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00:00:07 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 00:20:50 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 00:21:13 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #5 00:42:43 <Stablean> <nicfer> tintborough no longer accepts <incorrect cargo> - WTF! 00:48:37 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (general timeout) 00:48:37 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 01:00:32 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum joined the game 01:03:04 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (leaving) 01:19:57 *** DiAbL0 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 01:21:40 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 01:22:11 <Stablean> <Diablo> hello 01:22:52 <Stablean> *** Diablo has started a new company (#7) 01:22:52 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 01:24:00 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 01:24:00 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 01:26:08 <Stablean> <nicfer> CTRL-clicking while dragging the destroy tool (and others) selects a diamond instead of a square 01:26:23 <Stablean> <nicfer> how long was it added? 01:29:42 <Stablean> <Diablo> brb 01:34:01 <Stablean> <Diablo> back 01:40:19 <Stablean> <nicfer> Finningwell Ridge no longer accepts <incorrect cargo> - WTF again 01:42:36 <Mazur> Oh, nice, thunderstorm and I haven't had to close my balcony door yet, it's still quite warm inside. 01:42:39 <Mazur> :-) 01:42:42 * Mazur loves it. 02:00:18 <Stablean> <Diablo> bbl 02:00:21 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 02:13:34 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 02:41:56 <Stablean> <Anson> AFAIK, it's not good enough to get the balance positive again, but it has to be positive at that next check, else you really are bancrupt 02:44:26 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 03:00:42 <Stablean> <nicfer> happened to me a few times 03:02:06 <Stablean> <nicfer> why do I keep getting messages about stations no longer acceping an "<invalid cargo>"? 03:07:28 <Stablean> <Anson> i had that problem w ahile ago, but don't remember what caused it ... maybe that we have no cargo, or some GRF that inserts some cargo like gold/valuables while there is no single town that accepts it 03:16:03 <Stablean> <nicfer> on which version was implemented the ctrl-dragging bulldozing thing? 03:16:49 <Stablean> <nicfer> also working on other functions like leveling land 03:17:45 <Stablean> <Anson> leveling land and even dragging station building are very old ... son't know about drag-delete 03:18:23 <Stablean> <nicfer> I mean you can ctrl-drag those to make diamond-shaped areas 03:18:25 <Stablean> <Anson> but when you try to raise or lower land, be careful ... i spent a lot of money until i knew what was happening :-( 03:18:41 <Stablean> <Anson> ah, diamond ... that is also very old 03:19:51 <Stablean> <Anson> when you click a dot to raise/lower it and then drag to do it on an area, it is not friendly to existing land which is already higher (when raising) or lower (while lowering) 03:20:17 <Stablean> <Anson> it behaves as if you raise/lower only that one dot where you started, and then does the same as leveling land !# 03:22:03 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 03:22:06 *** DiAbL0 has quit IRC 03:29:32 <Stablean> <nicfer> it was implemented on 1.1.0 beta 2 03:29:50 <Stablean> <nicfer> r21500 to be more precise 03:38:04 <Stablean> *** Ryton joined the game 03:38:05 <Stablean> <Ryton> hi 03:38:21 <Stablean> <Anson> V, if you are reading: why is the price of the first passenger engine 8202$, much higher than the usual 3280 of later engines ? 03:38:35 <Stablean> <Ryton> pff, pax only again? :'( 03:39:21 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, and a new NUTS set, with some modified balance for mono, maglev, etc 03:43:41 <Stablean> <Ryton> that could be interesting 03:45:01 <Stablean> <nicfer> it's not the price it's the operating cost 03:51:15 <Stablean> <nicfer> anyone uses the non-universal cargo wagons with NUTS? 03:57:07 <Stablean> *** Ryton has left the game (leaving) 04:01:09 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 04:35:31 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, pax are either children or dwarves :-) 04:36:10 <Stablean> <Anson> since 800 pax only weigh something like 50t ... 40 kg per pax :-) 04:59:11 <Stablean> <nicfer> Anson, your network is jam 04:59:17 <Stablean> <nicfer> at Rardtown 05:02:51 <Stablean> <Diablo> nicfer, if u decide to expand north, i am giving u permission to build up to harthill with stations where mine is if u want 05:16:37 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 05:18:35 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #2 05:23:03 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 05:24:08 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 06:03:48 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 06:06:45 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, i am back again, from building :-) 06:07:19 <Stablean> <nicfer> you've got a jam at Rardtown 06:07:57 <Stablean> <Anson> rardtown woods ? 06:08:13 <Stablean> <nicfer> yes 06:08:19 <Stablean> <nicfer> oh wait 06:08:25 <Stablean> <nicfer> you cleaned it 06:08:36 <Stablean> <Anson> only waiting trains for full load, when the town grows 06:09:11 <Stablean> <Anson> there were several jams while i was constructing and rardtown woods didn't accept pax yet ... 06:09:25 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf joined the game 06:10:10 <Stablean> <Anson> had built a detour around that station to rardtown, and that was a mess ... mixed station length and train lengths, several crossings, and thus also some deadlocks occasionally 06:10:46 <Stablean> <jaja2939ugmf> disaster would on for this session 06:11:08 <Stablean> <jaja2939ugmf> for fun 06:11:10 <Stablean> <Anson> that's why i wasn't reading chat and rebuilding the towns and stations ... now two towns should be done with metro (at least for some time), and the mainline also should work 06:11:24 <Stablean> <jaja2939ugmf> questions? 06:11:50 <Stablean> <Anson> but big thanks for notifying me ... better to check for an additional jam than to not see it 06:12:06 <Stablean> <jaja2939ugmf> is building bus with one way dual road 06:13:05 <Stablean> <Anson> buses try to overtake when they are faster than another, when there are no crossings or bridges, and no bus in opposite direction 06:13:27 <Stablean> <Anson> thus you can build an autobahn with two parallel oneway road tracks :-) 06:13:41 <Stablean> <Anson> but check first how many buses you can build in this game !!!! 06:14:11 <Stablean> <Anson> 5 road vehicles, 0 ships, 0 planes, 5000 trains 06:14:45 <Stablean> <Anson> i don't think you will need a full grown autobahn for those buses :-) 06:16:51 <Stablean> <Anson> jaja, are you you still there ? 06:27:38 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 06:28:14 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 06:31:12 *** Firestar has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:31:18 <Firestar> hi guys 06:31:34 <Firestar> !players 06:31:36 <Stablean> Firestar: Client 203 is jaja2939ugmf, a spectator 06:31:37 <Stablean> Firestar: Client 56 (Orange) is Anson, in company 3 (Anson Transport) 06:31:47 *** Firestar has quit IRC 06:40:18 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, fire 06:41:20 <Stablean> <Anson> does anyone know when we will get better bridges ? .... train 211 kph, and fastest bridge 112 kph 06:44:36 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf has started a new company (#8) 06:46:08 <Stablean> <Anson> jaja, did you read what i said about buses, autobahn, etc ? 07:15:52 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 07:17:53 *** DiAbL0 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:19:45 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has started a new company (#9) 07:22:15 <Stablean> <ROM5419> Cheezus, you guys act like Hitler when it comes to enforcing rail domination 07:22:49 <Stablean> <Anson> whjo is "you" ? 07:23:59 <Stablean> <Anson> i think that this map should mostly be a test for the new NUTS version ... thus only pax trains 07:24:37 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 07:28:25 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf has joined spectators 07:31:30 <Stablean> <ROM5419> screwed up... time to restart 07:32:08 <Stablean> <Anson> no ships to bancrupt your company 07:32:18 <Stablean> <ROM5419> so i use the waste money method 07:33:00 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has joined spectators 07:33:17 <Stablean> <ROM5419> now watch my assets fade away 07:34:41 <Stablean> <ROM5419> just as expected 07:34:47 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has started a new company (#9) 07:35:08 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: TF is not too costly ... only a few mil 07:35:20 <Stablean> <Anson> i mean "TF water" 07:35:30 <Stablean> <ROM5419> i TF'ed to bankrupt 07:48:01 <Stablean> <ROM5419> How come there are AV8 aircraft when all non-heavy rail forms of transport are banned? 07:58:13 <Stablean> <Anson> did you check whether you can buy those aircraft ? 07:58:25 <Stablean> <Anson> probably only a forgotten/default grf file 07:59:03 <Stablean> <ROM5419> yup... everything but heavy rail is banned 1984-style 07:59:57 <Stablean> <Anson> i need new bridges 08:00:11 <Stablean> <Anson> trains 211 kph and bridges only 112 08:00:26 <Stablean> <ROM5419> dream on, slave 08:01:04 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 08:01:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 08:07:46 <Stablean> <Anson> just see that there are cantilever, up to 241 kph ... but probably only for shrter bridges 08:16:37 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 08:16:40 *** DiAbL0 has quit IRC 08:23:57 <Stablean> <ROM5419> gtg 08:24:04 <Stablean> <jaja2939ugmf> hi 08:24:10 <Stablean> <ROM5419> dafuq? 08:24:17 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (leaving) 08:24:19 <Stablean> <jaja2939ugmf> yes 08:31:59 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf has left the game (leaving) 08:33:55 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long) 08:33:55 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 09:29:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:29:09 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 09:29:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 09:30:40 <Stablean> <V453000> LOL @ brown 09:33:59 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, V 09:35:19 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 09:35:39 <Stablean> <Anson> is "Reborn" alreasy on your todo list, or do i not see what's the matter with it ... looks ten years younger than Mind Machine, but is slower, less power, less TE and same capacity 09:37:26 <Stablean> <V453000> not same capacity 09:37:47 <Stablean> <Anson> description says 120 for both 09:38:01 <Stablean> <V453000> wagons are bigger 09:38:27 <Stablean> <Anson> ah, wagon capacity is barely 10% larger 09:38:58 <Stablean> <V453000> ah purchase info is wrong 09:39:05 <Stablean> <V453000> engine capacity is 160 not 120 09:39:27 <Stablean> <Anson> but that isn't much when used as TL2 ... total 360 instead of 240 09:39:46 <Stablean> <V453000> that is huge difference 09:39:57 <Stablean> <Anson> descriptiopn said 120 09:40:04 <Stablean> <V453000> as I said it is 160 09:40:53 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, you are right (just biought them) ... description needs an update :-) 09:40:53 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 09:40:58 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> Hello all 09:43:17 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> One more PAX game ? :) 09:43:37 <Stablean> <V453000> the trains are a lot different so people wanted one :) 09:43:56 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> I saw that, monorail are fatser than maglev now :) 09:45:38 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 8 09:45:39 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 09:45:41 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm still learning and experimenting with pax ... now i would need three pax train types : metro, local and ICE :-) 09:46:05 <Stablean> <V453000> you basically have that in fact 09:46:25 <Stablean> <V453000> amongst local trains there are faster ones and slower ones, higher or lower capacity 09:46:51 <Stablean> <Anson> which trains should i use ? ... currently, i am using ICE for the medium distance between metro collector and the ice transfer station 09:49:05 <Stablean> <V453000> the ones you see fit really :) but for that job I would probably suggest the faster class of local 09:49:23 <Stablean> <V453000> which is the Mind Machine and Abstracted 09:49:37 <Stablean> <V453000> while Reborn has more capacity for the smaller network 09:51:52 <Stablean> <V453000> ok I think I have fixed all of the puchase menus 09:51:59 <Stablean> <V453000> at least the engine capacities for sure 09:52:14 <Stablean> <Anson> mind machine is what i am using for the metro since i didn't know about the 160 09:52:54 <Stablean> <V453000> yeah but mind machine itself already has an upgrade in abstracted 09:53:07 <Stablean> <V453000> and the 160 mainly applies to short trains, so ... :) 09:54:01 <Stablean> <Anson> i am using TL2 ... difference 340 vs 400 is nice 09:54:09 <Stablean> <V453000> the capacity of ICE trains is kind of fine too when they are 2.5x longer than the local trains, but their loading time will probably make them less desirable especially later 09:54:20 <Stablean> <V453000> 340 vs 400 is really a lot 09:56:19 <Stablean> <Anson> the loading speed in the descriptions gives the number of ticks, eg 120 cap / 60 speed = 2 ticks, right ? 09:57:18 <Stablean> <V453000> more or less 09:57:20 <Stablean> <Anson> many trains of the last version had wagons with 100 capacity and 50 speed ... now many have 110 and 50 speed, that adds a tick ? or only an error in description ? 09:57:34 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 09:57:48 <Stablean> <V453000> that is exactly what I hate about these capacity and loading speed stats 09:57:56 <Stablean> <V453000> SO many places where the information is 09:58:27 <Stablean> <V453000> I think I scaled the loadings speeds too though 09:58:30 <Stablean> <V453000> not 100% sure 09:58:50 <Stablean> <V453000> but thanks that is exactly the most ass info I need fixed 09:58:57 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> V, what's the purpose of the "mentally disturbed" trains ? 09:59:17 <Stablean> <Anson> would be easier when you could set an option "verbose", and the game itself would pull the data for the description from the grf ... but probably too difficult because of the communication between game and grf ? 09:59:49 <Stablean> <V453000> that isnt possible for all cases 10:00:05 <Stablean> <V453000> in particular the purchase menu is basically impossible to do that in ... at least for me 10:00:36 <Stablean> <V453000> problem is purchase menu is unable to search through conditions, it would always show one condition 10:00:47 <Stablean> <V453000> (1st result of the condition) 10:00:54 <Stablean> <V453000> so I have to write it there manually 10:01:00 <Stablean> <Anson> but (besides the typing errors or other small omissions) i like descriptions in nuts A LOT 10:01:02 <Stablean> <V453000> I bet it would be possible to solve somehow 10:01:08 <Stablean> <V453000> :) 10:01:18 <Stablean> <V453000> it is useful for sure 10:02:50 <Stablean> <V453000> btw there is Morphogenesis now .) 10:03:00 <Stablean> <Anson> if we get another pax game, i want a new nuts with more colored trains ... (mis)using the diesel power as medium/local transport and want to match colors with the metro in each town :-) 10:03:00 <Stablean> <V453000> which is kind of the medium way of doing things 10:03:41 <Stablean> <V453000> the recolouring is extremely demanding to code 10:03:50 <Stablean> <V453000> so yes, it will come sometime, but not soon 10:04:20 <Stablean> <V453000> ok the Morphogenesis is probably better in everything atm :) 10:04:22 <Stablean> <Anson> worst part of recoloring : as far as i could see, color is lost on autoreplace 10:04:32 <Stablean> <V453000> it isnt 10:04:52 <Stablean> <V453000> it probably is if you replace to ice 10:04:54 <Stablean> <V453000> but only on engines 10:04:56 <Stablean> <V453000> stays on wagons 10:05:12 <Stablean> <Anson> stays invisibly !? 10:05:15 <Stablean> <V453000> sure 10:05:21 <Stablean> <V453000> read the capacity 10:05:33 <Stablean> <V453000> 80 pax (company colour) 10:05:50 <Stablean> <V453000> that is simply because the wagon is able to refit to that 10:06:41 <Stablean> <V453000> ohh 10:06:47 <Stablean> <V453000> there is a lot more mess than I thought 10:06:50 <Stablean> <Anson> then it probably needs only some more time to get used to it ... when and where on which engnes and wagons, it applies 10:07:08 <Stablean> <V453000> i wanted to even write it in the purchase menu which trains recolour 10:07:14 <Stablean> <V453000> but in the end all of them should be able to do that 10:07:16 <Stablean> <V453000> so ... 10:08:02 <Stablean> <Anson> we need faster bridges :-) 10:08:26 <Stablean> <Anson> 112 kph is not much when there are islands and max bridge/tunnel is 2048 10:08:49 <Stablean> <Anson> nut that is not nuts 10:09:03 <Stablean> <Anson> *but 10:09:26 <Stablean> <V453000> well you have very long bridges :) these get upgraded only with tubulars 10:09:45 <Stablean> <V453000> which is like 1995 I think 10:09:51 <Stablean> <V453000> actually a bit later 10:11:57 <Stablean> <V453000> why dont you autoreplace your trains btw 10:14:56 <Stablean> <Diablo> gtgn 10:15:00 <Stablean> <Diablo> nite 10:15:06 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined spectators 10:15:19 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 10:15:45 <Stablean> <Anson> aitireplacing now ... i checked last time when the arms race was just for special offer and i didn't get it in time 10:16:59 <Stablean> <Anson> some more trains with strange loading factors : all(?) ice with wagon 80 and speed 12 ... that would be 6.5 ticks ? 10:18:13 <Stablean> <Anson> engine is 60 and 6 ... or 30 per half-engine and 6 ... thus 5 ticks .... 10:18:53 <Stablean> <Anson> for wagonms, the speed 12 would match some old capacity of 60 for wagons ... currently, wagons are shown to have 80 10:19:03 <Stablean> *** [FR]Syl59 has left the game (leaving) 10:20:52 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, it would be a lot easier when you could specify loading speed as ticks and not as some capacity per tick 10:37:23 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, thanks again for the hint on replacing engines ... just look at my income graph for the last 2 years :-) 10:45:18 <Stablean> <V453000> 12 and 6 is indeed strange shit 10:47:26 <Stablean> <Anson> engine 60 and engine speed 6 makes sense ... and you probably changed 60 wagon cap to 80, but left wagon speed at 12 instead of updating it to 16 (at least in the description) 10:47:44 <Stablean> <V453000> all engines have 80 10:48:08 <Stablean> <Anson> 60 in some old nuts, 80 now 10:49:25 <Stablean> <V453000> ok made it 16/8 for all 10:49:40 <Stablean> <V453000> hm 10:49:46 <Stablean> <V453000> if 16 isnt too fast 10:50:11 <Stablean> <Anson> 80 / 16 = 5 ticks ... same as the old 60 / 12 10:50:11 <Stablean> <V453000> 10 is fine 10:51:32 <Stablean> <Anson> you mean speed 10 --> 80 / 10 = 8 ticks ? 10:52:24 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 10:53:56 <Stablean> <Anson> for an engine with 60 capacity (30 per half engine), that would require at least 8 speed ... 60 / 8 ticks = 7.5 speed, rounded 8 (instead of the currently shown 6) 10:54:01 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 joined the game 10:54:06 <Stablean> <Dixon296> \o 10:54:13 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 10:54:39 <Stablean> <Anson> or engine capacity 64, to make it integer :-) .... 64/8=8 :-) 10:56:49 <Stablean> <V453000> want to join me Dixon? I wont do too much 10:57:24 <Stablean> <Dixon296> just looking for now :) 10:57:51 <Stablean> <Dixon296> kk ty 11:01:28 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 11:02:19 <Stablean> <V453000> czech news: Dairy didnt profit, so they turn it into brewery. 11:02:21 <Stablean> <V453000> Wise people 11:02:35 <Stablean> <Dixon296> very wise indeed 11:07:29 <Stablean> <Anson> did they only exchange machinery in the factory, or also the cows ? ... where can i get such a brewery cow, to get my daily drink ? 11:08:52 <Stablean> <V453000> XD brewery cow 11:08:56 <Stablean> <V453000> idk what they did really 11:09:06 <Stablean> <V453000> would be top popular animal on earth 11:27:59 <Stablean> <Anson> when do we get monorail ? 11:28:29 <Stablean> <Anson> i already got the rails, but no engines yet .... 11:30:13 <Stablean> <Anson> in one year from now :-) 11:33:44 <Stablean> <V453000> lol my food is going to have more cheese in it than 6pool 11:34:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> lol 11:37:31 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, did you know that the pax we are transporting are either children or dwarves ? 11:37:59 <Stablean> <Anson> only 50t for 800 pax .... that is 40 kg each 11:38:21 <Stablean> <V453000> lol 11:38:27 <Stablean> <V453000> pedotransport tycoon 11:38:37 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hehe 11:38:53 <Stablean> <Dixon296> brb need food 11:38:56 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined spectators 11:42:29 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has left the game (general timeout) 11:42:29 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has left the game (connection lost) 12:11:51 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 joined the game 12:15:36 <Ammler> oh, I forgot to install the rc1, is it ok now? 12:16:23 <Ammler> !restart 12:16:24 <Stablean> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 12:17:02 <Stablean> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 12:17:02 <Stablean> Thank you for playing 1.2.1. 12:17:09 <Stablean> Server has exited 12:17:09 *** Stablean has quit IRC 12:17:55 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:17:55 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 12:17:55 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 12:17:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 12:17:55 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop Welcome to OpenTTD Server | 1.2.2-RC1 | Admin channel (ask for op) | IF you prepare map, read http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Map_Preparation | run !setdef after loading a new game" 12:18:06 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:18:51 <Stablean> V450000000000, now you can execute !-commands ;-) 12:18:53 <Anson> server crash? or reset for new version? 12:20:04 <Ammler> !revsion 12:20:11 <Ammler> !revision 12:20:11 <Stablean> Ammler: Game version is 1.2.2-RC1 12:22:00 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 joined the game 12:22:11 <Stablean> *** Dixon296 has joined company #1 12:22:11 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:34:54 <V453000> !dl win64 12:34:54 <Stablean> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.2.2-RC1/openttd-1.2.2-RC1-windows-win64.zip 12:35:06 <V453000> Thanks Ammler :) 12:38:23 <Ammler> I did it yesterday night but somehow forgot to install/restart 12:38:31 <Ammler> (as you asked) 12:38:56 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:38:58 *** Webster sets mode: +o LoPo 12:44:42 <V453000> sure :) its fine even later this time :> 12:45:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 12:45:41 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 12:46:30 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 12:49:06 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo 12:49:16 <Stablean> <V453000> hai 12:49:20 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hey 12:50:03 <Stablean> <Anson> i just replaced trains to the timewave ... the values in that description are a bit off too ... 12:50:36 <Stablean> <V453000> yes, very off .) it is fixed already 12:50:38 <Stablean> <Anson> wagon capacity 130 and speed 70 is ok, could probably be even a bit lower at 65 :-) 12:50:48 <Stablean> <V453000> yes that too 12:50:59 <Stablean> <V453000> I went through all of that today morning 12:51:02 <Stablean> <Anson> but engine is 160 and engine speed 50 12:51:25 <Stablean> <Anson> ah, ok ... then ignoring such errors until next nuts version ? 12:53:35 <Stablean> <Anson> quite some decision ... timewave against paradise ... double speed, but half capacity 12:57:54 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, would that be possible ? a train with refittable gear, so that we only have one engine but can refit it in the whole range from strong to fast ? 13:00:37 <Stablean> <V453000> no that is stupid 13:00:51 <Stablean> <V453000> it of course is possible though 13:00:56 <Stablean> <V453000> but autoreplace = not working then 13:02:15 <Stablean> <V453000> that is what NARS does 13:02:21 <Stablean> <V453000> the regearing 13:02:48 <Stablean> <V453000> it is cute that you can select how the engine exactly does, but in the end it makes only one part of it usable - the one which is autoreplace do 13:02:54 <Stablean> <V453000> autoreplaced to 13:03:10 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:03:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 13:03:21 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hia 13:03:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> another pax game? 13:03:28 <Stablean> <Anson> last year, i played a game where "load full" didn't work since engines had a gear in their cargo :-) 13:03:38 <Stablean> <Anson> but don't remember any details about it 13:03:54 <Stablean> <Dixon296> yep pax again 13:04:00 <Stablean> <Dixon296> :( 13:04:11 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> @Anson, yeah, gear is also a "cargo" 13:04:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so it never loads to 100% 13:04:31 <Stablean> <Anson> you powered the server down, and then started again with an autosave ? 13:04:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what you could do then, is to set laod to a minimum of 90% 13:05:13 <Stablean> <V453000> these % dont work with fullload orders 13:05:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, you should do it instead of full load 13:05:30 <Stablean> <V453000> you cant 13:05:40 <Stablean> <V453000> it applies after the train leaves the station, not in it 13:05:40 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #2 13:05:53 <Stablean> <Anson> there is no order "load 90%" ... although such an order would be nice :-) 13:06:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, sorry 13:06:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> full load any cargo 13:07:04 <Stablean> <V453000> that yes :) 13:07:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not full load all cargo 13:07:08 <Stablean> <Anson> i used timetables only very rarely, for delivering supplies once per month, and for a reset switch on some logic gate ... 13:07:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thank you V :) 13:07:28 <Stablean> <V453000> for wat? :d 13:07:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> making me see my mistake ;) 13:07:40 <Stablean> <V453000> lolz 13:07:50 <Stablean> <Anson> is this correct : when you "load any" with a timetable wait time of 5 days, it first loads and then waits even if new cargo arrives ? 13:08:01 <Stablean> <V453000> you can flame on the newest nuts changes in return ^^ 13:08:03 <Stablean> <Anson> or does it load for 5 days ? 13:08:18 <Stablean> <V453000> stay in station for 5 days no matter what I think 13:08:26 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined spectators 13:08:30 <Stablean> <V453000> though if there is cargo coming, it might stay longer 13:08:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> try it... 13:08:32 <Stablean> <V453000> I think 13:08:47 <Stablean> <Anson> yes, stay for 5 days, but load before staying, or after waiting, or while waiting ? 13:17:57 <Stablean> *** {[FR]Syl59} joined the game 13:18:09 <Stablean> <[FR]Syl59> hello 13:18:31 <Stablean> <Dixon296> hi 13:18:39 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, funny numbers when watching the timewave ... loading 49%, 98%, 100% :-) .... 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17:30:07 <Stablean> <Phillip> a really long tmewave zero... 17:31:17 <Stablean> *** masterscorp has joined spectators 17:31:41 <Stablean> <Anson> i had them before ... seems to be the best solution, even with relatively low speed 17:31:51 <Stablean> *** masterscorp has left the game (leaving) 17:31:59 <Stablean> <Phillip> Just ship them off to a distant town. 17:32:59 <Stablean> <Anson> as long as my income is positive, distance is not important :-) 17:33:29 <Stablean> <Anson> I'm rather trying to build some metros ... it's only my second pax game ever 17:33:43 <Stablean> <Phillip> me too 17:35:45 <Stablean> <Anson> look at rardtown ... there i already was using the timewave with TL4 17:36:43 <Stablean> <Anson> for the metro, the REBORN is a nice train ... the capacity in the description is too low 17:39:54 <Stablean> <Anson> you aren't using the timewave yourself, but morphogenesis ... try the reborn, if you don't want timewave 17:41:37 <Stablean> <Phillip> I'm still thinking about monorail though because of all these LOCAL trains taking long distances... 17:43:13 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: why don't you use the metro in Deningwell to feed the main station ? 18:11:12 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 18:44:13 <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game 18:44:16 <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #5 18:53:02 <Stablean> *** masterscorp has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:53:02 <Stablean> *** masterscorp has left the game (connection lost) 18:54:23 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 18:56:37 <Stablean> <nicfer> there's no maglev local? 18:56:51 <Stablean> <Phillip> so? 18:57:15 <Stablean> <nicfer> maglev local trains 18:57:33 <Stablean> <Phillip> there is no maglev local 18:59:23 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 18:59:25 <Stablean> <Phillip> hi 18:59:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 19:00:17 <Stablean> <nicfer> hi 19:02:07 <Stablean> <nicfer> did local maglev still not arrive? 19:02:27 <Stablean> <Phillip> yes 19:07:49 <Stablean> <V453000> hi .. there is no local maglev as you were told :d 19:08:19 <Stablean> <nicfer> oops I didn't saw that message 19:09:05 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined company #1 19:14:50 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 19:17:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:33:53 <Stablean> <nicfer> what vehicles can I use for my network? intercity monos seems to bottleneck at stations due to low loading speed 19:41:48 <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (leaving) 19:48:03 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG joined the game 19:48:11 <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hihi 19:53:18 <Stablean> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 19:56:52 *** DomDom has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:57:31 <DomDom> !download 19:57:31 <Stablean> DomDom: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 19:57:47 <DomDom> !download win64 19:57:47 <Stablean> DomDom: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/1.2.2-RC1/openttd-trunk-1.2.2-RC1-windows-win64.zip 19:58:38 <Stablean> <Anson> for my big station, i tried several trains, but the best i fund is the timewave ... a bit slow, but i just need the capacity 19:58:49 <DomDom> hello folks :D 19:58:59 <Stablean> <Anson> almost 2000 pax per train :-) 19:59:19 <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Dom. 19:59:26 <DomDom> Hi Phil :) 19:59:47 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 19:59:49 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 19:59:54 <DomDom> what's up with the new version? 19:59:57 <Stablean> <Phillip> Rardtown Woods, nothing waiting! 20:00:03 <Stablean> <Phillip> beta for 1.2.2 20:00:06 <Stablean> <Phillip> Hi Dom. 20:00:21 <Stablean> <Dom> Hi Phillip :D 20:00:37 <Stablean> <Phillip> And new NUTS. 20:00:48 <Stablean> <Dom> yeah saw that yesterday :D 20:00:58 <Stablean> <Phillip> OpenTTD 1.2.2-RC1 and NUTS 0.2.4 20:01:42 <Stablean> <Phillip> Lol bridges. 20:02:59 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 20:04:03 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 20:08:25 <Stablean> <Anson> do you want to see how fast rar wood will fill up when i stop a train ? 20:10:52 <Stablean> <Anson> quite fast .... 20:12:18 <Stablean> <Phillip> Another skyscraper is being build there. 20:17:13 <Stablean> <Phillip> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 20:17:25 <Stablean> <Phillip> Too amazed by it! 20:18:15 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 20:22:08 <Stablean> <Anson> and now imagine that train filled with pax ... even heavier, even not as much as cargo 20:35:44 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 20:54:17 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 20:57:02 <Stablean> <Cameron> first transcontininal railroad? :D 20:57:50 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, are these values correct ? ... three trains (one directly behind the other) are longer than the bridge, thus max 3 should be needed ? 20:58:29 <Stablean> <Cameron> idk 21:20:23 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw joined the game 21:20:35 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw has left the game (leaving) 21:21:01 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw joined the game 21:23:29 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw has left the game (leaving) 21:23:29 <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (leaving) 21:23:40 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 21:23:40 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 21:23:40 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (general timeout) 21:23:40 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 21:23:40 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:23:41 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:23:42 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 21:49:56 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 21:54:21 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i am loading a Timewave train now ... it takes almiost exactly ONE YEAR because of loading times 21:55:39 <Stablean> <Anson> first 49% in 4 months, up to 99% in another 4 months, and then yet another 4 months for the last 20 (of 16600) passengers 21:56:06 <V453000> lol 21:56:09 <Stablean> <Anson> who wants to watch its start : begin of July, it should start, next to sign MAXIMUS 21:56:23 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 21:56:32 <Stablean> <V453000> o_O 21:57:14 <Stablean> <V453000> why did you tf that? :/ 21:57:25 <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, V, please adjust the loading time (capacity 110, speed 50) ... the consequences can be very hard 21:57:52 <Stablean> <Anson> START 21:57:55 <Stablean> <V453000> it is fixed already 21:59:11 <Stablean> <Anson> train 88 just started its journey ... cargo: 16600 passengers, weighing only a little more than 1000t (total weight empty 2560t, full 3580t) 21:59:49 <Stablean> <V453000> 40 kmh 21:59:51 <Stablean> <V453000> that makes money? 22:00:22 <Stablean> <Anson> no idea ... the distance and number of pax are big .... it is the first trip 22:01:40 <Stablean> <Anson> does anyone know the formula to calculate speed and time for xx tiles ? 22:02:20 <Stablean> <Anson> speed was almost 40 kph right from the start, in a tunnel now only 38 22:02:55 <Stablean> <Anson> out of tunnel again 40 22:06:02 <Stablean> <Anson> traveling for 7 months now and almost at the 1/3 mark ... 300 of 900 tiles done 22:07:25 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:09:51 <Stablean> <Cameron> better fix the end 22:10:09 <Stablean> <Cameron> @ !here 22:10:27 <Stablean> <Anson> what is wrong ? 22:10:36 <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game 22:10:41 <Stablean> <Cameron> nvm :) 22:10:55 <Stablean> <Mazur> I won't, then. 22:37:14 <Stablean> <Anson> the train has finished unloading :-) .... time 1 year each for loading and unloading, and 9 months for traveling 900 tiles with 40 kph .... income : 950 k$ 22:39:24 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:40:04 <Stablean> <Anson> another train will start "soon" (during next two months), which has 6 wagons replaced by 3 holographic universes ... should be faster now :-) 22:40:33 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw joined the game 22:41:19 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 22:41:47 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: the empty train on its tour back does 50 kph now (49 in tunnel) 22:41:55 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw has left the game (leaving) 22:42:47 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 22:43:29 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw joined the game 22:43:53 <Stablean> <Anson> the train with three universes does 61 kph ... started end of october 2039 22:46:49 <Stablean> <Anson> after a month, it is out of the depot and goes full speed at 120 kph 22:48:15 <Stablean> *** Simba McMieuw has left the game (leaving) 22:48:31 <Stablean> *** X-BT joined the game 22:50:42 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:04:16 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 23:04:45 <Stablean> <Dom> anson wtf?! 23:05:44 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 23:06:26 *** LoPo has quit IRC 23:16:26 <Stablean> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 23:26:36 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 23:27:12 <Stablean> *** Anson has left the game (leaving) 23:38:56 <Stablean> <X-BT> Grenhill woods no longer accept <invalid cargo>? 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