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00:04:43 <Stablean> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 00:04:43 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:17:40 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 00:18:08 <Stablean> <Diablo> hi 00:19:35 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 00:20:29 <Stablean> <Diablo> can u do me a favour plz 00:21:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 00:21:38 <Stablean> <Diablo> can u plz change all semaphores to signals 00:22:08 <Stablean> <Diablo> i hav a suspicion of who did them 00:22:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 00:22:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i dont no 00:22:34 <Stablean> <Diablo> do u hav my pw? 00:22:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> no 00:23:03 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 00:23:03 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 00:23:23 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (general timeout) 00:23:23 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 00:23:50 <DiAbL0> thx happy :) 00:23:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np 00:25:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok so u whot me to chanch the signal 00:26:46 <DiAbL0> convert ALL semaphore to the signal equivelant 00:34:57 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 00:35:34 <Stablean> <Phillip> rehi 00:35:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 00:35:47 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #1 00:37:56 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 00:38:08 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice 00:41:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i am of to bed now good night have fun be backe to mor 00:47:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> gn 00:49:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 00:49:24 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 00:49:28 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 00:54:36 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 00:54:44 <Stablean> <Diablo> hi 01:03:54 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #1 01:03:54 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 01:04:13 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (general timeout) 01:04:13 <Stablean> *** 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<Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:34:24 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali joined the game 10:35:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:35:39 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 10:35:43 <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi 10:36:23 <Stablean> *** Dnz-Ali has left the game (leaving) 10:36:23 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:36:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 10:39:54 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:41:09 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:41:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 10:41:19 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 10:42:21 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> can wehave a new mape but in 2 hours 10:42:52 <Stablean> <V453000> I will probably do some other useful things instead 10:43:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 10:43:25 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> whot grf ar we haveing 10:43:39 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 12:09:14 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 12:53:23 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 12:53:43 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has joined company #3 12:53:43 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:33:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 13:33:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 13:33:39 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 13:39:08 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 13:39:11 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi dom 13:39:14 <Stablean> <Dom> hi happy 13:39:16 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 13:39:22 <Stablean> <Dom> hi luik 13:39:32 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 13:39:40 <Stablean> <Dom> *liuk :) 13:46:29 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher joined the game 13:46:49 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (leaving) 13:47:18 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi all 13:47:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 13:47:25 <Stablean> <Dom> hi Woodbutcher 13:48:23 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #7 14:05:00 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> light green sure builds differently 14:05:10 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 14:07:24 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> blue trains aren't reaching gonningville mines is that on purpose? 14:08:08 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> no i will fixs it 14:08:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 14:12:40 <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cyas 14:12:50 <Stablean> *** Woodbutcher has left the game (leaving) 14:12:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 14:14:15 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #7 14:14:36 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 14:14:45 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 14:14:50 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 14:14:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 14:15:06 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #7 14:50:53 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:08:55 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:12:59 <Stablean> <Dom> im afk 15:13:03 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 15:13:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 15:14:38 <Stablean> *** Andy G joined the game 15:15:03 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi andy g 15:15:09 <Stablean> <Andy G> hi 15:15:19 <Stablean> <Andy G> has this server moved? 15:15:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> notshor y 15:16:08 <Stablean> <Andy G> it seemed to have crashed at the weekend, and this is a different ip address 15:16:14 <planetmaker> it has moved 15:16:24 <Stablean> <Andy G> ok, thanks, 15:16:32 <Stablean> <Andy G> glad i found it again 15:16:36 <planetmaker> and you should identify servers by their name / DNS. Not by IP 15:16:47 <planetmaker> stable.openttdcoop.org always work(s/ed) 15:17:47 <Stablean> <Andy G> yes, but it's the only one i go on 15:17:51 <planetmaker> (that's why we have a DNS - to abstract away from the physical machine) 15:17:53 <Stablean> <Andy G> and i couldn't remember the name 15:18:31 <planetmaker> We don't guarantee you an IP. We only guarantee you the that the DNS of stable.openttdcoop.org will resolve to an IP which hosts this server 15:18:45 <planetmaker> so... search for stable.openttdcoop.org 15:18:54 <planetmaker> remember that. Forget the IP 15:19:01 <Stablean> <Andy G> ok, i'll stick it on a post it note 15:19:13 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:20:19 <planetmaker> Or do you also go to http://74.125.224.72/ for a websearch? 15:20:21 <Webster> Title: Google (at 74.125.224.72) 15:21:04 <Stablean> <Andy G> thanks 15:21:06 <Stablean> <Andy G> all noted 15:21:25 <Stablean> *** Pepe15th has started a new company (#10) 15:21:28 <Stablean> *** Pepe15th joined the game 15:21:29 <Stablean> *** Andy G has started a new company (#11) 15:23:30 <Stablean> *** Pepe15th has left the game (leaving) 15:24:02 <V453000> hm didnt think of it that way :) 15:24:34 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:25:15 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:27:39 <Stablean> <Andy G> is there a limit on road vehicles again? 15:31:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem dame i am stuk 15:38:04 <Stablean> <Dom> happy the station still won't work! take a look at the other stations and fix it please 15:38:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 15:38:27 <Stablean> <Dom> ty 15:42:36 <Stablean> *** llkjl joined the game 15:42:49 <Stablean> *** llkjl has left the game (processing map took too long) 15:42:49 <Stablean> *** llkjl has left the game (connection lost) 15:42:54 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:42:56 *** Webster sets mode: +o LoPo 15:43:23 <LoPo> hi 15:43:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 15:43:51 <LoPo> ey :) have you seen Ryton? 15:46:30 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 15:46:37 <Stablean> <Mark> hai 15:46:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi mark 15:50:02 <Stablean> <Mark> omg 15:50:22 <Stablean> <Dom> haha mark saw the green network xDD 15:50:38 <Stablean> <Mark> i thought that building style died 10 years ago 15:50:53 <Stablean> <Dom> i never knew it existed xDD 15:51:24 <Stablean> <Mark> lol its jammed completely 15:52:26 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 15:52:26 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 15:52:59 <Stablean> *** HR joined the game 15:55:27 <Stablean> *** HR has left the game (leaving) 15:55:41 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 15:57:28 <LoPo> green network? 15:57:34 <Stablean> *** HR joined the game 15:57:42 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 15:57:54 <Stablean> *** HR has left the game (leaving) 15:58:29 <LoPo> what about it? 15:58:34 <LoPo> or do i need to see it :P 15:58:38 <Stablean> <Dom> look at it xD 15:59:20 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:59:31 <Stablean> *** LoPo joined the game 16:00:31 <Stablean> <LoPo> hmmm 16:00:33 <Stablean> <LoPo> kay 16:00:53 <Stablean> <Dom> you like it? 16:01:03 <Stablean> <LoPo> i dont gte it:P 16:01:10 <Stablean> *** TransPennine has left the game (downloading map took too long) 16:01:10 <Stablean> *** TransPennine has left the game (connection lost) 16:01:24 <Stablean> <Dom> not much to get there xD all way pbs with cl1 16:01:42 <Stablean> <LoPo> lol 16:01:44 <Stablean> *** TransPennine joined the game 16:01:46 <Stablean> <LoPo> that hub in the east :P 16:02:08 <Stablean> <Dom> it works though :) 16:02:10 <Stablean> *** TransPennine has joined company #9 16:02:18 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 16:02:36 <Stablean> <LoPo> :)\ 16:02:52 <Stablean> <LoPo> so did the public server died? 16:03:06 <Stablean> <Dom> everyone is waiting for a new game 16:03:24 <Stablean> <LoPo> start one? :P 16:03:52 <Stablean> <Dom> sure but i'll join tomorrow have to study today -.-" 16:05:54 <Stablean> <LoPo> team purple also jams 16:06:00 <Stablean> <LoPo> there are lost trains 16:07:03 <Stablean> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 16:07:59 <Stablean> <Dom> i know rebuilding 16:08:37 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 16:32:36 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:35:41 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 16:36:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #7 16:36:57 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 16:37:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 16:39:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 16:44:11 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 16:45:16 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 16:45:45 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:45:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 16:46:48 *** LoPo has quit IRC 16:49:02 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 16:49:55 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:49:56 *** Webster sets mode: +o LoPo 16:50:03 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #7 16:50:14 *** LoPo has quit IRC 16:50:20 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:50:21 *** Webster sets mode: +o LoPo 16:50:25 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 17:19:25 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 17:19:35 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 17:19:39 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:19:39 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 17:19:45 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 17:19:59 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 17:21:12 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 17:22:50 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 17:23:04 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:23:04 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 17:23:28 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 17:23:42 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (processing map took too long) 17:23:42 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 17:30:51 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:30:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 17:31:43 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 17:32:10 <Stablean> <Jam35> yay finally got in 17:32:16 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi btw... 17:34:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi jam35 17:34:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi happy :) 17:35:59 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 17:36:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi troy 17:36:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi happy 17:36:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things troy 17:36:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi TMC 17:36:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> quite good, I think 17:37:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this game may end soon, imo 17:37:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 17:38:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i have try to arsk for a mape but no won did it 17:38:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I don't know how to make them either 17:38:36 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it shouldnt be difficult, but I can't be bothered 17:39:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> Player, please change your name 17:41:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:42:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> way too much stuff to transport and no enthusiasm for massive expansion 17:43:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you could optimize the network you have first 17:43:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> ha 17:44:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> most stations aren't maxed, for example 17:44:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> max them, solve the problems that arise from it 17:44:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and so-on 17:44:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you need enthousiasm to do that too, though 17:44:59 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) fair comments 17:46:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> for example, I would make your coal drop at least 1 full line (8 platforms) 17:46:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you could make it even bigger 17:48:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> why called 'one full line' ? 17:48:31 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> erm, thought you were familiar with that 17:48:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> imagine a full line of trains 17:49:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> when it's flowing, there's no difference, but when they slow down, you need "more rails" next to eachother 17:49:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can see it in cars to, in real life 17:49:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you know like toll ways or custom gates? 17:49:48 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> they spread out there too to several "lanes" 17:49:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> with you so far :) 17:50:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in the end you want the amount ofexiting trains to be as high as the entering trains 17:50:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> which means your station needs to have enough platform capacity to handle a full line 17:50:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hence: afull line station 17:51:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> creating even more capacity at a station is useless: theoretically, you don't need it 17:51:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and if you do see trains waiting there, there is another problem down the line that prevents trains from exiting properly 17:51:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that's about it... 17:52:06 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:52:22 <Dom_> !players 17:52:24 <Stablean> Dom_: Client 861 (Green) is Andy G, in company 11 (Andy G Transport) 17:52:24 <Stablean> Dom_: Client 882 is happy tran sport, a spectator 17:52:24 <Stablean> Dom_: Client 892 is Jam35, a spectator 17:52:24 <Stablean> Dom_: Client 894 (Yellow) is Troy McClure, in company 8 (MrD2DG Transport) 17:52:24 <Stablean> Dom_: Client 879 (Dark Green) is TransPennine, in company 9 (Network Northern Rail) 17:52:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> too little trains and the station is a bottleneck and trains will be queueing up before it, of course 17:52:40 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> questions? 17:53:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> 8 platforms was a guess right? the size would depend on loading speed etc 17:54:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it depends on just a few things 17:54:30 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> loading speed, acceleration characteristics 17:54:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but, I don't think: speed, length (per se, only in relationship to acceleration characteristics) 17:55:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> my rule of thumb is: number of loading turns+1 17:55:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so a train that goes 33/66/100 will need 4 platforms on a station 17:55:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> however, that only works in general 17:55:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> understood :) 17:55:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> that's quite neat 17:56:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> not with heavy trains and really long loading times 17:56:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can see a difference between my easthill north (unloading) 17:56:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and PWF paper mill pickup 17:57:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> unloading is 3 platforms (according to my rule, you'd only need 2) 17:57:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and loading is 4, which should, again, be 2 17:57:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so it doesn't work on the edges of loading speeds, usually between 3 and 8 17:57:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I need at least 3 17:58:07 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but since the trains are relatively heavy and accelerate slow, I need 4 at the pickup 17:58:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> at the drop, they're empty, so much faster in acceleration 18:00:00 <Stablean> *** humbro has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:00:00 <Stablean> *** humbro has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:27 <Stablean> *** humbro has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:00:27 <Stablean> *** humbro has left the game (connection lost) 18:00:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> thanks for that. Just noticed the one stage loading with container car 18:00:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> most of ottdcoop building style is maximizing network effeciency, which often means maximizing overall flow. So eliminate slowdowns in the form of too short CL curves, debottlenecking etc. 18:01:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> personally, I prefer some shorter loading times over greater cargo capacity 18:01:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> keeps things moving... 18:01:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even though you should actually weigh them out in terms of what difference it makes on the total travel time 18:02:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and what stress it poses on the network 18:02:27 <Stablean> <Jam35> makes sense 18:02:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it's hard for me to actually do that, since I don't really have reliable data to work with 18:02:45 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> nor the instruments 18:03:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 18:03:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> So I'll have to do -mostly- with qualitive aspects only 18:06:40 <Stablean> <Jam35> still cbb :D ...gonna wait for a new map 18:10:45 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 18:10:48 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 18:10:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 18:11:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi dom 18:11:32 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 18:11:36 <Stablean> <Dom> hi happy 18:12:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you want to join, happy? 18:13:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep i will john in 10 mints 18:13:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I think you know the pw 18:14:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cause I'll probably be off in that time 18:17:58 <Stablean> *** TransPennine has left the game (leaving) 18:21:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be backe in 10 mints got to wosh up 18:22:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> Loading speed is not shown that often on wagons that i've noticed 18:22:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> Only one I remember is NUTS 18:23:03 <Stablean> <Jam35> That I've used (not many) 18:23:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> So quite often you have no idea without trying 18:24:21 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 18:25:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> These gondolas are quite slow 18:25:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> it seems... 18:26:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> whereas the containers are instant... maybe a bit unbalanced? 18:28:15 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 18:30:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you need to figure it out yourselves mostly 18:30:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so when I switch wagons, I usually test out like 3 to 6 options 18:31:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> usually, there's a pay-off: 18:31:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> that seems like it would be time consuming 18:31:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> high cargo capacity: long loading time/heavy wagons themselves 18:32:02 <Stablean> <Jam35> unless at the start of the game but not all are available 18:32:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> the testing? 18:32:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, you usually keep it the same 18:32:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so I test about 2 times a game, maybe 3 18:32:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and the testing takes up some time, but not much 18:33:00 <Stablean> <Jam35> k 18:33:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> I'll have a train at an empty platform on a station with lots of cargo 18:33:17 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> have it load/unload orders, to see what it does 18:33:43 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> then back to depot (rright behind platform) and test something else 18:33:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> sure 18:33:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but as I said: payoff 18:34:03 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> in acceleration of a train, the total weight plays a role 18:34:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so empty and full weight 18:34:18 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 18:34:23 <Stablean> <Mark> yo 18:34:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 18:34:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> usually: high cargo capacity have high loading times, and heavy car weight 18:34:39 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 18:34:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 18:35:16 <Stablean> <Jam35> gotcha :) 18:35:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and if you have a wagon that has and high capacity AND high loading times, it is usually very heavy as a loaded trains 18:35:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> llike these container cars 18:36:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> my good/paper trains: empty: 204 tonnes, loaded: 504 18:36:12 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> big difference 18:36:40 *** BiG_MeEcHy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:36:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wood trains: empty: 252, loaded 414 18:36:47 <BiG_MeEcHy> hi 18:36:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> smaller difference there 18:36:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi Meech 18:37:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> this discrepancy affects your overall network 18:37:27 <BiG_MeEcHy> I'll try and join 18:37:34 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> since you want generally the same acceleration characteristics 18:37:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:37:34 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 18:37:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> goods 204-354 same length and engines 18:37:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so heavy weight difference has a great difference 18:37:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (processing map took too long) 18:37:58 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 18:38:02 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> other wagons? 18:38:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> it helps that our network is basically 2x one way 18:39:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> otherwise the difference between one joining train and the other might be 300 tonnes 18:39:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> even though it is still 212 now 18:41:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> brb 18:50:57 <BiG_MeEcHy> hi Troy 18:56:22 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 19:07:26 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 19:20:17 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 19:20:17 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 19:27:43 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:30:04 *** [1]Mark has quit IRC 19:30:46 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 19:31:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #8 19:31:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> backe 19:32:40 *** Mark has quit IRC 19:32:40 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 19:35:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> Dom ,train stuck in the reverser: Wonthill Heights 19:36:09 <Stablean> <Dom> thx 19:36:19 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 19:37:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> And a jam 19:37:59 <Stablean> <Dom> yep 19:38:21 <Stablean> <Jam35> you're there ok :) 19:42:43 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (leaving) 19:43:43 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 19:45:44 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #6 19:45:56 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 19:53:33 *** Mark has quit IRC 19:56:12 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 19:56:44 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #4 19:57:55 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 19:58:10 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 19:58:10 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 20:01:54 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 20:02:54 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #5 20:21:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> happy birthday 20:24:59 <Stablean> <Jam35> Andy G you 'could' repay your loan now 20:25:05 <Stablean> <Jam35> only if you want to 20:26:39 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 20:27:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> gtg bye 20:27:50 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:27:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 20:32:06 <BiG_MeEcHy> hi 20:32:16 <BiG_MeEcHy> hello Happy 20:32:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi big meech 20:32:47 <BiG_MeEcHy> !players 20:32:50 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcHy: Client 861 (Green) is Andy G, in company 11 (Andy G Transport) 20:32:50 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcHy: Client 882 is happy tran sport, a spectator 20:32:50 <Stablean> BiG_MeEcHy: Client 902 is Dom, a spectator 20:33:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things big meech 20:33:44 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 20:33:48 <Stablean> <Dom> hi 20:33:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 20:33:57 <BiG_MeEcHy> Things are good, thanks! You? 20:35:29 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:41:31 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 21:23:10 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined company #7 21:36:22 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (general timeout) 21:36:22 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (connection lost) 21:40:16 <Stablean> *** Dom joined the game 21:44:05 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 21:44:45 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 21:49:23 <BiG_MeEcHy> hi 21:49:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb 21:49:48 <BiG_MeEcHy> how are you Happy Tran Sport? 21:49:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good thanks 21:50:10 <BiG_MeEcHy> =D 21:51:57 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 21:52:13 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 21:52:13 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 21:53:11 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 21:53:11 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 21:53:39 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 21:53:39 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 21:54:25 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (processing map took too long) 21:54:25 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 21:59:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #7 22:10:10 <Stablean> <Dom> lol 22:10:12 <Stablean> <Dom> xDD 22:13:21 <BiG_MeEcHy> ? 22:13:25 <BiG_MeEcHy> I always miss the good stuff xD 22:13:28 <Stablean> <Dom> crashing some trains 22:13:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice 22:13:47 <BiG_MeEcHy> wtg 22:14:12 <BiG_MeEcHy> im sure they liked it 22:14:12 <BiG_MeEcHy> until they burned alive 22:14:21 <Stablean> <Dom> :D crago trains 22:14:27 <Stablean> <Dom> not many dead 22:14:56 <BiG_MeEcHy> just 2, but think of all the lovely cargo that went on fire? 22:15:16 <Stablean> <Dom> empty trains :) 22:15:31 <BiG_MeEcHy> but think of all the lovely rail cars that went on fire? 22:15:49 <Stablean> <Dom> the chinese will build new ones 22:15:56 <BiG_MeEcHy> neat! 22:15:59 <Stablean> <Dom> :D 22:16:21 <Stablean> <Dom> anyway im afk 22:16:27 <BiG_MeEcHy> neat! 22:16:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 22:17:32 <Stablean> *** Dom has joined spectators 22:30:01 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 22:30:26 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 22:30:30 <Stablean> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 22:31:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #8 22:32:26 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 22:33:08 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 22:34:56 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 22:35:08 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #1 22:36:45 *** BiG_MeEcHy has quit IRC 22:37:21 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 23:02:07 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> good night have fun 23:02:29 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 23:26:22 *** LoPo has quit IRC