Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 1st August 2012:
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01:16:29  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Anson.
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02:25:24  <DiAbL0> hello
02:25:38  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Diablo.
02:26:02  <DiAbL0> when will the map reset?
02:26:20  <Stablean> <Phillip> I don't know. 2300+?
02:26:54  <DiAbL0> this must b the longest game yet
02:27:05  <Stablean> <Phillip> So far...
02:31:21  <DiAbL0> done much?
02:31:35  <Stablean> <Phillip> Trams at Maninghall.
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06:33:50  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
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06:34:07  <Stablean> <Anson> i need protection from myself :-) :-(
06:34:44  <DiAbL0> can u plz spectate and rejoin ur compamy after my next attempt?
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06:36:04  <Stablean> <Anson> spectating, paused
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06:36:32  <Stablean> <Diablo> hello, u can rejoin now
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06:36:56  <Stablean> <Diablo> thanks
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06:37:44  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, can that be done by any player ?
06:37:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> yes
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06:38:06  <Stablean> <Anson> then there is no need to spectate
06:38:33  <Stablean> <Diablo> didnt know about the pause command
06:39:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i need protection against my self !!! ;-(
06:39:17  <Stablean> <Anson> almost went bancrupt a short time ago
06:40:03  <Stablean> <Diablo> did the to b sold news pop up?
06:40:42  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the sign "OUCH" .... reserved some tiles when rebuilding my town and station ... and accidentally clicked on that "OUCH" tile
06:41:12  <Stablean> <Anson> after clicking that tile, i had only a few millions cash left ....
06:41:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> u blew up water
06:41:52  <Stablean> <Diablo> :(
06:41:58  <Stablean> <Anson> spent 1300 millions for that accidental click :-(
06:42:10  <V453000> >:)
06:42:46  <Stablean> <Diablo> ur property maintenance for 2278 is 1.3bn
06:43:57  <Stablean> <Anson> for autorenew/replace, there is some setting to keep some minimum cash ... would be nice to have some other setting too, for a warning when spending more than xxx money, or spendingso much money that less than xxx remains
06:44:39  <Stablean> <Diablo> that would be an awesome feature
06:45:17  <Stablean> <Anson> in "normal" games, that setting might not be very useful, but with modified base costs it might be useful
06:45:21  <V453000> :D
06:45:44  <V453000> well you could set clear_max_burst to 0
06:45:50  <V453000> which means you couldnt remove water
06:46:03  <V453000> unfortunately you couldnt also remove grass nor terraform anything therefore :D
06:51:52  <Stablean> <Anson> it happened when i destroyed a town owned bridge and immediately bought that tile before the town could place a new house there ... but it was a diagonal tile ....
06:52:50  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : towns like to build something on diagonal tiles .. must be pretty rich towns ingame :-)
06:53:53  <Stablean> <Anson> last item my town built was a park with a lake (!) on a diagonal tile :-)
06:56:13  <Stablean> <Diablo> bbl
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08:06:44  <Stablean> <Dom> hello
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08:20:08  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, Dom
08:20:18  <Stablean> <Dom> servus :)
08:20:32  <Stablean> <Dom> whats up?
08:20:56  <Stablean> <Anson> Fell asleep while waiting for a station to clear pax ... restarted rebuilding this morning ... how do you like my islands now ?
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08:21:08  <Stablean> <Dom> much better :D
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08:21:37  <Stablean> <Anson> removed the maglev between the two half-islands and replaced it with the doublehead station :-)
08:21:54  <Stablean> <Dom> yeah saw that
08:22:04  <Stablean> <Anson> also added a second tunnel, and soon will change orders of the two roubndtrips
08:22:08  <Stablean> <Dom> your island looks like it has a subway :D
08:22:54  <Stablean> <Anson> but it's hard to connect the northern ends of tunnels and Plefingford without flattening something
08:24:09  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, the subway station is a fake ... really just connected/identical to another station nearby
08:24:23  <Stablean> <Dom> i know
08:24:41  <Stablean> <Dom> but it still looks cool :D
08:24:48  <Stablean> <Anson> but with eye candy, it should look like a spot to park and then take a station in the tunnel right below it
08:25:33  <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice if that could be done for real
08:25:49  <Stablean> <Dom> in pax games yes but not in cargo ones
08:26:35  <Stablean> <Anson> a special station (variant of bus or truck stops) which has a tunnel exit, block signal and tunnel entrance on a single tile (or maybe 3 tiles) right below it
08:27:42  <Stablean> <Anson> also in cargo games, it would be really nice to deliver food, goods and valuables to existing towns without need to station walk or destroy half an existing town
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08:28:18  <Stablean> <Dom> well, what do you mean? how else can you build something in a big city
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08:28:34  <Stablean> <Dom> you will need to destroy something
08:28:49  <Stablean> <Dom> i don't find station walking bad (pax game)
08:29:47  <Stablean> <Anson> that was my idea about a completely new feature in ottd ... an additional bus/truck station type to the current pass through stations and oldstyle stations
08:31:09  <Stablean> <Anson> a station which can be put in towns, and which has some building as graphics above the earth, and is treated like tunnel end, block signal, station, signal, tunnel start underground
08:31:43  <Stablean> <Dom> hmm try it make a grf and let's test it D:
08:31:45  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
08:32:00  <Stablean> <Anson> you wuld have to build such a station and then can build a tunnel from the edge of town to that station, or you can build a tunnel first and then put such a station on top of that tunnel
08:32:22  <Stablean> <Dom> or you can make the station
08:32:24  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't know whather that would work with a grf, or a real patch would be needed
08:32:34  <Stablean> <Dom> and then excavate so you can tunnel it
08:37:53  <Stablean> <Anson> short break ... need to format a 64 GB storage from NTFS to FAT32 ...
08:38:03  <Stablean> <Dom> xD ok hf :D
08:39:05  <Stablean> <Anson> was a cheap offer, but to use it, it has to be FAT32 ... thus need to repartition and format
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08:39:23  <Stablean> <Anson> what are storage prices where you live ?
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08:39:51  <Stablean> <Dom> on what do you mean? hard disk? or ftp?
08:39:57  <Stablean> <Anson> USB
08:40:09  <Stablean> <Anson> I'll pause for diablo to join ....
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08:40:18  <Stablean> <Dom> hard disk's should be the same because we have the same strores (saturn, mediamarkt ) and so on
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08:40:49  <Stablean> <Diablo> thx anson
08:40:51  <Stablean> <Anson> 64 GB USB stick at Mediamarkt :-) ... what's the price at your store ?
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08:41:08  <Stablean> <Dom> idk xD
08:41:10  <Stablean> <Dom> hey diablo
08:41:18  <Stablean> <Diablo> hi dom
08:41:36  <Stablean> <Dom> anyways i gtgo too
08:41:38  <Stablean> <Dom> bb :)
08:41:46  <Stablean> <Anson> 16 GB stick was 16-18 last year and half a year ago ... now i got 64 GB stick for 30 :-)
08:42:00  <Stablean> <Dom> nice, yeah it's about the same price here
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09:01:30  <Stablean> <Diablo> brb
09:05:09  <Stablean> <Diablo> back
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09:08:47  <Stablean> <Diablo> i hope this map lasts for another 16 hours
09:10:25  <Stablean> <V453000> hu
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09:11:27  <Stablean> <Anson> i won't build big things here, but it's nice to spend lots of time on eye candy, programming trains, and other minor changes
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10:13:45  <Stablean> <Anson> got the timeout countdown lts of times, up to 15 or 18, and once 20/kicked
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10:14:38  <Stablean> <Diablo> timeout countdown?
10:14:57  <Stablean> <Anson> the red warning/error message window
10:15:38  <Stablean> <Diablo> client/server latency error?
10:15:39  <Stablean> <Anson> warns about not getting data, and counts to 20 ... either data resumed, or you lose con
10:16:04  <Stablean> <Anson> just again ... 10 seconds this time
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10:19:57  <Stablean> <Diablo> gd nite
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11:28:35  <Stablean> <Dom> servus :D
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11:55:20  <Stablean> <Dom> hi [FR]Syl59
11:55:43  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi Dom
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11:56:53  <Stablean> <Dom> good :)
11:56:59  <Stablean> <Dom> doing some city works in gph
11:57:01  <Stablean> <Dom> and have to wait
11:59:00  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
11:59:23  <Stablean> <Anson> ein self de-regulating network :-)
11:59:25  <Stablean> <Dom> :D i know syl :D
11:59:43  <Stablean> <Dom> "de-regulating* xD
11:59:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> de-regulated ? :)
12:00:09  <Stablean> <Dom> well yes
12:00:19  <Stablean> <Dom> anson is building that xDD kind of
12:00:42  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, it was intended that metro normally takes a tour of the southern island only, unkloading partially filled trains in Plenf Valley
12:01:00  <Stablean> <Dom> btw Syl i just have to pull one more street and make some ghosts than im finished with gph
12:01:23  <Stablean> <Anson> and when trains were 100% full, they would go to the final destinaion themselves ... quite a good idea and worked, EXCEPT
12:01:42  <Stablean> <Dom> except?
12:02:10  <Stablean> <Anson> EXCEPT that that took trains from the roundtrip for a bit, and stations started to fill up, even those which never filled up usually
12:02:28  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
12:02:58  <Stablean> <Anson> had to skip the first few stations and insert those directly unloading trains" in the middle of the roundtrip, and now they can take care of all stations again
12:05:00  <Stablean> <Dom> thanks :D
12:05:03  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What do you want to do at GPH ?
12:05:59  <Stablean> <Dom> so :D finished
12:06:05  <Stablean> <Dom> why?
12:06:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ?
12:06:17  <Stablean> <Dom> the bridges?
12:06:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Just for fun xD
12:06:29  <Stablean> <Dom> ok :D
12:07:44  <Stablean> <Dom> gph redone :D
12:07:58  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> How destroyu my flip flop near CHC ? :)
12:08:32  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I think CB did that, but never mind
12:08:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I see a new method to balance correctly the train now ;)
12:08:48  <Stablean> <Dom> MFH has a main station now
12:08:54  <Stablean> <Dom> yes?
12:09:16  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ?
12:09:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Yes MSH as a station and ? :)
12:09:26  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> has *
12:09:33  <Stablean> <Dom> the balancer? you mean the signals
12:10:44  <Stablean> <Dom> look at my fail safe :D
12:12:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ?
12:13:20  <Stablean> <Dom> [FR]Syl59:  sign fixed /Dp, next to rudinghall
12:13:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What the heck is that ? xD
12:14:43  <Stablean> <Dom> it's my version of a fail safe :D
12:14:49  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Ah ok, i'*t's like a mlini balancer ? :)
12:14:59  <Stablean> <Dom> yes :)
12:19:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Now it work ;p
12:20:09  <Stablean> <Dom> nice :D
12:23:13  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I don't like TWL station ://
12:23:31  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> It can be difficult to modify it if it jam
12:26:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> btw , why CB use 2-way exit pre-signals ?
12:27:14  <Stablean> <Dom> idk
12:27:28  <Stablean> <Dom> yeah TWL got big :D
12:28:55  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Cb Build beautiful station :)
12:29:02  <Stablean> <Dom> where?
12:29:16  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Where they are japanese station
12:33:39  <Stablean> <Dom> -.-
12:34:21  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
12:34:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi
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12:34:27  <Stablean> <Dom> hi V453000
12:34:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What Dom ?
12:34:37  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh ... you build it ?
12:34:39  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
12:35:05  <Stablean> <Dom> build what?
12:35:24  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Tha station what i'm talking about
12:35:30  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> like at ...
12:35:32  <Stablean> <Dom> which?
12:35:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> TWL
12:35:45  <Stablean> <V453000> undead town ^^
12:35:47  <Stablean> <Dom> i didn't build TWL
12:35:57  <Stablean> <Dom> Datbridge :D
12:36:23  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> xDDD
12:36:54  <Stablean> <Dom> btw im gonna grow CSE a bit today ;)
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12:40:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I's long to wait ...
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12:44:47  <Stablean> <V453000> no it is just linked to the same string
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12:48:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i like the "strange" engines in nuts ... too bad that the slug is a new (late game) engine and has low stats only (half the speed, half the power, less capacity), and that organi power, dark energy, uranium, etc are considered electric engines
12:49:56  <Stablean> <Anson> would be fun to make a map that ancourages people to use those engines (eg by setting  running costs for steam/diesel/electric), and have more of them like centipeds or whatever :-)
12:50:14  <Stablean> <Dom> gtgo
12:50:16  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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12:53:52  <Stablean> <V453000> running costs are completely ignored
12:53:58  <Stablean> <V453000> they arent important at all
12:54:04  <Stablean> <V453000> openttd just isnt about money
12:54:11  <Stablean> <V453000> and cant be, with the way how it works currently
12:54:55  <Stablean> <V453000> slug is getting some changes too btw
12:58:49  <Stablean> <Anson> it all depends and is relative :-) .... setting steam costs to 1/16 and electric to 32x can cause a big difference ... making -4 mil with maglev, and +7 mil per year with steam ... even using nuts
12:59:51  <Stablean> <V453000> considering you probably profit like 50 millions, you absolutely dont care
12:59:53  <Stablean> <V453000> or more
13:00:01  <Stablean> <V453000> but that isnt the point
13:00:03  <Stablean> <Anson> that's how i noticed that the organic energy of the slug, uranium, mindmeting energy, dark energy, etc, all are only electric ...
13:00:37  <Stablean> <V453000> it doesnt matter if the comparison is 1:100 or 1:2 (half running costs of profit) or whatever. The point is that making a profittable network is utterly trivial
13:00:47  <Stablean> <V453000> and has only one rule - distance
13:00:53  <Stablean> <V453000> you could add train speed, too
13:01:24  <Stablean> <V453000> if you played only for profit, all you would do is connect farthest combinations of industries, done
13:01:27  <Stablean> <V453000> anyone can do that
13:04:56  <Stablean> <Anson> in general, you are right ... i seem to pick always strange cases where something else can apply, like a smaller test map (or a bigger with islands), and the modified base costs causing steam to have 20k$ running costs while maglev has 600k$ ...
13:06:30  <Stablean> <Anson> quite a challenge in the early and midgame, when you need 60 mil $ income just for the running costs of 100 trains which partially are waiting and not travelling long distance
13:07:06  <Stablean> <V453000> my point is
13:07:07  <Stablean> <V453000> ther are only 2 options
13:07:18  <Stablean> <V453000> you A: make money, B: bankrupt
13:07:19  <Stablean> <Anson> if course, that all depends on parameter settings only, like extreme base costs etc
13:07:31  <Stablean> <V453000> question how much money you make only makes the game slower or faster
13:07:45  <Stablean> <V453000> but doesnt change the logic of the game
13:10:31  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, think of the people who always start games by building airports or ports and doing long distance transport ... they have to adjust quite a lot when they play here :-)
13:11:16  <Stablean> <Anson> same also applies when setting steam to very cheap and electric to very costly ... in those games, maglev is almost like ships here :-)
13:14:04  <Stablean> <Anson> of course, it can be palayed and doesn't change the game itself, but it still can be a challenge to adjust to new conditions
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15:26:45  <Stablean> <Dom> im back :D
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15:49:27  <Stablean> <Dom> hello [FR]Syl59
15:49:27  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi Dom
15:49:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> CSE has grown a bit
15:49:52  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and hello all
15:51:47  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> nothing to do on bthe Public server ?
15:51:53  <Stablean> <Dom> idk looks like that xD
15:52:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> In one word : "nothing". Am I correct , :D
15:52:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ? *
15:52:44  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
15:52:58  <Stablean> <Dom> you can grow metro islands here :D
15:53:20  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> A new map will be better for the other I think
15:53:30  <Stablean> <Dom> for public?
15:53:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> nah, for here :)
15:53:59  <Stablean> <Dom> yeah on friday :D
15:54:21  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh ... I will not be here on Friday
15:54:31  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and during the 3 floowing weeks too
15:54:33  <Stablean> <Dom> me neither for 2,5 weeks
15:54:35  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
15:54:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ^^
15:54:57  <Stablean> <Dom> going on holiday?
15:55:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> yep
15:55:10  <Stablean> <Dom> nice :)
15:55:16  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> :)
15:57:47  <Stablean> <Dom> whats happening in sfp?
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16:04:37  <Stablean> *** Dom has paused the server.
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16:05:08  <Stablean> <Dom> where is he now...
16:05:42  <Stablean> <Dom> well
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16:05:48  <Stablean> <Dom> 5
16:05:50  <Stablean> <Dom> 4
16:05:50  <Stablean> <Dom> 3
16:05:52  <Stablean> <Dom> 2
16:05:52  <Stablean> <Dom> 1
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16:06:00  <Stablean> <Dom> hi Phillip
16:06:06  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi people.
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16:09:45  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi philip
16:10:07  <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi frsyl59.
16:11:05  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> i'm bored xD
16:11:12  <Stablean> <Phillip> me too
16:11:34  <Stablean> <Dom> m2 :D
16:15:22  <Stablean> <Phillip> Lol logic trains.
16:15:22  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
16:15:48  <Stablean> <Phillip> The ones your company just built.
16:15:49  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> sign !bored
16:15:59  <Stablean> <Phillip> I was already at it.
16:16:25  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> xDDD
16:16:29  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
16:22:32  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> is it better with maglev ? :)
16:22:39  <Stablean> <Dom> faster :D
16:23:18  <Stablean> <Phillip> When you follow one of them, you are more likely to become dizzy because of the logic trains.
16:23:32  <Stablean> <Phillip> I choose maglev.
16:24:30  <Stablean> <Phillip> lol more logics
16:26:41  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
16:27:08  <Stablean> <Phillip> train 435 is stopped also
16:42:47  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> PAX can be a good thing to do SNRW
16:43:06  <Stablean> <Dom> we can do that  :D
16:43:16  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Not now ! xD
16:43:26  <Stablean> <Dom> well i know that
16:43:37  <Stablean> <Dom> maybe on public? PAX SRNW
16:43:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Can you show us how it work ? :)
16:43:50  <Stablean> <Dom> who?
16:43:57  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> you
16:44:03  <Stablean> <Dom> what a srn?
16:44:09  <Stablean> <Dom> *srnw?
16:44:19  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> yep
16:44:25  <Stablean> <Dom> now?
16:44:31  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> YES xD
16:44:38  <Stablean> <Dom> the thing is idk how to do it with multiple drops
16:45:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oh i forgot that thing, I don't ask to you to transform our network
16:45:14  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I ask to you if you can build a small snrw
16:45:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> and not corrupt the municipality 8)
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16:46:49  <Stablean> <V453000> important point for pax srnw is that drop == pickup :)
16:47:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hi V xD
16:47:10  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
16:47:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hum ... maybe we can relaise that with a specific order huh ?
16:47:46  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> like unload and load
16:47:57  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> but how to do for multiple drop point ?
16:48:17  <Stablean> <V453000> well that is the fun :)
16:48:28  <Stablean> <V453000> see psg 207 for example
16:48:38  <Stablean> <V453000> other options in games like 157
16:48:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Oki
16:49:00  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I will donwlaod, all the savegame of the public server xD
16:49:19  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I just realisez that I was a noob on TTD xD
16:51:04  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> wh'ats the goal of the actual game on the public server btw ?
16:51:28  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> except building a network with thousand of trains and no jam ?
16:54:18  <Stablean> <V453000> servicing all stations perfectly
16:54:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> What do you mean ?
16:54:50  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> 'cause this is ... "simple"
16:55:09  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> (if I understand correctly what it is)
16:56:20  <Stablean> <Dom> that's it
16:56:54  <Stablean> <V453000> ?
16:57:05  <Stablean> <Dom> the srnw
16:57:11  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Dom is showing me how it work
16:57:17  <Stablean> <V453000> what are we talking about atm
16:58:38  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> everything work with implicite order
16:58:40  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
16:58:50  <Stablean> <Dom> only order is the invisble waypoint
16:58:56  <Stablean> <Dom> they try to reach but cannot
16:59:10  <Stablean> <V453000> oh right about 207
16:59:36  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> see the sign Dom
16:59:39  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> please :)
16:59:39  <Stablean> <V453000> well the aim of that is to have fun doing a pax game, focus on cities and have a simple self maintaining mainline
17:01:21  <Stablean> <Dom> i know
17:01:24  <Stablean> <Dom> i told you :)
17:01:30  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ah ok :)
17:02:28  <Stablean> <Dom> normaly you need a feeder at every station
17:02:38  <Stablean> <Dom> because trains are not allowed into drop if they are empty
17:02:42  <Stablean> <V453000> that is what the city network is for
17:02:44  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> even for PAX ?
17:02:50  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
17:03:17  <Stablean> <V453000> of course you could do a 1->X flipflop with X stations in the city
17:03:19  <Stablean> <V453000> and no transfers
17:03:50  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> With no transfer .
17:03:53  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> ?
17:03:59  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> er ... well
17:04:01  <Stablean> <Dom> yes but it's more interesting having locals and then feed the station so every trains gets full
17:04:32  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I was imaging a network with local and metro, so tranfer is necessery there ...
17:04:35  <Stablean> <Dom> the thing is the bigger the drop the harder to build
17:04:41  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> anyway, I will look at psg 207
17:04:41  <Stablean> <Dom> it is
17:04:52  <Stablean> <Dom> but still you need feeder trains at pick stations
17:05:02  <Stablean> <Dom> so every trains leaves completly full
17:05:14  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Wait, why do you say taht, about the drop station ?
17:05:41  <Stablean> <Dom> because i've seen it on the last public server game :D
17:06:54  <Stablean> <Dom> drop is to small xD
17:07:22  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> expand it ! xd
17:07:42  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
17:07:56  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I don't see the difficulty here, exept the space  .... :)
17:08:11  <Stablean> <Dom> on small scale it's easy
17:08:21  <Stablean> <Dom> but on huge scale xD alot of logic
17:08:39  <Stablean> <Dom> anyways i gtgo now :)
17:08:45  <Stablean> <Dom> i'll be back in the evening
17:08:47  <Stablean> <Dom> bb
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17:09:29  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> bb
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17:24:48  <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> have to go
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17:37:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hiiiiiiii
17:38:52  <Stablean> <V453000> hi hi
17:39:04  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Suprised this game is still here :P
17:39:54  <Stablean> <V453000> maybe not for long I guess :)
17:39:58  <Stablean> <V453000> anyway I have new nuts almost done
17:40:24  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Whats 'new' about it? :P
17:40:55  <Stablean> <V453000> all the changes we discussed yesterday
17:41:06  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Oh
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18:15:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
18:15:57  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
18:23:21  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> -dinner-
18:23:22  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Enjoy :P
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18:55:28  <Stablean> <V453000> hu
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18:55:31  <Stablean> <Dom> hi V
18:55:33  <Chris_Booth> hi
18:55:40  <Stablean> <Dom> hi chris
18:55:48  <Stablean> <V453000> new nuts available ^^
18:55:48  <Chris_Booth> same map as yesterday?
18:55:50  <Stablean> <Dom> yay :D
18:55:53  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
18:55:57  <Stablean> <V453000> what do you want for the next game?
18:55:58  <Chris_Booth> win
18:56:01  <Chris_Booth> pax
18:56:08  <Stablean> <Dom> yes pax :D
18:56:08  <Chris_Booth> but less towns
18:56:12  <Stablean> <V453000> alright
18:56:23  <Stablean> <V453000> meybyyy tropic?
18:56:30  <Stablean> <Dom> or toy?
18:56:40  <Stablean> <Dom> tropic without cargo is hard
18:56:45  <Chris_Booth> tropic is hard
18:56:55  <Stablean> <V453000> mhm that is true
18:57:00  <Chris_Booth> unless we have food and water
18:57:03  <Stablean> <Dom> toyland :D
18:57:13  <Chris_Booth> toyland is fun
18:57:30  <Chris_Booth> or temperate with less towns but 20 station spread
18:57:38  <Chris_Booth> so we get some bigger Metros
18:57:41  <Stablean> <V453000> temperate sounds reasonable
18:57:42  <Stablean> <Dom> more spread?
18:57:46  <Stablean> <Dom> than 20 :D
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18:58:11  <Stablean> <Dom> let's make it 30
18:59:54  <Chris_Booth> no 30 is a bit to much
18:59:56  <Chris_Booth> and people will just cheat
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19:10:04  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
19:10:10  <Stablean> <Phillip> ?
19:10:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> check out Rabourne
19:11:06  <Stablean> <Phillip> Yeah I saw the logic systems Dom and Syl built.
19:11:16  <V453000> !content
19:11:18  <Stablean> V453000: Connection established
19:11:22  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
19:11:23  <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
19:11:26  <V453000> !getsave
19:11:32  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
19:11:33  <V453000> !content
19:11:36  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
19:11:40  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
19:11:40  <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
19:11:46  <V453000> !content
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19:11:54  <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
19:11:59  <V453000> !content
19:12:01  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
19:12:03  <Stablean> V453000: Downloading 3 file(s) (1896826 bytes)
19:12:03  <Stablean> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded)
19:12:09  <V453000> !content
19:12:11  <Stablean> V453000: Expect timeout triggered!
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19:12:18  <V453000> k im ready
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19:12:30  <V453000> G_G?
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19:12:34  <Chris_Booth> yes
19:12:36  <V453000> !restart
19:12:36  <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
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19:12:39  <Stablean> <Phillip> laggy laggy lag lag
19:12:51  <Stablean> <Dom> good by nice map :D
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19:13:02  <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.2.1.
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19:14:25  <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-)
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19:14:33  <V453000> !rcon cd 3
19:14:36  <V453000> !rcon load 2
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19:15:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oooh japan
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19:17:54  <Stablean> <Dom> hello :D
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19:18:05  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
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19:20:43  <Stablean> <Dom> who wants to coop?
19:21:05  <Stablean> <V453000> you can join me if yoiu want to but I dont think I will have much money atm
19:21:35  <Stablean> <Dom> ok (im only gonna play till tomorow evening :D then im going on holiday)
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19:22:47  <Stablean> <Dom> so what's the plan?
19:23:01  <Stablean> <V453000> connecting farthest towns atm
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19:27:46  <Stablean> <V453000> I severely hate those station names btw
19:28:00  <Stablean> <Dom> but its easier to group everything
19:28:05  <Stablean> <V453000> dont need grouping
19:28:08  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
19:28:10  <Stablean> <V453000> it is all going to be rebuilt anyway
19:29:04  <Stablean> <V453000> especially not that grouping
19:29:26  <Stablean> <V453000> I want to do something like psg 192
19:29:38  <Stablean> <Dom> ok i'll check it out
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19:38:46  <Stablean> <Dom> so that means local only with tram and buses
19:38:52  <Stablean> <V453000> no
19:39:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> bk
19:39:38  <Stablean> <Dom> wb
19:39:52  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> TL4 this time?
19:39:56  <Stablean> <V453000> I do
19:40:02  <Stablean> <V453000> but I stay on this small island
19:40:05  <Stablean> <V453000> doubt it would be enough fory ou
19:40:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> why do you say that?
19:40:35  <Stablean> <V453000> I expect more people to join you? :)
19:40:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
19:41:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I might change my password this time
19:41:07  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
19:41:21  <Stablean> <V453000> if you want to do bidirectional transfer in the middle, join me
19:41:24  <Stablean> <Dom> lol psg 192 has some weird sounds
19:41:46  <Stablean> <Dom> so you want a big main in the middle one for east part and one for west?
19:41:54  <Stablean> <V453000> +-
19:42:07  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
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19:46:05  <Stablean> <Dom> cb may i join you again? :D
19:46:31  <Stablean> <Dom> V im not quite sure how i could be of any help xD
19:46:42  <Stablean> <V453000> nothing to do now really
19:47:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> join me Dom
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19:47:32  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
19:47:32  <Stablean> <Dom> lag lag
19:47:42  <Stablean> <Phillip> more lag
19:47:48  <Stablean> <Phillip> again
19:48:06  <Stablean> <V453000> server on fire
19:48:07  <Stablean> <V453000> too many trains
19:48:07  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
19:48:11  <Stablean> <Phillip> and again
19:48:19  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> on ps V453000?
19:48:29  <Stablean> <V453000> is there lag on ps?
19:48:39  <Stablean> <V453000> no. -> deduction
19:48:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> not been there this week
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19:49:52  <Stablean> <V453000> 2x firestarter? :D crazy bastards
19:49:54  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I got the trains wrong
19:50:14  <Stablean> <V453000> and yes probably better with engine in the middle :)
19:50:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> was what I was thinkinh
19:50:39  <Stablean> <V453000> why x2 tho?
19:50:58  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> playing the late game
19:51:08  <Stablean> <V453000> xd
19:51:17  <Stablean> <V453000> yeah but why x2 in late game
19:51:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> want 2x loco at the end
19:51:34  <Stablean> <V453000> okay .. :)
19:51:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> unless you changed the power of the set
19:51:57  <Stablean> <V453000> read the changelog?
19:51:59  <Stablean> <Phillip> yes
19:52:02  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I don't read anything
19:52:12  <Stablean> <Phillip> I did.
19:52:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> did you increase power?
19:52:50  <Stablean> <Phillip> monorail has the fastes trains
19:52:56  <Stablean> <Phillip> fastest*
19:53:09  <Stablean> <V453000> increase power ... idk probably not
19:53:14  <Stablean> <Phillip> local monorail is slowed down
19:53:25  <Stablean> <V453000> you might be happy with maglev in the end
19:53:29  <Stablean> <V453000> with x2
19:53:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> cool
19:53:42  <Stablean> <Dom> Chris Booth:  which trains to use now?
19:54:00  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> same as I have, but with loco in the middle
19:54:15  <Stablean> <V453000> loco 2 wagons loco 2 wagons
19:54:21  <Stablean> <Dom> ok you do it :D
19:54:23  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
19:54:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> like that Dom
19:54:44  <Stablean> <Phillip> Train 2 has it.
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19:58:28  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Dom: do you see why I have made the trains like that?
20:02:12  <Stablean> <Dom> nope
20:02:33  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> when we upgrade to EMUs or DMUs you will see
20:02:39  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
20:02:50  <Stablean> <V453000> there actually arent any DMU ^^
20:03:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you ditched the DMUs?
20:03:19  <Stablean> <V453000> there werent any?
20:03:25  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
20:03:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> the intercity trains
20:03:38  <Stablean> <V453000> ah those
20:03:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
20:03:42  <Stablean> <V453000> I thought you mean local
20:03:45  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
20:21:10  <Stablean> <V453000> HOLY SHIT
20:22:01  <Stablean> <V453000> im done :)
20:22:16  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> 100% finished?
20:22:19  <Stablean> <V453000> yes
20:22:26  <Stablean> <V453000> fucked up transfer
20:22:32  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> lol
20:23:02  <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game
20:23:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Mazur
20:23:25  <Stablean> <Mazur> Hi, CB,
20:23:35  <Stablean> <Mazur> 'nother pax game, I see.
20:24:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no this is a cargo game
20:24:36  <Stablean> <Mazur> Yes, I see that.
20:26:22  <Stablean> <V453000> black numbers again :d
20:26:28  <Stablean> <V453000> k almost
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20:27:32  <Stablean> <Dom> Servus Anson
20:27:58  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
20:28:08  <Stablean> <Anson> new map just started !?
20:28:14  <Stablean> <Dom> yep
20:28:18  <Stablean> <V453000> no, about a week ago
20:28:28  <Stablean> <Dom> :)D
20:28:38  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes we have be playing turn base openttd
20:28:40  <Stablean> <Dom> )D
20:28:42  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> your turn v
20:28:58  <Stablean> <V453000> lol
20:29:10  <Stablean> <Anson> i feel like i was AFG (away from game, but at my keyboard) for a week :-(
20:29:40  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am the skat man
20:29:47  <Stablean> <Anson> only to format an usb stick ... with that crappy operating system called vista
20:30:01  <Stablean> <Dom> why do you use vista?
20:30:07  <Stablean> <Anson> and who is the walrus, CB ?
20:30:09  <Stablean> <Dom> ok i used till a month ago but still xD
20:30:23  <Stablean> <V453000> some nerds are masochistic
20:30:30  <Stablean> <Dom> indeed :D
20:30:36  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Get a mac
20:30:47  <Stablean> <Dom> vista actually works fine :D
20:30:50  <Stablean> <Dom> yeah mac hmm... we'll see
20:31:00  <Stablean> <Dom> i but too expensive for what you get
20:31:06  <Stablean> <Anson> years ago, i had an apple, but then switched to atari :-)
20:31:08  <Stablean> <Dom> shitty hardware excelent software
20:31:10  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am still trying to get my office to invest in some macs
20:31:16  <Stablean> <V453000> hmm beer or tea that is the question
20:31:20  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> beer
20:31:26  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> stupid question
20:31:33  <Stablean> <V453000> actually tea
20:31:36  <Stablean> <V453000> got cookies ^^
20:31:39  <Stablean> <Dom> beer = windows :D
20:31:50  <Stablean> <Dom> schnaps = vista xDD
20:32:52  <Stablean> <V453000> oh :> with that long distance you might also use monorail if you can keep CL4
20:33:27  <Stablean> <Anson> no matter why i am using vista, i have it and had to use it to format an usb stick ... 64 GB, and need to have FAT32 on it
20:33:42  <Stablean> <Dom> works best on vista or xp
20:34:09  <Stablean> <Anson> FAT32 has max of 32 GB volume size, thus i had to delete everything and create new volumes ...
20:34:31  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you didn't have to
20:35:09  <Stablean> <V453000> do you realize that if you put an usb disk into vista pc, you wont have ANYTHING on the disk anymore. Most likely you wont have the disk either.
20:35:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you just needed to swiss knife your hd
20:35:15  <Stablean> <Anson> what i did and what happened : delete old volume (NTFS 64 GB), create partition with 32 GB, create partition with rest, fornmat first partition, get error message "formatting couldn't be finished"
20:35:25  <Stablean> <Anson> classic and detailed error message, isn't it ????
20:35:31  <Stablean> <Dom> windows :D
20:35:39  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> get a mac
20:35:43  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> they are better
20:35:48  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> or linux
20:35:48  <Stablean> <Dom> and put windows on it
20:35:51  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no
20:35:54  <Stablean> <Dom> yes
20:35:56  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> never put windows on anything
20:36:07  <Stablean> <Dom> what about your house?
20:36:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I have to use server 2008 at work
20:36:15  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with is bad enough
20:36:21  <Stablean> <Dom> server 08 ainÄt that bad
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20:36:27  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is shit
20:36:34  <Stablean> <Anson> looking at the stick, windows showed that it was formatted with FAT32 and 64 GB ... which is impossible ... and the second volume was no longer to be seen anywhere
20:36:34  <Stablean> <Dom> why don't you use server 03?
20:36:55  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> n
20:37:01  <Stablean> <V453000> it is work, that means it doenst need a reason
20:37:03  <Stablean> <V453000> he just has to.
20:37:09  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes
20:37:35  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and server 2003 is even worse
20:37:39  <Stablean> <Dom> lol
20:37:41  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> atleast 2008 has aero
20:38:27  <Stablean> <Anson> then do it agin, same result, again, almost(!!!) same result, remove and insert the stick in between, same result, format second partition first, a little better result
20:38:37  <Stablean> <Anson> finally succeeded, but don't know why :-)
20:39:12  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I am just glad to have a job
20:39:14  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and not just be a number
20:39:53  <Stablean> <Anson> probably, i had formatted the second volume first, and i had used standard sector size, then formatted again with the desired sector size ... but when directly using that sector size, it doesn't work
20:40:07  * Mazur is a statistic.
20:40:22  * TWerkhoven[l] counts mazur
20:40:35  <Mazur> Ha, I'm counted!
20:40:59  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Mazur are you jobless :(
20:41:08  <Mazur> Decidedly so.
20:41:22  <Chris_Booth> that sucks :(
20:41:36  <Mazur> And noone was even remotely interested in hiring me elsewhere.
20:41:38  <Chris_Booth> but are you activly looking?
20:41:48  <Mazur> Not anymore, I got the message.
20:42:08  <Chris_Booth> the message?
20:42:11  <Mazur> Why torture myself needlessly, I'm not a masochist./
20:42:25  <Stablean> <Dom> have you tried a different country?
20:42:38  <Chris_Booth> or a different career
20:42:40  <Mazur> I'm too old, too expensive, and there are 10 kids just graduated for any job I might work in.
20:43:11  <Chris_Booth> what did you do Mazur?
20:43:24  <Mazur> Systems programmer Unix.
20:44:05  <Mazur> But without the paper work (diplomas).
20:44:31  <Chris_Booth> experience is more than education
20:44:37  <Mazur> 15 years epxerience doesn't count.
20:44:52  <Chris_Booth> we have 2 new guys who just left university and they are shit
20:45:05  <Mazur> I could have told you that.
20:45:09  <Chris_Booth> I am not even sure if they did a degree in programming :S
20:45:18  <Mazur> But P&O still wants the papers.
20:45:31  <Chris_Booth> come to the UK
20:45:44  <Chris_Booth> we have a shortage in good programmers
20:45:50  <Stablean> <Dom> austria aswell
20:46:05  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I was looking at austria the otherday
20:46:07  <Stablean> <Anson> and germany gets indians ....
20:46:19  <Mazur> I've become too rusty by now, I'd have to start training again to reactivate my skills.
20:46:27  <Stablean> <Dom> all the germans are going to austria for jobs
20:46:29  <Mazur> I'm bloody 51.
20:46:42  <Mazur> Too old.
20:46:54  <Chris_Booth> 51 isn't old
20:47:03  <Chris_Booth> unless you can afford not to work
20:47:10  <Mazur> It is when you're applying for jobs.
20:49:00  <Mazur> And I'm broken in my head, I;ve given up, the bastards ground me down, seived me and ground me down further.
20:49:07  <Stablean> <Anson> another pax game .... in the last one, i saw that one industry could be funded :-)
20:49:33  <Stablean> <Dom> yes banks
20:49:39  <Stablean> <Dom> in this one aswell
20:49:43  <Stablean> <Anson> :)
20:49:54  <Mazur> So I've just forgotten about work, so I can sleep.
20:50:14  <Mazur> And am happily doing sod all.
20:50:18  <Stablean> <Chris Booth> that is sad to hear Mazur
20:51:07  <Mazur> It is, but it's not been my decision, it's capitalism at its best.
21:08:28  <Stablean> <Dom> cb?
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21:21:10  <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players)
21:21:12  <Stablean> <Anson> oh
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21:21:44  <Stablean> <Dom> lol xD
21:21:50  <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2
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21:22:26  <Stablean> <Anson> i just lost con, and after i had returned, i got a screenfull of messages that everybody had general timeouts
21:23:07  <Stablean> <Anson> and again ?
21:23:11  <Stablean> <Dom> nope
21:23:19  <Stablean> <Anson> akmost ... 17 seconds of nodata
21:25:10  <Stablean> <Anson> nobody returns besides us ?
21:25:17  <Stablean> <X-BT> Hi
21:25:28  <Stablean> <Anson> WB
21:25:49  <Stablean> <Anson> everybody just lost con ... will they return ?
21:33:07  <TWerkhoven[l]> if they are at their pcs, possibly
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21:33:24  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
21:33:26  <Stablean> <Dom> wb
21:33:28  <Stablean> <Anson> WB
21:35:24  <Chris_Booth> bk
21:35:31  <Stablean> <V453000> Anson spectating? :d
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21:36:02  <Stablean> <Anson> i wanted to watch how "professionals" start a pax game ...
21:36:23  <Stablean> <Dom> V are you gonna expand overseas?
21:36:23  <Stablean> <Anson> but for many years, i couldn't see anything
21:36:40  <Stablean> <V453000> no
21:36:57  <Stablean> <Dom> ok
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21:38:02  <Chris_Booth> should this server be updated to 1.2.2 rc1?
21:38:24  <V453000> yes, hopefully soon
21:38:47  <Stablean> <Anson> after this game ... next week ? :-)
21:38:53  <Stablean> <V453000> no could do now
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21:58:34  <Stablean> <Cameron> V can you explain how 80 poeple fit in a 40 person wagon?
21:58:44  <Stablean> <V453000> chop them up, done
21:58:46  <Stablean> <Cameron> :P
21:58:53  <Stablean> <Dom> xD
21:59:04  <Stablean> <V453000> idk but in the game the value works well :)
21:59:42  <Stablean> <Cameron> it says 40 cap. yet im hauling 80
21:59:56  <Stablean> <V453000> each engine changes that, obviously
22:00:02  <Stablean> <Cameron> ok
22:00:13  <Stablean> <V453000> could be written there ^^
22:01:11  <Stablean> <V453000> in fact engines have it written there
22:05:48  <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game
22:05:55  <Stablean> <nicfer> pax again?
22:06:02  <Stablean> <Dom> no
22:06:02  <Stablean> <nicfer> yay
22:06:02  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
22:07:09  <Stablean> <Anson> our city buses at home have a capacity of 100+, but on a long distance travel, people don't want to stand. thus cosy chairs cost space and only 40-50 people fit in such a bus :-)
22:07:51  <Stablean> *** nicfer has started a new company (#5)
22:10:48  <Ammler> server is compiling 1.2.2-RC1
22:11:07  <Ammler> are there any patches applied?
22:11:27  <Stablean> <Dom> not that i know
22:15:17  <Stablean> <Cameron> anything new?
22:16:39  <Stablean> *** X-BT has started a new company (#6)
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22:29:02  <Stablean> <Dom> xD pofit graph when i opened the new line :D
22:29:42  <Speedy> !players
22:29:44  <Stablean> Speedy: Client 59 (Pink) is Dom, in company 2 (Chris Booth Transport)
22:29:45  <Stablean> Speedy: Client 61 (Mauve) is X-BT, in company 6 (X-BT Transport)
22:29:45  <Stablean> Speedy: Client 65 (Blue) is V453000, in company 1 (Parninghead Cross Transport)
22:29:45  <Stablean> Speedy: Client 77 (Green) is nicfer, in company 5 (nicfer Transport)
22:29:45  <Stablean> Speedy: Client 56 (Orange) is Anson, in company 3 (Anson Transport)
22:29:46  <Stablean> Speedy: Client 71 (Red) is Cameron, in company 4 (Cameron Transport)
22:30:10  <Stablean> <V453000> distance :)
22:30:32  <Stablean> <Dom> :)
22:33:22  <Stablean> <V453000> oh holy shit 110 capacity for trains in 120?
22:33:30  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
22:33:56  <Stablean> <V453000> im surprised it is that much :>
22:34:02  <Stablean> <Dom> oh :D
22:34:13  <Stablean> <V453000> the early capacities could use some reduction in general
22:34:27  <Stablean> <Dom> why?
22:34:33  <Stablean> <V453000> early ages = small buildings
22:34:51  <Stablean> <Dom> rly?  my town is growing :D
22:34:54  <Stablean> <V453000> if a town makes 354 pax per month, 110 per wagon is just too much
22:35:22  <Stablean> <Dom> true
22:35:30  <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt horrible, but some reduction could be good
22:35:30  <Stablean> <Dom> but if it's long range than it is good
22:35:45  <Stablean> <V453000> long or short range doesnt really matter
22:36:03  <Stablean> <V453000> it still is like 1 train per a few months
22:44:16  <V453000> "An oil rig can produce 2,295,000 litres/month, and current tankers only have 1,080,000. I have to spam 25 ships to serve rigs that are +200 tiles away from the refinery." tt-forums
22:44:32  <V453000> +200 tiles by ships
22:49:39  <Stablean> <Dom> so now let's see how the new one will do :D
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23:21:09  <Stablean> <ACM> Monorail faster than maglev!?
23:21:15  <Stablean> <Dom> same
23:21:19  <Stablean> <ACM> Heresy.
23:22:34  <Stablean> <nicfer> what roads grf is this?
23:22:44  <Stablean> <ACM> Japan roads I think.
23:23:26  <Stablean> <ACM> Japancese building set.
23:23:37  <Stablean> <ACM> *Japanese builsing set
23:23:51  <Stablean> <ACM> **Japanese building set
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23:37:59  <Stablean> <V453000> HERETIC
23:38:05  <Stablean> <V453000> burn him
23:38:07  <Stablean> <V453000> <-
23:38:17  <Stablean> <Dom> ?
23:38:27  <Stablean> <Dom> who
23:38:38  <Stablean> <V453000> chat from like 15 mins ago
23:39:01  <Stablean> <Dom> :D
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