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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 17th June 2012:
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00:05:50  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep
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00:25:17  <Stablean> <destro> did the map restart already?
00:25:40  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> your company blew up
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00:48:02  <Stablean> <Phillip>  watch it and replace anything when it gets old.
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00:54:47  <BiG_MeEcH> hi
00:54:54  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
00:54:56  <Stablean> <Phillip> hello
00:54:56  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi big meech
00:54:57  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5543 (Dark Blue) is Phillip, in company 2 (happy tran sport Transport)
00:54:57  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5547 (Dark Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 2 (happy tran sport Transport)
00:54:57  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5434 (Red) is Anson, in company 3 (Anson Transport)
00:54:57  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5560 (Brown) is Cameron, in company 7 (Cameron Transport)
00:54:57  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5572 (Green) is destro, in company 1 (destro Transport)
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00:58:27  <Stablean> <Big Meech> re-re-hi
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01:11:21  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  goo night all have fun bee backe  to mor
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01:26:21  <Mazth> !date
01:26:21  <Stablean> Mazth:  3 Jun 1956
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01:46:00  <Stablean> <Phillip> At the coal drop destro, you could more the x up more.
01:46:22  <Stablean> <destro> hmmm?
01:46:40  <Stablean> <Phillip> At your power station.
01:46:48  <Stablean> <destro> do what?
01:47:10  <Stablean> <Phillip> Move the x more up, the cross.
01:47:40  <Stablean> <destro> oh, farther from the station?
01:48:10  <Stablean> <Cameron> leave it, it works reguardless
01:48:32  <Stablean> <Phillip> Who cares.
01:50:15  <Stablean> <destro> oh i see
01:50:30  <Stablean> <Phillip> Remember transparency options.
01:50:56  <Stablean> <destro> yes, right
01:52:58  <Stablean> <Phillip> So expensive for an electric train!
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02:06:17  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Mazth!
02:06:28  <Stablean> <Mazth> ohai
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02:07:57  <Stablean> <ROM5419> may i thank the Lord that the Stable Server is now autopaused upon connection
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02:26:14  <Stablean> <Phillip> See everyone later.
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02:42:36  <Stablean> <ROM5419> No wonder you're called Destro :D
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03:35:58  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hi
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03:40:23  <BiG_MeEcH> hi
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03:53:05  <Stablean> <Phillip> I'm back.
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04:23:13  <BiG_MeEcH> hellooooooooooo =D
04:23:33  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi whatever you arrrreeee.
04:35:08  <BiG_MeEcH> I'm in etherland
04:35:14  <BiG_MeEcH> Population, 1
04:37:54  <Mazth> hiiiii =) man from etherland
04:39:14  <Mazth> the reset came one day too soon, before I could finish the network =(
04:40:53  <Stablean> <Diablo> noone buy me if u get offered
04:41:04  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> sure, lol
04:41:18  <Stablean> <Phillip> Whatever you say, Diablo.
04:46:40  <Stablean> <Phillip> Bye everyone, see you guys tommorow.
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04:47:48  <Stablean> <Phillip> LOL cranes  and stuff at my factory.
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06:15:30  <Stablean> <Anson> a bit southwest of brodingville is the end of my net, with a bridge :-)
06:17:36  <Stablean> <Anson> building a transfer station there to collect wood from 3-4 forests, and if time permits end the line in the northeast ....
06:18:50  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't want to collect all forests, but only to try building a long route with some "loading hubs" where TL3 trains deliver something which a long TL12 picks up and shuffles to the north
06:19:14  <Stablean> <Anson> then get goods from there and transport them back to the south where my first forests are
06:19:40  <Stablean> <Anson> only need few forests so that the transfer station is not always empty :-)
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07:24:43  <Stablean> <Cameron> nn all :)
07:24:49  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hello
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08:12:25  <Mazur> !rcon move 5710 255
08:12:25  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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08:14:03  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> fuck I went bankrupt?!!? :*(
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08:15:56  <Stablean> *** George 's company has started a new company (#9)
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08:16:34  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> looks that way QwiXXeR
08:16:41  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> any1 see what happend :( ?
08:16:44  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am close to it
08:16:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
08:16:59  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> i probably joined after that
08:17:10  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> I had so few trains :P it was only a little network to make some money over night :P
08:17:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> but you probably jammed
08:17:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> thank Sleeeper
08:17:38  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> n
08:17:40  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> np
08:17:58  <Stablean> <Anson> sorry, i didn't see what happened either
08:18:16  <Stablean> <Anson> but there are so many options besides a jam
08:19:06  <Stablean> <Anson> like forgetting to put "no load" after a command, and when a new resource spawns near the drop, trains pick it up and can't get rod of it ....
08:19:52  <Stablean> <Anson> or a resource disappearing ... happened to me twice in this game ... once was even after 2 full years of dervicing it
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08:20:48  <Stablean> <Anson> and i just start cursing : built a nice station next to a sawmill, but one tile too distant :-(
08:21:06  <Stablean> <Anson> any hint what to do ?
08:21:33  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> shift it closer?
08:21:35  <Stablean> <Anson> at sign "!one tile too distant
08:24:15  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, thanks ... a bit tired, and didn't see the obvious
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09:22:19  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
09:22:21  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hi
09:23:07  <Stablean> <V453000> hu
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09:23:09  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> :D
09:23:11  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
09:23:13  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hihi
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09:38:22  <Stablean> <Anson> Qwixx, can you please make the bridge 1 tile longer for a double tunnel ?
09:38:36  <Stablean> <Anson> it might also be a faster bridge for you :-)
09:40:50  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> aww
09:42:28  <Stablean> <Anson> BIG THANKS
09:42:31  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> np
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09:45:11  <Stablean> <Anson> and thanks for the other bridges too
09:45:38  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : guessing is pure luck ... i would have never guessed the result of this :
09:46:52  <Stablean> <Anson> although it might be obvious ... 12 for the first, 12 for the next, total 24, gap is 23 ...
09:47:15  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> need !these?
09:47:49  <Stablean> <Anson> no, thanks
09:47:51  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> k
09:48:01  <Stablean> <Anson> i COULD use them, but i don't NEED them :-)
09:48:11  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> then ill nom nom
09:48:30  <Stablean> <Anson> my goal is the long transport route ... and a few trees at the stations along the route, but not too many
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09:54:17  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hello all
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09:54:31  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hi
09:55:26  <V453000> ok Anson, loading speeds are: rail: 1st: 2, 2nd: 6, 3rd: 8, monorail: 6, maglev: 4
10:01:48  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks for the info ... the numbers are the number of ticks ? ... and 1st is really 2 or 12 ?
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10:14:57  <V453000> it is cargo units per loading stage
10:15:03  <V453000> it is 2
10:15:23  <V453000> so for example maglev with 24 units per wagon and 4 loading speed does 6 loading stages
10:15:45  <V453000> or does it :D
10:15:56  <V453000> idk but these are the values directly from the code
10:16:11  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> so mono does 5 stages?
10:16:19  <Stablean> <Anson> 100, 66, 33, 0 ... or 100, 60, 20, 0 ....
10:17:39  <V453000> I think so
10:17:53  <V453000> 100 60 20 doesnt make sense to me however, how did you reach that
10:19:21  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi all
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10:19:29  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hi
10:19:29  <Stablean> <ROM5419> hi
10:19:31  <Stablean> <Anson> the GRF is not currently loaded, but AFAIR the readme said something about 20/30/40 capacity, and it is only 35 ?
10:19:48  <V453000> yes it was changed rather recently
10:20:09  <V453000> readme has many wrong things atm
10:20:37  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't remember the exact values, but besides 66 and 33, i got steps of 30 or 40 a few times ... 100, 60, 20, or maybe 100, 70, 40, 0 ... maybe rouinding errors ....
10:22:04  <Stablean> <Anson> you said that it is the number of units loaded per wagon ... probably applies to all wagons in parallel when they are in the station, and then again for the next stationlength wagons after that ?
10:23:03  <V453000> each wagon separately  has its own value
10:23:11  <V453000> no relation between them
10:23:11  <Stablean> <Anson> then it would take twice as long for a train up to double stationlength, 3 times for a train 2.1-3.0 times as long, etc ?
10:23:41  <V453000> oh ... well who builds longer trains than stations :d
10:23:51  <Stablean> <Anson> just thought about the loading speed in this game ... max TL is 64 and max station spread is 12 ...
10:25:28  <V453000> how is that a problem :D
10:26:20  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, a nice detail i observed when loading/unkloading : on some trains, wagons are loaded one after the other, eg 50% filles shows half the wagons full, half empty ... but another time, all wagons were shown almost the same, thus all 25%, all 50%, all 75%, all full
10:28:51  <V453000> I think that happens only when loading
10:29:01  <Stablean> <ROM5419> 10 trains and stable income. Wow
10:29:11  <V453000> and with some certain state of the cargo waiting, no clue how exactly it works thoug
10:29:57  <Stablean> <Anson> Rom, you are sunrise ?
10:29:59  <Stablean> <ROM5419> Yup
10:30:14  <Stablean> <Anson> do you need the wood ?
10:30:20  <Stablean> <ROM5419> I change my company name every game
10:30:22  <Stablean> <ROM5419> Nope
10:30:28  <Stablean> <ROM5419> You can take them
10:30:34  <Stablean> <ROM5419> I focus on PAX
10:30:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i just built a small station there, to get a little wood on my northern terminal
10:31:26  <Stablean> <Anson> oh, new bridges !
10:31:48  <Stablean> <ROM5419> Tube bridges! Damn cool.
10:32:44  <Stablean> <Anson> i just had built a few bridges of length 30 with max speed 112 only ... now i can change them into tubes with 300+
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10:44:01  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, nice income from wood ... 290k$ from one train :-)
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10:59:08  <V453000> coding of next nuts version done :) few engines to redraw/improve and it is ready for next game :)
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10:59:26  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi
10:59:40  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> :D
10:59:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
11:01:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> power plants don't die
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11:21:50  <Stablean> <Firestar> hi kittenpeach
11:21:56  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hiya
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11:25:25  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> ...
11:25:28  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> -_-
11:25:31  <Stablean> <Firestar> -.-
11:25:37  <Stablean> <Paranoid> why is this happening ?
11:25:41  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> seems to take longer than usual
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11:25:51  <Stablean> <Firestar> someones keeps trying to connect
11:26:13  <Stablean> <Paranoid> hmm
11:27:06  <Stablean> <Firestar> i just wonder it is
11:27:12  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
11:27:14  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> :)
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11:31:22  <V453000> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
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12:05:25  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:05:27  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hi
12:05:41  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hi
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12:07:02  <ROM5419> Mind pausing the server for me to enter?
12:07:50  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, sleeper, did you recently have a look at the operating profit graph ?
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12:08:06  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> dont really care
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12:08:34  <Stablean> <Anson> i generally don't care either ... but it looks nice :-)
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12:11:11  <Stablean> <Dixon296> anyone want a helper ?
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12:11:48  <Stablean> <Anson> i need more money ... upgrading all tracks costs a lot ....
12:12:07  <Stablean> <Anson> thus i have to wait, convert the next part, wait, etc etc etc
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12:12:49  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> dixon wanna join? i probably off soon
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12:14:02  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yea will do :D
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12:14:46  <Stablean> <Dixon296> ty
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12:16:39  <ROM5419> Seems my crappy PC can't go in as long as the pause upon connect is off or Big Meech is offline... If anyone wants my company the password is 5ae3e653
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12:20:09  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:20:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
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12:21:48  <Stablean> <Dixon296> happy
12:21:58  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yes dixon
12:22:16  <Stablean> <Anson> rom: when people connect, the game automatically pauses ... and currently, i have no lag at all (in this entire game)
12:22:18  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i want to rebuild your junction :)
12:22:28  <Stablean> <Dixon296> its bugging me
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12:22:38  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
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12:22:55  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks, sleeper ... just finished converting all my tracks to the best quality :-)
12:23:17  <Stablean> <Anson> now i can start upgrading the engines ...
12:23:19  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> boosting you a bit
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12:23:47  <ROM5419> bye
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12:26:18  <Stablean> <Dixon296> sleeper anychance you can make !tunnles longer ?
12:26:37  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> play
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12:26:43  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> okay*
12:27:01  <Stablean> <Dixon296> ty very much :)
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12:32:54  <Stablean> <Paranoid> guys, can some one tell me what the best start is ? I mean when I open new company, what should I do first
12:33:21  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> i usually make 1 train and as longer route as possible
12:33:51  <Stablean> <Paranoid> why as long as possible ?
12:33:55  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> more income
12:34:02  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ok, thanks
12:34:05  <Stablean> <Anson> longer = more income
12:34:15  <Stablean> <Paranoid> but which kind of goods, no matter ?
12:34:21  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> any :)
12:34:27  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the graph
12:34:37  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ok, thats why you guys have trains all over the map xD
12:34:41  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> as long as you make sure you keep your rating up at the station
12:34:47  <Stablean> <Anson> cargo payment rates are there ....
12:35:06  <Stablean> <Anson> but if you can find two spots you like to connect, that is good too
12:35:16  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ok, thanks
12:35:45  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> and dont build on farm land at start
12:35:53  <Stablean> <Paranoid> why ?
12:35:55  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> it costs more
12:35:58  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ok
12:36:00  <Stablean> <Paranoid> thanks
12:36:10  <Stablean> <Anson> cleaning farm land (and rocks etc) costs a lot more than plain gras
12:36:37  <Stablean> <Anson> most people don't like farms to start anyway
12:36:43  <Stablean> <Paranoid> and what Ive learned that changing ground is really expensive too
12:36:45  <Stablean> <Dixon296> i do
12:37:07  <Stablean> <Anson> because of clearing the ground, and also because the resources mostly look more scarce
12:37:13  <Stablean> <Dixon296> nothing wrong with farms from start
12:37:48  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> it costs more when building on farmland
12:37:58  <Stablean> <Anson> when i look at farms, they mostly have very low production only, thus only very slowly filling a train
12:38:16  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> also farms give low income relatively
12:38:26  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> i would start with coal/wood
12:38:36  <Stablean> <Paranoid> thats what I do, mostly coal
12:39:02  <Stablean> <Anson> in addition, farms have two differenmt resources. to not get a deadlock later, you need to build two stations for those two resources ...
12:39:20  <Stablean> <Paranoid> deadlock ?
12:39:34  <Stablean> <Paranoid> oh thanks
12:39:44  <Stablean> <Anson> many people use coal ... easy to find, and don't belong to chains which later might be useful for networks
12:40:30  <Stablean> <Anson> wood mostly is good too ... and after you built the wood line, you can also transport the goods
12:40:40  <Stablean> <Dixon296> bye bye junction
12:41:36  <Stablean> <Anson> dealock: not really, but only a bolck/jam ... imagine a train waiting half a year for a livestock load and other trains queueing up behind it while grain starts to decrease
12:42:54  <Stablean> <Anson> thus you would need either one station with at least one more platform than you have trains for either of the resources (eg 4 grain trains, 6 livestock trains -> 7 platforms needed toguarantee no block)
12:43:14  <Stablean> <Anson> or you build separate stations
12:43:34  <Stablean> <Anson> and two stations require a lot of space, right in the middle of costly farmland
12:46:24  <Stablean> <Anson> i am AFK for a while now .... CU
12:56:56  <BiG_MeEcH> hihi
12:56:58  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
12:57:00  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi
12:57:01  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5635 (White) is Sleeeper, in company 4 (Sleeeper Transport)
12:57:01  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5724 (Cream) is QwiXXeR, in company 9 (QwiXXeR Transport)
12:57:01  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5645 is Cameron, a spectator
12:57:01  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5434 (Red) is Anson, in company 3 (Anson Transport)
12:57:01  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5821 (Dark Blue) is Dixon296, in company 2 (happy tran sport Transport)
12:57:03  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5847 (Dark Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 2 (happy tran sport Transport)
12:57:03  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5783 (Cream) is Kittenpeach, in company 9 (QwiXXeR Transport)
12:57:05  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 5853 (Purple) is Paranoid, in company 5 (NTX Transport)
12:57:05  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> hi
12:57:08  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hi
12:57:09  <BiG_MeEcH> hey guys =D
12:57:17  <BiG_MeEcH> hiya peachie
12:57:25  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> :D
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12:58:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> did Chris leave his comp open on purpose?
12:58:40  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> I'm not too sure
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12:59:58  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I added Chris' default password
13:00:18  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> I haven't seen him so far today
13:00:32  <Stablean> <Big Meech> seems he was here at 8am Uk time
13:00:40  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> too early for me :P
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13:00:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blue you are stopped all over?
13:01:05  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi g2x3k
13:01:12  <Stablean> <Sleeeper> nah they rebuild junction
13:01:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> ah ok
13:01:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i need to get going
13:01:23  <Stablean> <Dixon296> yup
13:01:25  <Stablean> <g2x3k> hey
13:01:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> will see you all later
13:01:29  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> bb
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13:11:45  <Stablean> <g2x3k> ah bugger :(
13:12:03  <Stablean> <g2x3k> oh well new game it is what a waste of time
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13:24:28  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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14:01:55  <Chris_Booth[ph]> Hi
14:01:59  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hi
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15:11:55  <V453000> !date
15:11:55  <Stablean> V453000: 10 Aug 2016
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16:56:01  <Stablean> <pav> happy, you have " jam"  at  Goodie Manufacturer 002
16:58:00  <Stablean> <pav> sell some goods trains, they are too much
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17:01:26  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi mazth
17:01:34  <Stablean> <Mazth> hellow
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17:22:46  <Stablean> <Paranoid> lagged because of me ? sry
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17:23:30  <Stablean> <pav> its cant lag , because of somebody I think...
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17:27:36  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi syl59
17:32:19  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hello
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17:51:09  <Stablean> <Mazth> lol my trams are almost as fast as my trains :P
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17:52:39  <Stablean> <pav> hotels and stadiums accept and produce tourists ... swedish house set
17:53:35  <Stablean> <Mazth> interesting :)
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17:59:57  <Stablean> <Firestar> rehi
18:00:03  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
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19:15:29  <Stablean> <Mazth> Qwixxer put on the pants! it is Qwixxer transport now! poor peach
19:15:31  <Stablean> <Mazth> ;)
19:15:41  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> :(
19:15:55  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> my company went bang in the night
19:15:58  <Stablean> <Mazth> awwwh
19:16:00  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> so we had to restart :P
19:16:18  <Stablean> <Mazth> yh this set is a bit slower to start up
19:16:45  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> we were replacing our trains, and Q thinks they jammed just after we went to bed
19:17:28  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> that's our luck hehe
19:17:54  <Stablean> <Mazth> yeah probably..jammed train = no income =(
19:18:08  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> it was a shame because we made a pretty nice network
19:18:27  <Stablean> <Mazth> just make a network that does not jam? =P
19:18:46  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> thats what we tried this time :P
19:18:47  <Stablean> <Mazth> it is a shame indeed...wasted hours etc
19:19:14  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> we should have waited to see them all replace really
19:19:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> well it looks like it is running fine :P
19:19:34  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> and we are getting chinese food soon too!
19:19:44  <Stablean> <Mazth> need more trains!
19:20:18  <Stablean> <Mazth> uuuh nice =) I still have to cook :P
19:20:21  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> aaw
19:20:48  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> what are you going to make? :)
19:21:25  <Stablean> <Mazth> I think I ll keep it simple with pasta, red sauce and a lot of veggies =)
19:21:39  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> thats good, I like pasta too :)
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19:22:13  <Stablean> <Mazth> and then a lot of cheese because cheese is goooooood ^^
19:22:19  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> yeah hehe :D
19:22:45  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> I'm so freaking hungry!
19:23:48  <Stablean> <Mazth> =( the delivery guy being slow?
19:24:10  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> we only just ordered, I hope they don't decide to drive off again :P
19:27:58  <Stablean> <Mazth> drive off? like oh noone is opening the door let's hit the road again?
19:28:36  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> he rang us, so we told him where we were a few times
19:28:46  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> but i don't think he understood at all :P
19:28:52  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> so he just drove off lol
19:29:18  <Stablean> <Mazth> random!
19:29:20  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hehe yes
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19:30:41  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
19:30:42  <Stablean> <Mazth> hello
19:31:12  <Stablean> <V453000> pax revenge? :P wait for the next game
19:31:28  <Stablean> <Mazth> no revenge
19:31:35  <Stablean> <Mazth> was too late
19:31:42  <Stablean> <V453000> I guess
19:32:08  <Stablean> <Mazth> just test the info on towns to see it working in game
19:32:22  <Stablean> <Mazth> test...well using it
19:32:57  <Stablean> <Mazth> was not able to complete the tram s bahn set up so might test that too
19:33:11  <Stablean> <Mazth> just derping around a bit
19:34:09  <Stablean> <Mazth> does this set has maglev?
19:34:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> have
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19:35:43  <Stablean> <Mazth> wb dixon :)
19:35:46  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hello
19:36:37  <Stablean> <V453000> nah no maglev
19:36:46  <Stablean> <Mazth> ok
19:36:58  <Stablean> <Dixon296> hey V
19:36:58  <Stablean> <V453000> there is only like 3 trains coming I think
19:37:00  <Stablean> <V453000> hio
19:37:20  <Stablean> <V453000> all of which rail, one strong steamer, eh40 and CT60 goes right there in fact
19:37:38  <Stablean> <Mazth> ct60 pretty fast =)
19:49:55  <Stablean> <V453000> holy fuck
19:50:01  <Stablean> <Mazth> ??
19:50:07  <Stablean> <V453000> sleeper uses presignal bypass x.x
19:50:26  <Stablean> <Mazth> where?
19:50:28  <Stablean> <V453000> with especially dangerous setup
19:50:34  <Stablean> <V453000> New Grardston Transfer
19:51:29  <Stablean> <V453000> well actually
19:51:39  <Stablean> <V453000> with this long trains it probably wont make issues
19:52:01  <Stablean> <Mazth> traffic does not seem dense too
19:52:07  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
19:53:05  <Stablean> <Mazth> oh and thanks for the big map btw!
19:53:15  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
19:53:43  <Stablean> <Mazth> its 1024*512 right?
19:53:45  <Stablean> <V453000> sure
19:53:51  <Stablean> <V453000> we have that rather often lately
19:53:57  <Stablean> <V453000> it only has quite a bit less water
19:54:12  <Stablean> <V453000> making most companies build stupidly long lines over half of the map, which is just disgusting
19:54:18  <Stablean> <Mazth> well that is bigger than the 512^2 we used to have :)
19:54:40  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah but when we play with nuts people tend to play a lot more and get bigger companies
19:54:44  <Stablean> <Mazth> long lines=more profit and ppl love the trustfund
19:54:46  <Stablean> <V453000> so 512x512 tends to be too small
19:54:58  <Stablean> <V453000> islands on their heads.
19:56:25  <Stablean> <V453000> im not going to make the same mistake for a while again now
19:56:39  <Stablean> <V453000> long map with a lot of land is inevitably coming to this
19:57:43  <Stablean> <Mazth> `
19:57:53  <Stablean> <Mazth> looks like it indeed
19:58:11  <Stablean> <Dixon296> its a uggley game :p
19:58:30  <Stablean> <Mazth> but the server is also quite active with usually 7 comps active filling the map fast
19:58:48  <Stablean> <Dixon296> the maps not full
19:59:02  <Stablean> <Mazth> this one not even close :P
19:59:20  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> the nuts maps seems to fill up fast
19:59:38  <Stablean> <Dixon296> just people crossing each other to reach the other side of map
20:00:20  <Stablean> <Mazth> hardly any high density networks
20:00:46  <Stablean> <Mazth> we need to set better examples :P
20:01:00  <Stablean> <V453000> I dont really even know why nuts games seem to be fuller
20:01:14  <Stablean> <V453000> the trains have more throughput capacity than this, there should be less of them
20:01:20  <Stablean> <V453000> dont tell me costs are all that matters
20:01:55  <Stablean> <Mazth> it matters some but mainly just in the beginning
20:02:10  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> quite a few ppl went bang on this map
20:02:24  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> i guess they got annoyed and didn't want to rebuild
20:02:34  <Stablean> <Mazth> but I actually had no problem here starting with this little pax line and only 250k loan
20:02:46  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> we will be back shortly after food :)
20:03:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> enjoy the nomz!
20:03:24  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> ty hehe :)
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20:03:56  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> lol
20:04:02  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> kittenpeach is screaming
20:04:10  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> coz chinese came!!
20:04:29  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah the start is faster for sure
20:04:31  <Stablean> <Mazth> hahaha :P must be veeeeeery hungry
20:04:33  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> lol im just kidding :P but shes very happy :P
20:04:35  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> uhuh
20:04:38  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> back in a bit
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20:04:42  <Stablean> <Mazth> ciao!
20:05:00  <Stablean> <V453000> but I mean... it is 2038, this is no start
20:05:14  <Stablean> <Mazth> hmhm
20:05:19  <Stablean> <V453000> industries grow equally fast, and trains carry less
20:05:32  <Stablean> <Mazth> ppl just don t want to spend their bucks I guess
20:05:55  <Stablean> <V453000> that sounds really weird with the millions everyone has
20:05:57  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> It takes a bit longer top setup and if u go away and ahve a problem anywhere on your line then the running cost means u go bang :P which is good really i think. some challenge
20:06:13  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> but with nuts 90% of ure network can be jammed and the 10% working can carry all the costs
20:06:19  <Stablean> <V453000> I think that is just forced waiting
20:06:19  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> laterz:P
20:06:21  <Stablean> <V453000> cya
20:06:35  <Stablean> <V453000> because it just always takes ages before you are able to purchase more stuff
20:07:58  <Stablean> <Mazth> the tracks require some investment too but it is actually easier to make a full network with slow trains
20:09:58  <Stablean> <V453000> w/e ... regardless of the reason I think there is such tendency, which puzzles me a lot. I strongly doubt it is because one set is better or worse or more liked or less, but I just cant seem to see the reasons
20:10:33  <Stablean> <V453000> because seriously, we play nuts here for 10 weeks and we had it about 23 times already
20:10:47  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt anything that special anymore I believe
20:10:59  <Stablean> <V453000> or at least not like "omg I havent seen this yet, lets try it"
20:11:39  <Stablean> <Mazth> it has more become something familiar, like hey I know how this set works for a bit
20:12:45  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm
20:12:59  <Stablean> <Mazth> but what you stated for NUTS that it focusses on gameplay appears to work quite well  in the games here
20:13:09  <Stablean> <V453000> :D
20:13:21  <Stablean> <Dixon296> and it has brainmelters
20:13:36  <Stablean> <V453000> oh yeah, that is obviously the reason. :D
20:13:38  <Stablean> <Mazth> it is just what the ppl do with that option that makes a difference
20:13:53  <Stablean> <Mazth>  <3 brainmelters!
20:14:09  <Stablean> <Mazth> and colourful fewd and pink elephants!
20:14:19  <Stablean> <V453000> you seen the latest feature already?
20:14:21  <Stablean> <Dixon296> rainbow trains make the difference :P
20:14:51  <Stablean> <Mazth> latest feature?
20:15:01  <Stablean> <V453000> for nuts :)
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20:17:25  <Stablean> <V453000> well nevermind :) you will be surprised next game
20:18:15  <Stablean> <Mazth> it appears I have not seen this new feature :P
20:18:37  <Stablean> <Mazth> btw where are those unicorns which were talked about in the forum post?
20:19:36  <Stablean> <Mazth> is the feature in nuts 0.2?
20:20:03  <Stablean> <V453000> no, in 021 obviously
20:20:42  <Stablean> <Mazth> ah ok I can 't find data on it, but then I have not searched very hard ;)
20:22:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I posted a screenshot on the forums actually :p
20:23:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> hmm I must be going blind then ;)
20:23:47  <V453000>  http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=161155
20:29:23  <Mazth> huh what forum is that on?
20:29:59  <V453000> as the link shows, tt-forums.net
20:30:03  <V453000> which other forum? :D
20:30:09  <V453000> or you mean subsection?
20:30:14  <V453000> graphics development
20:30:28  <Mazth> yh tread
20:30:46  <V453000> well thead is NUTS...
20:30:54  <Mazth> ah it is in the dev
20:32:00  <Mazth> and the rainbow power is very sexy
20:32:56  <V453000> works for all local trains from the first one to the last one :)
20:33:03  <V453000> rail only obviously ... at least for now
20:36:46  <Stablean> <V453000> I basically copied that from japanese train set :) some trains in it do exactly that
20:37:05  <Stablean> <V453000> well except the random ofc
20:38:06  <Mazth> hmm have you experimented with the direction of diagonal lighting?
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20:40:06  <Mazth> well it is a nice option to have :), I like the different colours on the pax trains already but they seems to get uniform quickly
20:42:43  <V453000> the pax trains are going to be redrawn completely
20:42:51  <V453000> the current state is just for having the code done
20:43:32  <V453000> I experiment with light all the time ... although in the diagonal views of the train it is totally hardcore
20:48:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> how do you mean?
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20:50:46  <Stablean> <V453000> hard to draw as hell
20:50:58  <Stablean> <Mazth> hehe that explains it :P
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20:51:22  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi troy
20:51:25  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
20:51:35  <Stablean> <Mazth> hey!
20:51:49  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oh, Mazth
20:52:03  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I wanted to tell you something about growing cities
20:52:13  <Stablean> <Mazth> please do
20:52:23  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try to transport more than 50% before increasinig the amount of inhabitants
20:52:34  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it's eating CPU
20:53:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that was it ;)
20:53:27  <Stablean> <Mazth> even for the buildings just being there?
20:53:45  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because of the buildings being there
20:54:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think it's between some of the rules too
20:54:24  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and since you are one of the people most suffering from bad connection...
20:54:26  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> I like the japanese cities
20:55:01  <Stablean> <Mazth> yeah no local only unless for growth and aim for 50% transported at least
20:55:13  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> y
20:55:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> my connection is not that bad...my cpu is :P but I get the point
20:56:26  <Stablean> <Mazth> my aim is ofc always to transport as much pax as possible, did not have the time last game :P
20:56:37  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ow, okay
20:56:51  <Stablean> <Mazth> but it is a good point :)
20:57:01  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay :)
20:57:11  <Stablean> <Mazth> enough ppl have problems connecting in later stages
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21:13:30  <Stablean> <Mazth>  @@gap(3)
21:13:30  <Webster> Stablean: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
21:13:46  <Stablean> <Mazth>  @@(gap 3)
21:13:47  <Webster> Stablean: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
21:27:22  <Stablean> <V453000> I once grew a 300k city with 1000 non-order busses on one server :D
21:27:24  <Stablean> <V453000> active trolling
21:27:42  <Stablean> <V453000> it was actually with cargodist, and each of the busses managed to turn a lot of profit
21:27:44  <Stablean> <V453000> idk how
21:28:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> =) ordeless  city growing is fun, esp with RVs because their pathing is crazy
21:29:03  <Stablean> <Mazth> I did a orderless tramway couple of games ago but that is a lot easier because you can direct traffic a lot easier
21:29:28  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont really need to direct traffic, you just need enough RVs :D
21:29:41  <Stablean> <Mazth> hehe
21:29:47  <Stablean> <Mazth> true true
21:30:25  <Stablean> <Mazth> man pax generation is crazy..I wanted to just derp around but now I can even get all the pax away
21:31:03  <Stablean> <V453000> 35 pax per wagon is ridiculous
21:31:46  <Stablean> <V453000> original trains are really weak in city centers, with 40 pax per wagon if I remember correctly
21:31:49  <Stablean> <Mazth> yh that is not too much
21:32:12  <Stablean> <V453000> this thing  goes 120kmh and has 35?
21:32:20  <Stablean> <V453000> that just cant work
21:32:30  <Stablean> <Mazth> might need to go tropic...it has a 55 wagon
21:32:37  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah at least
21:32:59  <Stablean> <V453000> idk I am quite happy about the doubling of nuts capacities
21:34:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> it is working nicely :) and the smaller capacity for mono and maglev makes it not overpowered
21:34:39  <Stablean> <Mazth> it is really a choice you have to make...speed vs capacity
21:35:13  <Stablean> <Mazth> uuh there is a 60 capacity wagon on UKRS
21:37:20  <Stablean> <Mazth> hmm max 112 speed for 60 capacity
21:37:23  <Stablean> <V453000> well the general problem is that most train sets usually do not have too high capacities of passengers, and even if I ignore capacities, most train sets have so poorly accelerating intercity trains that it makes it tough already
21:37:57  <Stablean> <V453000> and if you need a big network for a medium sized city, it totally will look more like rail heaven than a town
21:38:29  <Stablean> <Mazth> hehe yeah...but that is where trams can come in
21:38:52  <Stablean> <V453000> still, the trams are probably just a transfer to trains again
21:39:10  <Stablean> <Mazth> yeah
21:39:12  <Stablean> <V453000> and besides, trams are cute but rather dull to build
21:39:35  <Stablean> <V453000> a good Sbahn should really be trains only
21:39:50  <Stablean> <Mazth> trams are pretty hax :)
21:39:56  <Stablean> <Mazth> and totally cute
21:40:14  <Stablean> <Mazth> no pax engines in tropic set?
21:40:25  <Stablean> <V453000> no only the CT60
21:40:39  <Stablean> <V453000> and one more,  the old one from like 1922 or when
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21:41:02  <Stablean> <V453000> 1932
21:41:04  <Stablean> <V453000> the Rmd 55
21:41:12  <Stablean> <Mazth> ah yh I see it
21:41:14  <Stablean> <V453000> could call that a pax engine I guess :d
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21:43:36  <Stablean> <Mazth> lol auto minitrains :P
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21:50:44  <Stablean> <Shadi> Fail
21:50:58  <Stablean> <Shadi> Train 21
21:51:26  <Stablean> <Shadi> Cameron
21:51:46  <Stablean> <Shadi> Why build nonprojct train line
21:51:52  <Stablean> <Shadi> with no passenger?
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22:00:02  <Stablean> <Mazth> you can set your name also in the multiplayer screen
22:00:12  <Stablean> <Mazth> top righthand corner
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22:26:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> lol great
22:26:27  <Stablean> <Mazth> hope I don t die :P
22:26:38  <Stablean> <V453000> what :D
22:26:48  <Stablean> <Mazth> minor fault
22:27:18  <Stablean> <Mazth> anyone has some spare money?
22:27:41  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how much doo u whot
22:27:45  <Stablean> <Mazth> 50k
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22:27:59  <Stablean> <V453000> thanks guys :p
22:28:01  <Stablean> <Mazth> hax!
22:28:07  <Stablean> <Mazth> thanks
22:28:17  <Stablean> <Paranoid> Im not abble to push my raiting in a town -.-
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22:28:34  <Stablean> <Cameron> where
22:28:36  <Stablean> <Paranoid> allready planted new trees all around
22:28:40  <Stablean> <Paranoid> Brondingsville
22:28:58  <Stablean> <Cameron> you're not supposed to be there in the first place
22:29:13  <Stablean> <Paranoid> why ?
22:29:20  <Stablean> <Cameron> that town is being used by someone else
22:29:46  <Stablean> <Paranoid> I set only 1 train there
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22:29:51  <Stablean> <Cameron> if you're going to enter a town you must ask the person who was there first premission
22:29:51  <Stablean> <Paranoid> for selling goods, nothing else
22:29:59  <Stablean> <Cameron> doesn't matter
22:30:17  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ach ok and then ?
22:30:35  <Stablean> <Cameron> that person may say yes or no.
22:30:43  <Stablean> <Paranoid> and this makes ?
22:30:53  <Stablean> <Mazth> thanks for the loan!
22:30:56  <Stablean> <Mazth> back on track
22:30:58  <Stablean> <Cameron> it's one of the rules see !rules
22:31:00  <Stablean> <Paranoid> I mean its your town .. xD
22:31:08  <Stablean> <Cameron> it is my town
22:31:16  <Stablean> <Paranoid> I didnt know the rules, sorry
22:31:30  <Stablean> <Cameron> no worries, just read them :)
22:31:33  <Stablean> <Paranoid> so, can I ? (:
22:31:50  <Stablean> <Paranoid> yes, I will
22:31:50  <Stablean> <Cameron> i guess
22:31:57  <Stablean> <Paranoid> ok thanks, only this train station, nothing more
22:32:01  <Stablean> <Mazth> man this set does not love pax
22:32:16  <Stablean> <Phillip> It loves freight.
22:32:26  <Stablean> <Paranoid> and how can I push my rating ?
22:32:28  <Stablean> <Mazth> or fast loading and next to no capacity or long loading and decent capacity :S
22:32:50  <Stablean> <Mazth> well lets wait till I can get the ct60 :)
22:33:05  <Stablean> <Mazth> ukrs is a nice set :)
22:33:11  <Stablean> <Mazth> class 91 ftw
22:33:26  <Stablean> <Mazth> and the masai is also a good endgame engine
22:33:52  <Stablean> <V453000> it is nicely drawn but UKRS2 works pretty terribly I think
22:34:04  <Stablean> <V453000> 1900-1940 is fun
22:34:34  <Stablean> <Paranoid> cameron, can you help me ?
22:34:37  <Stablean> <V453000> UKRS 3.04 is a lot better
22:34:47  <Stablean> <Cameron> by
22:34:50  <Stablean> <Paranoid> I cannot reise my rating in this town, so I cannot sell my goods
22:35:04  <Stablean> <V453000> actually I think UKRS 3.04 is the best train set, of course after nuts from my point of view
22:35:10  <Stablean> <Mazth> :P
22:35:24  <Stablean> <Mazth> why don t we have ukrs 3.04?
22:35:38  <Stablean> <Cameron> now let it grow
22:35:45  <Stablean> <V453000> we had it 2 games ago afaik
22:36:24  <Stablean> <V453000> it is just a completely different game, UKRS2 basically requires nutracks to work at least reasonably ... and nutracks themselves make the game different
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22:40:38  <Stablean> <Mazth> bye V
22:41:07  <V453000> not going anywhere :P
22:41:13  <Stablean> <Cameron> >)
22:41:19  <V453000> YOU WANTED ME OFF!
22:41:20  <V453000> :p
22:41:27  <Stablean> <Cameron> lol
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22:41:56  <Stablean> <Mazth> just though that you were going :P
22:42:46  <Stablean> <Mazth> hmm I should not mess up my only source of income this often :P
22:43:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> go trams save me!
22:43:56  <V453000> :D
22:44:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> had to turn off the transfer :P
22:44:23  <Stablean> <Mazth> and it is cutting it very very close
22:45:25  <Stablean> <Mazth> how long can u be in the red?
22:45:31  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> nooooo
22:45:37  <Stablean> <Mazth> oh shhhhiiit
22:45:43  <Stablean> <Phillip> Until it goes too low.
22:46:02  <V453000> no it is just some time, half a year? or a full year, not sure
22:46:04  <Stablean> <Mazth> awwwh  thanks
22:46:23  <Stablean> <Mazth> was getting in the + already
22:47:12  <V453000> lies
22:47:20  <Stablean> <Mazth> I never lie
22:47:46  <Stablean> <Mazth> (but that would be a lie ofc ;))
22:48:30  <Stablean> <Mazth> hmm my pax got rotten during the crisis...now ppl won t pay for them =(
22:48:37  <Stablean> <Cameron> :P
22:52:04  <Stablean> <Mazth> so that is better
23:02:42  <Stablean> <Mazth> the end has come!
23:02:48  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> :D!!
23:02:52  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> Well done kittenpeach
23:02:58  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> :P
23:12:17  <Stablean> <Mazth> a mazth always pays his depts :P
23:12:35  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep thanks
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23:19:58  <Stablean> <Mazth> wooohooo
23:20:00  <Stablean> <Mazth> fail!
23:20:02  <Stablean> <Mazth> =(
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23:28:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>   good night  all have fun
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23:28:20  <Stablean> <Mazth> nightnight
23:28:22  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> nn
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23:29:13  <Stablean> <Mazth> well gonna call it a day too
23:29:16  <Stablean> <Mazth> ciaociao!
23:29:19  <Stablean> <Mazth> sleep well
23:29:26  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> nn :)
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