  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I am rebuilding the whole island
04:44:15  <Stablean> <Phillip> It says all the years of molification on mine/destro's lines.
04:44:30  <Stablean> <Anson> the rating doesn't say anything about the real achievements ...
04:44:56  <Stablean> <Phillip> n-ice does achievements.
04:45:42  <Stablean> <Phillip> Converting 2 t-bones right next to each other to a cloverstack is easy.
04:46:00  <Stablean> <Phillip> I marked everything that I did.
04:46:38  <Stablean> <Anson> i am almost perfect for most points ... but i have 0% success for "min profit" since my network style causes a huge fluctuation of trains, between waiting in depots, doing primary service, or even doing the long distance secondaries
04:47:05  <Stablean> <Anson> thus i always need some spare trains waiting, and those trains cause the 0% for "min income" ....
04:47:13  <Stablean> <Phillip> I see.
04:47:32  <Stablean> <Phillip> I don't get profit and income.
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04:47:51  <Stablean> <Anson> and what can i do to get more stations ? only possible when i fight other companies on their islands ...
04:48:37  <Stablean> <Anson> on my island are 15 resource locations, and i have 15 stations ... but that gives only 18% rating for 15/80 stations#
04:48:55  <Stablean> <Phillip> I only have 23/80.
04:49:21  <Stablean> <Phillip> 5 more rail pieces and I have 3,000.
04:49:51  <Stablean> <Anson> and the same for number of trains ... i already get a penalty for havinbg too many trains and some of them with <=0 ncome ... but i also have only 80/120 trains and get another penalty
04:50:14  <Stablean> <Anson> thus the rating is quite fun, but doesn't say anything about the quality of the networks or achievinbg goals
04:50:58  <Stablean> <Phillip> They should add it for 1.2.2 or 1.2.3
04:51:13  <Stablean> <Phillip> Like how good your network is.
04:51:39  <Stablean> <Phillip> Mine looks good or like 70% or so.
04:52:41  <Stablean> <Phillip> Somehow destro chose a huge island for the game.
04:54:37  <Stablean> <Phillip> I used to be in 4th place like you Anson.
04:55:00  <Stablean> <Phillip> With happy's comp switching spots all the time.
04:55:07  <Stablean> <Phillip> From 4th to 5th.
04:55:56  <Mazth> comp rating is pretty useless
04:55:59  <Mazth> easy to get 1000
04:56:34  <Stablean> <Phillip> I think I got a 820 for the rating.
04:58:23  <Mazth> I don't know am not in game but with only pax u get a low score at cargo because u get only 1 of 8
04:58:34  <Mazth> helps with a lot of stationsthough
04:58:53  <Stablean> <Phillip> And s-bahns and the real ice trains.
04:59:04  <Stablean> <Phillip> That makes it work.
04:59:55  <Stablean> <Phillip> Night everyone.
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05:02:20  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, people think that i am a mind reader :-)
05:02:46  <Stablean> <Anson> just found a sign at my tracks which only reads "timer?" ... what does it mean ?
05:03:32  <Stablean> <Anson> does he want to know whether that is a timer, or wants to suggest to use a timer, or used a real world timer to get statistics about throughput ? :-)
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05:25:07  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, at 10/8 differet cargo types now :-)
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05:45:00  <Stablean> <Chop> Hi guys, could I join someone?????????????????
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07:10:30  <Stablean> <Anson> he, barb, the profit graph has a very nice turn upwards :-)
07:10:41  <Stablean> <Barbarian> haha
07:10:48  <Stablean> <Barbarian> its the paper man
07:29:48  <Stablean> <ROM5419> Come see my particle collider in Little Ronningville!
07:30:55  <Stablean> <Barbarian> your what?
07:31:09  <Stablean> <ROM5419> particle collider
07:31:23  <Stablean> <Barbarian> okay i am watching
07:31:53  <Stablean> <Barbarian> begin
07:32:27  <Stablean> <Barbarian> start your engines
07:33:37  <Stablean> <Barbarian> im not even watching it anymore
07:34:03  <Stablean> <Barbarian> way too much buildup for two crashing trains
07:34:13  <Stablean> <ROM5419> Eyecandy is God. Duh
07:36:57  <Stablean> <ROM5419> your larger hadron collider was EPIC
07:37:11  <Stablean> <Barbarian> why thank you
07:37:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yes my hadron is epic
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08:40:20  <Stablean> <Barbarian> finally, a huge network with no jams
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08:47:23  <Stablean> <Zim> hi
08:47:45  <Stablean> <ROM5419> hi, check out what i built near Sufingford XD
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08:52:59  <Stablean> <Anson> why do all people refer to town/station names in the first place ? ... am i missing smething, since i have to do several steps for a search ...
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08:53:19  <Stablean> <Anson> wouldn't it be easier to just set a sign ?
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08:53:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> re-hi
08:53:50  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, big
08:53:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> cello
08:54:18  <Stablean> <Anson> violin ? :-)
08:56:14  <BiG_MeEcH> yep
08:57:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> orange, a bigger terminus station is needed for your wood drop
08:57:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and you could probaly make a larger paper pick with roro
09:09:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello ? xD
09:09:35  <Stablean> <Barbarian> hi
09:09:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> maybe orange went to bed
09:09:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> nope, guess not
09:09:46  <Stablean> <Barbarian> sup
09:09:52  <Stablean> <Barbarian> like my network?
09:09:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> your fredhattan south sucks though
09:10:13  <Stablean> <Barbarian> now where is that?
09:10:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wood drop
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09:10:41  <Stablean> <Barbarian> oh the other island
09:10:47  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I am not even considering that one to be mine
09:11:05  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I built that without much thought
09:11:11  <Stablean> <Barbarian> look at the lower island
09:11:26  <Stablean> <Barbarian> now that's the one I am proud of
09:11:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> see !this station
09:12:17  <Stablean> <Barbarian> aah
09:12:27  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yes
09:12:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you are makeing your lines too compicated on south island
09:12:35  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I will rebuild later
09:12:58  <Stablean> <Barbarian> you mean like more capacity than what is required?
09:13:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it has that problem yes
09:13:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but yo are doing LLRR wrong also
09:13:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> LRLR is what you have now
09:13:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> see sign A and sign A
09:13:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that is where it should loop around at
09:14:28  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah but they go to different places
09:14:35  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the lines
09:14:53  <Stablean> <Barbarian> if I put them LLRR, then it would be harder to seperate them
09:15:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no, it isnt
09:15:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> probably easier than what you did
09:15:17  <Stablean> <Barbarian> well then, I like the challenge
09:15:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo udo
09:16:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> see !demo #2
09:16:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that is how you fix that problem with having things go different spots
09:17:46  <Stablean> <Barbarian> that's a merge right?
09:17:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
09:17:58  <Stablean> <Barbarian> but I dont want the merge
09:18:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you do
09:18:05  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I want them to stay seperate
09:18:10  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I dont want a single mainline
09:18:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> this is for LLRR
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09:18:26  <Stablean> <Donate> hi
09:18:26  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I want dedicated lines for each route
09:18:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> complete waste
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09:18:54  <Stablean> <Barbarian> who cares
09:19:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Me
09:19:11  <Stablean> <Barbarian> then sue me
09:19:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im a lawyer
09:19:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi donate
09:19:32  <Stablean> <Barbarian> should be very easy then
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09:19:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> bye donate
09:20:14  <Stablean> <Barbarian> he got intimidated
09:20:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he hates lawyers
09:20:32  <Stablean> <Anson> i just achieved transporting 12 types of cargo ... 11 on a single LR line, only a small part is RR :-)
09:21:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> LMAO @ Cern transport
09:21:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> haha
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09:21:24  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I dont know what he was thinking
09:21:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> im gonna hit the switch
09:21:44  <Stablean> <Barbarian> do it
09:22:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lil
09:22:34  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I expected a much bigger boom
09:22:42  <Stablean> <Barbarian> considering those locos were powered by uranium and all
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09:23:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
09:23:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wb Donate
09:23:20  <Stablean> <Donate> lol
09:23:28  <Stablean> <Donate> i have some ep now
09:23:35  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ep?
09:23:37  <Stablean> <Donate> i started my singleplayer
09:23:39  <Stablean> <Donate> exp
09:23:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> stop playing single player
09:23:59  <Stablean> <Barbarian> this game is making me feel so useless :(
09:24:14  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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09:24:16  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I've been playing this all day
09:24:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello v45000000000
09:24:21  <Stablean> <Barbarian> did nothing productive
09:24:40  <Stablean> <Donate> so am i allowed to build ?
09:24:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ottd is productive
09:24:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> why cant you build ?
09:24:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> no fingers?
09:25:05  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah if your goal is to play ottd
09:25:07  <Stablean> <Donate> no
09:25:09  <Stablean> <Barbarian> then playing ottd is productive
09:25:15  <Stablean> <Donate> i wanteed to ask for permission
09:25:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you dont need permission to build, just know the !rules
09:25:32  <Stablean> <Barbarian> permission denied
09:25:36  <Stablean> <Barbarian> you must first make a donation
09:25:38  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
09:25:38  <Stablean> <V453000> if you werent allowed to build there would be a password on the server or something similar
09:25:44  <Stablean> <Donate> oh
09:25:46  <Stablean> <V453000> oh yeah forgot about that :d
09:25:58  <Stablean> <Anson> question from some non-english speaker : what is a wagon exactly ?
09:26:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they do have paypal xD
09:26:10  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the railcar
09:26:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wagon is the crap that hauls the goods, behind the engine
09:26:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i think in england its a lorry
09:26:24  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the unpowered part of the train that carries stuff
09:26:46  <Stablean> <Anson> V must think a bit differently ?
09:26:46  <Stablean> <Barbarian> "compartments" in england I think
09:27:48  <Stablean> <V453000> why would I think differently? :d
09:28:10  <Stablean> <Anson> braimmelter says "can haul ill-minded engines or any wagons"
09:28:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> b/c you are a very different guy
09:28:19  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:28:25  <Stablean> <V453000> what is wrong with that
09:28:35  <Stablean> <V453000> ill-minded engines, or any wagon
09:28:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> some might sayou are demented
09:29:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ill minded engines are the wut, and odd, I think
09:29:11  <Stablean> <V453000> obviously by any wagon is meant within its railtype
09:29:30  <Stablean> <V453000> lol yeah ill minded engines doesnt mean any engine in nuts
09:29:52  <Stablean> <Anson> a 3rd gen universal, an error pops up : "can't move vehicle ... can attach only wagons or other ....."
09:30:07  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:30:13  <Stablean> <V453000> guess why
09:30:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> 3rd gen isnt for monorail or maglev
09:30:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you will need specific rail vehicles to haul cargo
09:30:55  <Stablean> <V453000> but I can see t hat it isnt written anywhere that each rail trains need matching wagons
09:31:01  <Stablean> <V453000> I will add these notes
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09:31:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =D
09:31:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> anson broke it for you ;)
09:31:18  <Stablean> <V453000> not really
09:31:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> okay, i broke it for you
09:31:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> * smashes
09:31:37  <Stablean> <Anson> which railtype is the brainmelter ???
09:31:40  <Stablean> <V453000> just look how many people ask why their trains dont autoreplace - because they need to autoreplace wagons too
09:31:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> brainmelter is maglev
09:31:56  <Stablean> <V453000> yes, monorail
09:32:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you should demolish taht universal depot you are working in xD
09:32:16  <Stablean> <V453000> yes :)
09:32:39  <Stablean> <Anson> i just bought a maglev universal wagon and can't attach it either
09:32:45  <Stablean> <V453000> god
09:32:53  <Stablean> <V453000> engine is? monorail
09:32:56  <Stablean> <V453000> wagon must be?
09:33:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i dont think the brainmelter can haul anything but passenger wasgons ?
09:33:08  <Stablean> <V453000> monorail! =D
09:33:14  <Stablean> <V453000> meech dont complicate it
09:33:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> okay xD
09:33:21  <Stablean> <V453000> it can of course
09:33:24  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did you redraw maximum pain ?
09:33:27  <Stablean> <Barbarian> why even bother with brainmelter?
09:33:37  <Stablean> <Barbarian> cant you just buy a normal engine like everyone else ?
09:33:39  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... now it works
09:33:40  <Stablean> <V453000> no I didnt redraw that
09:33:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> b/c brainmelter will melt your brain
09:33:51  <Stablean> <Barbarian> oh
09:33:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> okay V
09:33:53  <Stablean> <Barbarian> good point
09:34:04  <Stablean> <Anson> as soon as you know that the ill engines are mono, it is simple and easy
09:34:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> when i need my brain melted, i glitch a microwave
09:34:13  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah that isnt written there either
09:34:23  <Stablean> <Barbarian> glitch a microwave?
09:34:29  <Stablean> <V453000> but seriously using universal rail everywhere is just plain ugly
09:34:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> get it to turn on with the door open any my head inside
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09:35:02  <Stablean> <Barbarian> that could work
09:35:12  <Stablean> <Barbarian> but it would cook your brain before it melted
09:35:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> \i guess green likes buildihng ugly
09:35:34  <Stablean> <Barbarian> which green?
09:35:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i want my head to ' pop ' xD
09:35:39  <Stablean> <V453000> many people actually use universal rail
09:35:41  <Stablean> <V453000> idk why
09:35:47  <Stablean> <Anson> several people like universal rail ... the maglev mostly is only grey with a dew black lines, and reserved tracks can be seen more easily
09:36:03  <Stablean> <V453000> opengfx right
09:36:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> time to turn off universal rail xD
09:36:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we havent had nutracks in a while
09:36:22  <Stablean> <V453000> well the standard tracks arent much better with opengfx
09:36:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thatll confuse the shit ouf ot them
09:37:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> great company name
09:37:27  <Stablean> <Barbarian> Yes thank you.
09:37:38  <Stablean> <Barbarian> Paper is my business
09:38:00  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I am actually watching episodes as I play
09:38:19  <Stablean> <Anson> it would be nice when company names would be shown in the client list ...
09:38:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you could ask for a new feature
09:38:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they could be grouped by color
09:38:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> then comp name
09:38:48  <Stablean> <Barbarian> or implement it yourself
09:38:54  <Stablean> <Anson> lots of colors look similar to each other, and/or different when seen as signs, as text in the console, etc
09:38:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> might be easier to speak to a whole company
09:39:12  <Stablean> <Barbarian> you know what else could be nice?
09:39:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> when someone makes a sign
09:39:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if i shut up ?
09:39:27  <Stablean> <Barbarian> and you press a key, the game takes you to that sign automatically
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09:39:59  <Stablean> <Barbarian> lol what?
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09:42:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you should adjust your signal spacing quixxer
09:42:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> let peach show you how to do it xD
09:43:09  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> :P
09:43:15  <Stablean> <Anson> a coiple of days ago, someone told me that the bug would have been fixed now, where a PBS doesn't redirect trains to another nearby depot, but instead trains keep waiting
09:43:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that is because pbs is totally stupid
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09:44:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that that fix only applies to PBS directly next to a waypoint, where it doesn't matter whethjer the trains touches the wayopoint first or the pbs
09:44:17  <Stablean> <Big Meech> there are ways to make a train go to depot
09:44:27  <Stablean> <V453000> not sure how exactly that crap works
09:44:33  <Stablean> <V453000> but PBS is shit :)
09:44:48  <Stablean> <Anson> but i just watch trains piling up in a double depot behind some pbs which sends all trains only to one side
09:44:59  <Stablean> <V453000> with PBS your depots can easily stack trains anyway
09:45:05  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:45:09  <Stablean> <V453000> you can only solve that with pre-signals
09:45:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yeah what he said
09:45:27  <Stablean> <V453000> be it a pre-signalled depot with some priorities or such, or even flipflop which is again presignals
09:45:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did you see the 4 stations i made yesterday?
09:45:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i made 4 2, with presigs and 2 with pbs
09:45:57  <Stablean> <V453000> there is only one with PBS, the other one is useless
09:46:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it is, but yet they wanted to keep building it
09:46:17  <Stablean> <V453000> no.
09:46:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the 1 with no 2-ways
09:46:19  <Stablean> <V453000> doesnt exist
09:46:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
09:46:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it did
09:46:25  <Stablean> <V453000> no.
09:46:31  <Stablean> <V453000> just retards build that
09:46:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yes
09:46:37  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I told them not to but they didnt listen
09:46:47  <Stablean> <V453000> their problem
09:46:49  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
09:46:55  <Stablean> <V453000> but dont make it an example, that is just wrong
09:47:15  <Stablean> <Barbarian> that 2way one has something to do with penalties right?
09:47:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> most of the map is covered in that crap though
09:47:23  <Stablean> <V453000> not in this case
09:48:01  <Stablean> <V453000> if you put penalties in front of both platforms ... it obviously raises penalty of both platforms but doesnt affect anything in the end
09:48:19  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I put them only infront of the entrance
09:48:21  <Stablean> <V453000> otherwise the signal has absolutely no use
09:48:39  <Stablean> <Barbarian> so the trains will go to the platform opposite to the exit
09:49:01  <Stablean> <V453000> not sure if I understand that, looking at your stations
09:49:05  <Stablean> <V453000> you have 2way signals everywhere
09:49:07  <Stablean> <Anson> pink uses some 2-way PBS in this game ... and that is about the only real use i can think of ... but it is also very dangerous if not done properly
09:49:09  <Stablean> <Barbarian> its not in any of these stations
09:49:20  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he wants the train to roll right into the 1st platform if available, not the 2nd
09:49:27  <Stablean> <Anson> just one block signal nearby, and all trains start crasing into each other
09:49:29  <Stablean> <V453000> yes that is viable
09:49:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> b.c they are built wrong if they are doing that
09:50:17  <Stablean> <Barbarian> look at !seethis
09:50:28  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:50:30  <Stablean> <V453000> that is viable
09:50:30  <Stablean> <Anson> i just put a sign at "!2way pbs" ... that is a real nice use of it
09:50:48  <Stablean> <V453000> yes or that
09:51:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i still dont know the reason why you value 1 platform over the othe though ?
09:51:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> it doesnt matter
09:51:18  <Stablean> <V453000> in cases it does
09:51:28  <Stablean> <V453000> if you have only low traffic you want trains to take the non-crossing platform
09:51:34  <Stablean> <V453000> so they dont disturb each other on the exit
09:51:40  <Stablean> <V453000> and a new train can go in
09:51:40  <Stablean> <Anson> but it one single block is added in all that area where PBS is applied, trains immediately start entering sectors from both sides and crash
09:51:42  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they both cross though, thats the part i dont get
09:51:42  <Stablean> <V453000> minor improvement
09:51:44  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the first train enters the platform opposite to the exit
09:51:51  <Stablean> <Barbarian> so when it leaves, it wont come in the way of the next train
09:52:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the opposite is also true
09:52:13  <Stablean> <V453000> yes but with proper traffic it wont do anything anyway :)
09:52:27  <Stablean> <V453000> in small traffic it can help a tiny bit
09:52:30  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the opposite?
09:52:56  <Stablean> <Barbarian> but the train coming in first will leave first
09:53:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> by tha time you would have another train witing in the 2nd platform
09:53:32  <Stablean> <V453000> well if you put the platform-filling as a cycle, this just makes trains start at a different position of the cycle
09:53:34  <Stablean> <V453000> in the long run it does nothing
09:53:41  <Stablean> <V453000> if both platforms are used constantly
09:53:55  <Stablean> <Barbarian> this is only in the case where the first train leaves the station as the second train is entering the station
09:54:02  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
09:54:16  <Stablean> <Barbarian> so yeah, low traffic
09:54:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> im so confused, i mean, i get it, but ive never had a problem like that
09:54:28  <Stablean> <V453000> which is only when a "wave" of 2 trains comes to the station, not 3 because 3rd already starts another cycle
09:54:43  <Stablean> <V453000> sure meech, it is just a minor thing as I said
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09:55:35  <Stablean> <V453000> making it this way is more effective
09:55:41  <Stablean> <V453000> but it doesnt really matter
09:55:46  <Stablean> <Big Meech> obviously you would need a bridge
09:55:48  <Stablean> <V453000> as long as you provide enough platforms, anything works
09:55:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> where woulf the bridge go for best placement ?
09:56:04  <Stablean> <V453000> on exit lines
09:56:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> on the incoming line ?
09:56:10  <Stablean> <Barbarian> oh which way?
09:56:12  <Stablean> <Barbarian> damn didnt see it
09:56:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> okay
09:56:20  <Stablean> <V453000> entrance should always be unbridged for maximum signal amount
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09:57:08  <Stablean> <V453000> 2 is too simple
09:57:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> that example
09:57:09  <Stablean> <V453000> see 6
09:57:40  <Stablean> <V453000> fast entrance this way
09:58:03  <Stablean> <V453000> exit can be anything
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09:58:37  <Stablean> <Barbarian> interesting
09:58:47  <Stablean> <V453000> that is what I usually build lately
09:58:54  <Stablean> <V453000> but as I said
09:58:57  <Stablean> <V453000> it doesnt matter much
09:59:12  <Stablean> <Barbarian> well you can see the stations I build
09:59:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> they are simple
09:59:24  <Stablean> <V453000> this might work as well
09:59:36  <Stablean> <V453000> and it not just add 4th set of platforms
09:59:55  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I guess this is much more efficient
10:00:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wouldnt need many platforms to start though
10:00:14  <Stablean> <V453000> amount of platforms doesnt matter
10:00:24  <Stablean> <V453000> only thing that matters is whether it jams or not
10:00:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> strawberry ?
10:01:05  <Stablean> <V453000> some people build extreme cases of the "x-less" terminus stations which is usually less effective than normal terminus
10:01:08  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I think the number of platforms only matter when your production is high enough
10:01:18  <Stablean> <Barbarian> that trains are limited only by the loading time
10:01:20  <Stablean> <V453000> number of platforms doesnt ever matter
10:01:46  <Stablean> <Barbarian> like see the paper pickup
10:01:48  <Stablean> <V453000> of course it is one of the aspects a station has, but it really only matters if station does its job yes/no
10:02:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> paper pickup would be better as a roro station
10:02:41  <Stablean> <V453000> it is?
10:03:03  <Stablean> <Barbarian> he is looking at the other island maybe
10:03:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he would have mor room looping it around the back side
10:03:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> oh yeah I am
10:03:14  <Stablean> <Big Meech> xD
10:03:17  <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps put signals at the x spots
10:03:19  <Stablean> <V453000> for more speed
10:03:41  <Stablean> <V453000> so the platforms are used more efficiently
10:03:41  <Stablean> <Big Meech> also, the trains cant make that 90
10:03:43  <Stablean> <Barbarian> where it branches off into 3?
10:03:45  <Stablean> <Big Meech> at the depot
10:04:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> not sure why the depot is there ?
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10:04:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> id you put heavy signalling in though, trains will have enough room to wait in that area
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10:05:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> those giant rolls of tp are magnificent xD
10:05:11  <Stablean> <V453000> no need for PBS there
10:05:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> use regular signals
10:05:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you can control click each
10:05:49  <Stablean> <Barbarian> too much work doing that
10:05:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol, no
10:06:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> if you know the hotkey you can place signals insanely fast
10:06:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you have all signals with 1 click
10:06:25  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yeah I know the hotkeys
10:06:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> how is that too difficult ?
10:06:37  <Stablean> <Barbarian> no you said ctrl click each one
10:06:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i did
10:06:57  <Stablean> <Barbarian> why when I can remove all of them in one go
10:07:03  <Stablean> <Barbarian> and then place them all in one go?
10:07:13  <Stablean> <V453000> that signal cant be there
10:07:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol, you already had them palced
10:07:19  <Stablean> <V453000> this one neither
10:07:26  <Stablean> <V453000> 1x Train length
10:07:28  <Stablean> <V453000> nothing else
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10:07:51  <Stablean> <Big Meech> now you see why that signal cant be there b/c of the jam
10:08:25  <Stablean> <Barbarian> yep
10:08:56  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I need to leave this game now lol
10:09:04  <Stablean> <Barbarian> cant get addicted to this now
10:09:10  <Stablean> <Big Meech> too late
10:09:12  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you are addicted
10:09:23  <Stablean> <Barbarian> that's what I am afraid of
10:09:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> too late
10:09:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> bbl
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10:09:56  <Vinnie_nl> !date
10:09:57  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl:  5 Dec 2074
10:12:25  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I have 717 million pounds
10:12:30  <Stablean> <Barbarian> seems like a lot
10:12:46  <Stablean> <Barbarian> but then I think about how much money bill gates has
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10:13:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Hi
10:13:12  <Stablean> <Barbarian> the guy is worth 50 billion
10:13:30  <Stablean> <Barbarian> hi Vinnie
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10:20:29  <Stablean> <Anson> refitters rebuilt ... cost 100 mil (to partially TF a lake :-( when the small variant with PBS doesn't work)
10:20:59  <Stablean> <Barbarian> money no object
10:21:34  <Stablean> <Barbarian> watch as I transport 150 tons of paper
10:21:36  <Stablean> <Barbarian> BY AIR
10:22:52  <Stablean> <Barbarian> if this game exists tomorrow
10:23:02  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I will build a super transcontinental paper route
10:23:08  <Stablean> <Barbarian> with over 500 trains
10:23:44  <Stablean> <Barbarian> transcontinental TF bridges are against the rules?
10:24:43  <Stablean> <Anson> last year, someone had tried to just flatten half the world when he had enough money ... THAT was against the rules :-)
10:25:45  <Stablean> <V453000> idk, using waypoints I havent had such problem in a while
10:25:45  <Stablean> <Barbarian> I think I have enough money now to make clever TFs to span all the way to the top island
10:26:00  <Stablean> <V453000> but this works too
10:26:02  <Stablean> <Anson> a nice sequemce of bridged from one small island to the next might even look nice ... in contrast to a massive 2 tiles wide stripe across the whole world
10:26:06  <Stablean> <V453000> +-
10:26:22  <Stablean> <Barbarian> well yeah
10:26:25  <Stablean> <Barbarian> thats all I have money for
10:26:35  <Stablean> <Barbarian> not the crazy straightline bridge
10:27:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i had tried setting up something else with waypoints ... but besides editing so many command lists, space would have been a bit tight too
10:28:44  <Stablean> <V453000> yes indeed
10:28:55  <Stablean> <V453000> editing all orders is the last possibility
10:29:57  <Stablean> <Anson> all my trains have shared orders, but 12+ different routes, and all of them are conditionals for refitting (some refitting twice) ...
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10:31:03  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, what do you think of my "universal pickup" station ... it offers three different kinds of cargo for pickup ... and it works :-)
10:31:48  <Stablean> <Barbarian> good night guys
10:31:54  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> bb
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10:32:22  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks for reminding me of time ... need to go shopping before they close for the weekend :-) .... g'N8
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10:58:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello Syl
10:58:06  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hello
10:58:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and Dr. Supremacy
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11:05:57  <Stablean> <Big Meech> holy crap, Hi mazur =D
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11:06:06  <Stablean> <Mazur> Hi, Beech.
11:06:29  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm, donate came back ?
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11:06:56  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes and no.
11:07:06  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
11:07:13  <Stablean> <Big Meech> good answer
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11:07:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did he get a ban ? xD
11:07:50  <Stablean> <Mazur> He came back in a couple of times, but confessed he was not allowed to play because of schoolwork.
11:07:56  <Stablean> <Mazur> No.
11:08:02  <Stablean> <Big Meech> aaah, ottd confession
11:08:08  <Stablean> <Mazur> Not by me, anyway.
11:08:08  <Stablean> <Big Meech> we should have a room for that
11:08:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I confess that I build terribly, 99% of the time
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11:12:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello Happy Transportation
11:12:45  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi big meech
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11:28:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  wb  big meech
11:29:01  <Stablean> <Big Meech> thanks
11:30:27  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  i thnike its time for a noo map
11:30:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ask for a new map then ;)
12:11:49  <Stablean> <Anson> back ... got something to eat for the weekend now ....
12:11:55  <Stablean> <Anson> ... and cigarettes :-)
12:12:11  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  nice
12:12:53  <Stablean> <Anson> i found this map quite interesting ... but nobody used the map ... it was rather a lot of solo games on the same map
12:13:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
12:13:49  <Stablean> <Anson> would have been nice if all people together would have built a network from extreme north to extreme south, including bridges on new small islands ("pillars"), etc
12:14:11  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
12:15:07  <Stablean> <Anson> if you don't know what to do, you can check my station "universal Pickup" :-)
12:15:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  nice
12:15:52  <Stablean> <Anson> it was an experiment to put three different factories on a single drop/pickup pair ofstations
12:16:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep i see
12:16:47  <Stablean> <Anson> same again at Print-Steel station ... paper>goods and iron>steel
12:17:01  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
12:17:43  <Stablean> <Anson> and something similar : a single station without waypoints for livestock and maize ... at Froston Valley
12:18:06  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep i see
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12:20:00  <Stablean> <Anson> total of 12 cargos on a single LR line (or RR between pickup and towndrop
12:20:11  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  nice
12:21:45  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, your network has some strange tracks ...
12:22:03  <Stablean> <Anson> look at your train #44
12:23:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep i no
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12:26:21  <Stablean> <Anson> you use lots of 2way PBS ???
12:27:05  <Stablean> <Anson> no .... hehe, i needed to wear my other glasses :-)
12:27:51  <Stablean> <Anson> i have one for monitor/TV, and some stronger for reading ... and when looking close at details, i need the closeup glasses
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12:29:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   i  will doo beter on the nxs game
12:30:30  <Stablean> <Anson> lots of things come from doing them over and over ...
12:30:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
12:31:07  <Stablean> <Anson> i notice quite often that i do the same mistakes, but less often, or only for trying some different approach
12:31:23  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
12:32:12  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want, here are some hints .... next to !hap station
12:32:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
12:36:23  <Stablean> <Anson> seen the four hints ?
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12:47:37  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi v
12:49:31  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, when you have seen my suggestion, i can delete the tracks to make space for your own ....
12:49:51  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
12:50:01  <Stablean> <Anson> hi v
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12:50:29  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  i see it amson
12:50:51  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : it is after 2080 already, and today i have no lag, even with maximized window and not zoomed
12:51:09  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
12:52:56  <Stablean> <V453000> not too many trains I think
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12:56:28  <Stablean> <Anson> what determines the load/unload times ?
12:56:58  <Stablean> <Anson> is it only the track type, or each engine and each wagon has its own factors which are considered too ?
12:58:16  <Stablean> <V453000> wagon defined
12:58:38  <Stablean> <V453000> well, to put it exactly: everything that has cargo capacity also has some loading speed
12:59:13  <Stablean> <V453000> but in nuts, just wagons matter, trains which carry passengers/mail always  load just as quickly as the wagons do
12:59:27  <Stablean> <Anson> is it possible to see those times ? or are they hidden in the source only and we have to test it ... ?
12:59:51  <Stablean> <V453000> cant really see it unless I would write it in the purchase menu
12:59:57  <Stablean> <V453000> could do that
13:00:19  <Stablean> <Anson> for people who are new to NUTS or any other set, it would be nice
13:00:35  <Stablean> <V453000> well most other sets dont really have wagons to choose usually
13:00:41  <Stablean> <Anson> or maybe only a hint in the readme :-)
13:00:44  <Stablean> <V453000> but yeah I could add such a note
13:01:50  <Stablean> <Anson> when i looked at the times, i sometimes saw 100, 66, 33, 0 ... and another time it was 100, 60, 20, 0
13:02:01  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that both were maglev ....
13:02:15  <Stablean> <V453000> now that is strange :)
13:02:53  <Stablean> <Anson> lots of strange effects ... also with depots and the times for entering and leaving ....
13:03:00  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
13:03:12  <Stablean> <V453000> ah that
13:10:31  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, look at !depot test :-)
13:12:53  <Stablean> <V453000> hm
13:13:13  <Stablean> <V453000> || diagonal longer than = diagonal?
13:13:43  <Stablean> <Anson> one has the diagonal at entry, the other at exit ... total length should be same
13:14:21  <Stablean> <Anson> i did another test ... let me set it up ...
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13:14:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  be backe in 5 mi nts
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13:21:43  <Stablean> <Anson> next to !depot test, i set up part of a loop which i used to test ....
13:22:27  <Stablean> <Anson> total test setup was two parallel oval tracks with all the different combinations for entry and exit
13:23:25  <Stablean> <Anson> very strange effect, that entering with CL1 and exiting with CL1 takes exactly as long as enter and exit with big CL on diagonals
13:24:12  <Stablean> <Anson> but enter CL1 and exit CL5 and enter CL5 and exit CL1 resulted in faster and slower round trip times
13:24:38  <Stablean> <Anson> difference was around 3 tiles with a train that had max speed 400
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14:21:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Hi
14:21:49  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
14:21:59  <Stablean> <Anson> most people seem o be AFk now
14:22:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah, doesnt matter
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14:25:18  <Stablean> <V453000> want a new map?
14:25:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> not for me, just killing time till PSG unpauses
14:27:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Anson you made some wierd stuff to test
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14:32:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> V i think i see a graphic bug in your trainset
14:34:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Maglev: the Slugg add couple of wagons. When you refit to diamonds the wagon graphics are offset compared to the engine
14:34:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> same for mail
14:36:36  <Stablean> <V453000> nice
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14:37:30  <Stablean> <V453000> oh wow
14:38:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ?
14:38:29  <Stablean> <V453000> something was very wrong :)
14:38:32  <Stablean> <V453000> fixed, thanks
14:38:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> np
14:39:00  <Stablean> <V453000> trying to code the colourful local trains now
14:39:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i saw something like that on the tt forums
14:39:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you posted a link
14:39:41  <Stablean> <V453000> ah no that was something different
14:39:51  <Stablean> <V453000> that was redrawing of steamers
14:40:06  <Stablean> <V453000> and just showing it in various colours as each company colour behaves differently
14:40:32  <Stablean> <V453000> by the local train colours I mean the refittability to colours
14:40:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> tracks filled with rainbows :P
14:41:00  <Stablean> <V453000> \o/
14:41:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> or nyan cats
14:41:18  <Stablean> <V453000> which nyan cats
14:41:53  <Vinnie_nl>
14:41:54  <Webster> Title: Nyan Cat [original] - YouTube (at
14:42:50  <Stablean> <V453000> was just pointing out that it isnt in nuts :p
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14:48:06  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> HI HI
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14:59:24  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
14:59:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hello
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15:49:53  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
15:49:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
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16:09:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi cameron
16:10:05  <Stablean> <Cameron> hi
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16:11:37  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi mazth
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16:11:55  <Stablean> <Mazth> hi
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16:14:25  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi jim
16:15:23  <Stablean> <Mazth> =( too bad I don t have the time to pla, things have grow nicely
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16:19:35  <Stablean> <Mazth> well byebye
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16:22:21  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi mazur
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16:39:41  <Mazur> Hi.
16:39:42  <Mazur> Bye.
16:40:15  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  bb
16:40:16  <V453000> :d
16:40:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi v
16:42:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  v    can  we have a noo map
16:49:15  <V453000> I guess
16:49:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
16:50:43  <V453000> how should it look like
16:51:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  not to much water
16:52:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  and    mor oil wells
16:54:15  <V453000> what train set
16:55:13  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   the sume  trans  that we got on this game
16:55:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ov u can pike won
16:55:51  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  i dont minde
17:02:01  <V453000> !getsave
17:02:02  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
17:02:23  <V453000> alright I am ready
17:02:29  <V453000> !playercount
17:02:30  <Stablean> V453000: Number of players: 4 (4 spectators)
17:02:32  <V453000> !players
17:02:35  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5321 is Anson, a spectator
17:02:35  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5369 is happy tran sport, a spectator
17:02:39  <V453000> anyone against a new map?
17:02:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok lest go
17:02:53  <V453000> !rcon load 2
17:03:11  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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17:03:17  <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game
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17:03:24  <V453000> !getsave
17:03:26  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
17:03:28  <V453000> !rcon load 2
17:03:31  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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17:03:43  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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17:04:00  <V453000> !auto
17:04:00  <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
17:04:01  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
17:04:05  <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
17:05:25  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has started a new company (#2)
17:05:27  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
17:07:29  <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game
17:07:36  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi happy!
17:07:40  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
17:07:49  <Stablean> <Phillip> Want me to join?
17:08:01  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#1)
17:08:11  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
17:08:17  <Mazur> !rcon move 5404 255
17:08:17  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
17:08:23  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
17:08:31  <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #2
17:08:36  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#3)
17:08:47  <Mazur> !rcon move 5404 255
17:08:47  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
17:08:51  <Stablean> Mazur: client_name 5404 Clément
17:08:51  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has changed his/her name to Clément
17:08:53  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Clément has joined spectators
17:10:04  <Stablean> *** Clément has left the game (leaving)
17:12:26  <Stablean> <Phillip> yeah
17:14:00  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
17:14:06  <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (general timeout)
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17:16:12  <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (connection lost)
17:19:06  <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game
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17:19:41  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi
17:19:42  <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game
17:19:46  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Firestar.
17:19:57  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   hi
17:19:58  <Stablean> <Firestar> how you doin?
17:20:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  good thank
17:20:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   how ar u
17:20:32  <Stablean> <Phillip> Good but I keep on losing connection since I'm at another house.
17:20:34  <Stablean> <Firestar> pretty much fine
17:21:17  <Stablean> <Firestar> well thats not so good
17:21:25  <Stablean> *** Firestar has joined company #2
17:21:35  <Stablean> <Phillip> I lost connection like 3 times right now.
17:23:42  <Stablean> <Firestar> well the edwardian would have been enough for now too
17:26:36  <V453000> !date
17:26:36  <Stablean> V453000: 12 Jun 1921
17:34:10  <Stablean> <Firestar> its €20k cheaper
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17:46:36  <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game
17:46:41  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Anson.
17:46:47  <Stablean> <Firestar> Hi anson
17:46:57  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
17:47:00  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
17:50:23  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... last game with those distant islands, we had bridge length 6 only ... and now we have 2048 :-)
17:51:47  <V453000> USE IT :d
17:51:57  <Stablean> <Firestar> what?
17:52:07  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ?
17:53:29  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, first doing some TF at the south and north end of the map (to max height), and then build a bridge of length 1000 across the whole world :-)
17:54:04  <Stablean> <Phillip> That will cost like a million +
17:54:36  <Stablean> <Firestar> gheez
17:54:45  <Stablean> *** destro has started a new company (#1)
17:54:48  <Stablean> *** destro joined the game
17:54:51  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi destro
17:54:54  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi destro.
17:55:01  <Stablean> <destro> hiya
18:01:03  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#3)
18:03:23  <Stablean> <Anson> who said "bridge across map would cost like a million+" ? .... a tunnel for 100 tiles is 3 million $, 125 tiles is 4.5 mil .... probably with a little TF involved
18:04:07  <V453000> if the bridge is on water it automatically counts in the required tf of 1 or 2 water tiles
18:04:46  <Stablean> <Phillip> That was me who said it.
18:05:42  <Stablean> *** Vinnie joined the game
18:05:46  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
18:05:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Hi ppl
18:05:48  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hello Vinnie.
18:05:54  <Stablean> <Anson> tunnel 60 tiles without water = 1 mil
18:05:55  <Stablean> <destro> hi
18:06:16  <Stablean> <Phillip> I was only guessing Anson.
18:06:27  <Stablean> <Phillip> About the 1000 tile bridge across the map.
18:06:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wow teamwork company
18:06:37  <Stablean> <Phillip> Yes Vinnie.
18:07:04  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yes u can jorn vinnie
18:07:59  <Stablean> <Phillip> I'll be back.
18:08:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no thank you, not this game
18:08:11  <Stablean> *** Vinnie has started a new company (#4)
18:08:13  <Stablean> *** Hamurger Lloyd has started a new company (#5)
18:08:15  <Stablean> *** Hamurger Lloyd joined the game
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18:10:15  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi Vinnie
18:10:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
18:10:32  <Stablean> <Firestar> so howre things?
18:10:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> good, and with you?
18:10:49  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators
18:10:51  <Stablean> <Firestar> pretty much fine
18:11:01  <Stablean> <Firestar> my dinners almost ready too
18:11:42  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#6)
18:11:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Welcome
18:12:07  <Mazur> !rcon move 5447 255
18:12:07  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
18:12:09  <Stablean> <Player> hm
18:12:11  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
18:12:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> try ~
18:12:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> type nam NiT in the black box
18:12:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> name
18:12:32  <Stablean> <Player> name NiT
18:12:36  <V453000>  ! command works too
18:12:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> let me help you
18:12:42  <Stablean> <Firestar> mazur: he somehow cant change his nick
18:12:48  <Stablean> <Player> yeah :S
18:12:58  <Vinnie_nl> !rcon clients
18:12:58  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client #1  name: 'Stablean'  company: 255  IP: server
18:12:58  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client #5423  name: 'Phillip'  company: 2  IP:
18:12:58  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client #5431  name: 'Firestar'  company: 2  IP:
18:12:58  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client #5400  name: 'happy tran sport'  company: 255  IP:
18:12:58  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: Client #5434  name: 'Anson'  company: 3  IP:
18:12:59  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: you have 3 more messages
18:13:12  <Stablean> <Player> hm
18:13:14  <V453000> either ! more
18:13:17  <V453000> !more
18:13:17  <Stablean> V453000: you have no more messages
18:13:21  <V453000> or !players
18:13:21  <V453000> !players
18:13:24  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5423 (Dark Blue) is Phillip, in company 2 (happy tran sport Transport)
18:13:24  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5431 (Dark Blue) is Firestar, in company 2 (happy tran sport Transport)
18:13:24  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5400 is happy tran sport, a spectator
18:13:24  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5434 (Red) is Anson, in company 3 (Anson Transport)
18:13:24  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5438 (Pink) is destro, in company 1 (destro Transport)
18:13:25  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5442 (Green) is Vinnie, in company 4 (Vinnie Transport)
18:13:25  <Stablean> V453000: Client 5447 is Player, a spectator
18:13:27  <Stablean> <Anson> don't forget the "!" ... and i think you can only select one word as name
18:13:44  <Stablean> <Player> I have the "!" and have only one word
18:13:46  <Stablean> <Anson> to have names with spaces, it has to be set in the main screen of ottd
18:13:52  <Vinnie_nl> !rcon name 5447 NiTreXxX
18:13:52  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: players
18:13:52  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: server_info
18:13:53  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: clients
18:13:53  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: echo doneclientcount
18:13:53  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: #:1(Pink) Company Name: 'destro Transport'  Year Founded: 1923  Money: 17923  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
18:13:53  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: you have 20 more messages
18:13:54  <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game
18:14:02  <Stablean> <Player> hm
18:14:04  <Stablean> <V453000> interesting
18:14:07  <Stablean> <V453000> try different name
18:14:15  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Paranoid
18:14:17  <Stablean> <Paranoid> -.-
18:14:17  <Stablean> <Paranoid> xD
18:14:19  <Stablean> <Paranoid> now it works
18:14:22  <Stablean> *** Paranoid has started a new company (#5)
18:14:28  <Stablean> *** V453000 has changed his/her name to mememe
18:14:30  <Stablean> <mememe> interesting
18:14:36  <Stablean> *** mememe has changed his/her name to V453000
18:14:42  <Stablean> *** Firestar has changed his/her name to MrShadow1617
18:14:52  <Stablean> *** MrShadow1617 has changed his/her name to Firestar
18:17:01  <Stablean> <Anson> will you build an oil network across the whole map ?
18:17:08  <Stablean> <Anson> need help ?
18:18:42  <Stablean> <Paranoid> I cant send my horses , it says : the whicecly cannot reach this station
18:19:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> needs to be a station on the road
18:19:06  <Stablean> <Paranoid> it is
18:19:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ro-ro kind
18:19:08  <Stablean> <Firestar> drivethorugh station
18:19:55  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ok thanks
18:20:01  <Stablean> <Firestar> np
18:20:15  <Stablean> <Anson> only short vans can use the truck stations ... larger cars often need to use the other stations which are built on roads
18:20:41  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach thanks (:
18:21:27  <Stablean> <Firestar> normal buses can use normal station like the ones you built but articulated buses need drivethrough stations :P
18:21:54  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yes
18:24:01  <Stablean> <Firestar> dinner timr
18:24:04  <Stablean> <Firestar> *time
18:24:18  <Stablean> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving)
18:31:49  <Stablean> *** solo````````` joined the game
18:31:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
18:32:02  <Stablean> <solo`````````> yow
18:32:08  <Stablean> *** solo````````` has changed his/her name to solo
18:32:16  <Stablean> *** Hamurger Lloyd has started a new company (#6)
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18:32:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 60k for a train is so expencive
18:34:33  <Stablean> <Hamurger Lloyd> no ships ??? I  thought Britannia rules the waves
18:34:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> we don't like ships on this server
18:35:21  <Stablean> *** Hamurger Lloyd has left the game (leaving)
18:35:53  <Stablean> *** solo has started a new company (#7)
18:36:21  <Stablean> <V453000> Vinnie is a semaphore? :p
18:36:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> why?
18:37:02  <Stablean> <V453000> changing colours
18:37:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> looking for a colour that suits my company name
18:38:44  <Stablean> <V453000> since when is green representing evil :d
18:38:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> red is taken grey looks stupid
18:39:06  <Stablean> <V453000> grey is great
18:40:02  <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving)
18:40:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wow
18:40:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> solo is moving in
18:40:56  <Vinnie_nl> i guess grey can be done:,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=308f6f39467ff984&biw=1436&bih=802
18:40:57  <Webster> Title: Google (at
18:40:57  <Stablean> <solo> :)
18:43:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thats just evil solo
18:43:27  <Stablean> <solo> wha?:)
18:43:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sending trains like that
18:43:51  <Stablean> <solo> using brains ;)
18:44:46  <Stablean> *** Firestar joined the game
18:46:14  <Stablean> <V453000> lol blue going for the distance
18:48:05  <Stablean> <Paranoid> how to work with pipelines ?
18:48:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> there just eyecandy
18:48:54  <Stablean> <Paranoid> but my train cannot drive in
18:50:06  <Stablean> <V453000> pipelines?
18:50:21  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :d
18:50:27  <Stablean> <V453000> those arent for trains to drive on
18:50:33  <Stablean> <Paranoid> oh
18:50:35  <Stablean> <V453000> just for the look
18:50:43  <Stablean> <Paranoid> fail :D
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18:50:51  <Stablean> <V453000> also please try to use signals
18:51:01  <Stablean> <V453000> see how for example grey does it
18:51:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no free looking
18:52:49  <Stablean> <Paranoid> they work automatic ?
18:53:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> signals do
18:56:27  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #2
18:56:35  <Stablean> <Firestar> wb
19:03:02  <Stablean> *** Paranoid has left the game (leaving)
19:07:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   i wel never    blame u  for  that
19:08:22  <Stablean> <V453000> im always innocent.
19:08:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is that so?
19:10:02  <Stablean> <V453000> yes!
19:10:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then i must be the guilty one
19:19:10  <Stablean> <Anson> what am i doing wrong at !stationprob ?
19:19:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sign isnt there
19:19:43  <Stablean> <Anson> now it is
19:19:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> make the other side two-way signals
19:20:01  <Stablean> <Anson> why does the train stop at the PBS entry to the station ?
19:20:12  <Stablean> <V453000> cant be 1way
19:20:16  <Stablean> <V453000> PBS never goes into 1way
19:20:24  <Stablean> <V453000> unless it is PBS 1way (retarded behaviour)
19:20:30  <Stablean> <Anson> i noticed that those signals blocjk the train from entering ... but WHY ?
19:20:41  <Stablean> <V453000> just cause PBS never goes into 1way :)
19:21:28  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... that is the PBS problem, why always an alternate route is added to stations, reversers, etc
19:25:08  <Stablean> <V453000> that is completely different reason
19:25:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> PBS backfires, muhahaha
19:25:40  <Stablean> <V453000> also I dont understand why do you have these 1way signals there
19:25:43  <Stablean> <Anson> no ... i just fixed the problem at !stationprob with exactly that added piece of rail
19:25:53  <Stablean> <Anson> see "<-- solution"
19:26:03  <Stablean> <V453000> yes but everywhere else it is a completely different reason because of 2way eol behaviour
19:26:06  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
19:26:14  <Stablean> <V453000> but why do you have it built like this
19:26:41  <Stablean> <V453000> you could just make them PBS I believe
19:26:43  <Stablean> <Anson> they are block signals ... to separate the station from the rails on the other side ... still under construction
19:27:19  <Stablean> *** destro has left the game (leaving)
19:27:31  <Stablean> <Anson> it will be a hub later ... 7TL from north, and to its side (planned) a 4TL station where my current trains will transfer
19:27:50  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
19:27:56  <Stablean> <V453000> but why not make them PBS
19:27:58  <Stablean> <V453000> the 1way signals
19:29:17  <Stablean> <V453000> or if you even do that kind of entrance, you would probably want a standard 2way PBS signalling for 2way station
19:31:07  <Stablean> <Anson> the big one is only planned and used until a separate platform is built ... because of costs for a new company
19:31:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh i am blind
19:42:46  <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators
19:42:48  <Stablean> *** Player #1 has changed his/her name to Paranoid
19:42:52  <Stablean> <Firestar> wb
19:43:06  <Stablean> *** Paranoid has joined company #5
19:43:11  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ty
19:46:13  <Stablean> <V453000> wow nuts will probably have to have 2 pax wagons - ice and local
19:46:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> local has more seats?
19:46:31  <Stablean> <V453000> at least for rail
19:46:41  <Stablean> <V453000> well that it does now without having 2
19:46:49  <Stablean> <V453000> but the colouring will probably require a separate wagons
19:47:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is it hard to refit a colour?
19:47:22  <Stablean> <V453000> what do you mean
19:47:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the coding and drawing
19:47:42  <Stablean> <V453000> drawing is rather simple, coding is a bit weird/complicated to me
19:48:05  <Stablean> <V453000> but the thing is, if I make the railpax wagon able to refit to colours, then it is able to refit to colours with whatever vehicle attached
19:48:11  <Stablean> <V453000> not just for local
19:48:17  <Stablean> <solo> can somebody tell me why i am able to construct maglev?
19:48:36  <Stablean> <solo> in 1931 :)
19:48:38  <Stablean> <V453000> because you have vehicle available for it?
19:48:44  <Stablean> <Anson> an alternate universal rail grf ?
19:48:44  <Stablean> <solo> i do?
19:48:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> invisible engine
19:49:42  <Stablean> <solo> hmmzx
19:49:46  <Stablean> <solo> invisible engine :)
19:51:09  <Stablean> <solo> useless feature
19:51:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> for now, not later
19:51:22  <Stablean> <V453000> that you dont have a clue how to use it doesnt mean it is useless
19:51:26  <Stablean> <Anson> ah yes ... a grf called "invisible leading engine" ... and how is it used ? ... there is no readme in the grf options
19:51:36  <Stablean> <solo> then tell me how its used
19:51:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> eyecandy
19:51:53  <Stablean> <solo> explain how it is eye candy
19:52:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> make a marshall yard with only wagons on it
19:52:08  <Stablean> <V453000> probably the best use is that you can build a train with 1 normal engine and with 1 invisible engine, and later you can autoreplace to 2 engines automatically
19:52:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i read about a weak engine, invisible, but able to pill a few wagons slowly on a dead end for show :-)
19:52:43  <Stablean> <V453000> well that is also an usage but ..
19:52:46  <Stablean> <solo> i still dont get it
19:52:56  <Stablean> <solo> i dont use maglev usually either so that must be it
19:53:03  <Stablean> <V453000> ignore maglev
19:53:09  <Stablean> <solo> the replace sounds alright though
19:53:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its for all tracktypes including maglev
19:53:25  <Stablean> <V453000> maglev is there just because the engine is also there for maglev
19:53:29  <Stablean> <Anson> and where do i find it ?
19:53:33  <Stablean> <V453000> there wont eb any real maglev trains though
19:53:34  <Stablean> <solo> ah i can make it here to
19:53:37  <Stablean> <solo> lets try something
19:53:55  <Stablean> <V453000> where do you find what Anson?
19:53:55  <Stablean> <Anson> lol ... right on top ... firstr engine
19:54:01  <Stablean> <V453000> ah
19:54:01  <Stablean> <solo> not for me
19:54:03  <Stablean> <solo> i relocated
19:54:57  <Stablean> <solo> so its for space between wagons right?
19:55:07  <Stablean> <V453000> what?
19:55:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> if you want that
19:55:13  <Stablean> <solo> looks alright
19:55:13  <Stablean> <V453000> I just told you what it is for
19:55:19  <Stablean> <solo> ye but i didnt get it fully
19:55:29  <Stablean> <V453000> you have 1 engine on trains now
19:55:31  <Stablean> <V453000> in future you want two
19:55:35  <Stablean> <solo> eh
19:55:37  <Stablean> <solo> wait
19:55:39  <Stablean> <V453000> you make 1 engine and 1 invisible engine in start
19:55:46  <Stablean> <V453000> and autoreplace to 2 later
19:55:47  <Stablean> <V453000> done
19:55:47  <Stablean> <solo> why would i want 2 again?
19:55:51  <Stablean> <V453000> more power?
19:55:54  <Stablean> <solo> power?
19:56:00  <Stablean> <solo> whatfor?
19:56:02  <Stablean> <V453000> acceleration, horse power, whatever
19:56:06  <Stablean> <solo> heh
19:56:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> got a shitload of tracks and these questions
19:56:14  <Stablean> <solo> u must mean tractive effort
19:56:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> :)
19:56:26  <Stablean> <V453000> tractive effort too of course
19:56:33  <Stablean> <solo> as Horse Power is totally useless for hilly maps
19:56:47  <Stablean> <solo> well ye this is my first time here
19:56:47  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt but ok.
19:56:57  <Stablean> <solo> so that why im asking ;)
19:57:15  <Stablean> <solo> a way to?
19:57:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> why?
19:57:19  <Stablean> <solo> bored
19:57:31  <Stablean> <solo> i can go to 1000 trains but dont know what for ;)
19:57:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> dude you can make an epic railway
19:57:43  <Stablean> <solo> i can make that any time
19:57:52  <Stablean> <solo> im not into big connected rails
19:57:57  <Stablean> <solo> im more a goal player
19:57:59  <Stablean> <solo> and citybuild
19:58:13  <Stablean> <solo> so speed is essiantial for me and above looks :)
19:58:19  <Stablean> <solo> essential*
19:58:49  <Stablean> <solo> feel free to take over, pw = 1234
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19:58:55  <Stablean> <V453000> ..
19:59:01  <Stablean> <V453000> goals are dumb :)
19:59:17  <Stablean> <solo> its the skill part that attracts me ;)
19:59:23  <Stablean> <Anson> then this might be the wron server ... here, first goal is to have big networks, maybe building them together ... coop, etc
19:59:25  <Stablean> <V453000> what skill part on goals
19:59:33  <Stablean> <solo> speed
19:59:39  <Stablean> <V453000> there is no skill part on goals
19:59:45  <Stablean> <V453000> speed = clicking keys like a monkey?
19:59:47  <Stablean> <solo> maybe not the way u play them
19:59:53  <Stablean> <solo> not only that
20:00:20  <Stablean> <solo> thinkin about transfers, 7 tile curves, preparing cities, setup woodlines
20:00:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> transfers :/
20:00:33  <Stablean> <solo> if u say goal has no skills u clearly havent played :)
20:00:37  <Stablean> <V453000> that is all way too basic and easy
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20:00:50  <Stablean> <V453000> I believe I would beat you on any goal
20:01:00  <Stablean> <solo> that i want to see
20:01:02  <Stablean> <solo> got time right now?
20:01:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> fight, fight, fight
20:01:06  <Stablean> <V453000> not quite
20:01:08  <Stablean> <solo> to bad
20:01:18  <Stablean> <solo> so whats ur setting?
20:01:24  <Stablean> <solo> u want a server with 20 tiles trains?
20:01:30  <Stablean> <solo> im used to 7, but ill take both
20:01:33  <Stablean> <V453000> still, openttd provides a lot more complexity for big networks than juts for making money
20:01:35  <Stablean> <solo> no air ofcourse
20:01:45  <Stablean> <solo> yep totally agree
20:01:47  <Stablean> <Anson> just bought an invis engine for testing ... it has length 0.1 (or maybe rather 1/8 ?) ... thus watch out for a TL3 with a normal engine and 5 wagons when you add that invis engine
20:01:49  <Stablean> <V453000> 2-5 tiles is reasonable
20:02:04  <Stablean> <solo> going for cyclotrons and equalizers is pretty fun
20:02:14  <Stablean> <solo> but in the end its not very usable
20:02:16  <Stablean> <V453000> quite useless though
20:02:20  <Stablean> <solo> yep
20:02:38  <Stablean> <solo> so where did u played any goal?
20:02:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> SML in such a game
20:02:42  <Stablean> <solo> in the past?
20:02:44  <Stablean> *** radjha has started a new company (#6)
20:03:08  <Stablean> <V453000> dont really know the names of these noob servers
20:03:38  <Stablean> <solo> heh
20:03:53  <Stablean> <solo> i think if it came down for a fight in a goal server ur in for a treat bigtime :)
20:04:03  <Stablean> <V453000> put 3000 trains on a 512x512 map, that is a valid goal
20:04:11  <Stablean> <solo> length?
20:04:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> luukland usses modified trains
20:04:19  <Stablean> <V453000> 3 for example
20:04:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> unfair
20:04:25  <Stablean> <solo> luukland only uses tgv and renfe in desert
20:04:32  <Stablean> <V453000> how is it unfair Vinnie, same rules for anybody
20:04:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> still the power is weak
20:04:44  <Stablean> <solo> tgv is just asiastar with 300km/h
20:04:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> worse then default
20:04:58  <Stablean> <solo> and the renfe 1 and 2 are just 2 electric temperate trains with low T.E.
20:05:36  <Stablean> <solo> besides, the games there dont go over 1997
20:05:50  <Stablean> <V453000> luukland?
20:05:52  <Stablean> <solo> ye
20:05:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> here you play 10 min, so does it matter?
20:05:57  <Stablean> <V453000> kings of noobs :)
20:06:11  <Stablean> <solo> not quite :)
20:06:25  <Stablean> <V453000> ever seen
20:06:40  <Stablean> <solo> no but im curious if there are fast players out there
20:07:02  <Stablean> <V453000> no we are terrible slow.
20:07:08  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
20:07:10  <Stablean> <solo> thats exactly what i thought
20:07:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> games take ages
20:07:27  <Stablean> <V453000> we are able to build very fast
20:07:54  <Stablean> <Firestar> not all players V
20:07:56  <Stablean> <solo> would u mind creating a company and giving me a view where u are going to buiold to show me some
20:07:56  <Stablean> <V453000> anyone is able to build quickly after a while
20:08:14  <Stablean> <solo> trust me, there are quite big differences no matter how long people play
20:08:26  <Stablean> <V453000> christ
20:09:40  <Stablean> <V453000> just go have a look at
20:09:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> your network has some balancing problems, solo
20:09:48  <Stablean> <V453000> and tell me if quick building is intelligent
20:09:55  <Stablean> <solo> ye its because i switched the rail to 140 km/h
20:09:57  <Stablean> <V453000> besides, yes, we are able to buil sufficiently fast.
20:10:03  <Stablean> <solo> so to much trainsn now
20:10:17  <Stablean> <solo> and V, building fast and intelligent can easily be compared
20:10:24  <Stablean> <solo> u should know
20:10:40  <Stablean> <solo> but ok
20:10:42  <Stablean> <solo> openttdcoop
20:10:56  <Stablean> <solo> (i thought that was this server)
20:10:59  <Stablean> <V453000> website
20:11:05  <Stablean> <solo> website?
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20:11:12  <Stablean> <solo> u want me to go to the website?
20:11:18  <Stablean> <V453000> yes?
20:11:24  <Stablean> <solo> i been there ;)
20:11:38  <Stablean> <solo> read some good story about somebody who created all kind of graphics etc
20:11:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lol
20:11:52  <Stablean> <solo> and created a sweet looking map including rails through towns etc
20:11:56  <Stablean> <V453000> wtf ._.
20:12:03  <Stablean> <solo> there is some interesting info there :)
20:12:09  <Stablean> <solo> however
20:12:23  <Stablean> <solo> i didnt find much to my likings there, besides lot of basic questions
20:12:41  <Stablean> <V453000> seen some of the archive savegames for example?
20:12:47  <Stablean> <solo> no
20:12:50  <Stablean> <solo> lets do that
20:13:24  <Stablean> <solo> (*psst do u have a link)?
20:13:24  <Stablean> <solo> :)
20:13:39  <Stablean> <V453000>
20:13:53  <Stablean> <V453000> or the pro zone archive if that isnt enough
20:14:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> refer him to number 13
20:14:22  <Stablean> <V453000> would need a special revision for that
20:14:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he needs grf pack to
20:15:15  <Stablean> <solo> any game in particular?
20:15:25  <Stablean> <V453000> idk 219 was nice
20:15:32  <Stablean> <solo> oki
20:16:03  <Stablean> <Anson> website = http and that stuff :-)
20:16:30  <Stablean> <solo> missing lot of graphic packs
20:16:44  <Stablean> <Anson> sorry ... why does the console have no indicator whether you are at the bottom or have scrolled ?
20:16:52  <Vinnie_nl>
20:17:02  <Stablean> <V453000> from the top o f my head, 186, 197, 204, 205, 216, 219
20:17:08  <Stablean> <V453000> oh yes, download the grf pack
20:17:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 220 is no grf
20:17:17  <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice to have the console as a small window which can be moved, resized, etc
20:18:59  <Stablean> <V453000> hm interesting .. so I have wagons which are recolourable with local trains, that works perfectly. Also, that recolouring is taken to other train types than local. So for example ice trains can have (blue) wagons attached. However these wagons will look as normal wagons of that ice ... I guess that is the best solution for it.
20:19:21  <Stablean> <V453000> ice trains dont break, they just have the refittability
20:19:28  <Stablean> <V453000> and look just like they always used to
20:20:06  <Stablean> <solo> silly question
20:20:09  <Stablean> <V453000> so you can autoreplace to ice and back to local without losing the colour configuration
20:20:11  <Stablean> <solo> where do those grfx go in which folder?
20:20:19  <Stablean> <V453000> documents/openttd/data
20:20:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> windows?
20:20:23  <Stablean> <solo> k
20:21:30  <Stablean> <solo> k im in, brb
20:22:08  <Stablean> <solo> 2751?:P
20:22:35  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  we need to  short out this     we got tanq
20:25:13  <Stablean> <V453000> why the spectator only chat?
20:25:19  <Stablean> <solo> no reason
20:25:23  <Stablean> <solo> because they are playing
20:25:27  <Stablean> <V453000> idk, few people
20:25:40  <Stablean> <solo> so these games run for so long?
20:25:52  <Stablean> <V453000> this was about 2 weeks
20:25:58  <Stablean> <solo> wah
20:26:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Paranoid: some tracks are broken
20:26:00  <Stablean> <solo> :D
20:26:02  <Stablean> <V453000> dont know, the wiki says it
20:26:12  <Stablean> <V453000> ok 3 weeks
20:26:30  <Stablean> <V453000> there was no building for like 4 days I think
20:26:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that isnt a luuklanf game
20:27:11  <Stablean> <solo> looks good
20:27:23  <Stablean> <V453000> and now tell me that quick games take skill..
20:27:25  <Stablean> <solo> why pre signals instead of pbs though for double bridges
20:27:32  <Stablean> <solo> they do the same work right?
20:27:42  <Stablean> <V453000> more or less
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20:27:44  <Stablean> <solo> righty
20:27:48  <Stablean> <V453000> presignals are more reliable
20:27:55  <Stablean> <solo> ye ofc this takes knowledge of the game
20:28:21  <Stablean> <solo> but it doesnt tell that short games dont take skill
20:28:33  <Stablean> <V453000> it does
20:28:43  <Stablean> <solo> no, it doesnt
20:28:45  <Stablean> <V453000> short games require only very basic knowledge
20:29:07  <Stablean> <Firestar> and long games?
20:29:33  <Stablean> <V453000> long games obviously do take some thinking as you get traffic problems, need expansions, etc
20:29:47  <Stablean> <V453000> if you play a short game you can just make a few separate lines and hope it is enough until game is over
20:29:53  <Stablean> <solo> oh comon
20:29:55  <Stablean> <V453000> no complexity
20:30:05  <Stablean> <solo> u dont even know the level of play obviously
20:30:12  <Stablean> <solo> u are just speculating
20:30:18  <Stablean> <V453000> I was on luukland, level of play is below zero
20:30:36  <Stablean> <solo> im not talking general
20:30:44  <Stablean> <solo> because thats not interesting
20:30:48  <Stablean> <V453000> so what are you talking about
20:30:50  <Stablean> <solo> i mean select group of people
20:30:56  <Stablean> <solo> that take the game to its edges
20:31:20  <Stablean> <V453000> how do you take the game to its edges in a 2 hour game? ..
20:31:34  <Stablean> <V453000> make the most money ever? :D
20:31:36  <Stablean> <V453000> good.
20:31:38  <Stablean> <solo> thats the beauty
20:31:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> everybody usses the same strategy each game, not really interesting after a few games
20:31:40  <Stablean> <solo> every second counts
20:31:46  <Stablean> <solo> ur limited by time
20:32:00  <Stablean> <solo> i can reproduce this in 2 weeks if i wanted to
20:32:00  <Stablean> <V453000> no that is just ridiculous, the only mind set is "farther delivered = better", nothing else
20:32:08  <Stablean> <V453000> no you cant reproduce it in 2 weeks
20:32:14  <Stablean> <V453000> you probably can reproduce it in 2 years
20:32:36  <Stablean> <solo> well ok lets stop this discussion as we are on different pages, id like to see you crush me in a goal game though
20:33:46  <Stablean> <solo> last thing i do want to add though, is that having 3-5 tile length trains makes you not having to take curve-length into account
20:33:58  <Stablean> <solo> it does matter with longer trains ;)
20:34:17  <Stablean> <V453000> it matters also with shorter trains of course
20:34:27  <Stablean> <solo> ye but less, because they are shorter, obviously
20:34:53  <Stablean> <V453000> yes but for building an intense network, 7 tiles is usually stupidly high
20:35:11  <Stablean> <solo> true,true
20:35:21  <Stablean> <solo> i can understand that 7 tile would limit you
20:35:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lol
20:38:11  <Stablean> <solo> lols
20:38:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Firestar, happy tran sport: want to merge i done enough for today
20:38:15  <Stablean> <solo> station spread 64?
20:38:21  <Stablean> <V453000> oh well that is a mistake
20:38:28  <Stablean> *** QwiXXeR joined the game
20:38:28  <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 12
20:38:28  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 5495 "Welcome QwiXXeR"
20:38:28  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 5495 "You are playing on \"{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (\""
20:38:28  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 5495 "House rules are at"
20:38:28  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 5495 "say !help for more information"
20:38:29  <Stablean> V453000: say_client 5495 "---"
20:38:29  <Stablean> V453000: you have 5 more messages
20:41:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> QwiXXeR: wanna use my company as a kickstart?
20:41:56  <Stablean> <solo> so is there also competition on openttdcoop V? (might be a stupid question as the name has coop in it)
20:42:06  <Stablean> <V453000> here is
20:42:12  <Stablean> <solo> in the prozone no?
20:42:30  <Stablean> <V453000> no, pro zone obviously isnt for competition
20:42:42  <Stablean> <V453000> there was a competitive game once however :)
20:43:49  <Stablean> <solo> breakdowns?
20:44:00  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> Solo u got a ajam
20:44:15  <Stablean> <V453000> idk if that was with breakdowns but we never use breakdowns
20:44:17  <Stablean> <solo> nah its just crownded
20:44:27  <Stablean> <solo> oh there
20:44:31  <Stablean> <solo> same :)
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20:45:07  <Stablean> <Firestar> wb
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20:46:45  <Stablean> <solo> breakdowns would make your pro game even more interesting ;)
20:47:00  <Stablean> <solo> but neh, they are annoying
20:47:19  <Stablean> <V453000> breakdowns are completely broken
20:47:27  <Stablean> <V453000> you cant make trains not break down
20:47:34  <Stablean> <V453000> by proper servicing
20:47:36  <Stablean> <V453000> so ...
20:47:38  <Stablean> <solo> ye they break down on 99% inside depots
20:47:41  <Stablean> <solo> i know
20:48:01  <Stablean> <solo> it wouldnt fit here to
20:48:07  <Stablean> <solo> probably cost you 1k trains
20:48:10  <Stablean> <V453000> then how could you even say that it would make game moer interesting
20:48:16  <Stablean> <solo> just joking
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20:49:34  <Stablean> <solo> ok lets see some other
20:49:37  <Stablean> <solo> others
20:50:51  <Stablean> <Paranoid> vannie, here ?
20:50:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Vinnie, yes
20:51:14  <Stablean> <Paranoid> I have no idea how the signals works and why I need them
20:51:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> if you want multiple trains on a track you need to use signals
20:51:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> saves building space
20:51:41  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ok
20:51:43  <Stablean> <Firestar> cya all bit later
20:51:45  <Stablean> <Phillip> To prevent trains from crashing into each other and stuff like that.
20:51:48  <Stablean> <Phillip> bb
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20:51:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> otherwise your system works but is hard to expand
20:51:59  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yeah
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20:52:24  <Stablean> <Paranoid> and how to use them ?
20:52:31  <Stablean> *** Vinnie has joined spectators
20:52:44  <Stablean> <Phillip> Vinnie's comp died.
20:52:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i know
20:52:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> did it on purpose
20:53:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Paranoid: can i join your company to explain?
20:53:15  <Stablean> <Paranoid> sure
20:53:17  <Stablean> <Paranoid> sec
20:53:39  <Stablean> <Paranoid> pass vennie
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20:54:07  <Stablean> <Paranoid> take kredit for building
20:54:11  <Stablean> <Paranoid> failed anyway
20:54:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets do the iron ore trakc first
20:54:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> track
20:54:29  <Stablean> <Paranoid> kk
20:54:57  <Stablean> <Paranoid> how you see that its wrong ?
20:55:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> press x
20:55:27  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ty!
20:55:37  <Stablean> <Paranoid> thats what I wanted
20:55:37  <Stablean> <Paranoid> xD
20:56:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke signals will mean we got a track that goes up and a track that goes down
20:56:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so infront af a station we need an X to cross
20:56:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets make those
20:56:34  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ok
20:56:44  <Stablean> <solo> is there no way to reset own company?
20:56:47  <Stablean> <Phillip> No.
20:56:49  <Stablean> <Anson> ARGS ... forest is gone which i already servuice well for a few years :-(
20:56:55  <Stablean> <solo> ok ill manually remove it then
20:56:56  <Stablean> <solo> :D
20:56:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> build a ship
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20:57:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you see the junctions?
20:57:11  <Stablean> <Phillip> And you'll die.
20:57:25  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yeah
20:57:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke now we signal
20:57:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> select the signals from the track bar
20:57:55  <Stablean> <Paranoid> did
20:57:58  <Stablean> <Paranoid> which one of the signals ?
20:58:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the simple one in the lower left corner
20:58:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you see where i placed some signals?
20:58:34  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yeah
20:58:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> can you continue a bit?
20:58:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i see you use two way signals
20:58:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> asas
20:59:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oops
20:59:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> click them one more time before you drag
20:59:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  see this
20:59:32  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ah
20:59:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> still two way signals
21:00:04  <Stablean> <Paranoid> which do you want from me ?
21:00:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the one way signals
21:01:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> place one two-way signal and then click it a second time
21:01:06  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then drag it
21:01:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice
21:01:35  <Stablean> <Paranoid> now I got what you mean^
21:01:42  <Stablean> <Paranoid> why not the two way signal ?
21:01:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now the other side
21:02:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but click it 3 times
21:02:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> good
21:03:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now the parts arround the corner
21:04:06  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
21:04:22  <Stablean> <Paranoid> like hits ?
21:04:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes nice
21:04:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now while you got the signal placing tool in your hand you can do something else
21:05:20  <Stablean> <Paranoid> you mean ?
21:05:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> do you see the little track in the farmlands?
21:05:34  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yeah
21:05:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> keep ctrl pressed and clikc one of those signals
21:06:03  <Stablean> <Paranoid> dosnt work
21:06:06  <Stablean> <Paranoid> does
21:06:21  <Stablean> <Paranoid> and that makes ?
21:06:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> multiple times to  change it to another type
21:06:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> try to see howmany there are
21:06:40  <Stablean> <Paranoid> did
21:07:19  <Stablean> <Paranoid> what are the differences ?
21:07:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> they all have a different function
21:07:37  <Stablean> <Paranoid> crazy Oo
21:07:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> but for your station we use the PBS one
21:07:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ted with white horizontal line
21:07:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> red
21:08:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you see the last signal before each X?
21:08:32  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yup
21:08:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that one needs to be the red one
21:08:47  <Stablean> <Paranoid> this one ?
21:08:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the one entering the platform
21:09:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
21:09:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> other side to
21:09:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nice
21:09:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thats it
21:09:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> this line will work
21:09:43  <Stablean> <solo> :o
21:10:01  <Stablean> <Paranoid> now I can use more then 2 trains ?
21:10:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> some trains and done
21:10:05  <Stablean> <Phillip> yes
21:10:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
21:10:13  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ok
21:10:27  <Stablean> <Paranoid> thank you (:
21:10:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> this is the very basic. try some more and if you have problems just ask
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21:11:05  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ok, thank you
21:11:21  <Stablean> <Paranoid> will try it, but have to go for the first
21:11:53  <Stablean> *** solo has joined spectators
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21:12:32  <Stablean> <solo> nice jam blue ;)
21:15:06  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   stop for a mite  let me shor out this tran w
21:15:42  <Stablean> *** solo has started a new company (#4)
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21:20:38  <Stablean> <solo> how to recieve the magic pw to the prozone?
21:21:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> solo: invite by a member
21:21:37  <Stablean> <solo> ah
21:21:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Public server game is free to join
21:21:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you got access to 2/3 servers
21:22:09  <Stablean> <solo> it also has a pw is that correct?
21:22:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes but you can get that
21:22:56  <Stablean> <solo> i c
21:23:07  <Stablean> <solo> need version upgrade first
21:23:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> get into the irc channel
21:23:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> there you can get all
21:23:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> a client is available on the website
21:25:46  <Vinnie_nl>  @@irc
21:25:49  <Webster> IRC - #openttdcoop Wiki -
21:25:54  <Vinnie_nl> ah it works
21:26:09  <Stablean> <solo> think i got it
21:27:07  <Stablean> <solo> ah got the wrong v
21:27:31  <Stablean> <V453000> you must join the irc channel anyway
21:27:34  <Vinnie_nl> in channel type !dl win64
21:28:16  <Stablean> <solo> trust me i have no idea how irc works
21:28:22  <Stablean> <solo> what to type into channel|?
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21:28:50  <Vinnie_nl> your not in irc channel
21:29:23  <Vinnie_nl> or do you mean the webclient which asks channel?
21:29:27  <Stablean> <V453000> when you are browsing the website, on the top of it is IRC
21:29:30  <Vinnie_nl> then its openttdcoop
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21:31:07  <Mazur> !rcon move 5465 255
21:31:07  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
21:31:13  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
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21:31:37  <Stablean> <V453000> wagon colouring 100% done Vinnie :)
21:31:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nicw
21:31:51  <Mazur> !rcon move 5465 255
21:31:51  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
21:31:57  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
21:31:57  <Stablean> <V453000> few more features and we have nuts 021
21:31:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> ^^
21:32:01  <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #7
21:32:09  <Mazur> !rcon move 5465 255
21:32:09  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
21:32:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> still did not finish a game with it
21:32:13  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
21:32:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie>  one in the PSG
21:32:23  <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #7
21:32:33  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm :)
21:32:45  <Stablean> <V453000> perhaps we can use it next psg
21:32:47  <Mazur> !rcon move 5465 255
21:32:47  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
21:32:53  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
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21:33:31  <Mazur> !rcon move 5465 255
21:33:31  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
21:33:37  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
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21:39:12  <Stablean> <Anson> how can i see which trains require a brake van ... BEFORE i buy them and try to release them from depot ?
21:40:11  <Stablean> <Anson> i have used a 4-6-0 King Arthur with Wood Truck wagons, and they needed no brake van ... now i use the 2-8-0F and that one requires a brake van ....
21:40:52  <Stablean> <Anson> should both be from the same set, thus no problems ? but on releasing from depot, i get the error message
21:41:36  <V453000> UKRS2 has some conditions in that but I dont really know how it works
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22:01:21  <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game
22:01:33  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hia hi
22:03:43  <V453000> hia hi hu
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23:46:10  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
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23:54:12  <Stablean> <Cameron> hi
23:54:22  <Stablean> <Matt> hallo :)
23:54:25  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi matt
23:54:51  <Stablean> <Matt> hello hello :)
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